SoulCalibur V - What Happened?

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SC2 - Destiny Awaits No One
SC2 - No Turning Back
SC2 - Eternal Struggle
SC2 - Confrontation
SC2 - Sword of the Patriot
SC2 -No Turning Back
SC2 - Brave Sword Braver Soul
SC2 - Unwavering Resolve
Soul Blade - The Edge of Soul (Theme of Max)
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Intro By: / 2snacks and / littlevmills
#whathappened #mattmcmuscles #soulcalibur

[@GiantRobotUppercut]

Every time i see a new Wha Happun i always have to ask myself: "Just how many games were sacrificed upon the altar of the fiscal year?"

[@aaronbasham6554]

How many games does Activision put out a year?

[@BritishTeaFGC]

How many breads have you eaten?

[@KreuzDrache]

@@BritishTeaFGC I am so glad you said that, I was thinking the exact same line.

[@ryltair]

It's always short-term profits over long-term viability.

[@aaron_aj_knight_95]

Mario Party, every COD after Black Ops II Sonic Colors Tekken 4 E.T./Pac-Man Perfect Dark Zero Sleeping Dogs

[@chromasus9983]

I like how they went so far in 6 to undo what had happened in 5 that they essentially imply in-game that SCV is the "bad future." :D

[@taloscal]

they quite literally pulled a 'this is the worst timeline'

[@GReyn]

Well that is true 😂 i just wished that they kept Patroklos, Aeon/Lizardman, Viola, Zwei playstyle.. especially Patroklos, cuz we don't have any male sword & shield playstyle.. i don't want to make male fighter to use a feminime stance 😂🥲

[@Ramsey276one]

That’s an interesting idea to have back Seer and STANDO!!! XD

[@GReyn]

@@paperluigi6132 yeah ik.. what i meant was in SCVI..

[@seia2758]

@@GReyn God, no! Not Patroklos! That dude deserved to be wiped off the face of the SC Universe! He deserves all the hate from the community because of how the director FORCED him to replace Siegfried as the MC that it EPIC FAILED!

[@HelenaRedgrave]

This one's particularly sad for me since SoulCalibur is by far my favorite fighting game of all time. The team got shafted by Bamco and when it was received poorly, they just decided the franchise was dead. Bless Okubo's heart for reviving it and giving us SCVI.

[@swinelias]

I also have the same feelings

[@evanhanley6437]

This hits hard.

[@rg1124nov]

Took the words right out of my mouth. Thank God we got another chance with SCVI which is great. Plus my boy zasalamel is back!

[@turbotrup96]

What's so great about 6? I'm genuinely asking! Weak visuals. Retelling old story. Not many modes. Character creator stayed the same since 5. Paying for characters we already had in previous games, while the base game itself has only 3 new ones (if I'm correct), 1 of which can't be even used online...

[@Raxa724]

​@@turbotrup96 While I'm in the boat of SC6 being really fun to play, and not a fan of literally anything else. I can still give a few substantial ups. Though I'd hard disagree with 'weak visuals' the stylization they used is significantly more appealing than a majority of its contemporaries. Anyways, I'd grant the reintroduction of Weapon Master like mode to the game (Something that has been lacking for a good while and with no replacement since 3.) Despite the lack of modes, I feel like it does run with what it has quite well. Arcade is very much arcade. Though what used to be tied to them in character endings as for the most part been replaced by Soul Chronicle. (Not a fan, but it technically gets the job done.) Likewise it goes hard on Libra of the Soul (weapon master) Character creator while objectively worse than V. It's still fine and you still have the potential to get really creative. And while I'm the first person to 100% dog the game for having DLC being returning characters and no one new, at the very least they're very fun to play with. All of them are just plain fun to use. And that's the best thing I could ask for in a fighting game. Even if I wish they took more risks. Alas, hopefully it would be addressed in a SC7 if we're that lucky. Though I'm of the opinion that literally every other aspect of the game is worse than its predecessors, I gotta take what we can get. It's at the very least better than 4 and 5. And on the right track for a sequel to fix all of said game's issues.

[@zachataxxii7126]

Remember how Nightmare is actually Raphael in this game & Viola is also Amy, and not only does this get 0 mention in story mode, but the only way you'd know the former was if you took off his helmet in creation? Or how literally every characters backstory save for the protags are never explained in game, so you'd never know things like Xianghua's kids are actually half-siblings, Natsu is possessed by a demon that Taki failed to kill, Astaroth in this game is actually a mass-produced model made from the corpse of the original's death in 4, and plenty more. Instead, the focus are on a pair of twins so bad, one of the plot points in SC6 (Cassandra's story, specifically) is trying to PREVENT them from being born.

[@oLucasElder]

How does she prevent and why? (Storywise, of course, because we know they are boring)

[@swinelias]

@@oLucasElder the way she knows how to prevent it is because she fought with her original timeline version (which was trapped in astral chaos) and therefore tries to take Sophitia's role in protecting others, and why you ask? Because if she doesn't, she'll fail in saving her sister, and having their family broken into pieces (just like her og timeline version).

[@swinelias]

@@christhedicemaniac4318 yeah 😔

[@Leon-857]

I'm so happy to know other people know this. As a Raph main I loved the story take of him being Nightmares next host, considered he's why Sieg was freed in the first place. Dramatic irony

[@countlazuli8753]

There is a fanfiction story called "Raphael Sorel's Endless Warfare" written by ThalieXVII. It tells the story of how Raphael lost Amy and searched for her even through his possession as Graf Dumas and Nightmare. Calling it a fanfiction may be a disservice as the story follows both the canon and true historical events incredibly faithfully. It has the length and quality writing of a professional novel. The ending takes a different route from the canon but a bit of a more appropriate one if you ask me. This story isn't just another head canon put on paper, but the work of someone who did an incredible amount of research and it deserves all the readers it can get.

[@anthonybehan6031]

I remember when Soul Caliber VI released I was like, "When did Soul Caliber V come out?!"

[@hurricanekicka]

Dude....i legit forgot there was a 5 when i got this notification

[@barubary218]

I'm the reverse. I was like huh I guess V was the last game makes sense it was kind of a trash heap... wait when the fuck did VI come out? 2b was in it 0_O

[@zevzero]

There was a Soul Caliber 6??

[@JoninJordan]

I STILL do that and I played a bunch of SC6 lol

[@chinad34th]

Is it that hard to write Calibur instead of Caliber?

[@kaiosamatlj4031]

You know what bothers me about Patroklos (besides EVERYTHING else)? Is that in the story they make this big fuss that his fighing style is a "pale imitation" of his mother, and that he should look into himself to find who he really is, hence why there's Alpha Patroklos. The problem is that, to give him some credit (and it's the ONLY credit I give him), his style and stance as regular Patroklos is completely distinct from Sophitia, or at least I can't see nothing on him that would qualify him as a "clone". And what Alpha Patroklos (who's supposed to be his "true self") style is? A clone of Setsuka. Yeah...

[@Seven7swords]

Yeah, as a Setsuka main, that was salt in the wound. I did't like either of the twins. They both took from my two favorite characters, Setsuka and Cassandra.

[@chipslight738]

I agree. Despite a lot of shit thrown at the twins, I always thought Patroklos had a lot of personality in his moveset. A lot of his moves had a lot of flair and acrobatics (66B+K is the best exemple) and were very indicative of how full of himself he truly was. Hell, even his stance shows that : he's not even guarding and holding his sword in a way his arm would quickly tire. He's so keen on thinking he's this paragon of justice that his form is terrible, it's great imo.

[@ZaxFSO8083]

Yea I’ve never understood the complaint about his fighting style, I saw no major gameplay comparisons

[@boredomkiller99]

The idea was that he was apparently trained by Setsuka before V and so sword drawing is his real fighting style but he uses a sword and shield even though he has no training in it purposely nerfing himself due to mommy issues. Of course the stuff about Setsuka was not in the f***ing game but in side material that revealed stuff like how Mitsrugi abandoned his relic stance after seeing Setsuka's skills and almost being killed by them causing him to consider his own sword drawing a farce and deciding to focus on his OG techinques.

[@Maijson]

The biggest disappointment of SC6 was that his moveset wasn't represented anywhere. Yeah, he sucked, but he was a ton of fun to play as.

[@sunzilla2103]

Another huge problem (as least for me) was they ended previous characters' stories really badly. Xianghua stands out in particular. She has a kid with Kilik, abandons the kid, goes along with an arranged marriage, then turns into a stereotypical upper-class wife who tries to force her daughter to be a stereotypical upper-class wife as well. I was so upset when I first read about it. It was such an offensive way to end her character.

[@wardensurana8336]

And none of that is mentioned in-game, you need to read material on internet (the easiest way at least) to learn about it.

[@SpScarletSpider]

@@gunengineering1338 Taki has it good actually. I believe she trains Natsu as her apprentice.

[@88Manel88]

It was so out of character like it went against everything she represented 😭😭😭

[@definitelynotapervert5602]

There is no way in hell Xianghua would ever do that to Kilik or her daughter. She would probably do the opposite. Such an insulting direction to take her character. 😩

[@trelltastic67]

Yeah, it sucks when your favorite character's entire characterization and arc gets thrown into the dirt like that😞

[@SavageGreywolf]

"whenever Patroklos isn't on screen, all the other characters should be asking, 'Where's Patroklos?'" - a Namco Bandai exec, probably

[@swinelias]

The Gary stu fenomenon.

[@Silburific]

"When are they gonna get to the fireworks factory?!"- players

[@fernie-fernandez]

The future can be unpredictable…

[@wildansaladin8728]

They should've made a character named Hector who will always win against Patroklos. lol

[@KaiKrimson56]

Steven Universe's storytelling in a nutshell.

[@imp360]

I remember playing the story and one of the first cutscenes had Patroklos murder a man just cause his skin was pale and I was like "oh were playing as the villain" nope just a easily manipulated dumbass.

[@swinelias]

Literally some chapters later he said he's a "hOlY WaRrIoR" yet he killed a man just because he was sus.

[@ChargeQM]

If he had just been a villain, it would have been more acceptable. Like, you really can't justify the level of unaware-ness Patroklos had considering his upbringing. Could have been less silly if he knew he was seen as a villain, but he just KNOWS those people need to die for the good of everyone.

[@autobotstarscream765]

@@swinelias "Holy Warrior" = genocidal terrorist in Japan Logic.

[@TheMaestroMizerous]

"Stupid malfested!" - Sasuke Uchiha

[@baileypalmer103]

@@swinelias to be fair, the higher church was pretty damn sus back in ancient times.

[@TrashbashMan]

Yoda was the worst guest character they could possibly have, not because it's Yoda but because of the mechanics they gave him. He was the ultimate ''C'mon man don't be a bitch'' fighter in the entire roster

[@Noperare]

When a fighting character is so short most attacks won't land on him, that breaks the game

[@Ch35h1r3C47]

@@Noperare That piece of trash couldn't be grabbed either. People used to complain at me when i just spammed vertical or low attacks when they picked him. What the hell else am i meant to do? YOU picked a broken character!

[@agrubohub4009]

And Starkiller in 4 made you say "oh yeah those games happened"

[@Stout936]

Odd-job all over again

[@ToaArcan]

That's a proud tradition for Yoda in any PvP game. Fucker was a nightmare in OG Battlefront II. Half the time he didn't even kill you, he just force pushed and pulled you until someone else killed you or him.

[@KarosuMaker]

I'll never forget SCV for killing Sophitia offscreen, arguably the original hero of the franchise. That could have been at least a heartbreaking cinematic at the start.

[@Omega-jg4oq]

She is quite iconic character.. being the Holy female warrior chosen by the gods to destroy Soul Edge and a good mother to protect her children and her family, that’s poetic..

[@chronoplague]

Patrokolos: “don’t worry Pyrrha, I’ll accept you for who you are!” Bro, she’s possessed by a demon sword…

[@blyat8832]

"I'll accept you" also him, runs away after she saves him from nightmare, and tries to kill her right after

[@zirconst]

Hey, I worked on the music to this game! I composed Natsu's theme, Zwei's theme, the character creation and a few other things. I could tell some stories from the music team end...

[@MrSoopSA]

Go for it!

[@kholdkhaos64ray11]

👀 DO TELL DO TELL DO TELL 👀

[@shadowpiplup]

Tell us you stories please

[@kelixbro3456]

Whoa, dang didnt you make music for the Raze flash games too?

[@chickenblood94]

Y'all killed it in the soundtrack department. If only the same could be said for the story. I know the main characters are Greek, but I'm getting some, let's say, Alabama vibes from them.

[@SnipeMD]

*Patroklos' shield gets broken. Patroklos: "Guess I'll kill my sister now."

[@personaissleepy]

Yep this is indeed Patroklos.

[@garminbozia]

Based?

[@garminbozia]

@@gantz22ify based

[@shadowednight1600]

Patroklos: a main character so vile that a reboot was needed just to avoid alienating the player base

[@JoninJordan]

I mean, whaddya gonna do. *Not?*

[@LeroyOctopus]

I remember reading a preview for SC V in a magazine (EGM, I think) during development. The dev team was talking about how the 2011 earthquakes were also a huge hurdle, because the studio had to work while conserving power. I'm surprised I never heard it brought up anywhere else when the game is talked about. Really makes the rushed release date even more ridiculous.

[@GenerationWest]

I never realized how long ago 5 was, or how far apart 6 was to 5. Like the only thing I remember about it was the inclusion was Ezio Auditore, with his awesome theme which was a remix of Venice Rooftops. Wait, only ONE new character was added to the roster?! So they gave up hard.

[@SuperNuclearUnicorn]

Ok but how cool was Ezio. You could add him to any game ever and he'd be cool as heck. We should start a petition to get him in Smash or something

[@EZOnTheEyes]

@@SuperNuclearUnicorn There's Altair's robes as a Mii Costume in SSBU. Maybe they could add in future assassin's robes or something.

[@chestbumphero]

If i remember correctly for some of the box arts they really wanted to sell the presence of Ezio in the game which was partially why some of my friends bought the game

[@SuperNuclearUnicorn]

@@EZOnTheEyes really? I haven't played Ultimate that much (don't hurt me)

[@Some_Cat_]

@@SuperNuclearUnicorn Yeah but that would mean giving money to screwbisoft 🤢

[@JT-xp8hx]

I never realized it was 6 years in between SC5 and SC6. It felt a lot longer to me.

[@geoxev9423]

Same, it felt like it was 8 years.

[@michaelflatt4663]

You're telling me. Life's a trip.

[@MrFutago87]

Didn't realize 2012 had so many duds, it's like the next 2003.

[@agrubohub4009]

2013 and 2014 were full of them as well.

[@jarrodeaston6373]

Not really. 2003 had kotor, beyond good and evil, Prince of Persia sands of time, Max Payne 2, Tony hawk underground 1, ssx 3 and need for speed underground, gta vice city, jak 2, ratchet and clank 2, burnout 2 point of impact and F-zero gx

[@iranoutofspacefornam]

@@jarrodeaston6373 And Simpsons Hit & Run!

[@jarrodeaston6373]

@@iranoutofspacefornam Oh yeah! Forgot that one as well🤣

[@JoninJordan]

Wha Happun - The End of the World in 2012

[@andrewhill3278]

"Now when you're talking about fighting games and pushing forward.. well that could mean a lot of things." Not really. You just move closer to your opponent.

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

Just like in shows and movies, timeskips don't always work out for the best story-wise. Meanwhile I personally adored Soul Calibur IV as a game and spent the majority of my time playing that back in the day.

[@jetsettech8804]

4? Man screw Hilda. You can keep that crap

[@sophitiaofhyrule]

@@jetsettech8804 What do you mean? Hilde was awesome! She was a badass knight lady that wore actual armor instead of walking around in lingerie like the other female characters. Practical armor is hot!

[@jetsettech8804]

@@sophitiaofhyrule please. I'm not going to sit here and believe their armor is practical, but I'll be damned if I said it wasn't nice to look at.

[@harrylane4]

@@jetsettech8804hilde is cool it’s ok to be wrong

[@sonicmaiden2871]

I actually enjoyed playing Soul Calibur V for the creation feature alone. I had a lot of fun recreating anime characters and fighting against each other. 😅

[@TaoScribble]

Creating characters was all I did with the game. Actually playing it just frustrated me back to playing SC2.

[@BigEOT3]

Creating characters was great, the issue was a lot more problematic stuff

[@Dante-Balisk]

I also liked the character creation. Unfortunately, on online play kept getting people who made dck-like designs.

[@personaissleepy]

I miss the 5 cc system. It feels downsized 6 a little.

[@aaronyoung20]

@@Dante-Balisk Maybe they were compensating for one and i know they wanted to T-bag you but lost.

[@oscarzxn4067]

Dead or Alive 6 would be a great fighting game for wha happun, considering it's rushed and bad story mode, nonsensical and inconsistent tone down of the fanservice, lack of modes from previous entries, bad DLC and stopping getting support after only 1 year while the gacha Xtreme spin off for PC has been getting updates for 4 years now, and it's director quit Koei Tecmo some months ago as the cherry on the cake.

[@sketch92]

And the costumes, dont forget the low selection of costumes in the base game and how to get them, you know you've done something wrong when Sonic Forces did it right with its costumes aand how it get them..

[@vgc_ivan8391]

Hoping for that. Man DoA6 is just a huge letdown

[@vgc_ivan8391]

@@Ineedgames along a dollar fee to change hair style/color pre change. Till they drop it

[@asianjackass237]

The short answer: Sony and EVO fucked them over "core values hurr"

[@imlpz]

@@asianjackass237 Not really. Most of the problems are from Team Ninja/KT decisions. Not having online lobbies at launch while also announcing a $100 season pass (because priorities right...). Not having the tag mode from previous games. The stupid unlocking system for costumes. Post launch even had the stupidity of charging real money to change hair colors even for colors you already paid for, so I guess it was more like renting colors, instead of the in game currency that anybody still playing at that point probably had nothing to use on. Most of the problems of the game just come off as the game only existing to continue DOA5’s DLC campaign. Heck, one of DLC characters for 6 was one that was DLC for Last Round.

[@sebanatic]

Got this game for 5 bucks back in 2014. Had a lot of fun with a couple friends just making absurd characters

[@drewski103]

😂😂😂 you said words lmaoooooo 🤣😂😭😂😂

[@Blur4strike]

That's about the price it was worth.

[@IndigoPhoenix21]

Best things about SCV were the soundtrack and Devil Jin style. Sacred Dawn is one of my favorite tracks in the entire series.

[@samfivedot]

Zwei and Viola were super cool and interesting though, I don't know why they weren't the main characters instead

[@ChargeQM]

Viola would have made for a very interesting story, as Raphael lost his soul to Soul Edge in the pursuit of helping Amy, so now Amy (as Viola) is trying to help Raphael break free and be his old self again. Make her 'good' ending result in freeing Raphael, and her 'bad' ending has her willfully join with Soul Edge to be reunited with Raphael, causing the sword to fall dormant as Raphael has no desire to gain more power anymore.

[@SeventhheavenDK]

@@ChargeQM . It seemed more that Viola was going to defect to Raphael. There is a cut voice line of ZWEI where he says "Where is Viola? Answer me!" And Project Soul refers to Viola as an antagonist, even when she never showed any antagonistic traits in-game.

[@fatedcircle5379]

This!!

[@TeamTowers1]

Does Viola really count as a new character? Given how she's allways been implied to be Amy.

[@geoxev9423]

She does have a brand new move set so I say that counts.

[@MattRogan28]

Amy's story in SoulCalibur 6 at right confirm that Viola is Amy

[@omnigrohk4440]

And Z.W.E.I. used a lot of Spawn's moves too.

[@SeventhheavenDK]

More than implied, I would say, especially with SC6 Amy's ending.

[@walabixha1746]

@@SeventhheavenDK and it was never brought up again and we didint get viola in sc6. They could bring her like the brought the alternative timeline cass

[@circusmonster415]

Fun fact: The story of Soulcalibur V onward was planned all the way up to the hypothetical ninth title had the reboot in VI not happened. And now 5 is seen as a bad future in the new timeline that must be avoided, which is probably deserves to be called.

[@tympestbooks1727]

That is both impressive and incredibly sad. Here's hoping they can incorporate some of it in SC6's timeline eventually.

[@KingKP96]

It's insane to think how different the series could've been if SCV was given another 5-6 months in development. I loved playing the game, but only for the character customization and online private lobby system. That shit was super fun with friends to see what kind of ridiculous/cool stuff we could come up with.

[@Jebbtube]

It's very telling that most of the character cuts were women, particularly ones who'd be well into their middle age years by this point in the story.

[@EmperorGladiatuss]

And the only one that is old, Ivy, ages but doesn't change appearance because soul edge shard or something.

[@xxigeorge]

Tekken is very much guilty of this too. Namco's "laws" apparently dictate that if female fighters get dangerously close to their mid-30s they either need to have a baby, have a disciple or stop aging through some bullshit way.

[@agrubohub4009]

@@xxigeorge Characters in Tekken stopped aging since 4.In fact all the games might take place in the same year because they stopped updating the ages

[@xxigeorge]

@@agrubohub4009 they still kept Nina and Anna looking like they're in their 20s despite both being in their 40s, Michelle adopted Julia, Kunimitsu was replaced by her daughter and Jun was replaced by Asuka. Characters did get older in 4 by two years but then 5, 6 and 7 all take place in the same year as 4, possibly so that they would not have to find any more excuses for keeping the ladies young or replacing them lol.

[@oscarzxn4067]

@@xxigeorge I think that's kind of a Japan stuff of women older than 25 or so not being considered young and as such not as attractive anymore, that's the reason why for example most DOA girls are all around 18-21 at most despite some of them looking at least 3 years older than that, so it's just a number thing.

[@agrubohub4009]

An entry so underwhelming that people forgot it even came out. Too bad because it had a good guest star, Ezio. Which fits better unlike other entries. Namco and Capcom sure didn't have a good reputation back in the early 2010s

[@slayer-22]

6 has Geralt, who fits far better imo.

[@__BlankStudios]

I would like to see you talk about arguably the most controversial Tales game, Tales of Zesteria, which is somewhat fitting for celebrating Tales of Arise's already being a success.

[@__BlankStudios]

@@JimTheKnight01 A lot. It was the last game Baba worked on before leaving Bamco too. The game was mixed received but had worse reactions in Japan to the point it was called the "Gundam SEED" of Tales. Some of what went wrong can be pointed at the flawed open world system and cameras but the marketing of the game and a particular character, Alisha and her DLC, as well as the controversy of the anime adaptation just being a cash cow advertisement with Berseria characters added in for hype and the laughable ending that Baba seemed to have took from a fanfic (not even halfly joking) were the real earthquakes before he left (and then vanished again after his studio was shut down by Square Enix before even getting to one game) and joined Delightworks where he is now reported to be allegedly "hard to work with" and was the reason why SEGA's Sakura Taisen mobile game got the axe only after nearly a year of release...

[@__BlankStudios]

@@leithazizpagy4699 It's already the most successful Tales launch of all time with the PC concurrent player base totalling over the Berseria, Zesteria, and ToS Chronicles' combined.

[@MrSoopSA]

@@leithazizpagy4699 Been a fan since Symphonia was released on the GCN; Arise is a pretty good game.

[@MrSoopSA]

@@__BlankStudios That’s all very interesting. Makes me wonder just what went down at Square Enix. Even Balan Wonderworld got a release, just how bad must it have been working with Baba?

[@Demi-kid]

I hate that this was the first tales game I played and it felt hella hollow.

[@cinemastan6375]

'She shows up once, but still' *show still image of Ivy* DAMN YOU MCMUSCLES

[@Aisha_Gii]

Matt: **has a skeleton as his avatar** Also Matt: 0:47

[@BigEOT3]

Matt McMuscles is the real Skeleton Warrior

[@kankeydong2500]

*real life skeleton spooks itself*

[@KaiKrimson56]

I wonder how he'd react to playing as a Revenant in Doom Eternal?

[@SB0083]

Positives: Ezio Auditore was an amazing addition and literally the reason I bought the CE. Negatives: Everything else. Patroklus and his sister had a weird incest vibe to it too.

[@jbktpl1245]

Really?! I never got an incest vibe from those two specifically.... I did get an incest vibe from Patroklus when it came to Elysium though....

[@JohnDoe-uf3lj]

Viola was pretty hot too.

[@ChargeQM]

@@JohnDoe-uf3lj Raphael would agree with you.

[@drewski103]

Japanese love a good incest story

[@encyclopediaespx1128]

Glad someone else said it, to this day my best friend and I like to compare the incest vibes we got from those two to other sibilant story arcs in media. “Can’t be as bad as hatred fueled incest.”

[@mikeoxmaul4685]

My first SoulCalibur game was V and I enjoyed it, a lot. Not the story mode tho, but the fighting mechanics.

[@personaissleepy]

SC5 was pretty cool Viola and Zwei's play styles were really cool, and so was it's character creation. But it's story was kinda of a slog.... Also who removes Zazlamel in a game involving a time skip when he's immortal!?

[@Narokkurai]

Oh nooooo. I actually really like SCV, but I totally understand why it got so much hate. I thought the underlying fighting system was great, but there was no getting around how rushed and unfocused the narrative was. It was, as the kids say, "a bad look".

[@Narokkurai]

@Mr Mistah Eh, Ezio was kinda underwhelming. He only had a handful of viable moves if you wanted to be competitive, everything else was generally weak or gimmicky.

[@supertimerip]

Same tbh

[@SeventhheavenDK]

I also like the game, especially Viola, but it is true the game is lacking.

[@Narokkurai]

@@gantz22ify Arguably, you're supposed to recognize that he's a very flawed person and has a lot of darkness in his own heart that he needs to work through but... it's still pretty extreme. There's "flawed protagonist" and then there's a protagonist who literally introduces himself by committing crimes against civilians. It's uh... it's bad, Bob.

[@MrShinTensei]

Loved it lol

[@Wolfedge75]

The SC2 music is what made me stay. But honestly, SCV was where I think single-player content in fighting games start to decline, culminating in SFV’s launch. Judging from Strive, seems that devs still haven’t learnt that lesson.

[@Wolfedge75]

@@leithazizpagy4699 At least SFV had an arcade mode eventually. BBTAG, on the other hand... Hoo boy..

[@boredomkiller99]

Apparently Strive they did plan on having more single player content but the delays from Covid effed them. Heard the plan on adding more stuff. Here is hoping we get something in October.

[@tmma1869]

Which is why some casuals don't like newer fighting games: excessive focus on online play only is not always favored

[@NSFSponsor]

@@Wolfedge75 BBTag had a story mode at launch tho at the very least. SFV only had survival.

[@Wolfedge75]

@@NSFSponsor SFV did have a story mode at launch. Just not the cinematic one.

[@paladinrook]

Man, I'm so sad that SCVI didn't get a 3rd season. Such a good game. I hope another title is in the works.

[@bulletchains8205]

might take a few years into the next gen but yeah, same here

[@rogaken]

@@bulletchains8205 yeah a little after the next Tekken game.

[@BlueSky-ls5qy]

2032 i guess

[@fatedcircle5379]

It was a mediocre game, maybe decent at best.

[@alexmendez3681]

@@fatedcircle5379 I agree. SCVI is the worst one. I would prefer to play Five any day.

[@alicequeenofmadness9995]

It's such a shame about SCV. The mechnics, Z.W.E.I, Viola, and the Create a Character were all phenomenal. But as a casual gamer I was so disappointed by how there is literally NOTHING to do in SCV. I love III, IV and VI so much because of all the alternate options besides story mode which V doesn't really have. Also the roster as everyone else has mentioned since the game came out has so many issues. Most of the returning characters deserved their spots, but there were some who should not have been left out. Also HATE how they gave "a

[@Mateus_Carvalho]

Still think Patroklos, in particular, was a piss take.

[@zeroattentiongaming820]

Yes Soul Calibur was king for single player content since before it was called Soul Calibur and 3 arguably went overboard with it (which is why I love it). This one just felt so empty, so little reason to pick it up again and being that I didn't really like the changes, it offered nothing to keep me playing long enough to possibly rethink my opinion of the gameplay changes like I had with 4. Put at least a hundred hours into Edge, 2, 3, 4 and 6 is getting there but I played 5 for a week and never touched it again.

[@F__F812]

Man i miss Z.W.E.I gróh is meh xD

[@ShaimingLong]

A friend and I am still waiting for Team Battle to come back. It was our preferred mode to play back on the Dreamcast.

[@jdotglenn]

@@ShaimingLong It terrible...does any modern fighting game have Team Battle? I know Smash has squad strike, maybe KoF?

[@typojoemmxxiv]

Wha Happun: Final Fantasy XV

[@Houldey]

Okubo just recently left the team, I think he said he was going back into education or something (said on his Twitter), so I think it's fair to say SC is back on ice. I'm just happy we got SC6 and Okubo & his team really clearly had their hearts in the right place - it was a great entry in a series I wasn't sure we'd see again after SC5.

[@wylser]

The worst part is that both brother and sister had a good character design only for it to be wasted on such bad writing.

[@cordellriemer5177]

I had fun with Soul calibur V's creation mode, that's where I made my OC.

[@pavise6333]

The best part of the game. Glad they expanded it even further in VI

[@cordellriemer5177]

Oh yeah my OC's name is Rellida, she's a demon.

[@goozygo102]

What's awesome about Soulcalibur 6 is that they incorporate some of 5 parts into the story. So they managed to bring it back I hope the series will continue on

[@nightmarishcompositions4536]

Patrick Star: Let’s take all the great characters everybody loves… AND PUSH THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE!

[@RoIand]

I like how Cassandra addresses the events of SCV as "the bad ending" in her story mode in SCVI. To be fair, the game was decent, I played a lot back then (online mostly), but the lackluster and super short story mode was a bummer for me. Also, the lack of offline modes and small roster of fighters are worthy of criticism. The core gameplay was good and every character played differently (except the mimics ofc), so I don't consider it a failure, but everything that came before and even after (looking at you SCVI) is so much better in everysingle way.

[@MrLordAzkar]

I was completely overcome with nostalgia listening to some of my favourite SC2 tracks. Great video Matt, and props to the editor!

[@spongebobfan78]

16:11 Not gonna lie, I thought Soul Reverse was connected to the Soul series. The logo didn't help either.

[@downrightdreaming_5630]

Man I felt that abandon Ip line when I saw Darkstalkers in there. Maybe one day….

[@onigames7309]

Hopefully. Honestly getting abit fatigued of SF. I love it and all, but Capcom has many other Fighting games to work with.

[@Graysett]

There are many things you can say about SC5, but the thing that I always remember it for is getting me into the band Lazy Habits because of the promo Namco had them do. "Bulletin" playing to that mural of Pat facing off against Nightmare will never leave my mind.

[@2jeswd]

SCV lacked something IV had. Can't really put it in words... I guess IV felt darker and more difficult > more rewarding after mastering characters. Viola is an amazing character and such a fun one to play as. I mastered her immediately and I'm very sad she or the gameplay didn't make it to the newest game. Also the customization in V was a great improvement.

[@binkyboy448]

Viola technically did make it into SC6, though not her gameplay, if you know what I mean.

[@michaelmills8205]

Does 2012 deserve a "What Happened?" All of it's own?

[@agrubohub4009]

2012 was such a mess of a year and the start where things got more weird and insane, maybe those mayans were right

[@swinelias]

@@agrubohub4009 yeah, maybe we misinterpreted their message: 2012 wasn't gonna be the end of the world, but rather, the beginning of the end.

[@awal8015]

Games that had big time jumps: 1. Soul Calibur V 2. Street Fighter 3 3. Tekken 3 4. Mortal Kombat X Notice how one of those were in this series and one of them are gonna be in this series? Hmmmmm....

[@treelicker2145]

Don't know why you're talking about DMC 2 considering every single DMC game has a time jump and DMC 2 doesn't even have the longest one...

[@awal8015]

@@treelicker2145 oh sorry I don't know the dmc lore I'm gonna take it off the list. Thanks for the heads up

[@DrLegitimate]

At least SCV had Aeon in it - the lack of the Lizard is SCVI's greatest sin.

[@Mxsfit11Six]

I grew up with Soul Edge so thank you for playing the intro theme at the end 😆🔥⚔🛡

[@lukeyes]

wow, been watching this channel for a while, and this is the first time a game I worked on showed up (Shinobi 3DS), even if it was in the abandoned IP dungeon. Man, if I can ever figure out a way out of those NDA's I signed, I'd have some stories to tell about the development of that one.

[@xxigeorge]

Literally the other day I was thinking if you were gonna do SoulCalibur V! I'm almost ashamed to say that I didn't mind Patroklos and Pyrrha that much but they were definitely a downgrade from Sophitia, Cassandra and Setsuka. Xiba was kinda fun but also a downgrade over Kilik... But... Natsu and Leixia were much more interesting than Taki and Xianghua imo 👀

[@StrayLion]

I remember commenting "Do SC5" last year, and I'm none-disappointed that you finally covered it. Thanks Matt.

[@KramerBebop]

Yes, KOF 12 (and arguably 13) please! Such an interesting case!

[@matthewpulama106]

Add KOF 2001 to the "Wha Happun?" pile as well! That game has an interesting (more like wasted) history behind it's development stemming from SNK's bankruptcy and the plans SNK had for the game that sadly never got implemented. Not just that, but when SNK got to continue doing the series again for KOF 2003, some things from 2001 were removed from canon as well.

[@darkmask5933]

The best Soul Calibur for me will always be 2, for the sole reason it had the best guest characters. Also, can you do a video on Dissidia NT? I've love a deep dive into the capstone of the previously successful PSP series that crashed and burned with its hi definition release!

[@kevinwillians6199]

I would kill for a Dissidia remaster/remake for the Switch, yet they go for that 3v3 bs, why Square, why???

[@SeventhheavenDK]

Oh my, Dissidia NT, another sad story, I still play a lot of 012 even nowadays.

[@rg1124nov]

Dude Dissidia was my life back in the day. Preordered NT and was massively disappointed

[@fatedcircle5379]

Yes, it is always the same. And the only true reason SC2 was successful, the guests and not the game itself.

[@killSeal]

I actually liked Pyrrha Omega. 'GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!'

[@timbonetonight.4416]

I'm so happy that you did this episode. I really didn't enjoy this game. And I'm already the only person in my friend group that plays this series. So I didnt really have anyone else to ask to see what they thought. I've always wanted to know why the game played like it did.

[@ultrasparrow]

I never knew SC5 had this many issues because my friends and I loved it. It was the only Soul Calibur game we were into though, so all of the issues with the characters didn't affect us.

[@captainmalice]

I remember being excited for this game as a kid all because Ezio was in the roster. I didn't even play Assassins' Creed as a kid.

[@qq13563817153]

@Code Turtle Ezio's master assassin robes has always looked good in every game it appeared in

[@luzmaria5006]

Soul Calibur 3 Chronicles of the Sword mode is to this day the best mode that ever graced a Fighting game. And for this reason is objectively the best Soul Calibur ever. Oh yah soul Calibur 5 is a sad tale.

[@Zetact_]

I actually really like Patroklos' design, moveset and the character development he got but cramming it all in such an underdeveloped story mode doesn't work. Also it's weird that SCV had a better character customization mode than 6. Because 6 cut out the majority of the items and didn't even bring them back as DLC, opting instead for just adding cosplay outfits. There were custom characters I was building in every game from 3 to 5 that I needed to completely reinvent for 6 because of how sparse the selection was.

[@GReyn]

Lol same.. at least i played it in PC and has mod 😂

[@lonewolf50986]

Another great vid. And you gotta love using maxs music at the end, fitting and fun.

[@JordanGrimmer]

SoulCalibur 5 was probably one of my biggest gaming disappointments. The new characters felt tacked on, the combat felt weirdly floaty and the main story was boring. Sophitia will always be my main, so following her kids could have been cool, but they were whiny and dull. I honestly thought SoulCalibur would never come back.

[@PhyreI3ird]

If you mean the clone charcters, sure, but Viola was fucking awesome. I loved setting up weird combos with her, and was actually kinda disappointed to not see her in 6.

[@JordanGrimmer]

@@PhyreI3ird Yeah definitely, the clone characters, the other actual new ones were good.

[@Leadblast]

@@PhyreI3ird hah. Viola was a broken OP piece of shite, that's why you "loved" her. Shame on you. Gtfo cheater without dignity.

[@PhyreI3ird]

@@Leadblast Oh dear I am wounded by thy words, O mighty blast of lead. Please spare me thine judgements so harsh! My soul cans't not bear it!

[@ROYBGP]

PhyreI3ird Viola was unbelievably broken. One of the most busted fighting game characters of all time. I'm very very glad she got dropped.

[@Bretillia]

What sucks is like, I do like the new characters. Natsu's straight up my favorite SC character. I'm just big sad they'll probably never come back now

[@ryanyoung9463]

Taki

[@Bretillia]

@@ryanyoung9463 never fucked with Taki, but Natsu for some reason I just had a ton of fun w. Idk enough abt Taki to know what's different between their moves but Natsu just has my favorite shit

[@pureevil9496]

@@Bretillia Natsu rocks

[@Wolfedge75]

Now that you mentioned it, she WAS in Project X Zone 2....

[@Bretillia]

@@Wolfedge75 yeah and she had some of the best dialogue

[@ColoniaContraAtaca]

I just binge watch all your channel, you're great Matt!

[@Esgoneverevers]

Oi wilso

[@LeafarBlade]

Virsu?!

[@mikeoxmaul4685]

Mister Wilson!!!!!!!!! OMFG

[@brendongame2543]

VIRSU?

[@MissMedeiros]

A lá o Virso

[@ChaosZero1031]

Sophitia: "Screw this game I'm gonna go meet up with some of the Ninja Gaiden/DOA cast to be in Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate."

[@TheGogonator]

Not only the roster, they also cut the returning character move sets by at least a third of what they had in SCIV and then they hid the remaining fun moves behind an energy bar system :( It just wasn't as fun anymore.

[@mauimallard154]

You missed the three filler characters that were EXACT SAME: KILIK, ELYSIUM and Edgemaster! Exactly the SAME stupid random styles! This was SO insulting...

[@dasetman]

well, Kilik was man only, Elysium was female only and had her own CE and Edgemaster was everyone.

[@Denothorm]

This one hurt me. I had been super excited for it. It was just missing so much content… I don’t think it was all bad though. My favorite character in all Soul Calibur to play as was introduced. Omega Pyrrha was a blast and I am sad neither her or any of the V characters were in VI.

[@MultiBoxingKid]

Yeah, I wanna see her back too. Except for Patrokolas, fuck that guy.

[@rxzero00]

I would like to see a What Happened? episode on Sonic Colors Ultimate in the future (don't know how far or close) since there's so much controversy surrounding that "remaster" alone.

[@Warhawk0602]

I actually liked the Omega version of Pyrrha, and is one of my fav characters/movesets, but man this game got done dirty in development. Hope 6 lets them see people still want this series.

[@James-gj8rn]

I was wondering what the next one would be, I remember getting the Collectors Edition back in, i think, 2012 😊

[@lenerlink]

SoulCalibur V was my first Soul Calibur game...and what got me into the series.

[@Aerynnh]

I think alpha patrokolos was especially bad because he literally has Setsuka's moveset. When they could have literally just added setsuka back lol.

[@draegorschwarzlowen1916]

I keep thinking that SCV was like that edgy teen phase, and then Lost Swords was like struggling with senior high and college and Unbreakable Soul was like falling down the slippery slope, without a clear image of yourself engraved onto your soul. Fortunately, Soulcalibur VI came after, which is the equivalent of accepting yourself and maturing into a wise adult. Yes, I know not everyone goes through the same path in life, but this is a rough equivalent. Who knows what the future may bring, for us, and for the Soul series? For now, all we can do is to bide our time and bet our souls on the future. And if you're hoping to jump into Soulcalibur/Tekken/etc., don't wait! After all, it's better to have fought and lost than to have not fought at all.

[@SwiftieLuma]

Imagine being Sophitia , not only dying for your duty but also having children that ended up being total jerks and wimps ... whoever developed the story of SCV really hated her so much, nobody cant tell me otherwise.

[@onilao]

Great video man, SC 2, 3 and 6 are my fav in the series, i was so happy to see my girl taki come back! :D

[@Xurkey]

Great video! I do want to chime in that I love SC5, and thought the new cast was very interesting. I hope someday to see some return.

[@staticshock4239]

It's funny that Patroklos is said to be a clone of Sophitia but his fighting is actually not like his mom's. In fact, the one that is most like Sophitia in fighting style is his sister Pyrrha.

[@Dslite45]

I remember picking up SCV not long after it released since the Soul Calibur games were popular with my friends during 2009-2012 whenever we had all-night gaming sessions at my house. The longtime Kilik main was disappointed that his boy had turned into a mimic boss character and I don't think anyone messed with the Create-A-Soul that night. Compare that to III and IV, where my friends put hours into my save file to unlock more parts and weapons for their sexy women custom characters. I even made a catgirl in IV who had the same name as a friend's sister lol. Good times

[@CreditR01]

Worst new protagonists, screwed over several of the old favorites by writing them out in the worst ways possible, botched or missing story modes, extremely thin staff to work on it--it was functional, but not exactly fun. I have my beef with 6 but it was much better overall and I'm glad the series didn't crash and burn out. I admired the idea behind Patroklos being an asshole who needed to go on a journey to grow the hell up and out of his selfish, zealous ways, but his own game didn't give him enough time to do that, and the weird narrative choices didn't help. Also they made him a little *too* obsessed with his own family.

[@onigames7309]

Yeah, that would've been interesting to see. Him becoming more humble as his journey progressed. And yeah, he did seem a bit TOO obsessed with Pyrrha. Then again, he didn't see her in years since they were toddlers, and the rest of his family was either gone or dead.

[@coolman5242]

Honestly I liked the idea of a "new generation" in fighting games as long as they keep the older characters or at least the spirit of the older characters(i.e. the Kombat Kids in MKX) in some form.

[@strepsilsaregood4u]

never was there a fighting game with a more detestable protagonist

[@Beforezzz]

Devil Jin style, CAC, and me being able to play any audio from my ps3 in the background were the best things about V. As much crap as SC4 gets, I'd fight and say that it was better in quality and was aesthetically a much *cooler* game.

[@ephramwest8368]

You really get to the gooey center of these kinds of situations *chefs kiss*

[@RoosterLewis]

That game just oozes good memories of custom characters and self created tournaments. That being said I never touched the story mode and had literally no previous nostalgia for the series, so grain of salt there.

[@Stay_ClassyYT]

Same here slightly. I still remember great moments from SCV where thankfully that did started my intrest of playing it more at the time along with featuring videos back then on my channel. Before it was unlocking the trophy list of SCV which was also fantastic that I glad I unlocked the platinum trophy for it. Bad at the time but good at the same time.

[@panjinerdmaster]

You still owe us Umbrella Corps XD but your videos are amazing, keep it up and thank you for your content

[@michaeldagadagn307]

He will get to it eventually it is just a matter of time that has filled the games he has mentioned in previous episodes. As for an opinion as to why Umbrella Corps failed lack of story mode same as Mercenaries 3D. Resident Evil has always been story focused so multiplayer experiences are either hits or misses when it comes to the fan base.

[@panjinerdmaster]

@@michaeldagadagn307 unfortunately, it's not mainly the lack of story mode, though it is a major factor as well, I agree... when I played all 24 missions of The Experiment, the core gameplay was poorly developed... not underdeveloped, not for lack of testing... just... terrible... sad...

[@panjinerdmaster]

@Code Turtle so... i guess great in paper, disaster of an execution

[@panjinerdmaster]

@Code Turtle sources for interviews and investigations would be nice though... this game's just shrouded in mystery

[@panjinerdmaster]

@Code Turtle sounds like the medic class in ORC... but yeah, weird they used Unity of all engines

[@dolphinbanana3053]

The funny thing is I'm part of the Soul Calibur 6 modding community and aside from Patroklos, people actually enjoyed the newer characters, not just Z.W.E.I. People have worked hard to bring back characters like Natsu and Pyrrha This just really shows to me that the characters themselves weren't entirely at fault, just their environment Z.W.E.I. especially just got nipped in the bud before he could even grow as a character because of how rushed the game was Hell, I feel like I'd like them so much more if they were able to be whole characters like Grøh and Azwel

[@lolmetaknight]

In this game they decided to focus more on online multiplayer than solo modes, not a very good choice. The customization was awesome though and I like how we could create characters with devil jin's playstyle, it's a shame we didn't had it in SCVI...

[@6Let]

Oh god...the moment you flashed KoF 12 aka [Redated], you just sent chills down my spine.

[@BalmierLotus]

I loved the character customization in SoCal 5, my dream is to produce a martial arts fighting game with a similar CAF system. I was working on character designs for the main cast that would each represent a different discipline ( boxing, muay thai, ect) and then for CAFs you could select a base style or a hybrid that would use moves from each style

[@gasaiv2]

5 was dope, Viola us probably my fave FG Character of all time. Sad she isn't in 6.

[@devBadgerJ]

I know this is a Soul Calibur video..but there are two things that instantly elevate any channel to my favourite subs... Jojos reference... and mentions of Breakdown. keep up the great stuff.

[@chronoplague]

I think Soulcalibur 6 must have had an interesting development cycle as well, and while it turned out much better than 5, I get the feeling things were rough behind the scenes. There seem to be artifacts from an older story idea that found their way into the game. Namely, that Groh seems to have been a time traveler at some point in previous drafts of the story, as evidenced by his uncanny knowledge of story events and the modern/futuristic elements of his costume. There’s also all the matter of all the story chapters that are just huge blocks of text. Soulcalibur is no stranger to overindulgent world building (I could spend hours reading the character bios and weapon histories in previous games), but it’s usually separate from the actual story; a nice bonus for those who want to know more. SC6 has character stories that are just explanations of the plot, without any actual gameplay. In addition, there’s unlockable supplemental reading, that further explains the same events. It kinda feels like they didn’t have the time or budget to add additional story events, so they wrote a bunch of exposition instead. I dunno, it’s a game I really enjoy, but it feels slapped together at times. At least there’s something to use your custom fighters in.