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David Oastler

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Жыл бұрын

Sony has abandoned the a7siii & a1
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@vznrylv
@vznrylv Жыл бұрын
As an A7siii owner I’m pissed but if I was an A1 owner I’d be livid. Especially seeing camera like the FX-30, ZV-E1 and A74 get features that could be easily implemented via firmware.
@scottclark1455
@scottclark1455 Жыл бұрын
As an A1 owner I am livid, particularly features like focus breathing compensation, which has been pushed via firmware to later released and less expensive cameras. Wouldn't you appreciate the customers who bought your most expensive products and seek to serve them at least as much as your other customers? Don't get me started on the fake prores raw they released. I tested it thoroughly, with it's pixel binned artifacts and inherent contradiction in calling 4.3k from an 8.6k sensor raw, with all of the obvious compression that results from that conversion. I wonder how much innovation these companies really employ vs. integrating concepts both widely available and designed by ancillary companies. If the latter, then the majority of their focus is marketing and pushing products. If that is the case, then apathy would be expected.
@TheOneMonk
@TheOneMonk Жыл бұрын
I am livid. Never again will I buy a flaggship camera from Sony.
@ingvarr4886
@ingvarr4886 Жыл бұрын
If this is because they want to make money on new cameras, then why not charge for these updates to older cameras, then the revenue also increases for the Alfa series. I think many people would happily pay a penny to get updates for their older cameras but still not old Alfa cameras
@Pfagnan
@Pfagnan Жыл бұрын
@@ingvarr4886AGREED! Makes absolutely no sense! 🥹
@isonny2010
@isonny2010 Жыл бұрын
I think the problem for Sony is it produced too many camera bodies
@amitkrupal1234
@amitkrupal1234 Жыл бұрын
Yes, only two are required, one photo centric (3:2) possibly 24MP and one video centric (16:9) maybe 8k 33mp Full frame are enough
@LY3355
@LY3355 Жыл бұрын
Sony is paying the price for being too innovative. Think about that. 😅 They want newer models even low end to have the technology of the previous flagships….🤔 This is a problem of course. And Sony needs to understand that frustration of customers. 🤷‍♂️
@isonny2010
@isonny2010 Жыл бұрын
@@LY3355 well they have the solid insurance business that pays the bill to begin with.🤣
@AllCarsUnited
@AllCarsUnited Жыл бұрын
​@@LY3355 problem is that in camera focus breathing isn't innovation, it's putting out fires they create by having horrible focus breathing in their most expensive lines. God knows i have to deal with it on my 35gm
@KOKOBC
@KOKOBC Жыл бұрын
I have the Sony A1 and remember hearing rumors about updates in febrary, it's now mid April and still nothing, practically lost hope at this point, it's a true shame
@constantinephotography5287
@constantinephotography5287 Жыл бұрын
Same! I had an A1 and sold it. Moved camera brands fully now. Love Sony glass thought…:/
@ryanmcnulty8323
@ryanmcnulty8323 Жыл бұрын
Looks like a FW update came out in May
@elyajvlogs
@elyajvlogs Жыл бұрын
I bought the A7S3 for video and it's my first professional camera for that... I saw the updates for the FX3 & FX30 and it's truly upsetting... come on Sony!! 😡
@GeekyNerdyTechy
@GeekyNerdyTechy Жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed for the A7SIII. I love that camera but it's been left way behind. The new FX3 and FX30 updates are a good step in the right direction. If we don't see an A7SIII update soon, it's probably not coming.
@quentondaniels8536
@quentondaniels8536 Жыл бұрын
Agreed Geeky
@fabimesizae
@fabimesizae Жыл бұрын
Canon continuously and frequently updates the firmware of the R6 and R5, Sony is the opposite.
@pwr24
@pwr24 Жыл бұрын
Facts! I’m so let down by the crappy screen and abandonment of features for the A1! They don’t take care of us users. Fuji kills them in this regard!
@mauibuilder1239
@mauibuilder1239 Жыл бұрын
I paid $3495 USD plus tax for my Sony A7siii and I'm not happy about the lack of firmware updates. Still a great camera, but I moved to Sony because Canon crippled their cameras now I'm having second thoughts.
@DavidOastler
@DavidOastler Жыл бұрын
It is such a shame
@LearnSpanishWorld
@LearnSpanishWorld Жыл бұрын
I feel your pain. I'm also very disappointing. Not sure if I will ever by an end of the line camera from Sony again. I think I 'll go for a Panasonic next
@ajalbetjr
@ajalbetjr Жыл бұрын
David this situation is truly getting RIDICULOUS.... I mean, think about it: Internally the A7SIII and FX3 have the same parts, so there is no reason why they can't add all the new features to the A7SIII... and with the A1 (which I own), it's even worse. I mean, SONY created the new category of 'best of everything' flagship camera in the A1, not the consumer... If you are going to create a new flagship series - and charge $2000 US more than any of your other models! - you damn sure better do your best to keep it as up-to-date as possible...It's getting to the point where I'm thinking that Sony is not updating specific cameras so as to intentionally isolate certain features to certain lines, in order to stimulate more overall sales. I have already decided that I will not buy a future A1II unless Sony changes their ways, or at least acknowledges the issue in some manner.
@DavidOastler
@DavidOastler Жыл бұрын
It’s so bad
@realnosemiguel
@realnosemiguel Жыл бұрын
Extremely upsetting, annoying and disappointing situation. I wonder if there's any formal or more organised thing we can do to approach Sony with a demand. I know they have control over what they do but we have all financed the development of these new cameras by buying the A1 and A7s. This degree of dismissal really isnt ok. Any ideas about organising someting?
@constantinephotography5287
@constantinephotography5287 Жыл бұрын
The only true voice we have is voting with our wallets. Like David said…don’t buy the flagships or don’t buy Sony all together.
@martinhannemann1757
@martinhannemann1757 Жыл бұрын
I love my a1 too and it feels to be abandoned by sony but i think / hope they are testing acurate to deliver a good result.
@endeavourdigitalmedia6355
@endeavourdigitalmedia6355 Жыл бұрын
As a Wholesale Sony User - A6400, NV1, a73, a74, a7s3 and a1 - not to mention an nx80 video cam - I have now decided that along with the lens' I will no longer be continueing in the Sony con, I have watched the way both Nikon and Canon (and more recently Panasonic - have been playing catch up and along the way exceeded the current specs of Sony be it with new models or for the most part by upgrades. This tells me that Sony simply do not get the fact they cannot appear to compete with the others in upgradability. We are simply getting equipment which at the start exceeds the competition but quickly loses its lead because they simply cannot update their equipment. Sorry Sony you have lost a customer !!
@Bo_Hazem
@Bo_Hazem Жыл бұрын
All these updates aren't crucial to me. The most crucial one to me is Animal/Bird eye detect in video mode for a7SIII.
@VinLooks
@VinLooks Жыл бұрын
Still believe Sony will do a right thing 🙏
@ozwarz
@ozwarz Жыл бұрын
The A7SIII still a GREAT camera, but I understand. The people I’m really sorry for are the people who bought the A7SIII a month or so before the FX3 came out. Honestly I don’t see the need for a future A7SIV.
@vznrylv
@vznrylv Жыл бұрын
I paid full price for an A7siii a few months after it was announced. FX3 was released afterwards and didn’t think I’d be getting the middle finger so blatantly
@SanjaySchulz
@SanjaySchulz Жыл бұрын
People need to start leaving negative reviews for the A7SIII on whatever website they bought it from.
@R0cKSteDee
@R0cKSteDee Жыл бұрын
100% agree. They're making it so obvious that they want to force you to buy more of their cameras to get those features. So greedy!
@theunkownmr.562
@theunkownmr.562 Жыл бұрын
💯
@constantinephotography5287
@constantinephotography5287 Жыл бұрын
Exactly!!
@Jonathantuba
@Jonathantuba Жыл бұрын
I am an A1 user and don’t feel abandoned. I bought the best camera for wildlife photography and it is still the best. I would not mind software updates, but don’t expect as the camera still does exactly what I bought
@quentondaniels8536
@quentondaniels8536 Жыл бұрын
Feel your pain David, my A7Riv has missed on previous firmware upgrades. Luckily I have got the FX3 and stoked it got the firmware upgrades. It should be with A7Siii and definitely the A1.
@DavidOastler
@DavidOastler Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@vincebaldwin2829
@vincebaldwin2829 Жыл бұрын
My a7iii is my baby and will stay with her until I can’t anymore
@onnie1968
@onnie1968 Жыл бұрын
I sold all my Lumix gear and went to Sony I have the A7sIII, I'm not happy that there are no updates. Lumix was still shelling out updates for their G9, maybe Sony thinks they have the whole market. So no need to update a camera that's a few years old!! I'm thinking about selling my a7sIII and glass. If I did that I could buy a GH6 and the S5II. Sony getting a bit cocky and no respect for their long term owners.
@oospagheti
@oospagheti 11 ай бұрын
Back in the old 5D and t3i days, when canon used to forget about us, the MagicLantern guys saved the day
@karlbratby4349
@karlbratby4349 Жыл бұрын
They did the same with firmware for the A9ll , an amazing camera with power that could take much more firmware, no updates for years. I’m currently in the process of ditching Sony, I would rather my tool be from a manufacturer that has your back and not just a hold on your wallet.
@bigwinmedia5100
@bigwinmedia5100 Жыл бұрын
Imagine buying an iphone or gaming console and it never getting a firmware update. And those cost a fraction of the A1 and A7SIII! The Fact that a $6000 and $3500 isn't supported is honestly pathetic. I'm not switching camera systems, but I'm looking for the right opportunity. Panasonics cameras are cheaper and have tons of video features and they keep getting updates.
@DavidOastler
@DavidOastler Жыл бұрын
Exactly I agree
@AmroG.
@AmroG. Жыл бұрын
Great points really. Am no expert in photography, but the way the company treats you definitely push you to continue with them or move away. Apple for example updates their older iPhones for around 7 years older generations, and that means a lot to me. I usually give my older iPhones to family members that enjoy plenty of years with full up-to-date software versions. They won us over this way and I don’t think I would switch for better features in the competition anytime soon.
@DavidOastler
@DavidOastler Жыл бұрын
Yes that is true
@j.kimmer1509
@j.kimmer1509 Жыл бұрын
Very honest and real situation. Thank you David. I hope Sony will release an update soon.
@davidtaylor1188
@davidtaylor1188 Жыл бұрын
I went from Olympus to Nikon to Canon and then Sony for the last 5 years. After two of my G lenses failed in the last wet season here (I shoot a lot in the rain) I have one Sony lens left standing.... Repaired one of the Sony lenses but now have more issues and the repairs quickly add up to the cost of a replacement even in the Sony Pro Support program. I have replaced my failed Sony G lenses with Tamron glass.......basically after watching reviews on your channel David.. Once my A7R4 gives up the ghost I think I am headed back to Nikon. Sony has been good.....but the rest have caught back up IMO.
@KPAki1Ler
@KPAki1Ler Жыл бұрын
Sony used to do this with their phones too, rather than improve what they release, they just release a new device instead
@GilbertTV
@GilbertTV Жыл бұрын
yeah for the amount of money these cameras cost yes Sony should be giving us more
@AllCarsUnited
@AllCarsUnited Жыл бұрын
This will catch up with Sony. Some people may be negative about this until it happens to them. I think they will likely do with the a7s3 what they did with the a7r3, they'll add a consolation feature at the end of it's cycle "a7r3 got the animal and real life eye focus tracking"and forever neglect it after the fact. They have become what Canon was
@petrduchac2580
@petrduchac2580 Жыл бұрын
It's a little bit said that it's better to be late adopter and wait several years to see how the camera will turn out. When you look at history it was unexpected shock when the FX3 was released very close after A7Siii without any prior notice.
@slyder4life
@slyder4life Жыл бұрын
A7SIII purchasers got played! Sony knew the FX3 was on its way and they're laughing all the way to the bank!
@DavidOastler
@DavidOastler Жыл бұрын
Yep
@IMDABROWN
@IMDABROWN Жыл бұрын
Remember they pulled an update down for the A1, I bet they will add some of these feature in once they fix those.
@rudolphlagarrigue5072
@rudolphlagarrigue5072 Жыл бұрын
I am sure it is coming for a7s3 be patient the King can't be ignore 😊
@bradena.1194
@bradena.1194 Жыл бұрын
Sony ancient one - I have one and feel your pain.
@JohnDrummondPhoto
@JohnDrummondPhoto Жыл бұрын
As an outsider (non-Sony shooter) looking in, it does indeed seem that Sony really wants to bifurcate their hybrid and entry-cinema lines. When the FX-3 first came out, it was basically an A7S III with a different form factor. Updates like this make the FX-3 and FX-30 very different cameras from the hybrids and photo cameras. It does seem these updates could easily be applied to the A7S III and Alpha 1. But if they did, why buy the FX bodies? That must be what Sony are thinking. If I owned an A7S III or Alpha 1, I'd be pissed too. I hope to see you Saturday.
@tracyrobertson565
@tracyrobertson565 Жыл бұрын
It is a valid argument that you get what you bought. That said Nikon has knocked the ball out of the park with the z9. Sony, trough firmware updates made the a9 an industry leader and a different camera than that which was initially sold! I think I’m through with Sony and will soon sell my a1.
@DavidOastler
@DavidOastler Жыл бұрын
Yes i fully agree
@michaelhains2291
@michaelhains2291 Жыл бұрын
A bit over the top. Sony just released a firmware upgrade for the FX3 and FX30 in the last couple of days. The A9III is coming and I predict that the A1, at least, will get a major firmware upgrade shortly after. Not unlike what they did with the A9 firmware when releasing the A9II. In the meantime I will happily use one of the best cameras around, the A1.
@DavidOastler
@DavidOastler Жыл бұрын
I just don’t trust them anymore
@michaelhains2291
@michaelhains2291 Жыл бұрын
@@DavidOastler That's fine. I believe Sony will come through around the time of the A9III release and I am not fretting about it, as the A1 is still one of the best cameras around. It must be KZbinr worry, you are not alone.
@theraven871
@theraven871 Жыл бұрын
This is a definite issue. Sony needs to start respecting the buyers who over-spent and purchased the A7SIII and A1. Those are FLAGSHIP cameras.
@DavidOastler
@DavidOastler Жыл бұрын
I agree
@surfntrucks
@surfntrucks Жыл бұрын
David, I just found you again and I thought I was Subscribed. But I wasn't so I subscribed. Not sure if KZbin unsubscribed me or what. But, the Sony a7Slll is already an amazing camera and should do everything you need. Not everything needs to update to the newest thing. Hollywood uses the same systems for years. Some directors even go back to using older systems. The tool just has to work and be consistent.
@DavidOastler
@DavidOastler Жыл бұрын
Welcome back
@surfntrucks
@surfntrucks Жыл бұрын
@@DavidOastler You may want to remind people to subscribe in your live streams. People might not know they are not subscribe or KZbin unsubscribed them but I had to search for you to find you again.
@queensalnd
@queensalnd Жыл бұрын
Thanks for calling them out. Waiting patiently for A7siii update?
@refuztosay9454
@refuztosay9454 Жыл бұрын
They should keep the expensive models up to date - until they release a new version of those models. Then the path forward is buy the available new flagship for features and the old bodies just get bug fixes. This is basically how the software business runs.
@DavidOastler
@DavidOastler Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@Monik74nina
@Monik74nina Жыл бұрын
Good morning again, I will definitely return to Nikon when I can, after a week they returned the camera to me, they did a complete inspection and they did not find any defects, as I understand it, I asked for a change of equipment but it was not possible, the equipment remains the same, in The store referred me to a person in charge of Sony, this one on Sat, and he called me and told me that the camera was ready, and he referred me to another person if I had problems again for 7300e and I tell you that I will not bet on Sony again In comparison, I have an older Fuji and I have a last update from a super brutal week ago. I don't expect Sony to update us and the cameras prefer to release new models, a shame
@Crystal-fg4bb
@Crystal-fg4bb Жыл бұрын
It's complete BS how Sony has left behind these 2 major camera's. I've been in the process of transitioning over to Fujifilm because of this....lack of support to loyal customers. All the other camera brands support their customers for long periods of time after purchasing their camera's...Sony does't do this anymore so peace out Sony!!!!!
@RiceCubeTech
@RiceCubeTech Жыл бұрын
The A1 costing almost double what the rest of the cameras cost is ridiculous
@thomaspalmer5098
@thomaspalmer5098 Жыл бұрын
Firmware support is a nice bonus, but with Sony I expect only what the camera features on day one. But I think an update is coming nonetheless, to put the creator app, and they will add focus breathing compensation too
@Donbros
@Donbros Жыл бұрын
That one def. I would also expect anamorphic desqueze since its extremely easy to add (and it works for both video and photo), true 24p. Cinema 4k and shutter angle (if it will even happen) probably not but i would be happy for it
@AllCarsUnited
@AllCarsUnited Жыл бұрын
Though focus breathing isn't a update it's a half-assed bandaid to a massive design flaw in what's supposed to their top of the line lenses. Focus breathing should never be acceptable in a high end lens
@LY3355
@LY3355 Жыл бұрын
I want to premise with the fact that I agree with all your concerns on this one and the previous video which I just watched… But this development by Sony and many people’s reaction, makes me realize that I never though Sony, who is the most innovative company in the camera business, would be complained due to the fore mentioned innovation, and wanting to introduce the technology of the flagships and trickle it down to their cheaper cameras. I feel in a way, we have accepted the way the industry camera brands have always kept the best technologies in the flagship to reward those and give pebbles to the lower end models. (I say this as I understand. Unfair to pay for a flagship model, just to be upended by a lower end in the next year or cycle). What it teaches me - from your issue is that I need to hold off and maybe other users, on buying the flagships right away. But I do like that they provide even the lower end models with some of their innovation. I don’t want innovation to stop. It has allowed so many good products to exist. I don’t mind your negativity against it. Is a lot of money. I unfortunately see both sides. I hope that Sony can think about providing support to those flagships. Especially the A1. Thank you for your video.
@DavidOastler
@DavidOastler Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment
@LY3355
@LY3355 Жыл бұрын
@@DavidOastler 👍
@BHUBJOHNNY
@BHUBJOHNNY Жыл бұрын
The 8K might be limited on the A1, because it’s using the slower CF express type A cards. Sony need to start adding Type B slots or else they will be hindered with additional capabilities in terms of throughputs.
@yohannsphotographyvideogra9542
@yohannsphotographyvideogra9542 Жыл бұрын
That’s probably their next move screwing the A1 users for more gimmicks like slot B
@renestaempfli1071
@renestaempfli1071 Жыл бұрын
Never had a throughput probmlem with my A1. I only use CFexpress cards.
@Bo_Hazem
@Bo_Hazem Жыл бұрын
I don't think so, mate. The CFExpress Type A can make 1200Mbps which is more than enough for up to 8K@120fps or even @240fps real time H.265. Only All-Intra S&Q will be limited.
@Donbros
@Donbros Жыл бұрын
Sorry but you will have to face the reality: you are talking pure nonsense. Type a card are great. I don’t care for those type b if i need more storage outside type a i would buy atomos ninja at that point
@scottclark1455
@scottclark1455 Жыл бұрын
I'm using v90 sd cards with 8k fine right now. Recording proxies simultaneously gives me instant editing capability as well. I know they couldn't employ compressed raw video due to Red, but giving people a raw dng option to cf express or porting out to ssd would have been nice. Lot's of storage would result, but there are many who would use it, especially if there was a mini port out to ssd. It's 2023, raw video should be commonplace.
@AmisCorolla
@AmisCorolla Жыл бұрын
don't forget a9ii still one of the most expensive sony camera and last update was 2021...
@thegeneral123
@thegeneral123 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if Sony realise how annoyed much of the community is? Being an old fashioned and quite arrogant Japanese company, I think perhaps they don't listen to the non Japanese market? I didn't even bother updating to firmware 2.0 yet on my A7IV as it seems to only add compatibility with the new camera app. It would be great if someone with access to Sony higher ups could directly pose the question about the lack of meaningful firmware updates.
@paulchiu
@paulchiu Жыл бұрын
David, what PP are you using for this video? S-Cinetone? Very natural and deep blacks!
@DavidOastler
@DavidOastler Жыл бұрын
Just the standard profile used here
@fxstudioro
@fxstudioro Жыл бұрын
Well this was to be expected looking back on the a9 and a9ii situation, and also the a7riv that recived minor bugs and fixes, when it could have, had at least 4k 50p/60p, aslo the a7siii should of got at least the features of the a7iv. In the coming years i belive that cameras will be more like phones and the winner will be the one who has the most software support! Don't get me wrong i like sony but they are kind of going the canon road! They are literally telling all pro users this is what you get if you want a new feature.... well buy an other camera, wich is a shitty thing to do, yeah maybe it would be a reduction in sales on the short run. But they are pushing new cameras like crazy and with incremental software upgrades and some little hardware upgrades wichi is more like a revision of the same camera (eg. A7riv and a7rv where the rV has gotten 4k50/60p, and 8k, lets say the 8k would be a problem and also the new ai focus but 4k 50/60p is just a software limitation! I'm verry pissed about this! Also have the a7siii witch should have the features of the fx3, ok maybe not all but like the latest update should have come to the a7siii as its the same internals as an fx3 just withiout the active cooling and different body stiyle.... I feel like sony and canon are digging there own graves and brands like blackmagic, panasonic, nikon and fuji are coming for they'r demographics!
@DavidOastler
@DavidOastler Жыл бұрын
I totally agree
@mattricci2981
@mattricci2981 Жыл бұрын
You’re right I paid $7000 and no updates
@brois841
@brois841 Жыл бұрын
Sony lists the FX3 as a "Cinema Camera" while the A7SIII is a "Interchangeable Lens Camera" same as A7 III, etc. Point is, you can't just say "I know they market them differently, but they still need to support the same thing on both platforms." Well... do they? Just because the A7SIII does do video well and you get that additional feature as part of the Digital Camera, it doesn't mean they have to support it with Cinema features in a non-Cinema camera. You want your cake and eat it too. I get it. However, you're not owed an update, if the camera did what you got it for and still does it, then what's the complaint? I also want my stuff supported forever, for free, we all do.... but we're also realistic. Also, maybe they plan on releasing some updates or the A7SIII, but it's taking time? So many unknowns, but the complaining at times sounds childish, if I'm to be honest.
@DavidOastler
@DavidOastler Жыл бұрын
Well if you look at most of the comments we all don’t agree with you
@brois841
@brois841 Жыл бұрын
@@DavidOastler selection bias
@maradonamartin9870
@maradonamartin9870 Жыл бұрын
sony make me to throw my A1 to the brick wall so i can get warranty claim in refund my money and get fx6 instead....
@WildExposures
@WildExposures Жыл бұрын
It's not that Sony can't update the A1, its that it's looking like they just not going too........
@RealTechGeek
@RealTechGeek Жыл бұрын
Furthermore what really really irrates me that at least the A7RIII A7III have support for Sony LAEA5. It is ridiculous just A6600 A7RIV etc. So many minolta A mount lens holders out there also including me...
@mautl4865
@mautl4865 Жыл бұрын
This is simply disappointing for the Alpha users
@denizahmet2299
@denizahmet2299 Жыл бұрын
I see 3 likely reasons: 1 - The A1 update is pending the release of the A9III so that these competing models can be harmonised. 2 - The A1 just didn't meet sales expectations so there is no commercial desire to support it further. 3 - The A7Siii has been strategically replaced with the FX series.
@longrider9551
@longrider9551 Жыл бұрын
Im a heartbeat from skipping to Canon, Sony has till the summer to make this right and then im gone
@GrayGhostDog1
@GrayGhostDog1 Жыл бұрын
This might be the 2nd time I’ve heard you say this, but the A1 is not the only Sony hybrid camera that can shoot 8K…
@DavidOastler
@DavidOastler Жыл бұрын
What is the other one?
@coloradovideochannel
@coloradovideochannel Жыл бұрын
@@DavidOastler A7rv(24p only)
@DavidOastler
@DavidOastler Жыл бұрын
Yes I meant 4K 60
@airsoftshadows
@airsoftshadows Жыл бұрын
Would you like to talk about my problem with A7sIII and Sony support team?
@Monik74nina
@Monik74nina Жыл бұрын
Buenos días maravilloso video, estoy completamente de acuerdo contigo yo tengo la sony a1 Y he tenido muchos problemas el primer mes no funcionaba la WiFi tuvo que pasar por el Sat ahora después de un año tiene problemas con las ópticas y ruido excesivo a parte no han sacado ninguna actualización y la sony a7rv es mucho mejor en tema enfoque y foto y más económica, podrían sacar las mejoras con alguna actualización porqué los procesadores son los mismos muchos usuarios de la A1 estamos decepcionados con sony hice esa inversión pensando que habría actualizaciones se come ta que no habrá nos dejan tirados y sacan una A2 se portaron bien con la A9 que sacaron una buena actualización jamas volveré a comparar una Camara de esta gama y llevo 5 años con sony valoro incluso volver a Nikon Sony debería de cuidar a sus clientes y más los fieles que en otros equipos llevo desde hace 40años con sony
@DavidOastler
@DavidOastler Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment I wish I could read it though as I only read English
@bradsimpson4899
@bradsimpson4899 Жыл бұрын
David, I'm considering moving over to Nikon (depending on the Reviews of the Z8 when it comes out). Do you ever have thoughts of leaving Sony for Nikon or Cannon because of Sony's lack of loyalty to their customers?
@DavidOastler
@DavidOastler Жыл бұрын
I would certainly consider it.
@nyambe
@nyambe Жыл бұрын
I don't see it that way mate. I think cameras in general are going the way of the dodo bird. Most of the people I see now in youtube are shooting pet projects anyway. People that do client work are not affected as much. That Grumpy dp is still using his FS5 and happy with it. I think Sony is just trying to survive.
@4EverBergen
@4EverBergen Жыл бұрын
Me vs Sony Sony: Let's update the Fx3 and Fx30. Me: Hey what about my A7s3???😢😢 Sony: Don't worry. We got the A7s4 and A1 M2 for you to buy😅 Me: Bye bye Sony. Hallo Nikon and Megadap 🤝
@DavidOastler
@DavidOastler Жыл бұрын
It’s crazy
@mikehunt5626
@mikehunt5626 Жыл бұрын
Yes I agree David. I feel that Sony has abandoned me with updates. I payed 9 grand for my a1 and i feel like Sony just left me behind. I moved to Sony when the a100 came out (was a rubbish camera but I still have it) then moved onto the a77, a99 and the a6000 (still love that thing). Now I have the a7s (original) a7iii - a9 and the a1. I am very annoyed and The only advantage I have is that the a1 is my last body, It will do me till I die. Come on Sony, Do the right thing and fix this please.
@cesarlomibao2662
@cesarlomibao2662 Жыл бұрын
I agree!!!!!
@ernstmeyer1783
@ernstmeyer1783 Жыл бұрын
FirmwareUpdate Alpha 1 ? ? ? 8K - 60 Fps, Stabi, VideoTracking ? ? ?
@NiclasNilsson89
@NiclasNilsson89 Жыл бұрын
Holding back on FW updates to make the new cameras more attractive. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot here.
@tonybrown91a
@tonybrown91a Жыл бұрын
I was going to wait for the A1mkII, but I don't think I'll be buying another top of the range Sony. I have no issues in keeping my Sony gear and going to another manufacturer, if they have what I would like, and look after their customers. Just as the camera companies have no loyalty to their customers, why should we have loyalty to them? Thanks for the video.
@DavidOastler
@DavidOastler Жыл бұрын
Yes I agree
@tor2919
@tor2919 Жыл бұрын
I wonder whether the cinema line of cameras just have a different department working on only those cameras. All the cinema line cameras are usually quite well updated. The Alpha line not so much
@DavidOastler
@DavidOastler Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t thinks so
@jcben
@jcben Жыл бұрын
Fuji used to add features to their old cameras but have completely stopped, I suppose they also figured out that selling new cameras with barely incremental updates is hard when you are known for adding newer updates to old cameras. I personally will buy the A7R V because it has the features I'm looking for but I totally avoided A7riii and A7RIV because they were not better enough than my A7rii.
@NorCal-yeti
@NorCal-yeti Жыл бұрын
I am so happy with my A7R5 purchase ✌️✌️👌😎
@quentondaniels8536
@quentondaniels8536 Жыл бұрын
Next in line for me. Selling my A7Riv to get one, again with the lack of firmware upgrades on that.
@NorCal-yeti
@NorCal-yeti Жыл бұрын
@@quentondaniels8536 that is exactly what I did with Adorama. The autofocus alone is worth it. You won't regret it. Plus your a7riv is at it's highest resale value.
@quentondaniels8536
@quentondaniels8536 Жыл бұрын
@@NorCal-yeti - I’m in Australia, so not really a chance for me. I’ll get as high as I can and have savings ready for the extra to buy it.
@NorCal-yeti
@NorCal-yeti Жыл бұрын
@@quentondaniels8536 why does everything cost so much more there? That has to be so frustrating!
@BaylonTV
@BaylonTV Жыл бұрын
While being virtually identical cameras, The A7siii and FX3 have completely different use cases in my experience. I see the FX3 being used a lot as b-cam, c-cam, and a crash cam for productions shooting with a Venice or FX6/9. The a7siii is marketed to youtubers and content creators, and it is great for that application. I understand your frustration, but I don't blame them for reserving "cinema" features for the FX and Venice line.
@SanjaySchulz
@SanjaySchulz Жыл бұрын
The ZVE-1 is also marketed to youtubers and content creators but it has almost all the cinema features the FX3 got with the 2.0 firmware while it is also $1,300 cheaper than the A7SIII.
@vznrylv
@vznrylv Жыл бұрын
This is one of the most backwards statements I’ve ever read.
@AllCarsUnited
@AllCarsUnited Жыл бұрын
It's only that way because they did it after the a7s3. Up to that point the a7s3 WAS the Bcam.
@ryanmcnulty8323
@ryanmcnulty8323 Жыл бұрын
FW came out in May for the A1
@DavidOastler
@DavidOastler Жыл бұрын
It didn’t add much at all
@BeyondtheMovingPictureStudios
@BeyondtheMovingPictureStudios Жыл бұрын
Isn't the A1 a professional photography camera? Fx3 is slowly becoming a cinema B camera through firmware updates. The A series have always been dedicated to hybrid mix mirrorless cameras. I just don't see the issue.
@DavidOastler
@DavidOastler Жыл бұрын
The a1 is the only camera with 8k video. The a7s3 is a video canera
@daycreek
@daycreek Жыл бұрын
I still have the A1 but bought a Z9 and use the ETZ21 adapter to use it will all my Sony lenses. I do primarily video, some stills and find the options on the Z9 for video to be much more appealing. Sony used to provide meaningful updates to their high-end cameras and I expected this with the A1. Very disappointed in Sony and have given up all hope for a meaningful update. Time to move on.
@simonomis5246
@simonomis5246 Жыл бұрын
Shame on Sony!!! A1 user here!
@M4TR1X
@M4TR1X Жыл бұрын
So at the end, Nikon or Canon..?
@DavidOastler
@DavidOastler Жыл бұрын
Not sure lol
@emilvacek610
@emilvacek610 Жыл бұрын
Fully agree with you!! B
@iamwhatiam6281
@iamwhatiam6281 11 ай бұрын
sony was famous for its aggressive vision since their first products. they push hard and occupy all the channels in tv ads. they force the market and the costumera to buy every year the latests products.. nothing is changed, because all the factories push in the same direction because we are consumers and the longevity of a product is bad for their profits.. the problem is that we can’t buy new stuff (gears cars tablets phones) every year. I’m happy just because during the last world athletics championships (budapest ‘23) I saw getty images photographers (and from other agencies), still working with nikon d5. that means: the product longevity is incredible, and that even the best photographers in their field, don’t vaste money in new gear
@DavidOastler
@DavidOastler 11 ай бұрын
I agree
@frankfurter7260
@frankfurter7260 Жыл бұрын
Stop apologizing or giving warnings for your opinions. Just give your honest, unsponsored, un-Sony ambassador opinion. Why would I possibly mind if your opinion differs than mine. 🙄 Though in this case is doesn’t. 😉
@Monik74nina
@Monik74nina Жыл бұрын
Good morning wonderful video, I completely agree with you I have the sony a1 And I have had many problems the first month the WiFi did not work had to go through the Sat now after a year it has problems with the optics and excessive noise aside they have not no update has been released and the sony a7rv is much better in terms of focus and photography and cheaper, they could get the improvements with some update because the processors are the same many users of the A1 are disappointed with sony I made that investment thinking that there would be updates it will come so that there will be no they leave us stranded and they take out an A2 they behaved well with the A9 that they took out a good update I will never compare a Camera of this range again and I have been with Sony for 5 years I value even going back to Nikon Sony should take care of its customers and More the faithful than in other teams I have been with Sony for 40 years
@DavidOastler
@DavidOastler Жыл бұрын
Yes it’s not good enough
@riotrob
@riotrob Жыл бұрын
I’ve purchased 3 canon cameras since purchasing my a1. I’m not necessarily waiting on any type of firmware update, however, the a9iii better hit it out of the park, else I may end up all canon. And it better come sooner rather than later. No more vlog cameras. 😠
@constantinephotography5287
@constantinephotography5287 Жыл бұрын
Again…very much agree. I voted with my wallet and have completed the move away from Sony because of the lack of camera support. I want to be able to use a flagship camera for at least 5 years and have full support from the manufacturer. This is intentionally crippling the flagship in order to push people to keep buying more bodies.
@jshutzman
@jshutzman Жыл бұрын
Not surprising. Tesla sometimes do the same. Update software on models 3/y way before s/x which cost double the price. FX30 sells tons of cameras so Dollar wise it is the cash cow for Sony (just like 3/y for Tesla). The a1 and 7siii are niche market (like s/x). With due time, Sony would equate the field and the higher paying customers would get their share.
@WeMakingMoviesBaby
@WeMakingMoviesBaby Жыл бұрын
A7s3 forsale here . Cannon r5c here i come. Im done with this garbage ..
@trystwithlight
@trystwithlight Жыл бұрын
stupid on Sony's part to abandon its flagship cameras
@JustinSpencers
@JustinSpencers Жыл бұрын
Wow! I can't believe how poorly Sony are treating their big spending customers, it's bizzare. I used to think I was invested with Sony now I think I'm stuck with them. Feels like we've been conned. I won't be switching brands anytime soon but I'm certainly not giving Sony anymore cash until they win back my trust.
@RobNotANumber
@RobNotANumber Жыл бұрын
Time for Nikon ?
@ScaleDreamsStudio
@ScaleDreamsStudio Жыл бұрын
Wasn’t the A1 introduced as a sports photographers camera and not so much as a videographers camera?
@DavidOastler
@DavidOastler Жыл бұрын
No it is a hybrid camera it has 8k video
@ScaleDreamsStudio
@ScaleDreamsStudio Жыл бұрын
@@DavidOastler OK I was just wondering is all
@WildExposures
@WildExposures Жыл бұрын
this guy is so wrong, it has 8K, 4K 120 fps, and all it needs is the track wildlife like the menu shows.
@RealTechGeek
@RealTechGeek Жыл бұрын
New models incoming very soon lmao 🤣 that's why I buy 5 to 7 year old Sony cameras not gonna allow myself to get screwed. I'm very interested to see what Sony brings out for the new gig high end rumored for years Sony A7000. That's also why I use two camera systems and going to be a third one soon Sony and Canon currently. Fujifilm is next.
@CO8848_2
@CO8848_2 Жыл бұрын
FX30, that seems the type of cameras you want to buy in the future, fx30 a7iv and forget the best models.
@DavidOastler
@DavidOastler Жыл бұрын
I agree
@billx4266
@billx4266 Жыл бұрын
A7RV also shoots 8K
@utopian666
@utopian666 Жыл бұрын
Your audio is ultra quiet by the way.
@DavidOastler
@DavidOastler Жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting me know
@utopian666
@utopian666 Жыл бұрын
@@DavidOastler No worries!
@woseleyjordan
@woseleyjordan Жыл бұрын
Just not cricket
@sunset5163
@sunset5163 Жыл бұрын
Sony want you to buy new camera.
@ThePandaPhotographer
@ThePandaPhotographer Жыл бұрын
So shame and Sony going back to its A-mount way again
@DavidOastler
@DavidOastler Жыл бұрын
Yes they are
@Donbros
@Donbros Жыл бұрын
This is kind pf bullshit lean me towards selling asiii and buying fx6 but i do like compact form of it and that it has viewfinder for quick checks. For me a7siii is extremely better than fx3 if not those uodates. Fx6 is another beast. Are those people weird or smth 4:30 i have never got a7siii overheat not even once not even on 35 degrees celcius summer day. Thise people need to check their sanity by saying such things!
@DavidOastler
@DavidOastler Жыл бұрын
It’s never happened to me
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