Sonic Xtreme Metal Sonic Boss Real Hardware

[@DefNotEryk]

Fun fact: The music was actually going to be for the Nack the Weasel (a.k.a. Fang the Sniper) boss fight, one of only two boss fights planned for the game, the other one being metal sonic. Unfortunately, the boss fight/level is lost but hopefully still exists somewhere...

[@Moonlow.]

it does and theres many more of the same rom used in diffirent places like e3

[@AKablalik]

This is only a re-creation of the Metel Sonic bossfight, the actual build is seemingly still lost.😞

[@Fleetish]

Mario fandom: releases fake args all the time Sonic fandom: nah bro it's real.

[@andhie7007]

True

[@jimbobiscool1256]

This is surreal to see what could’ve been I’ve wanted to see a sonics equivalent of super Mario 64 on the saturn

[@playnalisis]

Looks way better than Mario.

[@theconnorthatusedtoreactto6283]

​@@playnalisis Imma disagree this shit looks terrible

[@gilbert64]

​@@theconnorthatusedtoreactto6283 it's saturn's graphics, you'll get used to it, or maybe not I don't know I only emulate sonic R and Jam

[@tumamaentanquedeguerra]

​​​@@gilbert64 The Saturn had more graphic potential but it was difficult to produce games for, almost nobody outside SEGA/Sonic Team learnt how to program for it well (This Including STI) I think the N64 was more advanced tho (except from the catridge problem)

[@GabrielRodriguez-tg3fy]

Don't forget about Crash Bandicoot 1

[@joeljab6196]

this game looks like it would have been hell to control

[@TailsOfSaturn]

This version by XL2 is pretty good. Sonic both has some momentum but is able to turn easily, making adjustments on the fly easy enough.

[@Superstumpgrinder64]

The environmental polygons run so smooth! As a saturn owner... that's pretty impressive. The quads in 3d environments usually jump around (watch video of tomb raider saturn or panzer dragoon saga to see what I mean).

[@TailsOfSaturn]

Its a VDP2 rotating plane, hence why its perspective correct and has transparency based reflections

[@marialinares4201]

The model of sonic looks so smooth and cool fish-eye lens

[@Darkcloud-Atlatoan]

For the Saturn this would have looked awesome. Also, can I just say how horrifying this somehow looks? Metal has some form of uncanniness going on in this take, and yet I love it.

[@uptowndanram6753]

The story behind this game is fascinating, but it definitely would've gotten its lunch eaten by Super Mario 64 and maybe even Crash Bandicoot in the Fall of '96. Sad that Sonic World (Sonic Jam) and 3D Blast's bonus stages is all we got of polygonal Sonic on the Saturn.

[@TailsOfSaturn]

Yea I think your right. There was somewhat of a disdain of 2D in the 5th gen, maybe in 94/95 this could have gone down well though. Its a shame, with hindsight this is probably more impressive on a technical level than some of the fully 3D iterations of the day. That sprite is very high res with lots of frames of animation, though I certainly think XL2s project here is more impressive than the STI demo from back in the day (although its hard to tell from the limited footage we have). A full game of Sonic World would have put Sonic in the running against Mario and Crash though. I'd love to see a homebrewer do Sonic World style levels focused on exploration and challenges as a means to access the faster paced special stages from Sonic 3D on Saturn.

[@almir-chan9570]

Don't forget Sonic R

[@deckofcards87]

@@TailsOfSaturn Totally agree with you there. 'Sonic World' always looked to be functioning as an over-world zone for a Sonic game that never came to be on Saturn.

[@EOTA564]

My impression is that this game was an experimental gamble which didn’t pay off. No one really knew how to transition Sonic from a 2D to 3D within the technical limitations of the Saturn at the time. I think everyone gets too tied up in the idea that Saturn sonic needed to be a fully realised free roaming 3D platformer. Yes, Mario 64 moved the goal posts but Crash Bandicoot was a 3D platformer plat played very much like a 2D platformer. Games such as Nights and even Pandemonium! showed how 32bit technology could be used to deliver impressive looking titles that still played in a single plane.

[@kiraangle2823]

looks a bit floaty as far as hit detection goes, but that can be ironed out later. looks cool.

[@pw5651]

I wonder what the significance of standing on top of a black glass sky was supposed to be? Kinda strange of a setting.

[@curtdower1330]

If Sega ever release a Saturn Mini, I hope they give us Sonic Xtreme (wishful thinking), like how the SNES Mini had Starfox 2.

[@marialinares4201]

Very unlikly but possible

[@ClassicSonicSatAm]

Impossible since Sonic X-treme wasn't finished or at a final state on Saturn unlike Starfox 2 which was finished, fully playable, only got cancelled cus they wanted to focus on Starfox 64

[@Rishi123456789]

Sega will sadly never give us Sonic X-Treme. Sega has done everything it can to permanently memoryhole Sonic X-Treme because of Sonic X-Treme's infamously troubled production.

[@sithlordmikeyp]

I love the crunchy spinball SF

[@flaviorivero4681]

This looks really awesome!!

[@GabrielRodriguez-tg3fy]

This game was perfect to rival Super Mario 64 and Crash Bandicoot 1

[@SonicXtreme99akaCreeperMario]

dear lord, a giant Metal Sonic would be terrifying Don't mention Mania cuz that was just another form of his I'm talking abt vanilla Metal

[@mark030a]

Alright, you said not to mention Mania...so I'm going to mention Neo Metal Sonic! As well as Metal Overlord just for laughs.

[@oOSonicexeOo]

@@mark030aI’m gonna mention sonic forces because in that boss fight/level he’s huge in his normal form even if it was a fake metal sonic which honestly doesn’t even make sense because unlike shadow metal sonic is still on eggmans side so eggman could’ve easily sent the real one to do things for him without needing the phantom ruby to make a clone plus they decided to copy shadow but not silver or knuckles when they’ve both been rivals/enemies in sonics past aswell.

[@murphmariotwopointoh7714]

"Metal Blade" Mega Man 2 on the Saturn looks weird.

[@waxoyello9085]

This is insanely cool. PD How is the song called?

[@TailsOfSaturn]

The Song is called Lost Boss and is from the Sonic Xtreme soundtrack.

[@goddessmodel]

look its speed highway

[@intermediatewindowsuser]

so it means that this game was almost complete even though it had a unfinished boss fight???2?2?2?2?

[@TailsOfSaturn]

Hi. No, this isn't the original in any way. Its a modern reconstruction of the Sonic Xtreme Boss fight built from the ground up by XL2, a Saturn homebrew dev.

[@intermediatewindowsuser]

@@TailsOfSaturn oh ok

[@SpicyPunkRockerOfficial]

Feels like a fever dream lol

[@playnalisis]

Impressive stuff

[@the_madnessguestd7420]

PEOPLE SAID SCREW IT LETS MAKE IT HAPPEN LOL-

[@entertainmentwizard2703]

Amazing!

[@joseguillen3340]

I beg you for the iso

[@TailsOfSaturn]

sonicfangameshq.com/forums/showcase/sonic-z-treme-metal-sonic.851/

[@Hugoisbuff]

Metal sonic scares me here

[@gameingretro881]

wait so your playing this on a sega satun?!!

[@TailsOfSaturn]

Yes

[@gameingretro881]

@@TailsOfSaturn *gaps*

[@pw5651]

Is that a chaos emerald in the middle?

[@TailsOfSaturn]

Its used to shoot sonic into the air so you can hit the boss when he goes higher

[@PartyDude_19]

It's sad to see what almost was.

[@rj6145]

Yes

[@Legomacgamer]

Hello! May I use this footage for a project of mine?

[@TailsOfSaturn]

Sure no problem. If you publish I would appreciate a ref in the credits for the original recording and XL2 definitely deserves a shutout. XL2: kzbin.info

[@Legomacgamer]

@@TailsOfSaturn I will make sure to credit both of you. Thank you!

[@barneyjuniorYT]

I want to play this game

[@TailsOfSaturn]

you can, download link in the description :)

[@clocky4209]

I cant get the music to play on my emulator...

[@AyaneOfDeath]

The creepiest Metal Sonic

[@someoneonyoutube6843]

I’m surprised that’s sonic is so fast

[@animeist72]

Naka really should have let them use the engine what was the harm honestly besides pride.

[@TailsOfSaturn]

Totally agreed, or even better, just have Naka and Sonic Team oversea a Saturn Sonic, then we could have had the full game of Sonic World (I believe it was Styled as Sonic RPG before becoming Sonic Adventure on the DC)

[@CornishCreamtea07]

While I agree with what you are saying, the Boss Engine(the one in the video) was very good. If they hadn't been split into team two with two engines, the other one being made on PC then being ported to Saturn, they could have made a technically solid game.

[@djberryhardkore]

dude if you made the full game...$$$$ will come your way including from me

[@TailsOfSaturn]

It's not my work. Check out XL2, who created this game/demo. XL2s work in the Saturn homebrew scene is amazing. There's a Patreon as well. kzbin.infofeatured

[@Jiiveszs]

sega wouldnt allow others to make money off of their ip. also this isnt their work they are just sharing it

[@dreamsthatgotogether7553]

As I look at and listen to this, I can’t help wondering what they were thinking

[@Narbacat]

HOW!?

[@TailsOfSaturn]

Courtesy of XL2. Check out his channel - kzbin.infofeatured

[@thehumbleone1983]

Amazing 👍

[@Swifty_Shifty]

Pog

[@Semy_04]

What the game could have been...

[@nicholasadams7548]

Love the reflection on the ground

[@deaalegnnida8715]

Hi

[@professorb3843]

Sega Japan was on point when they disagreed...the game was so damn terrible..like how Sega America even thought of releasing this crap..levels, gameplay...everything is awful and depreasing..

[@Rishi123456789]

I completely agree with you. Fuck Sonic X-Treme, Based Sega of Japan was right to support the cancellation of that low-effort garbage game from Sega of America.

[@KorseuxGD]

I would have liked to see this game and not that shitty Sonic 3D Blast.