The Yamaha Magicstomp, Getting Holdsworths Lead Sound, Delays and How to Connect/Update Firmware

[@planetpjr]

Allan was a friend of mine and I have a little memorial Allan collection. I have 2 Magic Stomps and all three versions of his Carvin/ Kiesel signature models and they are my only guitars and the CD Box set. I have his J Rockett signature boost pedal too. I was there when he was using all that stuff. I handled his gear on and off stage for years. I remember changing strings on his Bill Delapp. Thank you for this video. It brings some solace. Great times, lots of pints. Great memories. Cheers chaps! I'll see you.....then.

[@freedomseeds8194]

Dude that's awesome. I've been a huge Allan Holdsworth fan since I was 14. I had no idea who Allan was, I was in a guitar shop, looking at instructional materials, and I saw his REH video. So I bought it. I'll never forget the guy at the counter looking at me, smirking, and saying "Good luck kid". Purchasing that video irreparably changed my life. Cheers.

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

That's awesome!

[@planetpjr]

@@freedomseeds8194 In 2022, that whole video is on KZbin I hope it helps but when I got my original copy 3 decades ago it was the holy grail of the VCR. Now, I have my Holdsworth VHS tape sitting on my pedal board as a museum piece.

[@THe-mz6ms]

I saw Allan many times. The first being in 85 during the Road Games tour. He had two key guys with him then: Gordy and another dude. Ring any bells?

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Gordy Davis and maybe Eddie Coralnick?

[@tonyqunta32]

I bought a UD Stomp when it first came out and I still use it now. Amazing piece of kit!

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

It is! I really hope Yamaha re-introduce it in some way with better tech, like being able to use 2 patches at once.

[@planetpjr]

@@TurrigenousOfficial yup!

[@rudylongyard2465]

It has the most gorgeous delays & modulation indeed. But how do you activate & store an expression pedal for effect level as ALWAYS active (on all presets), I mean also after switching the UD stomp off and back on again? Now I need to go through the lengthy and complicated procedures on p24 and p26 of the manual every time after switching the unit on. And even then, after using the expression pedal a bit, it suddenly is no longer active, even without me switching the unit off! Both are on my pedal board and I just want to keep the expression pedal active all the time, automatically.

[@carlcook9094]

Not to get too dramatic but I’ve followed this video to the letter and turned a nice bass magic stomp into the most surreal and gorgeous AH sound imaginable . The chorus sounds alone make the purchase of my new HH2 Kiesel worth every penny. I’ve known AH music for 40 years. Before I saw your videos I had little to no hope of experiencing his music from the inside. Now that I have the tone my big job is to learn his voicings, create a few of my own and bathe in the ‘other world’ sound the two combine to make. This sound is a dream come true for me. Thank you. I want to pay you some money for this. What’s the best way?

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

I'm so glad I could help! I was the same way too so why not share it. This is exactly why I wanted to do this. You don't need to give me anything but if you REALLY want to, i don't remember my PayPal link but I believe I have one in my 5 hour solo lesson video description. Thanks again for the comment!

[@digineet8421]

@@TurrigenousOfficial You are doing the lords work lol

[@MrPyroguru]

@@digineet8421 Amen!

[@WalterCrumbcake]

Video was randomly in my recommended list. Bought one of these when it first came out. I got it because honestly I didn't have a lot of money when I first started playing guitar and it seemed like the best bang for the buck. I've tried other effect units and pedals over the years but I just keep going back to the magicstomp. This is also my go-to for connecting to synths because the tone you can get is amazing.

[@obedefranklin2464]

John, thanks again for such a helpful video! I had no idea how to edit MS' patches in the unit, without having to connect it to my pc. The Magicstomp Facebook page helped me a lot to get all the "nerd" information for connecting the unit to my pc and controlling it from there. Great job, man!

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Awesome, thanks! Also I learned how to edit the name. It was in the manual. In that edit mode, hit store once then you have to hold on/off for a couple of seconds

[@obedefranklin2464]

@@TurrigenousOfficial man, thank you so much! I was trying to figure it out just now!

[@tonedogblaze]

2 suggestions for running the editor in windows 10 - go to Windows explorer and navigate to the .exe that launches the editor and right-click and go to Properties > compatibility. check the box to "run this program in compatibility mode" and at the drop-down choose a supported OS for the editor like XP. Then just below check the box "run this program as an administrator" and click ok thru the dialogs.. Now when the editor is launched, it will be with elevated Admin Rights and the program will think it's on windows XP... One other tip is to not install the editor in Program Files (x86) but rather install to a folder on the root of C, as the rights required for the Program files folder are typically higher ... cheers!

[@robertrusbridge706]

PERFECT! I recently bought an Acoustic version and thanks to you I was able to convert it to an Electric version and install AH's patches with ease. Incidentally, I used an old laptop running Windows Vista and that worked perfectly too. Thanks again.

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Awesome! Glad to hear it.

[@taxsupport2422]

Hey there - I also just got the u99A and want to install the mkii electric 2.10 firmware. I can't find anywhere to get the Yamaha Midi Radio... the sites I found it on were all spammy, and the one I did download ended up being some Japanese thing that was definitely not the correct player. Where did you get the player? I am stuck at this stage...

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Sorry for the delayed response! I had the same issue but I found it on my computer. I should have included it in the description as well as all the other stuff needed. Did you check there?

[@rockstarjazzcat]

I've got a couple of those I purchased new, because Holdsworth fanatic... Thanks for revisiting.

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

You reminded me of a funny story! I used to be in sales at Sam Ash, the same exact location Allan did a clinic you can find on youtube. I was hired the year after. We had a Magicstomp there and I was sick of seeing it cuz it was so ugly! So in a desperate attempt to get rid of it I sold it to a friend of mine for $20. The same guy that got me into Allan years later. Still remember that sale to this day haha. You're welcome Eric!!

[@rockstarjazzcat]

@@TurrigenousOfficial I started with the DG-Stomp, later hand modified for reduced noise. I'd forgotten that the DG series started in the nineties. Around the time I got a Magicstomp I recall seeing the last of the UD-Stomp's disappearing from the catalogs and wished I'd gotten that for the knob-per-function control. I've probably spent more time with the settings in the Magicstomps manuals than with the stomps themselves. The world changed very quickly. Still looking forward to a Holdsworth real book, btw. Cheers, Daniel

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

@@rockstarjazzcat it was surprisingly tough to find release dates and stuff on this. Btw I dunno if I'll release a real book unless I can add something significant. There are a few stupidly minor changes I'd make but not enough for a real release. This is cheaper and easier for everyone I feel. Thank you though :)

[@erictripton]

Done the homework, got the patches.. been using in my DAW for over a year now... Love it... Used two MS for live rig...I hope kids catch on to the best Delay effect ever!!!! No one is re producing what Yamaha did, bar the Line 6 Helix, but you still have to do your homework to program it. Just simply copy the UD Stomp settings and manually insert into the MS, if you dont want to switch to XP old school LOL

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

That's why I added that at the end haha. Also I had an issue last night and I found some updated yamaha midi drivers for win 7/8/10 in the FB group that werent available when I first used the MS

[@erictripton]

@@TurrigenousOfficial I'm an idiot DUH, Thanks for posting!! I see you in the FB group!! Nice 1

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

@@erictripton Haha NP!

[@erictripton]

@@TurrigenousOfficial I would assume you are aware of Sean Wayland's plugin? I recently got turned on to the Delay8 by Tone Carver, which is real nice as well.

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

@@erictripton I am but I think I couldn't get it to work or something like that. I'll have to check cuz it's been a while

[@johnnyh64]

Wow! What a great resource of information! Thank you so much for putting this out there and keeping the links current! Holdsworth sound has been elusive for so long. I still need to find a stomp but once I do, this will be put to good use. Thanks a lot!

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Thats great to read!! Exactly why I wanted to make this video. :)

[@dstrats]

This was an amazing video and answered soooo much! Thanks so very much for being such a fan of AH and really researching just what he used to get that amazing sound! I knew it wasn’t just his signature stomp box that was released maybe 2-3 years before he passed away. This was so helpful. I mainly run DVMark amps, but maybe I should go for a old Yamaha amp instead. Lol Wow Thank you so much.

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Thanks! Yea that pedal he did use as a clean boost for leads. He changed a lot of the little detaily stuff I'm not super familiar with but the core of his sound has pretty much been the same. Even when endorsed by other amps, he was using them clean and running the MS thru it. Dunno if I mentioned that

[@jhep1]

Another brilliant contribution to the Houldsworth community, many thanks for this John. Need to catch up on all your videos, have been 'off grid' for a while. Wish I had seen this before I got rid of my MS. Got a Axe Fx ii soon after getting it and decided I could do everything I wanted with that and Derryl kindly gave me some patches. Would be really interested to hear it used with a matrix transistor like amp and real cab. I think the axe fx can sometimes sound a bit plasticy doing this, whilst amazing over a PA. It obviously worked for Allan so must be great. Also interested to see how it with a FRFR cab.

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Thank you so much! You can always get another one :). Allan always used his with cab sim off so I dunno how close using an FRFR cab would get to his sound.

[@richardweidner1625]

thanks for generously sharing your magic stomp files! greatly appreciated

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

No prob!

[@NicknLex]

Thanks so much for the video. Does it matter what Magic Stomp I purchase? You did show clearly how to change it to the guitar one. Should I just go with the cheapest I find? I cant believe this info!! I am so happy to be subbed to your channel!! Best Holdsworth resource and theory info on the internet!!

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Thank you! Yes literally anyone will work. I have one in every type/color (Purple-guitar, gold-acoustic, black-bass) all with guitar presets. Allan started using the black ones cuz he started to get sick of the 'eggplants' haha

[@NicknLex]

@@TurrigenousOfficial haha I think I am getting an eggplant. The cheapest I could find is for $210. I guess they are going up in value. But I have been saving for a while so it's all good!! Thanks again for the fast response. Love your channel 🤘

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

No prob, thanks for watching! 😁

[@joseph2707]

Great initiative. Good video. You're very dedicated. Keep it up!

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Thanks!

[@-despair]

Thanks for making this. Just picked one up and this helped me get up and running

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Great! Glad I can help. Enjoy it 😀

[@mashcot]

Great video ! I set up my MS some years ago to get that Lead tone, it works great. I also bought a DG1000 preamp and to my surprise it didn't sound as good as the MS.

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Thank you! That's interesting to know as they should be identical

[@mashcot]

@@TurrigenousOfficial Yes that's what I thought too, hence my surprise :) But actually Chip told me in the FB group that Allan prefered the MS over the DG series, and that he had to struggle a bit more with the Eq when he was using the latter.

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

@@mashcot interesting! I wish chip would post much more. He is a treasure trove of invaluable information

[@mentoneman]

@@mashcot i had the dg80 and the msII at the same time and i agree it’s easier to get closer to the fully realized lead sound with the pedal but it needs some boosting. Saw AH when he first started using the yamaha stuff and his tone wasn’t so hot, but years later once he dialed in the dg1000 rig he was back to insane and as good as any time i’ve seen him. Last time i saw him was NAMM/Sabian with Virgil and the MS/HK rig, and he seemed to struggle that night.

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

@@mentoneman The boost does help, as well as cutting certain high end frequencies.

[@mattdunnefilm]

As you know another lead sound Allan used live for several tours from 2017 and previous is a Hughes and Kettner head placed on the floor behind the pair of H&K clean Switchblade 50 combos. The head set dimed>AH Harness or juice extractor>line level out to a dbx compressor>any one of several rack mounted power amp>bottom cabinets>Sennheiser e906 with bass roll of switch.)

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

I was always under the impression those HK amps were only used clean and the lead sound was always from the MS

[@hughjorgen5588]

@@TurrigenousOfficial The lead sound was most definitely from the MagicStomp.

[@vogelschrik5232]

Thanks john, just what I needed.

[@Tmidiman]

Good stuff! I’ve got 2 MagicStomps, but I’ve also gotten pretty good at getting the lead tone from other gear. Next I’m working on how to get the clean sound from other gear. I already have one example that’s working. But getting the MS works great!

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

I forgot to add in the video but I didn't think it was a big deal, but Allan said in a clinic that he didn't really care about a clean sound. "Clean is clean". Although I don't agree 100% those were his sentiments. I suppose just using a Fender Twin or Deluxe would be good enough for that!

[@lukedoyle]

@@TurrigenousOfficial I’d say Allan’s comment makes perfect sense in reference to his own clean sound. Great video. A couple of things though. First, the GK pickup is not a “MIDI pickup” - it’s a divided pickup or a hex pickup; it does not produce MIDI. The VG-8 did not use or generate pitch-to-MIDI data but rather relied on individual string signals from the 6 discrete mini humbuckers which were then processed individually. Second, and I may be wrong, but I’m pretty sure that in the Yamaha gear period Allan always used two amps, not four. He did always have four speakers though; two in the combos (for stereo clean amplification) and two external cabs (driven by an external power amp for his stereo lead sound)...though I’m vastly oversimplifying this.

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

@@lukedoyle Didn't know that about the GK! I have that pickup and I was always told it was a 'midi' pickup. Secondly you could be right about the cabs. I think before moving to the Magicstomps/Yamaha stuff, he was using 2 different amps for clean/lead and 2 amps between them. Afterwards, he might have just used 4 speakers then and I just didn't notice. Thanks for watching the video and the clarifications!

[@JohnMurphy-fm2ru]

Used his recto for 16 men of tane and hardhat area. He might’ve been experimenting during recording And live with the DG while he was getting used to it Used the roland instead of synth axe The UD stomp and the magic stomp was based on his settings for the rack mounted 8x D 1500s although he did he use a Roland SDE 2000 in place of one of the Yamaha D1500s towards the end of using the rack 12:42 Which I have from his studio from the late 90s At one point, he used up to 10 five and five He used them in live mode where you could set three presets-one per foot switch So he had 30 presets 15 clean and 15 lead presets available (Including any swell, option) at any given moment for him to use and he didn’t like things on the floor so he put them up above the rack -so it wouldn’t clutter his space on stage

[@jbognap]

Thanks for this - I didn't know about flashing the MagicStomp AG and Bass. I could prattle on, but one thing to mention is that it is desirable to cut the bass on the amp model, so the distortion is tighter, then you can add the bass balls back with an eq after the amp model. AH used a parametric EQ after the DG-1000. There is probably a way to do that on the MStump. I wish it had MIDI, so patch changes could be coordinated. And yes, the DG-80 was heavy as hell. 🥴

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

I was just looking up those eq settings on the TC1140! I dont know how significant it makes it as to me the MS is already close enough to be pleased with

[@jbognap]

@@TurrigenousOfficial I was waiting to hear you play with that lead tone 😉

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

@@jbognap Haha sorry! The video was starting to get long but I figured this wasn't going to be a review video on it, but wanted to document Allans relationship with Yamaha, and what the MS did and how to set it up/use it since that info can't be found online easily.

[@lunastrat]

I have a Yamaha DG-80 one 12 combo that I bought on Allan's recommendation. It is very heavy. It has motorized control knobs that move by themselves. This makes it a lot heavier.

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

I've heard that they're very heavy!

[@RandyBass]

Great video! If anyone is looking for a Yamaha MagicStomp, hit me up.

[@raultizze]

Turrigenous thank you for the amazing information you are putting out! I thought if it would be possible that I could send you a sine sweep so you can pass it through the magic stomp unit, so I can recreate it in a daw or create a plugin exactly as it is, just for the clean and lead. Thank you!

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Thank you so much. Also you can call me John! I wouldn't know how to do that with the sine sweep, but you should def get a Magic Stomp and capture it that way.

[@DrewCreal]

Amazing video dude great job 👍👍👍

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Thanks!

[@smooth_jazz_escola]

I got a tone very close to his tone lead using a G1 zoom on.....I'll record a video soon.

[@siriusra2692]

....thanks....I saw an acoustic magicstomp....months ago...I didn't buy it because it wasn't electric guitar .... didn't know you could transfer electric to acoustic....

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Wonder if it was the same one I bought haha. Now you know and can grab one for cheap!

[@siriusra2692]

@@TurrigenousOfficial ......you just may have bought the one I was looking at.......haha😀😀

[@We-all-watched-the-video]

My magicstomp mkII fried last night 😢 was my favourite pedal I’ve had to settle for the mk1 - does yours ever get hot to the touch?

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Ah that sucks! I don't use it often but I have heard that people have made vents for it to help cool it. FWIW the I and II aren't that much different. II just has a headphone jack and 2.10 firmware already installed

[@We-all-watched-the-video]

@@TurrigenousOfficialcheers!

[@lucasandrade4960]

thanks my dear friend !!!

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Thank you for watching!

[@lucasandrade4960]

@@TurrigenousOfficial i have yamaha guitar effects and win 10 , i cant do like in video here .

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

@@lucasandrade4960 sorry bud, cant help. It is possible, check the comments.

[@robertvetter1011]

I don't think he used the Amp Multi patch type. More likely he used the amp simulator patch type. It has the advantage that the whole DSP processor power goes into the amp simulation and no other effect.

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

It's quite possible. I dont think we'll fully know without the actual patches or Chip Flynn spills his secrets. I know Allan didnt use any of the effect but did have them work on a noise gate. I'm not sure if that's in the amp sim setting. Does using one or the other actually have that much more effect on the tone?

[@leebarbour]

I just purchased a UD stomp and love the presets. The sound is great but it's not very practical for my board due to the size. The Magicstomp has a smaller footprint, for sure. I'm just wondering if there is anything you're aware of that isn't twenty year old technology that lets you dial in those ms delays? Can you get that Holdsworth lead sound with 4 delays? Or 2? I have other delays that I like to use. I don't need the longer ones, just the ones that affect the stereo spread. If not, can one Magicstomp provide that ms stereo spread? Thanks for any help...I haven't been able to find much of anything online. And thanks for this channel! I've learned so much about Allan from you 🙏

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Thank you! 4 sounds like it would be enough, but as a stompbox, I don't think so. I think zoom made a very small pedal that could do it but I totally forgot what the name was.

[@leebarbour]

@@TurrigenousOfficial MS-50G Multistomp?

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Yea that's it! I think that unit or one of the ones related to it can. I was thinking about getting it and completely forgot

[@leebarbour]

@@TurrigenousOfficial Yeah I actually had one laying around and tried it. It works really well! However, my tone is highly compromised when the Zoom unit is on. There is supposed to be true bypass when it's off but the unit itself sounds pretty terrible. I'm gonna have to A/B the UD and the Zoom to see how they compare.

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Ah interesting. Thanks for the heads up

[@bradking1107]

Dang you didn't play with the sound 🪁 wanted to hear the HONK🎸🔊cudos for sharing the tunes❤️🤘

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Yea sorry. Didnt wanna make this into a tone review. The vid is long enough too haha

[@bradking1107]

@@TurrigenousOfficial yeah, I sat through the whole thing just to hear the HONK 🎷📢

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

@@bradking1107 haha sorry!

[@bradking1107]

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[@StephenScottMusic]

Would have been great of you to demo those sounds John

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Yea sorry about that! Maybe if a lot of people really wanted to hear it, I'll make a short video.

[@StephenScottMusic]

Hope so, I think it would be awesome!

[@goldenultra]

Did not know u do not need a laptop to edit stuff. Though I did the editing on my laptop many years ago. Been playing with moonwalk, every breath u take and rich stereo delay, this is a factory preset - don't know who made these patches? . Though out of the default presets I like the battery amp 0ne best. Though 1 tip let it rest every 15 minutes to avoid temperature issues,or switch effects off if you go for a break. Will look at your patches. Updated my presets OK, I get into it. There is a 64 bit driver for windows 7 which works with windows 8.1. Install in x compatible mode but keep it connected to the MS. Very easy. But it did not work for me as I had effects off. Scratched my head, put effects on and it worked. Update 2 To move patches like AH lead you have to copy each patch individually, then it paste it your own library. So it takes a couple of hours. But the download with this video has Alan's chorus and lead, and 3 vintage delay, with extra presets using 8 band parellel delay created by video uploader. The leads AH and doubler preset made by video uploader, thanks give him a thumbs up and subscribe do seem to work for another brick in the wall solo. Update 3 The John 5 presets are official and there are 10. But each preset has to be added individually. So it will take some time. Update 4 It does have many unofficial presets, like purple haze which seems to sound true, every breath u take, invincible sun.

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Glad to see it worked out!

[@stevesmith5434]

Thank you so much for this information!

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

You're welcome! Thanks for watching

[@trapkat8213]

Incredibly interesting

[@mostresticator5]

YES

[@tjm9565]

You should offer this service if people send you their magic stomp

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Haha I don't think I can accept money for something like that unless they're REALLY insistent!

[@augustusbetucius2931]

I'm a little confused. You have referred many times to his delay sound. Are you including his multi-delay chorus sound? He definitely used the multiple delays to create his chorus sound. He was very clear and specific about that in a Guitar Player magazine interview many years ago. He was the reason I began using multi-voice choruses instead of vintage style/single voice chorus. Maybe this is being nit picky, although I don't mean it that way. He definitely used multiple delays to create his chorus sound, even though it was surprisingly subtle for having eight voices.

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Yeah perhaps that's it. From the 6 MS he used, one was labeled "Chorus". Thats what he used for his clean guitar chord playing. It was still the 8 band delays, but with short lead times. They were included in the UD stomp and then carried over to the MS. The other was a lead sound, the other was "UD Echo" which is was swells. The other was delay for his lead sound. The last 2 were for FX and the other a backup.

[@JohnMurphy-fm2ru]

Used his recto for 16 mins of tame and hardhat area. Use the roland instead of synth axe not because he didn’t like the sound of his guitar The UD stomp and the magic stomp was based on his settings for the rack mounted D 1500 Which I have from his studio late 90s

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Ah!!

[@fmogini]

Great video, thanks. Allan's lead had a soft attack, almost swell but fast enough to play fast lines…I wonder if the noise gate setting did eliminate some of the attack transients? also there is a parameter for noise gate attack, could that be part of that characteristic sound?…does anyone know more about this by any chance? Thank you

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Thank you! Its possible. I think a lot of those details have still been kept secret and not disclosed. If I remembered correctly, Allan had Yamaha update their noise gates for him but I believe those updates were never officially released.

[@MhaseveTetseo]

Just curious. Was Allan still using the TC Electronics' Line Booster+ Distortion Unit with the MS? Thanks 🙌🏻

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

I believe he was, at least for a little bit but im not 100% sure. If he did it prob was just a boost for more volume to the MS units

[@MhaseveTetseo]

@@TurrigenousOfficial Right! The MS settings which AH shared had pretty low gain. Probably that Booster helps in adding a little more juice.

[@HH-js9ps]

Thank you, thank you, thank you

[@JonesyTheCat]

Great info! May I ask, is it possible to achieve Allan's lead sound on BOSS GT-100 or Zoom G3? Thanks!

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Thank you! Probably but I'm not familiar with them. The sound is quite dark and I think the key is boosting those high and low mids. I'm not sure what those frequency ranges are though

[@pobinr]

As an AH fan for the last 43 yrs i decided to try & get his sound from my HF2 & magistomp. To save messing around trying to interface to my Mac, can i just dial up the settings he did & save as presets? If someone has a list of what the settings are?

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

If that download link is still working in the description, it should be in the UD pdf. UD for the Yamaha UD stomp. As mentioned in the vid, if your magic stomp has firmware 2.10, you can edit on board. Itll just take a while since it wasnt intended to be edited from the unit itself, but on a computer

[@CrisOriol]

No bragging…. I knew Allan . His sound was 90% his power solid state amp. I think it was 200w ? And lots of boxes made by him witch were mostly filters I didn’t understand too much of what he explained to me….. he wasn’t into gear much He just loved his DeLap which had an enormous neck with a 20 radius. He also had almost 99% of the time an TC old line booster and rack TC eq (green) from the 80 90s ….. but again he depended of his little crazy boxes witch is a shame no one took the time to ask him what all that was. I’m not engineered so that I just know that he had that , the power amp and the right filters to connect everything in the same right impedance or whatever the word is lol 😂 And one pedal dedicated for ever effect he wanted . That’s why he had so manny . I’m leaving something but it was mostly that. Not quite simple if we don’t know exactly what everything was for. Great channel man ! Thanks for keeping his memory alive . Keep that passion .

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Thanks! Yea i dont know all those details but im sure someone does.

[@IsaacLausell]

What a wonderful video. I think he had the best lead sound I have heard live. Do you know if he would plug the magic stomp he used for lead through the front of the amp or in the loop? Did these contain a speaker sim? I was wondering how he used them when recording. I did see him playing in Texas sometime around 2003 using two DG stomps and two volume pedals but I can’t remember if he brought anything else with him. When I saw him in NY maybe around 2008 he already had the magic stomps and Hughes and Kettner amp.

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Thank you!! I dunno how he used the MS. I wanna say he used the power section only so probably thru the fx loop. Cab Sim was off. I asked about that. Interesting about the DG stomps. Probably because he didn't want to lug the combos as they were pretty heavy and was before the MS was created.

[@IsaacLausell]

@@TurrigenousOfficial thanks for the info, that makes sense. The time I saw him in Texas he also came to our school and plugged into some Hot Rod Devilles and still sounded like a champ. I think its the best those amps have every sounded in the entire history of the line!

[@gregdavidson5898]

I'm incompetent. I do have a Lap with XP on it, I think you said you should XP?. What if I send you my Magic Stomp and you do all the programming for a fee?

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

I think there are other ways to do it. Thats just the only thing I know that works for me. I could do it if you really want to. Did you at least try to follow my steps hooking everything up? All the files and programs you need should be in the link in the description. Its possible it may have expired so if it did let me know.

[@richardweidner1625]

great stuff, thanks

[@pangea2003]

Many thanks for the thoughtful video! I have just purchased my first MS now! :) However, I still got one question: with the 2.10 firmware loaded, can I load and mix presets from the different MS pedals onto my single pedal (e.g. acoustic, bass and guitar presets)?? Cheers

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Good question. Im about 99% sure you can not. Once it has the guitar preset, thats it. Although I believe the guitar one DOES have a few acoustic ones in there (Labeled AG in the presets). But as far as I know there aren't any bass ones in the guitar one.

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Oh just having looked, I was right but you CAN create patches for bass as there is a "Bass preamp". You MIGHT be able to make them yourself or use the presets in the 'bass/guitar/acoustic' settings in the sound editor and drag them to your user presets.

[@pangea2003]

@@TurrigenousOfficial thanks for your reply! i hope to receive the pedal next week. Although, I have managed to download your files and installed the yamaha MS software on my pc. Obviously, i cannot test it without the pedal yet. But I can see three different tabs with presets corresponding to the different MS types: One tab with the Guitar presets, One tab with the bass presets and one tab with the acoustic presets. Can i send individual presets to the pedal or just the whole bulk of 99 presets? if i can send individual presets then i might be able to mix the different types (acoustic, guitar and bass) right? Unless, the actual hardware of the pedals is DIFFERENT. Surely, the color for each MS pedal version is different. Even though, everybody claims that all the pedals share the same exact hardware.. And I haven't found different firmware files for each pedal.. (firmware for the acoustic, bass and guitar..). do they share the same firmware? v2.10 is the latest firmware for the guitar version of the MS or for all the pedals? Sorry for all the questions but I'm very intrigued to find out :) Cheers!

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

@@pangea2003 Im not an expert at these, but the hardware for each is the same. The 2.10 firmware is really just the same BUT they have different presets. Acoustic has acoustic ones, Bass has bass, etc. Im not entire sure if you can send them from the tab. I think you can do one at a time or all. I have never tried though. I really just wanted to set it up with those UD stomp patches and Allans lead tone. Let me know what end up happening and glad you got those files!

[@pangea2003]

@@TurrigenousOfficial thanks man, i'll spend some time exploring all the options with the software when i receive the pedal next week :) And Thanks so much for sharing, and putting all those files together!

[@SixStringFiasco]

Given that this was a unit made by Yamaha prior to their acquisition of Line6, would not have been surprised if Holdsworth became a Helix user had it not been for his passing. Yamaha really upped Line6's reputation

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

I remember the line 6 stuff back in the day. I didn't realize they bought line 6. I should give some of their stuff another chance

[@SixStringFiasco]

@@TurrigenousOfficial Definitely! Also, love your videos. Your knowledge on Holdsworth is incredible.

[@gregdavidson5898]

A few years ago I bought a used MagicStomp UD99. There was no CD rom included. I was thinking, of course I can't play like Holdsworth, but at least I could get the soloing tone he often used. I didn't know if it be used to get his chord tones, but I would be happy to get the solo tone. I have no idea how to use it except to plug it in and run through the presets. No Holdsworth sounds and I wouldn't know where/how to make or get a patch to do so. First of all, do I need the "included" CD-ROM that I didn't get? And could I find it online and d/l and then what? How/where would I update the thing and as you can see I haven't got a clue. TIA

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

You dont need the CD because all those files have been uploaded to the net. Did you read the description and download the files in the link I shared? If the link is dead let me know

[@gregdavidson5898]

@@TurrigenousOfficial The link is still good. I don't know what to do with a Ub9 file. Sorry, I'm 69. I've been playing Blues most of my life and can use simple pedals. I'm not stupid I just like playing and never got into programming stuff (or I'd buy a Line 6 Helix). I see the USB port in the back of the pedal. I'm going to go to some website, or these downloads from your link and load them into my Magicstomp? I know, some eye rolls out there, but there must be a few people like me. I'm on the verge of embarrassment here.

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

@@gregdavidson5898 Did you watch my video thoroughly? I pretty much go through every step you need to in order to hook everything up, including how to actually get Allans lead tone. In fact if you have the 2.10 firmware, you can create that patch directly from the MagicStomp. Its just a pain to do. All the files and software you'll need will be in that link I added. The only issue I can think of is if your computer can't run the sound editor (because the program is pretty old. It was intended for Windows XP). Or if you're using a mac. But there are ways to get around that. Also if you have facebook, you can always go to the Yamaha MagicStomp group where you can get everything and ask more specific questions. But I strongly suggest watching my whole video.

[@Biggerbyte]

Why didn't he just keep using the UD instead of having to have six pedals. I could be wrong, but it looks as if it is a marketing thing with yamaha. Yamaha discontinued the UD and moved onto the magicstomp.. Magicstomps were readily available for purchase.

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

That was basically it since the MS has the UD stuff and the DG stuff. Also 6 were easier to travel with, than lugging the DG combo or rack mounted head

[@ilay829]

Hi, just bought one. My computer won’t recognise it as a device and I cannot download a midi driver since it the computer dosen’t recognise the magic stomp. Can you the yamaha midi radio file you have so I’ll try this one?

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

All the files I have are in the link in the description. Pretty sure the Yamaha Midi radio installation file is in there

[@GastMusike]

Hi, thanks for taking the time to do this but I think the sound editor is missing from the folder. Is they any chance you could put it back up?

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Should be the "MagicStompSetup.zip" folder, no?

[@GastMusike]

@@TurrigenousOfficial That folder is there, bit the file inside does not install the editor.

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

I think I covered that in the video that it needs to be opened in Windows XP mode, or there's some new software that's compatible with newer operating systems. For more info go to the Magic Stomp Frenzy Facebook group

[@GastMusike]

@@TurrigenousOfficial OK, Thank you.

[@maxroger5618]

With the MS for bass, you can convert the same software for the A.H sound?

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Yes. Any one can turn into any one. Think of the difference between them as just the color and stock presets.

[@maxroger5618]

@@TurrigenousOfficial thank you!

[@jhep1]

Please someone post a video with this going through an amp and cab!

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Maybe I can do a short video with some of the settings I posted? Wouldn't take long

[@vizzo7]

@@TurrigenousOfficial please do it. Would you recommend the ud stomps or dg stomps or magic stomp finally?

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

@@vizzo7 The UD stomps are fine but just incredibly expensive. The DG stomp you won't be able to get Allans sound because it doesn't have the High and Low Mid settings. Allan has actually said he prefered the Magic Stomps over the sound of the rack and combo amps.

[@suenasagrera7075]

Sorry but... In my Unit the stomp says "UB99 P.Load V1.0" and Im soupossed the frimeware is not the correct. Can you sendme the Update magicstomp Firmware to the V2? and if not, you explaned me how are conect the unit with the pc with verssion 1. becouse the pc and the stomp not talking.

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

The 2.10 firmware is in the link in the description. Any other issues you're having, I can't really help. I'm not a computer tech haha. Go to the magic stop Facebook group

[@aferreyrola]

Hey, where can i download the firmware UB99 Midi firmware from? I have an acoustic one that i want to convert to electric. thx.

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Should be a link in the description

[@aferreyrola]

@@TurrigenousOfficial yeah, i saw it after i wrote. thx man this is gonna be killer.

[@bangersnmash4856]

As regards using xp if you don't have it. Could you not run xp on a virtual machine ? Thanks for the up load very interesting

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

You can which is what I did. But i've been told it CAN work on Windows 10, but unsure if you need different drivers I did not include.

[@lushkordz6643]

Hey, im looking 4 a supposedly existing UD Stomp PC Editor which i heard about on a GearPage's Post Does anyone out there know where to get it coz i have fortunately acquired this nice piece of kit

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Should be in the files I uploaded. Or go to the magic stomp Facebook page

[@lushkordz6643]

@@TurrigenousOfficial is it the MS Editor Zip file ? Does it still works on Win10 ? with a MIDI 2 USB interface ? im so impatient to start tweaking this Graalish Delay i found these days by luck in my country 4 under 300 bucks ....thanks you John 4 your great work :) BTW do you think the MS is able to recreate all the Chorus/Delay type of the UDS ....i guess no! the MS is simplified version of UDS Delays with other MFX algorithms ?

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

@@lushkordz6643 The Sound Editor for the MS is included with those files in the description. It can work with Windows 10 but I can't remember how. It could just be as easy as running the sound editor in "Compatibility Mode" with Win XP. Also the MS is the exact same as the UD stomp. The MS Stomp just has more stuff. Did you watch this video in full? I go over a lot of those things and how Yamaha created the Magic Stomp by combining its current modelings/delays into one pedal.

[@lushkordz6643]

@@TurrigenousOfficial ok many thanks im gonna watch the video again :) so the UDS editor is gonna look like the MS ...not bad at all ^^ Im gonna wait to catch one of these MS coz they R pretty cheap these days .....did you get in your hands the UDS ? 4 Delays (&Mods) FX purpose the UDS should be more powerful ?

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

@@lushkordz6643 I never used the UD but I cant imagine it being any better

[@jeromeweissmann8350]

On windows 10 i can use the Sound Editor for MAGICSTOMP. How come you need XP ?

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Thats what it originally ran on. I think I tried using them and it didn't work. I use Windows 7 so maybe its easier for Win10 or when I tried it a couple of years ago, they didn't have the right drivers to make it compatible. That's at least good news for anyone trying to edit the patches! I got mine to work now and I'm not messing with it haha.

[@jeromeweissmann8350]

@@TurrigenousOfficial run it as administrator

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

@@jeromeweissmann8350 That's great to know! That much more simple. I know on mine I had to do XP mode but I suppose its easier on 10. I've been hesitant to upgrade to 10 cuz I wasnt sure what programs wont work.

[@ziegunerweiser]

All due respect I dare say personally I think holdsworth's best sound was early 90's secrets era mesa boogie tones, the best sounding amp I ever heard was the mark 3, I think it was the 1990 guitar player article he was talking about how the amp could change your tone from an eeeh to an oaah pr something like that I cant remember, he also mentioned using the 50 caliber which I used to have one, there is something very unique about the sound of those amps, I want to say more of a "spongey" tone. Of course it's all a matter of taste...

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

I really like that sound too! ALlan was using the Dual Rec even in 1996, but just for portability he switched. Also I dont know if I said this in the video but I THINK Allan actually helped design the actual lead tones used for the Yamaha. Which makes sense why he used it so much. Its exactly what he wanted!

[@jfo3000]

Turrogenous, Do you know the frequencies of the lo-mid and hi-mid controls? Thanks!

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

No but I wish I did! I tried looking in the manuals and such

[@aferreyrola]

healp. I reach to the point that the magic stomp says now waiting. I download the midi driver and the midi radio (and select the yamaha ms1 on it) i drag the file ub99mk2 but nothing is happening on the magic stomp, it keaps on now waiting

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

You have to play it

[@aferreyrola]

@@TurrigenousOfficial yeha, its playing but the unit doesnt change. it keaps on now waiting

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

@aferreyrola sorry dude, no idea. Join the magic stomp Facebook group. Maybe you're missing a driver or something

[@aferreyrola]

@@TurrigenousOfficial im there. thx for the healp

[@aferreyrola]

just umpluged and pluged again, seams to work. its now recibing! one step closer! hahahaha

[@vizzo7]

regarding the set of the amps. When you dial in the distortion/lead sound of the magic stomp do activiate the gain in your amp. How are eq settings on amps or at least in which ballpark should the eq and gain dialed in?

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

This is a great question that I unfortunately do not have the answer to. Because Allan was renting amps on tour that were different types, I would imagine the eq settings would be flat or slightly adjusted depending on the room

[@vizzo7]

@@TurrigenousOfficial ok, but the gain was not used to put the amp to the limit of breaking in right?

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

@@vizzo7 No, the amps were always clean. Any distortion came direct from the MS. Even his booster pedal that has OD on it, I think Allan ONLY ever used it as a clean signal boost. I suppose to get his sound almost exact, it would probably be easier to use the Yamaha DG combos and head.

[@vizzo7]

@@TurrigenousOfficial you are probably right. but still it amazes me how clean his legato sounded

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

@@vizzo7The tone helps a lot, but also a lot is in the hands. Having super low action and thin strings all help. His left hand was more like how a piano player plays the keys really. So with strings that low with that action, its a lot of hand control and finesse from years of playing.

[@spiderguy7799]

Hey just wondering i can't find the magicstomp sound editor files, they don't seem to be in the link provided, thanks!

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Thanks for the message. It should be there in another zip file. Double check. Else you can prob find it in the Yamaha Magic Stomp Facebook group

[@spiderguy7799]

@@TurrigenousOfficialYeah i've double checked and it's not there, but i'll check the facebook if they accept me into it haha. Thanks for the help

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

That strange. Anyway shouldn't be too tough to get. The midi players the hardest

[@Laburnus]

Did you maybe have a problem with your unit, that after pressing store and Thant on/off it jumped straight to patch name change ? Mine does that, and I ha e bad feeling this is cause of the firmware, and changing it will be quite complicated.

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Hmmm I don't think so. The only issue I have is one of the units I have the input jack makes some noise.

[@Laburnus]

@@TurrigenousOfficial just checked my units formate version 1.07, I'm most likely forced to update it .. this is going to be fun....

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

@@Laburnus Well the updated firmware shouldn't do much aside from being able to create patches directly on the unit instead of using the program.

[@qbleu]

fix file please :(( can make editor work ive tried everything installed an XP virtual machine even file must be bad (i hope)

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Everything I uploaded is what I used. You should join the Yahama Magic Stomp Facebook group. They have more files and people who can help

[@herrsitar]

Can this unit do the delay thing as good as the ud stomp does it? The thick tone with 8 different delays.

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

It does! That's what I got it for and that's what Allan used to replace the UDs. One of the MS presets is actually that swell sound he used.

[@herrsitar]

@@TurrigenousOfficial thank you, that’s great! I’ll buy one!

[@MrThomas1958]

thx

[@ilay829]

Hi, what yamah pedal produces these sound today? Since I’m sadly no longer able to get a magic stomp.

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Sorry to hear that. For the amp sounds you'd need a Yamaha dg series amp and for the delays a UD Stomp but they're very expensive

[@ilay829]

@@TurrigenousOfficialI said that I cannot get one since they stopped making it. Did they really stop or am I trippin?

[@ilay829]

@@TurrigenousOfficialwhere do you think that I might be able to get this pedal?

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Yamaha stopped making the magic stomp almost 20 years ago. They got bought out by Line 6 so they still have the tech they just need go release something. You'd have to find one used on ebay

[@ilay829]

⁠@@TurrigenousOfficialthe helix line 6 will get me these sounds? Or will it not sound the same?

[@peterschaefer1665]

The only problem with this unit is that there isn't a midi input for patch changing.

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Yeah. It was way ahead of its time. I can only hope Yamaha re-releases this as a better, more versatile unit. Like being able to use multiple patches at ones (8 band delay with amp sims) etc.

[@BernardGuy]

Peter, someone in the Facebook MS group is working on a MIDI compatible unit for the MS. If I recall rightly, it's the same guy who created a new editor for it called MagicstompFrenzy.

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

@@BernardGuy I'm a part of that group too. Its still a work in progress but it is promising, although a bit of work.

[@BernardGuy]

@@TurrigenousOfficial It does look promising, and it looks like he will pull it off. Let's see-as the blind said.

[@dcthegreatest24]

What type usb cable does it use?

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

The original fat USB type. I think its called USB-B

[@Clamgtr]

I own a MagicStomp Acoustic ( the golden one)... It features basically the same eft as the guitar and bass versions, but when I try to use the delays alone (or any other of the single efx banks) I get a dramatic change on volume... it's never the same as bypass. Does it have anything related to firmware ??? Hope one could give any hint on how to fix this ! (hope I don' thave to deal with firmware because I only have IOS... it will be a nightmare to find a windows machine to do so... I rather edit the eft straight on MagicStomp...

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Oh, I have no idea. That doesn't sound right. I know it isn't true bypass, but there shouldn't be a drastic change in volume. I think there's a low/high input switch on the back. Could be that. Or because it's acoustic, it's leveled differently because a peizo is more sensitive?

[@Clamgtr]

@@TurrigenousOfficial ...hummm... never thought about being designed for piezo systems...Never tested the low/high input switch as well. Actually always thought that doesn't make much sense since I was running a od pedal before magicstomp, to apply it only as my delays, and that was when I noticed that engaging the delays, the volume drop off was too big to be ignored...(imagine during a solo ) Anyway.. thanks for your answer and attention ! If I get to solve that, I let you know !!! Claudio, from Brazil..

[@Clamgtr]

@@TurrigenousOfficial By the way, when playing acoustics, using the mic emulation to smooth out that harsh piezo sound we all disgust, this unit works perfectly fine. When doing so, I keep the same preset the whole time so there's no volume issues...

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Hmm, maybe it's something that's inside the firmware for acoustic guitars then. Otherwise, no idea. Get another one for electric guitar 🙂

[@Clamgtr]

@@TurrigenousOfficial Yes... seriously considering that... I'll just make some more tests before... and as soon as I check all the variations I will let you know. Your video about this gear is too cool to not take advantage... MagicStomp efx are a top notch quality with very low investment nowadays...

[@amclw]

FIle link no longer working for me....

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Thank you for the heads up. It looks like either TinyUpload is down or was shut down. I will try to find other free alternative.

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Ok files added. Hopefully it works. Let me know!

[@boimesa8190]

So why upgrade the firmware??

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Upgrading the firmware to 2.10 will allow you to control and modify the patches directly on the unit, although its a bit of a nuisance. Without it, you can only modify it by hooking it up to a computer, which is easier, but hard to do if your computer cant recognize it or open up the sound editor.

[@boimesa8190]

@@TurrigenousOfficial what makes this multifx better than others though??

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

@@boimesa8190 Mostly its delays. The lead sounds I think we're actually crafted by Allan as well, which at the time I didn't know. This unit just really combines the DG guitar amp sounds and UD delay sounds into one pedal. The UD delay if still pretty expensive, where as this can do the same thing but almost 1/5th the price.

[@boimesa8190]

@@TurrigenousOfficial what's the UD delay?

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

@@boimesa8190 the Yamaha UD stomp delay. It's pretty expensive now because of its delay. It uses 8 bands of delay so you can create some real cool stuff with it. Check it out on youtube!

[@TorsteinJN]

Does anyone know which amps the Lead-amps in the magicstomp was based on?

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

IIRC Lead 1 is a Marshall. I THINK Lead 2 is a Mesa Boogie

[@TorsteinJN]

@@TurrigenousOfficial think you're right :)

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

@@TorsteinJN Good guess on my part haha. I do know that info is out there though!

[@JohnVullo]

3:03

[@winstonsmith8240]

I'm old, my computer's old 🤔, might work.

[@NikoBeridze]

hello from can u give me a link of magicsomp ub99 for electric guitar ?i cant find it ... for update of course

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

All files should be in the description

[@NikoBeridze]

For electirc guitar magistomp not for acoustic you are using acoustic… i have magicstomp for electric guitar

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Doesn't matter, they're all the same. The files included are for electric guitar and have electric guitar patches

[@NikoBeridze]

@@TurrigenousOfficial thank u i am updating now… one more question how can i output my own sound ?

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

You'll need to do it with the software. With the 2.10 patch you can from your magic stomp directly. Should all be in the video

[@Zenpointmediastudio]

Man I dig your videos ! .. watched most if not all the Holdsworth related ! wowza ! -- I've emulated the ud-stomp Allan sounds in my most recent episode of my BOSS MS-3 Deep Dive series: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bnqWoX-NoJVsbbMsi=ifCX88OUvmHiEJqq Boss MS-3 Deep Dive: 7 Tap Delay, Can it UD-STOMP like Allan Holdsworth? I was inspired by your vid/s and up for the challenge as that's what my series is about.. pushing the gear you have to the limit and creative programming/use of fx. Keep up the great work, it's appreciated by us Allan freaks!

[@pobinr]

Darned if I can get my magicstomp to connect with my Mac. I'm prepared to post it to & pay anyone who can load AH presets onto it for me

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Go to the Yamaha Magic Stomp Facebook page. There should be a way. Or, ditch the Mac 😋

[@Happy-Me.]

I have a DG Stomp but never use it.

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Still dunno why they removed the high/low mid knobs just for one mid knob.

[@BungleJoogie68]

(Offers corn chip for the algorithm)

[@johnnyboy13131]

Anyway to get the sound editor without the original CD-rom?

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

I believe I included it in the files in the link in the description. Also if you upgrade to the 2.10 firmware, you can edit directly on the unit. It's just harder

[@johnnyboy13131]

@@TurrigenousOfficial ok thanks. I was able to upgrade the firmware to 2.10 following your method using midiradio. Is there a way to transfer Holdsworth’s patches using midiradio as well?

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

@@johnnyboy13131 Well you can do it by hand because you can find the settings used but strongly suggest using the software if you can

[@goldenultra]

@@johnnyboy13131 You just use the program. But each preset can be tested by double click the preset, u have to copy each preset and paste it into your user library then after a couple of hours you export to the MS. U do not need xp works with Windows 8.1, but if using Windows 10 install to directory C.

[@h0tsex0r]

Never knew about this Jesus cant believe its been 26 years since None Too Soon, where has the time gone

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Exactly why I did this video! I had just picked up the guitar when NTS was recorded haha

[@antoinesguitar]

😮

[@joycesanders4898]

..out the window.

[@mikaelandersson6662]

The VST delay version of the UD Stomp ! drive.google.com/file/d/1NGCwmuQzySXmTig1SG6U0njDEC_05bJL/view?usp=sharing

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

Great, thank you! I think I have this already but this may have been an updated version.

[@madbugger69]

you should have plugged in and played a bit.

[@TurrigenousOfficial]

In retrospect, I absolutely should have. At the time I was just thinking of it as how Allan used it and how to update it, instead of a sound demo.

[@madbugger69]

@@TurrigenousOfficial no problem master...next time next video with this setup...very eager👌👌