Sony E 10-18mm F4 OSS Review - The BEST Sony APS-C Ultra Wide Lens

[@StefanMalloch]

The only real choice for the Sony aps-c shooter.

[@prince2thethrone]

would you do review on Zeiss 24mm 1.8 and Zeiss 16-70mm for APS-C?

[@Tusa_Mamba]

Sigma 16mm F1.4 comparison?

[@andrewfreeman88]

There are comparable choices like the Sigma 16mm that are sharper and brighter, but this little guy has more range.

[@NathanElcoate]

@@prince2thethrone I don't know. In AF yes but there needs to be an F2.8 version. I shoot a lot of low light and I really need the 2.8.

[@NathanElcoate]

@@andrewfreeman88 That's no where near as wide.

[@geirjohannesen667]

I’m on my third 10-18. I sold the first one to get the Zeiss Touit 12mm, but found that the AF hunted and it wasn’t that much sharper, so I sold it and got another 10-18. Then I was tempted to go FF and sold number two. Then I went back to APS-C and got my third 10-18. I think I will keep this, unless Sony release a 10-18mm f/2.8 to go with the 16-55mm.

[@andrewfreeman88]

10-18mm f/2.8 would be sweet! and a 70-200mm f2

[@VGScreens]

Oh man, we deserve a faster 10-18 by now - I've kinda been waiting for years, but always find something else to spend my money on rather than compromise on F4. That's the only thing holding me back at the moment, I like night shooting, but I really want an ultra wide. They probably have one already designed but it'd cost like $1600, lol. Meh, maybe I'll just get the current 10-18, that way as soon as I buy it they'll finally realease an updated ultra wide, you can thank me later.

[@NathanElcoate]

@@VGScreens Same here I don't want to spend so much money on an F4. Did you get up getting one? I am also looking at 7Artisans but they are manual lenses.

[@VGScreens]

@@NathanElcoate I ended up picking up an as new Samyang 12mm f2 (manual) for like a 10th of the price of the 10-18, very happy with the performance and price. No stabilization, but for stills makes no difference (I'd rather freeze my subject with a faster lens than try to get OSS to assist with a slow shutter), and manual focus is easy this wide. The 10-18 is still on my radar, but I honestly couldn't justify more than $300-400 for it.

[@NathanElcoate]

@@VGScreens Thankyou very much I just bought a 2nd hand 7Artisans 12mm and will see how that goes. I am used to manual lenses as I had a 14mm Samyang and use vintage lenses so it's not that much of a biggie. If Sony can do a 10-18 F2.8 that would be amazing, but would probably require a bank mortgage to get one lol.

[@R.Hogarth]

This is my "go to lens" to mount on my A6000 for underwater photography. Fun fact: If you put it on a full frame (A7 series) camera and shoot at full frame, you can still use it as approximately 11-16mm zoom without significant vignetting.

[@michaelganey6469]

For my A6600 I bought this and a Sony E 18-200mm and they have proven to be an ideal travel combo. Good enough trumps the weight and cost of professional in my view.

[@MarlonKingShow]

We really need a 12-28 for crop cameras with oss.

[@rubbrdux]

Having decided to stick with Crop Sensor for the foreseeable future, I recently got both the 16-55 and the 70-350mm Sonys. Both are very, very nice apsc zooms. I've owned the Sigma 16mm for about 2 years (wonderfull but limited to 24mm equiv. on full frame) so I'm now considering adding one more lens to fill out the lens lineup. This 10-18 is the one I'm considering. Thanks for the timely review! It looks like a good choice. I should also note that I own the 18-105 Sony f4 (2nd lens I purchased) and have gotten great results from it as well, so the f4 of the 10-18 shouldn't be too limiting and, if needed, I have the 16-55 f2.8 and the Sigma 16 at f1.4 to cover lower light situations. I believe you are correct in saying there isn't an equivalent performance lens out there to the 10-18mm. Again, thanks for the review!

[@StefanMalloch]

Thanks Rick. It won't let you down!

[@erikpallhansen]

I just bought the Sony 16-35mm, 70-350mm, and now the 10-18mm, so you and I have the same idea of a good lens lineup. I travel a lot so the smaller APS-C form factor works great for my hobby shooting.

[@rubbrdux]

@@erikpallhansen I agree. For travel where I don't want to be really obvious with a camera, I've since purchased a slightly used RX100 VA Sony which is really very good and so small that most people don't realize you're shooting or even carrying a camera. Pocket-sized with a 1" sensor , a popup viewfinder and an equivalent 24-70 fairly fast lens, it covers a lot of situations yet is very unobtrusive. I have one further lens goal at some point. That's for the Sony 200-600mm, but that one may be awhile!

[@TVe200]

I own the 10-18. The only alternative when I bought it was Samyang 12 F2.8 MF. Fuji have a 10-24 F4, bigger but more versatile. Sonys is so small I can take it with me and not regret even if I seldom use it.

[@kyriakosaronis5206]

Samyang f2, not f2.8

[@gamerguy655]

A must have lens.

[@Productions-fe8hr]

Thanks for the review! I’ve been looking at one of these for some real estate work.

[@oliversteiner6389]

It's a gem and a fun lens. It'd be nice to see a F2.8 G-version to complete the recent 16-55 mm and 70-350 mm lenses, though. Or an even wider lens like an 8-16 mm..

[@frankfeng2701]

It covers FF image circle from 12mm to 16mm, making it a cheap FF UWA option.

[@liufrieda1440]

Thanks for the video. It's pretty comprehensive!

[@chryseass.5143]

Hi Stefan, I tried this out on my Sony a7iii and found that i could use it at 24mm (Full frame, uncropped) in the 12-16 focal range as a handy ultra wide without too much vignetting.

[@musicmaestro88]

Hi there. Can I see some of your FF shots with this? IG: freshouttafocus

[@chryseass.5143]

@@musicmaestro88 I have moved on to the excellent Tamron 17-28 f2.8 for my a7iii . You really have to be careful to hit just the right focal length with the 10-18 f.4 on full frame or you do get very dark corners. As I already owned it, it was fun to try it out but I would not suggest specifically buying the lens to use for wide angle unless it is for a crop sensor body.

[@musicmaestro88]

@@chryseass.5143 I have the a6500 as well as an A7iii. I just wanted to eyeball some FF shots. I already know to shoot from 12mm up on the FF to clean up the corners. Do you have shots posted with it from your a7iii? IG: freshouttafocus

[@chryseass.5143]

@@musicmaestro88 Sorry, no I don't but it was not usable on full frame at 12mm, only in the 14-16mm range. I also have the same two camera bodies as you do.

[@Jaden.Xie1]

I’m still quite a beginner and learning. I’m getting my first camera and I think it’s gonna be the a6600 because I can’t afford a full frame one. I was wondering what’s the problem if I bought the 20mm 1.8 (full frame compatibility) vs 10-18mm on the a6600 which has the aps-c sensor? I’m looking to shoot landscapes. Which would you recommend?

[@StefanMalloch]

The 20mm on an apsc will be 30mm and not wide enough. The 10-18 is basically your only option for a wide enough zoom. Pricey but a good lens.

[@louismarucci9056]

I love this lens & have owned it for a few long time.

[@lovegames8530]

One of the only, but also a great ultra wide angle lens!

[@StefanMalloch]

True story

[@ManguWaAmani]

I have a quick question. I just got the Zv-e10 and I’m looking for a lens that I can use while vlogging as well as doing sit down videos (unboxings, etc) would you recommend this lens for both?

[@AiurMedia]

the stabilization isn't as good as I would hope, but the lens itself is really nice, considering the high price, a used one would be perfect.

[@rubbrdux]

I've noticed mpb seems to have a number of "excellent" used for about $639 each . Looks like a good price !

[@AiurMedia]

@@rubbrdux yeah that's pretty good, i got mine at 350euro a bargain in a hundred years xD

[@homechoicehk]

Nice setup

[@arsulaksono881]

i have this lens.. I'm not quite satisfied with the sharpness, so I bought voigtlander 15/4.5 III.. I still keep the zoom but just for family vacation, I'll probably sell it later

[@itsdannyftw]

Thanks Stefan - Tamron 17-28 F2.8 or this for vlogging on the A6600?

[@AvdhutVaidya84]

Thank you.. the stabilization was a take away for mi How would you rank it next to canon 10-18mm for vlogging? Considering lower apperture on canon and lower price as well? Canon is better stabilized too I feel.

[@s1bur]

Brilliant lens on full frame as well, you just cannot use the extreme ends of the focal range. I use it all the time on my A7 series camera.

[@Anton-zb9dc]

Hm, I don't know yet much about lenses, could I use this lens instead of prime lens for photogrammetry?

[@richardpcrowe]

Does the profile correction impact the sharpness of the corners?

[@ShiftGearsMoto]

Really helpful review - thanks. Dropping a comment to help you out.

[@LeyendaProductions]

i have a question i've seen this lens come in the orange box like the one you have and a have also seen it come in a white box what is the difference?

[@StefanMalloch]

Could be grey market or refurbished. Be careful if you care about the warranty.

[@codyjwoods]

Damn.... I really wish I would have saw the IBIS a6600 stabilization flaws 2 years ago. Thanks for displaying that though. Had I known sooner it would have saved me so much time when deciding between camera bodies for vlogging and I ultimately would have not bought a 10-18 for 800 and just bought an additional camera body. Might as well get a sigma 16mm if your camera has IBIS since they're gonna look horrifically shakey anyway in terms of vlogging.

[@titoli1]

This is the reason why I’m not picking the new zv-e10 over zv-1 just head that there is terrible shuttering and bad ibis.

[@Ndpmnyc]

How this compares to the sony 12-24 f2.8 gm astrophotography?

[@tshuvahavodah237]

Got one, thanks for the review!

[@chrisbenitez6548]

Perhaps this is a silly question, but, will super 35 mode for 4K erase the benefit of shooting with a wide angle lens like this?

[@pratyayghatak7440]

This lens is a beast 🔥

[@PlaneCDR]

Thanks...quite helpful!

[@itsgabe5894]

does it make sense buying lense, when I already have the E 16-55mm F2,8 G?

[@StefanMalloch]

Sure it does if you want an ultra wide.

[@itsgabe5894]

@@StefanMalloch thx

[@ms.7584]

Thanks for video. Does it works on not APS-C camera . Sony A9 with out making crop. ?

[@RichardStrong86]

It's an E mount lens, and the Sony A9 does use those.

[@lesliesharpe4915]

Another great review!!!

[@StefanMalloch]

Glad you liked it!

[@abgurung2107]

Sigma 16 mm or sony 10-18 in 6400 body ? Please recommend me

[@StefanMalloch]

Perhaps check out the Tamron 11-20mm f2.8 shortly and choose then. Both of those are great though

[@abgurung2107]

@@StefanMalloch thank you but doesn’t have oss i have 6400 body should i buy 10-18 sony

[@benjaminwoodman]

Can someone tell me the low-light capabilities? I’m looking for a “go-to” or a “all in one” lense I can use for common vids.

[@MonicaHolly143]

16-55 is more all arounder

[@standy8947]

will this work in full frame? sony a7c

[@StefanMalloch]

Yes but with a 1.5x crop

[@PhotoCameraTech]

Does anyone know if I could use this lens on an A7riii in APS-C mode?

[@StefanMalloch]

Yes but why?

[@PhotoCameraTech]

@@StefanMalloch Just wanted to know if the lens was compatible with the A7riii. Thought maybe it wouldn't fit on it or something because it is an APS-C lens.

[@standhd]

@@PhotoCameraTech All Sony E mount lenses work on all Sony E mount bodies; APS-C and Full Frame. If you put a crop sensor lens on a full frame body, you may have vignetting at the wide angle if it is a zoom lens. Putting the Full Frame camera into Crop Mode will eliminate that issue.

[@TedEhioghae]

Hello. Does F/4 mean you can't go below the number?

[@isabellemartinez2770]

yes

[@mirrorlessny]

this lens is a lot of fun,,,,,,, hope Sony makes a GM apsc prime like 14mm 1.4 :)

[@abgurung2107]

14 mm 1.8 oss is just released

[@mirrorlessny]

@@abgurung2107 yea look at that, 1 year after this message Sony full frame 14mm1.8 is released alongside Tamron apsc 11-20mm2.8, lens collection keeps getting better :0)

[@abgurung2107]

@@mirrorlessny but it’s doesn’t have oss in lens :(

[@mirrorlessny]

@@abgurung2107 Yea Tamron 11-20 doesn't but a6500/a6600 have ibis & I hope more of new apsc bodies will come with newer active-ibis

[@janfourth75]

Hi all! My Sony 10-18mm is not sharp @18 but @10 is ok. Anyone get the same issue like me? Tks!

[@StefanMalloch]

Hmm, sorry to hear. Should be Sharp!

[@abandonedphoto206]

Can I use it with my sony a7ii in full format?

[@StefanMalloch]

Only in crop mode.

[@abandonedphoto206]

@@StefanMalloch Okay thank you so I will take the samyang AF 14mm f / 2.8

[@electrichimp]

It's actually very usable at 12-16mm without crop, if you already have the lens... It's a awesome option to have

[@aksikanal6507]

So a6600 s ibis is a joke =) thanks man, you saved me from a lot of unnecessary spending.. a 6100 it is=)

[@mirrorlessny]

true it's bad, it's all Sony got if I want to vlog with Sigma 16mm prime,,,better than nothing

[@codyjwoods]

Aksi Kanal if you stick to tripod locked off shots you can do prime. OSS is a must otherwise. -former a6400 user and now a6600 user. Buy 3 or 4 batteries!

[@aksikanal6507]

Cody Woods almost exclusively studio only shots so sigma 16 and my a6100 are dwelled already;)

[@mirrorlessny]

@@aksikanal6507 awesome combo for studio, Cody Woods you right about those little batteries, but newer bodies/sensors/circuitry a bit more efficient

[@OkamiTV]

Thanks for the review was very helpful if theres any way to contact you please letme know i have some questions, best regards

[@MarlonKingShow]

Thanks dude. Such a shame this is expensive, I paid £200 for the 10-18 in my Canon set up and sold it for 160. Yes that was f4.5 and ultimately I wasn't super impressed which is why I'm hesitant to spend 4 times that amount for half a stop extra light.

[@JaYoeNation]

the image stabilization was really poor.

[@Deolifica]

I wanted this lens for handheld vlogging for my a6400. Not anymore.

[@tinaavantis6900]

What lense did you end up with ?

[@Deolifica]

@@tinaavantis6900 Sigma 16mm f1.4. I'm liking it a lot. But I also bought a gimbal since the a6400 doesn't have IS

[@dailydashvids]

I am just new in photography. I do vlogs on my cooking i use a sony ar73 camera and kit lens. My video is not wide enough for the kitchen. i do need a wide angle lens and capable of low light environment. Can anyone please help me out. Appreciate it very much. Thanks in advance.

[@TrillionTalents777]

How about vs the sigma 16mm 1.4?

[@codyjwoods]

M Z 16mm is too tight. I have both. Too jittery even with ibis on the a6600. Too slow to focus as well. I’m mainly using it for run and gun video. Go with the 10-18. Bokeh is overrated as well. 10mm vs 16 is MASSIVE.

[@codyjwoods]

M Z but if you are doing locked off shots then 16mm. Don’t even think about it. Way better.

[@nostronemo]

And so what? The best option OR the only real choice? What about the Rokinon or Sigma options? Everyone knows that this lens can have big sharpness issues… depending of the copy. And that’s a big risk. But maybe it is not so important… Wish you all the best

[@martinweber3859]

Mine had extremely soft edges, so I got rid of it due to the bad quality.

[@StefanMalloch]

Sorry to hear

[@retakefilms7]

This lens for sony 7iii ???

[@tuffany6392]

if i could afford it...

[@coachMiguelfishing]

I have this lens with a a6400 and it has never looked that bad while walking not sure what’s going on but that looked horrible lol

[@myoti9831]

Rokinon 12mm AF is like half the price.

[@chloescanlon1107]

You don’t show it actually on the camera once.

[@MtnXfreeride]

Holy crap that stabilization is a joke for video

[@둘리형아]

한글자막이다..

[@850Tech]

Let skip this lens