Sorcerer Spells are breaking the game | Dark and Darker

[@ryan6daysaweek]

CORRECTION: It is supposed to be Lightning Storm (not Lightning Vortex at 0:38, so the icon and total duration damage will be different)! Sorry if that caused any confusion! This means 240 damage over 4 seconds and not 480 damage over 4 seconds! If you are confused why it is a 4 second channel time instead of 8, it is because spell casting speed also effects channeling speed/rate so the damage ticks are twice as fast PATCHED: Apex of Sorcery (Perk) has been reduced by 75% and Lightning Storn channeling duration, AoE radius, and damage have been reduced

[@ScaryGUY420]

lightning storm def op but it is so easy to dodge the flamefrost spear that even with good damage it should not be nerfed

[@dko-JackSkalington]

@@ScaryGUY420 Can legit just backstep and they're not using it for 13 seconds. lmao. Skill issue. Axe can do 100+ damage in 1 second.

[@Ajexious]

Sorc plater spotted​@@dko-JackSkalington

[@dko-JackSkalington]

@@Ajexious Terrible speller, spotted.

[@aegispisces8537]

this is a massive difference homie and not many people that see this are going to check the comments, love your work though dude

[@eyesllud]

Imagine if there was some sort of test server that players could test things before patches go live

[@ThomasIkemann]

The test server has little to no players on it, that's why they do not test on there anymore

[@im_kayt]

@@ThomasIkemann we have no motives to use the test servers, other games like sea of thieves give players exclusive itens for the playing in the test server. ironmace is just lazy or dumb, theres no other wqay around it

[@_WayneTheWizard_]

@@ThomasIkemann seems like hiring professional testers is the way to go instead of relying on your customers

[@Liz4rdMan]

They should encourage players to play in the test server or should hire testers for this. Another idea the option to play in test while production is under maintance.

[@Liz4rdMan]

Also they can make it so in test server you get unique and legendary very easily so you can test extreme cases or just have fun.

[@HotDogBunN2YG]

as someone who has put a lot of time into this game, i looked at the perk, the spells damage scaling, and knew it was busted immediately. so idk im having a hard time believing they dont realize what theyve created here. they got an entire build variant around giving up movement for high dmg casting and honestly thats probably the lamest build you couldve given a class that has so many options. sdf cannot get the idea of one taps being fun out of his head after being told countless times its not.

[@hypervi0let420]

its chili dawg time yayyuhh

[@ewok427]

Wow man you must be so sick at the game wow

[@thebiggboiii]

@@ewok427 sounds like hes just frustrated in the devs constantly dropping the ball on a game that should have been fucking amazing

[@Mustangmuller]

Couldn't agree more. I was at work and saw the patch notes on Discord before playing the game. Then I saw someone's video that they put up that showed the spells and perks prior to the servers being fully up and operational. As soon as I saw that I thought "yup, Sorcerer is busted and going to be insane". Same thing they constantly do... Just roll out completely, off the rails broken updates and go "oh gee, sorry" and will pull it back. I get it that there is no way a team that size can play test at the scale of the player base but this is a complete joke that they pushed this out. Whoever is balancing this should probably be fired at this point. If its SDF, I am starting to think we might all be better off if Nexon wins the lawsuit.

[@1215-v4r]

devs constantly say that they don't like short battles, reduce damage and increase armor, but still there are people this blind who claim that devs want one taps

[@XxMkyMTRxX]

Surely they tested sorcerer before releasing the class, right? Right??

[@oscaaar4313]

I can’t understand how this kind of stuff gets overlooked so often

[@neal520]

that would imply they actually play the game

[@saint_snow]

They didn't test anything otherwise they would have known this constant fill system is absolutely terrible as well.

[@danyyy_8733]

Honestly im done with this game.

[@kylelitton4797]

When Apex releases every single new legend it’s intentionally made op. They do it to draw in new and more players. I mean imagine they take this long to make a class and it’s trash ( that would look so much worse) They’ll nerf it I promise

[@yeayea115]

the only thing holding this spell back from being unstoppable is the cast-fail bugs that put it onto cooldown

[@aitsebtibijczyk1666]

Yeah this bug is rly annoying it cancel half of my storms

[@dustin1573]

Yeah feels like the only reason it’s somewhat balanced right now lol

[@swishersweet6870]

Let go of right click first then left

[@dustin1573]

@@swishersweet6870 wait is this actually the fix?

[@Sw1mm3rX]

Well summarized as always. The rolling spawn is a huge issue too, another player killed me in Crypts before I even finished spawning in

[@minimanto100]

I spawned into the pyramid room on ice caverns while another player was looting pve... Why am I spawning in a room with someone in it?

[@Drikkerbadevand]

The most predictable outcome from that update. It's so dumb. They have tslked about rolling spawns before and nobody liked the idea.. apawn everyone in at once so everyone has the same chance and its fair

[@sixstix965]

I think they're cool in practice but they should definitely give it some conditions like check room for players check spawn vicinity for players on the same level of dungeon spawn elsewhere without a dude staring at you yk

[@saligonth]

Don't let sorcerer detract from continuous dungeon being half baked, with spawns starting you in looted modules and third partying being a guarantee with the delayed spawns. If only there was a test server to discover these issues before being introduced to the main game...

[@TheStratoBarb]

not to mention spawning with someone 10 meters in front of you going your direction full speed

[@blackberrys9321]

thought about coming back after my few month break... I think ima just staaaaay gone...

[@nathanscarlett4772]

How I feel as well. This was an unbelievably awesome game and then it just tanked and died so fast. Hopefully a real Dev team can make what this game should have been, some day.

[@Phrax10k]

I did come back after a few months break. Played for 1 day and I'm done again.

[@Dread278]

I love you

[@DynaDere]

Me and my duos friend got one tap headshot from fullhealth by a single flamefrost spear Bro got a collateral

[@ryan6daysaweek]

o baby a double lmao

[@br9393]

What was the sorcerer's in game name? Do you remember?

[@stretchyjean5648]

If it was sorcyjean I apologize because that may have been me 😅

[@Johnny31323]

SDF's next change notes: Buffed Sorcerer so he can now move even when casting his spells. -All Sorcerer spells now have a 100% Magical Damage Bonus instead if 0%. -Sorcerer can now cast his spells on the whole map like Astra from Valorant, we think this will help since this class is so weak currently, can't even one tap. -Barbarians Magic Resist from Iron Will increased from 100% to 500%. This change is done because Barbarian is a very weak in our game and can't currently W+M1 any class. Finally, Nerfed Rogues all Stat Attributes by 5, Bleed is removed from the game, so is Hide, Cutthroat and Every other perk, He can also no longer Run, now whenever a Rogue attacks, he can't move just like Sorcerer. Also removed Rogue's Squire base Weapons. We think this change is mandatory because Rogue is OP and me as SDF keeps dying because of him because i can't W+M1 him with my Barbarian (you can) and I'm just so sick of a no skill based class Rogue. -Additonal patch notes, Rogue is removed from the game, Fighter now has base 90% PDR, Barbarian has 200 HP base, and Druid's Bear form has been nerfed to deal 1 Damage + (Damage Attribute%).

[@BigDan12]

With how Iron Mace balances the game, they'll probably buff the Sorcerer

[@Thylos]

and nerf rogue

[@deep_bob-wk6nh]

Well it's 1/4 as strong now. Seems like a big nerf

[@toebee7719]

lightning storm is the spell in gameplay if your confused by 0:38

[@LolSaiYes]

yea

[@ryan6daysaweek]

good catch, ill pin a message, thanks!

[@jeffadampreston]

​@@ryan6daysaweekit's also easy af to counter if you just w key the sorc using it because most aren't going to zap themselves.

[@kibblesthemagiccrayon835]

@@jeffadamprestonjust wait till they learn how to stack magic resistance or magical damage reduction then they can just run in and call lightning while hitting themselves 😂

[@jeffadampreston]

@kibblesthemagiccrayon835 idk if that'll work as well as you think. I melt even iron will barbs with the stationary perk and lightning storm. sorc already having high will means high base mdr so stacking that wouldn't be difficult to try. Might have to test it honestly.

[@mahcellus1241]

It’s a simple fix. There’s no good reason to have the apex magic perk which is what is causing this to go wrong. Super easy fix

[@drkspawn32]

The sorcerer really only has 1 good perk. The rest are crap. Sure this combo is dangerous but only really for players getting caught off guard.

[@SpookySkeletonDD]

I can’t believe you’re still following this game man…. They killed it

[@giustiziapersonale831]

In one single patch, continous matchamakin...

[@Delfofthebla]

Ironmace is so bad at game development man I swear to god. I try so hard to love this game but what other company makes mistakes this bad _every_ _single_ _patch_ ? Only Ironmace.

[@thailer6352]

Ya it blows my mind that the people who made such an amazing game to start with have now continued to make the worst decisions in game design that should be obviously bad ideas…..multiclassing, patch 69, and now continuous dungeons

[@tomatootamot]

I could name a few, but they all went out of business😅

[@giustiziapersonale831]

​@@thailer6352 im installing daungeonborne now, dad is dead, only pvp now, bosses is impossible

[@sordmasta6646]

I thought Ironmace was trying to stick to the DnD setting as much as practically possible. It should be the Wizard who gets the bigger arsenal and creating hybrid spells. While the Sorcerer should run around with only a couple spells, only with little downtime.

[@marellius2868]

thats what i thought when i saw the trailer. they went a little off-road with this one.

[@Phrax10k]

This game peaked during the playtests. Used to love it so much. Miss the old spawns, the old portals, the limited classes, bandages dot healing, the circle closing in to make everything more tense. DaD is a hollow boring shell of it's former self. They had lightning in a bottle and completely shattered and ruined it. It's just not as fun anymore. Too many bad design and balance choices. Sometimes devs don't know when to just leave shit alone and stop changing everything.. Sad.

[@dko-JackSkalington]

Gold and Glory comes out on the 8th of January. It's the lighting in a bottle.

[@alimoorad5998]

Well ..I got to check it out. Never heard of ir

[@pike9009]

Facts well said.

[@JohnSon-df3zz]

HOW DOES THIS GET PAST TESTING

[@Metal_Beard]

Testing? What testing

[@brycehenning]

This is why I’m not playing this season. Not going on this rollercoaster anymore

[@HerbalLeaf]

im glad you brought up the important topic of new player experience, IM devs never bother to respond to my DMs about this topic so thank you for looking out for the growth of the game.

[@RickeysVids]

Always a great vid! My go to source for detailed explanations on dark and darker!

[@adrianoss.bougas3720]

Biggest aoe in the game, like 5-10 times that of currrent lightning strike, instant cast with perk, 100% casting speed and immobile casting with another. Instakills a whole team. Sincerely do tell me how this got in the game? It takes one test to figure this out. If someone doesn't test it even, from the tooltip math it is obvious. How was this released..?

[@berserkingsoul9767]

yeah I literally am stupid and figured this out in 3 games on sorcerer by myself lol

[@kanadiacoolaid7902]

these game devs unfortunately balance in nuclear extremes.

[@GMcottv3]

When you are high on them zaza you ain't thinking about math, you're thinking sbout them hookers and coca. That's the SDF's brain most definitely, it's all the same as with his predecessor - Nikita Buyanov and EFT.

[@laurostephan4363]

i think that the dev team dont play this game, just introduce shit things that come out of they mind

[@-grizzly-7862]

also questioning why they have access to longsword aswell if you want a martial type of sword give the arming or shortsword or eve realease a scimitar for them to use this class can 1 v x cus of magic and also 2 tap with a sword cus parry op

[@richardpagel6959]

Yeah access to the longsword I also see quite problematic. Even for the warlock I already see it as too strong thou.

[@brandoxantana]

@@richardpagel6959 Warlock can wear armor though so it makes sense but for sorcerer oh hell nah

[@chaoticrevenge7950]

Im getting annoyed at SDF and the others being completely incapable of making good decisions for the game. This game should've been in a much better spot by now.

[@aidanknox2430]

sometimes ill open a chest hear a sorcerer and before I can even drop the menu and look up i've died

[@tfigmoney520]

MAKE IT MAKE SENSE. Im usually a 'look on the brightside' kind of person and was so excited for this wipe. Continuous dungeon and spawns need some serious tweaks and this info just adds to the ridiculousness. Something i havent seen mentioned is the sheer mountain this game has become for new players with this update. My first sub 24 game today was absolute chaos with all the spawning nearby. new (and more casual) players are going to have a really tough time with this patch in my opinion.

[@desensitized]

The bright side is people are going to get used to pvp and the mechanics very fast lol. As someone who almost purely hunts for pvp, it just feels almost meaningless spawning in and hearing someone clearing right next to me. Def need some, or a lot, of tweaks

[@emilianomilano2460]

How do you get the spell to cast? Most of the times i try to cast it, the spell simply doesnt go out, 80% of the times doesnt go out. When im in highground it always works, but when i try to target an area above or at the same height as the ground im standing in it seems to bug out and dont work.

[@ryan6daysaweek]

that's a current bug with some of the Sorcerer spell combinations, the devs are working to fix that but I think it might be server related

[@emprerking1684]

For me not aiming directly at the enemy or a door helped

[@Fleischdaemon]

Considering the insane imbalance of the spell I call that a feature xd

[@xenird]

Someone said "keep pressing r)

[@Khaons]

for area of effect spells, you have to look at an surface within range, if you try to look beyond that, it fails

[@smszx]

Here come sweeping nerfs to the entire class because of 2 broken interactions making the class unplayable, classic ironmace

[@gonzalocornejo9267]

Only 2? Bro havent played the class yet xd

[@marcobogazzi8446]

@@gonzalocornejo9267 the class was literally playable just because of these 2 perks spells combination, class is totally dogshit

[@sashagryg1958]

Bro i downloaded the game yesterday to play with my friends that never played it before too, and our first raid we ran into THAT.

[@SqueakyFrank]

100% the class feels terrible without those perks but then feels hilariously OP with them. Def needs a little better base casting stats (slightly higher dmg on a few single spells and maybe some better cast speed) and then perks that *accent* the class, not *make* the class. Another huge issue that is just as bad is the drawback from the giga-damage/castspeed perk is supposed to be that the caster cannot move, but any decent bunny-hopper completely negates that. Sorcerer players are switching their mousegrip and/or adding extra primary/secondary attack keybinds specifically so they can do scrollwheel jumps while combo-casting. The class relies on ranged insta-kills and a developer-disapproved movement mechanic.

[@Incendent]

I remember watching a fight in normals between 2 sorcs, 1 of them saw me watching and cast lightning storm on me. I died so fast that I had no clue what happened at the time. Wanted to see the sorc class in action and was instantly deleted from the dungeon, insane

[@Shlaf]

There is also another bugg with how the insta cast perk and the 25% cooldown perk interact as well. makes a 15 sec cooldown into a 14 sec cooldown. Also im pretty sure lightning storm is just bugged as it says the damage is supposed to tick every second but it triggers like 3-4 times per sec

[@janglejingerschmidt4031]

You have to understand. When they said 25% cool down, they meant .25 of a second. That's why it goes from 15 to 14. Game just doesn't recognize the decimals and rounds down.

[@hitbu9471]

Ryan found Sorcs only two good spells

[@cptvianite]

Sorceror feels fun otherwise, and definitely playable without these massively damaging spells. Personally I'm quite enjoying the class with mud shield being my favorite spell. If I were the devs I would disable those 2 spells for the moment though so they can tweak them to be better. They are just way too unfair. The apex perk is also pretty crazy and unneccesary, people know how to bhop and such and the devs *know* this. I also see people complaining about the continuous dungeon but I feel like that can be solved with some tweaking quite easily. Make the continuous dungeon only allow people in the first 2 minutes and limit the number of portals again (because statics are currently unlimited). With that I feel like there might still be some bad cases but most of the issues would be gone. Too many players per lobby, monsters killing people on spawn, spawning in the crossfire of other players, I feel like that will all be solved for the most part if the number of players joining is way more limited. And the fact people can sorta just leave whenever they want does feel very annoying but that can be solved by making the statics limited again. I'm also quite dissapointed the expressman is gone. I feel like you could incorporate him by just having a really quick mid section between matchmaking like there used to be. Overall I expected socketing to be the most overpowered thing this update but I guess I was very wrong!

[@Mustacheoro]

Notif gang! I got headshot by flamefrost spear through golem across the ruins bridge.

[@ryan6daysaweek]

from back court lmao

[@characterK]

This is the lowest concurrent players I've seen at wipe. It used to hold steady at 30k easy at wipes.

[@giustiziapersonale831]

Continous matchmaking did this, we are not playing for the pvp enjoyers anymore man

[@-mod1304]

You really cannot get excited about any update regarding this game. Incompetence wins again.

[@andersonborges5377]

I know it's a work in progress but... damn Iron Mace, how much thought did you guys actually put into the damage numbers?

[@tomatootamot]

You say "guys" like there's more than just sdf

[@richardpagel6959]

@@tomatootamot Well there are more people working on that game than just SDF.

[@tomatootamot]

@@richardpagel6959 The dev team is comprised of 60-100 people, but SDF is the one that is responsible for the game balance and new features. No one else is.

[@MaestroColucci]

Sysiphus story all over again: create and destroy

[@1brianyaffa]

This is unacceptable at this point.

[@zaspanywspanialy8100]

Rage Bait Wipe, dont lie

[@minimanto100]

Ah so this is why im finding so many rouges right now.

[@iPanicyt]

Actually stopped my update and I'm logging back on poe. There is no way I'm doing the 11th wipe in a row being cooked by ironmace like that. they couldnt balance a book on a table

[@giustiziapersonale831]

What is poe

[@Piercemxpx]

Anyone else having a problem with lightning storm where it fails to cast sometimes? It royally fucks me when it happens because it takes almost a full minute to refresh

[@GrooveSpaceArk]

TIME TO EXPLOIT BEFORE IT'S PATCHED! LETS GO!!!!

[@WorldofSoupS]

I'm coming back to the game after almost a year so it has to better than before right?

[@cailenricketson]

I uninstalled this game in the middle of last wipe. Everything about this season is exactly why I cant stand playing this game anymore. I started in playtest #2 and the game was the best thing since sliced bread. I cannot stand how Dark and Darker is a ranged pvp game now. I want to swing a sword, block a few attacks and have a good fist fight or two. The Ironmace team has lost touch with anything the game used to be.

[@davidrousseau100]

Ryan you should make a video about the issues with continuous dungeon, even if they fix the spawns. There's another MASSIVE oversight. You can spawn, escape right away and spectate to see where everyon is and then join the same game 30 seconds later. It's basicly IM approved ESP.

[@WinterBrew]

Sick build video!

[@felixmoreno1776]

Like im sorry, you cant convince me Ironmace isn't entirely deploying changes to Production with more than 5 seconds of testing. Like this just needs 1 person testing dmg against a Dummy, testing every single spell with squire gear to notice the damage (in fact, if you just read, you dont need to be smart to realize 100% MPower increase and 100% Cast SPeed may be out of touch, but idk)

[@MikeyBoiYah]

I started in October so not my first wipe, but I think I'll wait for the next. If I remember

[@STRIKERxLORD]

dont wait

[@peanut_1375]

Just farm gold using free squire kits. Buy troll pelt or gold ore since they double in price after 2 weeks or less

[@cendren8266]

I use lightning storm as well, and 60% of the time it cancels when i release it normally to cast. It extremely frustrating

[@God-it7je]

I see your point there, i think rogues should be nefred again!

[@jakebanks2231]

Honestly its nice to see a magic class with the same ranged potential as a long bow, itll be nerfed im sure but id honestly rather see everything else get buffed, very fun class to play

[@cheese9736]

just to add the elemental bolt (fire arrows and water bolt combo) does 170 (without buffs) to the head

[@marellius2868]

50 base + 50% headshot multiplier = 75 (+3*3 burn damage), or what am i missing?

[@marellius2868]

ah true, the 100% bonus magical damage, yh apex perk.

[@darkfriday-cu7gm]

Every new class that came out was op at least for a few weeks. The problem here is that most people play at wipe and whoever is not playing sorcerer might get too frustrated to continue playing.

[@Hardemantv]

I’ve only been playing *sparsely* since about 2 wipes ago. I sucked but at least could learn and get the hang of it. Eventually got better than horrid and was able to bag some kills. On wipe day, I played sorcerer for literally one run. It felt busted in my (79 hours) hands. I enjoy this game but this is absolutely absurd and the amount of people running it, feels like it’s constantly increasing.

[@inopnatum]

Fucking Ironmace m8. I was huge fan of Iron Mace and the game. But after 1.5k hours burnout and bad patches game disgust me rn. I hope i find the game worth my time again. I had great memories but this game is not that game anymore.

[@0thewatcher0]

don't even play the game but I assume they will be adding gems that counter elec. magic damage/reduce slows or nullify either all together, like a "null whatever gear" set. But since I don't play this game I'm probably way off the mark. I imagine a lot of people are upset by the changes the same as all the other changes before (accepting the ones that benefited their classes). I guess the developer sits there working on fixes to issues people are making videos on, literally watching the videos...while fixing the issues. Most of us can't even imagine what it takes to change things in a game, let alone keep everything else from breaking during the process. I guess that's what it is for all small groups making games that cater to a large audience though, a process. Excellent video though thanks for the information.

[@mmorin92]

for those worrying, they have now patched the perk down to 25% for both stats instead of 100%, idk how strong it is still at this moment though

[@TurboTactical]

Yo ryan, fighter main here. spell reflection hard counters the storm, atleast it did for me in normals on multiple occasions. Spell reflection stays active as it doesnt hit the shield, and you take heavily reduced damage. The only viable build in the game against it that I've found so far. Honestly it may be time for shield fighters to learn to aim spell reflects now.

[@TurboTactical]

Side note, I have not tested this with a friend yet to see if the damage is reflected or not, but surviving 500 raw instant damage makes you feel like a god

[@chost-059]

i survived din of darkness week

[@BeanutButler]

yes some of the spells are broken and need to be fixed, however i think that glass cannon sorcerer could be very fun and fit well. give him like 50%health penalty when using apex. with cooldowns on spells being so high dodging and baiting 4 spells isnt that hard

[@HNDVN]

Worst devs ive ever seen

[@The_McFly]

Had a 5k kit on in highroller just for a naked sorcerer who had 3 epic bows in his inventory to kill me in 2 seconds

[@ignaciohiguero1616]

Im not playing, but is anyone surprised that they fcked up again? And again? And again? And gain? And again? And again? And so on?. 😂

[@yagrmakak]

elemental bolt is also 50base dmg it flies a bit faster at the start other than the spear and it is on half the cooldown

[@Franwow]

Its so god damn obvious that the devs don't test anything before updating the game and forcing people to play with this trash.

[@jonastiragosto]

Also, a perk like time distortion is terrible game design imo, it just rewards running away gameplay more, when the class is already based around cooldowns. What im saying is: even if the numbers were balanced, sorcerer gameplay will always be throwing everything you have and running away until you have it again and losing no resources in the meantime. I dont think cooldowns have a place in this game, warlock also basically doesn't use resources, it is annoying but at least their spells dont instakill you.

[@Prime_Logos]

Meh i disagree. Barb and barber and longbow ranger have been cancer for so long with very little adjustments made, and barbs keep getting buffs. Let a magic class be busted aswell. If iron mace nerfs it to hard it may actually kill the class, iv been melee and ranger for so long cuz the are busted in hr pvp. i see no issue with having 3 big chunky damage dealers in the spectrum of ranger/rangedphysical, barb/melee, and sorc/magic. This game should have a spectrum of classes and damage profiles, sorc is magic. Its rock paper scissors. Not fair balanced and equal.

[@gonzalocornejo9267]

I'm on the same boat with rangers and barbs, but i think IM is gonna forget about those issues in pro of nerfing or just disable the class. Barbs still needs so many nerfs e.e

[@gorillaX1944]

I’m confused… are you accidentally referring to “lightning storm” as “lightning vortex”?

[@jonpeacock3016]

Imagine thinking this wasn’t gonna happen after playing Dark and Darker for more than a wipe.

[@EgotBrawlter]

should have more spells like wizard, but it should have a cool down of 20s or something, making the class a very breathable and a skill expressive class. or giving it a certain amount of spells to regain from campfire.

[@coltinwilcox5804]

I thought something was broken and FinnTheBard just posted a video on it too, hope the class is still viable after the nerfs

[@dcoiyt]

Yeah man, I'm out here trying to abuse my balladeer emote by quick attacking out of it and just getting one tapped by sorcs lmao

[@40thievesgaming]

Untested ideas gonna break the game every time. Got killed by a rogue while i was spawning in solo low gear. 1 of 5 times i spawned in the same room as another person while playing last night. Wild untested shit

[@JARM3Z]

Ryan you need to save us from barbarian. That class is not okay, it has high hp, high move speed, rediculous damage. It's unbeatable

[@JARM3Z]

The same can be said about fighter too

[@yann5166]

This spell particularly causes problem because its scales like magic missiles on casting speed (the speed of each tick) and magic dmg...

[@thesplashdetailing]

i like that i see this after i run duos and get 1 shot by lightning vortex by 2 sorcs. always sum extremely broken

[@PrtclWav]

just hopped on for 4 games got off thinking this same thing

[@videoedits3584]

Ironmace devs treating new classes like new league champs "OVERTUNE THEM THEN MAYBE JUST MAYBE NERF EM BUT NOT REALLY"

[@richardpagel6959]

I was running at a sorcerer yesterday with my ranger, was shooting at him decently and I think he was quite down on HP. He was running thru a door, I was running after him but the moment I arrived at the door he came out and one-shot me with whatever spell I cannot even tell because I was just dead instantly. Full HP to dead in less than a second and I did not even saw receiving damage, it really was just full HP to instant death... how in the world is this possible, nor even to mention, is that meant to be balanced. Just to mention, he was at 4 HP when I checked the death cam. 😆 But hey, its a new class, they will hopefully balance it soon enough thou.

[@mellowdarkness3344]

Instant cast with double damage and double scaling, is ridiculous

[@nickdelay5967]

feel like both of them combined is way too much lmfao

[@tristinbulko6786]

I mean, It's a sorcerer.. not only that but everyone knows good and well that every new class is usually over tuned, probably In order to find out whats broken in the first place since they aren't cooking a recipe they can take out as needed, of course it's not going to be perfectly balanced, don't forget ranger shotgun can still one-shot you

[@chigbungus2764]

Test server: "am i a joke to you?"

[@PhantomBuild]

I mainly play solo and to be honnest it's not that big of a problem there even tho i agree these numbers are insane.. However in solo's you will also run into landmine rogues that kill you in les then 4 sec, barbs that one tap headshot you rangers that two tap you across the map etc.. So i hope they don't gut the burst potential completely. In a team environment it is completly broken tho. Hopefully they can balance it out a bit for the entire game and not just trios..

[@Eli_00001]

The crypt random dungeon change is absolute garbage and mid game joining has made matchees conpletely unenjoyable

[@nathanscarlett4772]

Mid game joining sounds like the dumbest thing imaginable lol

[@richardpagel6959]

I have to say I like both changes so far.

[@jackpotjaxon]

Cool thing against sorcerer though as a fighter is spell reflect. Manage to reflect one of his duel spells back at him and give him a taste of his own medicine 😅

[@user-fu3wy3we1j]

Isn't it lightning storm 0:41 lightning vortex pushes people away

[@KedaiCiplak]

I'm just gonna use this class to farm all the quest items and future quest. Then I can enjoy playing my other class after completing a big chunk of it.

[@yungbobross6418]

Ironmace releasing an overloaded class that has a single ability that’s obviously overtuned while the rest of the kit is useless? Color me surprised! It’s almost like they don’t play the game!

[@dabthiirty3147]

Nah leave it how it is. As a fighter main that was getting 2 tapped by fireballs at 190hp... I'm loving sorcerer. Now i can unfairly shit on every other class including wizards! They clearly don't want melee classes to exist with all the ranged damage they keep adding. So fuck it. Leave it broken.

[@bolenarrow9286]

Yea as soon as I got enough perk slots this was the first thing I tried and I too was melting entire teams. The nerf is on its way. Sadly the rest of sorc kit kinda fuckin sucks so once again Ironmace makes something op af and in one patch sorc will be dog shit and then starts the yo-yo patching

[@breakmachine7102]

the kit has 3 almost 1 shots

[@yeayea115]

the instacast lightning orb shield + blink lets you swap items during the blink. letting you pull out a sword and swing immediately upon landing. its actually pretty sick.

[@Swamp_Donkey123]

Thank you for making a video where you are not dooming the game, and give explanations and reason, i personally feel too many people in the community doom the devs/game often

[@gonzalocornejo9267]

I meaaan, can You blame the people gor getting mad at this? They have test servers, paying for a game as poorly balanced as this is bad enough

[@Swamp_Donkey123]

@ it’s fine to be upset or want something fixed, but this game is in early access still and they are a pretty small studio.

[@IstolefirefromaGod]

Was enjoying the game last night until the third one tap death to lightning vortex from full health each time. As a cleric there is literally no counter play to this spell

[@Nuzico]

im convinced they didnt test it, theres no way after over 2 years of development they still do these beginner mistakes. worst start of a wipe ever so far (at least for me). the continues dungeon has a ton of flaws rn too, people can revenge queue to get back into ur lobby when they die early againt you. u spawn right next to people or sometimes even 2 (yes in solos). the hp change made bards extremely strong in u25 gs (125-130 hp with 30% pdr AND all the music buffs is insane in solo u25) i had more points but i was getting high while typing so i forgot some T-T

[@rakuwaru3619]

so much for anyone that wanted to come back lol different update same shit

[@proxy8878]

Good old locust swarm days. Now I'm interested in seeing a trio sorc triple casting the storm.

[@sirspookington]

cool, just another thing to add on to the already oppressive ranged meta in the game.

[@user-yh7yd6ts5c]

Lightning storm is so broken but fails to cast 60% of the time lol