Sony PXW Z200 - a Cinematic 4K AI camera?

[@VisualsCoUk]

Sony PXW-Z200 Sample Footage - Slog3, S-Cinetone, 709tone kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2Lce4aEfKeLr9U

[@Louphotos]

I almost pulled the trigger on the Canon XF 605 but since this z200 come out I am definitely going to pick it up because I am so heavily invested into Sony I am familiar with the camera menus. This will be great for the race coverage I do for ATV and dirt bike racing in the woods

[@VisualsCoUk]

I think the stabilization and variable ND will make it perfect for action type videos, I think the Z200 is a better choice indeed.

[@frank-xp6pj]

But can it record at 4k@60fps for fast moving subjects ? If not what’s the use of spending so much money just to shoot 1080p@60fps ? I have the Sony fdr-ax53 & I would love to upgrade but I’m waiting for Sony to upgrade the AX53 with a camcorder that can shoot 4k@60fps…..my Sony looks great shooting 1080p@60fps but I’m picky when it comes to a camcorder that can shoot 4k@60fps….it has to have great stabilization just like my AX53 does…..all my Dragracing videos on my channel are shot with my Sony FDR-AX53 in 1080p@60fps for Dragracing, in my opinion any type of panning needs to be shot in 60fps & not 24 or 30fps.

[@AridersLifeYT]

@@frank-xp6pj this can do 4k 120fps

[@steakandsanity]

This looks like it would be an amazing studio camera for a KZbin or podcast.

[@VisualsCoUk]

agreed

[@milesfranklyn]

IM SO EXCITED FOR THIS CAMERA MAN

[@frank-xp6pj]

Okay I just read up on these camcorders & found out they do shoot 4k@60fps BUT why does all the reviews only show samples of 1080 & 4k shoots only in 24 or 30 fps & only show footage of a lake, some flowers or anything pretty much stationary…..I wanna see footage of these camcorders in real life action situations just like another person in these comments say they record auto cross racing etc….we wanna see 4k@60fps footage from these camcorders.

[@VisualsCoUk]

maybe next time we get the camera for more than a day we'll get some.

[@DokoGaTV]

Thanks for this great breakdown of the Z200! Never thought I’d want a camcorder after investing in a bunch of A7 cams. The footage looks great!

[@VisualsCoUk]

Thanks for watching, the Z200 is a different beast , but with the bigger sensor, now feels very capable of some 'non-camcordery footage' if that's even a thing :)

[@DokoGaTV]

@@VisualsCoUk Oh that's definitely a thing, lol! Was thinking the same thing when watching the release video announcements and your video. It looks pretty close to the A7 cams. So stoked!

[@davidkuria6463]

😊 Thank you so much for the excellent review of the Z200! It's the only camcorder that I'll be buying for sure

[@davidaltizer]

silly question, but can it take photos? if it does, any chance it takes raw images?

[@VisualsCoUk]

not a silly question at all - I don't believe so, it wasn't in the specs I saw.

[@smrutiarts]

Hi, Great review of the features of this new camera. I have just a small question. While changing the White Balance via the quick menu 08:06 does it only change the while balance mode from Preset/A/B like the Z150 or can we also change the temperature on the fly like the Z190 without going into Full Menu. Thanks in advance

[@VisualsCoUk]

I think you can do this in the Quick Menu (via single press of Menu button), in the Quick Menu as in the video, you can only switch between Presets/A/B . I dont have the camera with me so I can't confirm, hope this helps.

[@aceonweb]

New run and gun champion. Only thing that looks slightly weird is how you would shoulder this camera... or is it just meant to be held in front of you.

[@VisualsCoUk]

I'd say these style camcorders are not really meant to be carried on the shoulder -more of a tripod or handheld style.

[@Shadow_Li]

I love this camera

[@VisualsCoUk]

So do we.

[@asafblasbergvideographer]

Why did SONY get rid of the third IRIS ring? We only have Focus/Zoom rings now.

[@TheFandangovideoguy]

ah? I didnt notice that...I need the Iris ring! I use it the most with my old Canon XF300....oh...

[@devangshah123]

+1 this question

[@VisualsCoUk]

I'd image it was to keep the price more affordable. 3 independent rings would be idea, but I found the IRIS dial on the side to be quite useful and do the job.

[@Reckimedia]

Hello. Is 120 fps available as a regular framerate or only in S&Q? Thank you so much for previewing this camera!

[@VisualsCoUk]

only in SQ I believe. I don't have access to the demo camera anymore, but if I recall correctly 120fps is SQ.

[@mark_barrentine]

@@VisualsCoUk That would be disappointing as my HXR-NX80 can record 120fps in 1080p with sound. So in post I can either playback at realtime speed or slow it down for the slow motion effect.

[@richvid9814]

Can this camera output SDI and HDMI simultaneously like the Panasonic AG-CX350. When I do conference gigs, they take my SDI feed and I have my 8 inch camera monitor hooked up via HDMI.

[@VisualsCoUk]

Yes you can output via both HDMI and SDI, in the menu section of the video towards the middle around the 7:16 mark you can see me going through the output configuration. kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4C5fIp6ft6SgsUsi=d3VTsXKutIC6RYEZ&t=436

[@richvid9814]

@@VisualsCoUk Thanks for the info

[@TheFandangovideoguy]

So is this Sony's answer to Canon XF605? I can't wait for a direct comparison...I use mostly Sony FX30 cameras in S-Cinetone so this could be a good match...but I would love to see a comparison against the XF605. I still use my old Canon XF300 camcorders for some live events.

[@CarlosTorres-hi6si]

Congratulations on the review, I was looking forward to that camera. I would like to know if PXW Z200 is more sensitive in low light than PXW Z90 - HXR NX80. Will it have any improvement in noise reduction? I have a HXR NX80 and feel it is a great camera, I was thinking of buying PXW Z90 but felt it was missing more features. I was tempted by Canon XF605 but being more of a SONY user I think it was worth the wait. Greetings from Lima Peru

[@VisualsCoUk]

Hey Carlos, thanks for watching, appreciate it. I have not compared these models, but from my recent experience with the new Z200, I'd say it will be more sensitive and with better DR than the NX80 and Z90. It's a next gen sensor with better processing.

[@cameraheadstudios]

glad people are talking about camcorder again.

[@AlexDiazVideo]

Hopefully this is a silly question in 2024, but coming from a Z150 I must ask because it can never be assumed, can it record 4k and display on the flip out screen and an external monitor at the same time?

[@VisualsCoUk]

this is a legit question, and yes it can record 4K internally and output a 4K image via SDI, since it's 12G, you can also output a 4K image via HDMI. By 4K I mean UHD 3840 x 2160. Hope this helps,

[@remektekmedia6641]

A feature rich replacement for the Canon XF605, however I was not taken by the colour science of the footage. I expect that it can be improved with the use of LUTs and PP.

[@christopherwood1668]

Do you know what the aperture breakdown is - at 1x it's f2.8 and at 20x it's f4.5. At what mm's does the aperture change? For instance at 85mm, what's the aperture?

[@VisualsCoUk]

Good question, I dont have the demo camera with my anymore, so I can't say the exact breakdown (the specs I was given also do not have this listed), but if I recall from memory, it ramps up from 1/3 way in, and at 85mm you're looking at f3.5 thereabouts. Don't quote me on that though. If I manage to get the demo camera back to shoot some more with it, i'll get back to you with more specifics. Thanks for watching.

[@christopherwood1668]

@@VisualsCoUk I appreciate it! Thank you

[@ChroniclesofGhoul]

Can the side handle be rotated?

[@VisualsCoUk]

very good question, I can't be sure as I didn't try it.

[@timpolster]

Hello, thanks for your review. Could you say if the menu has a full suite of color correction options? Mainly if it has the individual saturation & hue adjustments per color tone. Thanks.

[@VisualsCoUk]

Hi Tim, in custom mode there are Paint settings, however I have not dug into them. However, given that this is a PWX camcorder, I think its safe to say you can paint the image for multicam setups and intercut safely.

[@timpolster]

@@VisualsCoUk Ok thank you.

[@vlcheish]

1080p upload and no showing off night mode? Come on bro!

[@VisualsCoUk]

Yes, night mode is something I did not get a chance to demo, which is a miss on my end. Should I get my hands on the camera again, I'll post an update.

[@emilytvmusic]

is this camera able to use a fisheye adapter?

[@VisualsCoUk]

Yes, the lens hood is removable, you can use a fisheye adapter.

[@PyRoblaser]

It doesn't talk anything about S-Log 3 profile anywhere except on your video, even on Sony's website.

[@VisualsCoUk]

S-Gammut3.Cine/S-Log3 is included some of this footage was shot using this profile, it was in the demo version of the camera I tested. I'm pretty sure it was a production version.

[@luciebloem9150]

Elle filme pas en 4k la Z200 ??? Un peu dommage de la présenter en 1080p ..Tout le monde ne regarde pas les vidéo KZbin sur un 6" de smartphone

[@caramelice5399]

Can it be powered with a PD Power bank?

[@VisualsCoUk]

not to my knowledge, you need 19.5V

[@mark_barrentine]

From the spec sheet - "Battery - Yes (Available with USB Type-C Terminal. USB Power Delivery compatible)"

[@coastmale]

youre wrong about the rolling shutter. its better in 4k120 at equivalent focal lengths. otherwise it would not be possible to do 4k 120fps

[@VisualsCoUk]

I disgree here. The processor has to do much more work in 120fps, and the skew is visibly worse. Maybe it's just me, either way, the rolling shutter is not an issue on this camera at all.

[@coastmale]

@@VisualsCoUk I am telling you you are factually wrong. Its literally reading out less pixels and as a result its reading them at a faster rate. You can even test this. Set the camera (if you still have it I know they're usually press loaners) to 4k 120 and 4k60 but have the same equivalent focal length. So youll have to go a bit wider on the 4k120. And you'll see less visible skewing. you're only noticing the skew more due to the crop zooming into the lines making the pace at which they move faster causing more visible skew. At an equivalent focal length it wont be as visible in 4k120. Also from a technical standpoint for the camera to even grab 120 frames without black out the minimum readout should be faster than 1/120th of a second. Which is about 8.33 ms of rolling shutter. For 60fps its 1/60th of a second, so 16.67ms. if you're correct and there's less rolling shutter at 4k60 than at 4k120 then the full sensor should be able to read out 120fps. The reason for the crop is that the full sensor cannot read out as fast as 8.33 ms so it crops into a 4k region that can. The processor doesnt cause rolling shutter, its the sensor itself that has that spec. As such a crop is faster because it needs to read out less pixels. As such rolling shutter is better in 4k120 than in 4k60

[@chinitopinoy1726]

Put that sensor in a Sony RX10 V and I'll buy for $2000!

[@RandumbTech]

I’m debating buying the RX10 IV because the rumors are that production has stopped and there will be no successor. Did you have any info on a new version coming soon?

[@lakshmanmudiraj8788]

Price

[@VisualsCoUk]

You can see pricing here: www.visuals.co.uk/sony-pxw-z200-4k-hdr-ai-camera-20x-zoom-s-cinetone.html

[@satishsiddani8884]

Price details... Please

[@VisualsCoUk]

You can see the price on our website: www.visuals.co.uk/sony-z200-nx800.html

[@shem44]

Wondering if this cam is the successor to z150 or z190? How's the low light? Z190 is terrible in that regard.

[@VisualsCoUk]

I'd say the z190. Given the bigger 1-inch sensor in the Z200, low-light performance has been substantially improved. I didn't get a chance to shoot much low-light with it, but in the studio I didn't have to push it at all with very minimal lighting. A couple of 1x1 Litepanels and a small Aputure 200x.

[@nightdonutstudio]

We can estimate. 1 inch sesnor is half the size of m4/3 sensor. m4/3 sensor like gh6 gh7 perform well up to iso 3200 in vlog. So this camcorder should perform well up to iso 1600.

[@TheFandangovideoguy]

@@nightdonutstudio hmm...I know it's unfair to compare the 1" sensor against a APSC- forget full frame...ISO 1600 sounds low...what's that in GAIN? I never got used to ISOs...I try not go use my camcorders over +6db gain

[@cecilioromo7587]

What about low light shooting??? A bit dodgy not mentioning such a crucial aspect tbh 🤔

[@VisualsCoUk]

I did mention it's a 1 inch sensor. Would perform much better than smaller sensors, but don't expect S35 or FF performance. It also depends on your definition of "low light". All the studio shots had minimal lighting with only a soft key (Aputure 200x with a lantern) and a 1x1 LED, didn't see any issues with noise. Hope this helps,

[@cecilioromo7587]

@@VisualsCoUk For the sensor size I can read the specs on their website. I mean actually looking at footage shot at night or not with studio lighting.

[@VisualsCoUk]

if I get a chance to get the demo camera from Sony again soon, I'll do a part 2 with low-light shots, night vision, and other features I did not get a chance to explore in this video.

[@cecilioromo7587]

@@VisualsCoUk That would be great! Cheers!

[@mikeconcannon2]

Agreed, low light performance will be very important for the users of this type of camera

[@KoiAquaponics]

im shocked that they can't squeeze a larger sensor inside this huge ass body frame.

[@VisualsCoUk]

they probably could, but would this be necessary? There's quite a few other cameras with full-frame sensors (and interchangeable lenses) it's a different market segment and target base.

[@KoiAquaponics]

@@VisualsCoUk what industry is this aimed at

[@mark_barrentine]

I suppose so, but then you wouldn't have a 20X zoom (more like 10X or less). To cover sporting events, concerts, and other live events it's more important that I have zoom coverage rather than video quality. Also I was reminded the 1" sensor produces a larger DOF which is important for fast moving action shots to keep the subject in focus.

[@AridersLifeYT]

the video doesnt look as crisp as say an Sony RX10 Mk3

[@danvuxuanhoa]

compare with flaship canon xf605, both new sony can't win !

[@iamalexchua]

To answer the title, no, it cannot.

[@VisualsCoUk]

will there every be one that could? :)

[@iamalexchua]

@@VisualsCoUk of course not. If that happens, no one will buy cameras anymore.

[@paulloth]

Nice Video...but the Title is Clickbait

[@AshtamiStageProgram]

It would be better if you could tell me how much the price can be in Kolkata

[@VisualsCoUk]

You can see the price on our website: www.visuals.co.uk/sony-z200-nx800.html