Sonic The Hedgehog (Sega Genesis) - Negatives - Rerez

[@AgentDRJ]

I am not sure that many people watching this video understand that the point of this video was to find negatives in an acclaimed game. And have those negatives be as reasonable as he could make them. It isn't to bash the Sonic franchise, or Sega, but to try to have a different perspective. At least that's what I think the negatives series is about.

[@rerez]

+AgentDRJ That's exactly what it's about. :)

[@CWG500SUBSWBC]

+Rerez on april fools can you make a negative for a bad game or a postive for a good game

[@0rderSol]

+Russell 5:28

[@Blueflag04]

people take things too seriously

[@KeithAndrewPGbiz]

Rerez I think the reason people are annoyed, my friend, is because typically you struggle to find four things wrong with the game and you end up picking four fairly minor things. You then tend to sum up with an overtly positive statement reminding people it is actually a good game. You don’t do that here. You take the very core components people loved about Sonic the Hedgehog and you describe them as bland. You throw them in the toilet, before ending with a description where you pitch Sonic the Hedgehog as a slightly faster Super Mario Bros. that doesn’t really work. This isn’t a case of you searching for four minor bad points in a good game - this is you rubbishing a game you don’t like. That’s what has annoyed folks.

[@BeatEmUps]

I like these videos. It's hard at times to watch you defile these amazing games, but I do agree with you at the same time. While the game as a whole is one of the best from the older generation, I do agree with all 5 points made. So yeah. Awesome. :)

[@divineholinessjr]

well like i said trying to warn every one sonic is a clone of mario and repeating proof now that creepy picture and stuff the sonics are wearing marios mustache so proof

[@Sky_Dhave]

Oh hey Wood!

[@15-Peter-20]

Do you ? Do you really ? Wow you're amazing !

[@595no]

I love how the themes for the Positives and Negatives are on their proper key (Positives = Major) (Negatives = Minor)

[@GameSack]

I can come up with 4 different negatives for this game easily. #1 - I don't like playing 3 stages of each zone. Gets repetitive fast. #2 - US version not complete, JP version is better. #3 - Only a 4 Meg cart. Could have been 8 and been fleshed out more. #4 - No spin dash. Still the first game is my favorite in the series. Part 2 is really good as well, I just hate Tails to death and I kind of already had my fill of Sonic by then. I'm not a huge Sonic fan overall to be honest but I do like his first two games. I don't think Sonic was designed for speed. He was designed as a character who can happen to go really fast. But he was marketed almost entirely on speed which can change expectations for the game. Nowadays the speed thing is being designed into the games because that's what people expect and it just doesn't work tremendously well.

[@DukeApples]

Play Sonic 1 on your Cell phone, its a updated and completed game.... also, same for Sonic 2 on Mobile, its the Definitive version, since its complete with extra levels that were cut out.

[@sliceofpistudios]

Not having something a sequel doesn't is not a negative, I do agree with all of your other points though

[@GameSack]

sliceofpi productions Huh?

[@GTXDash]

Just skip Sonic 1 and 2 and just play "Sonic 3 & Knuckles". It's not just one of the best sonic games out there, but it's also one of the best games ever.

[@SakuraAvalon]

Game Sack He's trying to say that just because the first one lacks a feature that later ones had, doesn't make it a negative. Like complaining you can't slide in Mega Man 2.

[@thedrunkmonkshow]

Real talk, I honestly can't counter argue any of his points. As much as Sonic 1 has a special place in my heart and it's the first Genesis game I ever played, things like the obstacles, the enemies, the moving platforms, the excessive amount of press switches, and things of that nature severely cock blocked Sonic from doing what he does. He wants to rip and run but the bullshit level design doesn't allow for it 90% of the time. What made games like Sonic 2 and Sonic 3 so special is that they understood the error in their ways and made sure to include "straightaways" where Sonic could just go nuts at blindingly fast speed. The first time I saw in Sonic 2's Chemical Plant Zone 1 where he builds speed from spring bouncing down 3 ramps but then touched the spinning tire boost, forcing him down the ramp at blinding speeds, to where his ass flew off the damn screen? MAAAAAAAANNN!!!! I dropped the controller and shed a tear of joy. ;)..

[@Holothurion]

Judging by the comments, it's pretty obvious that many users don't even know what the Negatives series is all about. Either that, or they're just rabbid fanboys.

[@thomasjenkins7506]

i'd say it's a little bit of both. sonic fanboys are just unreasonable, but it does seem like a few of the commenters really don't know the point of these videos.

[@Holothurion]

Indeed.

[@TerrorOfTalos]

It's always sonictards on that bullshit

[@subzero8679]

You're a fanboy of something too. Don't act like you're above the Sonic fanboys. All of you fanboys are little bitches. There are many great video game consoles and they all have their shit games and good games. Those are facts.

[@RedTsarOldChannel-INACTIVE]

Even as a Sonic fan myself, I do think that the first game (alongside it's younger brother, Sonic CD) aged horribly. Sonic 2 and even the Master System version of StH aged way better than the Mega Drive version.

[@EmoryM]

Pointing out the negatives of a beloved game is a great idea. I'm going to resist getting heated! :)

[@electricmastro]

I think that comparing this game to its sequels multiple times is a little unfair, as it indeed laid the basic groundwork for them. I think that if this were to be the only Sonic game to be released ever and then you somehow came across it down the road, then I'm sure you would be singing a different tune here.

[@olofelfstedt7028]

All of these problems are caused of Sega not knowing what worked for Sonic and what didn't. The reason for the Mario type level design comes from Mario being the popular video game character at that time. Homever these problems could easily be fixed with a sequel. (And they were)

[@divineholinessjr]

yeah there is the mustache seems simular to marios and the mario type design thing may be correct but the mario mustache think about it what all the did is made a made mario a hedgechog and made him the fastest thing in the game though i said proof of it all so and stuff and i this saying but believe what you want this dont curse about it it this a game

[@mylifeingaming]

Out of all the games in the Sonic series, the first one is the only one I truly love. 2 and 3 never made much of an impact on me and I just couldn't get into them. I like Sonic CD more than the 2 & 3&K. While I acknowledge the faults of the first game, the overall experience was just way more enjoyable for me.

[@michaelromeo9567]

EXACTLY! Sega had to deal with main stream and casual gamers. Sonic is just PERFECT! but too challenging for mainstream who think You gotta nobrain go fast straight forward ,without knowing the stages the secrets etc.. Even if Sonic 2 was beautiful and was the first game I owned I have to admit that Sonic 1 and CD are way better (when you you don't use the cheat codes Like a scrub!) ^^.

[@TheGaara802]

@@michaelromeo9567 nothing is perfect about this game stop being a nostolgic dumbass after green hill zone it's no longer about being fast, no spin dash, this game is actually pretty slow. Why are you talking about grt gud bitch nothing about this game is hard just tedious.

[@JohnCenaIsMyDad]

sonic 1 is trash lol

[@drzerogi]

I get that. In Sonic 1 and Sonic CD, speed is earned. When you get used to the controls and stages, you can have moments of speed. And the deliberate slow platforming moments, combined with bits of exploration, help keep things fresh. In the newer games where Sonic is fast all the time, its too easy and kind of boring.

[@Xplasma1]

Going back and playing the classic Sonic games on the Sega Genesis I noticed differing themes with Sonic 1, 2, and 3. Sonic 1 has a vaguely Sci-Fi/futuristic theme. Spring Yard zone shows this off, Starlight Zone shows it off even more, and the first level of Scrap Brain zone is obviously Blade Runner inspired. Sonic 2 has a more present day theme, mixed with environmentalism, most noticeable in Chemical Plant and Oil Ocean. Sonic 3 is a jungle island with ancient magic protected by a tribal guardian, who is easily tricked and can't jump very high.

[@MissileMeezoo]

I won't deny Sonic 1 has aged a little, but I still like the challenge it provides. It lays down the basics of Sonic gameplay so you can later acquaint yourselves with the sequels. It's a bit like Mega Man 1 in that regard.

[@daintyfisherman602]

Negatives: Every level after Green Hill Zone

[@Fungiarts]

No, I prefer even star light zone over Green Hill.

[@RetroEjit]

Great vid Shane :) Really enjoy the idea of examining the flaws in the classics, as eventhough we all love these games no game is perfect and its great seeing someone tackle them this way :) Cant wait for the next episode :)

[@nignamedmutt7270]

The best part is this channel doesn't take the cheap-ass "cinemasins" route that so many do, where they throw in unfair criticisms "for laughs". That shtick has gotten so fucking stale it's ruined itself.

[@MrRebelutionary]

I never really liked the first sonic as much as a kid, because it is slower than the others, and it has a duller color palette. Plus it was harder. But now it's my favorite, mostly because of how quickly you can get through the levels. Plus, it's satisfying when you defeat the enemies when you're skilled enough to hit the right spots. This game is a lot about skill, and if you're good at timing your jumps and spin dashing, then you can definitely fly through to the end. Also, the music in this one is the best.

[@Lopson13]

Sonic 1 was slower, yes, but that was a deliberate choice. You had to work very hard to attain a good speed, and that in itself was very rewarding. In the other games, the spindash was introduced, and it gave the players instant speed at zero cost. So in terms of balance, Sonic 1's mechanics/level design are better. Sonic Team tried to improve the spindash formula in Sonic CD by making the spindash costly time-wise, which worked wonderfully, but that, sadly, was ignored in future games.

[@knucklestheechidna9565]

my sonic 1 negatives: 1. Marble Zone and Star Light Zone should replace positions. 2. The Special Stages suck in any way, shape and form. 3. There are Speed caps that prevent Sonic from going fast. 4. No lock on compability with Sonic & Knuckles to create Knuckles in Sonic 1 (because dem palette issues)

[@axylorionfredrick]

Knuckles The Echidna Knuckles is playable in Sonic 3, but is it just Sonic 3 levels. Warning: This is not Sonic 3 & Knuckles!

[@GamingTaylor]

I think it would be amazing if you took this format of bullet point listings of positives, and negatives, and translated it into full reviews for newer games. Sure it would take longer to do, but I think it would be far more successful then retro games.

[@CazMeister]

Hmm... first Mario, now Sonic... Do I detect a Crash Bandicoot Negatives? A Bonk Negatives? What title shall the mighty Rerez find the negatives in? Tune in next time, same Rerez time, same Rerez channel!

[@theofficialchannelofoffici7962]

Super bonk negatives Super bonk negatives SUPER BONK NEGATIVES *SUPER BONK NEGA-* Yeah I would really love that

[@braselthegamer]

I recently finished this game for the first time about a month ago. I didn't have a Genesis growing up. I completely agree that the level design hinders Sonic's movement in a lot of the stages. The Green Hill Zone allowed Sonic to move incredibly fast, but beyond that, most of the levels didn't really allow you to get going. If you did start running quickly, you were likely to run headfirst into an enemy or other obstacle and lose momentum. I remember the game being marketed on speed versus what Super Mario Bros brought. This one didn't really deliver outside the first level. I also really didn't like how each zone had three stages, and repeated most of the same themes in each stage. Sonic 2 was a vast improvement. That's not to say I didn't enjoy my play through of Sonic 1. It was still an enjoyable experience and the game itself really out performed a great number of games released in it's day.

[@Dr_Zamus]

I agree with your points. My first videogame was the Sega Génesis with Sonic 2. After that, I get Sonic 3 and finally I played Sonic & Knucles. The last two (Im fact they are the same Game) are my favorit games, maybe of all time. Years later, I played Sonic 1, and until now, I can't feel that Game like a true Sonic Game. I like Green Hill zone, and the Soundtrack of marble garden. But that's all.

[@cjhs2006]

I Feel Bad For How Sega Ultimately Came to an End When it Comes to Making Consoles,I Know it Was Really The Fault of The Stubborn CEOs of The Japanese Headquarters,if They Had Just Listened to The Advice of The American CEOs Then Maybe The Saturn Wouldn’t Have Failed Then The Dreamcast Definitely Wouldn’t Have Failed,&,Sega Would Still be in The Console Market Today

[@bluehero4467]

I get you to a point. Sonic was pretty slow in the game. (Fixed in the other games) but sonic 1 was a experimental game for the series (like jam) so alot of your negatives are obvious but have no ground to stand on. And even on the box it basically says that if you find any issues, "it's one of Dr. Robotniks tricks"

[@peterlane1391]

To be clear, Sonic 1 is riddled with negatives that are nearly all addressed in the later games. It doesn't make the game bad. Hell no. The soundtrack and art are still kickass, Sonic is still a good character, Green Hill Zone is still iconic, when you can get it, the speed is still amazing. But getting angry when people bring up legit downsides is silly. The game does have fewer leaves than Mario 1. It does have no two players mode. There is no way to save. The enemies are placed horribly You gotta accept that and enjoy Sonic Mania.

[@mwermuthland]

So surprised to hear that you never owned Sonic the Hedgehog when you owned a Genesis, since it was the pack-in game (though Genesis did have different pack-in games over the years).

[@Cyperstudio]

can you make the positives to this game's gba port?

[@demonhunter635]

koopa gaming 64 .......it has a gba port? A licensed port?

[@Cyperstudio]

odoyoudo yes,look up sonic genesis gba on youtube. you might find a couple of reviews.

[@AwesomeShocker]

Can't believe you didn't mention the special stages.

[@ZipplyZane]

I think the reason you get so many people freaking out is that you overstate your points, at least in the bullet points. Number 1 isn't "bad combat" it is "Combat is not as refined as in the sequels." Number 2 isn't "mundane boss battles" but "Boss battles get repetitive." Number 3 isn't "boring levels" but "Levels aren't designed around Sonic's abilities, and get repetitive." And number 4 is not "Sonic is slow" but "Level design slows Sonic down too much." Or if you need them in headline form: 1. Less refined combat 2.Repetitive boss battles 3. Repetitive levels 4. Slow levels (#4 kinda incorporates the other part of #3.)

[@wkcyrokin122]

I just played this game for the first time tonight and I noticed your first negative right off the bat. I had fun but didn't actively try to engage enemies because I kept getting my rings knocked out of me...

[@VideoGameCinemaVGC]

I have to agree with you. Now, I'm a HUGE Sonic fan. Both Classic and Modern. But, the first Sonic the Hedgehog really doesn't do much for me. :P Great video! I can't wait to see more Negatives!

[@loupetron]

Always great work, sir. Thanks for the video!

[@mothtolias]

Seeing the flaws in the original Sonic really highlights how far the devs have come since those early days - and that enables them to be appreciated all the more.

[@willy24able]

***** Have you forgotten one thing? THAT FUCKING LABYRINTH ZONE THAT WAS INFAMOUS BY MANY! FUCK THIS LEVEL!

[@nicholastosoni707]

Especially Act 3...

[@willy24able]

Nicholas Tosoni Thanks for pointing that out! Seriously, it's boss fight was horrible it's one of the worst fights I've ever seen in a Sonic game.

[@kieranstark7213]

*Half-thousandth* mariotehplumber disliked this to hell.

[@SirNarax]

Sonic 1 was a good game. Then Sonic 2 and 3 made it a bad game. Then the rest of the Sonic games made it a good game again.

[@noahvegetables]

I love that Death Proof poster in the background!

[@DehLogund]

If you take suggestions, I want to see negatives for Sonic 2

[@alvarochaves1999]

@@mosestong739 Nope. Sonic 2's level design is abysmal (terrible enemy positioning), there's several glitches (making the game felling very unfinished), playing only with Tails on single-player is pointless.

[@RedTsarOldChannel-INACTIVE]

@@alvarochaves1999 But compared to the first game,Sonic 2's level design was perfect.

[@alvarochaves1999]

@@RedTsarOldChannel-INACTIVE But one of the levels of Sonic 2 features holes with spikes that you can't escape.

[@RedTsarOldChannel-INACTIVE]

@@alvarochaves1999 I do think you're mentioning Metropolis Zone,and Sonic 1 is essentially that level but now as an standalone game.

[@alvarochaves1999]

@@RedTsarOldChannel-INACTIVE Also the original Sonic 2 have a rushed development. The levels featured on the magazines at that time were cut from the final game.

[@Nintensonsoft]

The Negatives theme song just works so much better (even though it just seems to be The Positive theme's minor key companion with some small tweaks).

[@rerez]

Thank Epic Game Music for that. He is the master musician. :)

[@Nintensonsoft]

Haha, awesome! Yeah, great theme. The Positives theme is good too, but I definitely prefer the Negatives theme.

[@HelloFade2]

Sonic the Hedgehog, a game where the main hero is blue, all the enemies are robots, and the main bad guy is an evil doctor...*coughmegamancough*

[@Ultimatedogfan]

Don't get me wrong, Sonic 1 is not perfect, at all, but I disagree with this video, the platforming may be slow most of the time, but it's well done, it has unique mechanics and can be manipulated in a great way with your momentum (plus Green Hill is not the only fast zone, Starlight and Spring yard are pretty speedy in fact), and as for the "Sonic's slow", well, Sonic 1 is not meant to be inmediately fast when pressing a button, thus, he's going to be slow if you want him to be, but thanks to the momentum mechanics, gaining a bit of speed and then jumping at the right time will allow you to skip slow segments, it's a game meant to be speedrunned, though again, it's not perfect, it's slower than they made it out to be and it can be pretty unfair to the player (The wild water in Labyrinth or the bottom less pits from Starlight, to give an example), I can agree with the boss point, if anything

[@flaviopante91]

Sounds like someone's missing the point here. To all you guys being like "WOOOO sonic is the best game ever don't touch my favourite game of all time mario is worse": you are simply misinterpreting the video. The point of the "Negatives" series is to find negative aspects of games known for being very good, so no one is saying Sonic 1 is bad: if it was there wouldn't be a Negatives video on it. Sonic's quality isn't into questions. And... guys, what's the point of fighting about a video review of a fucking videogame (moreover, a fucking 20 years old videogame)? Jesus Christ on a cab, stupid Internet people are stupid

[@tarmoruusu7933]

No one is thinking that he thinks that Sonic 1 is objectively bad. It's just that people don't understand the negatives he mentions and these are still supposed to make sense, alright. If he has to really struggle with the points like with positives of very bad games, I'd want him to acknowledge it like in those reviews. Yes, I understand that this is his opinion. He simply is used to the later Sonic games and finds this game to be out of his comfort zone. I can totally sympathize with him, even though I personally first tried Sonic 1 (in mobile) and found it to be a rewarding challenge and could appreciate the platforming innovations. But if I was used to something I would find departure (not technically a departure, since this is the first game) as uncomfortable.

[@Dappergaming]

Are you telling me that Sega lied about how fast blast processing made Sonic?

[@LegendaryBadass]

You got it wrong. Mario was not created to be a mascot, but Sonic was. Mario became the mascot on the strength of his games, while Sonic only on marketing. Thus, Mario rides strong to this day.

[@ElephantMariotheRHDNhater3293]

"4: Sonic's Slow" SammyClassicSonicFan would like to have a word with you, Rerez

[@NERDmNERDf]

I have to agree with all of your points on here. Even at a young age, when I had all the original genesis sonic games, I liked the original the least out of all of them. And since I had played the others, I really miss the spindash. I freaking love that thing. Thankfully theres rom hacks souly made to put it into the game.

[@TheEpicGamer1200]

Your saying the boss battles are boring? What about super mario bros? You literally just get a pickaxe or whatever that is and done.

[@Thisisforvortex]

+The Luiginator By the time Sonic the Hedgehog was out, Super Mario Bros 3 had been out for a year in the US.

[@Spaztron64]

+Thisisforvortex Even in Mario 3 the boss battles are similar with small changes with each one.The only one that stands out is the final boss battle.

[@Thisisforvortex]

+SpazZTRoN64 They're way less predictable than eggman, and some can prove a thorn on your side. Eggman looks cool and has a new gimmick each time, but he tends to be way easier than the level he's in. In sonic 1.

[@Spaztron64]

Thisisforvortex You got that right.Especially when bowser starts throwing hammers.

[@chloeprice7347]

+SpazZTRoN64 Also, b0ss battles in the first 3 sonic games, they`re corny, funny, they intended to make it this way. It`s a FKING JOKE. And that is great!

[@ShadowtheYouTuber523]

WTF are you saying? Sure Sonic wasn't that fast in his first game but still he was much faster than Mario (HONESTLY). And the bosses look easy usually.

[@stephenbarker5093]

i wouldn't know if the bosses are very easy.

[@SakuraAvalon]

Actually, he's slower then Mario. But that's just a theory... a *Game Theory*.

[@ShadowtheYouTuber523]

Youji Sagan Oh yeah? Well, they increased Sonic's speed in Sonic 2 (Genesis)

[@ShadowtheYouTuber523]

Stephen Barker And since Sonic The Hedgehog 2 (Game Gear) the bosses have became harder

[@SakuraAvalon]

Sonic The Angry Bird Too bad his video's about Sonic 1! Hahaha! >:3

[@kiwifruitjelly4545]

Negative no. 5: DE GOSH DARN SPIKE GLITCH !!!1!111!1!!!!!!!!!11!1!!!!ONE

[@Jolis_Parsec]

Funny you should say that about the first Sonic game feeling like a slightly edgier Super Mario Bros considering there’s a fan-made version that replaces Sonic with Mario and adds in his typical abilities while also keeping the Sonic spin-dash as a viable option. I believe it’s called Somari the Explorer in case you’re curious.

[@Luckyfoxoval78]

Yeah, Deathproof in the background!

[@rerez]

It's one of my favourite posters ever! :)

[@nightazday7988]

Starlight zone was pretty fast pace, but you got to go through the Labyrinth zone to get to it.

[@ramgladore]

These are fair criticisms of Sonic 1. It seems to me like the first zone was built the way they intended but kinda shoe horned the platforming levels in. The whole game should have been like the Green Hill and Star Light zones. You can tell they made some improvements in Sonic 2. I especially loved the pipe runner special stages except then they have zones like Sky Chase and Wing Fortress Zones which unfortunately were concepts that showed the lesson hadn't been completely learned from what doesn't work from their first game. Sonic 3 and Knuckles I'd say was when the series had a strong idea of how to make a proper Sonic game.

[@joanmadden8820]

You were right Shane about some levels that slow down Sonic in Sonic 1 but to me is Marble Zone parts of Spring Yard Zone, Labyrinth Zone and Parts of Scrap Brain Zone and Final Zone

[@SeekerLancer]

Interesting channel full of devil's advocate style arguments. Subbed!

[@Sylverias]

As much as I dislike Sonic games, it is completely unfair to retroactively compare the first entry in a series to the later entries in a series and say "It should have been more like those games they didn't make yet." If you want to make valid points about the flawed mechanics, pacing, level design, and so on, that's fine, but back them up existing reasoning, not with comparisons to future titles.

[@Dragonnestify]

He can, because he is comparing it without tkaing in account the time, and these are examples, the flaws are simple so dont understand the nitpicking

[@plemgrubern]

Sylverias regardless of if it would be fixed in future games or not, these negatives are there. so it's perfectly valid to point them out.

[@billyhatcher643]

wow u hate the sonic games ur a sad person sonic has more amazing levels and more abilities than mario in the later games and mario is more of the same than sonic

[@BowserandLover1]

Now I can see why people keep saying Sonic the Hedgehog 2 was the best game in the series.Lol You do have to give the original game some credit though. It was Sega's first attempt at trying something different yet familiar in an 2D adventure platformer and once they learned what was the main selling point for that game, they used those features and created the masterpiece that was Sonic the Hedgehog 2.

[@MegapiemanPHD]

I was never a big fan of Sonic. I always found him hard to control in the old games and couldn't figure out where to go on some of the levels.

[@kenterminateddq5311]

"Mundane Boss Battles"???? That should of been a negative for your Super Mario Bros. video, Shane.

[@chrisservos4772]

one's on the nes, the other's on genesis.

[@kenterminateddq5311]

Chris Servos And?

[@chrisservos4772]

kenterminatedbygoogle more limitations. It was also one of the first adventure platformer with bosses.

[@sinbysin666]

+Chris Servos The boss battles are bad on Mario 2, 3, and World as well.

[@wayneultrex4105]

+Chris Servos Look at the mega man games they had good boss fights, sure they were release after mario bros but it was not that long.

[@SuperHns]

I agree about the boss battles, however they could be catogorized under the "Combat" label. However, the final boss (plus the music) is epic!

[@AttitudeIndicator]

How about Negatives for Megaman! Great video Rerez.

[@AmaroqStarwind]

You forgot to mention that the first game's European release was never optimized for the PAL standard, so it is actually a slower game when played on a PAL console.

[@pauliejay4161]

I'm a big Sonic fan, and I can agree with these points.

[@gamesdonovan7666]

what was your pack in game for your genesis?

[@shahid1296ify]

Every negative he points out were actually positives for back in the 90s as we didn't know any different. it's very easy years on to say this isn't good and that isn't good as games have changed so much over the years , so of course it's not going to be as good of a buzz as it was when it was first released!

[@ashura.itadori]

Do a negatives on the Sonic movie.

[@salewdpez4952]

May I make some suggestions for the next Negatives? Fable: The Lost Chapters Halo Combat Evolved Psyconaughts (me tanks I spelled it wrong). At least think about it. Might be fun...

[@Kyubeyisbestboy]

Negatives = Blue background with minus signs. Positives = red background with positive signs. Is this a reference to Minun and Plusle?

[@pretybombur9545]

+Riolu You have a minun background Anyone in for a identity crisis?

[@hoppi4954]

Not the same going back though is it? This game was staggering at the time :)

[@therequiem4842]

Hey, this is TheRequiem95... the guy who flippantly blew off this video a while back as hackneyed. I'm not typically in a position to watch many KZbin videos, which is why I didn't watch it back then at the time, but I had time today, so here it goes... (I'm also well-medicated on my happy pills at the moment, so maybe I can be a bit more reasonable today) My original knee-jerk reaction to your video came from a viewpoint that many critics in the last 2-3 years have jumped on a Sonic-hate bandwagon, saying that the original Sonic games, all of them, were never any good, and they cite the same, tired rationale that 90% of the time can be levied against ANY game from the era. But like you mentioned, your video in particular certainly does fit with the overall theme of your channel, and I felt that your criticism was organic enough that I trust your intentions were honest. I guess that's an apology? Sure. We'll call it that. I'm sorry. You've got a pretty interesting channel here. I especially liked the Atari 2600 Pac-Man positives video. I should probably just stay away from social media when I'm off the meds, and I again apologize for being a bit of a douche. Live and learn?

[@rerez]

***** Haha, it's no problem dude. Water under the bridge. :)

[@stephenhillman8166]

The game might be bad but this is the birth of a legend (besides sonic 2006)

[@bsharpmajorscale]

Bold claims as always sir. Mega Man next?

[@korohacker]

I have to give credit to Shane for being able to change perspectives and plays the role of the devil's advocate, which I assume would certainly piss off some loyalists. And I think all the points are legit. Basically it's this: no games were, are, and will be completely perfect for everyone. People tend to forget that sometimes xD

[@bluefaolan]

Anybody thought of asking Shane to do a "Positives" video for Sonic '06?

[@littlebillychespin8716]

I can completely understand your point, but my only objection was this was Sega's first try with one of these things.

[@Reayashin]

A much superior Sonic 1 = *Metal Sonic Hyperdrive*.

[@knucklestheechidna9565]

Lone Devil Nice way to advertise your hack (I LOVE it)

[@Yahav13135]

Lone Devil I was just playing it! I also have Metal sonic in sonic 1, 2 and 3, can you please do metal sonic in sonic cd, sega cd version?

[@Reayashin]

S00N.....

[@Yahav13135]

Lone Devil awesome! thanks

[@LiamLexus]

You're too slow! Smash bros brawl fans'll get that.

[@epicgamer-bk7pv]

+Liam L. that's the one I grew up with! :D

[@xLithiumFlower1]

These videos aren't reviews, they're made for the purpose of nitpicking and trying to find things that don't work that well in a game that's praised, to contrast with his other series of finding good things in universally hated games. He's not saying the game sucks, he's still acknowledging it's good but just finding things in it that don't work that well and drag it down a bit.

[@CHOCOLATEPLAYSGAMES]

I like the theme of negatives better then the one of positives.

[@rerez]

The theme music is all ***** You should check out his stuff! :)

[@musicvideoenhancer]

Funny, some of this negativew, I think it fit more in Sonic 2 and 3 than Sonic 1. Sonic 3 is slow since the first stage, theres always a stone, a spike, a platform, to prevent you from running. Sonic 2 is easily the faster, and 3 and knuckles the slower. The stages from Sonic 1 are all very interesting, I dont know if I can say the same for Sonic 2 and 3. The second world of Sonic 2 is a nightmare, with the falls, and the water parts. Anyway, its a very interesting series, to see the pros and cons of hated/beloved games, it's simply genious.

[@frick5061]

an other negative is that none of these are negatives except for this one

[@frick5061]

i like this game for negatives so its a positive for me

[@scinorandex]

What is this one so called "negative" you're talking about?

[@frick5061]

i love games for glitches and what poeple would call negatives

[@DonnyKirkMusic]

"classic sonic is slow" ^ the definition of the phrase "missing the point"

[@ajjtheamazing5615]

I agree with most points except the boss fights one. Imo they're amazing

[@ToxPhy]

Can you do Spyro or Legend of Zelda next?

[@mirandakawasaki]

Sonics design of levels is a lot more creative.

[@kdsburneraccount7476]

How about Minecraft negatives video?

[@videotape2959]

The video would probably last an hour.

[@droptherapy2085]

There is nothing truly wrong with the game, it's the fanbase, consisting of 70% squeakers, 20 percent let's players and 10 percent everyone else that ruins it. I remember when I was 7 and Minecraft was AWESOME!!! Now everyone looks at it as "cancer" and "crap". The only thing truly bad about the game is that it has become too convoluted for it's own good.

[@videotape2959]

Yes there is something wrong with the game.Since Beta 1.7 (which was a snippet from 1.8) and Beta 1.8 it's been a complete disaster and it only got worse from there. Nowadays the game is an awful buggy mess, trying to be something it was never meant to be, and never will be.

[@droptherapy2085]

There has always been a game that has or at one point had glitches. I honestly don't play survival mode anymore, anyways. I usually go back to around 1.6 for that.

[@theutubepower1243]

Negative1: the fanbase Yeah that’s pretty much it tbh

[@ItsmeAz]

I use to hate sonic 1, but as I grew up I started to enjoy it's challenge. It's best not to view it as a game that's suppose to be fast, I mean the whole blast processing thing was more of a Sonic 2 marketing thing.

[@tpem7777]

Well the reason the original Sonic the Hedgehog probably feels like a Super Mario Bros clone is because the Creator said he got the idea for the gameplay from speed running Super Mario Bros

[@Na7ure]

This intro is great

[@Azariachan]

My issue with Sonic, even back then, was the amount of platforming they expected you to do. The controls were slippery and imprecise, and the slow pace killed the fun for me. I much prefer modern Sonic. It often feels like it's on rails, but you actually get a nice sense of speed which classic Sonic was sadly lacking.

[@daviddamasceno6063]

While I don't really think the original is a bad game, I like the master system version better. I doesn't have the annoying bonus stages, getting the chaos emeralds is much more fun, the levels have a sense of progression and even have a world map, the music is also much better in my opinion.

[@SquashOtacon]

Another great video! 🔵

[@starmarx5319]

Spin dash? I thought that just got added in Sonic 2, and then spliced into the Sonic 1 re-releases.

[@DaMarcus008]

Marble Zone: Slowest Zone ever Labyrinth Zone: Hardest Zone ever Star Light and Scrap Brain: Boring Zones ever Spring Yard Zone: Kinda clueless, but decent music Green Hill Zone: Best Zone ever, plus epic track!! And...No Spin Dash...just a light roll. SMH

[@TheBigDynamo]

As someone who generally likes the Sonic franchise, I agree with all of these negatives. I just don't enjoy the first game as much as I did the 2nd and 3rd game, Sonic and Knuckles being my favorite game in the series.

[@CressAlwein]

Nice vid. Keep it up!

[@cjhs2006]

I’ve Got The 2nd Sonic The Hedgehog Game For The Genesis,But I’ve Got no Genesis to Play it on,so Yeah That Sucks

[@DijaVlogsGames]

Most of these point are why I prefer Sonic 1 over Sonic 2 and 3. SEGA really brainwashed people into thinking Sonic is all about speed, even though, as you can see, the first one really isn't. It's about good platforming.

[@krisbentham1416]

I'd say the combat system was made to require some tectics to get past different creatures.

[@SugarRushGames]

Best games on the Genesis? Try one of the best games of all time!

[@acidpunk955]

Sonic's not slow man. The game is!. Remember, blast processing man!