Sorry But - This NEW Forgiving PXG Club Will UPSET A LOT Of Golfers!

[@semperfi3569]

Another solid review James. If it’s too expensive don’t buy it. Simple as that

[@johndomutz1052]

Thanks for your video. Interestingly enough, I acquired one today. There is a fitting store in my area, where the nearest 4:05 LAB fitter is about 250 miles away. My custom fitting went well and I like the grip James showed in the video. I also got the optional premium shaft for $90 more, but it feels better. Update (11-Oct.-24) - Played my first round with the Allen putter today. After a poor start and resulting grip improvement, the putting improved then became predictable. I agree with your comment that this putter just lets you putt. Next time I will try moving the ball forward a bitt and see if the contact improves.

[@darrendines4580]

As a LAB putter owner, one thing that jumped out for me with the PXG putter is the continuous sight line. LAB putters shaft break the sight line.

[@xivjae]

Everyone seems to see PXG and automatically say "Oh they're so expensive!". And this brand new putter isn't exactly in the budget club lineup. But I just bought a putter from them, the Blackbird, that listed at $400(USD) in 2022. It was $189. The technology doesn't degrade over time. In two years, this club will have the same tech and be just as good. Just wait and buy it on sale.

[@brucebrannon3003]

The

[@ben1ben2ben1]

Thats not what people think when they see PXG. They think "this guy is probably a douche"

[@kenhewitt7357]

​@@ben1ben2ben1And people probably think "the guy is a douche" when they leave comments like this!

[@grindano]

I haven’t bought a new club aside from my irons.. there’s soo many guys who buy 3 putters and 3 drivers a year and just trade them in, I saw a Qi10 with ventus red shaft last month for $450 “I didn’t buy it” and is still expensive but brand new that’s $950 plus tax! Point is your right, wait for the right club to show up used and within your budget!

[@LeslieGreenwood-bu9tn]

@@kenhewitt7357 absolutely.

[@MichaelSisley-fw3xr]

James, you are on point here. If people have a good, quality, balanced putter you can take strokes off the final score easily. I definitely want to try one of these putters. I love mallet designs.

[@pschilleru]

My first round with the Allan putter yesterday and had 9 one putts varying 4 to 20 feet! Love it - PXG has a winner. The pick up pocket is useless when they are going in the hole! 😉

[@gordonsteen5560]

Tried this putter last week and holed 6 consecutive putts from 12 feet. Loved how it felt and how the ball just rolled off the face. IMO it has definitely upped the game in the putter market

[@ItaliaJP400]

🔥 video James. Pxg putters are crazy underrated!!!

[@Peeblejd]

James, you need to do a review on the new L.A.B. Golf DF3. I think you'll find that they do this technology much better. What PXG is doing is a nice step forward in acknowledging that there are other interesting ways to help players putt better but this will ultimately fall short of what L.A.B. Golf has been able to do.

[@gregbarthjr9621]

Agreed

[@TheRinger28]

You’re making assumptions based on what the lab rat cult is telling you. I’ve got a lab and it’s a great putter but it’s hideous to look at. I’m looking forward to trying one of these the looks and quality appear to be far better than the 500 dollar block of aluminum that lab is producing. I get it the tech is there but they look and feel cheap. Hopefully pxg will force lab to up their game an offer a product with removable weights as well.

[@craigdiehm3017]

The technology that L.A.B uses is hardly new, or developed by them. L.A.B's real innovation is in their grip design.

[@tjstrongbone5373]

I swung a few LAB putters, along with a dozen or so other offering, and liked them very much. It and the TM Spyder tour are my two picks. Have the TM already. However the LAB did not impart a sense of quality. The grip quality was less than I was expecting and shaft emerging with a angle to produce forward press was not as elegant a design as the PXG Allan. Granted, PXG didn't have to design the first iteration as LAB did.

[@gregbarthjr9621]

Actually LAB is far different than you think. Their grip is a necessity to Perfect their tech. LAB isn't a toe up putter or an Axis 1. LAB is it's own animal completely. And the more I look at it and it's tech. I'm starting to believe. This new PXG putter is more like the Axis 1 or an improvement over that brand.

[@ianh8396]

I got fitted at the beginning of the year for a PXG putter, tried many but the one I got was bye far the best. Yes it was a little pricey but hey, we are here to enjoy our hobby right? And we love new shiny things. 😊

[@davidhudson4653]

Nice to meet you yesterday morning, James up at Woolley Park, a bit wild, windy and wet at times, but I always enjoy playing there while I’m over in the UK from Spain. Keep up the good work!

[@JamesRobinsonGolf]

Thanks David. You too buddy

[@waywardwest]

Huge fan of the color combo. I feel that being a colorblind golfer I've found that my best putting has been with my Never Compromise Zi Kappa which has the same color contrast. It just sets up better than anything else I've tried.

[@montegustafson5142]

Another putter with a somewhat similar look and feel is the Evnroll Outback. It also allows for a pendulum-like stroke, I just started using one. Prices vary depending on condition, but typically as low as about $100 USD used and some over $500 new.

[@rabbyg147]

I,ve got a pxg full bag fitting on Tuesday, can,t wait ,

[@randallpennington5976]

I can’t wait to try both this and the LAB!

[@richardabell8442]

Drivers are at about £600 and you’ll use it maybe 7 or 8 times a round depending on course. Putter is the most used club in the bag, worth getting fit for and spending the money on. Stop moaning about 450 for a putter, you use it the most, it’s worth the money

[@jeffkuo2390]

Only reviewer on youtube that has something for everyone. Keep it up big G

[@JamesRobinsonGolf]

Appreciate that Jeff

[@IIISWILIII]

I have PXG irons. They are worth their price 💯

[@ben1ben2ben1]

At the cost of your dignity

[@edwardleith8209]

It's the love child of the Spyder Tour and L.A.B... looks nice but for now I'll stick with my DF3

[@wadepreston3401]

Great review James. I liked the idea of zero torque putter, just didn’t love the look of them until now.

[@gregbarthjr9621]

LAB putters, fully custom fitted can cost over $1000. There is a point when a club and what tech is inside of it. Can be pricing out some of the market. I have a custom fitted Mizuno putter. 3 years ago it cost me $350. I felt like at the time. I was spending too much for one club, that wasn't a driver. As I used it and practiced with it. Everything about that putter just worked better. Going back to My old putters, I truly saw a difference in the properly fitted higher quality putter and I was sinking more putts. Now these zero tork designs are very interesting. I know first hand. Not all putters are created equally. For example. The Axis 1 putters Don't work custom fitted. They only work Stock. Don't cut the shaft down, don't mess with the lie angle. Because you'll screw up the Axis 1's balance. I will go and try this one out. I'm always looking to improve my putting. Like most people. I love to see you get a LAB custom fitted to you and try them both. Keep up the great work James. Cheers!

[@ivor32luna]

Yo can get a LAB putter custom for less than a grand.

[@wiscobuckeye]

Just my 2 cents added to the conversation...I have a LAB Direct Force 2.1 and it absolutely changed my putting and my scores. Zero doubt in my mind. I 100% think this is PXG trying to squeeze in on their technology without giving them credit, which is...what it is. But I will agree with you about the cost of a LAB putter. Mine was over $800 with the upgraded shaft and alignment design, colors, etc. Totally worth it to me, but it definitely prices some people out.

[@jackpearson7262]

That's a lovely looking putter and headcover

[@ivor32luna]

This putter still has torque. Good progress but not close

[@thomascairns4216]

So when are you going to compare the Allen to the Lab putter and find out who’s putter preforms better ?

[@damianbaugh5530]

I'll get one when they arrive in Australia, we are always months behind. I enjoyed the review, thanks James.

[@jacsmithwilliams1083]

Great video Jimmy, alway been intrigued with zero torque putters and been keeping an eye out for them on market place. Thing I found is get fit for the grip first then then putter

[@peterlightowler3807]

Bobbys camera work is all over the place! Did he have too many coffees? 😂

[@JG-808]

Awesome review. It may take a bit to save up lol, but I’m definitely going to get me that putter.

[@tommiethatcher7265]

Loving the latest PXG equipment

[@davidsalmon5466]

Great review, but surely hitting putts on the right line with the right pace applies to every putter?

[@royclose946]

Well done James 👏 😊

[@craigmoyer6916]

LAB is king of the zero torque putters. That stated, I’m sure the Allan but it’s more similar to the odyssey toe-up and axis putters.

[@BiffTannen-d2h]

It’s basically an Odyssey Big 7 toe up

[@JaseNick79]

I love pxg but that looks strikingly similar to my TaylorMade spider.

[@IIISWILIII]

If LAB made a Spider.... Pxg said hold our beer

[@TZOID08]

Bold move picking a difficult breaking putt to do a Putter review.... Shows it's the Indian and not the Arrow : )

[@stevenhochman1]

$520 delivered. Tax and shipping including. I loved it. Too expensive but what the heck!

[@kevinbergeron7333]

Loved the video James great job as always. Hope I will not get to much hate but the shape of that putter reminds me of my Ping Fetch. Anyway I noticed some similarities between the two! I might have to consider a putter fitting with PXG now and the Allen putter might work very well with a wrist lock grip

[@tezzlacoilz]

Good to see a fresh angle on zero torque putters. Not sure its as good as a lab but will be keen to try. What I really don't get is people complaining about the pricing. These same people accept paying a certain amount for a new shiny driver that is almost identical in performance to one from 3-5 years ago, but get their back up about expensive putters that have actual proven tech in them. You use it the most out of any club in the bag, it's the most important club, and yes there is actually new technology so you are going to pay for that. It's not just about a pretty Scotty Cameron which rehashes old designs and puts in new paint fill and then gouges you. Does my head in honestly, makes zero sense lol

[@leshutchinson5574]

No they aren’t cheap but have you priced a new driver lately? Oh and you use the putter on all 18 holes ! I want one !

[@Stehtky]

Hi James, just received the mileseey pf1 you recommend. Does yours show, the slope and angle icons (symbols) in the view finder? Mine does not. Just curious, and you're the only other person that owns one

[@richarddavis5838]

So will it pick a ball out of the cup?

[@lexxwhite747]

That might well help me, I rarely think.

[@pellezackrisson5320]

Good warning.

[@loutennant99]

How does that compare to the Hercules?

[@larryd4352]

I will just stick with my 1970's era Acushnet Bullseye Blade Heavy putrer. I have had it since I was 16 years old. I will just stick with it!

[@chrisb2890]

It’s a beauty

[@Gk2003m]

Doesn’t upset me a bit. Nearly $500 for a putter? It occurs to me that thousands of under-par rounds have been documented using putters that are not this advanced. So I’ll continue muddling along with my regular $40 (back when I got it) putter - with which I have played more than one round under par. (Along with plenty of sub-par rounds lol - point being, it’s not the fault of the equipment.)

[@michaelmalek3297]

did you always use a 36 inch putter? If not, why did PXG think you needed this length?

[@rockrugbyref]

I figured it would be Scotty Cameron or Odyssey that would come up with a LAB competitor. Never thought it'd be PXG.

[@Ryan_Orion]

Scotty is the least innovative designer… that’s glaringly obvious with the “new” B3 lineup.

[@BB-pg5kl]

I mean I know Scotty basically just copies Ping putters and bedazzles them, but LAB putters might be a little to intricate for him.

[@aarondrossart6026]

scotty has been making the same putter for about 20 years. they've added mallets but they're the exact same as every other mallet. odyssey just puts "ai" on stuff and keeps the putter the same. PXG is a divisive brand, but they are atleast trying new stuff. You can tell because for a while, they were launching 2 new sets of "flagship" irons every year. They're really dialing in and are creating some cool designs that are IMO significantly more innovative than the competitors. Disclaimer: I play some pxg clubs, but am obviously not sponsored(i wish).

[@vinihvilamoraes]

So, the guy with no videos reviewing LAB putters claims this is the end of them? This video feels more like propaganda and advertising than an honest review

[@JamesRobinsonGolf]

Just because I haven’t videoed one doesn’t mean I can’t have an opinion on one? Strange to get upset over a putter

[@JamesRobinsonGolf]

Also… the lab remark was a question… 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@fitzgerald1337x]

you have absolutely no idea how disrespectful this is to LAB and those who are LAB enthusiasts to ask if this is the end of LAB, especially with no content on LAB whatsoever. you are oblivious. officially done consuming your content.

[@vinihvilamoraes]

​@@JamesRobinsonGolf Once again, you're doing an ad (which is fine, just be transparent with your audience) rather than providing an honest review

[@mychaljw]

@@JamesRobinsonGolf This comment is a bit disingenuous, because someone else commented early on that the LAB will always be the OG, and your response was to ask them essentially "You've tried the Allan then"? Why did they have to try it to have an opinion, and you don't?

[@thattrillYT]

LAB boys punching air rn and crying 🥊 😢

[@ClintWilber]

The only thing that upsets me is the $479 price tag.

[@anomanderrake69]

I think it would be helpful if, while you review the clubs that are more expensive. You take a couple minutes to showcase affordable alternatives or something like that. Not that there will be perfect 1:1 cheaper options. But there’s gotta be similar things

[@mrb9849]

Cant beat DF3

[@derekgonzalez8066]

If you bring that putter back with any sort of speed, it will open. The only lie angle balance putters are made by L.A.B. Golf.

[@JamesRobinsonGolf]

Did you miss the bit in the lab? Lol

[@hunterbrooks4627]

Pxg will say it the greatest and six months later it on discount and another model is introduced as latest and greatest

[@hoppman6649]

As does every golf company.

[@davidfisher7541]

How can one year make you hit the golf ball easier?

[@BB-pg5kl]

Nice, but poor design to plaster PXG right on the face like that using a different material. Something small using paint fill would've been better. Or even better would be to leave the face alone.

[@hyprbigtime5841]

Is this a putter youd keep in your bag?

[@louismoore6473]

WOW! The level of anger and hate coming from the LAB guys is insane!!! Simmer down. You are starting to sound like you got suckered into spending $800 for the ugliest putters ever, and are still 3 putting most greens.

[@JamesRobinsonGolf]

I thought this lol

[@paulbown3960]

would like to see up against the LAB DF3, make it happen James!

[@aarondrossart6026]

if you pause at the beginning, they call show on the graph that off the toe/heel, the pxg is more consistent with distance than the "lab"(doesn't call out which one) when hitting off the heel/toe. Particularly off of the heel.

[@stevenspencer81]

Are you going to game the putter ?

[@mikeperks1175]

Looks amazing - how about a giveaway? Would love to win this

[@bradfortner8921]

That putting display shows exactly the truth about zero torque. The spinny thing means nothing unless you have ball bearings in your wrists, and it didn’t help you make putts, as it won’t help anyone else. Find what works, and use it. If this it’s it, cool…

[@wigib2]

My condolences on the passing of your father, I had not heard that.

[@timothycarry]

I like these reviews but are you putting it into your bag?

[@JamesRobinsonGolf]

No mate if I put every club I reviewed in my bag I would never have a settled bag and have 14,000 clubs in it lol

[@dannantais7336]

This putter still has torque. LAB has ZERO torque. That takes a variable out of the equation because you KNOW that the LAB will square the face. I have tried (and still own) 20 putters over the years and the LAB is the best. Go watch the KZbin video of the LAB guy evaluating the Allan--you’ll see. The LAB instills confidence and it’s the best for ME by far.

[@donwalton6325]

Expensive? It's a hundred pounds cheaper than a new driver yet you'll use the putter maybe three times as much as the driver during a round. I can see the Allan saving three or four strokes in that round, will the driver?

[@schlatz2786]

That putter costs US$450. I wouldn’t buy it unless I hit the lotto. I would consider it in a few years if the price drops quite a bit.

[@garyfardon8841]

By then, another better option will be available, which you won't be able to afford either. You only live once, and there are no pockets in shrouds.

[@schlatz2786]

@ I have plenty of money to buy it now. I just wouldn’t pay that much for a putter. I have several putters that I paid a lot less for and putt fine with them.

[@richardjackson9725]

It’s very clever but a normal putter doesn’t rotate in reality like it does in PXGs “marketing” tube….for the simple reason it’s in your grip. I don’t think anyone should have a problem holding the weight of a standard putter square. Great marketing from them though….Boom! 😂

[@deanmccormick8070]

No such thing as too easy, unless you can install raised tracks on the green!

[@derekjohnson7013]

These are going to struggle to sell, everyone is going to see them as LAB knockoffs at the same selling point. And I play Pxg clubs

[@rockrugbyref]

Scotty's are Ping knockoffs but they seem to be selling well.

[@andyfrizzell4352]

Look much better to my eye than a LAB

[@TheRinger28]

These are far better looking than the lab I’m currently playing. I just ordered one to try.

[@tjstrongbone5373]

disagree, they will eclipse LAB putter sales quickly. A better combination of tech and looks, BUT not made in the USA I believe. At this price, why not PXG?!

[@craigdiehm3017]

At this price point they will have absolutely no problem selling them. L.A.B putters are awesome, but also hard to look at. These look alot better.

[@LaurenceDunn-v6r]

Bobby was more interested in getting you in frame rather than the what the putter was doing and were the ball was going especially from behind the hole. Love the putter but bobby has to learn that the club and where the ball is going is more important than keeping you in frame. After all its the clubs and the balls that you are reviewing.

[@jakesells2379]

Not really a competitor to LAB, as it has torque. It might be a good fit for lots of golfers, but it's not zero torque.

[@llgg5929]

Does not anti torque at all.

[@brianmcgowan5218]

They cost roughly £450 and that is same price as a lab putter, think its all a gimmick

[@jeffmulz6686]

L.A.B. Golf did it first. And probably better. Not ever selling any of my LAB putters for a copycat.

[@tellwilliams4493]

Way to pick a straight easy putt I’m sure the sponsor is very happy

[@SvingitGolf]

Doesn’t matter if you can’t putt.

[@briansgolfworks4991]

Put it in a LAB Revealer and I'll bet it isn't balanced.

[@davidtomsett]

You know Bobby, those LAB putters, those LAB putters from America, those LAB putters Bobby, you know, the ones you like; those LAB putters from America, the ones you like, you know, those LAB putters Bobby.

[@JamesRobinsonGolf]

Lol

[@R_Nottelling]

So 1-5 with the first 5 putts. Same as anything else

[@BEAN9999]

I will stick to my custom lab df2.1, I will never get away from a lab putter.

[@markbrouk7857]

What's it cost a grand?

[@davead6578]

All these drivers are fine, but let’s face the real fact- good putting is largely a function of your ability to read and judge the speed of the greens. No putter, regardless of price, is the solution.

[@TJH_Golfaholic]

I could probably believe it's a good putter if you could actually drop one. 😂😂

[@kyleericson9777]

Oh goodie! Another $450 (at least here in the states) putter … personally I’ll wait until they start showing up on eBay for $200 when the next new, shiny putter is rolled out in a year or two.👍🏻

[@chadblackwood579]

All putters are almost 450 now , you bums need to stop crying about it being expensive

[@golfmajor847]

100% disagree. It's well past time to stop the insanity on golf club pricing. It really has passed the point of being ludicrous. Is there any point at which you would agree us "bums" have a valid point if "all putters are almost 450 now"?? Is it maybe $600, $750....$1000?

[@craigdiehm3017]

There are plenty of manufacturers who make cheaper clubs. Even PXG has a line of putters that are very reasonably priced.

[@simonpe3trie102]

Obviously, would like one but over £400 Just too much Think anything over £150 per club Is extortionate Regardless of whether that’s a driver or putter a a hybrid or wedge or an iron .

[@jcgolf159]

C$ 609.99 pre-tax 🥴 That's quite the price for a gimmicky ball retriever 😅

[@JamesRobinsonGolf]

Canadian money always looks a lot lol

[@joannaespley6035]

Not convinced by your display 😂. Still way too expensive

[@kennethlawrence8680]

You never mentioned the outrageous price.

[@mychaljw]

It's cheaper than LAB who is selling the same zero torque principle. (Still expensive)

[@derekjohnson7013]

@@mychaljwit’s literally the same price, without the shaft or forward lean from lab

[@mychaljw]

@@derekjohnson7013 oops. I was logged into their website and I get the discounted Military pricing so I saw it cheaper than retail.

[@denniswaske]

shows the price at 7:20

[@lamigue46]

£429 - you have to be joking !

[@aaronlbuchanan9861]

What about all the great excuses i have for missing???

[@maddux31jp17]

Named for his brother... so is this the alan parsons project? Ha ha

[@Lovetheducks]

Do you truly believe all this so called tech in new putters is worth it? These putters have become crazy expensive. After perimeter weighting the rest all seems like gimmicks to boost cost. I use all costco now but before that used a carbite putter from a 90’s infomercial. I used it thru college and well after. I’d put that putter up against anything today.

[@jefferyparr4153]

Lab is far superior. You missed a lot of putts and speed looked inconsistent.

[@JamesRobinsonGolf]

lol

[@hoppman6649]

Said Adam scott this last weekend, oh wait, he missed a ton of putts with the lab.

[@anttisavolainen547]

Its allways Straight!!! You still have to aim??

[@fitzgerald1337x]

it ain't a LAB.

[@kriangkraisiriamornthep6299]

450$ !