UK vs USA Food Fight | 5 Dishes, SAME name VERY Different! ft

It's UK vs USA in today's food fight! Pudding vs Pudding... Jelly vs Jelly... CHIP VS CHIP!! Who will come out on top?
Big thanks to Josh and Max for joining us! Their links are below:
/ @mythicalkitchen
/ @tastinghistory
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[@mythicalkitchen]

The only thing that matters is that 'soggy biscuit' means the same thing in the US and UK 🤝

[@Symian77]

the only thing that matters is that this just about makes up for that Jada bullshit 😂😂😂😂

[@DrShakamoto.]

I don't know if you're talking about what I think you're talking about, if so that is a wild comment 🤣

[@beantheirishsetter]

I never heard that term before (and I've been around long enough at 39), I guess bc I'm female. Googled it. Do not recommend

[@Zelmel]

@@DrShakamoto.It absolutely is, assuming you're thinking about something we're all avoiding elaborating on for reasons that would be obvious.

[@patriciamooney928]

I think Ebbers and Josh match in personality

[@laurendean3534]

As an Australian I want you to know that both options presented as "chips" are in fact chips. In Australia you generally just guess which one someone wants based on context clues.

[@Ac3OfWands]

or the adjective 'hot' in front of it 😂

[@PiousMoltar]

Ah yes, so both the Brits and Americans can agree that you guys are wrong half the time!

[@shessassy]

And New Zealand agrees!

[@Miss_Kisa94]

That's wonderfully confusing and I love it

[@Avarren]

Why does Australia insist on ambiguity?

[@antonpham6446]

Now all we need is for the boys over at Sorted to do a SnackSmash and for the Mythical Kitchen Crew to do a Pass It On.

[@intricateearthling8388]

Pass it on mythical, yes!!

[@tiacho2893]

I think the The "Takeaway Redemption" that birthed Sorted's version of the "Wiggan Slappy" qualifies as an unofficial "Snack Smash". But Josh, Nicole, Trevor, and Vi in a "Pass It On" would be chaos. But so much fun to watch!!!

[@wellox8856]

OMG YESSSS!!! Max, Ben, Josh, Kush and also other Ben?! I would love to see that pass it on or chef off!

[@brazilianseac]

I want the Mythical Kitcheneers to do the burger challenge... but also Pass It On would be amazing. The chaos Josh, Trevor and Lilly can create with the normals would make Ben, V, and Nicole scramble to save the day!

[@antonpham6446]

@@brazilianseac Yes! Forgot about the Sub 10 Min Burger challenge. Imagine the CHAOS!

[@beccay4750]

If you tell a room full of children that they are getting cupcakes & then give them bran muffins your going to find out real quick they should not be called cupcakes 😂

[@CrimsonGryphon45]

😂

[@WhoniverseReview]

Muffins are to cupcakes as crackers are to cookies. If you told someone that you had cookies and gave them English tea biscuits, they would not be happy.

[@MossyMozart]

And muffins are so much greasier than the cake within a cupcake. (I don't particularly like muffins for that reason.)

[@CrimsonGryphon45]

@@MossyMozart Greasy? I don't recall ever hearing that before. Maybe the pan was over greased?

[@deviantexposure]

Muffins typically don't have anywhere near the sugar count of a cupcake. They're more akin to a pumpkin loaf, or a raisin loaf... Then a cupcake. And muffins are typically served naked on top. No frosting.

[@peterzerfass4609]

Josh, Ben and Max in one video? Now that's some truly mythical sorted history right there. Epic!

[@TheCatWitch63]

We want more of that!!

[@GreenyWolf]

Came here to say the same thing :D 3 times the content in one video - efficient entertainment! :D

[@mrsgollum]

If you got Babish you would have the Avengers of food youtubers

[@Finwolven]

Weird pick-me-up for this week, but I'm all for it!

[@LemurDreamer87]

My three favorite cooking channels on KZbin, all crossing over? YES PLEASE.

[@SortedFood]

We're here for it!

[@tiacho2893]

Come for the cooking and food info. But come back for the comedy! Every time I see Max, I flashback to him demonstrating the structural integrity of hard tack or naval biscuit.

[@JRC2397]

I was about to comment this as soon as I heard the 3rd one but ya beat me to it! :D

[@grabtharshammer2085]

Dude, same! These are my three mains and I was excited at the thumbnail and so happy when I saw Max

[@MrNathansdad]

When Ben mentioned that their navy survived on biscuits, I was expecting the insert of Max tapping his hardtack

[@E-A-Z-Y]

Love this crossover, I remember Josh when he was the new guy on set for GMM, lifting them out of the ‘boiled for safety’ era. He’s really done well for himself, great guy.

[@winie5665]

Disagree with Josh’s argument that muffins and cupcakes are the same thing! As someone who loves muffins but for years kept ending up with cupcakes, there’s a difference in the batter between a muffin and cupcake, cupcake batter is smoother and lighter, not lumpy and muffin batter is lumpy and more dense because you need the addition of things like buttermilk or oats to give it more heft!

[@steelsquire2153]

Cupcakes are also fluffier, and softer in texture as a muffin isn’t sure you can throw blueberries, or strawberry slices, or what have you into a cupcake, but it doesn’t change the fact. A muffin with said additions is just called a blueberry muffin, or strawberry muffin. Plus cupcakes are a lot sweeter than muffins, and taste better with icing. Muffins are often drier than a cupcake.

[@winie5665]

@@steelsquire2153 agreed!

[@sherryford667]

The process for combining the ingredients is different between cupcakes and muffins resulting in a different texture, mouth feel and, therefore, taste between the two. Cupcakes are also sweeter and usually frosted. The difference in stereotypical muffins and cupcakes is pronounced, and I am surprised the American chef did not appreciate the differences.

[@Redh3adTheRedFox]

His argument made no sense. Cupcakes are literally just mini cakes, cup sized.

[@Sarah-with-an-H]

But a chocolate chocolate chip muffin os indeed a cupcake

[@Lexito510]

It’s so crazy seeing all three of you guys collab. I’ve been watching sorted, mythical, and tasting history for years. My world’s literally colliding right now 😂😂😂

[@bunniprxncess6780]

The multiverse of crazy food colliding!

[@lorie76yt]

The best “foodie” mash up in my KZbin universe :)

[@BIGBANGvip5673]

I actually screamed😂

[@TastingHistory]

I stand by all of my carefully considered decisions. 😂

[@AndrewMiesem]

You're well-versed in history. You should know!

[@theralenkaliber158]

I agree so much with the 'chips'. It needed to be said. Brittish soggy fries are horrible :D

[@anniebell6846]

I politely disagree on the chip debate

[@DarthSmirnoff]

Border security is going to have some questions for you the next time you try and get back into America. :P

[@Getpojke]

They/you missed a trick! Biscuits/Hardtack were mentioned & there was no clip of you banging two together! I'm shocked. 😁

[@Lumaweh]

Josh should have expanded more on the different methods of making jelly, jam, preservatives, marmalades, etc. I think having a more diverse naming for them, given their different uses and tastes, would have won him the round similar to how he got the point for pudding.

[@slicedtoad]

Yeah, he was really bad at arguing his side.

[@sarahdanielson627]

In addition, both presented had exactly the same texture.

[@lxxvx]

All the young kids are infatuated with the English these days, Josh probably let him win so it wouldn't be "rude," he didn't put half his chaos power level 9000 in on this one.

[@ErikaaMartinez]

Thank you! That drove me nuts!

[@bob_._.]

He didn't strike me as being all that knowledgeable overall, so I have to doubt he's familiar with all that.

[@XenFPV]

We call jam with the fruit taken out jelly too, it's just not as popular here. Redcurrant jelly, crabapple jelly, and rowan jelly are all somewhat popular. These are used generally as a condiment for meats, especially lamb and game, rather than spread on bread.

[@rosemarielee7775]

Bramble and raspberry jellies are popular too.

[@carrie5490]

Love Apple and mint jelly with lamb

[@Beacuzz]

Jelly is a technical term.

[@meat_mech_jellyfish]

What we all need is a pass it on with the mythical kitchen team. You know you want it.

[@xBrokenMirror2010x]

The pure chaos that Josh would create would be incredible. No one would have any idea how to pick up after him lol.

[@Diatain]

That would be absolutely amazing! Josh has just the right energy for Pass It On!

[@zachbrunner7098]

that would be incredible

[@morganalori]

Duuuude!!! yaaaaassssss

[@groofay]

And don't forget a sub 10-minute burger.

[@mcbbygrl]

We need a Chef vs. Chef battle between Josh and Ebbers! That would be AMAZING!!

[@morganalori]

lol, it'd be fun to see Josh against the Sorted normies :D can't you just see the hijinks that would ensue?

[@GuessImNotClever]

Fuck yeah.

[@ItsDambaloo]

a Kush vs. Josh battle would be utter chaos, and I'm ALL FOR IT!! XD

[@jenniferjiang4445]

Yes

[@beowulfthecat5669]

Kush v Josh for max chaos

[@alexdavis5766]

A Max Miller Sorted food video is the cross over I never knew I needed but so hear for it! Love the history you learn on his channel.

[@SortedFood]

Ditto! A super interesting and lovely guy.

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

​@@SortedFoodYou guys are awesome 😊😊😊❤❤❤❤

[@anumeon]

A mythical Max Miller Sorted food video even. :)

[@AuskaDezjArdamaath]

*here

[@tiacho2893]

I didn't expect this and it was so fun to watch!!!

[@hollyheikkinen4698]

5:35 As a 52 year old Minnesotan, I can confirm that we have a wide range of recipes called "salads" 😂 - especially if you are at a potluck! Some "salads" have lettuce, some have other veggies, some have fruit (my mom had one that required peeled grapes & she insisted you peel them), some have Jell-O/gelatin, some have candy bars, some have mayonnaise & others whipped cream, etc. My mom was a home economics major in college & I have her 1950s textbooks & cookbooks - there's a lot of recipes that have geletin in them - sweet & savory! Oh, we also call casseroles "hotdish" & carbonated soda is called "pop" here.

[@loganshaw4527]

I do love me a taco salad more then a pasta salad or even a potato salad they are unnecessary complex. Just give me meat, cheese, and a house salad on top.

[@davedove67]

And don't forget things like ham salad and tuna salad.

[@KitsuneRisu00]

Hey Sorted, just want to say that this is the crossover we both needed AND wanted. Now, we would love for the Sorted Crew to do a Food Crimes, Impostor Chef or Food Battle with Mythical or something, anything, where Josh gets to show you his true insanity and make everyone either die barfing or be incredibly impressed at his ability to make gold out of 7-11.

[@mindom]

We need a cookoff.

[@littleraeofsunshine]

I love that American English encapsulates just how much we eat by having so many specific names for specific products vs the wide-ranging use of names in British food products.

[@coreygardner1371]

Grabbing a pie means very different things... In the USA, you grab pizza. In the UK, Australia and NZ grabbing a pie, means grabbing a pie usually a meat filled pastry cooked in a pie dish..

[@littleraeofsunshine]

@@coreygardner1371 Um, to some people yes. But to a large portion of Americans, "pie" is specifically that sweet thing we eat at the holidays; pizza pie is context.

[@Andrew-it7fb]

​@coreygardner1371 I'm American and to me pie can be a dessert or a savory meat dish such as chicken pot pie or Shepard's pie. I don't know anyone who refers to pizza as pie.

[@OneRandomVictory]

@@coreygardner1371 The only pizza I consider a pie is Chicago deep dish. Also pie can be savory but the majority of the time it'll be a sweet thing in the US.

[@coreygardner1371]

@@Andrew-it7fb I may watch too much TV...

[@jaywalkersunite]

Having Max show up as a judge was an incredibly welcome surprise! More with him, please.

[@cbbgeflt]

defiantly! max is a boss

[@erinathanassiou617]

loved seeing some interesting expressive faces from him that I haven't seen on his own channel

[@PaendaTube]

His takes kinda sucked

[@TzOn79]

why?

[@mlehook4859]

Love Max Miller! Hope to see him in more places.

[@Charlee1776]

I feel like the American side got very short changed here 😆 For the biscuits, Americans call them biscuits because they are the "quick breads" that evolved out of the hard tac (sp) they brought over from the UK (that the one gentleman pointed out was called biscuits) with them and eventually added lard etc to As for the Jello/Jelly, we actually call it "gelatin" here if using proper terms but in common terms we call it Jello due to the brand being a household name for so many years. Just 2 things I would have liked to see put out there for info if nothing else.

[@NoahWei42]

Honestly, the American had no business doing this. Barely holding back a sneer every time he has to talk about his own people or our food. Ignorance and contempt exuding from every pore.

[@brettbuck7362]

@@NoahWei42 We don't have contempt, we find you guys amusingly backwards. Get with the program...

[@NoahWei42]

@@brettbuck7362 going to allow you some time to work on your reading comprehension skills.

[@joeshort6653]

To be fair if you took grape jelly and formed it a mold it would be the same thing as the uk version except grape flavored

[@joeshort6653]

Nope cupcakes are not muffins

[@JackHortonFilms]

Get Max Miller in the studio please! Would be great to do a historical cookbook video with him

[@jpopphan]

OMG yes! I’d love to see Max walk the normals through an ancient recipe!

[@divab63]

2nd this! Especially one of the really olde ones!

[@DG-]

I want to see Max subjected to the 10 Minute Burger Challenge. Get him on the leader board.

[@Godwilla39]

Disagree with Josh re: muffins. Yes, they are “cakey” but from a methodological standpoint they are totally different from cakes. In a muffin, the sugar gets mixed with the wet ingredients and the butter gets cut into the dry. In a cake, the sugar and butter are creamed together

[@AjaxWolfie]

I agree completly

[@averyeml]

Max has a slightly different energy when he isn’t Tasting History and I am LIVING FOR IT, more of Max with Mythical PLEASE

[@DScritchy]

He’s like kinda sexy here no? I was like, Daaamn!

[@LordDragox412]

@@DScritchy Someone wants a taste of Tasting History, eh?

[@j.d.4697]

He is awesome..

[@tymonritco8578]

Mythical Max History….. thinking it would be an amazing experience. Kinda like the Horrible Histories

[@kiwikemist]

​@@LordDragox412I think we all do! 😂😂😂

[@anti-canon9277]

Okay this is like my dream video. I love all three of these guys, watch everything they put out. I haven't even started watching yet and this is already my favorite video this year.

[@hevytimes]

Three Food Nerds given free reign. I am BEYOND blessed with episode. I would love to see this as a series. Ben chatting with a local nerd, talking regional differences in food and naming! Also, final debate, brits have rice pudding. Which is american style.

[@Daffodil_filled_days]

Whoever thought putting Ben and Josh in the same space is both brilliant and absolutely insane!!

[@abominablyawsm]

And with Max to mediate!

[@LivingWithTheCoopers]

I'm so glad these crossovers are still happening with Sorted and Mythical. Josh and Ben are the complete antithesis of each other, but that works so, so well.

[@justdrop]

Conversationally both are extremely respectful of their company and they'd be capable of holding conversations with most anybody

[@UglySephie]

I had no clue there were old ones! Thanks for the heads up!

[@erica9443]

I watched this around when it first came out as a fan of Tasting History but having only watched some of Mythical Kitchen and never having heard of Sorted Food. Now I've watched a lot more of both and have come back to get the full experience. This video is wonderful!!!

[@andrester88]

Josh has finally worthy contenders for his weird and vast array of food knowledge

[@jamesjohnson-o7k]

Would love to see an episode with max deciding the menu for breakfast, lunch and dinner from UK and US history and having Josh cook the UK and Ben cooking the Us. Then a taste test with some one from the UK and US. That would be great to see how each Chef cooks the others food.

[@elainelouve]

As a Finn I agree, pudding (vanukas) is the sweet dessert, whereas black pudding is palttu or veripalttu.x) Palttu is nowadays only used for this particular food. While visiting Britain, one of our hosts tried to freak us out by asking at breakfast what we think is in the black pudding that we were eating. My friend casually replied: "I suppose blood".

[@kessenichp]

A great episode! Loved the calab, and the history lesson was fantastic.

[@AkrasieI]

This is the mashup the internet needs. I think having Josh in the Kitchen with the normals for a Pass it on Challenge would be absolute peak chaos, and I am salivating at just the idea of it.

[@therevolutionwillbecaffeinated]

Yes I would watch the heck out of this

[@SortedFood]

This would be everything huh?

[@OnkelHucke]

@@SortedFoodGordon Ramsay would be a great addition to Josh and the normals. A pass it on with a vengeance. 🤯

[@ercedwrds]

Josh on the 10 minute burger challenge would be so fun. Maybe only Matty Matheson would be more chaotic.

[@intricateearthling8388]

You got the power, make it happen ;) @@SortedFood

[@chase5436]

I love when random creators I watch somehow end up together doing a collab. Max and Josh in the same place! Imagine all the random historical knowledge just being thrown around in that room.

[@TotallyCluelessGamer]

As a fun bit of linguistic history. The reason that Cookie is such a broadly used term to describe basically any small sugary baked good in the US comes down to English and Dutch mixing in the Pennsylvania/New Jersey/New York area, as the Dutch word for the food was "Koekje" which English colonists adopted into "Cookie" in the 1700s.

[@MusicismoreImportant]

Bourbon biscuits are great Should be in USA too

[@darcyjorgensen5808]

AMERICAN BISCUITS ARE NOT SCONES. Americans call scones…scones.

[@januzzell8631]

How lovely to see Max 'Tasting History' Miller as the judge - LOVE his channel - never miss a video :D

[@jaydenbunce7382]

as an Aussie, watching them argue over which variation of fried potato is a chip is great (both of them are chips here)

[@vanessagoddess1]

yep, and we differentiate them by heat (i.e. hot chip)

[@williamhardee8863]

@@vanessagoddess1So you wouldn’t call a spicy chip a hot chip?

[@tubamustafabingol2588]

​@@williamhardee88635 they would call it a spicy chip

[@battlestarkoala]

I had an American client once who got so angry at me for calling something a chip - he told me that I had to call them fries and I was like - so you guys say fish and fries not fish and chips? He said that was the only exception :P

[@williamhardee8863]

@@battlestarkoala We don’t call it Fish and Chips everytime we have Fish with fries though. We only call it that when we’re referencing the Brits. Most people would just say I got fish with a side of fries, because you usually have multiple options for sides.

[@jonasholm-mw5bn]

Max Miller suddenly showing up was such a pleasant surprise. A crossover of all of my favorite food channels

[@WaltzingAustralia]

Can't believe Max missed an opportunity to talk about the history of biscuits in the U.S. -- didn't start with fast food places.

[@SkepticalCaveman]

In Sweden we have "blodpudding" (as we call it here) too, cupcakes are called "muffins", biscuits on the left are called "kex" here, thin, fried potatoes are called "chips" fries we call "pommes frites" or "strips". We call jam "sylt" and jelly/jello we call gelé.

[@annasolovyeva1013]

In Russia, muffins are "kex"

[@gudmundur-heimisson]

Biscuits are also called "kex" in Icelandic, it comes from the English word "cakes" (the Swedish one does too). We have a different word for cookies, those are called smákökur (small cakes). We call blood sausages blóðmör (bloodfat), and pudding is búðingur (from the French boudain as well).

[@joxerthemighty9148]

well that's certainly one way to sort them out. but kex is almost kek that people online were using as a replacement for lol for a bit.

[@angietyndall7337]

Pomme frites as in fried apples, because pomme de terre is a potato in French as I learned it. So why not frit de Pomme de Terre ?

[@jonc4403]

@@angietyndall7337 I don't know, but now I'm craving a big old mess of fried apples.

[@justsomegothgirl]

5:40 His face 😂 the genuine confusion/horror when Josh says "mayonnaise" had me laughing hysterically. (I am an American)

[@hannahk1306]

I'm still perplexed at this - jelly and mayonnaise just don't go together! I think cool whip is a sort of fake cream, so I kind of get that one but definitely not mayonnaise. In the UK we just have jelly and ice cream (for birthday parties), unless it's school dinners then they serve individual portions with squirty cream and a chocolate button on top (pre-prepped).

[@Nifirin]

@@hannahk1306 Jello salad is a bit of a historical dish at this point. Only the older generations really make it anymore. Predominantly in the Midwest region. The history is that when shelf safe instant jelly first came out on the market as Jell-O, it wasn't that popular. Eventually the inventor sold the production to a food company that ran a massive advertising campaign. They mainly targeted mothers and advertised it as a fun snack or dessert for the kids. Then some time after that success and all families were eating Jell-O, the company tried to recreate the success by inventing recipes that turned the dish into a side (or possibly even a main), rather than a dessert or snack. And well... the food company had a bunch of other products it also wanted to sell, so you get stuff in the recipes like Cool Whip, mayonnaise, tuna, cottage cheese, peas, marshmallows, etc... This died out of popularity in the late 60's with the rise of the women's movement. It is largely said that when more women began working, they no longer had time to make these abominations, rather than just making Jell-O straight from the box.

[@TerraHv1]

I'm from the US and I've never heard of putting mayo and jello together. That just sounds awful.

[@decimation9780]

@@TerraHv1Check out Dylan Hollis, he has a bunch of shorts on "foods" like that. Should give you an idea of what fever dream brought about that abomination.

[@Mosie926]

As an American I also had a look of horror on my face. Who thought to put Jello and mayo together, does it make it a savory dish?

[@peterrealar2.067]

The paint chip argument was FREAKING HILARIOUS.

[@loganshaw4527]

Had to bring in the wood chip argument to counter it.

[@jetfowl]

"I want pudding..." "Oscar Meyer or Ballpark?"

[@loganshaw4527]

Or fig or giant can of pudding?

[@Loreurka]

As a belgian, the fact that he said « BELGIAN Frites » and not french fries made me so happy 😂

[@badboycooking]

Shoutout to the BELGIANS

[@ektran4205]

fritten/frites

[@Ruthbaby175]

Belgian frites are the best. I used to be amazed toppings were so diverse because the frites are so perfect and delicious they need no ketchup or mayonnaise.

[@loganshaw4527]

Chips and frites/fries have nothing in common if a fry is like that chip throw it away.

[@velvetunderpants44]

I heard they were called French fries by G.I.s stationed in Belgium with a very poor sense of geography

[@TheBreadthatcausedLesMis]

This just makes me want a proper Max Miller/Sorted food history collab.

[@bjdefilippo447]

💯

[@meacadwell]

Agreed!

[@rebeccah3091]

it's so neat being Canadian watching these . We are literally a mix of both.

[@irdairda514]

same here in New Zealand

[@Idiomatick]

Yeah, Canadians would win every round in this.

[@ryleighs9575]

Yeah I've been feeling that through this whole video lol. We exist in between them culturally lol

[@Ambziie]

I live in Canada but am from Australia. Canada definitely leans more toward the US side than the UK side.

[@charlottenewhook]

@@Ambziiedepends on where in canada you are and what generation you’re from, where i am in NL chips, puddings, biscuits, muffins and jelly are all used to refer to either of the products shown by both sides.

[@jeanjaz]

My mom used to make the best bread pudding to use up old bread that was getting dry and it wasn't dairy or thickened with corn starch or gelatin. It was more like a soft cake. It had cinnamon, vanilla, and other spices, and sometimes raisins. There were soda biscuits in the U.S. long before fast food. The U.S. used to have "gelled" dishes that were savory. I remember having a gelled carrot salad when I was young. Savory gelled dishes just went out of fashion and now people don't even like the sound of them. We still see "artifacts" from those days when you see pans formed to look like fish. I've seen them used as decorations now.

[@gln9068]

:) you made me smile, my Nanna used to make 'Bread and Butter pudding', buttered bread, with which ever jam or marmalade that needed to be used up, or sometimes just sugar and cinnamon, with eggs and milk mixed and poured over, then baked until set, delicious! And she used to make her own 'Pork Brawn', a jellied meat mix with herbs and spices and the bone broth used to 'gel' it all together in a "Brawn Press' :) also delicious, and both saved so much food from being wasted, as well as being cheap too

[@North_West1]

Mmmmmh a good bread pudding

[@suran396]

As for the gelatin dishes, they were very popular in the, I believe, 60's & 70's. Started falling out of favor in the 80's and thank goodness! Why ruin perfectly good jello by add weird ingredients! The worst in my opinion was bananas. They were all bad, but bananas in jello? Just .... no! Now, Jello Cake is awesome!!!!!

[@j.d.e.7416]

I inherited my grandmother's old Searchlight cookbook from the 1930s and it's got a whole section how how to make various cornstarch puddings from scratch. They are specifically designated as cornstarch puddings. No boxes from the Jell-O company needed. Best part, though, is all her handwritten notes in the margins. So I know which cake was my aunt's wedding cake, what recipe grandma used to make the doughnuts we ate, etc.

[@HiddenGhul]

Max was a shocking appearance. Somehow never thought these people would cross over

[@AriesTheUmpteenth]

Let's hope he sticks around for long enough so we'll see a 'History of the UK vs US nosh', in which he'll have to do a recap of this episode ;3

[@skipperdani]

Max has been on A Hot Dog is a Sandwich before. It’s Ben that was the surprise for me!

[@samharper5881]

One of the most delightful surprises I've ever seen on KZbin. I've been watching Max for years; he's a lovely fellow.

[@aechtrob4775]

Jelly in the UK is ALSO what was described from the US (strained fruit juice, thickened like jam, but without the fruit included). Bramble Jelly and Hedgerow Jelly are very much a British thing. Jams in the UK are not strained, and contain solid fruit matter. Jelly is the same as in the US, but in the UK Is ALSO a set gelatin.

[@nathan87]

...is the correct answer. I'm not mad that you didn't know this, Ben, I'm just disappointed.

[@adriannegentleman83]

yes and it's the same in New Zeland, My mum used to make crab apple jelly, it was soo good

[@bjdefilippo447]

I remember from childhood a very thick fruity gelatin sweet that I got in England. Don't remember what it was called, but the black currant flavor was my favorite. I'd probably order some today if I could remember what it was called!

[@bladepanthera]

Quince jelly is another :D

[@jenniferleecorfield7571]

I came here to say the exact same thing. There's also red currant jelly. Basically any jam that is strained to remove the fibre and seeds is then referred to as a jelly.

[@FinalDragoon63]

I only recently discovered Mythial Kithen and Josh is just such a great intelligent down to earth dude who wears a facade of a chaos gremlin and Max is one of my favorite educational food youtubers and posibly the best there is. Seeing them next to the brilliance of Ebbers is such an awesome combonation. Just thee incredibly intelligent and talented chefs in the same room. I would love to see more them, perhaps educating the normal and by extention us, the viewers.

[@TheLizzerazu]

Down to earth?? Depends on what that means. He is usually bouncing around on all 4 walls ;-)

[@oldbutnotdead1]

Three of my favorite food channels, together! Be still my beating heart!

[@tsumichama]

I can just picture Josh putting tea in the microwave with a biscuit already in it (And it's an American biscuit too 😂)

[@williamhardee8863]

You sir sound like you’ve never had a Milano cookie from Pepperidge Farm.

[@dirtyfiendswithneedles3111]

@@williamhardee8863Pepperidge Farms Remembers

[@NorthernWayfarer-Alice]

interesting fact though, the Americans invented the teabag. Growing up, my parents refused to accept a cup of tea that was made with teabags, it had to be loose tea in a pot.

[@masada2828]

Use an electric jug/kettle to boil water!

[@whiteshoos]

I love watching Ben nerding out with someone who can keep up! I want more of that! ❤

[@NoxNyx666]

Not only is it a crossover with Mythical Kitchen it’s also a crossover with Max Miller and this is what I needed today. Thank you.

[@Super_Nope_13]

"Give me the meat jelly!" Made me snort laugh

[@noneofyourbusiness7094]

Max and Ben need to make a dish together out of one of the oldest cookbooks. Or make the same dish from different ancient cookbooks to see how both dishes are similar or different.

[@rainnydays]

Absolutely

[@SleeeperAgent]

Really loved to see Max in this one and hear that you're planning more videos with him ❤ When you explained the premise of the video I literally thought to myself "this would've been perfect to have Max Miller as a guest"... and the next moment you introduced him 😄

[@Magnum_Express]

I watch a lot of Townsends youtube content and he cooks early American pudding, its usually a doughy ball cooked in a cloth and boiled. I can see the transition between British pudding and American puddings in those recipes. Its a bread based dessert, but intentionally made to be damp and sweet.

[@MoniqueAO888]

So nice that you did a video together with Max Miller !!! 'Tasting History' is one of my favorite channels on KZbin as well as 'Sorted Food' of course. 🙂 Pudding in Germany is the same as Josh showed...years ago, when I learned about pudding in the UK, I was really surprised.

[@cerberuszj33]

FINALLY!!! The international crossover event our lives as a whole NEEDED. Sorted and Mythical, a match made in delicious heaven.

[@britt3077]

Max and Ebbers in one video? And a bunch of geeky food history? This is the combination I never knew I needed, and I can't wait to see more!

[@TzOn79]

naaaah

[@sarahmckinlay4400]

So excited to see Max & Sorted together. Will he count as a Chef or a normal?

[@sirBrouwer]

Does he have a culinary diploma on his name? If they do he is a chef. otherwise he can only be a cook.

[@Hybris51129]

Historian.

[@maruree]

Based on his Wikipedia page I'd say he's what KZbin likes to call a 'home cook' (and also a completely amazing human being, I love him)

[@williamkarafa5094]

Very funny and I learned from the video. Great job!

[@hannahtaylor8808]

I can’t like this crossover enough!! I have been waiting and hoping for a Mythical/Sorted mashup. Bonus to see Tasting History!!

[@drewsivermitus]

The FACT that Ben took a Garibaldi biscuit into that fight is absolutely amazing. My favourite biscuit for sure

[@stephenpalmer9375]

I assume he was limited to whatever was available in the British Food aisle of the local Supermarket :)

[@ChrisKavanagh11]

The first food? The darker ones were bourbons and the lighter ones were custard creams

[@thegrinderman1090]

@@ChrisKavanagh11 3:01 Garibaldis closest to the camera

[@Anna_TravelsByRail]

This video basically sums up what it’s like to learn to speak English as a non-native speaker and learning half of your vocabulary from tv when you watch shows from the UK, USA and Australia. 😂

[@stiffk666]

I'm always amazed when people tell me they did that. A Serbian guy I gamed with learned English just from films. I've tried a few times to pick up languages, mostly German and Spanish, from TV and found it impossible. So although we're very confusing, sorry, you're incredibly wondrous. UK is very poor at making the effort to converse with the rest of the non English speaking world.

[@Chooibah]

​@@stiffk666 As an English person, I think we sometimes get an unfair reputation when it comes to languages spoken. Think about it this way: if you learn English, you can travel to almost any corner of the world. Yet, even though I speak some Italian, my wife speaks French and German, and I have friends who speak Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, and so on, we all struggle to communicate in 98% of places we visit. There are lots of people that don't bother learning much at all, and it's due to not having any necessity to do so. So, I wouldn't say our effort is poor, if the global lingua franca was Serbian, I reckon I'd be speaking Serbian and perhaps you wouldn't have attempted to learn English :)

[@LemonChick]

@@stiffk666- the 'problem' is we in the UK already speak the language most learn to converse across all the non-English, as a native language, world. While everyone else just has to learn their own language as a child and then English, both languages all around them, native English speakers do what? Learn French and Chinese and Russian and Italian and Spanish and Polish and Japanese and Urdu etc etc etc erc, hardly ever getting a chance to practice in real life, when all non-English speakers need to do is learn one language - English - which nowadays is pretty universal. If you are a native English speaker and want to learn a 2nd language, you are probably better off spending your time tackling a programming language. More useful and more opportunities to practice it.

[@stiffk666]

That's it exactly. So everyone else should just speak English.

[@lukassanting7506]

As an Irishman there are all four: Fries, Chips, Wedges and Crisps. Fries (thin cut), chips (British style, most popular here, a little thicker) and wedges (extra thick. Difference between these is just the amount of potato inside them. Then the flavoured crispy fried potato slices in a bag are called Crisps.

[@erinnyren5564]

Oh my gosh, Max Miller AND a call out to Minnesota (for our strange salad traditions)?! Best video ever!!

[@SortedFood]

Glad you've enjoyed it :)

[@arendjenabbe]

As an English student, I already know that Ben is probably gonna win this because a lot of words in English concerning foods are cognates with other languages, so Ebbers will always have a better historical point

[@TheKirbyT]

You underestimate Josh's knowledge of food history

[@ChrisParkerstudios]

History is full of mistakes, so sure.

[@rohandeuskar5750]

@@TheKirbyT You should've said, you underestimate Josh's knowledge of 'MURICA

[@maromania7]

Yeah, Ben had a bit of an advantage with the judge being a historian XD

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

THIS IS A DREAM COME TRUE GUYS! Tasting history and mythical kitchen are my top food channela along with you guys! Im Over the moon right now! Love you all! Huge fan of all of you!😊😊😊😊😊😅😊

[@SortedFood]

Love to hear it! enjoy the episode 😃

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

​@@SortedFoodi always do 😊😊😊

[@bonnieirwin1621]

I thought boudan...the blood sausage was a creole thing! I stand corrected!! My sister has been living in London for 39 years and when we visit her, we compare words and foods. Funny!!

[@DamienMackay]

Josh and Ben are the biggest food nerds on KZbin and the bringing together of Sorted Food and Mythical Kitchen makes this particular food nerd so happy!!

[@DarkElfofVulcan]

This is such a fun concept! I did not see Max Miller coming, but am SO glad he was dragged into this nonsense.

[@SortedFood]

100%! More videos with Max to come soon.

[@AWest-en5ee]

Oh, great seeing Max Miller in this, the guy has the most interesting food history lessons on KZbin!

[@FutureCommentary1]

I burst out laughing at 14:50. The English can argue among themselves as to which is pudding. They didn't need Americans in that argument 😂.

[@Kimo0tJJ]

When this man blatantly stated he was going to microwave his tea I grabbed my chest in shock. And I am not even British!!!

[@DN-sy6xx]

Yeah that's just totally wrong, to make Tea you should either boil an electric kettle, or put a tea pot on the hob and boil the water, and then add tea leaves or bags and steep the tea in the pot

[@Kenvie2000]

@@DN-sy6xx He was saying that to pull your leg. Most Americans would use a kettle/teapot (or unfortunately many might just not drink tea at all).

[@Tensen01]

@@Kenvie2000 No, I think most of us use the Microwave. There's literally nothing wrong with it and it takes a fraction of the time as it takes to boil a kettle/teapot, and you only have to do enough for a single cup if you want to.

[@Kenvie2000]

@@Tensen01 No, I think most Americans just don't drink tea.

[@jimskywaker4345]

@@DN-sy6xx I don't want to make an entire pot, I only want one cup of tea in the morning.

[@InCardiaSnoop]

I already love this just because of who is involved. I love those two teams together. More of it please.

[@BakingHimani]

I legitimately squealed in delight at Max Miller, I LOVE him ❤❤❤ the crossover I didn’t know I needed

[@alannahllama]

I'm currently sat watching this ...on a Friday while eating chips from the chip shops. I felt to need to share that 😅

[@teatime2936]

I love that both chefs have such great knowledge! Josh has more historical facts and Ben more with historical cooking, love it!

[@laprimaverrra]

What an unexpectedly awesome combination - Ben, Josh and Max. I expected more Bennuendos and chaos, but I guess Max managed to keep Ben and Josh in line.

[@cryogenical_]

Love seeing Max on here! I urge everyone to watch his extensive history on puddings, it's incredibly interesting.

[@akaLisette]

Ben, Josh AND Max in one video? This is perfection. Pure perfection.

[@JeffKelly03]

It was fantastic seeing Josh on the channel, though I can't help but wish it had been in some sort of a cooking battle or a Pass It On, because I need to see Ebbers try to contend with Josh, the human ball of chaos, in that sort of situation.

[@monicareno4088]

I love how Ben is so knowledgeable about so many things pertaining to food and history. I’ve learned so much since beginning to watch this channel. Each video is so fun and keeps a person’s interest with the antics as well. Great channel and great crew. 😊

[@AllWIllFall2Me]

As a small corollary to that, it is worth remembering that Ben's knowledge is localized and limited to his expertise. For instance, biscuit does not come from the Italian, it comes from the French. (Though, to be fair, both come from the Latin) .There's a reason there's a u in the word, not an O. And Biscuits are actually an interesting example because, like a lot of strange Americanisms, they're technically Britain's fault: the American "biscuit" is jsut a copy and iteration upon biscuits popular in Guernsey and Scotland around the time of the American revolution. Since we had more cultural exchange with Britain's chief shipping rival of the era, the Ducth, we also became more familiar with their koekjes, or "cookies". It's the British who decided that scones don't count as biscuits later. (Earlier biscuits WERE cooked and then dried out in the oven, in order to more readily absorb butter or gravy, hence the other reason they retained the "twice cooked" named, but as baking powder and soda were invented, they became much softer.)

[@knighteye33]

I believe the American "biscuit" might be related to the Dutch food 'beschuit', or ship's biscuits (basically hardtack) that the Dutch East India Company packed for food on long sea voyages!

[@Empress_Lisanne]

Also, the American "cookie" is most likely from the Dutch "koekje" which in itself probably comes from the German "Kuche" (which is cake, not a biscuit)

[@phoebethefey]

I disagree that biscuit is an umbrella term that encompasses cookies in the UK. I would argue that cookie is used as an umbrella term that encompasses British biscuits, but that Brits categorise cookies and biscuits as entirely different confections. From a Brit that lives with American :)

[@carrie5490]

Nah, cookies are a type of biscuit. 🍪 it’s a word only used for the chocolate chip large American style biscuit that we do think of as different to the rest of the biscuits, agreed. But it’s still all under the term biscuit. They all live in the biscuit isle of the shop

[@vercogaming3997]

Adding Max and Josh in this made it perfect. Both are phenomenal and although Josh makes some weird crap for Rhett and Link, he is very well versed in the kitchen.

[@hellfirehatter5243]

I think his culinary skills and abilities are actually what lead to most of those weird creations. The guy is passionate about food.

[@vercogaming3997]

@@hellfirehatter5243 oh he is for sure and my wife and I love Mythical Kitchen for a reason. We have been watching GMM for years and the food shows went to another level when Josh joined.

[@thatgunskid]

I literally stopped everything I was doing to watch this, Ben and Josh play off of each other extremely well comedically

[@irkuzki]

All my favorite foodie channels in one video? Perfection.

[@toriemiesko626]

The jell-o is actually gelatin which could be called jelly for short, but the grape jelly is actually marketed as jelly hence is therefore the actual jelly, USA 😂

[@DavidJones-gw8go]

As an an American southerner, I need to say; do not let the man from Minnesota rep biscuits! But yeah, great and funny video, guys. Hopefully more intercontinental colabs in the future.

[@cynsi7604]

AMEN. ✌🏻

[@thenovicenovelist]

I read that the breakfast dish we call biscuits and gravy was supposedly invented in the southern Appalachian region of the US. American biscuits are quite important to southern culture. We have them for various meals.

[@Blayda1]

Over here in the UK we call them Dumplings ( not like chinese ) , they are very nice with a good thick gravy and minced mutton. Thumbs up for Biscuits/Dumplings and gravy ( our dumplings are made with suet ,,, different but used in the same way ).

[@Lollylobacres]

Right! And of course that looked like something out of a pop can and bake, not even a homemade biscuit. I mean every Southerner is screaming that is not a proper biscuit.

[@Lollylobacres]

@@Blayda1 Dumplings in the south are similar to a biscuit cooked in broth, again, very good, but not what you see in this video

[@praetorxxx2004]

Amazing show! thank you for bringing Max Miller into your show guys! keep up the good work, we love all of you!

[@ndawgtkd]

So happy to see Sorted and Max collaborating. Love both your channels.

[@BBoxCleaner]

8:42 Did someone order a cannon, ‘cause I think some shots were just fired! 🤣🤣🤣

[@randypowers3904]

I love how josh has this constant flow between being goofy Josh and Mythical Chef Josh

[@SpinX522]

And to correct Josh those aren’t even potato wedges, I’ve had potato wedges before and they didn’t flop around like that. The closest thing I could compare those British “chips” to are steak fries which are definitely the worst form of fried potatoes as they do tend to be soggy like that.

[@loganshaw4527]

Throw fries away if they get like that they are so saggy you could throw it in a stew or crockpot as you sever it.

[@Blcktear]

This is the collab I've been dying for ❤ I love how Ben tried so hard to stay in professional/teacher mode and Josh was having none of it😂

[@ia79661]

josh is the student that’s too smart that ends up just acting like buds with the teacher

[@SuberKieran]

It's funny you say that I felt like Josh was so incredibly hinged in this video. He's basically on his best behavior. But you can really how much fun they're having and the mutual respect though.

[@toastylyfe]

Love this content. I hope to see more in the future!