Meat eater armed with an ARSENAL of anti-vegan arguments during campus debate

[@ed.winters]

It’s so interesting how, without necessarily realising, people have internalised a whole host of arguments against veganism without ever taking the time to actually substantiate them. Veganism is one of those issues which everyone has a set of beliefs around, yet so few people actually scrutinise their arguments or think about them deeply. Do you think Geoff will make changes? Support my university campus tours here (thank you!): earthlinged.org/support & patreon.com/earthlinged

[@v.a.n.e.]

where can we obtain information on the specifics of your expenses that you make with your team and friends during your tours that we finance with our hard-earned money?

[@v.a.n.e.]

... and yes, I almost forgot, were your aesthetic treatments financed with our money or your own?

[@FISHD0G747]

Supporting any creator is always going to be partially for them to keep doing what they’re doing, and partially to personally benefit the creator. Don’t give if you don’t want to, it’s not a nonprofit

[@MqKosmos]

​@@v.a.n.e.why do you take interest in it and how much of your hard earned money have you sent his way?

[@v.a.n.e.]

no, sorry. no. I feel entirely differently about it. Activism is not a career or a source of income. veganism needs activists who are motivated by integrity and dedication to the cause rather than self-interest @@FISHD0G747

[@aravisthetarkheena]

99% of vegan debates is just convincing people to act on things they already believe! So awesome to see this guy connect the dots!

[@Unmasking_Viandalisme]

I fare better as a WF omni., so Ed is irrelevant.

[@Veganweedwizard]

@@Unmasking_Viandalismeed is 1000 times more relevant, and will accomplish more and inspire more people than you will ever in your life time. Comparing you to ed is like comparing feces to gold

[@MmartinL]

​@@Unmasking_ViandalismeIrrelevant to you. Seems like he is relevant to many other people.

[@VeganExcellence663]

@@Unmasking_Viandalisme 🤡 = you

[@Unmasking_Viandalisme]

@@MmartinL That Ed is relevant, to many, isn't a personal concern.

[@Militant_Vegan]

I will never understand how plants have feelings but fish don’t Edit: come on y’all ur smarter than this.. When we get injured, our pain receptors release neurotransmitters. These neurotransmitters then transmit a signal to the thalamus (part of the brain). The thalamus then sends that signal to other areas of the brain to be processed. Once the brain has received and interpreted this signal, the brain sends a “personalized pain signal” (simplest way to describe it) back to the nerves-It is *only now* that you will feel pain. *You’re brain is what creates the sensation of pain.* Everything else simply gives your brain information so that your brain can decide when, where, and how intense you should feel the pain. Saying plants can feel pain is like saying plants can have kidney stones. You need a brain to feel pain, and you need kidneys to have kidney stones. Not to mention that they also need to be sentient in order to *experience* pain. There is absolutely no reason to believe plants are any more sentient than my skin is. And honestly sentience is what really matters, the ability to feel pain is just an added reason why hurting animals is double fxcked up.

[@robinwallace7097]

Right?! 😆 🤣

[@Ankesadventures]

😂

[@tim.noonan]

That’s not really their argument; if plants have feelings then vegans are hypocrites. Never mind that mammals are infinitely closer in their experience to that of humans, and can feel orders of magnitude more pain compared to plants, no matter how you look at it. As long as vegans are wrong, meat eaters are morally justified to do whatever the hell they want in their own eyes.

[@Veganweedwizard]

I mean isn’t it obvious didn’t your grass tell you good morning today?

[@lizwillis215]

exactly !

[@BrianTurnerOfficial]

Keep doing your thing Vegan Jesus

[@mussersbowsboatsandscience6610]

My thought exactly

[@incognitosecret2377]

Although the real Jesus probably looked far more arab. If he did in fact exist.

[@swasfu867]

jesus was a vegan

[@ElliottPiano]

Ed turned me vegan overnight 3 years ago and this has been one of best choices I ever took My girlfriend followed me also and we are so happy , super succesfull and incredibly healthy. In some decades we will be disgusted at what we did to animals and the planet to make the lobbies happy.. Bless you Ed

[@Marine_Veteran_Vegan_Gamer]

That's tight. ✌🏾✌🏾

[@keeganitreal]

Good for you 👏

[@LisaCooper-thevegan-123]

Same here! My husband and I went vegan overnight thanks to Ed and Joey C!👏😊👍♥️

[@TyeMorrisVlog]

Ed was instrumental in my decision to go vegan, and recently my wife followed me into veganism ! Ed is an amazing human being

[@LisaCooper-thevegan-123]

@@TyeMorrisVlog Here here! He's the best vegan advocate!😊👏👍

[@wasupfrom5558]

I think we should give the guy some credit. Most of the times, people with a hundred anti-vegan arguments do not listen and agree with Ed as this guy did. I was expecting him to keep going with his arguments and finish the debate thinking he was right all along. Yet, he ended agreeing with Ed which was quite refreshing. Hope he is able to take the next step and go vegan!! Masterclass as usual from Ed.

[@dear9530]

I agree, he actually took time to debate. I'm hoping he'll think more about it after the conversation and some who think he's right will see his reasons to eat animals aren't really all that logical. 🤔

[@robsengahay5614]

I think he deserves a lot of credit for the way that he assimilated the arguments and reached a conclusion. I doubt that he possesses the moral fortitude at this time of his life to actually be vegan as this means going against his family and peer group who presumably all eat animals and always will. But he has the potential because, like me, he is so appalled at the way animals are treated by the billion and you simply cannot buy any animal products in the grocery stores without knowing that you are funding and tacitly supporting that treatment. Giving up animal products is actually surprisingly easy when you remind yourself why you are doing it. The only problem to overcome is those social occasions and our meat eating culture. But it is slowly becoming easier to be vegan even in a backwards conservative (with a small c) State in Australia where I live.

[@BlueNorth313]

@@robsengahay5614 I agree, he deserves a lot of credit for that, and I'd go even further; I think you underestimate his moral fortitude. I think he seems very capable of going vegan despite what his social group thinks or does. Not saying it'll be easy, but he seems to already fully see the moral inconsistencies of eating animals. That's the hardest part, to not be vegan once you've made the connections.

[@Mike-hn7vc]

I wish more people would leave replies like this instead of bashing the intervewee. I'm sure if this guy is even remotely thinking about veganism, he's found this comment section. It would be so much better if the comments were about his willingness to listen as opposed to how "dumb" all of his arguments were. 90% of us had the same arguments before we thought them through.

[@BlueNorth313]

@@Mike-hn7vc Exactly. He already seems to be open and considering it, being petulant about how "dumb" his arguments were is beating a dead horse.

[@laurainman3244]

"Does a pig have to be killed for us to come together?" Exactly! Ridiculous to kill to be social.

[@natfrog]

@@rondarkman.why are you always in the comment section here.. your comments are cringe and immature. wouldn’t be surprised if you’re a 12 year old boy who never even cooked a meal.

[@ashishverma9840]

I liked this guy. He heard, he debated.. when doubts are cleared. He opted in for vegan. Intially it would be tough. But when going get tough, tough get going

[@WakeEntry]

Exactly. I was Jeff at one point as many of us were. He seems open to the idea of going vegan and it seems like he's making the step in the right direction.

[@BrianPeiris]

This conversation seems particularly good for sharing with others. Thanks!

[@benlocker4493]

Ed your candor and empathy is amazing. I dabbled in veganism for a while until I found your videos. After listening to the way you explain the argument for veganism, I felt so empowered to make the change completely. 2+ years now and haven't looked back. Thank you for all you do!

[@donolonisa5787]

Every minute animals were getting slaughtered across the globe as Shitty Veganism is flushing down the Toilet bowl 🚽

[@WorldOfARandomVegan]

That's awesome!

[@CuteCatsofIstanbul]

'The cows are destroying the world' - that sentence made me so sad. People blame these innocent creatures yet again, instead of looking in the mirror and their plate and going 'mmm, it's ME! I have the power to change me, the power to change the world'.

[@BlueNorth313]

So true.

[@rondarkman.]

Eat kangaroo instead

[@BlapwardKrunkle]

@@rondarkman. Your whole account consists of nothing but attempts to trigger vegans. It’s like you fantasize about our reactions to when you say vaguely anti-vegan shit. What traumas have you had to endure to end up like this? Or are you paid by the meat industry? I’m honestly baffled bc ur not the only one I’ve seen.

[@MasterMoron]

Cows aren't innocent. Cows will eat animals too if given the opportunity.

[@SkarKingWhips]

If all carnivores are gone, the planet would collapse as the massive increase of herbivores would deplete all the plants and the herbivores would die afterwards and since no plants, no vegans either! And also kzbin.info6zyaapwWPcs?feature=share

[@prettynoose888]

This guy is definitely someone who would go vegan but unfortunately, I think his fear of not fitting in with friends and family will prevent him from not going vegan...this is the conundrum for many, many potential vegans.

[@donolonisa5787]

Going Vegan didn't prevent deliiiiiiiiiiiiciouuuuuuuuus steak 🥩🥩🥩🥩🥩🥩🥩🥩🥩 from appearing on my dinner plate 😊

[@prettynoose888]

@@donolonisa5787 I don't get your comment🤔

[@donolonisa5787]

@@prettynoose888 Because you're blind, and cannot see how across the globe Animals were getting slaughtered every minute 😉

[@sylvaingilbert6296]

Agreed; people will tell me to my face that they "can't " do it because friends and family 🙄 and they don't understand how I can keep being vegan ... it is sad actually

[@prettynoose888]

@@sylvaingilbert6296 Shows you have a much stronger personality.🙂

[@fletchet555]

I wish I could debate like Ed. With his calm demeanour gently guiding the meat eater down the rabbit hole. The vegan community are so grateful for having an advocate like him.

[@DoctorOnkelap]

if he ever snaps Ed might eat the carnist to save other animals...

[@timtreefrog9646]

Vegan Jesus...That is all.

[@MnyFrNthng]

Hahaha. Exactly my feeling every time I watch his videos. I was like, how can he stay so cool hearing these same dumb arguments over and over again. 🙂

[@donolonisa5787]

Ed is a looooooooooooooooooooooooser 😊

[@DoctorOnkelap]

@@donolonisa5787 thank you for proving again that carnism rots the brain you argumentless barbarian

[@devnull6938]

lions do not distinguish between piglets, chicken, calf, lamb or puppy dogs.

[@doggodoggo3000]

I know a lady who's brother was eaten by a lion.

[@jajkc]

I have absolutely no idea how you stay so calm and collected having listened to the same arguments over and over again, it’s a real testament to your character.

[@ryandury]

Ed, I honestly think you are one of the best debaters on youtube: I feel like your audience would greatly benefit from a YT video on how to approach these conversations. Too often, people lose arguments / support because of their approach to conversations rather than their actual points. Cheers

[@lifelikejosie]

YES

[@Wackaz]

Thank you so much for everything you do Ed. You're genuinely a hero. I can't express how grateful I am toward you for your sensitive compassion, indefatigability, integrity and dignity, all for the animals above all else, but even for humanity and our world. For all that you have achieved and taught over the years, you're an extremely important individual and one of the very best. May God bless you. Vegan forever ✊💚

[@TheWorldTeacher]

Yes, Mr. Edward “Winters” Gaunt’s understanding of metaethics is beyond reproach, which explains why he condones the MURDER of poor, innocent humans before they have the opportunity to even see the light of day. 👶 The fact that he repeatedly asserts that “humans are animals” shows what an abject hypocrite is that MURDEROUS sinner. 😩 Furthermore, it is debatable whether Ed is truly vegan in his outlook, since he recently stated on the national television programme, GBNews, that he believes we ought NOT ban animal agriculture! “I’m not even saying that we should ban meat, dairy and eggs right now”. Mr. Ed Gaunt, So-called “VEGAN” activist. 😐 kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZ2YeKOugb2hq6s Go to the 8:15 mark.

[@rondarkman.]

😂😂😂😂

[@Mrm1985100]

Summary of every interview with Earthling Ed: 1. Person uses some dumb argument 2. Ed cooly and calmly debunks said argument 3. Person uses some dumb argument 4. Ed cooly and calmly debunks said argument Repeat until end of interview. Ed kindly says goodbye to person who spent the entire interview making up ludicrous and untenable arguments against veganism

[@EmoCatXP]

So true, as soon as I realised every argument i had to eat animals fell apart with his logic, I couldn't justify it anymore

[@BennettMats]

Ed tried to summarize the Jeff's argument into "we can base our morality on the actions of wild animals" which was a strawman of his argument. What Jeff said was that there was nothing inherently immoral about eating meat given the fact that many creatures prey on others for sustenance and that humans once did as well. It seems like a summary of Ed interviewing people should be: 1. Person makes an unsophisticated argument. 2. Ed strawman's their argument and then attacks it. 3. Person doesn't defend their position because Ed moves on to another argument.

[@VeganExcellence663]

@@BennettMats How is it a straw man when you literally described the same exact argument one sentence later in your post?

[@pascalschmierer3035]

​@@BennettMatshis summary isn't a strawman, it is literally the correct summary

[@BennettMats]

@@pascalschmierer3035Jeff never said that we can get our morality from the animal kingdom. Only that eating meat was natural for human beings.

[@olavrask9729]

Ed my god you are good - "do you agree with the fact that you moral and values are already in alignment with veganisme" - fantastic

[@Empathy4Animals411]

Fish have longer attention spans than most people walking around checking their text messages every 3 seconds. Pufferfish create beautiful and intricate works of art on ocean floors that most humans could only hope to duplicate. If this guy can read a book, I'd suggest "What a Fish Knows" by Jonathan Balcombe.

[@rondarkman.]

And they are delicious

[@donolonisa5787]

But first, let's see if The King 👑 of the ocean 🦈🦈🦈🦈🦈🦈🦈🦈🦈🦈🦈🦈🦈🦈🦈🦈🦈🦈🦈🦈🦈can become Vegan 😊

[@Jonty-kq4fr]

"If this guy can read a book" Did you have to be so condescending?

[@db1996]

@@rondarkman.so funny and edgy . imagine receiving so little attention in your real life you have to get off on trolling on youtube comments. here’s the validation you so clearly are desperate for :)

[@rondarkman.]

@db1996 Wow just wow are you are ok? Stating fish are delicious is not trolling or being edge, it's just stat a fact. Calm down would you

[@SerenaRaquel22]

Based on the title, I thought this guy was going to infuriate me lol, but honestly, he seemed very open-minded and it was a great, productive discussion! I was pleasantly surprised.

[@Aashishkebab]

The "plants have feelings" one is always so hilarious.

[@marishasveganworld2240]

Agreed 😂😂😂

[@nightblade4713]

Nope, because we can't actually know whether they have feelings, we only guess they don't because they don't have human facial expressions or vocalizations to express feelings if they have them

[@newspeak518]

@@nightblade4713 But animals do have expressions and body language. So we definitely know that they have feelings and are conscious beings. Plants really don't , there are multiple studies that show that plants lack consciousness.

[@robinwallace7097]

@nightblade4713 So, you don't think a central nervous system is necessary for intelligence? Or that intelligence required for processing the experience of pain?

[@Meesterlijker]

​@@nightblade4713could you perhaps watch the video and learn a thing or two?

[@brendarowley1751]

There’s no humane way to kill an animal that doesn’t want to die

[@MustardSkaven]

And the sky is blue... Everything that lives has some kind of drive to stay alive.

[@donolonisa5787]

Say's a Herbivore, that pooped 💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩 at the first sight of a Carnivore BEHEMOTH 🦾🦾🦾🦾🦾🦾🦾🦾🦾🦾🦾🦾🦾🦾🦾🦾

[@patula3499]

What if we aborted their fetuses and ate them instead?

[@jimmyobrien8738]

Yeah I know the pesticide holocaust is inhumane

[@sarahcusack]

only carnivore argument: "Mmm meat so good! U mad vegan??".. same as conservatives, only strategy is "look how horrible of a person I'm being, are you triggered??"

[@MaggieLCLC]

After being vegan for 3 years I just don’t understand why people keep using the wild animal comparison as an excuse. We aren’t wild!

[@keepernod2888]

Just because we don't live outside, and most have nice apartments means we aren’t wild? Look at wars, and how many people we slaughtered.

[@LaNoireDetruit]

@@keepernod2888 In this context "wild" refers to our everyday lives and the options we have through the structures we built. You are not wild - you shop at a supermarket.

[@MatthewWilkinson-rc5qf]

​@LaNoireDetruit I guess your supposedly civilized fellow people aren't following your civilized vegan diet, huh? Maybe people aren't as capable as you think. Also, vegans kill animals through habitat loss and human supremacy in general. So I'm not particularly interested in being dictated ethics by animal murderers.

[@CarnismDebunked]

"The only argument there is against veganism, is that you just don't give a sh**"

[@suicune2001]

Yep. "I don't care if I torture and kill animals for my entertainment. I don't care if I die in my 50's with one leg because it got amputated from diabetes. I don't care if I'm feeding my children poison. I don't care about the lives of humans who die from zoonotic diseases or antibiotic resistance. I don't care I'm destroying the planet. I don't care all the animals I'm eating a diseased AF and were legally fed cannibalism and plastic and growth hormones. All I care about is bacon cheeseburgers." I mean, damn. That seems like a lot of effort to care THAT little but some people somehow managed it.

[@TheWorldTeacher]

Yes, Mr. Edward “Winters” Gaunt’s understanding of metaethics is beyond reproach, which explains why he condones the MURDER of poor, innocent humans before they have the opportunity to even see the light of day. 👶 The fact that he repeatedly asserts that “humans are animals” shows what an abject hypocrite is that MURDEROUS sinner. 😩 Furthermore, it is debatable whether Ed is truly vegan in his outlook, since he recently stated on the national television programme, GBNews, that he believes we ought NOT ban animal agriculture! “I’m not even saying that we should ban meat, dairy and eggs right now”. Mr. Ed Gaunt, So-called “VEGAN” activist. 😐 kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZ2YeKOugb2hq6s Go to the 8:15 mark.

[@suicune2001]

@@TheWorldTeacher You do know you can embed a time stamp in the link, right? Also, whether someone is pro-choice has nothing to do with veganism. And he said RIGHT NOW wouldn't be a good time to ban animal agriculture. Know why? Because reactive meatflakes would probably riot and cause more violence. Also, our politicians are bought and paid for and would never ban it anyway.

[@scrubadubchuck]

This is the most true comment I’ve read in KZbin

[@robinwallace7097]

Even that argument doesn't hold water because, on closer inspection, they do care about things, whether that's the environment or cruelty to their own pets. Just a lot of cognitive dissonance and willful ignorance, that's all I can come up with.

[@samdaniels2]

This is really the debate equivalent to throwing shit at a wall until it sticks.

[@DasRL]

and the wall was teflon

[@MqKosmos]

Im confused about which one of the two is advocating for veganism now They both make good points for veganism 😂

[@OilCanHarry2U]

Perfect!

[@mrSam3ooo]

Ed is a living hero, just his patience and empathy alone is legendary. I really believe if he keeps going he will be remembered in the history books for a being a special human being who changed the world

[@donolonisa5787]

Yeah, Alexander The Great, Julius Caesar, Ghenghis khan, Napoleon Bonaparte and The Vegetarian Austrian painter try to rule the world with their ideologies as the rule of law, by looking at Ed the only thing that he would change, was this 💩🚽🧻

[@WorldOfARandomVegan]

Yes❤❤❤❤

[@betterechoes]

The fact that there is one mic is awesome. I feel like it very much limits talking over each other, which is important in big moral discussions like this!

[@luisagrajaleswilkes1494]

He expresses himself well. I hope the seed has been planted and will grow. It was a very fluid chat, and Ed as usual, uses positive wording throughout. Brilliant

[@keeganitreal]

No matter how many of these conversations we watch, non-vegan arguments all fit the same criteria. They are unoriginal, been debunked a million times, and make you sound like a psychopath when you use the logic on humans. Stop trying to find a reason to keep doing the wrong thing. There is no excuse for unnecessarily harming animals.

[@PauLtus_B]

It's just tiring... "But I bet you haven't thought about this argument, vegans!" Yes, yes we have, we've encountered that a lot. People somehow don't seem to realise that most vegans were not raised that way nor enthusiastically jumped into it but had to be convinced ourselves.

[@alisiademi]

Well said ❤

[@keeganitreal]

@@alisiademi ❤️

[@denizkenger52]

There’s no excuse for unnecessarily harming plants either.

[@deepseadarew6012]

@@denizkenger52 Plants don't have a nervous system...

[@leylalo4927]

I think this guy was respectful and listen really well

[@MCRMarauder]

Damn, it’s been a while since I’ve heard the argument about the teeth we have 🤣

[@Empathy4Animals411]

Muh canines tho

[@MnyFrNthng]

This guy was pretty informed about the issues about environmental destruction, factory farming, etc. compared to the most of the society. He is thinker. I find him pretty open minded. I hope he makes the leap to quit a bad habit that has been ingrained in us since our childhood and by traditions.

[@Ann-jl4dz]

Jeff was thoughtful and honest, and I wish him success in finding out how great plant-based options are. Jeff may read these comments so to anyone who posts, let’s be encouraging and show some vegan💚

[@tofutuesday]

I always wonder if any of these people have any idea of what they are getting into when they sit down to talk with Ed. Like, do they expect an easy, heated debate that they are going to win? I'm guessing most don't expect to be listened to and spoken to with such calm and kindness. Also, I wish he would announce when he's going to be in Phoenix! I'd love to meet him

[@veganfortheanimals6994]

I filled out my Carnist Bingo card with Geoff's talking points, but Ed masterfully peeled away those layers to reveal how Geoff really feels, which is how most people actually feel, once their talking points crumble and fall to pieces

[@rondarkman.]

Meh I still enjoy delicious animals play bingo all you want😂😂😂

[@samperry2305]

What a great conversation. A great exchange in ideas. Ed is amazing and I appreciate how he helps people connect the dots. Please keep spreading the word. I'm on board!❤👍

[@housevibez8828]

Seems like a cool guy, he was pretty open for discussion.

[@jonjonwp]

Well i liked this guy, he didn't at the start realise he was already in a vegan mindset but he was guided skilfully by Ed to that conclusion. I'm hopeful he will act now. Good debate with an intelligent guy.

[@libertyvegan6686]

Earthling Ed is the best vegan activist IMO. His calm demeanor and effective communication skills make him above and beyond anyone else at effectively communicating the philosophy. I would like to see him explore the foundation principles of the moral argument for veganism more though. Defining those principles will help him connect with others from different walks of life better who hold those same foundational principles in other aspects of their life.

[@allandm]

Ed is definitely the best, 'Natalie Fulton' and 'Debug your brain' are also really good in their outreach. It's worth checking them out if you haven't already

[@xyaobitsss]

Also "the victims Perspektive" on YT

[@donolonisa5787]

Ed is a looooooooooooooooooooooooser 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Esmayye]

I just became a patreon member!Thank you for all your hard work, Ed! The way you carry yourself when discussing Veganism is just amazing. Keep going!

[@xrealnessx]

imagine sitting down unknowingly with the GOAT of animal ethics conversations haha. love whenever you upload these. Thanks ed, my partner and you were the two who convinced me to go vegan and i am so happy i am.

[@unlimitedhangout5]

Vegan goat? How does THAT work 🤔

[@xrealnessx]

@@unlimitedhangout5 lol

[@akhnatenpage4854]

​@unlimitedhangout5 goats are vegan yes?

[@akhnatenpage4854]

@pacmanmcgavin7034 this "conman" is advocating for things we genuinely believe in. And doing do in a way that is good reasonable conversation. Argue the points, not the person.

[@lecameleondeslangues3006]

I've already watched hundreds of your interviews, and I have already had thousands of discussions on the topic, and yet, I will never grow tired of watching you so cleverly discuss with meat-eaters. Thank you for educating the world!

[@Stratosphere07]

Thank you as always Ed. I don't think I've seen someone else with the ability to so succinctly describe the arguments of veganism in a calm and descriptive manner. You helped me become vegan 2 years ago and I'm glad you still are helping countless others make the switch.

[@donolonisa5787]

Helping countless others didn't stop animal slaughter across the globe 😊

[@TNvegan1958]

​@@donolonisa5787 If you're (chronologically- speaking), an adult, -then do you actually NEED for the (meaning) of the saying, "The 'perfect', is the enemy of the 'good'", -to be explained to you? -Unless perfection is possible, right-outa the starting gate, just triumphantly point to THAT fact, as excuse to do NOTHING...(?) -Really?.. REALLY?! "Closedmindedness and LACK of good-faith research, are the world's chief 'laborsaving- devices'."

[@lorah3005]

👍 Plant based for the environment, whole food plant based for health, vegan for the victims.

[@donolonisa5787]

I don't think so 😉

[@shanesalyers5433]

I really appreciate the calm and candor of the arguments laid out here by Ed. I am not a vegan. I spent a year as a vegetarian and another year as a pescetarian before coming back to meat (unimportant, but context for my experience). I grew up on a small cattle ranch and have seen the capacity for cruelty in the industry, which led me to try out the alternative eating habits. I personally have no moral objection with consuming other organisms for sustenance, but I am really intrigued by this channel and will continue to learn and educate myself on the subject. I just wanted to say this channel is very interesting and I hope you keep engaging the public and challenging societal standards to improve the world around us. Much love man!

[@TNvegan1958]

Much love back-atcha, Shane.. May we all keep learning and growing, and resisting all brainwashing intended to have us arbitrarily limit our circle of compassion.. 😊

[@karmicbreath]

I've been an imperfect vegan for years. As of mid-July, I've been absolutely on it. I've lost 15-20 pounds. My body has much lower body fat. I've never looked so lean and cut. My energy levels have been incredible. Everyone doesn't believe me when I tell them how old I am. I never have to worry about getting food poisoning from bad poultry. I'm not consuming growth hormones and antibiotics through my food. I'm sure my hormones are the most balanced they've ever been.

[@timtreefrog9646]

A lot of long term vegans I know look very young 😊 People say it to me also. My face gets washed in the shower and that is it. No creams, clensers foaming lotions etc etc. I don't use anything. 😂

[@notfarfromgone1]

If more folks called it like you do "an imperfect vegan" we'd have way less suffering. But because people are dogmatic, purist, and really not in it for the animals/environment, typical (eat and don't think) folks don't even give it a try or worse, hate on it ceaselessly. Gratitude.

[@MatiasHamreSveen]

Great work as always, Ed! Really like this guy. He admitted the flaws in his arguments, didn't desperately try to come up with more and more excuses and sounded like he already knew some things about these issues.

[@WitchyyChick]

I love how non-judgemental and civil you approach debates. You are able to make people question their own actions/morals without making them feel like you're judging them. That approach has undoubtedly helped you convince people who other activists could not.

[@housevibez8828]

ED is a real professor at debating.

[@donolonisa5787]

A looooooooooooooooooooooooser professor 😊

[@bruise_willis]

With college students everyone is lmao

[@lauradoyle-t1s]

i adore the kindness and respect in this debate ❤ scaring people and yelling at them will only make them more stubborn and closed minded instead of welcoming them to the idea if veganism

[@rebelvgan4579]

Great conversation Ed and Geoff ☺🌱

[@shoobamocha]

it's pathetic how people will agree that animals shouldn't be killed but don't care enough to actually change their diet and make an impact

[@marcdeneus977]

The kid seems very knowledgeable about the animal agriculture industry. Great conversation. Hope he makes the switch.

[@donolonisa5787]

Hope 8 billion Carnist across the globe make the switch 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@leeduli]

We're gonna need a bigger bingo board

[@biggregg5]

Ed, you are always so eloquent. I really wish people would take the time to honestly reflect on their answers and see the flaws.

[@M13337]

I think Geoff seemed like a very intelligent and nice guy. Much more educated than I was before going vegan in certain questions raised here. He had some arguments that needed to be debated. But he listened to Eds counter arguments and seemed to take what Ed said seriously. We shouldn’t call his arguments ”dumb” as I see some people write here. Remember like 95% of all not-yet-pro-vegans come equipped with similar arguments. It’s not because they’re dumb, it’s because they are taught to believe these things since childhood as well as through constant indoctrination campaigns from the animal-industry. Before having the great fortune of stumbeling upon a legend like Ed who challenges your unquestioned beliefs and can help you connect the dots, how is a non-vegan supposed to find the right way? It needs to be prompted. It won’t happen automatically. Please, let’s all help keep the vegan community nice and welcoming, so that people will feel compelled to join and be willing to associate themselves with being ”vegan”. This is the way 🤓😊🖖😎🚀

[@Icelandchan]

I stumbled upon your book and I read it. What got me the most was the impact we have on our environment. I already knew that the suffering of animals is terrible but to read about the destruction of our planet, that broke my heart. Furthermore, I wasn't aware of the exploitation of other humans in the food industry. Unfortunately, I'm still on my way to veganism since the change isn't that easy for me. But I became vegetarian and try to get vegan options whenever I can.

[@tylerjcranford]

Another banger, Ed. Keep up the good work. We learn so much from you. ❤

[@donolonisa5787]

Ed is a looooooooooooooooooooooooser😊

[@tylerjcranford]

@@donolonisa5787 why do you think that?

[@donolonisa5787]

@@tylerjcranford Well, I just saw an assembly line of pigs getting butchered, but I never see Ed intervened 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@tylerjcranford]

@@donolonisa5787 so, you don't think he's doing good work because he can't be everywhere at once? What was he supposed to do?

[@donolonisa5787]

@@tylerjcranford Be a great looooooooooooooooooooooooser who failed to prevent pork chops from appearing in my dinner plate 😉

[@HOWITSDONE_TV]

The farming industry has really brainwashed a lot of people hasn’t it

[@VeganExcellence663]

@@pacmanmcgavin7034 95% of food advertising, marketing, commercials are all animal industry associated. You’ve been marketed animal products for 100 years.

[@donolonisa5787]

How's that brainwashing 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@irish_deconstruction]

​​@@donolonisa5787People are brainwashed to think that the animals are happy with their circumstances. If it wasn't for people like Ed, nobody would know any different.

[@donolonisa5787]

@@irish_deconstruction People have been eating animal meat products for billions of years before Vegan's like Ed in disposal diapers that pooped 💩 a lot where born yesterday 😉

[@LaNoireDetruit]

@@donolonisa5787 It's exactly brainwashing. Smiling happy cows on milk bottles, anyone?

[@roselaura-gracesing4968]

Great conversation. It takes courage to question our beliefs. #veganforever

[@donolonisa5787]

Vegan beliefs = 💩

[@zanderinofilms]

Nice one Jeff! If you’re reading the comments, bravo for having an open mind and for digging deep into your justifications

[@Phoebexoxx]

Hi I went to the weatherspoons in Huyton and I seen ur KZbin written on the toilet door so I subscribed 😁🥰

[@Kurleykath]

It’s so nice to see this. I had my first conversation yesterday where it felt like the opposing side was truly understanding vegan logic. Props to you my friend, keep up the good work🙌🏽🌞🌿🧚🏽‍♂️

[@Phainou7]

Nice job Ed. Thank you for raising awareness

[@rondarkman.]

Lol

[@Phainou7]

@@rondarkman. Thank you for your support ;)

[@veganaktivisten]

You're a magician, Vegan Jesus! You really made him turn around. Great conversation, from both ends.

[@macaw6718]

excellent conversation. very thought provoking. many thanks.

[@kace9075]

This was brilliant!!!! Informative and also fun at times ;)

[@luismiguelandrew]

Thanks Ed for all your activism for the voiceless. That is a great social skill that I wish to have. I have been vegan in my hearth since childhood but only went completely vegan in 2012 when I saw Gary Yourofsky best speech ever. When Gary said to people who believes are meat eaters “Give it up, it’s not funny and it’s not cute” my life changed for good. Vegan for the last 12 years and feeling extraordinary ❤

[@ReasonMakes]

Ed, thank you for everything you do. You're a continuing source of inspiration for so many, and you're catalyzing real change for the benefit of all animals.

[@beanburrito8903]

What a peaceful conversation ❤

[@nadiawilliams5865]

Yess!!!! Love the way Ed approaches activism! Some just have it within them to do it. (I'm not the best activist in this type of situation, I might hit someone over the head with a book or something😆, so I can really REALLY appreciate those within our community who do activism like this)

[@kaizenweisz2120]

Hello Ed. Thank you for your work. For me, it's respectful and essential to have eye contact when communicating on important topics. One side wearing sunglasses seems to add an unnecessary wall between the parties, when you're both trying to do your best to understand each other and get closer. Just found your channel so I'm looking forward to finding more open air interviews where both sides are eyeball to eyeball ❤

[@veganism]

As the Official Veganism Channel of KZbin, I approve of this video 💚🌱👍

[@rondarkman.]

Meh ,I approve of roasted baby pig

[@veganism]

@@rondarkman. I fully understand where you are coming from. You feel attacked and you think people who don’t want to eat meat are woke lunatics..I get it. Have you ever considered though that you might have been brainwashed by what you see on TV, just like those "woke maniacs" you want to make fun of? Throughout history, we've witnessed horrible events depending on the time people were born into. Today is no different. In the past, people endured slavery, Nazi atrocities, and persecution for their sexual preferences. Currently, we need to address how we treat all other life forms that we share this world with. The American Dietetic Association states that a vegan diet can lead to vibrant health, adding 10 more years of vitality. Who is filling hospitals with health issues like diabetes, stroke, heart disease, high blood pressure, and high cholesterol? Is it people who eat fruits and veggies? Nope! It’s people who consume dead bodies. Please consider that it’s possible that you have been brainwashed by the meat industry. In the past, commercials like "Milk Does a Body Good" were popular, but today, many are turning to plant-based milks due to concerns that indeed milk actually does a body bad! As a self-proclaimed "soy boy," I'm living proof of the benefits of a vegan lifestyle with flawless blood work and excellent health. True strength lies in being a leader and thinking for ourselves, rather than blindly following the crowd. So, in conclusion, let's each think independently and make informed choices. Thank you reading this!

[@timtreefrog9646]

He was already halfway there. Knew a lot of facts. Hates factory farming. ❤

[@ZENJUTSUU]

YOU DID IT ED, YOU CHANGED HIM BY PLANTING A SEED. LETS GOOOO

[@rondarkman.]

Planting a seed 😂😂😂😂 far out

[@ZENJUTSUU]

@@rondarkman. bro seemed pretty receptive by the end of it! I’m not gonna cap!

[@rondarkman.]

@ZENJUTSUU I'd be willing to bet the night he gets home he will have consumed animal products

[@ZENJUTSUU]

@@rondarkman. i feel like you’re misunderstanding what I mean by planting a seed. but it’s cool haha. I don’t expect people to transition from such a big chnge overnight. that’s for sure

[@bradkrupsaw]

That was one of the most beautiful, small epiphanies that I have seen. You were stunningly persuasive, Ed, in your crystal clear, patient and respectful manner. At first the kid made me groan with his non-sequiturs and unwitting listing of all the ol' "anti-vegan arguments." But as the discussion progressed, I grew to respect this kid and felt a warm place in my heart for him. It was an awakening before my eyes. Thanks for everything, Ed. I never stop learning from you.

[@lukenysen]

Most plant consumption doesn’t kill plants. Fruits, nuts, and seeds are a symbiotic relationship between plants and animals… and grains and beans are seasonal plants that complete their natural life cycles before being harvested and resowed.

[@di_kid00]

It’s the non-judgmental and open discussion that allows for critical observation of the choices we make in food, like consuming meat, that makes it so easy to begin eating plant-based foods. No putting down or insults to anyone’s character or intelligence, but an exploration of old beliefs and biases. It’s cool how Ed does that.

[@laurar9748]

Ed brings it, yet again! 🥰

[@TheWorldTeacher]

Yes, Mr. Edward “Winters” Gaunt’s understanding of metaethics is beyond reproach, which explains why he condones the MURDER of poor, innocent humans before they have the opportunity to even see the light of day. 👶 The fact that he repeatedly asserts that “humans are animals” shows what an abject hypocrite is that MURDEROUS sinner. 😩 Furthermore, it is debatable whether Ed is truly vegan in his outlook, since he recently stated on the national television programme, GBNews, that he believes we ought NOT ban animal agriculture! “I’m not even saying that we should ban meat, dairy and eggs right now”. Mr. Ed Gaunt, So-called “VEGAN” activist. 😐 kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZ2YeKOugb2hq6s Go to the 8:15 mark.

[@bestbehave]

Ooooh vegan bingo! Hang on, I’ll go get me card.

[@OOtwiga]

I love all these debates/conversations. Ed, you are definitely the best at it. I hope we can see your eyes in the next one. That would probably be better for the person sitting in front of you also. Easier to connect that way x

[@svenvanrossen7484]

Great job, Ed! Thanks so much for leading the charge!

[@galkinp]

March 2020, fell on games changers, what the health and then on earthling Ed asking if taste is more important than life... It clicked.. vegan overnight! ❤

[@KyleLanmon]

Props to this guy. Ed just totally dismantled this guy's whole worldview and you can see him struggle with saying "my morals align with being vegan"

[@donolonisa5787]

Ed is a looooooooooooooooooooooooser 😊

[@TNvegan1958]

​@@donolonisa5787 Seeing such habitual nastiness outa you in your Comments, how (well, frankly, 'sad'), that it must be, to be in the mental 'place' you are, and in the pain that repeatedly overflows from you.. I and others hate the fact that that is happening with you.. Many of us, reading your repeatedly-nasty comments, hope for your evolution to a place of mental healing and happiness. -As is true for all of us, the personal responsibility for proactively seeking and embracing such, rests upon your OWN shoulders, and no one else's. Mere 'projection' never heals or banishes inner pain. Just needlessly prolongs it. What we find value in, we 'keep', painful or not. Until we no longer find value in it. Best of luck to you.

[@alisiademi]

Time to grab our anti-vegan bingo cards

[@RedPillsAreGood]

Had to pause the video to comment this here.. I love the way Ed opens up people's minds and awakens them to new ways of thinking and considering things.. just as he does here in this video.. Ed is very gentle and patient, and it's amazing to see. I admire him and how he communicates with people. ❤

[@CarasGaladhon]

Great conversation Jeff and Ed

[@JoylessPumpkin]

Masterful. Well done.

[@laurainman3244]

Let's remember that the hook for this kid was the images he had seen of factory farms. If people just open their eyes and look, they can make a start; they just have to realize there is no meat, dairy, egg, or fish consumption without cruelty and suffering-- there is no kind way of engaging in animal agriculture, and there is no humane way to kill someone. When they see a factory farm, they are looking at their consumer dollars at work.

[@rondarkman.]

All worth it for the taste

[@akhnatenpage4854]

​@vkb6352 just know you come across and rude and uncaring for life. Like a psychopath. Not saying you are one and maybe you didn't meant to come across that way. Just thought you should know.

[@KH-so4yg]

I completely agree that factory farming is awful. I was vegan for almost 7 years. Could never have dreamed to eat animals again. But then my health took a turn and found out that there are so many former vegans who have had their health deteriorate but feel better after eating an animal based diet again. Now I eat pasture raised as much as I can. I do think there is a moral justification for eating animals if you need to. I think Ed’s argument (and something that I agreed with for so long) is that we only do it for taste and that’s not always the case.

[@akhnatenpage4854]

@@KH-so4yg it's 2023. Doctor. Blood test. Supplement. Exercise. It's. Not. Hard. Don't. Fucking. Lie.

[@akhnatenpage4854]

@@KH-so4yg as for pasture raised: it doesn't really matter how nicely you treat them if you violate their right to life. Even animals living in shitty situations prefer to live.

[@owenteamtraceur]

Potential future vegan… this guy is switched on and honest enough to understand the negative impacts

[@Женя-ч5ф2ю]

*Why does he say that cows are artificially bred, but people violate natural rights when they eat them?* *Why killing a thousand plants brings less suffering to living organisms, than killing one artificial cow?*

[@Edaryion]

Splendid work as always, Ed!

[@professor_handricka]

I wonder how many of these interviews per day you can make. I admire your patience, especially because, if anyone would watch 3 of your videos, all the questions will be answered. It's the same topic over and over again. Have you ever heard an argument or a question that actually surprised you?

[@ieatomnivores]

Yes I think he was caught off guard by “red meat gives you bloodlust and humans need bloodlust to pass their engineering classes and to stop a communist invasion”

[@JungleJoeVN]

It really isn't difficult being vegan in cities or towns around the world. However, it is a little difficult once we get into the countryside of some countries, such as Vietnam where there are no vegan restaurants unless I travel 45 minutes one way and that kind of defeats the purpose. So, I have found that I needed to learn to cook things like tofu and learn how to roast peanuts and grow my own vegetables. Yes, it takes a bit of effort, but in the end it's all worth it.

[@Anna-xn8ds]

It really isn't hard if you at the very least have a middle-class income and you aren't allergic to most nuts, a variety of plants, and soy like some of us are. I think. If more vegan activists were like this guy and didn't act like pompous superior extremists, more people would be open to listening to them.

[@vietnamd0820]

The transition to a vegan world probably will be gradual…that said, as vegans, we want that transition to happen as quickly as possible …so let’s say Earthling Ed and other prominent vegans are on tv every day and the transition happens over months instead of years…sure, there will be a question of what do we do with all the animals in slaughterhouses…but I rather us be having that conversation then letting animals get slaughtered by the billions every year

[@rondarkman.]

8 billion non vegans in 2023 the world's never going vegan .. cope

[@vietnamd0820]

@@rondarkman. Vegans have logic and ethics on our side…but maybe you’re right, perhaps the world doesn’t go vegan…if that’s the case, it’ll be because people will value the taste of an animal over that animal’s life and happiness…a non-vegan humanity will also be worsening the problems of new pandemics, climate change, and antibiotic resistance

[@donolonisa5787]

Every minute, animals were getting slaughtered across the globe 😊

[@TheYellowBlueWhite]

@@vietnamd0820 just logic and ethics will never sway people. You have to do practical propaganda with a clear positive vision of the future, where there is no hunger and everyone is always satiated. The ethical argument will come along and will serve as a post-factum conclusion. By preaching moral superiority of veganism and compassion towards non-humans (which have been used by food industry for millennia and is mostly culturally acceptable) you will never appeal to other people, only to that minority that feels good by recognizing their moral stance. Open your eyes and realize that veganism is a political struggle and has to be treated by you vegans as such. Otherwise it will be only perceived as a religious cult

[@vietnamd0820]

@@TheYellowBlueWhite Earthling Ed seems to be effective with logic and ethics …but I’d be open to any ideas that get to a vegan world most quickly

[@pegbuckner5074]

Ed!!! Thank you, for your beautiful activism! I’m vegan for two years because of you!!! Thank you so much! ❤

[@taylorborgman7034]

Jeff seems so open-minded and I'm so happy he's looking to make some changes ❤

[@jameszivai1481]

Ahhh yes the appeal to nature fallacy to begin with. This is going to be a good one 😁

[@allandm]

He kept using it over and over again, but I think he understood why it was illogical at the end