Sound Like Allan Holdsworth With These Plugins!

[@mindjob]

Allen should be awarded a posthumous Grammy for his musical brilliance

[@NicknLex]

Thanks so much for the Yamaha pdf list! I only have presonus artist and it doesn't have a tap delay so ill see what I can do.

[@Whosayswho79]

Bill you are fantastic. Keep doing what you do

[@MikkelGrumBovin]

I miss Allan so much that im crying - -this man was not from around here ......

[@kingofnowhere508]

If it's any solace for your emotions, there are many other who feel the same - though not enough. Take care.

[@anderssvensson3894]

No he was from Bradford !

[@kingofnowhere508]

@@anderssvensson3894 Pork Pies n ale!

[@msolbakken]

Holdsworth loved the sound of horns. Some of his recordings mimic the qualities of the saxophone.

[@TheLostHarmony]

That quaran-beard is beautiful! So is that tone! Impressed you can do so much with plug ins!

[@cliveburgess4128]

I just got patchwork and set up the first Allan setting, really cool, I'm amazed at all the other stuff in the plugin, thanks for the heads up and the lesson.

[@panziniman]

Thanks so much! You obsession with Allan’s tone is highly appreciated! Thanks also to introducing me to the Blue Cat stuff. I’m a new sub!

[@PNovak87]

Ah man! My favorite KZbin channel talking about my favorite guitarist! Thx Bill! Long live Allan!

[@krma1970]

This Valhalla delay is really a one of a kind plugin. Thank you for the tip(s).

[@mountainsite]

I was listening to Allan Holdsworth in the moment you upload this video. What a coincidence.

[@cliveburgess4128]

This is Awesome, thank you! I only got to see Allan once, around 1975 with Tony Williams, in a league of his own and has passed on a technique that younger players are carrying forward, he will be heard for ever.

[@chordsoforion]

Excellent that you got to see Allan!

[@teso9389]

Thanks for this video. I've also been trying to get Allan Holdsworth sounds for a long time, mainly through software. I really like the 3 sounds in the video. But I feel a lack: The explanation is incomplete. It is not explained how to create the patches in Valhalla following the provided UD-Stomp patch list. Understanding that the Delay Time of each Patch would have to be adjusted in Valhalla and also the PAN settings, but I don't see any other UD-Stomp setting that can be put in Valhalla. In the video you also talk about how the Valhalla settings would also carry the modulation... In addition, the post-gain settings for the effects chain in Blue Cat Patchwork, which I see in the video have certain values, I don't know where to find them... I bought the Valhalla and the Blue Cat Patchwork and I am disappointed at this lack of explanation that prevents us from Creating Allan's Patchwork. I do not see the name or the way to communicate with the author of the video… Please, that the author of the video or someone explain to us what I indicated above. Not only me, but all those who want to get Allan's Patches that the video promises but does not adequately explain, we would be very grateful.

[@Siberguy2008]

Have you tried a plug-in called BYOME (Build Your Own Modulation Engine) from plug-in alliance. Expensive but sometimes on sale for $50. You can have up to 40 effects. Delays, Reverb’s, oscillators, filters, envelope followers, sequencers connected in all kinds of ways. The way you put it all together is clever and fun.

[@steveball7086]

Really great/informative video. Just to clarify, it appears that you are using the parameter listings for the UD Stomp presets from the .pdf and “translating” them to each the 8 (or so) Valhalla Delay parameter settings in the Patchwork plug. Right? By the way, your playing examples fit well with the patches you’re illustrating. Great work. I’m sure you’ve checked Holdsworth’s work with the Tony Williams Lifetime, Soft Machine and, of course, UK.

[@chordsoforion]

Correct. In general, the millisecond delay times are right on with the real UD-Stomp, as are the percentages of levels and feedback (i.e., 2.5 = 25% on the Valhalla). Modulation rate is a little tricky, but if take whatever the value is in the PDF and divide in half, seems pretty close to the US setting. And yes, have checked all the early Holdsworth stuff!

[@GauteEliassenMusic]

@@chordsoforion is it the "SPEED" column in the pdf that you divide in half to get the MOD rate in Valhalla? What about the LEVEL, EFFECT LEVEL and DIRECT LEVEL?

[@chordsoforion]

@@GauteEliassenMusic No - it is Speed in the UD-Stomp patchiest that I am dividing. The levels you can play around with them. 8.5 in the UD-Stomp patchiest would be 85% in the plugin.

[@mattmarantz4863]

Hey there! Thanks for your great work! I previously had a version of this rigged up in Logic using their stock plugins but this is a lot better. I wanted to ask a few pertinent questions- I really hope you or someone here will help me with these! Here goes: 1. I've basically set this up and it sounds great, but I'm confused about the way you have your stereo width setup on different instances of Valhalla Delay. In the video I see varying instances of Valhalla Delay with the "width" control either at 0% or -100% values. Obviously the Pan plugin after each instance is doing the job of panning, but why are we not feeding it a full stereo signal on each band before panning hard-left or hard-right? Is the idea that each instance is folded down to mono by setting 'width" to 0% before it hits its following pan plugin in Patchwork? Or then, why are you at -100% "width" values on some of the instances of Valhalla Delay which, according to the Valhalla manual, would only flip the L/R signals to mirror their usual configuration? I tried to find all the spots in your video where the "width" controls were shown, and I never saw one where the width control was just set to 100% like normal. 2. Some of the UD Stomp settings have "tap" adjusted to be less than 100. But we don't have separate controls for delay time and "tap" on the Valhalla Delay, do we? What do we do when on "AH Chorus 7" for example, "tap" is at 25.4 and "delay time" is at 31.5? How to set that up? 3. I don't agree with the user below who said that "level" corresponds to "mix". Because for example at "Level 6.5", to me that just means that the volume of that delay band is 65% of maximum output, not that the "mix" of that delay band should be set to 65% because then you get dry signal running through that band which is probably not what AH/Yamaha intended. So how can we adjust a delay band to a lesser "Level" or gain value than 100% and have it correspond to the original Yamaha settings for each band? In the Patchwork plugin, you can boost or trim the gain of each individual band directly on the plugin's post section on the right side of the plugin, but then how do we convert "65%" to a decibel value for trimming? It's not clear... Thanks!

[@onesandzeros]

Great topic, thanks Bill. I would certainly be interested to hear more of your thoughts about Allan's playing and music. Also about the HF2. I was looking at them recently, and was disappointed to find that they discontinued it just last year.

[@timbaugh1944]

Thanks Bill - Holdsworth is one of my favourite guitarists as well and like you I can't play anything like him. I'll check out the Blue Cat product - I've been looking for something like that for years without success.

[@TheEngarn]

Great sounds here! I think you should be able to do this with a single delay plugin, the PSP 608 Multidelay. There you have 8 simultaneous delays completely tweakable.

[@tiagoperes1631]

I REALLY ENJOYED YOUR VIDEO, I THINK THIS IS THE CHEAPER WAY TO GET HIS TONE! HAHA THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

[@modularcuriosity]

I'm surprised that you're not using your Allan Holdsworth model guitar. :-)

[@Dionisaf]

beautiful beard and nice voice 👍

[@chordsoforion]

Thank you kindly! 😎

[@goldenultra]

Every Breath u take, also has complex delay, u can download it for magic stomp.

[@fabiostabel]

Great video!!!

[@zoomzoom3950]

sounds amazing, closest I've heard; thank you for discovering this! For the lead tone, what are you using for amp and distortion? Cheers!

[@chordsoforion]

Glad you liked the vid! I don't have the precise settings anymore, but the lead tone was comprised of these 2 pedals: Strymon Compadre (for the lead tone I used the dirty boost setting) Strymon Iridium (set to the Round amp type)

[@zoomzoom3950]

@@chordsoforion thank you!

[@zoomzoom3950]

@@chordsoforion I know you did this a few years ago... I don't have a UD Stomp, so I'm curious if you recall how you used the UD Stomp patchlist parameters in Valhala, specifically the modulation speed? For example, in the UD Stomp patchlist, "222 Volume Pedal Swell FX 2", on delay #8, speed is 3.3; in your video you have it set to 1.63 Hz in Valhalla. Thanks!

[@chordsoforion]

@@zoomzoom3950 Good question! To me, it seems like the "HZ" setting in the Valhalla Delay should be set to about 1/2 of the setting in the UD-Stomp patchlist - thus 3.3/2 = 1.69 or so. Everything else seems to be pretty close.

[@zoomzoom3950]

@@chordsoforion thank you again!

[@davidartreides3932]

As a bass player deeply into Allan Holdsworth's music, I have to say this video and the content within is sheer brilliance. I knew he was into delays but I never thought this much! I suspect that Holdsworth was a help with Jimmy "Flim" Johnson's use of delay on his bass; 30ms/0 feedback. I use that delay on my bass all the time. Thank you for this video, excellent work on your part. Cheers. Time to listen to the bootleg "One City Night"!

[@robertclarkguitar]

Cool! I dig gilmour. Hehe. Awesome vid!

[@eugeniomarletta3545]

First comment lol Btw great tone but it's impossible to even hold the pick like the legendary Holdsworth

[@PilferMusic]

I'm fortunate to have a number of pieces of gear inspired by Alan Holdsworth and one is the UD STOMP VahallaDelay to UD STOMP settings; UD Stomp DELAY TIME = DELAY in ms in the VahallaDelay ~ 23.6 DELAY in the UD Stomp is 23.6ms in VahallaDelay DELAY UD Stomp FEEDBACK 0 to 10 = FEEDBACK 0 to 200% on the VahallaDelay ~ 4.5 in the UD Stomp is 45% in VahallaDelay FEEDBACK UD Stomp SPEED 0 to 10 = MOD Rate on the VahallaDelay ~ 2.5 SPEED in the UD Stomp is 2.5 Hz in VahallaDelay MOD Rate UD Stomp DEPTH 0 to 10 = MOD Rate 0 to 10 Hz ~ so 2.5 Depth in the UD Stomp is 25% in VahallaDelay DEPTH UD Stomp LEVEL 0 to 10 = MIX 0 to 100% on the VahallaDelay ~ 6.5 LEVEL in the UD Stomp is 65% in VahallaDelay MIX Pan is Pan - very simple to setup The area I'm stuck when trying to make ValhallaDelay parameters the same as the UD Stomp parameters is in the TAP on the UD Stomp. Here in the UD Stomp TAP is defined as "the timing at which the delay sound is taken out of the delay loop." Page 14 of the UD Stomp Manual Anyone have any ideas how to dial this up?

[@chordsoforion]

100% tap on the UD-Stomp = 1/4 note on the Valhalla Delay, 75% on the UD = dotted eight, 66% = triplet, 50% = 1/8 note, etc. Also, in my testing, I have found that the modulation rate on the Delay does not map directly to the UD-Stomp. To my ear, the rate sounds closer if you take 1/2 the value of the UD-Stomp setting and apply it to the V Delay. For example, 2.5 on the UD-Stomp sounds very close to 1.25 hz on the Delay, at least to my ear.

[@PilferMusic]

@@chordsoforion Thanks Bill... I'll have a peak and listen and tweak- all the best

[@lukedoyle]

Chords Of Orion I agree - it’s all pretty much 1:1 except the modulation speed. I’ve been messing with this exact combo (Valhalla delay + BC Patchwork) for while and have yet to get exactly the rates that sound like the UD/MS algorithms - to my ears. It’s easier to hear the subtle differences between modulation rates at lower speeds. There’s another 8-band delay plugin called PSP608 that can achieve almost the same effect but the preset management isn’t as neat as Valhalla Delay.

[@tobbebergman7583]

@@lukedoyle The PSP608 has no pitch modulation and are therefor completely useless regarding Holdsworth sound textures !

[@lukedoyle]

@@tobbebergman7583 yeah partially correct if you’re looking at the swell and chorus type patches that require modulating the delay time (resulting in minute pitch fluctuations) to emulate the rich-sounding UD chorus effects. But the stereo lead patches don’t use modulation so it could work there. Anyway, I’ve dropped the PSP608 for now as you can’t achieve the luscious UD style effects with it for the very reason you stated. IMO, the closest thing to the UD Stomp is using two instance of the band delay in the Axe-Fx devices. That’s some seriously nice delay.

[@theliberation9061]

My two main takeaways from this video: 1) I should probably check out Allan Holdsworth's music 2) 4-5 delays at a time for my most uberdramatic stuff is not as overkill as I thought

[@neilomac]

Allan's music is an acquired taste. But once you acquire it, it never goes away.

[@anderssvensson3894]

Allan used UD and Magicstomps which have 8 parallel modulated delays that created huge acoustic sounding sounds ! He also used ADA STD-1 for the same purpose !!

[@giovannicosenza1034]

Thank a lot Bill. This is exactly what I was looking for. I have a question: How to associate Valhalla Delay Mod Rate 1.79 with the speed in the udstomp_en2.pdf document? Thanks

[@PilferMusic]

I was wondering about this as well... I have a UD Stomp and I just grabbed this Blue Cat Audio PATCH WORK plug... and I'm scanning the UD Stomp Manual trying to setup the Valhalla Delay to match and I'm going to assume SPEED listed for the UD is equivalent to Rate in Hz in the Valhalla Delay. Now the Depth on the UD Stomp goes from 0 to 10, so I will assume 2.5 Depth in the UD Stomp is 25% in Valhalla Delay Depth and set up the software that way.

[@planetpjr]

I have a magic stomp loaded up with a slew of Allan's ud stomp presets. It's my desert island pedal for sure.

[@chordsoforion]

Cool! 2 of my 3 Magicstomps are in the same condition. I do have to say that I think I may be preferring this software approach, especially given how great the Valhalla delay sounds. I am now experimenting moving to a tape style delay with the same settings. Am interested to hear the results.

[@mostresticator5]

hi! i know allen six magic stomps for his chain at one point during his career, a splitter going to three for clean and three for wet with the first of each chain being a pre amp...do you know what amp on the magic stomp he was using for his wet tone?

[@planetpjr]

@@mostresticator5 Hi Mike, The last time I saw him he had two Hughes and Kettner combos (Fender Twins once in awhile) on top of a pair of Marshall 4x12 bottoms powered by a stereo USC Audio power amp. The clean chords and swells sounds were on top, the power amp was for stereo leads overdriven by the Magic stomps after he stopped using the Yamaha DG 1000 rack preamp and a pair of Yamaha Ultimate Delay Stomps. He also had a TC Electronic Stereo Chorus pedal patched in some where as well. He had a Korg volume pedal and a special Korg mixer pedal to fade seamlessly between the two stereo fields. He used is own mics on the cabinets. I forgot what they were. He was quite particular with the main house EQ and would always inspect the sound board to make sure the sound man knew exactly what he wanted.

[@mostresticator5]

@@planetpjr great info thank you! any advice on lead tone with magic stomp? i just got one and after getting used to fractal audio this magic stomp distortions sound pretty bad

[@planetpjr]

I use an overdrive into a speaker cab simulator then into the magic stomp.

[@neaituppi7306]

Who is actually going to buy these pedals, thinking that is how you can get Holdsworth's sound? You can use any chorus/delay you already have. They key to his sound is he did selective picking, before it was even called that. On solos he would hammer through the scales with his left hand, as well as bending them. So you get this unique wobbly solo sound. That and he uses certain types of scales with some dissonance.

[@chordsoforion]

I think you need to watch the video before commenting. there are no pedals.

[@jamesmiller9617]

1: Build time machine 2: Travel 50 years into the future to hear what the best players on earth are doing 3: Go back in time 100 years and start practicing 4: You'll almost be able to play something as original and jaw dropping as the Devil take the hindmost solo. 5: Realize figuring out time travel was easier than being as good as the Maestro.

[@chordsoforion]

Fortunately this video is not about playing like Allan. It's only about replicating the UD-Stomp presets.

[@erictripton]

I have been using 8 bus tracks with delay to recreate UD patches. Did not occur to me to find a patch bay plugin. Thanks, this may help

[@chordsoforion]

Hang in there. I am going to try and get a video out soon replicating the Holdsworth UD presets with the FREEEEEE Chow Matrix delay plugin.

[@Jotun184]

Allan Holdsworth tone, Karl Marx beard. A force to be reckoned with!

[@aelspecto]

I agree, his beard is looking extra magnificent in this video!

[@Mr.Wu.]

No sound of allan holdsworth here. Sorry

[@Larry30102]

Bill Great Video as usual. I'm not much of lead player, but am possessed by AH lead. I'm trying to avoid plucking down huge amounts of $$. I purchased the J.Rocket AH box as was disappointed with direct recording (I have no outboard amps). My 'real' lead buddy said I needed an amp for the J.Rocket. I see you're using the Iridium. How important is that in that lead sound? Can I get it with just the Valhala and Blue Cat? If I do need an amp can I use something like THU-Full which I have. My attempts so far hasn't been all that great. Many Thx

[@chordsoforion]

Hi Larry: the AH lead tone evolved over the years, but in the latter years, he settled on amp modeling from Yamaha, specifically the DG series amps and then the Magicstomp. The amp model was called Lead 1 and was inspired by a Marshall JCM800 amp. In addition, he liked Celestion V30 speakers. So what does this mean? You will need an amp modeler that can do the Marshall amp and cab kind of thing. Put a compressor in front of it, then adjust the gain to 7-8, treble 2-3, mids - pretty much all the way up, bass - 0-2. There was a lot more tweaking he did, in particular with pre and post EQ, but those are the basics. The iridium does it very well, but it's not the only one. There are a bunch of software amp modelers that would be worth trying. Also, the J. Rockett works really well if you front end it into an amp modeler like the iridium. use the boost and the overdrive and adjust, keeping in mind that you want a mids heavy tone. Hope this helps!

[@Larry30102]

Chords Of Orion Bill Thanks so much for the hand holding. I’ll give these a go. I do have software models that can get me in the ballpark. I’ve enjoyed your channel so much for the ambient, and have made most of my purchases based upon your reviews and inspiration 😊. I was more than excited to see your vid on AH and watched it with much enthusiasm. Thank you for your kind reply.

[@MrPyroguru]

Nobody will ever play like Allan? Check out Derryl Gabel - Marshall Harrison - Shawn Lane - Brett Stine - Nico Stufano

[@byellguitarharmony6373]

I met Allan in a Clinic in Zürich he changed my live, love his Music so much, have 6 UD Stomp's now is time to go Digital

[@winstonschwarz1636]

Yes!

[@lurama1962]

Hi Bill, can you kindly provide the Logic Pro files? Thank you and greetings from Italy...

[@lurama1962]

or, if you can, the Blue Cat preset file... Thanks a lot!

[@jedmarsillo]

Cool video. You really got some great sound there. I can't wait to try this out. Thank you for putting it out there and making it so easy for the rest of us to get that little bit closer to sounding like Allan Holdsworth.

[@ModernGuitar]

Great video, I love the Valhalla Delay ! Few years ago I came across a free plugin called Delay8 made by ToneCarver, which emulates the UD-Stomp 8 bands delay. I'm still using it, but I don't think it is still available online.

[@chordsoforion]

Yes - I have seen that in the past, but unfortunately it was Windows only. Also, I just checked, and the download link is broken.

[@chordsoforion]

@@chopholtz4950 The Chow Matrix is a great cross platform free plugin that can create UD-Stomp presets really well. Delay8 looks like it has been dead since 2014, so time to move on. :-)

[@montazownianr1]

Next stop: RAUM plugin from NI

[@diegorhoenisch62]

I'm guessing that Holdsworth's original inspiration for his delay scheme was a device made by A/DA called the STD-1. I worked at a studio where he had worked-Music Grinder in LA(long gone)-and they had that box. Holdsworth tended to use unusual gear. Cheers, Alan Tomlinson

[@diegorhoenisch62]

Two things that were important about the A/DA box were that: the delays were all based on prime numbers so that they didn't reinforce each other; and the taps could be assigned to one of two channels or turned off.

[@kittavares4334]

I was surprised to find you again while looking for info on Allan (I discovered and subscribed to your channel yesterday because of your ambient stuff). I think you can achieve the same result in Ableton using the Echo device and stacking several instances in an fx rack (I'm gonna try it tonight).

[@chordsoforion]

Sweet! Write back after you try it out and let me know if it works.

[@kittavares4334]

@@chordsoforion I still need to tweak it a little to get a satisfying sound, but yes, you can totally do it with Echo (the modulation section is even deeper than Vahalla's I think, you can chose the shape of the modulation). Ableton's fx rack is one of my favorite features of the DAW and it is very convenient for that type of stuff.

[@chordsoforion]

@@kittavares4334 Great to hear and glad it does not require additional purchases.

[@seanwayland]

Sounds good! I built a VST plugin emulation of the UD stomp with all the presets in it .

[@PfaffPfantom]

Is it available for download?

[@whaleguy]

Given that you used to play guitar in a prog rock band, I'm not sure why you had any trepidation about showing the lead patch. It's not like Holdsworth, but then it would be missing the point to copy his effect settings and then play exactly like him. It's far more interesting to learn from masters and then apply the technique to our own work instead of just mimicking them :)

[@chordsoforion]

Agreed and thanks for the encouragement!

[@vizzo7]

great video. what do you use to connect the guitar to you computer?

[@vizzo7]

sorry I saw that. By the way the lead sound sounds as if you were using a reverse delay. Did you use the bridge pickup?

[@chordsoforion]

The pickup switch was in the middle, which means that both pickups were working. And no - no reverse delay.

[@nickkellie]

This is tremendous!

[@jfroines]

I think you could put something very similar together with the stock devices in Reason. You could stack any # of delays in series directly and in parallel via a virtual line mixer, and some careful use of wet/dry and send/return you could put modulation effects wherever you want within the chain, including on any delay-only line at any breakpoint.

[@chordsoforion]

Good to hear. I looked at doing something like this Logic Pro, but it would take 8 aux channels and be quite unwieldy in terms of saving as a preset. I was super excited to find the Patchwork, which greatly simplifies the setup.

[@SpartanLaserCanon]

Sick tone recreation. Those sound like a lot of the tones he used.

[@VirtualModular]

Neat idea. I don't see many people making effects patches in this way but modular is the way to go. I recently made a chorus, freeze and reverse delay looping patch using 24 delay modules in VCV Rack. I should probably buy the Valhalla delay too!

[@chordsoforion]

It is truly a magical delay plugin!

[@VirtualModular]

@@chordsoforion yep, it's on a lengthy list of stuff to buy! I'm just using Supermassive with VCV at the moment because its free. There's a lot you can do even with the most basic delay in modular though.

[@robertobaldizon8206]

Amazing sound sir. Thanks for sharing.

[@Emily_M81]

Wonderful video and tribute/tutorial :) This video got me to thinking on how to replicate it in my DAW, Bitwig, as I don't own any of those plugins, but Bitwig is incredibly capable and basically the legos of music software. It was pretty easy, just took a little time setting up the delay layers and modulations :) Thanks for that, too!

[@chordsoforion]

I don't have Bigwig, but there very well be a way. You just really to be able to apply modulation to each delay line separately. Best thing to do is download t he UD-Stomp patch list and look the parameters to see how they might map into Bigwig.

[@Emily_M81]

@@chordsoforion I was mostly commenting that I was glad you got me thinking and working through something, which is great :) thanks again and happy new year!

[@thatellipsisguy8984]

I read that as 'these penguins'. Needless to say, I was confused...

[@chordsoforion]

I can imagine!

[@howiesilinski805]

Hi Bill, love your channel, thanks for what you do. Am seeing this for the 1st time and am a huge AH fan. For the last lead preset, #131 is there something else you are using to get that classic AH sustain / horn type sound or is it purely the delay settings? Best regards

[@chordsoforion]

Hey Howie: Sorry I missed this. The lead preset was as described. The way I got the sustain was to adjust the Strymon Iridium for a lead tone. Also, I turn down the tone control for all of my lead playing to smooth out the tone.

[@howiesilinski805]

@@chordsoforion Thanks Bill, u really captured the tone well, and glad to see / hear u r feeling better, have a great day

[@bluecataudio]

Thanks for mentioning PatchWork! I guess it would even be easier to set this up using the Late Replies delay plug-in (www.bluecataudio.com/Products/Product_LateReplies/)

[@chordsoforion]

Thanks for the suggestion. I do have the Late Replies as part of the Axiom. Will take a look!

[@lukedoyle]

Chords Of Orion Late Replies is awesome but it’s easier to get this UD-style sound in patchwork with 8 x Valhalla Delay, speaking from experience ;)

[@cfibanez]

Amazing! Thank you.

[@JeffHendricks]

I'm wondering if it would be possible to do this with a Fractal Audio FM3 or Axe-FX.

[@chordsoforion]

Can you do 8 delay lines in parallel with modulation and filters for each? That always seems to be the sticking point.

[@JeffHendricks]

@@chordsoforion Possibly. I think the Axe3 can parallel 6 blocks wide, each stereo... it might be possible. But I don't know if anyone's ever tried it... yet!

[@jfo3000]

Bill, no modulation on Allan's lead tones? Ever? So his slight "talking" effect came from Haas effect of the delays only, with no modulation?

[@chordsoforion]

The lead preset that I demoed is one of 9 on the UD-Stomp, none of which use modulation. As to whether or not he ever used modulation on a lead tone on his albums or during a live set, that would be hard to say.

[@jfo3000]

@@chordsoforion Wow, OK then. Thanks for the reply. Love the volume swell piece that you did here, excellent as always.

[@tarekwayne9193]

Is that slight talking effect heard on all his lead work? Or certain tracks on particular?

[@jfo3000]

@@tarekwayne9193 I'm thinking that I detect that effect on all leads in all his solo albums, from IOU through Tain.

[@seanghannam9800]

awesome.. 👍👍👍.

[@markgregory8389]

Valhalla Delay is not available through this link.

[@chordsoforion]

He has the store closed today in solidarity of the protests going on here in the US.

[@markgregory8389]

@@chordsoforion What would your opinion be of swapping out the Valhalla delay for iZotope Excalibur (which is a very affordable plug in)?

[@chordsoforion]

@@markgregory8389 I don't know anything about the Excalibur, so have no opinion. I will say that if you are thinking about getting the PAtch Work you could also try using it's built-in effects in 4 step parallel chain.Delay, EQ, Modulation and Pan.

[@ANONYMOUSJEMAAT]

i love in how do you divide each section on the KZbin timeline

[@chordsoforion]

Yes! It's a new feature that KZbin just release. I am pretty excited about it.

[@tobaccorich]

You ever checked out Tim Miller ?

[@davelanciani-dimaensionx]

Tim is great! Or Tom Quayle? He's another legato master - such smooth technique, and he tunes his guitars in perfect fourths.

[@edufriguetto4466]

Wonderful video!! which chorus pedal do you recommend the most to get to allan's sound?

[@chordsoforion]

You will need either the Yamaha UD-Stomp or Magicstomp to achieve what I demoed in the video.

[@Dystopian63]

nice.

[@mattgilbert7347]

What's a plug-in? Someone, please explain this to an old guy who didn't get his first computer or mobile phone until around 2011-2013. Please. Others have tried and I just don't get it. Where do I plug in??? OMG, I'm halfway into this and this is like an IT lecture not Rock n Roll. Presets of someone else's tone you "make" (not create) fiddling about on a bloody computer. Truly, we live in Dystopian times. Nothing personal, COR. You're awesome. But everyone is subject to this nightmare, nobody escapes. Myself included.

[@davelanciani-dimaensionx]

Seriously? Welcome to the age of the computer., sir! We now record on computers using software, or an APP called a "Digital Audio Workstation." I'm guessing you've heard of some of these, like ProTools, Cubase, Reaper, Logic, Audition, Nuendo, FL Studio, Studio One, etc. In these "Digital Audio Workstations" (DAW for short) various Effects like delays, reverbs, etc., are included, called "VST plugins" (VST = Virtual Studio) . Once you record a track of audio into your DAW (like you would on tape in a studio), you can add effects (just like in a studio). Bill is demonstrating how these. Gotta adapt to the times my fellow older person. This is how music is recorded, and it is SO MUCH easier than in the old days once you learn how. Don't be afraid of the water, come dive in with us.

[@lastdaysguitar]

Plug Ins are relatively small (generally) programs that simulate either a virtual instrument, or in this case an effect or group of effects. They are great standalone but absolutely invaluable when used within a Digital Audio Workstation program (Such as Reaper, Logic, Digital Performer, ProTools, Cubase). You must have an "audio interface" (i.e.: with audio to digital converters for inputs and digital to audio converters for outputs) into your computer to use them. If you've ever recorded, in simplest terms think of these "plug in effects" as being effects pedals or rack units in your signal chain into the board (though they are capable of much more in routing). My best advice for you to really grasp the power of plug ins is to reach out to anyone you know that records and ask them if they would be willing to let you come over and take a few minutes to show you what plug ins do. I could not afford to do the music I do without so many great low cost and even free plug ins.

[@chordsoforion]

Hey Matt: Dave and lastdaysguitar provide some helpful information and advice. I'll just say that many newer pedals are kind of like mini-computers complete with processing units, memory, etc. It's all kind of blending together if you know what I mean. That being said, I get what you saying about not letting the tech overshadow the music. I think that line is different for different folks, and some of its depends on what you are trying to accomplish in your art.

[@tlw4237]

Well you could always fiddle about using a 24 track tape machine and a room or two full of expensive - and often vintage - hardware if you prefer I suppose, but it’s a heck of a lot easier and cheaper to use a computer as the recording and processing tool, and it also makes possible things that “traditional” studios simply could not do..

[@jfo3000]

I started learning Cubase, its plug-ins and downloading other free plug-ins for the first time in January. I was nearly 58yrs old at that point. You can learn this stuff, there are tutorial videos for all the functions of my DAW, for example, Cubase, on youtube. If you have a savy friend, maybe they can show you some basics too. That can help. This isn't dystopian. It's one of the BEST things that has happened for musicians, period.

[@shitmandood]

Jesus! This is the video I've been waiting for! I've actually been on the hunt for a Holdsworth Overdrive since they dried up & haven't been able to find squat. I recently caved & bought a Joe Satriani Satchurator distortion pedal for about $65 to see if I can make due on using it to get a legato/Holdsy tone out of it.

[@chordsoforion]

Although I really like the J Rockett AH OD, you can get in that direction pretty easily with other gear. Here's the key that I learned from the old AF forum (and wrote down/copied): His Yamaha DG-era/Magicstomp lead tone used the Lead 1 amp sim, which was inspired by a Marshall JCM. Gain is less than you might think - about 6-7, with a compressor in front. Tone controls were set to: Bass 0-1, Low mid 8-10, high mid 8-10, Treble 2-3. I take these settings as "concepts" and apply them to whatever I am actually using. Also, don't forget to use the bridge humbucker with the tone knob rolled down significantly.

[@planetpjr]

I can recommend Bob Burt gr8t overdrive and the Allan Hinds AH 1 pedals.

[@shitmandood]

@@chordsoforion I'll have to look into this. A forum with good details could always disappear one day, so that's a great idea to keep your own notes on the settings, just in case. I'll need to start doing that as well.

[@shitmandood]

@@planetpjr Allan Hinds has a signature pedal? LOL. Man, I never knew that. He looks like he's related Allan Holdsworth too. hehehe.