Sophia Esperanza is No Longer Vegan

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0:00 Intro
1:18 Ethical Animal Products
6:49 Everything Everywhere All At Once (but for ethics)
11:32 Factory Bad
14:16 Vibe Ain't Right
16:11 Speaking My Truth About Your Truth
19:42 Outro
20:17 NOPE!
#sophiaesperanza #vegan #exvegan

[@UnnaturalVegan]

My soul cannot dance to this (also, I meant walk instead of DRIVE, not walk instead of bike lol)

[@thenayancat8802]

I think you had to be on the journey to really understand

[@christophersmith4438]

This is debilitatingly funny 😭😭 Solid video, but this comment is the MVP

[@fleabitz1474]

"Fuck alignment" could be your next tshirt design.

[@el-bov8034]

I'm not capable of filling the cracks with myself. Too many cracks :(

[@fern9234]

​@@fleabitz1474Damn you beat me to it😂

[@princessviolet4522]

Actually lobsters and other crustaceans are sentient and boiling them alive is cruel

[@ebisk]

Yeah I agree, really weird that Swayze would say that. The studies done on lobsters (primarily to determine whether boiling them alive is 'humane') seems to agree that they are sentient enough that murdering them via such a method causes them immense suffering. "The UK government has declared that lobsters, crabs, octopuses and related species will be included under the Animal Welfare (Sentience) Bill". This happened like two years ago, sounds like there's enough evidence for crabs and lobsters to be sentient if they are being included in animal welfare legislation.

[@patrickbateman1660]

Isn't it illegal in some countries to actually boil them alive?

[@princessviolet4522]

@@patrickbateman1660 I think so but not in the US

[@thatwasweird954]

Yeah, I was really taken aback by UV saying that lobsters are completely non-sentient. And the only reason she doesn't eat them is because they're "gross?" Seriously? (There's a KZbinr, Brady Brandwood, who's been caring for a former grocery store lobster for a couple years now. You see this creature who started out very weak and scared develop this distinct personality. Not to mention, he uses defense mechanisms that clearly demonstrate he does not want to be harmed.)

[@noosphericaltarzan]

She’s maybe half a bottle of wine away from rationalizing a bbq because she spirit-felt the animals wanted to gift themselves to her.

[@halliegood7131]

😂😂😂😂

[@Beechbeach]

If you convince yourself to be vegan for nonsense reasons, you are also going to convince yourself to stop being vegan for nonsense reasons. Magical thinking is fickle, which is a good reason to listen to your channel, and get rational justifications to back up the ethics that will help you to become or stay vegan.

[@ebbyc1817]

​@biochemica2 in general, in a society where people are lazier than they were say, 30 years ago, or 60 years ago, it would be harder to get the majority to do anything that requires more effort than the alternative, whether it's being physically fit/not overweight, doing less online and more physically or in-person, spending more time with children (their children) and less time away from them, or adopting a more plant-based diet that requires using raw, natural products that need to be cooked, which requires patience and technique. It's not about intelligence, it's about effort. It requires more effort to cook beans than to eat a couple slices of bread, so bread will always be more popular. If bread were not plant-based, that would automatically mean that more people would be choosing the non-plant-based option. Getting people to give up bread in favour of beans would have very, very little chance of success. As it happens, that battle doesn't need to be fought but it's not because bread is vegan. It's because it's easy.

[@NotTodaySatan557]

She definitely exhibits magical thinking 😂

[@SteversChed]

Why do you use animal products needlessly for sensory pleasure while only pretending to be against it? If it's okay for you, it's okay for Sophia right?

[@Beechbeach]

@@SteversChed who are you talking to?

[@user-yn5sk5ru5g]

It sounded like a chatGPT script wordsalad ego talk of 1 hour. 🤷

[@dnibcn93]

lmfao

[@bri4550]

It’s so funny to me how these people complain about things that are “not natural” but have tattoos, lip fillers, wear makeup, use SPF, etc etc. Cherry pick much??

[@ramenjd6239]

Appeal to nature fallacy - an fallacious argument that only natural things and good and unnatural things are bad

[@respectkindness-oj6xz]

i am wondering to what extent they consider something natural and unnatural. how would they define that notion?

[@wix6893]

her vid was so dramatic I had second hand embarrassment the whole time.

[@tamcon72]

I think melodramatic is the more accurate word.

[@momo_u]

"there are your headlines" (me looking around my empty livingroom for the nyt journalists)

[@maryalice6375]

I’m so exhausted by coming to every issue from a place of emotional ‘truth’. If that’s the way issues are framed and discussed there will never be any agreement because people’s emotions about things will never align. And because it’s about the individual feelings there’s no way to encompass what’s best for the whole. Utterly exhausting…

[@betterworld2958]

Uh...peoples's emotions and feelings regularly do not align. We have wars.

[@betterworld2958]

And so what you think is best for the whole is best. OK

[@Samsona75]

That merits one massive eyeroll from me. I applaud you for watching that verbal vomit of a video for that long.

[@Samsona75]

Also, she must be terrified of the dead looking beet juice in her vitamix

[@tayyrahhh11]

@@MdoubleHBxx.bro what

[@MichaelPennMath]

Your takes on "spiritual" former vegans are always top notch.

[@cookiequeen5430]

:o you here? Cool!

[@sophie.c7]

18:45 "my feelings would lead me to eat whatever I want, play video games, never go outside again" I FELT THAT STRONGLY.

[@Scuzoid_Melee]

Just finished a binge session of "How to with John Wilson" and the reason the reason I'm able to binge it is because so many lines from the people he talks to or himself I'd classify as "Harsh truths that are hysterical when spoken aloud." Swayze would fit in perfectly.

[@candyorange266]

I had backyard hens. They were free range during the day and started to "lay out" and lay their eggs under bushes and random places on the property. By the time i would find the eggs, they had to be thrown away because I didn't know how old they were. To get eggs in any quantity, I would have had to confine them during the day so they had to use the laying boxes in the coop. I decided to let them have freedom and just take the few eggs that they did lay in their boxes . Even if you're not selling or bartering eggs, you can sometimes have to do things that arenot optimal for the animal's quality of life in order to get the "product."

[@llleiea]

idk what went wrong, but my parents have backyard hens as do my grandparents. And they all where/are free range with a lot of space and still all of them lay their eggs in the provided nests. We had one hen who ate the eggs she layed. but other then that...

[@SF-op5ix]

@@llleieathis was my experience too. The chickens had an acre to run around in but they loved to sit and lay in their boxes 😂

[@AA-cf4es]

You can easily determine the egg freshness by putting it in the water. I'm pretty sure if you don't know it you've never had chicken in reality

[@codydolanvegan]

The promblem with eating eggs even when the chickens are not killed is that it normalises eating animal products.

[@shannonreid2497]

did you ever have any issues with predators killing chickens? I won't free range for this reason.

[@brendandalton7879]

Her chicken/conveyor belt comparison just made me incredibly angry.

[@sophiebrear3597]

It’s completely insane especially coming from someone whose actually been inside slaughterhouses and seen how horrific they are first hand…

[@ramenjd6239]

The main issue with backyard hen includes: 1. Where does this chicken come from? rescued? or brought from chicken farm? The later option still benefits the chicken farm (and where would the male chicks go?) 2. Hens are bred to massively produce eggs every day, where wild hens could only produce 12-15 eggs per year. It's very taxing on the hen's health that lays eggs every day It's a grey area in terms of ethics

[@patrickbateman1660]

What is the answer to backyard eggs for vegans. I'm trying to be vegan. I know chickens often eat their eggs for nutrients but they produce so many and some are left over. Is it wrong to eat those eggs? I wouldn't but it seems like a loophole.

[@ramenjd6239]

@@patrickbateman1660 If eggs are left on the ground to rot, I don’t see an issue of eating them. Again, hens are bred in such way that they produce eggs every day which is taxing on their bodies. If you want your hen to not be so exhausted from laying eggs, you should give them implant to limit their egg production. There’re also plant based eggs like just eggs If we’re looking by strict definition from vegan society, eating eggs is not vegan. But you can be ethical by eating eggs from backyard hens

[@escitalopram15mg61]

@@patrickbateman1660unless you’re taking care of a chicken that you got for free, the ethics are pretty simple. Don’t eat the eggs. Any animal or animal product that you consume that were payed for have the possibility for animal exploitation. Therefore it wouldn’t and shouldn’t be considered vegan.

[@googanslayer6675]

rearing chickens is not a grey area with ethics. Chicken are for egg laying and meat. capitalism or not caring for sentient beings is a non argument. They are an human invention. Also the vegan diet causes crops deaths, pollution, and dead zones. Corn and soy mono crops should be banned

[@codydolanvegan]

Its ALWAYS wrong to eat eggs. Even if the chickens are not killed, eating their eggs still normalises eating animal products and re-inforces the idea that eggs are food for humans. Just be vegan.

[@democratie_et_esprit_critique]

5:40 even assuming the hens are treated correctly, “sharing the bounty of stewardship” still leave half of the chickens out of the equation. Unless they have a way to determine the sex of an egg before the embryo became conscious.

[@patrickbateman1660]

They actually do. This technology exists in Europe and will be used soon. But it doesn't change the fact the birds will be murdered brutally.

[@mancillado]

When I think I can’t watch another ex-vegan video, you get me with the thumbnails every time

[@ThingsYoudontwanttohear]

The illogical arguments are the worst part. If only they would say that the convenience of buying animal products is more important to them than adhering to their morals with every purchase and stop the video there, but no, let's keep going and debunk a strawman version of veganism with nonsensical arguments.😑

[@dogdonut3]

I don't think I'm going to watch any more of them, good thumbnail or not. I feel like it just feeds into giving non vegans more ammunition for how "craz'y" vegans are. We're just helping to promote another. "I'm not vegans anymore." I don't want to promote them or focus on them.

[@daypsiequartz]

Damn, i wish i was pretty enough to just say whatever i want because of the vibes lol

[@thatsalt1560]

Haha! Yes, exactly.

[@Seas47]

Jealous much 😂

[@CazAvery]

Speaking as someone who *loves* the 'how it's made' videos for things that get mixed in massive things and then sent along a conveyor belt with different parts of the process happening, I'd really enjoy watching that as I ate whatever mock meat it was. That would be really cool, I'd have a great time.

[@UnnaturalVegan]

1000%

[@probowler2000]

Thank god for you. While i appreciate poetry, i cant stand it when people try to sound like this. It's probably pretty easy for "artist types" (me) to get sucked in when someone spins around and calls the earth a breathing being. The stark contrast you bring asking what all of the flowery words even mean really brings things back to the ground. I'm always impressed with your perspective and ability to deal with things rationally. ❤

[@annarompca9072]

I think buying used leather is fine, but I personally cannot stand the smell...

[@jillianthrill]

My bf got faux leather shoes once and they sprayed it with artificial leather scent and it stunk up our home for daaaays. I hate leather smell too.

[@annarompca9072]

@@jillianthrill omg sounds awful 😰

[@thatsalt1560]

​@@jillianthrill😱

[@Con_blue]

I've recently discovered that sarah lemkus also stopped being vegan a while ago. So basically everyone i used to watch years ago promoting veganism is no longer vegan except you who back then some of them would consider you "too lenient" towards the meat eaters! I don't understand how so many people were so horrified by what the animals are going through and years later they just don't care suddenly.

[@mariettaszabo]

They were vegan because it was trendy at that time I swear

[@Con_blue]

If you said that to them back then they would think you were insane. They were like a cult it was the most important thing to them and now were are these people?

[@harbingerbk1]

When I first went vegan (over 7 years ago) I was OBSESSED with the diet/lifestyle and, as a result, myself. I over thought every meal, every nutrient, every counterargument. I wanted to ensure that *I* would be vegan forever and that I could make *everyone* around me securely vegan forever. The "I'm no longer vegan" stories felt like personal insults. Then I got the heck off social media and started enjoying my life. Now I can safely say I'm happy and healthy AF being vegan, and I dont stress about my health or other peoples' choices. I think Swayze is right that these "my journey" content creators become so self-centered that they agonize about these things and every little "symptom" or inkling they think they have. Of note: the more science based content creators (as opposed to the "my journey"ers) seem to remain vegan. I love Unnatural Vegan, Plant Chompers, Nutrition Made Simple, and Mic the Vegan!

[@Con_blue]

@@harbingerbk1 Yes i agree!

[@YokoFuongAnh]

same with Maddie Lymburner..they just all went "vegan" to get views....very sad ...

[@redhead3322]

My soul often feels content to dance between chips and chocolate. But my tummy is dancing in a different way when I only eat that 🤣

[@Ridelesdowne]

"Fuck alignment" is a great band name

[@ramonaa.5959]

And I'd buy their album loll. 😆

[@gmle843]

man... I hope one day I can have as clear and fully formed a sense of myself, my values and my opinions as you do. I feel like I just sort of amoeba through life without much clarity on... much...and when I happen upon something that actually seems like a good or helpful thing to do (for ANYONE) I'm thrilled, because most of the time every single issue seems way too complicated to know what kind of influence from me would be helpful or be hurtful. You seem pretty much resolved and clear about how to be a good person who you yourself are proud of and honestly, I bet that's where a lot of your viewership comes from. It's nice to listen to a person who sounds like they know the answers. Or , I don't know. Maybe that's just me. Anyway, way to go.

[@SM-eb6tw]

If you’ve ever had to care for backyard hens then you’d know this idealized picture Sophia is painting about “animal stewardship and sharing that bounty” is a huge crock of sh*t Even under the most ideal conditions hens that lay inherently suffer. The modern day layer has been bred to produce way too many eggs. Along with this comes a slew of health issues. If you’re lucky you might not encounter medical emergencies but more likely you will. Choosing to rescue is wonderful but subsequently choosing to eat the very thing said chicken was exploited for in the first place is.. wild

[@princesseville6889]

It took our rescue hens 6 months of sunlight and love to mould and finally look healthy again, their bodies were SO weak after 1,5 years of cages... and they never stopped laying. Its really not ethical overall.

[@camerontuck108]

thank YOU for sparing me the pain of having to listen to that woman talk the way she does for an entire hour and a half

[@claireconover]

the clips alone are so full of buzzword nonsense.

[@lillyelis3588]

that woman? you cant even say her name ...

[@itscarolinemary]

Your response is 💯 have you done a video going into people’s criticisms of mock meats and being “unhealthy,” “processed” etc? Like worse than meat? I would love to hear your insight

[@Megan-19]

Any processed food is somewhat unhealthy. I'm vegan and every once in a while I eat a beyond burger or have some violife cheese on a vegan grilled cheese. It's delicious for every once in a while and it's certainly much better than eating actual dairy or real meat. I'll take a beyond burger over a cows corpse any damn day of the week!!

[@ffiontill5924]

It feels like spoken word poetry. Thanks for another great video💕

[@TasteOfButterflies]

Don't you mean unspoken spoken word poetry 😂 (7:03)

[@HeatherCutright]

Lobsters, crabs and octopuses have been classified as sentient beings and granted certain protections in the UK.

[@thatsalt1560]

I think even Swayze mentioned in one of her summaries of good vegan news that lobsters were listed as sentient in the USA. They do feel pain and people who insist on killing them for food should not drop them alive into boiling water.

[@roseg2239]

Octopuses aren't the same as lobsters and crabs. They're way more sentient.

[@patrickbateman1660]

How does this work? I'm pretty sure chickens are sentient? Not crazy intelligent but is sentient, right?

[@spacebar9733]

​@@patrickbateman1660 sentient is yes or no, not a scale really. Intelligence like you said is another thing. And I believe you can't judge a fish by it's ability to climb a tree. They're not intelligent in the way humans are but I'm sure in their purest form they were once the best at whatever nature made them for. I don't know the evolution of chickens specifically how they were genetically modified :P but I know they used to be able to fly so clearly this isnt their job in our world. How's that for natural.

[@madalinaanton3253]

My father is a bee keeper, he does it not for profit, the process of making honey is something I've known since childhood, sometimes you need to take the honey away to prepare the hives for the winter, you have to keep it in case they need more after they finish what they're already stored in the center of the hives, but the exces you can eat, although I don't do it it's not unethical, the same way propolis is not unethical, it's just surplus wax you need to clean from the hives so the bees could move freely, they do nothing with it and it's a good anti-bacterial,it smells nice and it's a shame to throw away. You can practice bee keeping ethically, in fact please do it, if free honey makes you wanna start bee keeping, please do it, I don't know how it is in the US but in Europe bees are dying.

[@straberryshinigami15g97]

Stealing THEIR honey is ethical? When we don’t need it?

[@stevencats7137]

Honey bees aren’t dying, all the other bees are because of the overpopulation of invasive honey bees. That’s my problem with honey farming. It creates problems for the environment, not fixed then

[@madisonking332]

“Dead looking ingredients” got me 😂

[@Hiiiiiiiiieeee]

I align with your opinion on a lot of these topics 😂 But for real, you have definitely been helping me work my way towards my vegan journey. I am one of those people that truly connects it to and loves all animals and it’s becoming harder and harder for me to keep the wall up in my mind between eating them at times but still caring for them as much as I do. I feel like one day you just make the plunge and go for it and I am definitely getting closer and closer by the day. Thank you for your help with that. And the witty commentary along the way.

[@6OceanSoul9]

Sounds exactly like i was feeling before going vegan 7 years ago. You can do it!!

[@blackmetalmatters9101]

Alignment? In D&D we would say her "alignment" is chaotic evil, but anyway...

[@Angryalpaca1503]

How does Sophia know Earth is a she? has she gone down to Antarctica to check what's under the snow?

[@nuclearfurbyy1341]

earthussy

[@el-bov8034]

Haha! :)

[@helenageerts2115]

Hahahahaha lol

[@MadMadMandy]

So chickens can give consent by sending thoughts to you now? 🤔 Doesn't sound healthy, I don't want to eat a mindreading chickens egg.

[@thatsalt1560]

It's a little too sentient for me ...

[@miss2slick]

I finally had the time to watch the hour long video yesterday and I'm glad you made this video. I commented saying I find it extremely difficult to believe any business would have the animals' best interest in mind when they need sales to survive. But the biggest question I have is how often is she consuming these animal byproducts now that the vegan alternatives are that unhealthy? Unless she's consuming it daily (doubtful and would be unhealthy as eggs are very high in cholesterol), then consumung the vegan alternatives on an infrequent basis is perfectly healthy.

[@shinebright048]

In my opinion, the people stop being vegan because its hard to be a minority in a meat, dairy eating world. I feel thats the main reason people look for excuses. Its fine not to be vegan, but I can’t stand influencers who made a fortune off veganism and attacked meat eaters and now you see them move away from veganism. At the end of the day people, do what you can and don’t let a label or influencers define you.

[@porlashadas]

Lobster not sentient? I would need much more information.

[@thatsalt1560]

They are sentient.

[@arlene1212]

This is her way to justify to herself that her eating non-vegan is ok. And obviously her husband wasn’t vegan & I’m sure that had something to do with it also. I’ve been vegan for 17 years no mental or health issues. I’ve heard so “many” people get on KZbin & their reasons for not being vegan anymore 🙄 .......

[@AM-wg4ii]

I hate the argument “I’ve been vegan for x many years and I’ve had no issues” as if it’s a universally applicable statement. That’s good you’ve had no issues. Not everyone has no issues.

[@corvusmonedula]

But did she mention her "journey" tho

[@thatsalt1560]

I don't remember but she did mention ants journeying up a tree or something like that in her original video.

[@kittyfriend9888]

I think what she’s saying is that vegans should be more concerned with actual issues and not things like making earrings from feathers off the ground, or eating an infertile egg that was laid naturally by a backyard hen, or thrifting a piece of leather, I can see why people are against the leather though because it glamorizes the look/and she’s talking about the quality over vegan leather etc, but I mean this person probably is living a very ethical life, probably more than some that would be so upset about the egg

[@MusiKo14]

Yeah. I’m not super worried and I think she’s still doing better than 90% of the population if all she’s done is start eating more ethically farmed eggs and wearing second hand leather. HOWEVER, the faulty reasoning, seed oils pseudoscience, and woowoo worry me. Bad reasoning is a shaky foundation to build even the most ethical lifestyle on. What if she gets woo-wooed into drinking milk again? Or worse, eating the carnivore diet?

[@brendandalton7879]

“Fuck alignment.” Haha. Thank you.

[@DearMariska]

This is such an intelligent and accurate analysis!

[@straberryshinigami15g97]

This reminds me of my step sister. After I told her why I’m vegan she said “ I understand how you believe that”. She said before how she was “vegetarian” and now is not even plant based. And she calls herself an “environmentalist” yet was so nice to my cat. How about being nice to ALL animals?🙄🙄🙄

[@silaswild6233]

Being Vegan isn't being nice to ALL animals, many many animals, insects and habitat is destroyed in the farming of crops

[@Josephineb1834]

Just to clarify, I think research has concluded that PFAS do indeed passes through into our blood stream. What this exactly means for our health we do not yet know, though!

[@auralit8]

My read is she wanted to preserve her sense of moral righteousness. Instead of admitting she's making a less ethical choice out of self-interest, she needs to find a way to make her choice the most enlightened path.

[@adele2312]

I feel very aligned with your views and the way you express your truth 😊✌

[@maschakarpova4836]

I recently saw the French dosumentary "Tomorrow" (Demain) from 2015 for the first time, and in that film they talk about how small gardens and farms produce relatively way more food that industrialized big monoculture farms ever could...and that if more people were to become gardeners and farmers and society could support such a trend, a lot of the problems with agriculture that we see today could be avoided. I havent done further research into that yet, but it sounds plausible, speaking from years of gardening experience myself... Would be curious to hear your take on that. Another thing I would love to hear your take on is a recent claim of (German) doctors that mock meat products, being so highly processed, are actually very dangerous for health. (I have been vegan for almost 10 years and at first focussed on whole foods and super foods, then my partner also decided to go vegan a couple of years ago and due to his prefrences we started eating a lot of mock meat and cheese, until 3-4 months ago this warning was all over German media. We have since shifted back to eating more whole foods but finding it sometimes hard to get enough protein from just beans and lentils)

[@spacebar9733]

I liked this video but that was my immediate thought. When sophia implies using less industrial farming she means all of us having our own farms split between families and sharing that food. There would still be surplus, depending on how many people in each house/for each farm. I thought it was quite obvious what she meant in that regard. At my old high school we had our own farm (not on school property) and we got fresh food for breakfast, brunch, lunch, and supper. I live in California and it was a rich ass school but still, it's very possible.

[@dogdonut3]

Maybe a more positive idea would be introducing us to new influencers who ARE vegan. Spead the love!

[@steviee.4918]

she does

[@dogdonut3]

@steviee.4918 Just seems like every week there's another "I'm not vegan anymore" video that she covers. That gives them a lot more attention than I personally feel they need. I'd rather see new youtubers/influencers who ARE vegan. Just my opinion.

[@beebeeisland]

Great video. Honestly I get kind of annoyed when people are like “animals aren’t the only thing worth fighting for” and try to make vegans feel bad about not driving an electric car, buying all organic or whatever. Veganism is about reducing the suffering of animals. ALL the vegans I know are also very informed about other types of suffering like child labor, unfair workers’ pay and buying used products to minimize their effect on other types of suffering. STILL. That’s just because they are trying to be good people both through practicing vegan morals and other morals as well. It doesn’t really have anything to do with veganism and should. If veganism is about not only eating solely plant based but also about only buying used stuff, never traveling or buying chocolate it just because way to hard being vegan. Nobody is perfect but we should all try to be better.

[@iansane1928]

Yeah the people that say that shit are complete knobs. We are very capabLe of being concerned about many different aspects of life. This same thing happens in politics. People say "we need to secure our borders" before we help Ukraine. No, we can do both.

[@AimeeColeman]

Walk instead of bike? Isn't biking more efficient? 😅 I'm guessing you meant drive :)

[@Graveryl]

I agree with almost everything she says but when she dissed biking I almost unsubscribed! (Joking.)

[@TasteOfButterflies]

​@@matiasmartinez720walking burns fewer calories than cycling for the same amount of time, but cycling burns fewer calories than walking for the same distance. Biking definitely is more efficient, humans invented the wheel to use less energy for the same tasks.

[@AimeeColeman]

@@matiasmartinez720 I think it would take a lot less energy to cycle 10 miles than to walk 10 miles. I'm pretty sure cycling is more efficient

[@wristsareforgirls]

The woman in the clips is delusional and extremely irritating to listen to. Also, an inherent issue with the "backyard hens" thing is the provenance of the hens; chick suppliers kill the male chicks before they ever get to the folks buying the chicks that will grow up to be backyard hens. Are these super-nice, expensive, feel-good-about exploiting animals by pretending they're cool with it farms sourcing chicks from a supplier who sends all the chicks (including males) and then allowing the roosters to grow to adulthood and happily live out their lives (just separated from the females)? I think not, especially with how many behavioral problems you'd likely get with a coop full of roosters together.

[@laranadesign4764]

100% agree

[@thatsalt1560]

Yes, and these hens have been bred to lay eggs at an unnaturally high pace.

[@Draw4Dame]

I agree with her that buying garbage polyester shoes is ridiculous and is in fact anti vegan. Buying old leather shoes that decompose in the ground after you die is much better if the spirit of veganism is minimizing environmental/animal harm

[@johncrondis4563]

My issue with the backyard hens is that it is so rare that one acquired hens without purchasing them and then also gave them a free life, allowing them to coexist with roosters. We basically make a tiny nunnery for our own gain. If it isn't hyper controlled, contorted, and we just allow the chickens to do what they want, then we won't really get unfertilized eggs often at all. And we have to feed those chickens, often seeds, which means we could just buy seeds for ourselves instead of investing in a personal chicken factory. Basically, you need to get a couple rescue chickens for free with no rooster at all, and they have plenty of space to live freely, and if they like eating their own eggs then they get to. In these highly specific occasions, same with like a random gifted goat, or rescue cow, one can have animal products without harm....or one can just buy a damn broccoli and not keep plugging the message to the world that it is alright to have animal products, because the more people try to replicate the "local backyard" reality, the more that gets ever corrupted, and turns into something not good.

[@olivia4394]

Yes I would love to see how mock meats are made, much MORE than a slaughterhouse!

[@firstlast9855]

Am I the only one who would think it would be cool to watch a 'How it's Made' style video of mock meats?

[@thatsalt1560]

Another "the Universe told me to eat an egg".

[@amandac3005]

I'm just glad she's not going back to eating meat like most of the vegans on you tube. It's nice to know she's still being conscious of what she's eating.

[@ievaritina5891]

When she says "we try to walk instead of bike", why?

[@itstrysten]

If we're charitable we assume she meant walk or bike instead of drive. lol

[@UnnaturalVegan]

Yes! I meant walk instead of drive!

[@anjaplemenitas1]

"..food traveling down a conveyor belt" made me laugh out loud :D love it!

[@fionnbeith1]

Wild We Roam (YT Channel): Another soul embarks on a different journey, choosing to reintroduce [insert animal product here] into their life after ten years of veganism. It is always a heart-wrenching moment when someone decides to part ways with a lifestyle that seeks to alleviate suffering, both for animals and the planet. While their reasons may be their own, it reminds us of the ongoing need for compassion and understanding in our conversations about veganism and its impact on our lives.

[@kunaal_1928]

9:23 what do you mean by walking instead of biking? What’s wrong with bikes?😅

[@straberryshinigami15g97]

Disagree with the egg discussion. Even if you’re just eating backyard eggs, you were still viewing the animals as a commodity as a means to the end, as someone that can give you something, which vegans are against

[@Gabeee]

Regarding the health topic of vegan processed foods. Do you have an opinion/video(if I missed) about additives like thickening agents, especially controversial ones like carrageenan and all sorts of gums? It's not very nice to read the long list of these on the mock meats and such :/

[@Gabeee]

@@MdoubleHBxx.Not sure what are you on about, it's definitely fine not to eat everything raw. Especially protein rich plants. But given that you called her a child abuser, I'm going to just say: fuck off. Reported. What a bullshit.

[@soychelly836]

I’m vegan because I care about animals and don’t want to consume anything that comes from them period.

[@Goodmorning1221-]

Then your vegetables are 100% pesticides free, right ? If not, then you are not vegan.

[@Draw4Dame]

Religious beliefs are great because they don’t have to be consistent with any reality, you just gotta be “trying your best” to meet the central tenets

"We" (i. e., the world human population) need that “quite destructive” industrial agriculture particularly when 77% of all the agricultural land is used as pastures for grazing or to grow crops for farm animal feed. Add to that all the land "trapped" under roads, stroads, detached houses, lawns, parking lots, etc.

[@wallflower6942]

The problem with the destructive agri practices is that it is not something we can keep doing indefinetely. It is not just a problem of the amount of land, because even if there is enough land, at this moment in time the only way to make a lot of that land productive for the lowest price is by using fossil fuels to make fertilizers. Veganism is definitely better because it uses less of those resources, but it is not a real solution from a sustainability perspective (ofc it is a solution for ethical issues!). The reason that those lands are unproductive without those fertilizers is because our farming practices degrade our soils. See the problem? Fossil fuels will be increasingly difficult to extract and therefore more expensive. This will definitely be a huge problem for food production in the future. We need to step towards less destructive farming and less people in the long term if we want that all people are fed in a sustainable way. I think as vegans it is important to be mindfull of these issues that veganism alone can't fix.

[@stubbs3023]

Great video! Your tiny clip at the end about getting your kid school supplies made me think I’d like to hear your take on public school! I hear a lot of homeschooling discourse these days, interested to know your thoughts.

[@IgniteBurningIce]

Is there a reason for “walk instead of bike”? Perhaps you meant drive but just caught my attention.

[@redefinetwentynine]

I went vegan for the animals and to me that means centering compassion. That does lead me to abstain from buying and consuming animal products and that is a big part for me, but it also leads to showing and acting with compassion towards “everything everywhere all at once”.

[@andrewharmony]

This is a little off topic, but I will never give up on bringing you to the dark side! (i'm joking about the "dark side"). You said in the video that as soon as money is exchanged with backyard hens, the hens are turned into a commodity and are exploited. You can say the same with humans, where any job turns your labor into a commodity and you are being exploited, and by the definition of capitalism, the laborer must be underpaid and exploited so the owner can make a profit. Yet you seem to not connect the two in your past video on capitalism :(

[@VeganofCourse]

NGL, this is maybe the best reaction to this. Totally disagree with backyard hens and all that though.

[@patrickbateman1660]

Why do you disagree? I genuinely want to know because I struggle with this issue.

[@jazznejat]

I honestly don't care if she wants to eat eggs and honey or if she wants to buy used leather. She still is primarily vegan and that's less animals that are exploited so I'm happy, personally. I just wish she didn't make a huge debacle of it. It gave anti-vegans more ammo. It comes off like she did it for attention.

[@pinetree2289]

“Seriously tho y she molestin that tree?” 😂

[@CheriLay]

another pseudo-spiritual woo-woo which aims to justify cruelty....

[@helenageerts2115]

Alienising ‘hippies’ and free spirit people from a vegan diet and lifestyle is not the way to go either….

[@CheriLay]

@@helenageerts2115 that's not what I said in my comment.

[@kristen7013]

Great video. I would recommend you read what a fish knows. People have a hard time thinking of sealife the same as land animals.

[@squidleyskidley]

You think lobsters aren’t sentient?? What?! Have you not seen the KZbin videos of that guy who bought a live lobster from the store and then raised him as a pet? He has a very obvious personality and tastes/ distaste. He responds to the guy. How can that lobster not be sentient?

[@veganfromvenus]

You did a good analysis of the video. I still consider her to be vegan... ish! If every person does their best to try to avoid animal products then more animals will live. I respect your words on why your vegan.. Animals at the forefront 🙏

[@ginparadise]

"Why is she molesting that tree?" 😂😂😂

[@Askalott]

I’ve actually been wondering about backyard eggs. I have a neighbor who sells them, and I’ve been tempted to buy some. But I’d want to know where are the chickens purchased from? And what happens to those chickens when they stop producing eggs? Does anyone here have info about backyard eggs? “Backyard” as in, some regular person with a regular house has a chicken coop in their backyard and sells the eggs.

[@spacebar9733]

We can't give u info bc like you said last sentence. It's whatever the random person selling the eggs wants to do, however they do :P . Ask your neighbor.

[@Mondomeyer]

What people often say when they're going insane: "I'm giving up animal products to decrease the amount of unnecessary suffering." What someone might say when returning to sanity: "I live in Mexico where there are many cobblestone streets. I would cry whenever I had to drive somewhere, thinking about the pain I would inflicted on all those innocent rocks, but then I started eating pork and now I feel moraly validated."

[@anabelv4]

Great commentary!!!

[@anuke123]

This was great. Thanks

[@vividgreenvegan9286]

Wouldn't that be a great idea for a new Tshirt? "Fuck Alignment" I'd buy it :D

[@jjheartscows]

I agree on her being very self-centered here & using words to come across as “inclusive” when in reality this lifestyle only works for her because of her privileged living conditions. Most humans don’t have this.

[@treefrog1018]

The whole talk about Mother Earth and Stepping into...I don't have a word for it but it's literally just "taking care of the Earth". It's not rocket science woo woo. It's just being Human doing Human Things with the benefit of the planet in mind.

[@lilikroth8564]

Why would you say that lobsters aren't sentient?

[@saliexplore3094]

The videos you make are quality ... thanks for sharing these ... great to have a rational voice in this space!

[@early.autumn.summer]

3:35 yes!! I’ve never heard it said better

[@GS-lq2is]

You think lobsters aren’t sentient? What are you basing that nonsensical idea on?

[@TigerwomanXsweden]

Hello? Laying eggs is still very exhausting for the hens and can lead to health issues. The kindest thing is feeding the eggs back to them, not EATING THEM OURSELVES.

[@margotmrbch]

Thank you for your video ! That's crazy how all the vegan people I followed when I went vegan 7 years ago are no longer vegan. The factory bad part is insaneeeeeeee 🤯

[@lillyelis3588]

Hey this going to be a longer critical comment idk if anyone will even read it: just wanted to say that i rediscovered your channel after 4 years, started watching your videos when i was a teen, when i was really confused with body image, eating restrictions and health. i started to be vegan bc of negative feelings about animal exploitation but then i saw these videos of "health influencers" that eat aesthetic fruity meals all day. your videos really helped me to question that and actually learn about nutrition and veganism. so im happy to have rediscovered your channel, i appreciate your work! i especially value your empathy for people for whom a vegan or raw or very restrictive diet is not as manageable due to disabilities or low income! i hope you can start to get that empathy for more spiritual connections to food and planet earth (which we often see in these vegans) even though i do see the danger in that and i like that you stick to nutritional and medical facts, science and the production of knowledge can be critiqued as well. I agree that Sophias thoughts seem a little dramatic at times and I also don’t like that she genders natures as „she“ but I find your mocking way of reacting to that a bit irritating. I think what Sophia is hinting to, at least what it reminds me of are indigenous critiques about the Anthropocene, science, climate change, economy and industrialization (for example: Kathryn Yusoff, Zoe Todd, Donna Haraway…) but also many artists that challenge our traditional ways of thinking about planet earth and humans, animals, stones …(Otobong Nkanga). I also don’t believe in Technology as a fix to our problems as modern technology is rooted in extraction and extractivism that is rooted in colonial exploitation, affects predominately people and their animals in the Global South and also contributes to climate change and the destruction of land and ecologies. in many cultures food and food production plays a roll beyond the nutrition which can help people to connect with their sense of world and establish healthy eating behavior, especially in context of disorders or traumatic events. Sophia doesn’t really explore these thoughts much in her video but I think she brings interesting experiences we can think about like feeling disconnected from our food through automated, industrialized ways of producing food. Though she doesn’t offer all the solutions, I think you should try to respect her more spiritual or alternative reasonings. You say at the end that you don’t like following intuition/feelings…I don’t think comparing that to anti-lgbtq+ is reasonable, as those are most often not following feelings of compassion for animals and earth but of fear and hatred. This creates a dualism between facts-feelings, science-belief which ultimately calls for the one right thing to do, when two things can be right at the same time. I get what you mean with „Pseudo-enlightened talking“ but sometimes peoples (spiritual) journeys start with loving or centering oneself. I hope you can have more compassion for ways of expressing that, especially when it’s women of color.

[@davidsan9583]

some people say, all is energy or info, in world / life. by the way, in-format- "ion=energy" , so both words are in one. so eat cooked meat could be seen as 1. dead ( and suffer ) -info vs life-force ( and the fresher, the better, i think ). and 2. cooked /kill -info vs energised /more energy ( much more warmer than body temperature. also, less water in food and pre-digested, saves energy ). think, raw is rather cold than warm as body, and fiber ( very warm ) is for healing fast /much . - i not pro, any diet, but i think far on both sides, for main nutritions, and find, nothing is perfect, well, nature / life is balanced, as said in, around 13 universal laws, polarity and rhythm -law, ( both sides are needed for can live, and goes back and forth ). you think far, seen in your long text, and mentioned spiritual / spirit-ism , so i wrote my thoughts to you. take care.

[@Tibyon]

It's a woo blanket to cover up her shame. We're all guilty of doing it in some part of our lives

[@straberryshinigami15g97]

As a trans vegan, I’d love spaces that accept BOTH my transness and my veganism. That’s a problem with the movement.

[@hannahmacdonald3804]

I was waiting for your video on this because I could not sit through the 1 long ramble lol

[@shaijahalohalove1]

7:19 your expression of priceless! Made me lol I had to watch it again! 🤣 ya, I agree with you, vegan for life.

[@chanelleyoussefi4790]

The hen farm is ethical but still, there is something we forget to consider. They must purchase the hens from somewhere and I can tell you the breeders will not keep the roosters because they benefit only from selling hens. A large proportion of the males must be killed from the moment they are born because they do not lay eggs. So it's a bit of a tricky situation.

[@maddyG7414]

I had a friend who spoke so much like this woman. Nuggets of some wisdom, but at the end of it, she’s just trying to justify making a different decision for herself. There’s probably a very simple reason that doesn’t require an hour long video, and would be much less odd.

[@Goodmorning1221-]

Another one bites the dust Swayze. Strange, I thought your vegan diet was natural for the human being.

[@TheSnuffy1994]

But what happens to all the backyard male chickens?