Sony FX3 vs. Arri Alexa (Skin Tones, Highlights, and Cine EI)

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Blaine Westropp

Blaine Westropp

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@Rosenbis
@Rosenbis 2 жыл бұрын
As a A7SIII/FX3 user I find this super interesting ! And If you want to talk about your 35 Flektogon, I'm sure there's plenty of people here interested in that ! =)
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I love the flektogon. I ordered 2 more zeiss jenas on eBay. Anxiously waiting for the 20 and the 50 to arrive.
@Cinematographer_brenton
@Cinematographer_brenton 2 жыл бұрын
great video dude! super interesting the way Sony slog-3 handles dynamic range and distribution of tones
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yes it is interesting for sure.
@propellavideo
@propellavideo 2 жыл бұрын
Just don’t watch this next to your Amazon Alexa. 😂
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
Ya know when I was originally recording this I attempted to say “camera 1” and “camera 2” for this very reason, but I kept just calling them by name 😂
@propellavideo
@propellavideo 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlaineWestropp1 😂 it’s a great video my man. As a Sony user it was great to see the comparison; loved it. 👊🏻
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@thiagolimadop
@thiagolimadop Жыл бұрын
That Just happened 😳
@itsmarcocanlas
@itsmarcocanlas 2 жыл бұрын
Stellar video as usual 🔥 But I love how your wife is just chillin and watching you do the tests!
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Had to have her there to make sure I didn’t miss anything. I’m new to being in front of the camera 😂
@itsmarcocanlas
@itsmarcocanlas 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlaineWestropp1 What lens were you using to film your commentary tho? It rolls off well on your skin tones
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
@@itsmarcocanlas that was the sigma 24-70 on the FX3. Used color compressor (a new thing I’ve been experimenting with) in resolve and it worked some magic.
@itsmarcocanlas
@itsmarcocanlas 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlaineWestropp1 Insane! Didn't look like the sigma 24-70, it looks softer and less sharp! Did you have a diffusion filter or nah?
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
@@itsmarcocanlas nah, possibly looked softer bc those clips were rendered to 1080.
@ウェイドの小さな部屋
@ウェイドの小さな部屋 2 жыл бұрын
Blaine, you always bring us interesting videos! I also like your short videos💛
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊 the shorts are definitely a late night experiment for now, but I do have a lot more “short” clips I will upload.
@ウェイドの小さな部屋
@ウェイドの小さな部屋 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlaineWestropp1 looking forward to them! ☺️
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
:)
@willvazquez3218
@willvazquez3218 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for tests. I sold my Alexa Classic a few months ago and miss it, mainly cause it was HUGE. Since then I bought a Komodo to replace my Alexa for my higher-end gigs and meh, I don't like the image or working with the Komodo at all. I have an FX3 that I actually prefer over the Komodo, but client perception of the tiny camera is no bueno, so I made the decision to buy an Amira. Yes, it's heavy but lighter than the classic, and it has that Alexa magic. The great thing about the Alev III sensor is that no matter what lens you put on it, even a Sigma 18-35mm, it still looks magical. I've gotten tired of trying to make other cameras look like Alexa by using Phantom LUTs or Juan Melara's great Sony2Alexa or Komodo2Alexa LUTs. At the end of the day, nothing is like an Alexa.
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you about the Alexa image. I also like red, had a scarlet-w for a while and loved it. Working with the Alexa (like actually working with the camer) is really top notch and perfect. I’d recommend searching for a mini. I’ve seen great prices here and there.
@willvazquez3218
@willvazquez3218 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlaineWestropp1 The thing is, is that the Amira images is identical to Mini and it does ProRes 3.2K and 200fps HD like the Mini, and can record internal audio cause it has phantom XLR. I need that for a lot of jobs I do. Then I don't have to sync during edit and don't need a separate sound recordist. Cheapest Alexa Mini is about $27k and cheapest Amira is $13K.
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
@@willvazquez3218 I gotcha, well then I’d definitely makes sense to go amira in that case. I know you’ll love it.
@anirudhtd7193
@anirudhtd7193 2 жыл бұрын
Hey have you used the Sigma fp? Do you have any thoughts on it? I was thinking about buying either the Fx3 or Sigma
@willvazquez3218
@willvazquez3218 2 жыл бұрын
@@anirudhtd7193 I owned the Sigma FP for a year. Fun camera to play with, but Sony FX3 is much more feasible. The FX3 has the best autofocus in the world with a great selection of affordable lenses, and great 422 10 bit color, AND XLR audio handle with phantom power. A beast. Buy it, you’ll love it.
@elvisripley
@elvisripley 2 жыл бұрын
You might try ACES. I did some tests with all the main cameras from Sony, Canon, Arri, Red and found the ACES transforms made them all match pretty closely where the DaVinci transforms all looked good but didn’t end up looking like each other.
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
i really haven't stuck to an ACES workflow, for web delivery I felt as if it added more steps than I was interested in fully learning. I need to look into it further. I can manually match different cameras in resolve pretty well (different A and B camera for an interview for example). I will test ACES again. any pro tips?
@elvisripley
@elvisripley 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlaineWestropp1 Well I like to set the Color Space and Transforms in the Project settings. ACEScct, ACES 1.3, Apply ACES reference gamut compress Then all the exposure transforms are done in the timeline space which is ACEScct. I do this so you can apply the same adjustments to clips of multiple cameras and also because it is easier to just have less nodes when the in and out transform aren't on each clip. You could do the same test you did but use the ACES transform instead of the DaVinci one. Maybe you will get a closer result but maybe you will still see the difference.
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
@@elvisripley cool thank you. Will definitely look into this.
@JitDawgBruhDang
@JitDawgBruhDang 2 жыл бұрын
i see what’s in the background 😈
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
Hehe shhhh 😇
@atjeremy
@atjeremy 2 жыл бұрын
Phantom luts comparison against the Alexa? Would love to see that. This is a great video by the way thanks Blaine 🙏 😊
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I will happily do a video comparing the phantom luts!
@atjeremy
@atjeremy 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlaineWestropp1 thank you! I’ve heard they’re the best for Sony - apparently
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
i have heard this as well!
@keith-knittel
@keith-knittel 2 жыл бұрын
Not as nearly as nice as the Alexa, but have been really pleased with my Sonys! I really need to use Resolve more
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been pleased with the FX3, as I mentioned I bring it everywhere. I think if you put portability and quality on a Casey Neistat style camera graph, the FX3 would hit both more than most others.
@daviddn5631
@daviddn5631 Жыл бұрын
@@BlaineWestropp1 Fraiser just used it to shoot "the creator". Basically just legitimize it as a real cinema camera
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 Жыл бұрын
Did he shoot the whole film on it? What lenses did he use?
@daviddn5631
@daviddn5631 Жыл бұрын
@@BlaineWestropp1 it seems that the whole film. He used orions. Pretty wild. I would assume he also used his characteristic "print to film" then rescanned like in Dune.
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 Жыл бұрын
Interesting! I have to check it out
@nyambe
@nyambe 2 жыл бұрын
Great content! Is the Slog3 underexposed in the first clips? Yes Sony EI does not exposure just the way you view it. You will need to expose it manually if you don't want it to clip. Next week I should have my Fx30, I will do similar test. Also vs my Original A7s and slog2
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely want to see some footage from the fx30! Both shots in the beginning are a bit underexposed. I wanted to keep the windows open, and just kind of quickly set it up. I also know I can bring up the exposure on both cameras without much of an issue. And lastly, when I set the shot, the monitor on the table was lighting my face, when I turned it off I could not see that my face dropped a lot in exposure :(
@agri2986
@agri2986 2 жыл бұрын
THIS IS GORGEOUS VIDEO I HAVE EVER WATCHED
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
❤️❤️
@redfoxcreatives
@redfoxcreatives 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see phantom lut comparison! Bought it to get close to arri look. Pay attention to the WDR thing included, pulls out extra range for me but I’m not a pro colorist.
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
That’s what everyone keeps saying! Will definitely do that next. I want to test the BM pocket 6k against the Alexa as well so maybe I’ll use phantom for that and the fx3 when I do that test.
@emilthilsing
@emilthilsing Жыл бұрын
please do@@BlaineWestropp1
@easementh
@easementh 2 жыл бұрын
To the point. Great vid
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@chromiqa
@chromiqa 4 ай бұрын
nice color grade after the log conversation
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 4 ай бұрын
Thank you :)
@tunatech
@tunatech 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to it.
@eike.zender
@eike.zender Жыл бұрын
So regarding the same clipping point in the fx3 - would you recommend just to stay at ISO 800? If the highlights clip at the same point, with ISO 800 you could at least save informations in the shadows...
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 Жыл бұрын
I keep the fx3 at 800 or 12800. If I could have a way to see if the log image was clipping, I would move around the iso all the time. but I have been in a scenario with the fx3 where I lowered the EI, had zebras set, thought I was not clipping, and then later I see clipped footage in resolve.
@eike.zender
@eike.zender Жыл бұрын
@@BlaineWestropp1 what Zebra Values work the best for you for skintones and highlights? With the phantom LUTs the suggested IRE is at 56 for skintones and at 75 for highlights. But with my FX30 I tend to underexpose when sticking to those values.
@anthonyzawahri5060
@anthonyzawahri5060 2 жыл бұрын
Blaine you’re the best
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tony. Miss you. Come hang w me in nyc.
@_ybnn
@_ybnn Жыл бұрын
I have done same highlights test with Venice, it does the same as your experiment with fx3, clipping point is the same even if you crank up iso
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 Жыл бұрын
Interesting, I was wondering that but have not tested this on the Venice!
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 Жыл бұрын
Do you know what IRE value the log image clips on the Venice?
@_ybnn
@_ybnn Жыл бұрын
I think it was 94%? I check that and let you know
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@SeanDaPaulSeh
@SeanDaPaulSeh 7 ай бұрын
lol your wife was like “you better put me in your video so they know you’re not single” hahahaha
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 7 ай бұрын
Hahaha oh I assure you it’s me pushing her to be in the videos.
@JosePortillo
@JosePortillo 2 ай бұрын
Hey mate! Fx3 vs Bmpcc6k? Thanks!
@acedia4453
@acedia4453 2 жыл бұрын
Alexa is for narrative pieces, not the KZbin vlogging or ESPN 4k crisp footage that Sony cameras produce. The FX3 is the ideal wedding videographer camera, but not the ideal film or documentary tool.
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
there are a couple alexas here and there at NFL games. the alexa is the prime camera for narrative and high end commercial work, beyond just its look. working with it, and the workflow, and the flexibility of the color in post is second to none. i did find a nice look with the sony when i brought it to italy: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gaPFfqxjmMlkh5o ... i can only imagine if i brought the alexa! in the end of the day all of the cameras out right now are nice.
@aartikulkarni7899
@aartikulkarni7899 Жыл бұрын
Have seen The Creator? Shot on fx3
@agri2986
@agri2986 2 жыл бұрын
I AM NOT A NATIVE SPEAKER AND I JUST ORDERED my fx3 10 minutes ago. after i sold my A73. is it right that you want say is FX3 HIGHLIGHT CLIPPING POINT DOES NOT CHANGE with changing the iso as we already know if we change iso higher then we can capture more highlight. but sony does not in the cine ei mode. so i can take more highlight or darkside only with cine ei point.? is it right? so i can take more highlight with cine ei not with higher iso. most important question is " is it really better to get fx3 than a7s3 to get more dynamic range? "
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. The clipping point in slog 3 does not change no matter what you shoot in, does not change with cine ei, or iso adjustments, but you can still get a nice image. Also, I believe the FX3 and the A7S3 have the same dynamic range 😊
@JohnLuna
@JohnLuna Жыл бұрын
I'd love to know how exposure index is different on ARRI vs Sony. I understand that Sony does not gain highlight info because it still records at 800 native. Like the ARRIs, Blackmagic cameras let you gain highlight information when you raise the ISO. When you change the EI on ARRIs is it still recording native ISO and just changing the display? If its EI not ISO(?) how does it gain highlight info? Thanks! I'd love to see a video explaining the difference.
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 Жыл бұрын
Hi, when you change the EI on an Alexa, it is not recording native and just changing the display, it actually recorded the changed EI. If you raise the EI, the point at which the sensor clips the log image rises, which is a very nice thing to have. On the FX3, when you change the EI, nothing happens on the sensor, the only thing that happens is the display gets brighter or darker. The problem I have with the FX3 is that your zebra will indicate different clipping as you change the EI. So you can unfortunately be in a scenario where (if your zebras are set to 94 to show you where you are clipping) you lower your EI, and the screen says you are not clipping but then you look at the footage and its completely clipped. The zebras should not change on the FX3 when you change EI, because.. the image actually doesn't change at all. This is not the case on the Alexa.
@JohnLuna
@JohnLuna Жыл бұрын
@@BlaineWestropp1 thanks for letting me know about the zebra issue on the FX3! That's definitely a problem to be aware of. I only started hearing about EI when the FX9 came out. Sounds like EI on ARRI is basically ISO - and it works just like Blackmagic. Any idea why ARRI calls it EI and not ISO?
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 Жыл бұрын
@@JohnLuna sure thing! on the fX3 I just stick to 800 or 12800 (rarely). Arri calls it EI bc each camera has one ISO. On the mini LF that ISO is 800. You can't change the iso, but you can change the EI which shifts the dynamic range allocation above/below middle grey. It's like film, you can't change the ISO of a film stock. During regular operations though, EI on a digital camera behaves like ISO, and on the Alexa it changes where the DR sits. I think a lot of other camera just use the term ISO to not complicate things!
@JohnLuna
@JohnLuna Жыл бұрын
@@BlaineWestropp1 thanks for that lesson lol. I appreciate it! So to be clear only Sony just changes the display? Is it only an FX3/30 thing?
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 Жыл бұрын
Sure thing! Glad to help. Yes Sony EI adjustments just changes the image on the display. The purpose of it is to view what an exposure adjustment in post may look like. In this case it would be good to have a large accurate monitor on set. It is not only an fx3/30 thing. I believe it is the same even up to the Venice (haven’t specifically tested this on the Venice, but someone in the comments here mentioned that was the case).
@javebjorkman
@javebjorkman 2 жыл бұрын
Did you try the second base ISO for the FX3? It goes up to 12,800. I was wondering what it would do to the highlights
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! You can see this @5:50
@kanishkgrover3355
@kanishkgrover3355 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! About the highlight recovery, you tested sony at both its native ISOs, If you go to 1000 iso or above on sony you should see the difference in the latitudes. For FX9 if you go from 800 to 1600 you gain one stop in highlights and lose one stop in shadows. not sure about the fx3.
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
On the FX3 you do not gain anything or lose anything when changing from 800 to anything else. Haven’t used the fx9, but I was pretty certain this was the same. If your clipping point isn’t changing you aren’t gaining anything. Does your clipping point change on the fx9 if you increase iso?
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
Also, thank you!
@kanishkgrover3355
@kanishkgrover3355 2 жыл бұрын
I just got a fx9 few weeks back and haven’t tested that yet but I found a chart, I’ll share it with you on your IG which explains how changing ISO changes how the dynamic range works. Definitely going to do a real time test sometime soon.
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen the charts! Test it on the fx9 and let me know!
@volaksin5842
@volaksin5842 Жыл бұрын
So for the Sony grade, you change Slog3 to Arri log3 and then another transform from Arri log3 to Rec 709, pretty much adding the Arri footage nodes to the Sony?
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 Жыл бұрын
Yes!
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 Жыл бұрын
But there will be further adjustments that need to be made specific to the Sony to match it more closely. The transforms just allow the Sony footage to properly receive the grade that was created for the Alexa footage.
@volaksin5842
@volaksin5842 Жыл бұрын
@@BlaineWestropp1 Makes sense, thanks for response!
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 Жыл бұрын
sure thing!
@MichaelWeizenfeld
@MichaelWeizenfeld Жыл бұрын
When you enlarge highlights range, you lower a shadows range (noise floor) in Alexa.
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 Жыл бұрын
Yes of course!
@kraftpunk6654
@kraftpunk6654 Жыл бұрын
This goes to show that the aesthetics of the image come from the person behind the camera and display transform (CST/LUT), rather than the camera.
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 Жыл бұрын
Truth 🫡
@percywillis
@percywillis 2 жыл бұрын
Great breakdown. Show the full screen version of the clips. They look like thumbnails on our screens. Hard to see the detail.
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
I can upload a short full screen comparison with these clips. Will let you know!
@percywillis
@percywillis 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlaineWestropp1 Yes sir. You have my sub! Keep up the good work. Will be waiting.
@percywillis
@percywillis 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlaineWestropp1 Drop me a comment when you upload. Thanks bro.
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
@@percywillis thank you :)
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
@@percywillis I will definitely let you know.
@pglazzari1
@pglazzari1 7 ай бұрын
Can you do a iPhone 15 pro max vs Alexa, mini LF? That Apple log is like butter!
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 7 ай бұрын
Yes! 100%. Can’t wait to post this :) I actually really love the apple log.
@renaissancedigital5730
@renaissancedigital5730 Жыл бұрын
If expose normally at a higher ISO you'll save more highlights and get noisier shadows. The higher ISO doesn't capture more dynamic range. It's like if you shoot ISO 2000 in broad daylight. You'll have to use a lot more ND than if you shot at 200 iso. You'll probably not clip any highlights but your shadows and midtones will be noisy as hell. But if you exposed at 200 iso you'd have a lot less highlight room but very clean shadows. I guess that is hard to wrap one's head around lol.
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 Жыл бұрын
Yes, but each camera handles it a little differently. In one way it’s easy and in another way it’s hard. The best thing you can do is to repeat this test w your cam!
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 Жыл бұрын
Well maybe not repeat this video but repeat this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mavbm2muiKh3kNUsi=t4Xk5SzHlcBxNxDx
@renaissancedigital5730
@renaissancedigital5730 Жыл бұрын
@@BlaineWestropp1 I mean when you are dealing with dual ISO cameras it is different. But aside from that maybe cameras with inbuilt NR is something to consider as well. I do agree with what you are saying in this video though. It is 100% accurate.
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 Жыл бұрын
Dual native is different in that as the second iso is cleaner, but thinking about shifting the DR stays the same. But some cameras is doesn’t really shift. On Sony, the image changes when you change between native ISOs, but does not change when changing between any other ISOs.
@chromiqa
@chromiqa 4 ай бұрын
the skin tone Alexa give is more pleasing to eyes to me
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 4 ай бұрын
Me too
@renaissancedigital5730
@renaissancedigital5730 Жыл бұрын
I don't know how much the FX30 differs from the FX3 but I haven't been happy with mine. Using a color space transform the skin just looks like crap against the Alexa. It's even worse using the default Sony lut. For whatever reason default WB settings on the Sony are just super pink/magenta. It almost feels like Sony just went, "hey let's make this as ugly as possible". Or maybe it's just not fair pitting anything against an Alexa. When not shooting humans it's great. 1600-2500 iso is very nice.
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 Жыл бұрын
Yep just a CST does not look good. I have 2 luts for slog3 that I made that I use as a starting point. Only time I’ll use a CST is to convert to another colorspace/gamma when a global look is on the timeline for a project using multiple cameras.
@renaissancedigital5730
@renaissancedigital5730 Жыл бұрын
@@BlaineWestropp1 I tried Juan Melara's luts, Emotive Color, and the Phantom luts. The phantom luts come the closest to actually looking like an Alexa, but its still not there. Both were just balanced at 5600k, natural light coming thu windows. I was just expecting to get something more usable out of the sony without correction.
@DipaceGiri
@DipaceGiri 6 ай бұрын
FX3 is a mini Alexa , Perfect camera to use without a rig.
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 6 ай бұрын
It’s a great camera!
@RednWhiteWorld
@RednWhiteWorld 2 жыл бұрын
It is fascinating that 12 year old ARRI sensor still can not be matched by any camera manufacturers ! Not Red, not Sony, Not Panasonic, Not BMD, Not Sigma FP, Not Z-Cam...Maybe we need to wait for 2030, until then I ll just stick to my old Alexa Classic
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
Really is quite incredible. I remember the first Alexa footage I ever saw on the computer years ago, not in the theater or on TV, but straight off the camera onto the computer… it’s magic.
@nealhope6127
@nealhope6127 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the highlight clip like this on the FX9/FX6?
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t used either, I’d also like to know. My friend just got a 6, maybe I have him clip it and send me the file. Will report back.
@jacknifeskiggs2081
@jacknifeskiggs2081 2 жыл бұрын
Brother a full screen A and B would have been fantastic
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been meaning to post the full frame comparison from this footage. I’ll drop a link when I do, maybe add phantom luts and aces.
@MarcDeAcetis
@MarcDeAcetis 2 жыл бұрын
The highlights are the biggest thing for me on this camera. I wish they rolled off a bit nicer.
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
Yep me too. But, I still think the camera is really incredible. I just try to be careful with highlights in the shot, but in most scenarios it’s great IMO.
@Smbat_m
@Smbat_m 2 ай бұрын
Sony’s base iso for slog3 is 640 not 800
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 ай бұрын
Weirdly.. it used to be 640. It’s now 800.
@tlindaas
@tlindaas Жыл бұрын
What camera did you use to film yourself and your wife in the sofa? I read the comments and it seems that you say the FX3 (with color compressor) in one comment, and the Alexa in another comment.
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 Жыл бұрын
For that shot I used the Sony
@nagelc27
@nagelc27 2 жыл бұрын
IS IT THE SAME WHEN RECORDING RAW TO A NINJA. THOUGHT THIS COULD BE AN LIMITATION OF SLOG 3 NOT THE SENSOR
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean? I think recording the the ninja is similar, just different codec but colors and clip point are the same.
@nagelc27
@nagelc27 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlaineWestropp1 ok but if we record ProRes raw and compare it to the slog 3 footage would/could this effect the clipping point?
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think so but I cannot be certain without testing it. Someone else said the clipping point remained the same, which makes sense.
@tomaszbejnarowicz
@tomaszbejnarowicz 2 жыл бұрын
hi! great video! i think you can improve your audio a little bit to be more pleasing
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I know it. Told myself I would never buy a mic, got a cheap mic for the fx3 that sounds much better but shot this one on the Alexa and was being lazy :/
@EdmundElijah
@EdmundElijah 2 жыл бұрын
You’re going to make me switch back to Sony, bro! 😂
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
Next video will make a LUT to really match them. Get an fx6 dude!
@blaineskrainka
@blaineskrainka 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlaineWestropp1 I can send you the Phantom slog3 to Arri 709 neutral, if you'd like
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I appreciate that. I think I have it!
@EdmundElijah
@EdmundElijah 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlaineWestropp1 I had the FX6. I like the FX3 more. It’s either an FX3 or an FX9 for me! Haha.
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
love the fx3. what about the 9 would you want over the 6?
@verebellus
@verebellus 2 жыл бұрын
id love to see the same thing but with Blackmagic 6k pro or an Ursa camera
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see that as well. Funny you mention, I’m currently bidding on an OG bmpcc kit on eBay. I miss that camera!
@verebellus
@verebellus 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlaineWestropp1 i have my eye on an og myself
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
@@verebellus I had one years ago. I like how simple it is. Not a million settings, let’s you focus on what matters. Prores, and raw, tiny. Gotta experiment with it again.
@morucek
@morucek 10 ай бұрын
no bla bla bla, straight to the business! i ll buy that for a dollar!!
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 10 ай бұрын
😊😊😊
@MrVh78
@MrVh78 2 жыл бұрын
Sould have used prores raw on the FX3 for a better comparison since you're pitting it against ArriRaw.
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
Is prores raw available via an atomos or something? Do you have experience with it.. would love to know more and try it out.
@fredrikl5730
@fredrikl5730 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlaineWestropp1 Yep, Ninja V will record ProRes raw. I personally saw no real benefits when it comes to latitude.
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
@@fredrikl5730 cool, would love to try it out. Can you record the full height of the sensor?
@noahjstein
@noahjstein 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlaineWestropp1 hi Blaine! ProRes Raw on the fx3 basically gets an 10bit 4:2:2 image to a 12bit 4:2:2, so color depth is much closer to the Alexa, but the subsampling won’t at all get to 4444. I use the ninja V on my fx3, I love it, I love the monitor, and the codec as well. Recording from the Ninja V your 4k image also turns to 4.2k. As a ninja V fan I’d love to see 10bit fx3 Vs 12bit raw fx3 vs Alexa! Love ur vids bro
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Noah thank you. On the ninja, do you still get a 16:9 image? Does it use any more of the height of the sensor? If so, that would be what would make me more so want to test this. Also, do the clips look the same at a glance from the ninja? Are the colors the same to the eye?
@medy.the.minimalist
@medy.the.minimalist 7 ай бұрын
Blaine oh Blaine..man please let us have that LUT to grade our fx3 as the Alexa..please😭😭😭 (yes I have the Komodo x and the fx3😂🤝)
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 7 ай бұрын
The luts are ready. Stay tuned.
@travelthroughart
@travelthroughart Жыл бұрын
Why am I watching this with my little Pocket4K and no money in my pocket? :D Still enjoyed good vid :)
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 Жыл бұрын
I want the pocket 4k!
@travelthroughart
@travelthroughart Жыл бұрын
@@BlaineWestropp1 Thanks haha :) Yeah I actually love it
@_o__o_
@_o__o_ 2 жыл бұрын
bought 3 alexas. put them in the dishwasher. one survived. put it in the microwave. exploded. lost 2 fingers. #bodypositivity
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 2 жыл бұрын
You have to microwave them first.
@_o__o_
@_o__o_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlaineWestropp1 wisdom 🙏
@jamiazad4750
@jamiazad4750 Жыл бұрын
Mind boggling… higher iso less clipping
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 Жыл бұрын
@CINENIMUS
@CINENIMUS 10 ай бұрын
I actually prefer different on different setups. Meaning - it's all pointless. No idea why your clipping in such a low point on your Sony, mine clips at the very top. Clipping points differ from Arri or any manufacturer only because Sony calculates (as everyone else) calculates ISO values different. Not defending Sony I shoot on all kinds of brands currently have all Blackmagic cameras. Just saying what everyone knows by now - they all good.
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 10 ай бұрын
Your fX3 clips above 94 in slog3? Regardless.. they do all look good.
@darkodj4131
@darkodj4131 3 ай бұрын
Sony... Alexa...Sony ...Alexa...Day...Night...Dat...Night...Sony ...Alexa...
@tecno8335
@tecno8335 6 ай бұрын
Damn your woman looks thrilled 😑
@BlaineWestropp1
@BlaineWestropp1 6 ай бұрын
She is
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