Soul Crew Football Hooligan Reviews The London Clubs

[@6571sid]

As a Millwall fan gotta say Cardiff was game ill never forget my first away game alone was Cardiff away mid week and only 13 years old fucking scary but loved it and was well looked after by the older Wall great times

[@grahamevans2021]

6:44 6:46 6:46

[@seamuskavanagh9326]

The soul crew had a great firm in their day the only problem was it was 20 yrs after everyone else had finished

[@opticalman6417]

the only problem is their traumazised individuals with a negative entity attachment these people are narcissistic psychopaths so noting was great about them at all its mindless senseless evil people like this that make this world the way it is

[@marcellos9208]

Not 20 years , 1995 - 2002 were their top years and many firms were still active!

[@shauncorless8965]

Your right ,,,spurs in late 1979 absolutely mad firm

[@BoneStar]

True he's old enough to remember chelsea taking two ends and a side on the same day

[@TheBostonR]

@@BoneStar Still get blokes who say that didn't happen, lol. That was, from everything I've been told by Cardiff fans, caught on the hop, the worst they ever got done at home. Completely run ragged at Ninian Park and the whole day / evening in the City.

[@BarryCampbell6822]

I was 16 in 1973, and a Tranmere supporter, when my older brother shamed and harassed me into going to Everton Millwall at Goodison. It was a war, and I was never nervous or scared of anything ever again after that day, it was epic, I didnt get nicked, and if I had my time over, I'd go. 2004 at Prenton Park, I was 46, did nothing, and got arrested.

[@Racc988]

Big up Tranmere great club 👏

[@chelseacharger]

I came through Shepherds Bush on the way down to Stamford Bridge in 2010 and there were loads of cop minibuses in the side streets off the green. Figured then that Cardiff were about but plod had that area nailed down . A lot of the old Chelsea who were spotted on the King's Road were on banning orders too and a bunch got jailed. That was a mad day and nobody could believe that the police let 6,000 Cardiff out at the same time as the home crowd after the match. They were going to get at each other, one way or another. Great days out at Ninian Park too in the 80's.

[@tomthomas9708]

Chelsea are mugs.

[@TwickenhamLondon]

Fool ​@@tomthomas9708

[@markdavids2511]

You can never underestimate any firm as it’s all about on the day, who turns out, who doesn’t & every dog has its day.

[@timwine9607]

Shut up you mug it's all about the 80s when all firms where active only 5 top back then Millwall leicester chealsea westham Birmingham

Orient never been run

[@Willsey]

Yes agreed

[@trevdjmrbeaver3150]

I see you on them tennis courts i was there it was epic but yes the old bill were ready big respect to u boys but THFC was massive that night and we had firms everywhere picking you off in numbers but you only firm that stood your ground in my opinion on our manor

[@andrewmorfitis5741]

Cardiff soul crew a top firm, and this guy knows his stuff. Nice to hear some reality and not fairy story's. BRISTOL CITY CSF84.

[@JackNeo-z7m]

Im a millwall fan born and bred but cardiff are naughty there always game

[@LianFarrelly]

As a west ham man big shout to the Cardiff lads hard as nails.i worked with a cardiff lad for a couple of years loved him to bits.he wouldnt back down from no one.camden.

[@hmq9052]

A lot of Berties in Wales now.

We've done west ham so many times

[@swiftcee266]

Take your tongue from out of his arse hole!

[@TheWESTSIDE1967]

Well the main man didn't say so,

[@stephenmackenzie8920]

Watford?

[@ChadPlainview_]

I was at that Millwall vs Cardiff game as a kid. It proper kicked off as well.

[@michaelflitter8511]

The game at Griffin Park, Hayes v Cardiff was a mad night. Where i was standing in Braemar Road blokes from Millwall, West Ham, Arsenal, Tottenham, QPR, Chelsea, Brentford. Mostly Millwall ! It was funny watching Cardiff come over the bridge after the game looking for trouble. They saw what was waiting for them, turned round got in there mini buses and vanished. Also they lost to a non league side.

[@marcellos9208]

1994 Boro frontline smashed Cardiff

[@wingmasterjimmy6724]

@@marcellos9208 UTFB

[@TheBostonR]

I would disagree with you re the make up of Hayes followers mate. Let's see if any of the Cardiff there that night who read the thread remember this chant - "We're Hayes not Yeading, we're gonna kick your head in"? What Cardiff, and maybe anyone outside of west London didn't know, was how 'explosive' in numbers and tough guys, Hayes Middx was. The area is a large working-class suburb, at the time of Cardiff's visit it was majority QPR and Chelsea, both clubs happy to go toe to toe with the Soul Crew. As the man said, they were unorganized, because half a thought at research would have revealed the potential problems they were running into at that fixture. Hayes came down in big numbers.

[@bertie5512]

@@TheBostonRI agree with you there I’m from Hayes and was there that night and the majority were from Hayes I think most of the rough pubs laid on mini buses 😄

[@MrStevemarc]

Big chels crew from Hayes...

[@adamhaywood1327]

How come no one ever mentions Arsenal? We hold our own against any firm in London, and run them?

[@bendavis6347]

Hayes at Brentford for that Cardiff game that night were mainly Chelsea and QPR.

[@markbee9767]

The late 70s football tear ups were massive, in the 80s (my time of involvement) the firms got organised, we shifted the fashion (from pringles & lois jeans, benneton rugby tops, ellesse ski jackets, tachini & fila trackies, Burberry check jumpers, and adidas trim trams in 81-83, to armani & sicons leather jackets and high end Italian designers in 84) and we all became aware of who every firms faces were. It peaked early-mid 80s, then started nose-diving in 88, when ecstasy came out, and big prison sentences. A younger crowd kept it going in the 90s (when Chelsea and Tottenham's firms had a resurgence) but it's a totally different world in the 2000s... Firstly, everyone has had their day. I remember Chelsea famously doing West ham at Victoria. Arsenal doing Millwall at Highbury Grove, and also at Whitechapel. EVERYONE has been done at some point! Now thats out the way, without doubt, West Ham & Millwall were the naughtiest London firms in the 70s & 80s. You couldn't call it between them, and when one of them came unstuck against the other, it was usually just because of numbers. I'm from South, so have known Millwalls firm since the Den in the 70s, the only reason West Ham's firm are higher profile than Millwall's is because Millwall's team were always poop, playing in lower divisions, so the other big clubs firms hardly ever met them. And one of the reasons West Ham were so good is because their firm was massive. You had the old Mile End Mob (fella's in their 40s fighting since the 1970s) plus the ICF aged 20s & 30s, plus the Under 5's aged 20s & teens. They were 3 big firms in one. In my experience Arsenal were probably the next best London firm in the 80s. Of the dozen or so times we had it with Chelsea and Tottenham around 82-88 we almost always give it to them. (The annual London clubs 5-aside tournament at Wembley were always naughty, and guaranteed tear ups with more than 1 other firm. The FA scrapped the yearly tournament because of the tear ups in the surrounding back streets. They were naughty, with hardly any gavvers about.) And for those that were into clobber, Arsenal's firm were the top dressers in the 80s too. Us and the scousers. (Apart from the Zulu's) Arsenal had the most multi-cultural firm as well, a large black contingent from North and SE London. In 83 our Arsenal black bods were the first group of young black kids in the country that shaved their hair off (which has become the common style these days.) if you were into clobber, as we all were in those days, our firm looked proper good lol. Big bad Paul, Ridgey, Cookie, Sparksey, Denton, Barret, Osman, Bryn, Danny Miller, Sissons, Adrian Mcginley, Big Des Robbo. Exciting, great days 😉

[@johnbush6901]

You definitely weren't a better firm than Chelsea in the 80s

[@brickabat5113]

1982 at highbury a few weeks after arsenal played wham you lost 3-1 to spurs and spurs were all over the NB. Let me guess you were all in the CE so we only done old ladies and shirters or whatever spin you try and put on it. When did you ever put a proper firm in the shelf? Never unless youre talking about a little mob who went down the paxton which was definitely shirters and families at that time. And you still got kicked out. Lets be honest Arsenal were very good mid to late 80s but all this bollox that you give it to spurs from 82 aint true. And dont think you was the only multi cultural mob. Spurs had black lads from edmonton, enfield and tottenham from the 70s onwards. Shouldve seen the mob that turned up at brighton one year.

[@markbee9767]

@@Mark-H-k7w the archway suicide squad :) great crowd, and the mile end lot you mentioned. Memories flooding back when you mentioned that icf lot too. No, I knew 'fuzzy' and all the elephant/walworth early 80's gooners, my nickname was chip. I was best mates with sissons. We were part of the small crowd from north & south who were grafting clobber, then kettles every week in swizz from 82-92. Sounds like a naughty on top you & ridgey had with that lot. Where I was going abroad every week I was often meeting scousers & mancs on the boat and having a drink. I'd often bump into football over there. Sometimes a truce, sometimes not. I was in Zurich train station one early eve with some yids S lee, Wayne & fire McGuire, and we bumped into S Pearman etc, big chivs came out, but we all had bags of goods, so it didn't go mental lol. I often bumped into the under 5's (who were more my age) J Pearman, shakesy, bradley t, m bacon, etc I got on well with them over there, but that obvs went right out the window on match day lol. Good to have a reminisce particularly when we had a great firm. You're right re: Barratt etc, a lot of our lot drifted more into £ in the late 80s/90s though didn't they.

[@andrewmorfitis5741]

Ps, Arsenal at Bristol city , twice they had a good firm leaving the game 10 mins befor full time, 200 strong, and we proper had a battle with them. The gooners . Millwall and west ham are top firms in London, went to cold blow twice with bristol city , ferocious.

[@manchester1972]

Every firm has its day.. West ham come to us in 85 in the facup..going off everywhere from 8am until midnight. United edged it but it was mahem everywhere. All around piccadilly station all the way up Warwick road inside and outside the ground and down deans gate at night. The best day ever of football violence at old trafford.

[@pablojablo6371]

The 1985 one.

[@stevea8256]

77 and 84 were lively down at Cardiff, Chelsea took it to them big time and they readily admit that. The 2010 Kings Road had potential but the old bill sniffed it out, still lively though

[@DavidWheeler-u3h]

What an excruciating interview. Gotta turn this of before I fall asleep.

[@thecentralclub]

Defo representing a London club that was not mentioned lol

[@dougiedoright]

Pommie stamina. Where. Photos of kids that couldn't handle an actual hit. Pussies in numbers.

[@iandavies6575]

Yes, this guy wasn't around in the 70s or 80s

[@J69er]

Must be a jack !! 😂

[@markfarmer1815]

Cardiff v chelsea Ninian Park March 1984 if you was there you'd know.

[@paulnotley1127]

Chelsea took the piss

[@martinvegas1327]

I was the dj at Ministry of Sound which was all Millwall back in the day and i'm from Middlesbrough👍

[@thecentralclub]

Yes martin

[@leedoug326]

😂😂😂

[@jacksmalling4265]

​@thecentralclub get him on the pod? Lol probably got some wild stories

[@raindancerave8521]

What you talking about all Millwall back in the day ? No it wasn't fella

[@nickclark5932]

All the door men were west ham🤔

[@infrasleep]

There's the flip side to this; Cardiff City fans/Soul Crew were all heart-when Aldershot went there in 1992 for our last ever league game before going bust and having to resign from the league,they had a bucket collection to give to our players (who hadn't been paid for months) and were superb hosts to the Shots fans who went to witness the end in our darkest day. Never been forgotten. Sometimes it doesn't take or need aggro to get respect.

[@J69er]

I remember that game 👊🏻

[@Ian-bq7gp]

The miners anywhere deserve huge respect . 12 of my family from Swansea were miners in 1880s to 1920s and beyond. I hated Thatcher and her dodgy evil PIE lot.

[@wesleyrobinson3063]

Millwall old ground you wouldn't want to go there, not playing about but do respect Cardiff.

[@cryptowithbrownie8299]

The tennis courts in Spurs were class. They come down here the night before because it was their banned lads who couldn’t go within a few miles of the ground on the day of the game

[@GrahamWillson]

Honest guy,no bs,very interesting,respect sir

[@jamesmcnaboe8184]

As a millwall fan got respect for Cardiff, even at the old den where no away mobs would turn up ,cardiff showed ip every season ,got smadhed but still bounced back the yr later ,

[@Bertie22222]

You couldn't have gone then.

[@hayleylocke6049]

Swansea got in the home end in the 80's.

[@mfc2603]

@@hayleylocke6049they got slaughtered when they was getting escorted around the seating to the away end even the normals were laying in punches

[@coniferclose]

@@mfc2603 1982/83 if my memory serves me correctly. My first game watching the lions and Swansea got battered being led round the pitch.

[@althomas3168]

Always enjoyed Millwall.. last time was 98 when we went in the boozer by the ground. Full of cut throats and kicked off outside when out train crew pitched up outside..

[@michaelharrison3602]

High end fashion gear from Sport's direct and Primark with a few snide street market barberry check baseball caps along with a few designer labels that one of them brought back from Thailand 😂

[@pablosniffer2611]

I'm a Reading fan and remember being at Ninian Park in 1998 in the FA Cup when a load of Soul Crew boys got nicked. Proper rough place Cardiff with some top lads, great day out.

[@davidboyle1193]

Bumpkins

[@TheFragilityOfIdeas]

Back in the day I used to go to Vicarage Road to watch Watford on a Tuesday night. Ah you should’ve seen it, there were hundreds, nah thousands, of lads, all seated with a programme and a steak and kidney pie, many clad in berghaus fleeces, watching the game with a heady level of respect for others, before going home, usually after a defeat and getting a good night’s sleep. Ah I tell ya, them days were madness!

[@toldyabro2786]

lol

[@TomTom-so6hc]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@marlonthemarvellous]

😂😂

[@michaeldunn7554]

As a 60 year old Millwall fan I gotta say Cardiff were definitely game on their day but so were the Swansea Jacks who always seemed very organised to me. Got some good stories though of meets especially around Ninian Park many years ago.

[@spotasmith7124]

Lost my front tooth at Swansea

[@888Londoncalling]

I remember some soul crew book that said when millwall ie the wackers ambushed cardiff at the elephant roundabout that we put all the windows through and ran away, that's not entirely true as after we finished putting all the windows through while soul crew coaches stuck in the traffic we dragged them off the coaches through windows the lot, only when it come on top with old bill as they was on us not cardiff that we fucked off only then did cardiff attempt to get off the coaches just to put the record straight.

[@stephendavid8031]

Of course you did 🤣🤣

[@888Londoncalling]

@@stephendavid8031 Get back in your lane silly bollocks no need to lie about something 40 odd years ago . We ain't all internet warriors and moody authors.

[@stephendavid8031]

What a whopper 🤣🤣🤣

[@kbeesmot9928]

Every hooli that tells their story appears to have never been 'done'! They travel away and take it to home team and as this geezer in his example says "Chelsea never turned up". What I have seen is everyone used pile in, and both sides took injuries, plod would steam in and separate everyone and get a few thighs in with their batons for good measure. All have had a good time, and no one can really claim a victory. Then as the 80's went in to the 90's, less would pile in as Dibble filmed it all and we drift in to the 00's and the numbers dwindle for proper lads to get a decent scrap in ( it happened, but not as often). Nowadays, there is a lot of dancing behind police lines and wannabe tough guys shouting and jeering.

[@147breaks]

Russian and poles are like MMA fighters 😂, they'd knock fuck out of anyone 😂

[@michaelharrison3602]

True nowadays you've got a stone island logo and wave your arms around you're a top boy 😂

[@miamiglia]

Anyone who says ain’t been done are full of Sh!t I’m a Portsmouth fan we been done many times same as any other club not say we having dished it out either 👍

[@johnoriordan5695]

I go Millwall, was at that game, Arrived latish ,Was walking to the game slowly noticing bits of destruction went to the game when i came home picked up a Stanley knife that i found at New Cross . Still got it, Only ever used for legitimate purposes. Unusual souvenir..

[@Bri-254]

United v Cardifff at Ninian Park in the old 2nd division was epic Nothing from Cardiff in the return.

[@DougieMontana]

Hayes was always a breeding ground for Chelsea and QPR

[@jonclark1113]

Seen Cardiff turnout. Well impressed. Top notch firm 💯

[@stevecooksley]

I started going away regularly with West Ham in 1985 but the following year after Heysel and the north sea ferry battle we couldn't move without a massive police presence. The club stopped selling tickets for away matches and it was the end for the ICF, the main men were all locked up and anyone who got nicked at football had the book thrown at them. Upton Park was still a fun place at times but going away you were only really threatened with real violence by police forces like South Yorkshire's who hated southerners and still had a miners' strike mentality.

[@p90497]

85 same year i started going away with West Ham as well. There were lots of little groups like the guvnors. Still scrapped everywhere but police followed us from 10am

[@Hammer-py4mr]

73-86 following the irons. Too young to go to the Harry Cripps testimonial in 72, but never seen anything like Man Utd at UP in 74, retribution for 67. Millwall at UP 78 was after ian pratt died and Wall handed out leaflets to kill a West Ham fan, helicopter overhead and police escort for wall from tube to SB, I had ICF mates who infiltrated the Wall escort and Wall mates in the same escort who told me later that they clocked them, when they got in the SB it was emptied in minutes, no fences, SB broke through the police corden game over. Millwall away 79 was a night game lots of agg before but after 78 police were out on mass. Took my boys in 2009 Wall at UP was handbags compared with the 70s. At least its safe now, just rambo knives now, no stanleys, flick knives, axes, meat cleavers, bricks, knuckle dusters, baseball bats, darts, nunchucks or kung fu stars, country dogs...

[@sonnythesnowball]

This man is great, he tells the truth. West ham were the toughest by far, but now west hams firm is almost nonexistent. The truth is, sadly, football hooligans are the real supporters. Fact.

[@MrChipz900]

How are they the real supporters? Football hooligans are a bunch of muppets.

[@BoneStar]

There was nothing between West Ham and Millwall equal in the heyday, but as a Chelsea fan and home and away we could never profess to be Londons top boys but out of London and anywhere we visited will tell you we were mustard out of London, took more ends than any London club.

[@garyedwards9759]

​@@BoneStarwest ham never always had the numbers late 70s 80s they always went in the home ends even wen badly outnumbered. they certainly had some lunatics in them days.

[@BoneStar]

@@garyedwards9759 Yep and they took the Shed in 75, Millwall tried

[@garyedwards9759]

​sept 1980 west ham stormed across the shed chelsea fans ran onto the pitch to get away. the game was stopped and i think the players were taken off the pitch. west ham also filled the north stand as well. west ham were lunatics in those days. even chelseas chubby chris RIP wrote about it in his book.

[@stephensaunders1200]

Alright lads you seem like nice fellas I'm a yid and was in them tennis courts with my mates and you held your and own respect

[@TomTom-so6hc]

Did it go to a tie break ?

[@bigpants6121]

new balls please!@@TomTom-so6hc

[@mickhavermans7319]

Cardiff played Wolingham away in Fa cup years ago & got a good hiding a few Chelsea turned up,also been Cardiff couple times with Chelsea last time old div2 Chelsea were losing 3 nil 15 mins to go drew 3-3,Chelsea had 3 quarter's of the ground,Cardiff obviously had a good firm but i be honest I've never seen it

[@BoneStar]

I'll vouch for that

[@stevancollins8267]

Ask the Russians. 😅😊😮

[@pablosniffer2611]

Remember that day, Reading and Chelsea smashed them all over the place

[@althomas3168]

I was there.. can’t recall that. Just mouth and a wall collapsed on a police woman. Chelsea don’t talk about 1976 at Stamford Bridge.

[@BoneStar]

@@althomas3168 West Ham don't talk about anything except that they've never been fucked over EVER.

[@unkleknobhead]

When the question was asked about surrounding London area's, he may have forgot that the same day that England won the rugby world cup was the same day that around 60 lads from Milton Keynes battered Cardiff all over the place when Cardiff played MK Dons.

[@TheMurph1981]

First I’ve heard of that. I went to MK with Cardiff in 2003 when they were still called Wimbledon. I don’t know if that was the day England won the RWC as I don’t follow it. The delusion of Cardiff getting battered by MK is just 😂.

[@glenmorgan4597]

Milton Keynes couldn't batter a piece of fish

[@unkleknobhead]

@@glenmorgan4597 lol

[@KimMason-qq7hk]

Fuck off Milton Keynes wouldn't iron out the girl guides

[@martinvegas1327]

Do one on Northern England firms next time👍

[@SKBSKBSKBSKBSK]

Why

[@martinvegas1327]

@@SKBSKBSKBSKBSK He just did the South my man😎👍

[@davidboyle1193]

There isn't ant

[@chriswintle664]

Late 70.s went to Upton Park when Birmingham City played West Ham Utd we won 1-2 but ICF were frightening

[@MikeNitro-og2xb]

I'm Chelsea since 1967..in the 70s and 80s we had great support especially out of London...took many ends...got some beatings too Nowadays Chelsea has the worst fighting elements of support of maybe 6 London clubs...firstly CFC managed to exchange hardcore for normal fans when the old shed died...terrace shed I mean...then so many wealthy folk arrived as fans that the types of fans just wanted to be at a match and look at their phones...got some small firms but too spread around the ground..Fulham rd area from the tube to the ground is well handled by police who care more for the swanky bars and homes and businesses than fans...and keep the tightest grip I e seen at footy grounds...we don't have a loony area support in Knightsbridge Kensington Sloane Square as these areas dond particularly support us....no grimey back streets to lurk in and wait

[@MikeNitro-og2xb]

This is unlike other London clubs especially yids who are in a rotten area full of rotten side streets..spurs arsenal equal tops now...spam wall equal next

[@MegaQzpm]

bringing 700 to us millwall was a massive cop out in my view it was never going to happen with a massive mob like that

[@ponyboycurtis3795]

Yeah it's like a self snitch move they knew full well they were getting nicked before any aggro happened mobbing through the capital with 700 stone island coats on.

[@coniferclose]

They hid behind the ob all day. Good job to as they would have got murdered. Rumour has it they tipped the ob off when they were travelling but I can’t confirm that and they ain’t ever going to admit it. I was at that game and there was no way they had 700 proper lads out that day. The Welsh like their stories and that’s one of Cardiffs favourites.

[@althomas3168]

Don’t think that’s true.. probably 600 mob, but your right. Too many gets the flag.

[@daveroberts6791]

Fuck me i've read some shit but you take the biscuit. Did Cardiff "hide behind big numbers" in the Simod Cup Second Leg? NOPE.... 80 odd showed up in South London Early afternoon and sat tight all afternoon, no OB, wandered up and down the OKR. Couldnt have done more other than knocking on peoples doors and dragging them out their houses. You clowns. As for the "never had 700 lads" - I think the official number was 753 supporters? Apart from lads I saw one geezer with his two kids. Other than that, lads. So stop talking shite MAYBE... We should have watched The Firm first, and turned up with 8? lololol

[@stephendavid8031]

We had over 7/800 lads everyone went an hid behind the old bill lol the old bill had it sewn up the mullering your lot took at the ninian park game I can see why your bitter

[@tonypaulmcdonald4108]

I hate to tell you mate but that wasn't chelsea's main firm, everyone knows chelsea had at least 4 firms.

[@Jobberoona]

Untouchable if they all went together

[@jrb1802uk]

The ICF were untouchable in the 70s and early to mid 80s. Bill Gardner was an animal when he got going. Andy Swallow and Cass Pennant were too.

[@paularchibald288]

Met Bill many years later. I liked him he had principles and standards. Untouchable? Maybe not. Man Utd back then could turn out 400 like that.

[@Willsey]

No one was untouchable and no one ever won every time. Though to listen to some they claim the opposite

[@J69er]

Let’s not forget Carlton 👊🏻

[@ponyboycurtis3795]

Phil Mitchell put a bit of timber on 😂

[@martinintrospective3491]

I Sailed from the U.K. to Ibiza in 1999. Me & my mate purchased a Beneteau 411 oceaness clipper . We went to Manumission & blagged it into the VIP lounge. I noticed Phil Mitchel( Steve McCfadden) in there with this mystery Blonde. My mate was a photographer he got talking to Phil . Phil was wired his bottom lip was going. My mate sat him down in a alcove & rolled one up. My mate shouted us over & Phil ordered some MOËT champagne for us & him. When he found out we had sailed from the U.K. with just 4 weeks sailing lessons. The Moët arrived it was €800 Euros a bottle .

[@ponyboycurtis3795]

@@martinintrospective3491 hahaha.. Good story bro I also have a good true story.. We were in Kos in Greece back in the early 2000"s and we're in a bar playing pool.. I kid you not the rapper DMX rocked upto us completely on his own and asked if he could play the winner.. my mate sed yes and after a bit one of us asked him if he was DMX and he sed yeah.. We went onto have a great night with him and he loved the charlie and the bud.. At the end of the night which was literally like about 5 am he handed my pal a handful of money for all the sniff and bud of ours he had been smoking and casually walked off into the morning sun.. Great dude he was.. R. I. P DMX.. Legend

[@misfit1978]

​@@martinintrospective3491Manumission great times

[@qprcasual]

Big respect to Cardiff, always show and always game.. little ole Qpr had some blinders with you boys...

[@bluescousenilsatis]

The thing with QPR is you never knew if it was their mob or locals. We got ambushed one night by a mob of black lads with metal poles, flares the works. Still don't know if it was them or not. Be around 84 ish.

[@stevenobrien3763]

@@bluescousenilsatisproper rough area around Loftus Road the White City Estate though. Not a place I’d like to be walking around on mi Todd on a night.

[@bluescousenilsatis]

@@stevenobrien3763 That's what we did I think. South Africa road rings a bell. Went to next station and it kicked off proper. Fuckin loads of them. Chased us back up the road, then bizzies arrived. We didn't have a great mob on the night, but think we'd have still needed to be bang on

[@stevenobrien3763]

@@bluescousenilsatis we used to go supping around Sheperds Bush before the match and that’s a proper shit hole anorl🥴😂😂

[@lukassssi]

@@bluescousenilsatischelsea

[@JimboBond71]

Boro Frontline took a couple hundred to chelsea, play off final, we marched down the fulham road, nothing! we got off the main road and got confronted by about 40 boys - soon as they seen our numbers they ran. The day was a none event apart from boro getting promoted. When the cup was held at cardiff & boro got to the final, we were there before the pubs opened, with a serious firm. Got talking to a couple of soul crew lads later, they were sound, and full of respect for our firm. We arranged some chew for later. They got mobbed up and made some serious attempts to get to us, but the bobbies had it well sussed. Even that bloke who done the soul crew book had nowt but good things to say of The Frontline. From about the mid 80s to early 90s Boro Frontline were one of the top firms in the country, and i think anyone who knows the score knows that. Just ask Andy Nichols 'Scally'.

[@JimboBond71]

didnt go to wembley...The match i refer to was at stamford bridge, play off... but it's just one of those things, sometimes you just dont bump into the right boys, but as a young lad i was gutted we never got to have it with 'HH', as every psycho from the estates of boro turned out that day, half the cunts could'nt even stand football, but any firm would of had there hands full with that particular Frontline mob on that day.@@jamieoliver3262 but it was what it was -

[@Rumpleforeskin77]

​​@@jamieoliver3262Special needs maybe . Who was the only firm to do any Russians in France .. Millwall You had numbers but not many of yours were any good when it got sticky ..

[@jamieoliver3262]

@Rumpleforeskin77 rumpole of the Bailey weren't In France son as for you being a bit sticky use a poxy toilet roll in your case your sock u skut !

[@jamieoliver3262]

@@Rumpleforeskin77 u gonk u ain't ever crossed your local river u peanut France do me a favour u never had a poxy passport ffs🥜

[@jamieoliver3262]

@Rumpleforeskin77 go get yourself a job your reading too many newspapers fkin Herbert 🫵

[@michaelharrison3602]

This is like the sort of conversation i have with a mate on a Friday night after ten pints and a couple of grammes 😂

[@davidmellish3295]

Grams

[@jasonparfitt4299]

Ive learnt to not take any firm for granted.I went to Ipswich 86 87 season when Pompey went there.I give Ipswich credit that day it was toe to toe fighting before and after the game .No quater given by either firm .Ipswich stood their ground that day against the 657 crew,who were a solid unit then.

[@stevenobrien3763]

657 always came to Barnsley and got action. Our older lads always loved it when Pompey came to town, always fetched good numbers by all accounts👍👌

[@markdavids2511]

True, never underestimate any firm as every dog has its day & it’s all about who turns out on the day. I was active with Hull in the 80s,90s, before cctv made our football fun a mugs game, lads get older & can’t risk an arrest for a silly street fight which could see them in prison, losing everything.

[@jasonparfitt4299]

@stevenobrien3763 remember going to Barnsley with Ipswich in a fa cup 4thround game in thel late eighties .Got ambushed between two pubs ,half of our lot legged it,but myself and 5 others stood.I got a right slap and sported a huge deformed black eye! One copper in the ground commented in a gruff Yorkshire accent " fuk Me its elephant man" great memories .

[@jasonparfitt4299]

@markdavids2511 agreed mate i got bird for a football related incident with Ipswich in the mid eighties .I realise now as fun as it seemed I was a mug,and even though your told criminal records are spent after ten years it's all bull shit.When i applied for even shirty jobs ,once your CRB check has come through you get excuses from a possible employer,basically do not call us we will call you.

[@TomTom-so6hc]

CRB shows up EVERYThing mate. You're right, we were mugs, nearly killed the game I love

[@noodles169]

Valley rams, and the rest of the valley boys were the ones who caused the most trouble. Them lot were totally nuts. To be honest, every cardiff fan were fuuking nuts back in the 70s 80s 90s. Soul crew was just a name to blame all the violence on

[@AshC-tx8mw]

Swindon?! Lol has the interviewer ever looked at a map?

[@paulsullivan6343]

Cardiff didn't show at home Early 2000 in the league cup game at Home to west ham

[@althomas3168]

You weren’t on Penarth Road then..

[@rd92HAMMERS]

nothing much before the game from what i can remember,little bit under train line?we was in cardiff early doors….. very lively at ht with the ob in the ground… looked like a warzone on way back to station after, where ob had to clear cardiff off street….. they were still trying down all the side streets tho…. my view on that night 2004

[@stephendavid8031]

@althomas3168 spot on myself an a load of others got jail for that cup game including cardiffs 2 top lads

[@soulcrewblue8629]

Every mob can get turned over on the day, but the best mobs very rarely do, to say otherwise is bs.

[@strangetv4635]

"After we had Millwall in 1999, they were all over social media."...I wonder what social media Millwall was using in 1999. Yahoo Messenger? Myspace?

[@themanwithnoname3636]

Well spotted

[@larry2569]

Lol, I think he meant the internet in general. Like football forums

[@BT-kc3ee]

​@@larry2569he's talking out of his arse mate let's be honest

[@hughesey009]

I'll ask Jeeves. 😂

[@itsYarni]

As soon as he said that I turned it off.

[@shauncorless8965]

Come to millwall ,,and expect a bit of ruff and tumble

[@bluescousenilsatis]

Depending on which boozer you find. Their proper mob drinks in the 'Never showed arms'. Just up the road from Bottled it lane

[@johndean4765]

Millwall don't have a proper firm anymore.

[@bluescousenilsatis]

@@johndean4765 They keep banging on about having one. The one nobody can find, but they wait in a boozer somewhere. The ghost squad?

[@williambeck1574]

Fucked by Everton school boys who took over millwalls estates

[@MikeNitro-og2xb]

I remember us Chelsea going to Cardiff in the 70s and fighting in all ends....Mickey droy our player grabbed one of our lot and threw him from the pitch to the side terrace....good turnout by your lot at the bridge tho...

You got done that day. Chelsea ran away

[@paullewis3251]

Late 70s , remember Cardiff turning up at the valley Charlton about 300 of them tried to get in the covered end well before the game started and about 10=15 Charlton blocked there way ready to take the lot on and Cardiff backed off after the game we had a battle with them top of Floyd rd and chased Cardiff back to the station .... appy days.

[@stevedrew9857]

The cardiff natives where not happy with us 81 at their place when some of the cardiff lads got done in the away end big mob waiting for us just outside and in the car park the local old bill saved us from a kicking SMILE LOL

[@bermondseyboy1660]

Ha ha ha 10-15 train spotters blocked there way (300) think you’re watching to many green street films

[@paullewis3251]

@@bermondseyboy1660 I could say the same about your lot well known as myth makers .

[@bermondseyboy1660]

@@paullewis3251 Obviously you haven’t been to Millwall.Since when has Charlton had a firm.Don’t embarrass yourself 😀😂😂😂

[@Michael-dc2bh]

Your only embarrassing yourself mate... He said the 70s.. All Wall firms from the 70s to the 90s know Charlton's firm. If you were propa Millwall u would know that... You obviously never went to the actual Den then !!! Or the valley.. We never had a firm ? Lol.. Ask your propa boys... U melt!!

[@michaelharrison3602]

It was a quiet local down the Old Kent Road used by local pensioners some of who got bottled and glassed including grannies

[@georgeclarke2300]

The way people can’t give Tottenham credit makes me laugh 🤣

[@davidboyle1193]

Because you're scumbags

[@Jobberoona]

Cause they never dis nothing when it mattered, never took it nowhere. Having some youtube hoolies in the 2020s dont mean a thing petal

[@CUSTARDMIKE]

@@Jobberoonaspot on mate

[@petermorrison9041]

Tottenham 😂😂😂😂😂 pure mugs

Giving tottenham is a disease once youve got it youve got to get treated for it

[@mick6370]

Whether its palatable to some on here or not Chelsea & Leeds were the two most dominant clubs for hooliganism at its peak them two clubs were in the news and papers more than any other clubs for violence.

[@Isleofskye]

It is certainly not a badge of honour but Millwall was closed sown in The 1930's,1940's and 1950's and it is where hooliganism took off in the Mid 1960s onwards and I was there to witness it but never got involved.I enter my 8th decade next May.

[@grahamjonathan762]

Dulwich Hamlet done Cardiff's top firm in 99 at Brockwell Park and left most of them with their trousers around their ankles!

[@iohnxxxx]

and went to the lido together

[@grahamjonathan762]

@@iohnxxxx While they all munched on hard nut cakes

[@johndean4765]

Graham in your dreams that happened.

[@TheBostonR]

Yes Graham, the Hamlet are well known to enjoy dropping people's trousers.

[@grahamjonathan762]

@@johndean4765 They left them poor Cardiff boys faces in a terrible mess!

[@FKU7777]

Did this fella used to,post on ITK forum early 2000s/ AWOL?

[@dennishill4098]

If you're willing to take part then fair enough the thing I f##king hate is when some innocent person gets there head smashed in .Most firms will say they don't do that iv seen it many times

[@millwalldave467]

Para Dave good lad Falklands veteran he gets about has met a few of our lads been down the den, proper old skool

[@henryclarke5363]

london the play ground of fv...the tube, the main stations, fantastic back then, kings x and euston were war zones!!

[@thecentralclub]

Euston Square was there last week

[@henryclarke5363]

@@thecentralclub many rows round there

[@jamiewilson5679]

Yep,even for a div like me ,you never knew who you would meet and it was an adventure.

[@henryclarke5363]

@@Mark-H-k7w maybe you needed glasses, was there many times, and later in 90,s yids were main lot stalking euston and the cross...but hey respect to all who got involved

[@oosnice7348]

The presenter guy at 4:50 dissing the valley boys dress code as opposed to Chelsea ..fact is there were guys in The Valleys dressed a whole lot better than any London club at the start of “casual” with perhaps the possible exception of Arsenal

[@dofaolain7549]

A lot of Chelsea firm back in the day were from Reading, Slough

[@thfcno1274]

Scotland green, 80 versus 80 or so, Cardiff got mullered, remember seeing loads of Welsh on the floor, remember seeing a yid smashing a Cardiff fan, other yids had to pull him away, took a massive mob to cardiff, ob were out in force, respect to cardiff, great battles

[@user-keepitreal420]

Respect to Cardiff boys but I don't think you could get a decent pub quiz team out of them !

[@opticalman6417]

its deeply rooted in trauma like with all violence mental health issues are on the rise the two go hand in hand other wise people wouldnt behavior like this in the first place the football thugs have tried to move closer to wellness by physically acting out in an attempt to no longer feel powerless by committing a crime. In effect, they project their feelings of powerless out onto their victim and in doing so, feel more empowered. It is a reaction rising from fear.

[@liam.4454]

What's the alternative? How could they feel empowered otherwise?

[@THISISLolesh]

It’s craic and adrenaline. No clue where this trauma shit comes from, man has been a warrior since day one. Humans are hunters, violence has been a common staple of man’s behaviour for thousands of years, we have a thing called testosterone, it’s natural. Your way is idealistic and has only come about recently, it’s flawed though because you’ll always just be the victim, soyman6417.

[@Rumpleforeskin77]

There is that but it's also just fun .If it wasn't enjoyable and exciting no one would bother fighting but it's primal and natural

[@aaronsmith5056]

Got done in Cardiff back in the 80s went in their end with ickeys lot cfchh

[@davidgott9045]

If you watch and listen to these football hooligans no matter which club it is they all say the same things all of them another words most of its absolute bollocks.

[@ianking8315]

agree a bunch of bellends most of them.

[@ysonNikos]

Milwall fans is the most fanatics.

[@bluescousenilsatis]

The bull ring was a naughty place in the 80's. Villa had a good mob. All clubs have a mob, but he's right. The mob on the day determined the outcome which is why some firms will claim they done another, but on another day they'd get fucked up. It's not about numbers, it's the quality that matters.

[@onetruesaxon6417]

I was there 2010 and Chelsea done ya, but your lot did have it respect to you 👏

[@marcellos9208]

That was not the soulcrew in 2010 ,they had already retired!

[@althomas3168]

Not sure.. but Chelsea away is never easy.

[@jacpfc01]

@@marcellos9208all the old lads came out

[@marcellos9208]

@@jacpfc01 too old and slow

[@stephendavid8031]

@onetruesaxon6417 cardiffs main lot were banned an didn’t even get anywhere near Chelsea that day the old bill rounded us up an escorted us back to the Severn bridge,Chelsea had their full mob out an still struggled against cardiffs younger lot fact,how many young firms go looking for it down the kings road Cardiff did

[@Discobiscuitcreampiebiker]

Millwall fan here, Cardiff are the only mob I respect, I was at the real ground away in 99

[@marcellos9208]

Smashed

[@TheBostonR]

My Millwall mates told me it was the best mob they'd ever seen.

[@jpberm-on-sea]

Every nutter in South Wales was out for wall in 99. Police locked us in so we run across the pitch and into the main stand and booted the doors open. We was overwhelmed by sheer numbers and got battered. I got stuck on the stairs and to be honest I'm glad I did because it was like zulu lol

[@coniferclose]

Went to that and believe me,it was mental all day. Best mob I have seen take it to Millwall and I’ve been going forty years.

[@althomas3168]

Was at that game.. the last throes of the art sadly. Fond memories of Millwall. Great club. CCFC.

[@DC42087]

Seen them get chased around shepards bush green by qpr 😅

[@kevinspachier203]

Some times it doesn't go way but that's the life style wouldn't change it for anything good remembers to old now 56 x bcfc the 80s were the best day's of my my life say no more mad one

[@johndean8295]

Top 7 Mons I've seen are Wall west ham pompey Southampton 70s 80s Boro Cardiff gooners 80s

[@michaelfarr1061]

Remember the game vs you at Swindon fa cup game,it was a bit hairy outside!! Later in the season bumped into a few of yours in Blackpool and they apologized and said it was there annual get together.

[@huwchandler7660]

The Cardiff firm in 2010? Missed the real chaps at Chelsea by 25 years or so. Muppets

[@stephendavid8031]

Chelsea’s top lads turned out an struggled an got shown up by a bunch of shirters an kids that day cardiffs main lot didn’t even make it to Chelsea

[@thesatisfiedcustomer4869]

Yep why didn’t they get a Time Machine and have it with you? You make it sound like they got born in a later generation deliberately to avoid Chelsea 😂

[@ullscarf]

Hayes were mainly QPR.

[@davidwilkinson8136]

As an Arsenal fan, in the late sixties early seventies "The Herd" where right up there and we had some real lunatics like Johnny Hoy. I left England nearly twenty years ago and when I hear on the news about fans bad behavior it makes me say to myself, you should have been around when "The Herd" where about.

[@raytanner4138]

Agree Arsenal were by far the baddest firm late sixties and 1980's too..

[@CUSTARDMIKE]

@@raytanner4138Gooners and The Herd massively underrated. No.1? Certainly not but those ITK know that AFC were more than good when it mattered

[@TheJohnCooperShow]

Arsenal never had a firm. Wuss fan base

[@parklane8315]

no one's heard of the herd !!! 🤣

[@parklane8315]

@@Mark-H-k7w yeah just fat nosed JOOners begging for a police escort to the lane ! 😎

[@scottlowder8576]

Doncaster rovers did Cardiff 1 night

[@jasonmaddison8815]

Didn't want to no at Newcastle Fact....... cryed for a polis....

[@tomwilson4395]

Let’s hope you can stand together with what’s happening now

[@stevedrew9857]

All their coaches had the windows put through on woolwich road 82

[@althomas3168]

Yes.. no windows going back down the M4. Remember getting home and glass in me roll up jeans.. 😀

[@stevedrew9857]

@@althomas3168 Your lot was going mad out of the windows 🙃, good day out down your way xmas 81 🤔😁

[@lesliehart]

Been down to Cardiff a few times in the mid 70's once with Tottenham twice with Hereford, was interesting.

[@lesliehart]

35,500 midweek Div 3 game, knew it was a big crowd didnt know it was Cardiffs home record

[@mick6370]

@@lesliehart Cardiff got 50,000 against Leeds in the 5th Round of the FA Cup in 1972 according to records, but as for a division 3 game down there unsure on that one.

[@RobbieMeadows-oz4cx]

I wore flares back in the day ..The days when flares meant birds ! I was geezer larging with apes such as yourself. You know, the one cell massive. I was king of the walk bruv

[@jadeluke296]

Tottenham are obviously top tier. Always have been. Always will be. Especially in the 1990s. Thank you for giving Spurs huge credit mate 🙂👍

Shame they aint top tier on the pitch unless you wanna go all the way back to the 60s hahaha

[@michaelharrison3602]

WHO??😢😢😢😢

[@stuartjenkins1067]

Lot of never was old men soft has shite Millwall all 8.000 fans

[@don__hector7845]

they had their moment for a few yrs in the 90s but west ham millalll arsenal chelsea best in 80s when i suppose it really mattered,even your comment shows how deluded tottenham are and arent actually respected in london by any club

[@shanethetrain8132]

​@don__hector7845 shut up you div. Spurs in the 70s were huge.

[@jl1876]

i remember we went to stockport once and damn they had a nice rum firm

[@markjohn1910]

Ask any old school hooligan about Arsenal and they all say they had a good firm . Forget the bullshit

[@simonhanks7000]

I’m spurs Arsenal had a great mob back in the day (the herd)I think they spent a long time inactive and I can’t comment on present day as I’m 54

[@markjohn1910]

@@simonhanks7000 I’m same age Simon . Both mobs had their moments through out 70s and 80.s . Well said

[@williambeck1574]

Arsenal always a no show at Everton

[@markjohn1910]

@@williambeck1574 bit like Everton at Arsenal then. Always had more respect back then for Liverpool , Everton never travelled , remember you lot getting a bad hiding at Kensington by Chelsea though and millwall doing same

[@markjohn1910]

@@williambeck1574 you obviously wernt a fighter back in the day or you would have admitted Arsenal got in your end at Goodson . Granted we didn’t stay but we did go in . Memory loss is it ???

[@droneangel4628]

I moved from Ireland 🇮🇪 In 93-94 got addicted to West Ham ⚒️ and I guess became a nutter and believe me when I tell you your life changes. But I agree ☝️ when the ICF disbanded it was more or less finished by 1997… I left football for a few years then got rolled in again but every time I had a fight I’d show my tattoo and say, Now your fucked… did it tonight when my cat wasn’t fixed in a garage and two Polish guys shat themselves 👊⚒️⚒️⚒️ I’m 56 now but it never goes away…

[@davidmcguire7424]

😂😂😂😂

[@garyfinch5346]

MILLWALL ARE THE TOP DOGS

[@Dukey39]

Yeah mean Shih Tzu's

[@bluescousenilsatis]

BOLLOCKS

[@johndean4765]

Millwall were hard in the 1970s and 1980s now there's no one of that calibre to replace them.

[@stvincents2007]

Still got little firms coming through not like all the old big firms still doing it

[@chrisferns5352]

Petrol bombing cars after losing play off game doesn't count

[@TomTom-so6hc]

Guys playing Fantasy Hooligan all over the gaff on here

[@ZzzZzz968]

Jackanory Evans.

[@newcastleutd4life624]

Didn't Middlesbrough v Cardiff play at victoria Park in hartlepool and it kicked rite off

[@richardlambert3937]

No that was port vale

[@Oldgit60]

I was never involved willingly, but following Chelsea home and away throughout the 70s and 80s meant that trouble found you occasionally, and I’d have to say that our trip to Ninian Park in 77 is right up there with the worst I witnessed, mad after the game in the park. Edit…The game at the Bridge earlier in the season was a bit lively as well.

[@Isleofskye]

Does Millwall v Chelsea 1976 ring any bells.? It was 3/0 to The Lions and even busier off the pitch:)

[@Oldgit60]

@@Isleofskye Earliest I’ve ever left a game, I was home before the match ended, but in terms of how many were involved and how it lasted from our arrival in town and throughout the day, the game at Cardiff in 77 was the worst I’ve seen at a Chelsea match.

[@Isleofskye]

@@Oldgit60 That makes perfect sense. When I went there with Millwall,I ended up in the middle of The 'ardiff fans chasing Millwall myself along with white skinhead girls,as I recall. I also read about a main Chelsea boy who said the Cardiff lads gave all their weapons to The Black and Mixed Raced Girls who hid them from the police.

[@MrChipz900]

It’s a shame that someone who doesn’t look for it gets wrapped up in nonsense witch these zombie fans.

[@colindoherty1891]

@@Isleofskyeyes I remember Millwall steaming over the pitch split Chelsea fans into sections, it kicking off all over the Den for the rest of the game.

[@SoyaSauceMFC]

Summed it up mate. Turnt up on a Wednesday night unannounced then tried to claim one after getting collared by old bill 😂 turn up like we did in 99 on a Saturday different world mate 😂😂

[@stephendavid8031]

Your lot got mullered though that Saturday in 99,Cardiff walked around the elephant & castle on a Tuesday night 150 handed with no escort an didn’t get touched……..