Sony ZV-E1 vs DJI Osmo Pocket 3 | Which is the better camera for travel?

[@MikeBSalazar]

Great comparison. I don’t think I ever want to buy ultra wide lens again for vlogging . Just use the DJI Osmo pocket. This thing practically runs all day with the expanded battery.

[@NikoBols]

Really? Given a choice, I’d still go for the mirrorless camera + ultra wide lens combo. But…kids…hahaha. For the Osmo Pocket 3, not only does it have a battery pack, it also charges so fast!

[@MikeBSalazar]

I just came back from the Sony event filming in 4k. The battery pack finished and still had like 80-90% left on the osmo itself. Crazy. But yes, can appreciate the mirrorless bodies for sure. I suppose maybe only two cameras at most haha.@@NikoBols

[@NikoBols]

@@MikeBSalazar Hahaha. That depends. If we're going swimming, I need an underwater camera...plus I always bring the X3...Hahahaha.

[@mattpna]

Love your channel buddy ! Always very interesting topics ! Keep going !

[@NikoBols]

Thanks Matt! Appreciate it! 🙏

[@ScottsReviews]

The FF wins in skin tone look. ❤. I have both and was wondering if I would sell the zve1. Hmmm.

[@NikoBols]

I know I wouldn’t 🙂 I love my ZV-E1 and I see both cameras having a place in my work flow.

[@HansWurst-iq9xe]

Fullframe vs min? ZVE1 is allways better!

[@SeanHuangRealEstate]

I have both cameras too and I agree with you. For family vacations your focus would be your family, therefore the OP3 is a much better choice.

[@NikoBols]

Exactly 👍

[@JPRGlobal]

Osmo has the better image quality when you walked outside. Sone footage was all blown out

[@NikoBols]

You talking about the Normal color profile? Yes, highlights were blown out bad when I exposed for my face on the Sony.

[@samiiromaar]

But that has to do with how the setting were . In a way the convenience and trust you can place on the pockets auto is great. But there's no comparing the dynamic range and possibilities of a full frame in terms of looks.

[@NikoBols]

@@samiiromaar of course. To be honest, I always shoot in SLog3 with my ZV-E1. I just did this for this comparison.

[@jaymills1720]

User error without a question. ND filter? ISO settings? Silly claim

[@LucilleDunn33]

At just 500 bucks, the Pocket3 holds its own against the $2,000 full-frame camera in terms of image quality. It's pretty darn impressive!

[@NikoBols]

Yes, it does. 🙂

[@DigiDriftZone]

I looked more into this: - Osmo3 is 20mm f/5.4 equiv - iPhone 15Pro main camera is 24mm f/6.3 equiv (1.2x focal length, 1.17x aperture, so more or less same depth of field / light gathering) - ZV-E1 with 20mm f/2.8 gives you 4x the light gathering and shallow depth of field (and flexility to use even faster lenses) So compared to the iPhone 15Pro, the Osmo 3 gives you a wider image with physical stabilisation with more or less the same depth of field and low light performance. You can match this performance on the ZV-E1 by setting the lens to f/5.4.

[@CLVlogs05]

You need to stop the full frame f equivalent nonsense narrative. It is not actually like that, because of people like you photographer move like from APSC to full frame expecting to get the so mentioned additional stops of light just to get disappointed

[@DigiDriftZone]

@@CLVlogs05 Who's getting disappointed? - What's nonsense? - it's basic physics, you can't get the same number of photons hitting the sensor on an f/2.8 lens on a phone sensor as an f/2.8 lens on medium format. Not calculating equivalence is like forgetting to convert miles to kilometres when calculating distance on different systems. I wasted so much time on APS-C trying to get faster huge and heavy lenses and still being disappointed by the performance. It absolutely works like that, you are getting 1.5x more light gathering all else being equal going from APS-C to full frame, so less noise in low light, you can shoot at higher shutter speeds and get much better results on f/4 zoom lenses on full frame compares to big/heavy/expensive f/2.8 zooms on APS-C, by quite some margin (and that's before you start using full frame f/2.8 zooms and f/1.8 primes). Understanding this difference can save you a huge amount of time and money. I shrunk my gear size, saved money and all of my images and video are drastically better by going to full frame for my use case. I recorded a short video about it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3u8hK1qorBsa7s

[@CLVlogs05]

I cant tel you how Sony is desiginting their lenses and sneosr, but this has already being debunked in practically you don't get as much light as everyobody mentiones when you go from aspc to full frame. I;ve own both cameras and can tell you the same. is not even close to 2 times the stop of the same equivalent on apsc. More light yeah, but not as the math people mention suggest. @@DigiDriftZone

[@DigiDriftZone]

@@CLVlogs05 I don't know what you are talking about, the maths is very straightforward and very well understood, just like you can't debunk converting from miles to km, you can't debunk this. Anyone that claimed to have "debunked" this simply forgot to apply the calculations to ISO, rookie mistake.

[@pureheartvisuals]

Footage Comparison 😮 not as far apart as I would have expected

[@davidpoo66]

Great comparison, exactly what I was searching for. I still think traveling by myself the ZV is way too bulky to travel with. 😮 Thx

[@schoeferfilm]

I have now since one week the ZVE1 and I love it 😍 perfect small b-cam for my FX6 👍🏻 OP is for sure a great cam too. It depends on your filmmaking what you prefer

[@NikoBols]

Yup. Agree 100%. It's all about what you're using it for and what you're willing to carry around 😜

[@gnosticone]

Log 10-bit looks significantly better on the Sony but in the normal/all auto, the pocket had more dynamic range (imo)

[@NikoBols]

I agree. It’s either that, or there is a better way to expose DLog M that I don’t know about.

[@walkwithyan]

great comparison video. planning to buy the pocket 3. ☺

[@NikoBols]

You won’t regret it 👍

[@tftexe]

The question is osmo pocket 3 vs Latest flagship phone for ease

[@TheMaan2008]

Not sure if I should return my ZV-E1 now :( & get this instead?? Then!

[@NikoBols]

This really depends on your use case.

[@djnoche]

Normal mode on the Osmo 3 is 10bit.

[@NikoBols]

Are you sure? I'm pretty sure reviewers mentioned that it's not. And official DJI promos only mention 10-bit when mentioning DLog M and HLG.

[@glenncthomson]

As far as I am aware it is 10 bit if using hevc. H264 is 8bit@@NikoBols

[@NikoBols]

@@glenncthomson ooohhh…ok. My bad. Then it is 10-bit since I was using HEVC. Thanks for the correction, Glenn. And to @djnoche too.

[@apichartintarapanich2911]

May I ask where did you shoot footage in Nara? I will be in Japan next week and I like to know how the autumn in Japan now.

[@NikoBols]

Shot this in Nara Park where the Deers are and in the Todaiji Temple.

[@riisparklover]

Walking outside in the normal profile I think the pocket definitely outperformed the Sony. And I am a Sony fan and have five very expensive sony cameras.

[@NikoBols]

Yeah, for traveling, I think the Osmo Pocket is great camera in Normal Color Profile.

[@brianpark2564]

great idea to compare these 2! i will say though that the osmo is a fixed lens right? so maybe it would have been more fair to do a small pancake prime for the zv-e1 and lose the cage setup to kind of even up the score? def more dynamic range in the auto on the osmo but it also might be hlg or hdr/ and kinda seems weird like a face filter so it loses some sharpness and detail, but it def doesn't blow out as much. things flip when its in log, but then again the zve1 is a beast and is pretty much the same camera that shot the creator, so if you can expose and modify light well, it doesn't matter which one you choose. but yeah it was nice to see side by side!

[@NikoBols]

Good point! The problem is I don’t own a pancake lens at the moment 😬 Also, the widest pancake lens I can think of is the Sony 24 f/2.8 which I think might be tight already compared to the Osmo Pocket.

[@brianpark2564]

ah gotcha. i got the 16mm 2.8 aps-c sony lens bc with dynamic stabilization it will crop what would be blacked out and be close to a 20mm @@NikoBols

[@NikoBols]

@@brianpark2564 Oh nice! What I want to get is the new Sigma 10-18 f2.8. Cause it is like the old Sony 10-18 f/4 where vignette starts to disappear when zoomed to 12mm with Active SteadyShot in FF mode.

[@brianpark2564]

do you think the sony pz 10-20mm f4 could be better as vlogging lens bc with the handheld remote thing could control zoom i think? and f stop pro doesn't really matter bc it's a low light beast right?@@NikoBols

[@NikoBols]

@@brianpark2564 it can be. Depends if you can utilize the PZ feature. But personally, I would go for the Sigma f/2.8 over the Sony 10-20mm.

[@CAMTechChris]

Hey Niko, thanks for the great video! I’m interested in the Falcam zve1 case you mentioned. Do you mind posting a link? Thank you!

[@NikoBols]

Hey Chris. Here’s the link to the cage: www.ulanzi.com/products/falcam-f22-f38-f50-quick-release-camera-cage-v2-for-sony-zv-e1?aff=1102

[@CAMTechChris]

@@NikoBols Niko, thank you for the link! Apologies for misspelling your name earlier. Darn autocorrect! I fixed it! 🤪

[@NikoBols]

@@CAMTechChris hahaha, no worries. People call me Nik anyways when they want to save on syllables 😂

[@MarcoMars]

Gopro comparison please!

[@NikoBols]

Sige, gawin ko yan.

[@MarcoMars]

yeheeey!! @@NikoBols

[@otanozias1614]

The image quality of dji osmo pocket 3 as shown in the dlog m, show there are details, bad color correction made it look worst. All of a sudden highlights were blown out. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@NikoBols]

Yeah, that's mostly my fault. This is the first time I'm correcting D LOG M. And I'm not that good of a colorist.😬

[@ericchen1205]

Great video. Question - pocket 3 is great, but it seems it can't match the ability of ZV-E1 in achieving the very dramatic bokeh and shallow depth of field effect, which makes a huge difference in producing cinematic video and "story" beyond doing home videos. What do you think? Is it possible for small camera ever to produce good bokeh effect?

[@NikoBols]

If producing bokeh is your priority, then yeah, you should go with the ZV-E1. The smaller sensor of the Pocket 3 will be a limitation for bokeh (although it’s not because of the sensor per se…but this is for another topic 😂). When you look at 1:15 of the video, that’s the bokeh that you can get from the Pocket 3.

[@ericchen1205]

Thanks for the quick reply. I am interested to learn from you about "...not because of the sensor per se…but this is for another topic...". So what are the main reasons these small camera can't achive good bokeh effect? The fixed lens not fast enough? Thanks!! @@NikoBols

[@bladerealm124]

@@ericchen1205smaller sensors can't achieve as shallow depth of field as something like the full-frame ZV-E1, at least not without some crazy aperture that wouldn't be possible with today's technology. That's why smartphones have to resort to a digital fake bokeh effect. 20mm f2 on the Pocket 3 1-inch sensor is equivalent to ~f5.6 on the ZV-E1. If you were to stop any lens down to f5.6 on the ZV-E1 it should be about the same "amount" of bokeh.

[@kell7195]

Excellent, I was considering buying a Sony ZV-E1 to replace my A7III but I just got a Pocket 3 and im glad I did, I dont think ill ever buy another mirrorless unless its for Astrophotgraphy.

[@NikoBols]

Interesting. I still couldn’t not have a mirrorless camera, but yeah, using the Pocket 3 on a trip was just so much more convenient.

[@R3user-p5q]

For the money, you have to give the nod to the DJI.

[@NikoBols]

For sure!

[@frankatbp]

ZV-E1 all the way, for travel or vlogging! I use lightweights Samyang 18mm by default or zeiss 35mm F2.8 on specific days and ulanzi mt-46 mini tripod if necessary.

[@NikoBols]

Nice! Those are great compact setups 👏

[@emyattv914]

Dji claimed that normal color is also 10bit

[@NikoBols]

Yeah, I missed that. Someone commented already here that it is 10-bit in Normal color when using HEVC, and 8-bit if H264.

[@CanaryFilmPro]

Don't get this film with your iPhone 15 pro it's much much better and higher quality

[@NikoBols]

Hahaha. I personally don’t like shooting with my phone. But it’s not about the quality. It’s more of the ergonomics.

[@selfmade_lj]

I feel the pocket is better lol

[@duekneel]

lalaban ang osmo pocket 3 sa image quality aba

[@NikoBols]

Yup. Ineedit ko ngayon Japan video para sa family channel. Lalaban talaga eh!

[@_sk_videos]

The skin tones on the Osmo Pocket look horrible

[@kell7195]

Yeah I dont know, the Sony has a green tinge, the Pocket has some beauty mode thing in it as well.