Sonic X - A Complete Retrospective

[@mangawriter]

Oh and Bocoe and Decoe Existed

[@accent1666]

and Bokun

[@mangawriter]

Oh yeah forgot about him lmao

[@accent1666]

that was an amazing review MW, i agree with lots of things that you said ( and its 10 tons of flaws in logic & plot holes) yet, in my personal opinion i liked this series a lot (maybe i enjoyed this more than you did) but that's alright, i think its because of nostalgia+being sonic related contnet and i just skip to the Adventures and Metarex sagas since they're the best part of the series for me

[@mangawriter]

@@accent1666 You're perfectly allowed to like Sonic X. Like if you enjoyed it, that's fine. I just overall didn't lol

[@accent1666]

@@mangawriter fair enough, i'm excited to see what your next video is gonna be

[@graysongdl]

"Mobians can survive in space, but can't survive in water." This is actually canon to the games, as well.

[@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376]

@@graysongdl Well nothing can breathe underwater except sea animals

[@graysongdl]

@@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376 Well... yeah, the same is true of space in real life, except sea animals are out of luck there, too.

[@ExEBoss]

What probably made *Molly’s* death even harder for *Shadow* is her resemblance to *Maria.*

[@just_a_rebel8261]

Underrated comment

[@d-swagg9683]

I was like 12 or 13 when metarex arc aired. And this was the conclusion I came to even back then considering shadow has been my personal favorite character period across all formats. SA2 was the first time I ever realized the games could actually have story. The Genesis games' stories when over 4-7 year old me's head.

[@behnamhassanpoor6793]

Chaotix and tails and cosmo relationship were the best part of the series for me along with emrel arc.

[@pixigirldust]

Same. Cosmo has to be the only good thing to come out of Sonic X tbh

[@rayanramon9904]

@@pixigirldust you really gonna do best girl helen dirty huh?

[@d-swagg9683]

​@@rayanramon9904maybe best out of the human kid friend group. The professor oak clone was my personal favorite human character.

[@chocoearly]

1:29:02 Actually, Shadow addressed this problem when Tails and Cosmo were cornered by him. He said "Perhaps it's better for you not to know" Because SPOILERS Cosmo is a spy for the Matarex and he thought that she would have died in peace without knowing.

[@endrewhagrid]

It's dumb. Like COMPLETELY DUMB

[@PlanetZoidstar]

A big problem I had with the Chaos Saga was Zero easily snatching Amy with she HAS been shown to be able to fight. The whole point of her arc in Sonic Adventure was Amy realising she couldn't always rely on Sonic and that running away wasn't always an option. When Birdie gets hurt that's her breaking point and she beats Zero to a pulp. That's well and good in that game...But not in Sonic X. She's ALREADY been shown to be a capable fighter, so her forgetting she can fight and just getting snagged by Zero makes NO sense in the show's continuity. I also didn't like how Chris stole not only Amy's moment during the Shadow Saga, but also Rouge's as well.

[@Schnort]

What is with Sa1 and people learning independence from Sonic?

[@PlanetZoidstar]

@@Schnort Because up till that point Sonic's supporting cast relied on him to be the hero. Tails the sidekick, Knuckles the rival, Amy the damsel in distress, etc.

[@cliffturbo2146]

Guess you could say it made Zero sense?

[@Nonjola]

What bothers me so much about Chris Thorndyke is that Chris acts like his life is so terrible, that only Sonic can make him happy. I get the concept behind him, they wanted to write him as this lonely rich kid, that is unhappy because his parents are never there for him and money alone doesn't make him happy, kinda like Remy Buxaplenty from Fairly Odd Parents, but this is not how the show wrote him. His parents always run immediately to him, when they found out that he might be could be in trouble, he has a very cool grandpa that builds stuff, an uncle that is a race car racer, and he has three close friends in Helen, Danny, and Frances. I'm sorry, but this kid has a very good life. He comes off more as a Sonic-obsessed fanboy that only cares about that and not the people in his real life.

[@micjimster4845]

There's a lot of people who have a good life but still feel lonely and sad some people just can't feel happy no matter what they have

[@luckylol]

You can still feel lonely even if you have few friends.

[@fightingmedialounge519]

@@luckylol yeah, but I would say he has more than a few, and the story never really goes into why sonic stops him from feeling lonely specifically.

[@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376]

​@@luckylol Chris is better than Remy because Remy is a villain who tries to get rid of Timmy's fairies for no reason.

[@Thatphantomsaboteur]

⁠@@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376except Remy's reasons is that he has both parents and fairy godparents that neglects him and envies Timmy for actually having parent figures that cares for him

[@KirbySonicTeam]

It is a crying shame this video is so underrated. This is exactly the kind of video I’ve always wanted to see about sonic x, an actual good faith thorough breakdown of the characters and story instead of boring moment to moment recap followed by a sentence of analysis of opinion. This is it. You did a great job, and have encouraged me to watch this show just so I can get to those moments of greatness you so excellently dissected.

[@KirbySonicTeam]

Oh! I see you hearted this! Since I have your attention I just wanted to say I think I remember you used to have some Archie sonic videos? But I don’t see them anymore. Either way I made a character analysis of Archie sonic and I’d love for you to watch and leave your thoughts since I so enjoy your the way you explain critiques. So if you watch it that would be awesome! It’s called “Why Archie Sonic is the Best Sonic”m.” Take care man

[@d-swagg9683]

​@@KirbySonicTeamyooo that one was a banger man. I found urs like last year and it's 1 of my go-tos when I need a memory refresher or something under an hour to recommend to ppl to get em to try out some archie sonic.

[@kylejones8289]

So I have a confession to make: Episode 18 was my favorite episode of the entire show as a kid. I actually rewatched it recently, and yeah, it's objectively really bad for pretty much all of the reasons you mentioned, but I also was reminded why I had loved it and why it had meant so much to me. I was a pretty awkward kid with poor self-esteem but was smart and gentle growing up, and other kids pretty quickly picked up that I was a prime target for bullying, which meant that the period of my life when Sonic X came out was pretty rough for that and several other reasons that I'd rather not get into. This was the first piece of Sonic media that I had consumed not counting some LCD handheld games that came with McDonald's Happy Meals, and I pretty quickly gravitated and identified with Tails after he was introduced, because I hadn't really seen many characters like him that were smart, awkward, and lacked self-confidence but were also kind. I pretty quickly felt a sort of kinship with him. So then episode 18 happened, and it pretty quickly made him my favorite fictional character of all time (and he's still pretty up there). It revealed that he, like me, had to suffer through being bullied. But he had someone that recognized that he was a good person who was worthy of friendship and kindness and that he had talents worth recognizing and supporting in Sonic. I legitimately cried in the scene where he explained how he had been bullied and how he and Sonic had first met. It gave me such a feeling of hope in a time in my life when I really needed that. That someone would be able to see that I had value and would actually understand me and treat me with kindness besides my family. I'm not really able to look at it objectively, but I still think that that specific sequence was really well done. But the episode around it is awful. I actually kind of like it in a so-bad-it's-funny way and because of the nostalgia I have associated with it, but it's in no way good.

[@d-swagg9683]

Yo 👍 this was a cool tale to hear. I had a similar experience with Tail's intro story in the 90s tv show. It's a pretty bare bones and simple episode. But if ur interested, it's not the SatAM, but the Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog (yeah weirdly enough there were 2 shows at the same time).

[@chronoverge]

Personally, the whole 'time freezing' plot is bullshit when you compare the two worlds' timelines. For every year that passes on Earth, a month passes on Mobius. Wouldn't time just slow down to an average of the two timelines instead of stopping completely? If it was gonna freeze, Mobius would need a timeline running in reverse so that the two timelines cancel each other out.

[@ykgcaramel6515]

Time passes at the same speed in both worlds, Chris accidentally sent himself to Sonic’s world at a point in time where it had only been 6 months.

[@chronoverge]

@@ykgcaramel6515 Was this ever stated in the show?

[@ykgcaramel6515]

@@chronoverge in the English dub I’m not sure about the sun though, tails is surprised that Chris created a machine to get there in “only 6 months” to which Chris replies “it’s been 6 years back home”

[@adcgdsin9320]

@@chronoverge I agree. These timelines cancelling each other out wouldn't make sense. Both timelines (on Earth and Mobius) diverge because as a year happens on earth, a month happens on Mobius. Even though Mobius has a slower timeline, Earth and Mobius' timeline still diverges because they never interact with each other after both of the planets' origin. Like you said, the only way for time to stop would be for one of the timelines (probably Earth) to reverse and then they'd cancel. And also, how would time stop all together if just Mobius and Earth converged? What about the other planets in the solar system? Do they somehow converge and cancel each other's timelines out too? What about the stars, galaxies, and other universes/dimensions, do they converge as well? TL;DR - That whole time freezing theory is definitely bullshit. Unless the universe somehow makes itself stop time (which the chances of that are 1 in infinity), time cannot freeze from two planets' converging timeline (even in the Sonic X universe). Also, considering Manga Writer's analysis and questioning of this theory, that just further proves that this theory makes no sense.

[@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376]

​@@adcgdsin9320 I do believe Eggman should've been the cause of it because I don't blame Chris for thinking Eggman's doing it considering he's always messing things up.

[@wannabehistorian371]

...Am I the only person who likes this show?

[@canabissskank]

no you are not since i like it too

[@FormalFilmsProductions]

i used to love this show so much

[@rayx1679]

No I like it too

[@callofhaloinfinite6336]

Nope.

[@ILoveAngelGabby]

No, I love this series

[@mcnugget118]

This show had so much potential. Like, a weekly Sonic shonen anime based off the Adventure era games? Thats a fucking great idea. But they just completely ruined it in so many ways from the writing to the animation quality and all that. I really wish they would try this again someday but with a better approach to everything because a Sonic shonen anime is still such a good idea.

[@maryafantalia4357]

Sonic X was shōnen in Season 2 and 3, just the Season 1 and post-SA1&2 episodes weren't that good.

[@Randomnon941]

Wasn't metarex amazing

[@maryafantalia4357]

@@Randomnon941 Ikr?!

[@D-Nova]

I a kid, I was always expecting Tanaka to turn out to be some sort of antagonist. He has this Captain Black look which I always found suspicious.

[@MagmaPaint]

I made it through the Shadow Saga discussion without shedding a tear (the soldier's interview and Shadow's true memory of Maria's wish put up a fight, they were so impactful), but once it got to Cosmo's sacrifice and the Molly episode, cue the ugly crying. If anyone can get through those Metarex episodes without feeling anything, I just have to ask them... Who hurt you?

[@maryafantalia4357]

True!

[@P_MC478]

Do you honestly expect a bungo stray dogs fan to cry at that?

[@ryanfoxcroft]

I would have been perfectly fine if Chris didn't come back after 50 episodes. The fact that that moment even happened at the end when Chris stopped the time machine for Sonic to enter his own world was a big middle finger to the audience. Sure it's a plot twist but it makes it worse when all that build up with Chris was all thrown out the window. It's one thing if Chris was only a secondary character but since he's the main character, it makes this moment much more infuriating. The story is such a flop because of that moment alone. Well at least he had some use in season 3 so there's that at least

[@AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH]

I actually liked him in Season 3 Sonic's little speech to him about how You are You was a nice little moment

[@luckylol]

Chris was meant to represent the viewers in Japan. And Sonic isn't very popular over there. They mostly do audience surrogates in animes. Sonic X was primarily influnced by other anime rather than work from the West. It was originally created by The Sonic Team and Tokyo Movie Shinsha Entermainment.

[@fightingmedialounge519]

@@luckylol wouldn't say surrogate characters are all that unique to Japan, or that Chris even qualifies as one given his background.

[@comixproviderftw_02]

One name... "Chris".

[@behnamhassanpoor6793]

I think he was alright in season 3 at least in that season he wasn't that annoying.

[@d-swagg9683]

A name so bad that it traversed all the worst embarrassments of being a sonic fan. Just try adding a nice friendly and casual........ -chan. Everybody knows that, "Everybody Hates Chris".

[@supermariof0521]

HOT TAKE: Donut Lord is basically Chris done right.

[@splat-trainproductions]

Exactly! Also, Donut Lord (AKA: Thomas Wachowski) is Sonic's father figure, so he's teaching Sonic to be a better hero because Sonic is still a kid, so it works.

[@supermariof0521]

@@splat-trainproductions Not to mention unlike Chris, Tom doesn't needlessly hijack the two Sonic movies. Both movies are still primarily about Sonic. Especially since Tom's arc was already finished in the first movie, so the sequel allowed for Sonic to hold his own weight full time.

[@Oneforus21111]

Thats not a hot take.

[@superherochestsymbol1032]

The movies in general are just 👌

[@supermariof0521]

@@Oneforus21111 You'd be surprised that even the worst Sonic characters have rabbid defenders.

[@TeethSkylark]

13:10 There are two Chris's inside you. One is gay. The other is also gay.

[@boldnbrash214]

I was just skimming through the comments. This had me spitting out my drink. 😂

[@Milkmanrules1032]

Yea the main protagonists of this show is Tails and Cosmo if you think About it. Definitely a major switch up from the first two seasons.

[@luckylol]

Yeah season 3 didnt focus much on Chris

[@name_not_found3092]

Dark Sonic was just Sonic’s emotions mixed with the powers of the Dark Emeralds

[@adcgdsin9320]

1:28:49 In the 4KIDS dub, Tails say that the palm trees are there so that the crew could have morale or keep the motivation. That's a way better explanation than claiming that you need palm trees to fly the ship.

[@lazilyymade]

This video is really good, the editing was on point.

[@justanactualrealbear]

This is excellent. Hopefully there won't be any copyright issues with the upload this time.

[@dragonborn7955]

I guess you're unaware that Sega-Japan doesn't like the Mobius idea and that Mobius was a Sega-America idea and Sega-Japan pretty much fears the name Mobius.

[@darthvader473]

Even so, in the games from Sega-America Mobius is now called Earth.

[@joegreen3802]

I watched this a lot on 4 kids as a kid. (Kind of hard not to with how 4 kids milked this series for all its worth) And I did eventually check out the subbed version as well. And looking back on it, while I can see some charm here and there, I don't think it's a show worth my time anymore. I don't think it's overall bad, but I don't think it's really all that good ether.

[@peacockqueen]

You know? If we combined the action, fights and themes of Sonic Prime with the interpretation of the characters that Sonic X gives them, we would have the perfect Sonic show

[@fightingmedialounge519]

Probably not.

[@Mirthful_Panda]

Didn’t SEGA do the same thing with Forces by mixing Colors and Generations to make a game, but taking the worst parts from each game? I’m honestly happy with the shows we got

[@maryafantalia4357]

No, don't even compare Prime with Sonic X. This show doesn't present any real characters except a poorly-written Sonic.

[@d-swagg9683]

​@@maryafantalia4357Sonic X's sonic is poorly written?

[@maryafantalia4357]

@@d-swagg9683 You're kidding? How did you have been to make a mistake about this? Of course I'm not talking about Sonic X! Even the stupidest person would know it!

[@GamingintheAM0801]

This show us the reason I'm a fan of Off Course. That's the band whose songs they kept using. They were really popular in Japan during the late 70s and 80s. They're considered one of the most influential alt-rock bands in the country's history.

[@ferringsylveon219]

Chris looks disturbingly like Sora from Kingdom Hearts. qwq

[@cliffturbo2146]

Man, where's his Keyblade when he needs one.

[@d-swagg9683]

​@@cliffturbo2146he sold it so he could afford a wedding with Sonic. 😂

[@cinnajunkie3079]

I liked the show a lot when I was younger, mostly the chaotix, Knuckles, and Shadow.

[@ominicronikal0902]

40:29 the way bro said dogsh!t ironically went hard

[@xscythe67]

The Egg Moon saga is actually Advance 1's storyline, this is probably the most logical answer to why the Moon looks fixed in the rest of the games

[@Gerik75]

I don't know, I never considered Eggman to be the worst part but instead one of the most entertarning part of the show, and I also found his plan in the Eggmoon saga very cleaver to how he could conquire the world by false diplomacy and instead of just blowing stuffs up. And also that Eggman is much more affably in this version so I can accept him to be more petty and bubbling that in the game. And I never was shocked by cops and humans to be distrusfull with Sonic. I mean, they also the same thing in our world, so I wasn't surprised to changing opinions very fast.

[@FirstLast-mn4re]

I still think Season 3 is worth watching. It definitely still has a lot of the problems mentioned in the video like the start of the whole arc feeling very forced, and dark sonic just not ever coming up again making that whole episode feel kind of pointless, but I think even the bad parts aren't unwatchable and I think the good parts are some of the best storytelling in the Sonic series. I guess it kind of helps that season 3 is very disconnected from the first 2 seasons so you lose almost nothing from season 3 by skipping the first two seasons. Its definitely not perfect and is a mixed bag in terms of quality, but I think the villains were pretty interesting and the more emotional episodes towards the end were actually some of the best parts of the whole show.

[@maryafantalia4357]

The debut isn't forced at all, it comes with a real cause and reason! And sorry but that's Dark Sonic who deserves to be called "forced". Sonic would never succumb to his negative feelings.

[@canabissskank]

me when i see the scene where eggman steals a chaos emerald straight out of tails hand and no one would see it:*PROCCEDS TO TYPE IN GOOGLE THIS IS TAILS BLIND OR IS HE JUST DUMB*

[@BJSolar02]

15:42 Well, Sonic is canonically faster than the speed of light, so this isn't really a problem

[@felikatze]

Sonic X is the show that taught me how to speak English. Of course I'll watch a two hour video about it.

[@Spamkromite]

1:41:00 The words said are "Ai shiteru/temo" by reading the lips. They are good at moving the lips for dramatic effect -- I even got surprised to understand the words "tasukete" during the chapter of Momonga watching humans being killed through his mirror since he couldn't listen to them through it, and he got the message clearly. I believe it's a nice touch they didn't make Tails to yell the words in that moment. Still, for all its flaws, it wasn't a great waste of arc.

[@Monhamd1000]

As a Sonic fan I completely agree with you but although i hate Chris Thorndyke

[@ludd4411]

Chris isnt that bad. I mean i watched the subbed version of Sonic X and I think he's an ok character. Just ok.

[@maryafantalia4357]

​@@ludd4411Oh sure he is bad. Only in Season 3 he is good. If you was able to enjoy him immediately, you must have started by the Season 3.

[@ritaandrunt5767]

I had forgotten how intense This show got in the later archs This video went really in depth and detailed everything that happened

[@veggsbacon1891]

If a mediocre sonic anime has some actual good storytelling (especially the metarix saga) and the recent games can't do blue balls, welp, you know Sonic Team effed up, again. Here's to Frontiers hopefully having a decent story and tone. 🍹

[@maryafantalia4357]

Finally your wish came true.

[@chaossonic1237]

And this was why I hated the two words idea, thank god Ian Flynn fixed it with tails tube

[@maryafantalia4357]

Absurd. Since when the "two worlds" thing was a bad idea? Sorry but Sonic and friends have no reason to live with humans and should have been called Mobians living on Mobius like with Archie Comics, and Sonic X is an excellent explanation of how why they suddenly live with humans.

[@chaossonic1237]

@@maryafantalia4357 Cept it wasnt called mobius in the anime it was called Sonic's world

[@maryafantalia4357]

@@chaossonic1237 Don't care. Mobius was a good name and Sonic and friends can't be simply Earthlings living with ordinary humans, it makes no sense and it's not interesting.

[@Qrown1145]

Personally if you watch Sonic X Sub all the way through it’s A+ at best! I fcking hate wat 4kids did cut out so many scenes to make it child friendly 😡 Don’t get me started on CHRIS Fcking hell should not even exist 😂

[@Nicola_2002]

Well, i watched Sonic X recently, and I really liked it, especially the chaotix🤣🤣. But yeah, there are many dumb parts (which I dont consider, because it would be too much), especially in the Egg moon ark (the only ark I agree to skip, 3 episodes of nothing). I hate 4kids for censoring the deaths, especially Molly. Why 4kids?!!!! So now I made this top tier list of the arks, from the best to the worst: 1. The Metarex Ark, the only one that has a solid story, and has Cosmo. 2. The Shadow Ark, or better, The Sonic Adv. 2 Ark, well if it wasnt for the Metarex this was my favorite because of Shadow, yeah! 3. The Chaos Emerald Ark, I really appreciated the searxhing of the emeralds and the final battle was so cool (I mean: how did Sonic managed to be still alive??). 4. The now world Ark, which was a good beginning, but just that, with the classic battles "Sonic Vs. Eggman"; at least it didnt last for the entire Season 1. 5. The Chaos Ark, well "Sonic. Adv. 1 Ark", maybe too short, but the reason I didnt liked Season 2, except for the Shadow Ark, was because it was composed only by Filler Arks. REALLY?!!!!🔥🔥, but this was still pretty solid imo. 6. The Emerl Ark, made just to make Cream shine a bit, not bad, but too short. Wow, very emotional😑 (well the finale actually was emotional) 7. The Homebound Ark, made to finish the season as fast as possible. And Chris, U LITTLE PIECE OF SHIT, WHAT DID U DO?!!! 8. The Egg moon Ark, I already said whats wrong with this Ark.

[@PatchySpino]

I know I'm way late to the party but I think you did a fantastic job with this video, you went over pretty much the entirety of the show and I wish this video got more traction. Even though you said this show wasn't worth coming back to in your opinion at this point I feel obligated to watch it myself! If you ever see this comment, do you think you could send me a watch list of what episodes I should watch and which I could skip for the most streamlined experience?

[@finncallan]

I really enjoyed watching this! well done! i’m eager to see more of your stuff

[@trentbuskirk4990]

that dark sonic plot point still infuriated me to this day

[@AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH]

To address your criticism about how the Time stopping plot makes no sense, in Episode 39 Eggman claims "If Enough people from our world start showing up there will be friction" so the show is saying that too many people from Sonic's world will cause a problem. It explains why Chris decided to go alone in Season 3 and why it was Fine for Chris to be there in the first place in Season 3, at first it wasn't a problem in the first two seasons because not too many had been showing up from Sonic's world but once it started happening more and more that was when problems arose... but yes Shadow looking like Sonic in Sonic X did make no sense, not much they could've done to get around that though, they couldn't really change his design.

[@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376]

AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Or GUN lied and used Sonic as a scapegoat to cover up their crimes.

[@manolgeorgiev9664]

I watched this show as a kid. The only thing I remember is episode 19's nightmare fuel. It haunted my dreams.

[@Schnort]

I remember skipping it because the first part was too boring and embarrassing for me. I had no idea what happened.

[@Skyrura]

I’m guessing you forgot about the fact that Shadow just straight up Chaos Controlled back to the Blue Typhoon after being launched into space, kinda just thought of it since you kept saying Tails “beat” Shadow in that instance when he definitely did not. Shadow only stopped trying to kill Cosmo after the her being revealed as a spy became known.

[@lamiamekni2802]

So Sonic had a good characterization in the anime, I don't know why Robbie Walker thinks that Sonic is a jerk in this anime

[@maryafantalia4357]

This guy understood nothing to Sonic's character.

[@ViperousVT]

Dude love your review honestly I felt like this as a kid how the humans are so dumb through out the series 😆 🤣

[@triledink]

I grew up watching sonic X on jetix as a kid and the episodes I remembered the most were mostly the around the first 10 or so. After rewatching it I remember so much about the show. Reminds me when sonic x came up I always watched through an episode.

[@alphadragonwolfwarrior6373]

As someone who watched the entirety of your "Everything Wrong With Sonic X" video series since the first two episodes came out, I was very disappointed to find out that due to copyright, they can no longer be viewed. For me, the series was a nice parody of the Everything Wrong With.. type videos and was very hilariously enjoyable to watch.

[@AleTitan]

15:41 28:35 31:00 amongus 1:10:35

[@thestockimagequeen]

I’m excited to watch this video! I’m a few minutes in however and I will NOT take any Party Hardly (episode 7) slander. Love that episode. Also sue me but I like episode 18 haha. Yeah it’s flawed but I like how it develops Tails and Chris’s relationship and for that reason I’m biased towards it lol Edit: I think a lot of people blow out of proportion how bad Sonic X is. Sure it’s not very good objectively, but people treat it like it’s the worst thing ever like…y’all if Sonic X is the worst thing you’ve ever seen you need to watch more TV lmao. I appreciate it for what it is but it’s definitely FAR from perfect.

[@sourlab]

This is one of my favourite videos on the internet

[@MoisterChife]

A mess. But a kinda fun one

[@lelandatkinson5740]

Here’s an idea about the whole “both Earth and Mobius existed as one” argument could work out. All of the landmarks that are now on Mobius were originally on the combined planet and humans/Mobians lived together. The Chaos Emeralds potentially altered the planet to such a degree that all of the “fantastical elements” (Chao, Mobians, Angel Island, Mystic Ruins, etc.) were transported to another planet parallel to Earth (that being Mobius). Gerald could have been creating Shadow before this change happened and kept all the data on Mobians he had while creating him. Hence, Shadow still looks like a Mobian hedgehog on normal Earth. This is just an idea. No clue how Eggman got to Mobius.

[@NukaKawai]

so the planet was split in 2 and eggman accidentally got there cus, idk he probably walked into a particle accellerator? cool

[@lelandatkinson5740]

Or… what if Gerald sent a young Eggman to Mobius to study how the planet differed from Earth? This causes Eggman to grow up to be an evil scientist on Mobius and everything to kick off between him, Sonic, and the others.

[@Schnort]

This show just shoves bullshit down your throat and you just have to get used to it. You are numbed to how outlandish the plot is until you consider it in retrospect.

[@maryafantalia4357]

That sounds like a hater comment.

[@Sergeantmajormario]

I did say this in the Top and Bottom 5 video, but with Episode 50, if they had to leave Sonic behind for some kind of tension, I would've been fine if it happened, but Eggman was the reason I mean he gave Sonic the chip the machine needed, so why not have it programmed to deactivate to leave Sonic behind?

[@SpiritProductions99]

Holy crap around cosmo and 68 caused me to tear up

[@vadim_65rus]

Simp has to pay money. If he doesn't pay money, he isn't "a textbook definition of a simp"

[@locodesert2]

29:34 this is the last thing i expected to hear in a video reviewing the entire sonic x anime.

[@jskywalker58]

its a mess but its a fun mess

[@Celestial_Wing]

one of the biggest mistakes they made was making Earth and Sonic's world separate when in the games you can clearly see they're one and the same. So why?

[@fightingmedialounge519]

Pretty much for the same reason the games made them separate worlds for nearly a decadr.

[@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376]

​@@fightingmedialounge519 I never liked the two worlds idea should've made their worlds the same in Sonic X that way Sonic and Chris won't be separated forever.

[@fightingmedialounge519]

@@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376 you would have to basically come up with a diffrent plot if that was the case.

[@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376]

@@fightingmedialounge519 I read about this idea in a Sonic X fanfiction story by the way

[@maryafantalia4357]

That's not a mistake. It makes more sense to explain why Sonic and friends are with humans instead of just bringing them in the human world just like that as in games. And sorry but Sonic and friends have strictly nothing to do with ordinary humans and that's perfectly logical to call them aliens.

[@Rei-bg3rf]

Achieving the speed of light makes no sense considering in order to do that Sonic must have zero mass 😭

[@Pierrue]

30:22 I could be wrong but it might have happened this way so that kids watching the show didn't start disrespecting authority by trying to copy Sonic. I know this was the case in many old shows for kids.

[@ajflink]

I feel like game Sonic and the Sonic X would definitely be screaming at each other for the other's decisions.

[@maryafantalia4357]

They're kinda the same person so I don't think so.

[@terencebc]

It's a mess for sure, but for Sonic show standards, it's a good watch, especially since the few good parts of it is arguably the best Sonic content in term of plot.

[@AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH]

Oh yes, I love Sonic X so much... but only the Sub, the Dub can go fuck off

[@micjimster4845]

Yep compered to the other shows its in the top 3 alongside boom and the adventures of

[@maryafantalia4357]

Well, Sonic X, in its bests parts, joins Frontiers, Dream Team, Black Knight, Secret Rings, Unleashed, 06, Heroes and Shadow, Riders games (except the 3rd game), in terms of best Sonic plots.

[@CharlieONE111]

5:19 True that

[@DeltaBlazin]

More people need to see the Japanese dub of this show, it's fucking amazing.

[@the1whoplayz]

1:27:52 huhh???? Did you actually watch the show? He states that he knew she was on board, but didn't feel like doing anything about it

[@MrZacdeath]

lot of little things that he gets wrong makes me think he skipped around

[@drakeandfriends3718]

1 problem with what you've said during the Shadow arc The Chaos Emeralds don't belong to Sonic and company At no point in the story is such stated Sure this doesn't change how they still need to the Chaos Emeralds to get home, invalidating that point Along with the fact that the Humans did turn on sonic to quickly (though sonic adventure 2 did the same thing) But I believe it is worth mentioning that the Emeralds aren't Sonics

[@TechBlade9000]

I think he means they belong to Sonic as in "They're from their planet"

[@ajaxmaxbitch]

​@shadowhulk456that's sonic frontiers tho

[@tuangaming4910]

@shadowhulk456 Sonic X is not even canon

[@busterwolf8901]

43:00 heard that out of context had to get up out of my seat......WHAT

[@17jacoyne]

I would still rather watch this over sonic underground any day!

[@waypastcute]

50:20 Bold of you to assume a Japanese show airing before a 2:00 AM timeslot would confirm anyone's part of the LGBTQ+ community. Besides, the UK Sonic comics already have bisexual Amy, so it wouldn't be without precedent! EDIT: Oops, I perpetuated that myth regarding Japanese broadcasting standards and practices in regards to LGBTQA+ content. I dunno what they were like in the early 2000s, so please ignore my misinformation, I am a dummy.

[@waypastcute]

...gods, I love the lesbian Sonic characters. Shout-out to Nicole, Tangle, and Whisper.

[@maryafantalia4357]

​@@waypastcuteThe "lesbian" word comes from nowhere, sorry.

[@waypastcute]

@@maryafantalia4357 No, it comes from the Greek island of Lesbos! Denizens of Lesbos are known as "Lesbians", the most famous of which is probably the ancient Greek poet Sappho. While most of her poems only survive as fragments, most of them are about how down bad she is for various women or her interactions with her female partners/lovers. Because of Sappho, the word "lesbian" was adopted by female-identifying people who felt sexual and/or romantic attraction towards other female-identifying people as a label, or something like that. There's probably some papers out there that can explain it better than I can. Tangle the Lemur, Whisper the Wolf, and Nicole the Holo-Lynx are Sonic characters that have either been confirmed to be lesbians or have only expressed attraction towards women and are heavily lesbian-coded, due to SEGA allegedly not wanting to have any Sonic characters in romantic relationships right now. I can't remember if Tekno the Platypus is a lesbian or bi... Anyways! That's a quick-and-dirty summary of the origins of the word "lesbian" and how it applies to the Sonic franchise.

[@maryafantalia4357]

@@waypastcute Yeah... thanks for the cultural instant.

[@waypastcute]

@@maryafantalia4357 You're very welcome! My wife's a huge Sappho fan, so I know a little about the subject through her.

[@uzer141]

Great video!

[@kyle7056]

What a fantastic video! The best Sonic one I've ever watched. Brought me a lot of nostalgia too 😂😂

[@behnamhassanpoor6793]

And also manga when is your next video of reviewing archie sonic comic issues with dillin is gonna come out?

[@magnanereseres5048]

I have a question, you said you were going to let the "everything wrong with sonic x" there, why are they know in private? these videos about the arcs are good but I want to see again those videos

[@HammySigvard]

He’s not proud of this series so that’s why he put it on private

[@HammySigvard]

It's better to have a well constructed video of 2 hours about the anime than taking an existing concept to criticizes everything wrong with in 9 hours. (Also why a reupload? Copyright problems?)

[@spiderzilla7o7]

it’s an anime watching an anime, Loopy. 😵‍💫

[@riyocko]

This show is like the sonic archie comics of the TV world. it's just not worth it LOL

[@maryafantalia4357]

You compare Sonic X to Archie Comics? You're serious? Archie Comics is literally its own delusion while Sonic X is faithful to the real universe of games! And yes, it's worth it, because yeah, its best parts are really good.

[@riyocko]

@maryafantalia8614 "faithful to the real universe"? Vaguely, but not always. It branches off into its own tangents to. When I compared them, I meant in the sense that sitting down and indulging in them feels like a daunting, unappealing task. Sonic X is hard to sit through, just as Archie. They both have their highs and lows, but again: not really worth it in the end.

[@maryafantalia4357]

@@riyocko Sorry but it is not VAGUELY faithful. Characters are respected, many games are adapted, and we have a last epic story recovering the importance of the nature Sonic searchs to protect since that is one of his biggest pillars in the franchise. And no, not in the end precisely. Sonic X has many moments that deserve to be seen and congratulated, and that's in its last episodes we notice it precisely.

[@riyocko]

@@maryafantalia4357 See, but you could say the same thing about Sonic Archie in the sense that things CAN be rewarding. It's the matter of "you just gotta sit through the rough bits, trust me it'll get better." I'm not saying Sonic X is ATROCIOUS, or shouldn't have been made, or anything along those lines. Just as reading Archie, watching Sonic X will not give you any NEW information about the canon world of Sonic, at least when following the games. You can still enjoy Sonic X and its writing - same as such with Archie. All I'm saying, is that personally, I don't think it's worth it. It's a matter of opinion. Archie has strong moments. Sonic X has strong moments. But it's much easier to see it in a critical lens when there's not a layer of nostalgia that you're looking through it with.

[@maryafantalia4357]

@@riyocko Sonic X gives an information about who and how characters are, with some backstory elements like Knuckles' role of Master Emerald's guardian. Plus, why a non-canon series should give new information about the canon world? You complain for something pointless that isn't even supposed to happen. Why always finishing by "just a matter of opinion" when you just started the problem by criticizing? Everyone says a rude critic then try to save themselves by saying "just an opinion" seconds later. It would be time to admit you're wrong instead of just trying to escape the fact you should never have been rude.

[@BlueNinja-pw1yt]

1:10:12 how dare you call season 3 trash the metarex saga was incredible

[@maryafantalia4357]

This guy understands nothing to Sonic anyway. There are many guys in the Sonic community who like to take the best parts of Sonic to call them the "worst" ones.

[@Michael_Afton40]

It beats My Hero Academia in my opinion

[@ThatGreenMach1ne]

Today I will watch this video on an anime that I will never watch

[@maryafantalia4357]

You miss something.

[@SuperBlackwing]

Let's all hope that Sonic Prime will be better than whatever this mess of a show was

[@maryafantalia4357]

Absurd.

[@Mirthful_Panda]

24:28 well to be honest this kind of happened in the game too😂

[@RaphielShiraha64]

I'm so confused, did he knew or not knew that emerl is from sonic battle.

[@LuciansAnimations]

Oh crap I am crying again 😢

[@Euro.Patriot]

I will not tolerate Sonic X slander.

[@clairehislop5873]

Thought this show was ok but couldn't STAND chris, dunno what it was but he just annoyed me so much

[@Oneforus21111]

He was fine in Series 2 Metarex

[@davidgun07]

i like the Japanese version

[@spinosuchusdude7302]

The only think what I like about the show is sonic and his freinds all the human characters are annoying like they want to get involved with everything like try to take the chaos emeralds they don’t belong to the the human characters they belong to sonic

[@maryafantalia4357]

True!

[@alyviabautista5996]

The 4Kids dub destroying the Soldier explaining Maria's death gets a passing mention but nothing on how they equally destroyed Molly and Cosmo's deaths? Fun Fact: The Metrix Saga only existed because of how popular the series became in America with the dub. The season was made for America which makes the fact that 4kids still kidified it kinda even more shitty. I mean, I kinda get it, the Arc was very dark, but it sucks all that work, and animation and writing was put into by the original developers only for it to be neutered when sent over to the audience that gave the series a final season, really suck. the Anime was just "meh" in popularity in Japan. So much so that the original Japanese version of the season is just now being properly aired in Japan. I grew up with the 4kids Dub so I have a soft spot for it, purely because of nostalgia, but I REALLY wish the show would get a Redub, with accurate translations and no dumbing down and editing deaths and innuendos.

[@t59112]

Actually the season was made for International Market. Not just America. France premiered Season 3 first with had uncensored scenes and retained original music. The Japanese version for S3 was made through Chinese VCDs and streaming services until the TV airing in 2020.

[@alyviabautista5996]

@@t59112 ah, thank you for the correction.

[@adcgdsin9320]

I know that 4Kids messed up some of the story of Sonic X (thanks to 4Kids being a derivative of FOX Corporation; yes _that_ FOX), but I still commend the English voice actors for working with what they had. I’m very certain that they would have voice acted the full, uncut version of Sonic X if they had the chance back then.

[@noone-mo6gy]

Still better then ANYTHING Dillin Thomas ever made.

[@angelvillegas9604]

This is a good show alot of haters out there

[@maryafantalia4357]

True!

[@DragonStar524]

The Japanese version is peak. The dialogue of the English Dub dragged it down for me.

[@gdassspar6nar]

Every version has one gigantic minus.Tha animation was just horrendous,why does it looks so cheap.

[@MusuemBucket]

@@gdassspar6narespecially the moon

[@DaveMan1K]

50:18 Don't give them ideas.

[@supermariojonathan7466]

wait a minute. freedom fighters in sonic X? doesn't that name freedom fighters sound famillier like sonic sat am?