Sony a6400 4k Mirrorless vs RED Digital Cinema Camera

[@chesareg8217]

The a6400 with color grading just, just blew my mind off, the results Sony can achieve with such a tiny camera is just out of this world.

[@vinyl.croatia]

I was asking why is quality of video so poor on both cameras. In the end of the video I realised I was watching in 360p

[@SimarjitSingh]

It's easy to know which one is the RED because it always has that greenish look to it

[@EverythingFilmmaking]

Simarjit Singh that green looks nasty

[@bobsimpson9228]

Could always change the tint to the other side a bit

[@tomdchi12]

Particularly in skin tones, where you really, really don't want a greenish tint!

[@AshLordCurry]

the skins doesn't looks green, it looks more natural, plus RED's footage are meant to be color graded,

[@dxkaiyuan4177]

Yeah honestly i don't like that green tint

[@hughwizzy]

I’m clearly clueless. Thought the one on the left was preferable. Great video.

[@konkor9940]

same :P

[@curtisbme]

100%. In this youtube video (with all the caveats that entails) the sharpness and the color is much better with the a6400 video. Not sure why he didn't do more subjective color correction to remove the unnatural green haze on the Red image. Softness and unnatural color is certainly a common choice for movie production but not good for youtube comparison showing real world images that we expect to look real and be sharp.

[@truthseeker6804]

@@curtisbme exactly. i remember when i watched this video a year ago i also prefered the a6400. when you get more into cameras you begin to like unnatural color, because there's more "details" in the highlight and shadows. most people would prefer the a6400 in this video. but camera geeks would prefer the RED camera.

[@galaxytraveler5779]

Because of the overall clarity. The Red is smoother and not quite as 'bright', but far more accurate colors and lighting.

[@TheBamcast]

Same lol

[@thirtyfivemillimeters3569]

Whenever a new camera comes out I'm always waiting for gene's comparison with the red. He's 100% going to make one with the blackmagic pocket cinema camera 6k😂

[@PotatoJet]

Absolutely!

[@JLSTibu]

@@PotatoJet I'm really waiting to see that. It's definitely going to be gory...

[@Rek-55]

I guessed )

[@CameraDev]

Potato Jet Do you happen to be giving away a Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4k any time soon? Hmmm...?

[@tausifraza6910]

@@PotatoJet Hi, I got a 6400. How can I build the Cinema JETPACK LUT? Can you give me the entire setting? Thanks

[@alfonsonation]

No lie, I've had the a6400 for almost a month and I am beyond impressed with the quality! This thing is absolutely PERFECT for KZbinrs. Only downside in my opinion is the weak battery life. But with the ability to use the camera while plugged in and with some extra batteries, not even noticeable. Also the lack of IBIS is not even as big a deal as most people are making it out to be. LOVE this camera. Nice video!

[@justTomYT]

honestly i liked the a6400 in some situation more than the red. its a bad feeling but its true xD

[@jmackultra]

just Tom you're not alone

[@AllanGildea]

So did I and I was directing a pro shoot today with a red!

[@Newtperc]

Me too! Wild!

[@vladimirtomin8223]

That's because you see a lot of screens everyday around you and in a way it forms your taste, because due to lower power consumption human brain likes what it's already familiar with. Since 6400 picture is basically a cellphone picture, it will appeal to wide audience nowadays. Nothing wrong with it. Blackmagic also went this road in Pocket 4K, it's more like GH5 now picture-wise, rather than movie-like like original Pocket Camera or Production camera from Blackmagic. I for one love Fujifilm X-T30 with old Soviet lenses because it's an anti-cellphone picture Color-wise, but my taste in matter is in minority crowd for sure.

[@John69420]

@@vladimirtomin8223 bruh "cellphone picture"... What are you on about😂

[@EposVox]

Left Sony, Right RED. The colors had it fairly obvious (green-ish) at first, but the lighting really made it clear

[@Jonyiii]

yep

[@TommyCallaway]

Solid comparison as always bro! For me, with all these awesome cameras, I've found that I need to work on my story telling more than anything. The camera is becoming inconsequential for basic online content, but when you're spending a ton of cash on a shot or explosions, being able to push color or half a stop of DR makes sense in the pro world.

[@MayankBadhan]

Toyota Vs Ferrari

[@Atheefff]

Toyota supra*

[@akaseahorse]

​@@Atheefff yes 😳😳😳😳

[@vishnuprasad7574]

your color grading always givesaway which one is red always more greenish than other camera

[@noahsduck4109]

Hmm I would say it always has a yellowish tint too

[@RealSebus]

so true!

[@BBSHOCKZ]

I agree haha

[@ltnlng]

Yeah, it always makes me feel like I have cataracts and I hate it.

[@seanc.5310]

I can always tell Red and ARRI from the softer image. The smaller cameras definately do more sharpening

[@HolaMundoDev]

I could identify the camera instantly on the first shot, however, after luts applied and color corrected I can say that the difference is not a lot under my perspective. You do have to take care about the shots, I don't know a lot about the technical differences between the two but OOTB the sony seems more red and has a synthetic sharpening. The good thing is that this differences can be corrected in post, create a preset and your are mostly done. Thank you for your review, not very informative but you can make your own judgement on the looks.

[@LILUGOINDABUILDING]

you mean, the difference is not a LUT under your perspective.....haha...ha.....

[@AmaraARW]

you could even just lower the sharpening in the profile to get rid of that synthetic sharpening

[@waynelast1685]

99% of people won’t notice a difference so why spend thousands more? I’m sure there must be some reasons.

[@LILUGOINDABUILDING]

@@waynelast1685 well..standards, details, file formats, reliability ecc...by the way i bought a sony a6400 recently with a sigma 30mm f 1.4 lens. I LOVE IT.

[@Ritalie]

@@waynelast1685 People making videos notice it. If you are a film maker, then you won't be able to produce something that looks digitally enhanced, and synthetic. Movie audiences are really so stupid, they don't deserve the level of detail and the cinematic beauty of movies. Thank god that we still have beautiful art. Never ask "why" something should be beautiful. Never take beautiful art for granted. Consider ourselves lucky that beautiful art still exists.

[@bruhmoment7797]

Both are cameras are very iconic, and while one may seem to have the upper hand, they both preformed to such an outstanding degree in regards to quality, and features. Great Video!😀

[@Thejohnventura]

Yes. I’m buying your LUTS! 😳🙌🏽 the footage you took looks like a movie I’d watch over and over

[@mahektailor4542]

Black magic pocket cinema camera 6K is relesed with super 35

[@thisisajaym]

RIP to all other indie video cameras

[@Shundoninja]

Nah I think many indie films will still go for UMP 4.6k. Better dynamic range and better support for larger crews

[@bcbhir]

Every time Panasonic release something blackmagic make it obsolete (hello gh5s). Nobody will buy their overpriced ff cameras now. They should've gone the apsc route like bm.

[@dayspoiler4608]

they're making everyone else look silly at the moment

[@messyfilms6325]

Just need about 100 gigs for like 5 minutes of footage.

[@Purple_Lace]

I''m watching this on a 4k tv.. and i really do prefer the footage from the a6400.. i didn't see that coming!

[@EETSTHECREATOR]

Same 🫣

[@seanc.5310]

Wait I definately got this one... LEFT: -Red Cinema- *A6400* RIGHT: -A6400- *Red Cinema*

[@hirostvjapan]

Just bought a6400 LUT. I was waiting for this. Can't wait to use it.

[@iceeeyN00B]

These “Which camera is which” opening poles aren’t fun for me anymore... Mr. Jet has taught me enough that i always get it right. Also, blah blah blah, green tint.... no ones mentioning highlight roll off. That was the give away right away for me.

[@chiggedycheckyoself]

Thanks for labeling left and right. Probably would have thought the left side was right and vice verse without that. Lifesaver!

[@kforkamera]

Hey potato! I actually learned from your comparison videos about the green tint of cinema cameras. I tried pushing some greens into the shadows of my sony camera and it worked pretty nicely! Thanks for the content as always!

[@ejiroogagah2476]

How did you do this?

[@tash_views]

A6400 after the HLG applied blew my mind trully. It looks almost like proper film.

[@KarlGutowski]

The a6400 has this magenta love thing going, so your LUT turns reds into orange to make skin tones more natural. (See neon sign at 8:09)

[@AngeloDau]

You are right

[@lomarvgc1580]

You kids are soo lucky with the kind of camera you have today, I'm still using my Ricoh xr500 which is a slr and uses film btw

[@Vince1648]

Most have no idea what shooting back in the 35mm film days was. I used to shoot with a Pentax-K, all manual even the focus. Now I have the Sony a6400 which has the best AF to date.

[@lomarvgc1580]

@@Vince1648 btw I NEVER used a slr

[@muddassirkhan8841]

I actually prefer sony a6400 after grading with ur luts💖💖💖

[@mm_99321]

Searched the whole internet for a simple and clear explanation of HLG vs. SLOG, and yet none of everything I watched was as clear and straight to the point as the Potato Jet's video.

[@SparerCheese]

You gotta do the xt-30 vs the a6400 they seem like such perfect competitors

[@Romafedorov]

Man i'm watching you since you had like less than a 1000 subscribers and i always knew you'll grow really fast on this platform. Look at you now at 381K subscribers, really impressive!

[@Zmywak]

Instant purchase! Thanks 4 LUT pack! Thumb UP :)

[@Nonvido]

WOW! With your custom profile and grade it looks amazingly close to the RED!

[@rafael.c_costa]

and we never saw the luts again

[@PaulFeinberg]

Just did a collab with another KZbinr with this camera and the Tamron 17-28mm. Wow that AF tracking is just amazing!

[@milchplus]

Maybe i could tell a difference if you didn’t make a cut to an other scene every millisecond 😛

[@AshvonChamier]

That did make it pretty difficult. I do the same thing in my edits anytime I have a GoPro shot. lol

[@garbygarb31]

lmao I could tell the different in less than a third of a second on the first example.

[@baboonaiih]

Yeah it was hard but you can generally tell a film camera from a pro-sumer camera because the film cameras seem to have less contrast or something which gives you room to color grade later

[@Cinou]

Crazy how close the comparison is getting between these consumer friendly cameras and big cinema cameras.

[@KevinTalbotTV]

I think the sony looked better

[@drawingart8194]

jes 👌🏽👌🏽

[@bvnesta]

me too!!

[@kylemesdag7770]

same!!

[@lanceemry5899]

100% thought the left was the red camera it looked 10/10

it's because the red was badly color graded

[@Voxton]

Just bought the LUT pack, I plan on getting an a6400 as a 2nd cam for wedding shoots. My main cam is an FS5II. The a6400, a7III, and FS5ii all use the same "Venice" color profile. You may want to relabel the LUT pack to Sony Venice LUT pack as it will be great for matching grades between all the new Sony cams with the Venice profiles. Sure I will get a little more contrast on my FS5 but thats something I can tweak after. May increase sales especially when the A7SIII comes out.

[@Moriarty2007]

1. You should use the same lens on both. 2. Use PP6(or S-log) and correc it to green RED cololor profile.

[@kluone]

Yes! Especially the LENS! DOF has a big impact on image perception, lens color rendition based on coatings and quality of optical elements probably has an even bigger impact!

[@ATMTech]

When I first started watched this channel I could never tell the difference but my eye has become more "trained" and now I can tell the cinema camera next the the consumer camera instantly

[@BimalRanabhat007]

looking after the using lust its quite close.... may be after that you said which is red or Sony than i might have selected Sony for red..for the price of screen.

[@RileySerola]

Always look forward to your gear comparison videos. You make them so enjoyable to watch.

[@vteconly]

a6400 SOOC footage looks so much better than the RED. The magenta tint can be dialed down in camera.

[@chosenideahandle]

I've been tweaking my own LUTs for the Sony mirrorless cameras over the last two years, only to have them change the colour on me lol. I can't say I've been inclined to check out anyone else's Sony LUTs until you put these out. Good work! It was very cool seeing an episode of you here with your partner in crime visiting Matti. Your collaborations with him are something I always look forward to. Nice people coming together to do what they enjoy makes for fun watching!

[@JohnEsperancilla]

You already making too much RED comparison videos, that i already know the colors of RED cameras.

[@trekracer20]

Hey, I designed the Gordon Parks banner at 5:35! And also, nice video.

[@YOUAREMYKIN]

You have this unusual cadence when you speak, that is kinda, mesmerizing. I can see you taking over those David Attenborough nature docs! Great videos Gene.

[@Xbot4Life]

Oh no, a man fan

[@Nachos237]

No he sounds like an pretentious douch but I really like his videos he makes it work.

[@J0kuc]

That was so easy. The one one the right just has that movie feel to it for some reason. While the Sony seemed to have a sharper image, it also looks like a home video.

[@totoroutes5389]

Could you make a review-fieldtest of the video-dslr Nikon D7000 ?

[@tombuck]

All cameras are amazing now. We can nitpick little details, but jeez, any camera in 2019 would’ve blown my 12 year old 8mm Handycam-using mind back in ‘99.

[@MurdockCakeLie]

“Hey mom, just so you know I’m bringing my $25,000 camera to the cookout. Yeah, it’s for another KZbin video. Love you too mom, see you soon, bye.”

[@diggydretv]

Dude! Your LUT pack is awesome! I am thinking of grabbing the a6400 so I'm going to have to grab those LUTs too.

[@espro436]

You can always spot this greenish color of red.

[@TechnoBabble]

It's not that the RED is green, the Sony just isn't properly capturing and rendering green in the image, making it too magenta or too blue in certain shots.

[@jozosaravanja1626]

@@TechnoBabble In every comparison red had greenish tint. It's not just sony comparison.

[@TechnoBabble]

@@jozosaravanja1626 Go look at it compared to Arri, RED more yellow and Arri is more red. When you compare cinema cameras to consumer cameras it's almost always the green that gives it away.

[@TimeCodeMechanics]

That first clip gave it away. I wouldn’t have been able to tell if not for that.

[@JiveBedonia]

Why not try the GH5 in its full max settings? C4K 10bit 422 Prores HQ

[@hoangvunguyen9311]

I tried to color graded with my GH5 footage and It looked pretty close to RED camera.

[@KrunoslavStifter]

What you get as advantage with profiles and bit rate, bit depth, you lose on auto focus that can't be used reliably for continues video work and you have much worse low light performance. So its a trade of. If you can control the light and have focus puller, GH5 makes more sense. For youtube run and gun stuff, or simple vlogging a6400 makes perfect sense.

[@hoangvunguyen9311]

Krunoslav Stifter I never use auto focus while filming. Gh5 low light performance is a bit off but still work for me.

[@KrunoslavStifter]

@@hoangvunguyen9311 Sure. In your original post you mentioned GH5 not GH5s, so yes that would be close in low light performance to large sensor camera like APS-C. As for autofocus, yeah if you don't need it that is great. If you are solo operator and doing gimble work, auto focus is indispensable for vlogging or run and gun work where you want shallow depth of field. There is a tool for each job. and today we have more choices than ever and new ones are on the way, so we can't complain much. :) Cheers!

[@froznfire9531]

@@KrunoslavStifter the gh5 also has the amazing ibis which would be key for vlogging for me... the gh5 autofocus actually got much better with latest updates, works fine now not as good as a6400 ofc but still fine. And yeah lowlight isn't good, but there are low aperture lenses or the speedboosters of af doesn't matter, the a6400 also doesn't have great low light

[@aburumaih]

Watching your priceless videos confirms the saying “ it’s never about the type of camera..” so F** EOS R I’m going with the M50 for a starter

[@besttourinrio9]

Great video! Do you have this Luts for the Sony A7 iii? If so would it work for Final Cut Pro X ? Really like your videos bringing friendship atmosphere !

[@AlexMinor]

I've never been a Sony shooter, but I can admit the A6400 has me tempted to try it out.

[@SamSung-nf6tr]

Everything looks good on a phone How about 50" tv

[@chadelosreyes342]

thanks much for the review potato jet. I'm actually getting one tomorrow (08.10.2019). it really help me a lot to decide of getting the sony a6400

[@jiordz]

why there's no link on the red camera?!

[@over2seeyer]

the blown sky gave it away, you can tell the dynamic range has left the room

[@prdisluv]

noone: absolutely NOBODY: Potatoe Jet: RED VS *insert popular camera here*

[@donjreyoung]

I knew which is which because, oddly enough, watching your old videos showed me that these higher-end cameras come off A LOT flatter than the more "budget" cameras.

[@garystackhouse5787]

So, basically, if I take my Sony, defocus it a bit, then slide the whole color pallette to toward green and desaturate it some, I don't need to buy a Red? Good to know.

[@hanscfs]

Kind of. The dynamic range is the main differences. Other than that, we can adjust the a6400 and make it as close as it can to RED.

[@garystackhouse5787]

@@hanscfs That comment was (MOSTLY) tongue-in-cheek. ;-)

[@Tuvzii]

is it just me or is the 6400 way more clear too ?

[@andrewfreeman88]

You could color grade it to look the same..and soften up the image a bit with a Canon lens etc..basically not big difference..

[@preritdotech4281]

I have question, is LUT has to be specific to camera and color profile ???

[@whereyousobbysobsob]

Yes. Because because different camera have different Bayer Filter(leads to different colour science) and different camera brands have different colour or picture profile and hence good LUTS have to be made specifically for a very niche settings.

[@preritdotech4281]

Ryan Thor Thanks Ryan for clarification.

[@DaveThomson]

Find but should compare against a similarly priced camera. Not just pro gear!

[@COSCOSBEATS]

I’m still trynna figure out how Potato Jet got that girl 😅

[@petrudiaconu1565]

Get a sense of humour and a career and it'll do the trick

[@SamLucas26]

I love the way that Red renders green. It just looks so good.

[@jcpatriots19]

I hate reds image quality minthink it's garbage.

[@neezumcaleb3644]

The red footage now looks more like arri when compared to the sony

[@Kaotix_music]

4:39 I keep trying to justify getting maybe a BMPC4k or even go futher and get a Red Komodo to replace my A6400 as im SORTA starting to notice my limitations with it (really when it comes down to only being able to shoot 8-bit), but i honestly dont think im THAT experienced yet where ive hit that point where i feel completely limited to what i get out of my A6400. I did a shoot yesterday out on a boat and I was shooting in SLOG-2 the entire day. My autofocus even with NON sony lenses (used the Tamron 16-70 F2.8) was just spot the heck on. It was so amazing. Ofcouirse I had those shots for creative purposes I needed to go manual focus but when i was in autofocus? It was spot in, super fast, just love Sony auto-focus. Id like to see a video where you see the drawbacks in the autofocus. I WILL ADMIT in a bit LOWER light situations? Yea the autofocus struggles a tiny bit, but i mean a "tiny" bit. Nothing that makes me rage over

[@SamuelSutanto]

"THORONO...." Was my pronounciation correct?

[@TechSpaceCowboy]

Having just bought an A6400 I was more of a fan of the left shot so I’m pretty happy about this lol

[@hansleonhardt7653]

me too.....

[@RicoResolves]

I might not be first, but I'm here regardless 😁👍!

[@IvanUrusov]

Not only the color but also DR also gave it out from the first shots

[@tunglamduong3000]

No one:... Imo-san: *”GO BUY MY LUT”*

[@TaskForceMediaGroup]

I like how you did this, a real Jedi mind trick. I watched the video for the comparison and left wanting to buy your LUT pack. Bravo my friend...Bravo.

[@alexmeier19]

Random comment: what do you think of the film "Free Solo"?

[@sanchez.mg3234]

Great doc I loved it saw it in IMAX

[@NicktaculaPlays]

Gene, you have made a few videos talking about colour profiles and LUT's etc. A video about the best profiles for Sony, Panasonic and Canon would be amazing and I am sure your LUT's will further help can the most out of the footage!

[@capnshankz3303]

If there's RED in the title, I click.

[@DriversSide]

man sonys with HLG look really good! great video!

[@harikishore2514]

$4k camera can do the same of what red can do.. but when you are producing movie with hundreds of millions budget, you don't bother throwing 80k or more at it.. and I don't mind using red for movies cuz they have to keep lot details for edit and for 8k resolution. But I don't get the fukin point in marques and linus using several of red cameras.

[@ifb6368]

Arri cameras are much cheaper and far better for KZbin too.

[@MicheletDiez]

You just made all the Sony haters that love Canon because of their colors, second guess that "sony has crappy colors" statement. When I finally change my 80D to a EOS R, I will surely buy your luts!

[@RealTechnoPanda]

Sony looks way better. Red looks like hot garbage!

[@birkgroven9160]

Lol

[@mattnykamp]

do you know anything about cameras lol

[@houlester]

I haven’t even watched the video yet and I’m already going to say great video. Can’t wait.

[@Jacob_Roberts]

I love your laid back and jovial style.

[@nicolaslabra2225]

Dynamic range and highlight roloff is a super quick giveaway always in these comparisons, then color differentiation, but overall the differences are subtle.

[@travisruskin7133]

Being colourblind makes the comparison videos extra fun 🤔

[@RosskoPeeko]

cant wait to pick up my 6400. im definetly using your LUTs

[@coachjohnlucas7451]

You finally got me to buy a LUT pack. Keep making great content.

[@Jawmsie]

I truly love the takeaway from this video. Anytime we can subvert the classic "your camera doesn't matter" moment, I will be happy.

[@dunnadidit]

It’s super funny how, next to the a6400 with its oversharpening and apparently pink tint, the red looks green and darn near out of focus. If you saw it on its own, you probably wouldn’t think that, but the side by side messes with you.

[@james_studio8065]

Skin tone on red looks jaundice.

[@Kornholeeoo]

Just bought the LUTs. Can't wait to upload them. Thanks. I shoot outdoors at a pistol range and often run into a lot of sunny shots and this should help fix it for me. Thanks! Also subbed too!

[@MichaelKubler-kublermdk]

Oooo, totally up for seeing the Red Gemini vs pretty much EVERYTHING for low light. It'd wipe the floor with a GoPro, but what could compare with it?

[@tomdchi12]

I don't love typical Sony color, but the big tell for Red footage in side-by-side is the slightly greenish tint to skin tones (in addition to the greater dynamic range.) Also, hello Mrs. Potato mom!

[@taufiknobo]

Great now I want to have that red color... not by LUT color the real RED color 😨😨 Just notice that shadow and highlights balance on red is so beautiful

[@agil872]

If you wanna catch cinematic ambiance, there are effects. You can do that, with effects. In my perspective, little one's enough.

[@rollyourown]

As with every project, it's the right tool for the job. Great stuff, as always, Gene! Keep. It. Up.

[@cirkusrydberg-jensen8853]

Am I the only one holding my breath every time the potato is back on the skateboard? Considering pity-buying the LUTs just so you can beef up that insurance.

[@pf4773]

Excellent video because the author showed side by side comparisons between a pro Red camera and the a6400. HOWEVER, what is remarkable is how phenomenal is the cinematic quality of the tiny, inexpensive a6400 compared to the massive and costly Red camera. Sorry but the comparison on my fairly large computer screen between these two cameras showed almost identical video quality! The Sony scientists are remarkable in how they have created near identical quality video to a a professional camera. Amazing!