Sonix's INSANE Edgeguards on Sparg0! - GOML Tournament Analysis

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Baselard

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11 ай бұрын

GOML was full of upsets and exciting matches, and the grand finals was no different. So today we're gonna dive into how Sonix won GOML. Spoilers I guess.
Watch the set here:
www.twitch.tv/videos/18795979...
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@adamquenano8563
@adamquenano8563 11 ай бұрын
This was just a result of when hard work pays off
@yurr1ka
@yurr1ka 11 ай бұрын
one stock ahead you know the vibes
@Zoranaz_
@Zoranaz_ 11 ай бұрын
This grand finals match shows how well sonix studied the mu against Aegis. He is indeed a top 5 player no doubt. Spargo had a nice losers run with both cloud and aegis. The vod review on these matches shows how careful you have to be when offstage. You could also factor in that Spargo may have been panicking in these situations but a lot of aegis players do the same. Loved this vod review and i can’t wait to see more.
@BaselardFE
@BaselardFE 11 ай бұрын
Oh yeah some of these are 100% Sparg0 panicking, but again, everybody does this myself included lol.
@CineTurbo32X
@CineTurbo32X 11 ай бұрын
With this being imo, Sonic's hardest matchup, this really showed some of the weaknesses that Aegis has against Sonic. It's tough, but it's still doable as him.
@darklight1171
@darklight1171 11 ай бұрын
And people call sonix brainless this was a good set but sonix just was just to fast this time
@BaselardFE
@BaselardFE 11 ай бұрын
Sonix got the biggest brain fr
@darklight1171
@darklight1171 11 ай бұрын
@@BaselardFE fr
@illford6921
@illford6921 11 ай бұрын
From the way Sonix described his playstyle the more he knows who he's fighting the less he camps. Before he didn't know Aegis as well most likely so he tried to be defensive but bro deffo grinded it
@darklight1171
@darklight1171 11 ай бұрын
@@illford6921 yeah it's super noticable when you actually pay attention to his fights the more his fought them the more aggressive he is and if you have a bad recovery oh your not getting a chance to breath
@BaselardFE
@BaselardFE 11 ай бұрын
@@illford6921 That's really interesting and makes a ton of sense in hindsight
@Alibaba-id1cs
@Alibaba-id1cs 11 ай бұрын
While Sonic has very punishing ways to force an edgeguard in his favor, which is crazy, but the ways he got it was mostly because Aegis isn’t as safe on shield and it shows how Mythra while very good in neutral, really can’t just mash on your shield for free which was amazing
@federicomancini2705
@federicomancini2705 11 ай бұрын
This friday got my Aegis amiibos I'm so glad!
@Lariat._
@Lariat._ 11 ай бұрын
This was a classic case of Coinbox Finals being played so often among these two players. Even in pointing out these mistakes, consider that these two have grinded for a long while. The decisions made on both ends were more than likely smart given games 1 and 2 respectively. But at the end of the day, there's only so much you can react to given how reactionary these two players are. Sonix had the upper hand here because he played better neutral and advantage overall which made me realize that disadvantage is much scarier when the % lead climbs as an Aegis player. Offstage, I'd be scared shitless trying so many different ways to recover back on stage even if my options outnumber Sonic's edgeguard attempts.
@problemsnearyou8899
@problemsnearyou8899 11 ай бұрын
That’s why the video is talking bout the actual MU . Since they both know what to do, it’s up to the player to take advantage of the opponent’s weaknesses
@lokks2130
@lokks2130 11 ай бұрын
Offstage is the only "flaw" I feel aegis has as a character. She's like.. probably the best onstage? But it's that area the aegis players seem to struggle with most. And I'm just like.. Yeah it's an issue, but is it really that much? Sonix and ofc the character are great at edgeguarding in general, but when I see Cosmos or Leo it's just like "dude you're panicking so hard.." yeah you _are_ likely going to get edgeguarded a few times playing this character. But that's all the more reason why you shouldn't panic. Not offstage, not on ledge, it's just the one place you have to be ice cold in. Min min and fox players can do it so why not aegis players? Nice analysis
@Michael_Likes_Food
@Michael_Likes_Food 11 ай бұрын
Hey man! I just wanted to say I love ur channel so much and I love how passionate you are about Pyra and Mythra! I officially started to fully main Aegis like a month ago and your channel has been truly amazing to watch
@BaselardFE
@BaselardFE 11 ай бұрын
Thank you, that really warms my heart
@adamquenano8563
@adamquenano8563 11 ай бұрын
Gee it’s like once people work hard,study matchups and adapt to being adapted to you can beat anyone regardless of fighter pass 2
@Shadrag
@Shadrag 11 ай бұрын
its soo insane to see how early kills sonix is getting with his edgeguards every time. sparg0 is one of the best at recovering with characters that others claim exploitable in that aspect but I never saw someone punish sparg0 like sonix does here
@TheKatoGuy2538
@TheKatoGuy2538 10 ай бұрын
The way sonix edge guards sparg0 is crazy
@TheEmperorGulcasa
@TheEmperorGulcasa 11 ай бұрын
This is one of the downsides to a pocket character in general. Not quite having all their intricacies totally sharp and fresh. Also something that was kind of asking to happen since SoniX got this exact matchup as a counter multiple times now so he either had to adapt or have a count-counter pick. Also one concern I have with just having pocket Aegis is that they are such a known factor for most players and they can get so destroyed if your opponent know how to exploit them and you don't know good counter tech.
@legrandliseurtri7495
@legrandliseurtri7495 11 ай бұрын
Sparg0's Aegis isn't a pocket character, it was his main and is now his only secondary.
@Smoothcarries
@Smoothcarries 11 ай бұрын
Pocket aegis? Mans is literally the 2nd best Aegis in the world behind Shuton lol
@TheEmperorGulcasa
@TheEmperorGulcasa 11 ай бұрын
@@Smoothcarries But he only uses Aegis occasionally in specific matchups now. He's using Cloud like 80% of the time, so his Aegis is still a bit less fresh compared to Shuton, who uses them like 60% of the time.
@Spyder-Marth
@Spyder-Marth 11 ай бұрын
Aegis is sooo exploitable offstage. I was trying to explain why going Aegis was a bad idea since Sonix has been grinding the MU and he is a master at edge-guarding, but it was too late. 😔. I think if Sparg0 mained Aegis and didn't use the girls as a pocket pick, It'd be way different. I don't think Aegis should be a pocket character. Like, every time she is one the players get beat badly when they whip her out. The reason why many Aegis players (and players in general) lose is because they don't warm up their characters prior to a big set. I know this from personal experience. Nearly made top 3 at a tournament but I decided to play Corrin because "winning MU" despite not warming him up prior and I got bodied.
@BaselardFE
@BaselardFE 11 ай бұрын
people may have to reconsider this MU after this lol
@TheEmperorGulcasa
@TheEmperorGulcasa 11 ай бұрын
Part of the problem is that, as Leo and Cosmos said, it's quite stressful to main Aegis due to their extremely exploitable recovery. I think Shuton's approach of more heavily co maining is kind of the best solution. His Aegis isn't rusty because he uses them a lot (if not more than olimar now), but he's got another character that's totally different in his pocket. If someone has his Aeigis down, they could get caught off by olimar or vice versa. Which is also part of like Leo's problem since all his characters are swordies who kind of do vaguely similar things, wanting to space with range and such.
@Spyder-Marth
@Spyder-Marth 11 ай бұрын
@@TheEmperorGulcasa This is true. I think Leo's Joker is different enough to mix up opponents. He has to keep him, Byleth, and Corrin (for Sonic). Other than that, he shouldn't be touching anyone else for comp play. I don't know why he wants to stretch himself so thin and play so many characters at once.
@silverpotato4272
@silverpotato4272 11 ай бұрын
Sparg0 goes Aegis against Sonix in coinbox and it usually works out for him, but Sonix was just playing too hot this time
@legrandliseurtri7495
@legrandliseurtri7495 11 ай бұрын
Sparg0 did warm up the Aegis. He used her for Zomba and Atreus.
@ThatOneScienceGuy
@ThatOneScienceGuy 11 ай бұрын
Sonix made light work of Sparg0's Pyra/Mythra. I wonder if his Cloud would have done any better.
@Eggss_B
@Eggss_B 11 ай бұрын
Aegis' recovery is just too exploitable. Nobody really wants to play them at top level besides Shuton. They're kinda inconsistent, and everyone knows the matchup. Don't know why people think they're top 5 at this point.
@RadzHexz
@RadzHexz 11 ай бұрын
Cuz literally everything else in the character is pretty great
@Eggss_B
@Eggss_B 11 ай бұрын
@@RadzHexz while their kit is reallyyyy good, it's not extraordinarily broken. Aegis actually has to play fundies. They're not allowed to make many mistakes because of how exploitable they are offstage. They're similar to Wolf & Palu, just a better version of those characters.
@sweatybabypowderhands843
@sweatybabypowderhands843 11 ай бұрын
I love watching Sonix matches broken down. I actually used to really not like watching Sonix but now I’m cheering hard for him because he genuinely impresses me on how much he can destroy my favorite players (rip mkleo 😅)
@BaselardFE
@BaselardFE 11 ай бұрын
Sonix is criminally good at this game lol
@zate5355
@zate5355 11 ай бұрын
Early ray of punishment is such a good route. Great for catching people who are greedy for the edgeguard.
@BaselardFE
@BaselardFE 11 ай бұрын
precisely :D
@iv8344
@iv8344 10 ай бұрын
Nice video but just saying there were many situations sonix used spin charge not spin dash lol
@BaselardFE
@BaselardFE 10 ай бұрын
No worries I can't see the difference sometimes
@igotthemunchies7292
@igotthemunchies7292 11 ай бұрын
Pyrtha fallin off
@tensivecentaur5036
@tensivecentaur5036 11 ай бұрын
Nothing went wrong its just sonic
@darkwalkervisiondominguez1691
@darkwalkervisiondominguez1691 11 ай бұрын
Now mexican call sakuray please nerf sonic
@NoobGamer.65
@NoobGamer.65 11 ай бұрын
Pues perdió y ya, mejor la de chambear no se la saben? en vez de analizar como si fuese la cura de una enfermedad
@estebangamer636yt2
@estebangamer636yt2 11 ай бұрын
Sí, es cierto que Sparg0 perdió. Sin embargo, la razón del análisis es para poder ver en qué cosas falló y qué otras Sonix explotó. Todo forma parte del desarrollo del matchup.
@JorgeMorales-xv6qx
@JorgeMorales-xv6qx 11 ай бұрын
A 5 yea old can edguard aegis … especially with sonic . Y’all making it sound like he created edgeguarding
@MidianVGC
@MidianVGC 11 ай бұрын
I personally dont trust Aegis. Too unreliable. It's a shame because on stage Mythra is the most dominant character. Actually, I think nobody should ever use a character with exploitable recovery against Sonix, he's too good and will 100% exploit it. Unfortunately, both of Spargo's characters have this massive flaw. If you're gonna have a secondary character, it should be something that covers for your worst matchups. Even Leo is feeling the sting now after letting his Joker get rusted to only play swordies.
@Kizunoto
@Kizunoto 11 ай бұрын
Sparg0 is so good with swordies, but his characters have awful recovery
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