Testing the PXG Allen Putter In The Revealer Against L.A.B.

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@ajhawk2908 4 ай бұрын

I’ll probably never own a LAB but shoutout for being so transparent and responding to the noise!

@KodieJames13 4 ай бұрын

You should. They're amazing. Genuinely took 5-7 strokes off my game and I suck. Haha

@ajhawk2908 4 ай бұрын

@@KodieJames13 I do too lol but I just can’t afford that expense rn 🥲 one day maybe lol

@pt_atx 4 ай бұрын

Never thought I would buy one either but I did. Pretty crazy how much better I'm scoring.

@industrialpalletworx3548 4 ай бұрын

@@ajhawk2908 I'm hoping as time goes and the market gets more "flooded" the price comes down. Or knowing my specs, I'm hopeful that I may find one used in my spec. Either way I'm being frugal and trying to save a buck.

@kimchicouple3424 4 ай бұрын

Do the virtual fitting and look for used in good condition to your specs. They’re out there.

@RookieSwing 2 ай бұрын

👏 L.A.B. Golf clearly isn’t just out to compete-they’re here to educate and elevate. Watching Sam test the PXG Allen in The Revealer shows how L.A.B. prioritizes transparency and innovation in a way that benefits all golfers. A rising tide floats all ships, and this level of openness only strengthens the entire putting industry. Hats off to you, L.A.B., for setting a great example and advancing the game. I was on the fence, but now I’ve got one on order!

@brettsiegle9163 4 ай бұрын

Color me impressed, this video is a phenomenal explanation and presentation of L.A.B. superiority, without trying to bash or undermine PXG - hard to argue facts and data. Well-done.

@Kpizzo 4 ай бұрын

The only 3rd party data I’ve seen testing both putters using robotics showed the Allen performing slightly more consistently in terms of line and distance, but lab is cool too

@O-Heyguys 4 ай бұрын

The fact that a 3rd party said the PXG performed slightly better? Ya hard to argue against data. 😂 you also can’t forget the eye test. Only a blind person would pick a lab over a PXG. Good news though, a couple other companies are coming out with their own putters as well for you blowhards to argue over.

@samhahn6950 4 ай бұрын

@@Kpizzowhere’d you see that?

@imcttunome 4 ай бұрын

@@samhahn6950 Sam, have you ever put an old, center-shafted '60s Bullseye putter in your revealer? I ask that because I love spinning the DF3 in my open palm, the same way I used to do ages ago with the Bullseye. Thanks for your anticipated reply.

@roberts5808 3 ай бұрын

LAB stands for L-acks AB-ility

@stephendibari5010 4 ай бұрын

Awesome comparison. My custom fit DF3 is by far the best putter I’ve ever used in over 30 years of golfing. It’s all about the lie angle. When a LAB is custom fit for your lie angle you can FEEL and know there is no twisting needed to get the face square to the target line. I haven’t rolled a pxg Allen but based on this video it’s clear to me the Allen has torque. I’m happy with my DF3 and this one will be in my bag forever

@goutfromfriedokra 4 ай бұрын

@mikecaldwell6845 4 ай бұрын

Not a bad thing to have brands trying to replicate the LAB tech! Means you are doing something right! Keep up the awesome work Guys! I am absolutely in love with my DF3 🤙🏻

@socalgolf9978 4 ай бұрын

It’s not new tech

@simonfeigl7387 2 ай бұрын

What a boss of a company LAB Golf is. True innovators, not pretenders, and full transparency. Gotta love that. 😊

@TheXWilsonx 2 ай бұрын

Received my DF3 last week, 4 rounds so far and I can say it’s the best golf club I’ve ever purchased. The confidence is insane

@BIIIKES 2 ай бұрын

I am absolutely IN LOVE with my DF3. I typically averaged about 34 putts per round, and am now down to 30. Handicap currently at 4.1

@MrIanharper68 3 ай бұрын

Hi Sam, I can't wait to get my hands on my LAB DF3 Broom :) after watching this I went over and watched the PXG video also and all I can say is WOW ... Somebody certainly got upset and it wasn't you :) well done

@anzacmerc4hire781 Ай бұрын

I'm a 45 y,o thats played for 40 years. I've been as good as a +4 golfer and now get around off 2-4 with very little practice time available to me. With what little time I have, putting gets at least 50% and I value that time over anything else. Just went for my 5 yearly putter fit and low and behold........... A LAB LINK putter for me. 1st time i've ever seen one and 1st time putting with anything center shafted. It's good to keep an open mind when going to a fitting. LAB's arent for every putting stroke, but mine seemed to benefit immediately. I'll be sinking more putts next Jan/Feb - Thanks for all your hard work designing and bringing these great putters to the market. From Queensland, Australia

@jaytravtulsa1 3 ай бұрын

Your broomstick has saved my golfing life. THANK YOU !!!

@matthewdadson7598 2 ай бұрын

I have had my DF3 for about 1 month now, and I think it's the best putter out there by far. I play off 2 and I have so much confidence with this putter. I think it's harder to miss 2 feet putts now. Cheers LAB

@cryptogrumps7139 2 ай бұрын

Have been contemplating between LAB and PXG. This video sold me on LAB. Thanks 🙏

@BIIIKES 2 ай бұрын

You won't regret it. I am absolutely IN LOVE with my DF3. I typically averaged about 34 putts per round, and am now down to 30. Handicap currently at 4.1. I played an Odyssey Ai One Double Wide prior.

@kylecampbell3 Ай бұрын

Once you realize they are selling the fact the club is face balanced.... lol every manufacturer offers a center shafted or double bend shafted putter thats faced balanced.... that will litterally do the same thing. this is just a snake oil sales pitch.

@cryptogrumps7139 Ай бұрын

@ yet none have done it as well as LAB. There are hundreds of comparison videos and all fail the balance tests.

@jonnyboy414 4 ай бұрын

I was skeptical at first as well, I went to golf galaxy as they had the left handed counter balance DF3 and I couldn’t believe about 10 minutes in to trying the putter out my lag putts were so much closer it was a tap in for my second put! Also from like 6-8 ft I was making way more putts at that distance compared to my jailbird I normally play with. I’ll be trying out my new df3 on the course this weekend!

@golfwitkev 4 ай бұрын

Alright alright. Let’s talk about the putters in the back right corner 😮

@jgpratt2010 4 ай бұрын

Looks like a wide blade and then a model that looks like a GoLo ?

@gearrunner 4 ай бұрын

I came here to say the exact same thing!

@benjaminfuller8121 4 ай бұрын

Yes!!!!! Looks like a Mezz with no teeth but a solid flange😳

@ageclipse 4 ай бұрын

haha! I was saying the exact thing when I was watching this vid as well LOL!!

@segaboy128 4 ай бұрын

Love those prototypes?!

@johngyorfy4356 2 ай бұрын

Just bought a DF3 and love it. It is a game changer. By the way, now you need to evaluate the new Callaway 0 torque putters.

@patmac104 4 ай бұрын

I am glad to see this video! Someday I will have a LAB. I am sure your approach will always win out over mass produced monsters.

@andrewparkinson7397 3 ай бұрын

Bought a L.A.B Mezz putter a month ago after a fitting. In that time I’ve dropped my handicap from 12.1 to 8.6! It’s literally a game changer. I now know that if it’s a straight putt with no break then I’m making the putt. The confidence it gives you from inside 20ft is unbelievable. Thank you L.A.B 👍

@davepoulsen1007 4 ай бұрын

Good unbiased review that actually took a fair bit of courage to do (what if it had no torque). They do say that Imitation is the best form of flattery so well Sam Hahn and team 👏👏👏

@O-Heyguys 4 ай бұрын

So what do you say about Lab using the same idea as other companies did before?

@rdadams7507 4 ай бұрын

@@O-HeyguysThey did a poor job of building their brands.

@samhahn6950 4 ай бұрын

@@O-Heyguyswhat companies? I’ll happily explain any differences and acknowledge any predecessors.

@brandonlambert1586 3 ай бұрын

@@O-Heyguys yep LAB is doing it a little better but this zero torque idea has been around for a few decades, I think there was a company in the 90s that tried it then Odyssey in the early 2010s

@retlod 4 ай бұрын

Cool vid. Just got my DF3 a few days ago, and it's amazing!

@BigDawgCAM 4 ай бұрын

Just wanted to say I think you're awesome Sam! Can't wait to buy a putter from you in a couple months

@BIIIKES 2 ай бұрын

I am absolutely IN LOVE with my DF3. I typically averaged about 34 putts per round, and am now down to 30. Handicap currently at 4.1. Go get yours, dude.

@rorywoods6344 2 ай бұрын

Sam is honest and knows what he is talking about hence the reason why he allows full transparency. If you have nothing to hide then don't hide it. You can have the strap line for free Sam. All the best from the UK.

@samuelmindlin3004 4 ай бұрын

Thank you for this video! I have the DF3 and love it and was wondering about the PXG offering because it does look a little more traditional.

@primafacie6442 2 ай бұрын

Sam, don’t forget they say imitation is the greatest form of compliment. Noting Odyssey has also just dropped their (off the shelf) Square 2 Square line up to respond to the burgeoning Tour interest in LAB zero torque physics 😅. However, for big brands to release a zero torque product line, only serves to diminish all earlier marketing hype about the accuracy of their numerous traditional putter lines (face balance and toe hang). You either believe in the physics or not. Good job Sam and the Lab Rats❤

@nigelcooke8590 4 ай бұрын

I initially said I’d never use something as ugly however one fitting later, I’ve just taken delivery of a counterbalanced DF3 from Scottsdale in UK and although sceptical at first, in my first two rounds I didn’t three putt and holed out consistently from 5ft and in… hopefully my goal of hitting scratch by my 50th birthday is back on (for reference it’s my 49th today and my index is 1.8).. seriously think the LAB is here to stay.. 💥💥💥

@derekgonzalez8066 4 ай бұрын

I knew this was the case the second it came out. This is why i doubted Lab putters at first. I owned the Axis1 Joey putter and I pulled putts all the time. It’s because it closes hard at impact in the revealer. If you are going to make a Zero Torque putter, the shaft MUST be center shafted. You can’t have it all bendy or a weird shaped hosel, otherwise it will close hard at impact. Lab is the only company that makes Lie Angle Balance putters.

@user-cv7ey6fb4c 4 ай бұрын

Feels like every glowing review was written by someone who works at LAB lol. I never hear or see this type of stuff in person or at the stores.

@BIIIKES 2 ай бұрын

@@user-cv7ey6fb4c I am absolutely IN LOVE with my DF3. I typically averaged about 34 putts per round, and am now down to 30. Handicap currently at 4.1. You're hearing this from people that own the putter.

@terryschott1656 2 ай бұрын

@@user-cv7ey6fb4c how do you know that? If you don't believe the video or the technology LAB has don't buy one but would be the best investment you would make to improve your game

@Papa-Bogey 3 ай бұрын

Saving my pennies … I’ll have a LAB before the start of the new season. I tried my friends, it was mind blowing. I haven’t even seen an Allan, so I can’t compare. But, the LAB will be in my bag 🤞

@Golferhair1270 4 ай бұрын

You can tell he’s confident in his company and product. Not bashing the competition.

@southsidetradingco 2 ай бұрын

Love my lab. Biggest jump in golf tech since the metal wood. Going to see Scottys stacked like persimmon woods in the used buns.....

@kirkshammett94 4 ай бұрын

You can’t beat a lab putter baby. Best putter there is and this guy one the main reason why. He has a true passion for his putters

@Canadiancigarguy 4 ай бұрын

All I will say is you can’t replicate perfection… sooner or later LAB will take over… every putt is bang on and easier…. I have a link and a DF 2.1 …. Best putters I have ever had.

@paulrigby3578 4 ай бұрын

well, done Sam and the team this just show how good L.A.B putters are 👍👍yes i did notice the white putters in the corner of the room

@joshmacias4151 4 ай бұрын

Tasteful explanation ! Thanks Sam

@johnpark1657 Ай бұрын

I'm noticing now that there are a few OZ.1 prototypes in the back there... nice little easter egg! Can't wait until I'm able to try one out! :)

@salvadorfernandez8706 4 ай бұрын

Have you put the honu putter in the revealer? I had heard it was also lie angle balanced putter.

@sp32075 4 ай бұрын

I would like to 2nd that motion. Please do a similar video comparison using the Honu putter.

@richeedo 4 ай бұрын

@labgolf what putter is that against the wall???

@derekgonzalez8066 3 ай бұрын

I might be the only guy that likes the DF 2.1. I love the look!

@BIIIKES 2 ай бұрын

My wife too. Go for it. It's different. Bunch of haters replying to the comments in here. Let them hate... while you're making putts and taking their money. ;) I am absolutely IN LOVE with my DF3. I typically averaged about 34 putts per round, and am now down to 30. Handicap currently at 4.1

@matthewreeder6853 2 ай бұрын

Just picked up a DF3! 🎉🎉

@Daniel-qs6bz 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for your attempt on an objective comparison, as an engineer this intrigues me. I would that there is really nothing like a true 0 torque putter, it would be theoretically impossible to achieve, I assume you just try to get as close as possible. But isn't your weighting to compensate for the momentum dependant on the lie angle? Would you have seen the same behaviour of the PXG putter if you played around with holding it in different lie angles? I, personally is in the stage of dreaming of a lab putter, they feel amazing but is out budget for now.

@samhahn6950 2 ай бұрын

Tough to answer your question via text, but if you’ve ever got a chance to come out to Oregon, would be happy to get nerdy with you! As for owning one yourself one day, we do have a 20% off custom sale coming up for black Friday!

@dominicfrank77 2 ай бұрын

@@samhahn6950 I have an order ready to hit but see a used one at PGA here in Dallas. Watched a few more video's and glad I did! Will the 20% be for online orders? Hard to wait for the build but 20% is legit! Will that be for online custom? Thank you.....can't wait to get it in my hands regardless. Friend of mine was part of your PGA guys your proto's were given to.....been watching LAB and congrats on your success.

@samhahn6950 2 ай бұрын

@ the 20% off sale will be for custom putters on the website only. Hope you enjoy it when you get it!

@dominicfrank77 2 ай бұрын

@ awesome and will be anxiously waiting!!!

@rawootnash73 23 күн бұрын

Can you do the revealer test for the odyssey square to square and evnroll puteer

@cindymason5575 2 ай бұрын

Great video. Can we get the same comparison against the new Evnroll zero1 mallet that just came out?

@samhahn6950 2 ай бұрын

I doubt I'll do another video. The 2 stainless steel ones perform very poorly. Even more torque than the Allan. The one with the hole in it does pretty well in the revealer but they are a little different putter to putter. And as soon as you start messing with grips and lie, the torque increases exponentially.

@cindymason5575 2 ай бұрын

@ okay thank you for the reply much appreciated. I will be ordering the DF3.

@cme12e65 3 ай бұрын

I booked a flight to Oregon next week to do a LAB in-person fitting on Friday and then attend the Oregon - Ohio State football game Saturday. Can't wait to get my new LAB.

@demsareunamerican6800 3 ай бұрын

Hilarious, you're paying to get fitted, flying to LAB. PXG comes to their customers. So you're spending how much for a putter with flying to Oregon and Club?

@Belbivdevoe 3 ай бұрын

Sounds like a sick trip

@BIIIKES 2 ай бұрын

@@demsareunamerican6800 Sometimes people like to travel places for the experience. Have fun with your PXG. To each is their own.

@BigGrazP71 Ай бұрын

@@demsareunamerican6800 they for sure do not come to you, and ive literally been gaming pxg for years.

@kelvinfannon8416 Ай бұрын

@@demsareunamerican6800you might not get this but finishing up work to travel for a new cracking putter fitting then taking a game in sound like a buzz to me

@JCWithrow-i7b 14 күн бұрын

Would you test the Axis 1?

@johnhoie-hj7cg 4 ай бұрын

What about the Honu putters?

@yoric7200 2 ай бұрын

Can we get the Evnroll zeros in the gizmo please.

@markblowers8387 2 ай бұрын

Any release dates for the new prototypes seen on WRX article from September

@77bovi 2 ай бұрын

please if you can put Callaway's awkwardly named square to square putters on the revealer!

@gregcarnall9097 4 ай бұрын

I see a lot of comments on LAB and the Allan from golfers who have tried neither, which s not very informative for anyone. I have had both, the MEZZ and i now have the Allan putter, so i have hands on experience for both. The MEZZ i struggled with especially distance control which is normally a strength of mine. It was good from 10 feet and in, but didnt notice any real improvement from my EVNROLL gamer. I kept it about a month and moved it on. I have now had the Allan for a few weeks and can honestly say i have never puttered as well, both distance control and holing out. Im a 6 handicapper but have always felt i should hole more 6-10 footers, and with the Allan i have. Just played today and Arccos had me as +6.4 strokes gained putting, 26 putts and holed everything inside 10 feet and a couple longer ones. I dont care who has the best zero torque putter or how they achieve it. All i know is this putter feels incredibly stable and it doesnt work against you natural path, its a funny feeling but it just works and has improved my putting. Im sure the LAB putters are equally as good, but for me i didnt get on with it.

@samhahn6950 4 ай бұрын

Yeah distance control can be a thing with our stuff at first because of the ACTUAL absence of torque. Not saying that to be snarky but its a reality of physics and its effect on bio mechanics. Quite easy fixes if you'd ever like to try again. Hit me up anytime. Glad you are enjoying your new putter. Generally when we balance putters like the PXG (we do sometimes upon special request) people end up pulling putts after the honeymoon as you see with Backstryke or Axis 1. And FWIW, the only reason I have bothered to engage is their marketing claims which any way you cut it, are false. Its not a zero torque putter and if they'd simply offered it as what it is and talked about the benefits of toe up putters that open and then close, have at it. But they are being pretty deliberate about using our language and even using a very skewed device to justify using the language. Doesn't sit great with me...

@gregcarnall9097 3 ай бұрын

@@samhahn6950 Hi Sam, you offered the opportunity to hit you up on how you could possibly fix the not quite getting the ball to the hole when i last tried a LAB putter. I'm open to having a conversation about that and possibly giving the new DF3 a chance? Many thanks

@samhahn6950 3 ай бұрын

@@gregcarnall9097 great! You might not find as much difficulty with D3 versus our other models, but if you do, it’s quite simple. The trick is to swing it longer, not harder! If you search KZbin for “LAB golf lag putting“ there’s a super easy drill to help you get dialed on using length of stroke to control speed versus acceleration

@samhahn6950 2 ай бұрын

@@gregcarnall9097 hi Greg! It’s really just about letting gravity do the work rather than acceleration. Longer putt, longer stroke, and vice versa. If you search KZbin for LAB golf lag Putting drill you’ll see a short video that’s basically about one-handed Putting but it really does help get the speed dialed in

@raymondrapcavage5746 2 ай бұрын

Great content and love a USA golf Company !

@kolchak357 4 ай бұрын

Any plans to add a 33” option to the stock DF3 lineup?

@lougostinger6574 3 ай бұрын

I’m interested in the chair in the background. Looking at new work bench high chair. What brand is it? Would you recommend it?

@Mr.Big33 4 ай бұрын

Squared to the path at all time, I get it. But is it a real issue in putting? When one holds the club, unless with certain manipulations, the face should ALREADY stay squared to the path. Please correct me if I am wrong on this, because it's simply physics.

@brandonlambert1586 3 ай бұрын

Face closure rate and face angle at impact can be a huge deal on putts from 10-15 ft and longer for high level players. Making 1-2 more per round can be the difference between winning and losing. The thought behind zero torque is that there won't be weight offset from the shaft line and the arc it produces, thus your hands won't have to counteract the moment (torque) made by that weight (usually toe weight) when in motion. The amount of weight in putters is so small that this torque might only produce a face that is 0.1* off but for a pro that can be a variable they just don't want to see. As you say above if you hold it tight enough it shouldn't move, similar to something needing enough force applied to break sliding friction resistance. I'm sure if you wanted to see the real impact on the stroke you could add a bunch of steel (a whole lb) to the toe of a putter and swing it to get an amplified version of what toe hang is doing and why LAB is trying to eliminate it.

@Zangrievance 4 ай бұрын

Are those new LAB prototypes in the back???! 😍

@angrygardener2430 4 ай бұрын

Cool vid! I tried the PXG putter the other day… super nice. Can’t wait to demo a LAB sometime soon, I’m totally “sold” on the LAB concept, but haven’t seen one in the wild yet

@Jacob-ed1bl 4 ай бұрын

I've owned and have been fitting for many expensive putters. I love my Bettinardi putter but it wasn't forgiving on miss hits so I got fitted and purchased the DF3. It's freaking amazing! I've never dropped so many putts in my life, the key is to let the putter do its job and don't manipulate it. I've beat all my buddies "different people " the last five times because of my putting. Two of them are going to purchase a LAB now lol.

@Djrexydude 4 ай бұрын

awesome, seriously since the lab putter. (about 3 months now) I'm still having trouble with distance control but my ball rolls on its line every single time. it's insane , it's all speed and distance control with the lab putter. best 700+$ I've ever spent .. Df3 forever

@samhahn6950 4 ай бұрын

Trouble getting it to the hole from long range? Swing the putter longer, not harder!

@Mr.Big33 4 ай бұрын

If you are having pace or distance control after months, maybe this putter is not for you.

@Djrexydude 4 ай бұрын

it took me a while to get use to it, if anything it took me a while to trust it lol.. it's weird but once you get use to it it's insane@@Mr.Big33

@JonPon400 2 ай бұрын

That red lab with the white shaft tho. 🤤

@mrb9849 4 ай бұрын

I switched from a spider GT to a DF3. GT had a lovely roll but the DF3 was better, my putting has improved. My friends have noticed im sinkimg a lot more 4 to 20 footrrs ❤

@BigDawgCAM 4 ай бұрын

I would also second the Spider putters if someone needs a cheaper alternative. I can see why Scottie went for one, even if I too chose the DF3

@FredzGolf 4 ай бұрын

Love the intro :) feels honest

@lookkool 4 ай бұрын

Not sure if there are many people interested in buying a PXG putter, but I enjoyed the testing explanation.

@aarondrossart6026 4 ай бұрын

I mean, I was until I saw this video.

@Cornish_Maid 4 ай бұрын

Hi Sam, just ordered my df3 putter today from here in the UK, got fitted by yourselves via a video, so looking forward to seeing it, let alone using it. Thanks so much for the effort and support from LAB.

@nunyo7259 Ай бұрын

Assuming your grip pressure has to be light as a feather for any of this to even have a fraction of a factor?

@Kkiyan808 4 ай бұрын

Just a question: you said the cross bar is placed at the balance point or an 1” or so around it for the DF3 Lab. My question, wouldn’t all putters have a different balance point in the shaft build? If you were to adjust that crossbar to each putters balance point, would it in turn change the outcome for the head movement?

@samhahn6950 4 ай бұрын

Correct. Our production revealer have an adjustable crossbar. The vast majority of the putters we balance are between 33 and 35 inches.

@corylynch9176 2 ай бұрын

It sounds like you’re wondering, what the balance point of the PXG putter was…

@markblowers8387 2 ай бұрын

Will you be able to do a video testing the Evnroll zero torque putters please.

@samhahn6950 2 ай бұрын

We have. Same as this one

@RCGolf 4 ай бұрын

The PXG putter is supposed to open and close relative to the target line. They claim it stays square to the path, which just tells me its marketing a face balanced putter in a new way.

@Zerpersande 3 ай бұрын

Yes, you’re right. Additionally the opening and closing seems to get worse as the swing is repeated over and over, which doesn’t take place on a real putt. After reading your comment I went back and looked more closely. The putter doesn’t seem to stay square to the swing path at all.

@pbode1 4 ай бұрын

There you go. LAB is still reigning and Sam the OG! After being remotely fitted one year ago I keep being in love my Mezz1. Only tiny problem would be the paint job with all these razor-like edges, I have specs of aluminum showing through the 'Adam Scott 2023' blue, but with these edges I am pretty sure it can't be helped. Must leave headcover on at all times while in the bag, I found that out after round #1. But to be fair, I have never owned a putter where the paint held on even if it had all rounded edges. An old TM Spider (DLL) I passed down to a fried is looking like a wounded zebra these days.

@davidgrieve3761 3 ай бұрын

When is the Oz 1 coming out?

@haddenmiller4364 4 ай бұрын

Nicely done, Sam.

@MrSellsAlot 4 ай бұрын

Why doesn’t it twist in the tubular revealers?

@samhahn6950 4 ай бұрын

Because the notch that supports the putter at the bottom is pinching the shaft just enough to make it not move. However, I’m told by some who’ve actually used it that as soon as you get over 15 or 20 feet, it does start to move. In ours it moves instantly.

@SpoilerGolf 4 ай бұрын

Good work! Keep it up! Let's Roll

@jordanmelland4112 Ай бұрын

Love that you can see the prototype OZ.1’s in the background 😂

@RodDandyGolf 7 күн бұрын

@samhahn6950 longtime user of DF 2.1 and DF3. I don’t buy LAB putters because I think they will magically make every 8’ putt, but I love the feel and roll they give the ball. I do believe the zero torque tech, I don’t think that’s a sham. HOWEVER, my biggest question on “the revealer” is that it just hangs those putters in space with zero pressure on the grip….i know you all promote light grip pressure, but as soon as a golfer takes a normal grip, even with light grip pressure, doesn’t that pretty much negate what the revealer is showing? Nobody puts zero force on the putter grip, nobody. Curious on that ! Thx!

@andymares4891 4 ай бұрын

Hi, Sam. Just got a df3. Why do I feel the putter aims left (right handed golfer) and the ball always misses left on a straight putt?

@samhahn6950 4 ай бұрын

I can’t speak to you feel it. Ames left, though he might mess around with ball position and shaft lean. Maybe lean the shaft a touch more towards the target and it might set up better. But you are likely missing left because your aimed left! Might seem strange, but it’s actually a good thing to have such a single miss. Singular miss means singular fix!

@andymares4891 4 ай бұрын

@@samhahn6950I play to a +4 handicap, but putting always has been my struggle. On my plumbers neck Scotty I’ve always felt that I had draw my putts and they start on line. With the df3 I feel if I make the same stroke the ball starts and ends left. Any tips to get used to a lab putter?

@CarlosGonzalez-zc7bq 4 ай бұрын

LAB made me a better putter, with actual strokes falling off my HC. LAB is here to stay, and we’ll never forget the OG that actually are torque balanced

@nobi-k 2 ай бұрын

How about Evnroll Zero putters do in the revealer?

@samhahn6950 2 ай бұрын

The two stainless ones do worse than the Pxg in this video. The black one does a little better but still have torque in motion

@thrillhill9925 4 ай бұрын

Have tried both and both are great putters. I went with the PXG as it just suits my eyes better.

@rmmst49 4 ай бұрын

but the pxg forces you to counteract the rotational forces that the putter generates every swing you take. more power to you if the eye issue takes precedence over that.

@thrillhill9925 3 ай бұрын

@@rmmst49 I appreciate the info. I have used the same putter for 9 years so switching was a big move for me. I tested both and they each seem like great putters. I am more about feel and looks and the Allen just suited my eye better and had the feel I was looking for. I am putting great with the PXG. As for the "forces" i could not tell a difference.......science may favor the LAB but not sure there is enough difference for me to notice

@jonathanmooney71 4 ай бұрын

Hey Jonathan, Unfortunately, we have had to move away from selling/servicing putters with the BGT stability shaft. We just cannot get this shaft to balance with our newer models. For this reason, we are unable to build you a new DF3 with this shaft. We are working on a trade in program, and should have the details in a few weeks. If you'd like to reach out around then, we may be able to offer you trade in credit for your DF 2.1 which you can use to buy a new DF3. Louis Rizzo Outlet, Warranties, & Special Requests L.A.B. Golf Company

@TuMadre1337 4 ай бұрын

Sounds like they are willing to work with you partially on a credit?

@davidgrieve3761 3 ай бұрын

Has the Odyssey 2016 Toe Up putter been tested in the Revealer?

@samhahn6950 3 ай бұрын

Yes, same as the Allan.

@davidgrieve3761 3 ай бұрын

Thanks Sam. I’m a fan of the 2.1. Best wishes.

@jalbert8083 3 ай бұрын

wooo are those concept putters on the wall behind you?

@iamawesome6462 4 ай бұрын

Does the angle of the shaft and the grip not benefit from the way your revealer is setup? In simple terms, if I put something on an angle, it will have less movement already to begin with against two anchor points which are located in a straight line?

@samhahn6950 4 ай бұрын

No impact. The putters are balanced on the shaft axis.

@jefjef4359 2 ай бұрын

Please test evnroll zero, want to see how do you think about it

@CharlesFromage 4 ай бұрын

Seems like this is good for the market. LAB seems to be market leader in lie angle balancing but maybe it will push them to adopt innovations from competitors (face inserts, shapes, etc). A playing partner had one at my last time at the course. Color me impressed. The lie balancing clearly works but it seemed like it takes a lot of effort to move longer putts (which scares me as an admittedly terrible lag putter).

@canyonaro 4 ай бұрын

I have an armlock Mezz. At first I left a ton of long putts short because I learned I was using my wrists to add a little extra power with my old putter. Minor adjustment to the length of my stroke took care of it. If you do go LAB, you gotta give it a solid five rounds. I thought I wasted my money for the first two rounds but then it kinda clicked for me to just swing it. Don't manipulate the face, don't overthink, just swing. And if you do that, it's amazing.

@taylorgentry4845 3 ай бұрын

LAB putters are the best putters in the business, period!!!

@derekcarday 3 ай бұрын

I actually prefer to have a little bit of resistance against the swivel on my putts. helps me feel the putt better. I probably wouldn't putt well with a LAB

@samhahn6950 3 ай бұрын

I thought the same thing when I first started using it, but the adjustment period is pretty short and what’s left is the ability to just focus on a target rather than managing or reacting to the instrument

@shmirginhymer1867 4 ай бұрын

I want to try a DF3, but am no where near a place that I can test out different styles, lengths, etc. Can I use current putter specs for a LAB? Say I find one for a decent price and want to cut it from 35 to 33.5, will that mess up it's balance?

@canyonaro 4 ай бұрын

Cutting it should be ok. Changing the grip might not be. btw you can send to LAB and they'll rebalance it for you I think for $100.

@shmirginhymer1867 4 ай бұрын

@@canyonaro oh nice. Thanks

@wenbray6396 3 ай бұрын

Does a person have to get fitted for the LAB putter to work? If so are there fitters all over the US? Or, can you just buy one off the rack, of course whenever you can find one.

@samhahn6950 3 ай бұрын

If the putter lays down flush without a fight, you’re likely good to go but always good to get fit. We offer a remote fitting through the website that’s super easy and extremely accurate.

@asagers 3 ай бұрын

Would love to know what Adam Scott (1st round) and Ben An were putting with in the Presidents Cup?!

@kepler240 3 ай бұрын

Coming soon to a theater near you....'Putter Wars 2. This time, there will be BLOOD!'

@laikmiandu 3 ай бұрын

could you compare lab to axis1 putters? That would be very interesting, since they claim the labs are only lie angle balanced due to the longer revealer... which you seem to disprove with the shorter revealer...

@samhahn6950 3 ай бұрын

If you search "axis 1 torque revolution" you'll see it but it performs exactly as the allan does.

@laikmiandu 3 ай бұрын

@@samhahn6950 cool, thanks

@Evan-zj5mt 2 ай бұрын

Do you have some sort of guide to working out what loft, lie and length are best. The closest retailer to me is a 50 mile drive and they want £100 to fit me. If I'm spending £500 on a putter that is meant to be customised, I feel like the retailer owes me a fitting as that should be included in the price (lets be honest, it's a sales meeting).

@samhahn6950 2 ай бұрын

If you use our remote fitting process, you can get answers to all these questions. Click on the button for fitting at the top of the homepage and you'll see the instructions

@Evan-zj5mt 2 ай бұрын

@@samhahn6950 fantastic, thanks!

@thearabiangolfer 4 ай бұрын

Well done man !

@stevehenson3325 4 ай бұрын

Hey Sam, what’s that in the back corner at the end of the work bench? I see putters with lab grips, but those certainly don’t look like current lab putter heads 🤔🤔

@adinmcmaster1956 2 ай бұрын

Not gonna lie... Could not take my eyes off of the oz.1 protos in the back LOL!!

@bknoxx 4 ай бұрын

i see alot of people stop using the LAB because of it feeling dead is that true ?

@samhahn6950 4 ай бұрын

We’ve had complaints about feel in the past but not so much with the DF3

@mickritchie1815 4 ай бұрын

Love my lab df3. The perfect putter. Feel is unreal on distance putts and it takes some anxiety out of the short putts You can still pull or push putts but that’s tension related for me.