Soulframe - What Happened?

[@ReforgeGaming]

LIVE DISCUSSION - kzbin.info4GwDUw0c2Uk

[@Glitched76]

Everyone seems to have missed when DE Steve said "the game is still in early development there will be glitches"

[@AgtDrake]

I got in on the prelude for Soulframe in March. It's a beautiful game. Some of the action feels a little stiff but it's fun. They're constantly improving on it and pushing hotfixes. Sarah keeps a close eye on the prelude Discord and communicates often. I have confidence DE will pull this off. Looking forward to more content being introduced for us to test out.

[@ReforgeGaming]

thats encouraging!

[@zinthos1952]

The most recent gameplay kind of looks like the devs saw Elden Ring and said “let’s do that, but as an MMO”. Here’s hoping they can deliver a unique experience.

[@ReforgeGaming]

Agreed

[@Sheriff_Bruce_Lee]

That infamous backstab animation looks like a live-action stage fight seen at a bad angle.

[@ReforgeGaming]

it does

[@wolfsaints]

All the old footage is how the game plays all the new footage is what they’re gonna be adding in August so they still have time to polish it also the first 2 boss fights are back to back

[@ReforgeGaming]

hoping it gets more polished and fluid

[@Storbein]

I have over 4600 hours in warframe, where I've been on and off since that game was in beta, and having witnessed first hand the total transformation of that game from day one up until now I believe we are quite far away from seeing the potential of this game - that is, if it manages to capture a sizeable audience, but it needs more time. What is here is generally good, it operates similarly to warframe in many ways and it is easy to see the shared DNA to draw comparisons, and my biggest gripe with it so far is DE's inherently cryptic way of communicating even the simplest core mechanics to the player, they like to spin their own words and lore and are very expressive through their art and depiction of the world in which their games take place, and oftentimes it is not very intuitive to the player, but I believe they also know this, and will add to the "new player experience" as the game takes shape, it is very clearly stated that character creation and some of the early stages of the game are placeholder at the moment, and knowing DE from having played their magnum opus for over a decade, I wholeheartedly believe this will be totally different at the time of release. I enjoy the combat in this game, but it needs some work still. I see comments regarding this stating that people feel that the combat is "floaty", I don't really know what this translates into and seems like a very broad criticism from someone inexperienced with game mechanics. That said, I am missing the ability to lock onto a target reliably, so if this is what floaty means then I guess I agree. I have been getting better at it but it feels like the soft lock which dictates wether or not you hit with a weapon swing needs some tweaking. The guidance system, abilities and spells that I have gotten to use, are fun to use and feel like they work as they should, I am however struggling to find out what stats affect which abilities and how the entire character sheet works as these all have very unique names and words for them and the game seems to be very adamant in its narrative even down to the tooltips and ui elements that they do not want to break the illusion of this world that we are exploring. All in all, I am glad I finally got to try this, and I think it looks very promising. DE seem to cherish artistic freedom, like alot, even though they are borrowing elements from and paying homages to a vast number of games that we all know and love, they have their own unique spin on it all. I have chosen to not pay much attention to media surrounding this game before trying it out myself and I believe everyone comparing this to an MMO missed the entire memo, this will most likely be a "lobby based" game centered around a limited number of people similar to warframe which has a squad size of 4 players, but it does seem like the focus rather than being strictly into a directly conveyed mission like in warframe, is to keep the player within this open map with a gently guided game experience through continuously fed objectives and events with a story progression, that still offers freedom through exploration. I imagine this game will be simmering for quite a bit more before we actually get to pass judgment on the actual product but I am looking forward to playing more and I remain optimistic.

[@Kjarrigan1]

I think for 2 years of development with a team of like 30 people it’s looking pretty good. Whenever they switch more people into the project we’ll see a lot of changes and more polish. And as Steve Sinclair said in the beginning they will develop it together with the community, so chances are good to get a great game in the end. Also they are crazy transparent in what they do, their CEO is streaming while fixing bugs and speaking with chat … the reactions were crazy harsh. Let’s see how they react to it in the coming months.

[@crabbypatty10fefrefe]

It reminded me of floaty and weird Dark Souls 2 feels to play. However, someone just came out with a mod that fixes that and apparently it makes Dark Souls 2 feel amazing now. Lol

[@ReforgeGaming]

yup very floaty

[@DrownEyedAngel]

Looking forward to this! DE has proven that they can stick with something and make it great. Jumping in day one!

[@ReforgeGaming]

i hope they can nail it, the early gameplay looked really good

[@Sheriff_Bruce_Lee]

Matt Mcmuscles is gonna be coming for your video title!

[@ReforgeGaming]

lol oh no

[@ROADKIL80]

Yeah I think the game looks good 👍👍

[@ReforgeGaming]

Shows a lot of promise

[@Krampus6-1-6]

Amazing artstyle and character design. Very unique

[@reztrentnor4380]

That demo from 2023 blew me away. I was genuinely shocked at what they just showed.

[@Spambot27374]

The game is still in pre alpha and is only 2 years into development its only releasing into early access its still years away from an offical release the developers have came out and clarified this

[@b4oneiszero516]

This is the difference between a dream and reality. The first showing is what they wanted to do and the current showings is what their level of game design is. Everything shown has same mechanic as warframe imo. Bad animations and floatiness are hallmarks of DE gameplay design. It is the thing that 1st descendant has over warframe and it seen soulframe has not improved upon it.

[@ReforgeGaming]

i really hope they take this feedback to heart

[@bastabey2652]

with tons of decent soul like games in the market, why should I wait for Steve to make a good one? wasn't it enough using WF during Duviri to test SF combat on WF players

[@syntrexfpv1347]

Idk I thought the latest gameplay video was pretty cool. Not as hardcore souls like as the first video but still looks like its gonna be a great game and if it is anything like the size of warframe I plan on putting hundreds of hours into it.

[@FlameForgedSoul]

"Prelude"= *pre* _Alpha._ People need to dial it down several notches. Let them cook.

[@Kringleb3rry]

It doesn’t even look like an mmo it looks like a single player experience

[@Citizen_JV]

I believe Games these days are being rushed and possibly have crunch time but again maybe there is hope for this game that could have potential if let in the cooker longer.

[@ReforgeGaming]

i don't think they will rush this one

[@Dave_Langer]

I never heard about this game before today, and I don't think the OG footage even looked that good.

[@Dudewithadrumset]

Game looks promising. It’s not my cup of tea, but I’ll watch somebody stream it.

[@jasonf7983]

[@ReforgeGaming]

yo yo

[@darcave7986]

pre alpha happened

[@CMA777]

Lots of hand-wringing and excessive doom & gloom for an unfinished game still a few months away from a beta.

[@ReforgeGaming]

sounds like you didnt watch the video, there is a lot of praise and hope for the game in this video

[@CMA777]

@@ReforgeGaming Hi! I did and my comment would be "like lots hand wringing and excessive doom & gloom for an unfinished game still a few months away from a beta." :) To be fair I also thought the previous video with the wolf mount looked better. You can tell they're trying to be transparent with their dev process & it's biting them in the butt a little.

[@Venzynt]

just me or does this game look grey and washed out?

[@ReforgeGaming]

i dont mind a muted color palette, everything seems super colorful these days

[@brandonphilander661]

It's called an Art Style.

[@wolfpayne9253]

Is it just me or does DE have this... weird and a bit ugly art style to it? Haven't seen an armor set I enjoyed in any of this...

[@Phillipmurr]

One thing to make note of is, that digital extremes has never made another successful game except for warframe. They failed at making a hero shooter. Their single player games they made in the past were all flops. And the one thing everyone likes about warframe was created by a bug, that was then turned into a feature, it wasn't even their idea..

[@Litoh14]

This game looks like ass imho, hopefully they go back and cook for 2 more years before showing anything again.