Sorry Lando, it's not just luck. It's also talent.

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[@yelistener]

This vid is a bit late, but hopefully it's worth the wait.

[@snyperf1]

Yeah such a great video man, keep posting!!!

[@theglitch312]

You’re just lucky we keep waiting for you 😉

[@Max085]

@@yelistener Absolutely! You‘re providing the best F1 videos here on KZbin. Please keep posting.

[@alexiskeller2724]

Yeah definitely worth !

[@ItsDeffoScott]

Great vids man, thanks.

[@roderickverduijn2750]

Also max knowing the starting procedure and following it correctly was not luck….

[@francisco5578]

This is not talked about enough, everyone complains about max and the rules, but the thing is he knows them so well that he bends them to his advantage.

[@MyRealName]

Norris getting only 5k euro penalty for that is luck (and British bias).

[@mishahendriks3020]

The decision for a penalty shouldn’t have taken until after the race. It should have been made during the race. This was a major safety breach and a total lack of knowledge of the rules, as rightly mentioned here before, Max knows the rules and uses them (overtakes in corners). And apparently Max and others can read, as there was a big flashing sign saying “aborted start”. Can’t be more obvious…

[@CriPtycGT]

​@@francisco5578 that's because people hate on the guy who wins

[@megasalexandrosthegreat]

That should have been a penalty for Lando according to the rules. But the british Bias won t allow Lando and George to be penalized

[@ClovissenpaiDotR]

1. Has literally the best car of the year 2. Bins every single start 3. Bins every single restart 4. Literally never performs in the rain, despite pundits lauding his rain ability 5. Has to have his team tell his teammate to move out of the way to let Lando pass 6. Goes from p1 to p6 while his rival goes p17 to p1 When are the british press going to stop talking about how great he is?

[@dirtaylulu]

and if you listen to Onboards, he is getting help from 2 engineers on how to drive whole race, meanwhile GP simply updates Max on delta to cars ahead and behind.

[@Kiosk.]

Never. They are the most biased and insufferable commentators to listen to, in any sport

[@CheshireCyclingSnaps]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/epO5mWNvp96madUsi=ZhmCx-yP8sgDE8E0 @8:25 a great summary of the man who prob knows more about F1 than anyone

[@46harry]

Thanks for this comment, because sometimes i feel like im the only person that cannot understand why he is hailed as one of the best british drivers of all time (even before this season) when he has repeatedly shown he just isnt it and i cannot stand the mad hype over him Yeah hes good but not it

[@Evarakeus]

Peoples' opinions on drivers' wet-weather skill seems incredibly vibes-based in F1; for years I've heard Seb was a master in the wet, yet if you look at his record he's only won three weather-affected races, about 8% of the total wet races he's driven. Convinced one really good wet-weather drive will get people thinking a driver is good at them (in Seb's case, that Toro Rosso win) when reality they might bottle more of them than they succeed in (Canada 2011, Germany 2018, Singapore 2017)

[@ghiovaneyfrancois2070]

Team: “What damage do you have?” Lando: “Talent.”

[@roderickverduijn2750]

Emotional damage 🤪

[@justlovelyaintit]

I am very feel .

[@Yuzuripe]

he wasn't kidding back then 🤣

[@VROOTERZ]

Stop dude he already dead

[@learnbytrying]

His answer didn't make any sense then and it doesn't make any sense now. If the reason for an incident is talent, it's because it was insufficient to begin with. The incident cannot have an effect on the talent.

[@Ninten-2023]

Nobody's gonna talk about the transition in 2:07? That was hell of clean.

[@GoianoAmazonia]

i was watching the scene, then suddenly it read Alonso 😯 i really missed it at first

[@RichyPink]

Few things shown in this video that i want to give more feedback on for the people that maybe have not done any racing or even simulators. Verstappens insane throttle control at the start, not only controlling the wheel spin on the start by managing throttle but then using longer gears at low engines revs in order to deliver less torque to the back tires and be able to find grip quicker. Im sure all 20 drivers on the grid do it, but to which extend is the real talent which is why you see a greater start in Verstappens POV than that of Landos POV (this could also be attribute to the amount of water on the surface and even set up but those are variables we do not have data on) Verstappens foot is really just traction control at this point which is an incredible amount of control from him. His trail braking technique is remarkable as well. Trail braking is when you brake into the corner at high speeds and ease up as you approach the apex, again this is a technique used by every driver there and we lack a lot of data as the graphics only show an on/off which is easier to understand for casual viewers but is far from the reality of braking. Since everyone does it, the individual skills comes into play once again, because Verstappen manages to brake consistently in the same spot, time and time again regardless of the amount of water on the surface. Showing an incredible amount of skill and presicion having to adjust his footing by centimeters on braking depending on how dry or wet T1 was, which is immesurable by the naked eye but i assure you, if we had the data we could see those micro adjustments. The confidence on his car, track, setup and knowledge of racing in the rain. In motorsports one of the scariest things is driving in the rain. Jimmy Broadbent a sim racer turned real life racer has commented on how challenging it was for him to adapt to racing in the wet IRL as sims have never been close to replicating real weather conditions. As one unexpected formed pool of water can send your car flying of to the barriers. Interlagos was repaved before this event, meaning every patch of water, ever surface, everywhere where you expected pools to be form could change from the year before to this one. A change this big cant even be practice in simulator models like iracing as the scan they have of Interlagos is from a few pavements before. So the amount of confidence and trust you need to have on ur skills as a driver and the car, is actually impressive to say the least. I can go on and on, but i think i wrote way to much lol but i arealdy went throught the trouble of writing this shit so i might as well post it, cant wait to get cooked in the comments!

[@Bigfarmer8]

Excellent

[@xXchaosassXx]

Your comment sir is uncookable.

[@carstenschroder7054]

👍

[@sbh123yt]

Thanks for the detailed explanation man; it is awesome; It is clear to me that Max is doing something better, but I never understood what; so thanks again :-)

[@RichyPink]

@sbh123yt wholesome comment thanks 😭

[@effingcray0213]

They say rain makes all cars equal on track. But rain also exposes the skill gap between drivers.

[@ArthurRJ-Racing]

That quote is big BS. You cannot go P17 to P1 without a good car. Also see how the Alpine cars were on the podium. Are they the greatest drivers after Max? They're good but not the best.

[@TypeRTeg]

@@ArthurRJ-Racing So every pundit and current or former racing drives says it negates car performance to a large degree but you say otherwise? That was a master class from Max in probably the 3rd best car this season. Nobody said it wasn't a good car but look at Lando and Oscar in the quickest cars, where did they start and where did they finish? Both Gasly and Ocon have won races in midfield cars, something not many on the grid can do. Call it luck or whatever ypu want but Max showed in 2016and 2024 that no one is on his level at that track in wet conditions. Just look at all other cars on lap 1 struggling and Max is on a different line, finding grip that no one else can but sure its all car right?

[@AKStovall]

@@ArthurRJ-Racing it takes immense talent to run a good race in the rain. it also takes a good bit of strategy and/or luck. the 17 to 1 run for Max was about 95% talent, 2% luck, and the rest the car. Same as Lando's win in Miami... gotta be able to put yourself in that position to benefit from a lucky break. Ocon and Gasly aren't bad drivers... they're just in bad cars. Rain is the ultimate equalizer. all the cars are basically equal in the wet... the drivers will force the cream to rise to the top.

[@artanisplays4125]

@@ArthurRJ-Racing I hope you can explain about Perez. They have practically the same car in Red Bull

[@tarettime9392]

@@AKStovall the run from p17 (really 15) to p5 was talent 95% talent. From p5 to p2 was 95% luck then p2 to p1 was about 75% talent (25% luck cause he was unable to pass Ocon until the restart where he was able to out brake him)

[@aventusV33]

Russell was asking to stay out because he expected a red flag. Verstappen stayed out because he expected a red flag. Norris, if anything, was asking for a box to overtake. That ain't luck

[@Max085]

Well said

[@sviniciusbraga]

Norris also asked for team orders right at the beginning of the sprint, despite being right behind Oscar. Sounds like he doesn't put the effort to get the job done on his own, the team needs to give him an easy scenario and then he does something ( or not )

[@jeffsan0.5]

If anything Russell is the unlucky one, he was proper pissed when he heard the red flag.

[@maximesinatra2321]

Not only Russel, there's a compilation of most drivers asking for red flags / saying it's gonna go red

[@elecovanrenss1352]

this is a conspiracy. but what if norris and his team knew before hand it would not have been a red flag. until Calin pinto crashed his car. it was not a red flag. i think the FIA did not want to red flag it at all. and norris and his team knew this. therefor norris said it was luck because of the red flag situation, because he knew originally the FIA did not plan to use a red flag at all ,even drivers knew it should have been red flagged already even before Calin pinto his crash. so FIA wanted to just wait till weather is cleared and continue, because this would have given Norris a huge advantage since he did the pitstop under yellow flag.

[@Gulliott]

Max even defended Lando when he arguably did get lucky with the safety car in Miami. Poor sportsmanship by Lando to express himself the way he did.

[@borisdemelo]

Lando himself attributed that Miami win to luck as well. But he’s not referring to Max when he says ‘not talent’ here. The question was specified about the red flag and he was referring to the gamble *FOR ALL DRIVERS* to stay out vs box. Most drivers gambled on there being a red flag, some like Lando gambled on no one crashing under a safety car (both reasonable gambles to take), but someone did ultimately crash under SC and red flagged the race. The ‘not talent’ statement has been taken wildly out of context by fans on social media. Lando has always complimented Max’s skill, but people forget all that after one out of context video gets circulated.

[@barbosa7797]

@@borisdemelo indeed

[@shaded076]

@@borisdemelo regardless of the context, it's still a very poor response from lando. he had no reason to bring up the idea that it wasn't talent and merely luck, and look what's happened. additionally, lando effectively asked to box before the red flag came out, so he kinda shot himself in the foot there.

[@miniboard1]

@@borisdemeloHe used ‘luck’ and ‘no talent’ at the same time…and he ment it in regarding to VER. Not backpedaling…

[@googlreviews7813]

Absolutely, I like Lando so I am disappointed to see that side of him.

[@rigel8755]

Lando is so talented he needs his team mate on every damn race to lend his position so he can get an extra point to help him on the championship (while driving the fastest car); While Max is so lucky he's been managing alone his gap between Lando since Miami and maximizing his points. (while driving the second and sometimes third fastest car).

[@ThaDutchDK1989]

And. He. Needs uncle Johnny in the stewards room giving penalty’s to Verstappen and still can’t deliver 🤦‍♂️

[@Hermanubis1]

mostly third and sometimes 4th

[@dexter_ay]

Missed Vertappen's radio pushing to stay on track knowing definitely its going red at some point vs Norris who was begging to box even before VSC!

[@angusburston9980]

That Piastri overtake was mighty impressive. From so far back, it's crazy.

[@AnoesiQ]

Yea, still can’t understand- how he stopped this car to make the corner, pure madness

[@POVRR3]

And Lando needs team orders to overtake Piastri😂😂😂

[@10MasterM]

I think that also shows that the car underneath him must have been comfortable to drive that day.

[@Eis_]

​@@AnoesiQNotice how Max was using a different racing line while Oscar was using pretty much the normal (dry) racing line. The dry line is notorious for having so much rubber embedded into it, which is good for normal conditions, but not on wet. Water and rubber just becomes a slippery mess. TLDR: Max had more grip using the wet line that Oscar on the dry line. It's also the reason why he can brake later compared to other drivers.

[@CertifiedSlamboy]

@@Eis_ TLDR for the TLDR: ✨Talent✨

[@BenChatty]

This is the most chill roast I've ever seen.

[@cesar_candanozah]

hahahahaha

[@GaadhiMahendra]

Classic "yelistener"

[@adityapatki1693]

Yelistener coming through with the FACTS

[@manishapadave8390]

fax

[@certifiedcapybaraenjoyer]

brutal. Love it.

[@8tonystark8]

As does RPM kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqKtaIxsrZaCjqMsi=_UASyFsq31ikSllz&t=12m10s

[@CarlosSamuel-ms9ee]

A bit disingenuous to edit out the fact that Norris was talking specifically about the red flag though, not that Max not pitting is entirely luck. The worst thing Norris did was use the word 'talent' rather than judgement.

[@lIlIlllIIlIlIllIl]

@@CarlosSamuel-ms9ee Yes, but at the same time you have to blame him for chosing this specific word and wording while being native english, he could have expressed himself in so many ways yet was so blinded by his lost championship that he didnt care about anything (mainly PR); That proves that he is not the high individual some media try to make us think (he still is a superb driver, but not of the highest level)

[@azndude8668]

As a Lewis fan, I can confidently say that this drive from Max was one of the greatest wet drives of all time. What an unbelievable race from him, truly in awe watching that live.

[@GloomGaiGar]

Lewis himself said it. Game respects game and not downplay their rivals with "luck".

[@denimax2014]

I‘m a Max fan, at the point of the interview Lando couldn’t know how amazing Max‘s drive was without watching any onboards. I think we shouldn‘t hate him for that!

[@Bangmomsmakebombs]

I mean you don’t need to watch any footage to know he went from p17 at the start to being at the top of the podium

[@ml8022]

Hate is a big word, but dislike is more appropriate

[@kentaoji939]

Lando's Logic : Max P17 to P1 : *Luck* Lando bottling start 90% from his pole : *Talent*

[@askeladden450]

To be fair, he wasnt talking about max when he said this, only his own situation. Ofcourse that logic is defected too since he lost so many positions himself without red flag.

[@Nanoarciere]

i still remember on nl when he did 30 laps behind max after losing p1 at turn 1 as usual, and finished the race with +30sec, just wtf, how you need 30 laps to passing someone 1 sec slower? is so bad.

[@tonamg53]

To be fair to Lando, he didn’t mentioned about “talent” during the interview because he has none…

[@askeladden450]

@@Nanoarciere considering oscar couldnt pass charles even with a tyre advantage, it really wasnt bad at all. Lando was sitting back to preserve tyres so he could make the overtake once the right time came. Lets not start hating a driver for something so ridiculous. Max also failed to overtake a much slower Ferrari in hungary and spa. It happens.

[@zq3yp]

@@Nanoarciere just say you're a DTS fan

[@jeffery7281]

Damn, compared with Max in rain, Norris just looked like an amateur

[@sayagubernurtololgabisaker1220]

Even Ocon still better driving in rain than Norris.

[@juliannatividad9920]

@@sayagubernurtololgabisaker1220 I was thinking the same thing. We know Max is in another world but we gotta commend Esteban and Pierre for making no mistakes as well to bring home P2 and P3.

[@DerpSherman]

​@@juliannatividad9920If not mistaking it, the three learned to drive karts on rainy conditions,or at least that's something Gasly and Ocon commented on the post race interviews. And it shows for the French duo, they committed no mistakes and were able to keep a solid pace against faster drivers (considering that Alpine was ninth before Brazil),Max praised Ocon's pace in the post race,while Gasly was able to keep a faster Russell behind to protect his podium,well deserved podium,no doubt.

[@nickking7375]

Both French drivers did an awesome job, and Tsundoda too. I think, the RedBull is not the best Car, but they are the best Team. They hardly do not make any mistakes.

[@DerpSherman]

@@nickking7375 The Junior RB team did a solid work as well,Liam defence basically gave the team the points they need so badly (sad that Tsunoda couldn't fight for that podium,but points are points).

[@JarelFloresca]

a talented 3-time race winner vs just a lucky 4-time world champion

[@christiannevandepol8757]

😂

[@PETROL_Ted78]

😂👌🏻

[@leoissomermo905]

😂😂😂

[@SirAvadah]

😂😂

[@Locacola7]

real

[@helenooft9664]

Yelistener, thank you for this beautiful video, so we can see the skills of both drivers, was a lot of work, but i really appreciated it.

[@dinocharlie1]

4:08 Lando had actually lost 5 positions to Tsunoda, Hamilton and Alonso, but he cut turn 2 to come back in front and only gave the place back to his teammate.

[@Jon-cw8bb]

Yea could've been a penalty tbh

[@xeroxsos3659]

Yeah was wondering that as well, quite surprised that the stewards didn't enforce that one. He clearly cut the corner there

[@nushydude]

They are usually lenient on the starts and restarts. That's all he had going for him.

[@thedeegee1601]

"We did nothing wrong." ... yep >_> So much talent that they even had to ask Piastri to let him pass.

[@frozenburrito9313]

let him pass, twice, in a weekend

[@Duval-In-The-Wall]

Piastri had a 10 second penalty

[@woofy9977]

@@Duval-In-The-Walland yet he still couldn’t overtake Russell or Charles

[@Duval-In-The-Wall]

@@woofy9977 Yeah, that’s not what I was talking about

[@oteupai.2841]

"nothing we did wrong" it's just as insane as "not talent just luck"

[@playthegame1672]

he obviously meant the pitting under the vsc just before the red flag because the vsc ended the second they drove in... completely out of context

[@frozenburrito9313]

@@playthegame1672 I would argue pitting under heavy rain and giving track position is a very risky choice. Anyone could have binned it and red-flagged the race.

[@tarettime9392]

@@frozenburrito9313the tires were dying for him and George. They were given a VSC to pit under minimizing time loss. Strategically that’s the best things can get. A VSC pit stop during your pit window is solid decision making. The VSC unfortunately announced it was ending after he and George entered the pit lane meaning the way didn’t get the reduced time loss on the pitstop. Staying out banking a red flag is going to happen in the next few laps before your tires become undrivable and make you the CAUSE of the red flag is a huge gamble. That gamble paid off for them which was lucky. Landos assessment is spot on. They made the smart decision others made a huge gamble due to lucky timing the huge gamble paid off for the people that made it.

[@dsqi7757]

Talent is from P1 to P6 and drop positions every start 😢

[@TheMasterOfPuppets9]

Max dropped P2 to P6 in Mexico, will you jump so fast on him with the sarcasm? Didn't think so.

[@ReifinDFanchon]

Hey man, it took real talent to bottled all three (re)start.

[@doghat1619]

@@TheMasterOfPuppets9 The ferraris and McLarens were faster, Max wasn't going to finish better than 4th, and his penalties hurt Lando's race enough that it prevented him from winning. Max's race in Mexico tactically worked in his favour, 2nd to 6th is less points lost than 1st to 4th.

[@caioberlotti6873]

@@TheMasterOfPuppets9 well, Max didn't say that Norris finishing P2 in Mexico was "luck, not talent"... are you sure you wanna say shit like that?? Norris think he's the master of F1, but he isn't!! A 3 time race winner saying shit about a 3 time world champion and a 7 time world champion shows how arrogant and stupid he is!! He's not going to be world champion if he keeps going this way

[@canlein415]

@@TheMasterOfPuppets9 did you forget the 20s penalty? And the P6 from Lando didn't have any penalty (it should, as he violated the aborted start)

[@channel4ferrets]

As a Dutch Max Verstappen fan it's easy to hate Lando for saying this. But I'm sure he was talking about the luck with the strategy, not about the performance of Max. He knows how fast Max is.

[@Tony_Tyson]

The free tyre change under the red flag wasn't "just luck" either. It was a smart strategic decision that paid off. In recent history Red Bull has been making better strategy calls than other teams, including McLaren.

[@Selendeki]

If we give him the benefit of the doubt we can guess what he really meant, but the actual words he said he did imply that people who finished on podium were just lucky.

[@Sulemona]

@@Tony_Tyson oh yes. And Colapinto's crash was also part of red bull strategy lmao

[@Sulemona]

@@Selendeki he said it right after phrase 'there shouldnt be a red flag'. What are you talking about? He was speaking about strategy and strategy only

[@TehAzaack]

@@Sulemona McLaren could have made the same choice as RedBull, that's a lesson in life : you have to take risks to win

[@aGabay]

Of course Norris has talent... He fks up graciously!

[@sp0ker111]

Video titles are better every time 😂

[@ekmad]

Palmer did an excellent F1 TV episode on what Max was doing differently. Put simply he was finding grip everywhere the other drivers weren't. That takes *a lot* of talent in those conditions.

[@LouSassol69er]

15 fastest laps in a row says it all

[@vectro4284]

@@LouSassol69er 17 fastest laps in total iirc

[@SuperDutchGold]

Lando: "It's not talent, it's just luck.." Yelistener: "and I took that personally"

[@CockMcBallsddd]

Lol I think all of us with a brain took it personally.

[@MrAdemiM]

Every sane person took that personally

[@Justanaccountforthings]

F Lando, he will be forgotten new year. He had the best car more than half this season and he fluffed it hard.

[@78TBGAMER]

Yelistener: “and I took that out of context” Lando was replying to a question asking specifically about the red flag timing, not talking about the race as a whole

[@avint247]

Tbf actually every F1 content creator and f1 fan rn comes to Max defends after that lando statement. Safe to say Lando lost this championship and respect.

[@The_Noticer.]

1:21 shortshifting to not spin out as well. Yes he had a bit of luck with the red flag, but its actually rather insulting what Norris said that talent played no part in it.

[@serhiyroyter8434]

Another detail you could have included would be the back to back to back to back fastest laps that Verstappen picked up. Luck doesn’t get you that.

[@10MasterM]

Verstappen is just perfect at race starts, and restarts after the SC periods. Other drivers just need to learn from him. He's the example. In Brazil he showed his pure talent, at the same time I see how confident he was under braking into Turn 1.

[@sdewey4152]

Lando seems to keep trying to fight wheelspin on starts, it's happened a lot. He should just shift up instead of losing even more time.

[@Grafzaaiers]

That overtake on Piastri was nuts. That came from SO far away!

[@Asia-w6z]

Max is the best on the grid, he’s doing something crazy with the car that he has from the second half of the season

[@MonsterzNLD]

Lando reentereing the race was dangerous has hell

[@andreveenhuysen4108]

Lovely review of where the talent was that race and some nice background music!!!!!! Excellent job 🙂

[@Eis_]

For some people saying that the RedBull was a rocketship that's why he can do that: Lando's Pole lap is literally faster than him on the straights. Max only made up time in braking zones, mainly T1 and T11; also, notice how a lot of his overtakes are on T1's braking zone with him braking way, way later but still sticking it. That's actual talent, right there.

[@mpolikk]

not possible to compare time gained where without good setup comprehension of both cars imo. Would also make sense as of why Norris had terrible pace in the race ? Albeit he couldn't match Mercedes straight line speed ...

[@samuraijack1371]

He ain’t winning. He is behind by 62 points. Max would need to become Perez to lose this title

[@AKStovall]

@@mpolikk car was set up for the dry, not the wet... that is where the speed went. Couple that with Lando's limitless talent to bottle every start and restart possible. He was never winning the WDC, even with team orders.

[@WindmillStalker]

I don't think Max was braking late for his T1 overtakes. He gets on the brake quite early in fact, but he sheds speed and then just rolls the car into the corner with a lot more speed than the drivers who braked later.

[@zengerz]

@@mpolikk too big of a wing making too much drag, this was already told during the race

[@sevach]

After Verstappen got "lucky" there was precisely one car separating Max and Lando, Gasly. At the end of the race there were Ocon, Gasly, Russell, Leclerc... Piastri would also be here if Mclaren didn't ask him to swap(he had a penalty anyway, but physically he probably stays ahead). Sooo much luck.

[@tarettime9392]

After max AND the alpines got lucky with the red flag there was still George ahead of Lando then Gasly ahead of him. On the restart leclerc came in hot which made Lando have a moment when he took avoiding action and that cost him the other places. It was a fair bit late move by leclerc and the smallest response from Lando was too much for the conditions. It’s not him binning it like Alonso

[@Hermanubis1]

Lando should have been penalised for leaving the track and gaining an advantage

[@tarettime9392]

@ 😂😂😂 when dude?

[@b1oZARD]

Just look at what Max did with a dominant car last year, and what Lando does with a dominant car this year. I rest my case.

[@Milkywayboy]

I love this Strong work💪🏻 So sick of British bias

[@benfoxhall1095]

max pulling off some outrageous overtakes while lando is just stuck there

[@kye3170]

Verstappens car sounds awesome!

[@stefanoamsterdam7655]

Sounds like a blown diffuser after they banned it like 5 times

[@RA005EV10]

The sounds of Honda!🦾

[@paulhuisman8584]

@@stefanoamsterdam7655 Wait till RBR also add those MCL 'special' watercooled tires on their cars for the last couple of races.. Mate, mate zoef.....

[@stefanoamsterdam7655]

@@paulhuisman8584 watercooled tyres? Dafuq did i miss something? XD sounds genious though if u can hide it 🤣

[@hankrearden5460]

@@stefanoamsterdam7655 It's anti lag on the Turbo i think. Clearly there isn't a blown diffuser since the exhaust comes out behind it on these cars.

[@nrxd]

British press be real quite from Brazil Superb drive from Max

[@nrxd]

First BTW

[@mavadelo]

nah, they might have been mia with the press conference, to their credit I have seen a lot of British articles and videos praising Max for this drive including Sky, the Daily Mail and the Telegraph. The most notorious "Max haters"among the British Press.

[@drugoviic]

no they haven't they have been praising max and they've all pretty much conceded the championship to max,

[@ekmad]

BBC literally called it one of the best wet drives of all-time. I really wish Max fans weren't so obnoxious.

[@frankhuurman3955]

as a Max fan, nah man they were only missing at the press conference and that was weird indeed but after that he had nothing but praise

[@that1guy487]

Since 2020, I've been watching the world feed on a big screen and the Verstappen in car on a small screen. Every race and every qualifying. Max is usually very brave and very aggressive. His judgement of going aggressive and waiting for his opportunity is rarely wrong. This race was extra special. The Hamilton and Piastri pass didn't look possible when he pulled them off. He was stuck behind Leclerc, aggressive, but waiting for his opportunity for a while. His one mistake the whole race was trying to overtake Leclerc in the center s. He had a slight lock up and lost a chunk of time. 2024 > 2016 Max is a champion and Lando is an also ran.

[@TheHarrie93]

The red flag was luck (though with these conditions how lucky was it?) but to create the opportunity to capitalize on that luck that takes talent and skill. Max created his 'luck'

[@egj1975]

Lando made at least 5 mistakes in this race. Max has not made 5 mistakes the past 3 years

[@meislit9217]

Obviously that was just luck... Edit: obviously this is sarcasm

[@raj-athul-84]

​​​@@meislit9217yeah.. and going from p1 to p6 with two consecutive swapped positions from teammate is obviously talent.. 🤣🤣 since Max was lucky, FIA themselves released two exclusive videos on his incredible drive.. So why don't you weep alongside your cry babies Lando and brit media.. 🤣🤣 that would be awsome to see..

[@7right853]

@@meislit9217 People watching Formula 80 say it was the best individual performance they've seen. The funny thing is that people really think that without the red flag Max would not have won. As if it was already obvious that Norris would have gone into the crash barrier if he saw Max in the mirror. If Max is lucky somewhere, it’s only that such a mediocre person is driving a McLaren

[@soylentgreen8795]

​​@@raj-athul-84ever heard of sarcasm?

[@meislit9217]

@@raj-athul-84 as obviously as max winning 4 titles is just luck that comment was just sarcasm but I guess that went right over your head

[@IsSalty]

Lando has been one of my favourite “up and coming” drivers over the last few years, until this season. He’s been a dickhead on multiple occasions usually after his own mistakes. He’s just coming across as a spoilt rich kid not getting his own way.

[@chrisjurica9326]

Same, its so cringe and disappointing seeing his true colours this season, I honestly feel ashamed for rooting for him in the past. Comments like this one and also the cooldown room one with lewis just made me have zero respect for him now. It wont be long before Oscar takes the number 1 spot at Mclaren

[@IsSalty]

@ yep, I think Oscar has a higher skill ceiling.

[@8bits955]

same every since Miami his attitude changed and made me dislike him alot

[@yurilopes420]

i was always a piastri fan. funny enough i started liking f1 drivers more and more when i saw some clips of lando being a streamer and really funny, but i still prefered piastri 2023 came, and yeah, not the best but piastri is my man 2024 came and yeah norris is fighting for wdc, but i still think piastri is the next big thing. i got clowned on reddit, like everyday now i think people will finally see what im saying: piastri is wdc material. lando is simply objectively not. lando finds excuses. oscar is a gentleman. oscar congratulates people and never lets his ego show. lando literally cries in team radios as if it's anyone's fault but himself. repeatedly goes on interviews and AGAIN doubles down on his bullshit. much like stroll, he is incapable of looking back, analyzing, assessing the situation, and changing his mind. no, he's the best, best ever, mad talent, no mistakes, and verstappen's generational drive was just luck dude's nothing but a spoiled brat and the only thing piastri is lacking is the extreme balls to the wall attitude. dude is too respectful but let him get more comfortable and watch how WDC material the kid is. mark my words. ps: and between piastri and lando, only one of them keeps getting p1 by getting gifted positions. piastri had it once cause mclaren goofed the strategy, even then, it's like 1 to 4 or something

[@JaneFokster]

Very much the same. I even cried happy tears for him when he finally got his first win, but ever since something seems to have changed in him and he's become extremely unlikable. Shame.

[@Locacola7]

Dont forget Norris going off track and being behind at the apex, keeping the position and getting no penalty

[@johndansby3620]

Well done! Masterfull compilation that clearly shows Max’s smooth brilliance combined with taking full advantage of a bit of luck.

[@fauze35]

Lando her yarıştan sonra saçma demeçler veriyor. Padokta kulağından tutup onu kenara çekecek ya da sakin olması gerektiğini söyleyen birine ihtiyacı var. Şampiyonlar onun gibi yapmaz.

[@MontrealVII]

now i understand why people saying if Lando wins 2024 WDC would be the most undeserved WDC in history

[@matteof4275]

no need to worry, it will never happen haha

[@defnotatroll]

Stfu. No such thing as undeserved as long as its won on track

[@nicholastotoro7721]

Toss-up between that and Damon Hill in '96.

[@VictorTRGYT_2911]

I feel like if Oscar was in the same position with the same amount of years of experience he would actually win the races that Lando should've won this season and kept the WDC close, and maybe even win the WDC.

[@no-jb5vu]

​@@VictorTRGYT_2911pues yo no lo creo, este año Óscar ha sido una grandisima decepción, si ha demostrado algo es que tiene destellos pero no solidez de campeón

[@MCFoultier]

I am a bit guilty to liking the bashing of norris, but mostly since he got so hyped by the brits. Overall, he isnt doing a "bad" job, he is quantifyably significantly quicker than his teammate (17:4 in quali, 14:7 in races), and still everybody praises Piastri as the next big thing. In my opinion, he is doing quite well overall, but this season just mainly shows that its not easy to win, and that it is especially tough to beat verstappen over the course of a whole season even if he is driving only a half decent car

[@snowman22ism]

How many races has Piastri been told to allow Lando through? It hasn't been seven but it is going to change that total..

[@Arcadepown]

It is just Piastri’s 2nd season against 6th season for Norris. Piastri is closer in his 2nd season than Norris in his whole career. Come again.

[@BoswachtBlog]

@@snowman22ism At least 3 races Piastri let him through, so that number realistically is 11:10 races. And it's only Oscar's 2nd year in F1. I think Piastri is the better driver of the two, I also think neither of them will ever be WDC.

[@MCFoultier]

@@Arcadepown closer to what?

[@chrisjurica9326]

I feel Oscar has been pretty unlucky with how badly Mclaren have been bottling his races with their 'lando is priority' strategy calls just leaving him out to dry so many times too. I think if the roles were reversed Oscar would have been able to capitalise better. hes improved massively and learned how to manage his tyres. its only a matter of time until hes consistently wiping the floor with lando

[@F1clipsdips]

That overtake on Piastri was just pure insanity

[@MichaelCuthbertson-zl6in]

A GREAT VIDEO! WELL DONE! ABSOLUTELY SPOT ON. I used to respect Lando.......no more. He needs to harden up, and grow up! Blessings from Australia.....

[@johanburger4454]

This video basically dismantles anything norris has achieved in the past year. I understand he was upset with the turnout of the race, but imagine how verstappen felt during q2. He was the fastest out there by 0.5 on the wet Tyre. This was a moment in history to behold by All f1 fans. Max is king and you can't deny it now.

[@TheKingofrock37]

Objective and savage takedown of Norris

[@tarettime9392]

I don’t think you can call it an objective takedown when you’re cutting the context of his statements out of the video. His statement was purely about the call to pit under VSC instead of taking a gamble that there would Eva red flag in the next few laps before the tires became undeivable. His “we did everything right” is purely about the decision making to come into the pits with the VSC called during his pit window. His “it’s not talent it’s just luck” was about guessing a red flag would happen soon and being right. He caps it off with “it’s just luck and we got unlucky” the tires were getting bad for him and George so they came into the pits with the VSC called. The VSC ended right after they entered the pit lane which was unlucky. Then there was a red flag a few laps after giving those who stayed out a free pitstop. What part of that is a matter of talent?

[@ardakeremoglu1]

@@tarettime9392Yeah that statement was taken out of context everywhere. It's not that hard to understand what Norris meant, people just like to get on to the hype train and bash somebody. That being said, Norris could still do a better job at expressing what he thought about the situation imo.

[@tarettime9392]

@ I agree he could have worded it better. If he had said even “it was just a matter of luck” that would have helped. But media/instagram pages only quoting “it’s not talent just luck” and saying he was talking about max or even some saying “max only won because of luck not talent” (which I actually saw some putting in quotes) was absolutely wild to see and definitely drove the hate against him

[@bokebryant3985]

I think Norris was just talking about free pit stop in the red flag when he said it’s luck. HOWEVER, it actually took some talent to stay out there with those old inters under increasingly heavier rain, as a matter of fact, Norris wanted to pit so bad because he couldn’t handle the old tyres while driving behind Osama Bin Russell. So, even for the red flag alone, talent still plays a significant role.

[@griffinfaulkner3514]

Hell, even Russell was begging to stay out, Mercedes screwed him big time when they brought him in. Norris wanted to pit even sooner, but the team knew a red flag was coming at some point and pushed him to stay out until Mercedes boxed Russell. I find it hilarious that the two leading cars at that point had the exact same incorrect strategy call come from completely opposite sources.

[@bokebryant3985]

@ haha yes, funny how things are opposite. Russell always gamble and this season his gambling instinct is getting better and better

[@supernotnatural]

You clearly missed the important point which I expected from you yelistener. It's radio call of Max / Race Engineer GP. GP said It's a short heavy rain situation incoming and Max replied "If it's only 4 laps, we stay out", so Max stayed out was his decision knowing situation of heavy rain and expecting possible SC / Red Flag situation which happened. GP - Max radio comms were all about "This should be red flagged, yesterday was even better" topic. Without Colapinto's crash, this race would be red flagged anyway imo and Max would benefit from that too. It'snot luck, it's calculated experience based action.

[@localhobo5362]

Im kinda sad for George who was saying exact same thing to his team, they should stay out, but they called him in anyway

[@DerpSherman]

@@supernotnatural The Same was applied by the Alpine duo,they extended their stint as long as possible waiting for it to happen eventually.

[@PAULSWorld131]

Was waiting a long time for this compilation. Verstappen overtook Ocon for the lead practically blinded by the heavy rain mist and still hitting the apex to perfection. Besides that, all his overtakes where done without DRS on own qualities and merit. Thank you for this beautiful video!

[@EustTube]

Lando's post-race interview was completely delusional and ignorant. This one race proved Verstappen is the class of the field.

[@natthaphonhongcharoen]

While luck may be needed to win from p17. It certainly need more than luck to lose from pole.

[@ivolkan6861]

Again and again

[@Adnan_Atzo]

Actualy talent was starting in pole and finishing 6th.That takes talent for sure.

[@hansmaulwurf8027]

It is mainly hard work Max is putting in to be on the top of his profession. To describe it only as talent doesn’t give him the credit he deserves.

[@DeChiel1st]

Norris was the lucky one because he didn’t end up in the wall. If Verstappen had stayed at 17th position the free tyre change wouldn’t have mattered. So yeah lucky to get a free tyre change but overtaking everyone is pure talent. I think Norris is just jealous he doesn’t have that kind of talent😂

[@andylambertz84]

Excellent Video!😊 The Overtake of Piastri Shows BALLS!!

[@Felazza]

Truth is, if Max was driving the Mclaren he would have been champion before the summer break already

[@iblameruv]

I don't know who's behind this channel , but he's got mad wheel knowledge!

[@muhammadfauzanraditya3835]

"Remember vettel in second half of the season when he can win any gp left? we can do that also " - Andrea Stella

[@mnzulhamsyah]

With current Lando performance? I'm not 100% sure man. Let's see how the last three races unfold!

[@muhammadfauzanraditya3835]

ahahaha i just comment what andrea stella said before the summer break bro

[@footballnerd277]

Verstappen drove one of the best wet weather races in formula 1 history! He set the 9 quickest laps of the entire race. Given the pace he had, and given the mistakes everyone else was making in such treacherous conditions. I’m sure he would have won anyway. Which is remarkable considering he started 17th.

[@piirex_]

@yelistener you dinner Dando Molis in 5 minutes. Wow (Dando Molis its a brazilian pun to Lando Noris, its basicaly "Giving way" or his or that he is wavering, i think) very good!

[@FormulaJuan75]

Title on point

[@SeanyPatrickx]

Said it since Sunday, he had the most open goal to close the gap in the championship to Max and still he found a way to bottle it big time. It also proves that Lando despite having the fastest car since possibly Spain, doesn't have the mentality to fight for world title. Put Max or Lewis in that McLaren, both of them wins the championship.

[@pallyali786]

Max kept it simple and just navigated to victory. Hats off to him. Norris on the other hand is a bottole job. Oscar will be the No 1 driver next year.

[@Duval-In-The-Wall]

Receipts should be kept here, Piastri is miles off Norris half the time

[@ArcadeReplay]

They year Lando almost became a world champion. There is no fate for championship for him in the upcoming years, that was his chance.

[@adamwalpole1180]

Nice Video. Lando is miles behind Max when it comes to talent and skill.

[@DecibelDr]

I'm always surprised how people forget that what they say shows mostly how they are, and not how others are.

[@dutchsailor6620]

That says a lot about the British media..

[@mightyOmouse]

Man, this RB sounds amazing! And yes, F Lando. From one of the most popular and loved drivers on the grid, to one of the most hated atm.

[@Persoc]

lando is not the most popular will see the number of followers of each one we also see it on the gp it does not need security like some may be known at home in England

[@carlosthejedi]

One of the most hated, and heavily abused online

[@mightyOmouse]

@@Persoc I wrote "one of the most popular", not THE most popular

[@abnfalcon3901]

Lando Slander shouldn't be tolerated but rather be ENJOYED and CELEBRATED 🙌

[@dutchsailor6620]

Blando Norisk you mean...

[@Champik333]

Wow. His overtakes in 1st corner are pure magic. Like in another league.

[@JoaoVitor-qy3ze]

Max on the rain frequently makes me ask "why the other drivers don't also take those lines?". After a few races of these thoughts I realized that they simply can't, Max is the only one capable of doing so and he proves it every time it rains.

[@vectro4284]

Some call it talent.

[@sayagubernurtololgabisaker1220]

Sorry Lando, but in terms of driving under rain. Even Ocon still better than you.

[@localhobo5362]

Even? Despite Ocon being a dick and sometime being unlikable personality, he is actually decent driver, and if he was Lando's teammate, for sure it would have been close fight.

[@Lars._]

Ocon won the F3 championship over Verstappen (he did have a Mercedes powered car which was better in comparison to Max’ Volkswagen engine)

[@ardakeremoglu1]

I think he meant that Ocon had an objectively inferior car tbf. Not that he is a wrose driver in terms of pure skill etc.

[@Duval-In-The-Wall]

Ocon 😂😂😂

[@shreeshvijayakumar5887]

Watching this before it gets taken down😂

[@benfrese3573]

Taken down for what?

[@shreeshvijayakumar5887]

@benfrese3573 FOM will have their mental breakdown at times watching guys use their footage.

[@vojtechzejval2679]

It's not just talent. Talent is something inherent. This is very large amount of skill, confidence and experience.

[@eduardoaraujo2]

Another impeccable analysis. Thanks for his quality content.

[@Spankster.]

That overtake on Piastri was absolutely ridiculous 2:22

[@Vali17F1]

hes just not ready to a champion. he doesnt have that winning mentality

[@alvarorey9308]

I've been saying this for the longest time! I feel vindicated, both that Norris completely proved me right, and people agree with me!

[@Calbac-Senbreak]

Makes no difference. No one on the grid is ready for a title against Max

[@7right853]

Champions are born, not made. Max had 4 chances to become a champion and he took advantage of them all. Therefore, for me, he is better than Hamilton, who could be exactly 9 times. Winning 3 races in the best grid car in 15+ races is really funny. Lando is just a stupid person

[@seenic0]

You either got it or you don't

[@dirtaylulu]

@@7right853 exactly, if you swapped Max and Lando cars, Max would have won almost every race since Spain, instead Lando won only 2 of 11

[@nubeng]

people give crap to lewis but at least nowadays he admits that he's not driving his best every time he fkd up

[@Toryou]

"Nothing we did wrong" As they went with all the wrong things they could have done.

[@cheese3enjoyer]

Oscar may not quite have the pace and tire management yet but he has more championship mentality than Norris. Oscar🥵🥵🥵

[@jordanw24]

LOVE IT!! Thank you as always for providing great content, data, and some fun comments :)

[@feisaljauharitufail]

Luck is when skill meets opportunities.

[@BLKBRDD]

Lando Dug himself a deep hole with that stupid comment

[@gunzStatic]

His comment was about red flags and safety cars being a lucky outside factor, which isn't attributed to talent, but to luck. He himself has said that his first win was lucky because of the safety car in Miami. But for some reason all you retards think that Lando said that Max's entire career is luck, when he never said anything like that.

[@FarmYardGaming]

0:43 I have seen faster-moving icebergs than Lando's start here

[@bdc96]

I mean it isn’t THAT bad. You also need to consider that is the much wetter line.

[@unknownname3487]

@@bdc96they won’t listen. Whenever they’re hating on a driver, all logic flies out the window. Plus, they’ll straight up lie. Like this whole fucking video. Lando wasn’t talking about the race, he was talking about the pit strategy, and max was indeed lucky with the red flag.

[@JW-sw6sz]

Lando is jealous that he doesn't have those driver skills 😮😮

[@loeder4048]

Nice video, overtakes from the cockpit view thanks!

[@ThaDutchDK1989]

Lets all just praise Ocon 2 . He was very fast when there was a river on the track ( before the red flag ) but . I know Norris is the biggest “ talent “ 🤣

[@DerpSherman]

@@ThaDutchDK1989 Gasly and Ocon got a good amount of praise for their performance on Brazil,even Max highlighted Esteban's pace in the cooldown room.

[@tails55011]

And that's EXACTLY why Lando can't get WDC. (Unless maFIA give him one, of course)

[@ivolkan6861]

Calling your Rival lucky while he was the one defending you on your first ever Win in Miami few months earlier shows your real face. Lando use to be a fan favourite and everyone cheered for him, but after calling out Lewis and now Max he is disliked by many. Yes the Car is a big part, sometimes you need the Talent too, especially if you lost the Lead on the first Corner AGAIN.

[@richardbell5781]

The same guy who said anyone could win in LH44s MB now he has a fast car and he dosent know how to win 😕

[@KirillBon]

Best video on the topic. Thanks.