Oak Felder - Recording Demi Lovato's 'Sorry Not Sorry'

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@apowave
@apowave 4 жыл бұрын
It blows my mind that this is a free video
@krasimirdyakov
@krasimirdyakov 4 жыл бұрын
Nope, looks like Steven Slated paid that. ;)
@pfarelonelwamondo2171
@pfarelonelwamondo2171 4 жыл бұрын
Bruhh🙆🏾‍♂️🤯
@markjones2349
@markjones2349 4 жыл бұрын
It's a free video because its well known that time shifting everything to a grid, autotuning talent-less singers, and have every instrument played by a computer gives you modern pop shit that we have today. You weren't aware of this?
@slvshy666
@slvshy666 4 жыл бұрын
@@markjones2349 goofball, the obvious shit is obvious, what was priceless about this video was oak's thought process and methods. Like he said if you didn't learn anything, that's your fault.
@markjones2349
@markjones2349 4 жыл бұрын
@@slvshy666 The only thing you should learn from this video, is to not do whats in this video. Unless your turning out more pop garbage.
@samizzy
@samizzy 4 жыл бұрын
This is literally golden for any aspiring songwriters or producers massive thanks to oak for being so open about his process 🙏🙏
@inkisthename
@inkisthename 4 жыл бұрын
whats this guys instagram
@WeCreateMusicTV
@WeCreateMusicTV 4 жыл бұрын
@@inkisthename @oakestra
@LeveL9Records
@LeveL9Records 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's right
@AaronRaglandTV
@AaronRaglandTV 4 жыл бұрын
This guy knows what he's talking about.These are golden nuggets that I'm soaking all in.Why haven't I heard of this guy sooner?
@WeCreateMusicTV
@WeCreateMusicTV 4 жыл бұрын
@@AaronRaglandTV he is an incredible procuder. I believe him and Pop Wansel started together as a team.
@amkmu5ic
@amkmu5ic 4 жыл бұрын
I can tell this guy loves what he does, and he's damn good at it too.
@xoxo-pp7ru
@xoxo-pp7ru 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh he's made like 10 of these video explaining how he made sorry not sorry by demo levato 😳🤭👀🙄🙄🙄🤔🤷🤷 Clown ass producer
@DocKaosBeats
@DocKaosBeats 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree he really goes in detail with this one most big producers won't give you gems like this I don't care who hates on it
@arpitthakur45
@arpitthakur45 4 жыл бұрын
@@xoxo-pp7ru ok
@bradmodd7856
@bradmodd7856 4 жыл бұрын
never trust a producer sitting behind one of them old dinosaur consoles...this guy is ahead of the game
@xoxo-pp7ru
@xoxo-pp7ru 4 жыл бұрын
@@arpitthakur45 that's like the only songs hes produced 😳🤭🤫😹😹😹
@jakobkoprivnik6372
@jakobkoprivnik6372 4 жыл бұрын
thats very deep, not many famous producers do that kind of interviews on that level, thank you very much!
@pedrosilvaproductions
@pedrosilvaproductions 4 жыл бұрын
because they're insecure "oh I won't show my gear because they will just try to copy me" - Well my friend, if someone tries to do the same things you do then you're doing something right
@diegooliveirabenjamin
@diegooliveirabenjamin 4 жыл бұрын
That's not actually true, being an accomplished producer means at some level being that passionate about the craft, and talking about it is a turn on. Mixing and mastering engineers on the other hand are much more enigmatic about the process cus some secrets can't be shown. Same goes for songwriters
@eman0828
@eman0828 4 жыл бұрын
Too many people get this idea that you have to have some fame to be a Producer, Songwriter or Engineer. I will tell you one thing, fame is not even a requirement to being a Producer. Most Producers are rarely in the spotlight as they are behind the scenes. It takes a great song to gain respect and recognition but fame is not important. Quincy Jones once said he he would never do music for fame or money.
@Y42
@Y42 Жыл бұрын
he is such a gold mine and he‘s still so humble having worked on a lot of big stuff! love him ❤️
@CindyDeanable
@CindyDeanable 4 жыл бұрын
I’d call him an artist. What he does is amazing.
@KlingMusic
@KlingMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Cindy Dean yeah I disagree with what he said there
@V1CCZ3XX
@V1CCZ3XX 4 жыл бұрын
My guess is that what he meant was your #1 priority as a producer is to make an instrumental for the artist, not for yourself because you think it sounds cool. He's right about the service industry bit, that's really the job of a music producer. What he isn't right about is that this is no art form, which is so wrong because the production process employs a lot of artistic procedures (even the act of imagining a vibe and then implementing it on a track), many techniques being used by the artist as well.
@V1CCZ3XX
@V1CCZ3XX 4 жыл бұрын
@Elom Agbam yes that's what I am saying too, both make art, it's just one is expected to help the other more. Striking the right balance between production and artist performance is one of the, if not THE key aspect of making a good song
@canesfanjake15
@canesfanjake15 4 жыл бұрын
he is without a doubt an artist by the traditional definition. he draws the line between artist and producer and remains humble at the same time. you can tell he just wants to make the best song possible and it's inspiring to see his process
@therealsilverscrub772
@therealsilverscrub772 4 жыл бұрын
@@canesfanjake15 They way he remains humble kinda feels like he's trying to speak to a lot of hip-hop/trap producers who think they are the shit. Oak is an artist who knows he can provide value instead of being just a random beatmaker who can be replaced in a matter of minutes.
@philipsborg1735
@philipsborg1735 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly the most impressive in this entire video is Oak's system loading the C7 Grand instantly. What horsepower.
@HitMenProductionGroup
@HitMenProductionGroup 4 жыл бұрын
💯💯🤣
@damienlobb85
@damienlobb85 4 жыл бұрын
@Techno Assassin Yeah good luck with that. At this point their chips are about as powerful as the ARM chip in the low-power Surface X... The first computers will be the entry level MacBook. Last will be the Mac Pro. And yet in the PC space you have Intel and AMD fighting hard, pushing the boundaries of CPU technology. AMD's laptop silicon is already ahead of Intel's, and Intel is ahead of Apple's A series chips (by a large margin.) So let's be realistic. It will be a few years towards the end of the transition when anyone who wants to do SERIOUS work, will use an ARM-based Mac.
@damienlobb85
@damienlobb85 4 жыл бұрын
It really isn't that impressive. I have 3 nvme storage devices. 2x 1TB Samsung 970 drives (3500/3300MBps read/write) and a 2TB 970 (same speeds). It loads Komplete sample banks EXTREMELY fast. I also have an AMD 16 core Ryzen 3950x (4.3GHz all cores) with 32GB of 3600MHz DDR4 RAM. To get anything that touches it you would have to spend 1200USD on the CPU alone.
@damienlobb85
@damienlobb85 4 жыл бұрын
@@MementoMori-xx5qo Macbooks are anything but overpowered. Those wonderful i9s hit 100c then throttle. Compare that to the Ryzen 4900HS in the ASUS Zephyrus 14, a 35w part that gets hot (up to 90c) and outperforms practically ever current Intel laptop part even in thicker, better cooled laptops. I don't blame Apple for abandoning Intel. Regarding the storage argument, well yeah, 8TB, Apple wins that one. I prefer to use Thunderbolt external drives that way if anything dies, its all on external. Apples laptops are infamously hard to recover data from if the board dies.
@pabloa.hernandezmendoza1056
@pabloa.hernandezmendoza1056 4 жыл бұрын
"I tell you producers, you are not an artist!!". Five seconds later: "I'll show you how I write this song"
@JonahNelson7
@JonahNelson7 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. He was talking about producers having a vision for what a song ends up being and doing what you can to realize that vision, which is literally the process of art. Kinda weird that he said producers aren't artists
@pabloa.hernandezmendoza1056
@pabloa.hernandezmendoza1056 4 жыл бұрын
@@JonahNelson7 yes, kinda weird. I think he was thinking more of a celebrity, or pop star. Anyway, this guy is really talented and willing to share his craft which I really appreciate.
@samcooke343
@samcooke343 4 жыл бұрын
@@JonahNelson7 What he means is that producers (except EDM producers) don't release music for themselves - that would be art. Record producers serve other artists.
@PatoNani18
@PatoNani18 4 жыл бұрын
@@samcooke343 At the end of the day the work that producers make is definitely art especially when the "real" artist only have some average lyrics and an unclear idea of a melody at best. So it's up to the producers to make a hit out of almost nothing. So yeah the record producers are artists but also servants. It's the same with songwriters who write songs for other artist which is an art itself.
@papsonabouem6700
@papsonabouem6700 4 жыл бұрын
@@JonahNelson7 I think what he meant is that sometimes, some producers wants all the shine. That is all. but he is clearly an artist. we know it, and he does too :)
@runutsutube
@runutsutube 4 жыл бұрын
The Artist: "I want a soulful and unapologetic song." Not the Artist: "Sure, here's the chord progression, the beat, the arrangement, the gospel choir, I'll add some ear candy tomorrow don't worry. Oh and here is the title for the song. Now could you be so kind and sing this exact melody? Thx, what an amazing artist you are."
@rasmuskristensen9094
@rasmuskristensen9094 4 жыл бұрын
From this answer I can't tell you don't work in the industri. There's so much more to it. An Oscar winning actor do not write the script, build the scenery or set up the camera either. But you can still tell they are great at telling the story. It's the same in music. Even Beatles did not write all their stuff. People just somehow forget its an industri like everything else.
@runutsutube
@runutsutube 4 жыл бұрын
@@rasmuskristensen9094 You're right about the fact that it's an industry. But that's not my point. My point is that this producer IS indeed an artist, and should be recognised as one. Ask anybody in the street to name an oscar winning director. You'll get a hundred names. Then ask "Name a grammy winning producer", and listen to silence.
@BeerseekerAaki
@BeerseekerAaki 4 жыл бұрын
Laurent Toussaint CHURRRCH!!
@eman0828
@eman0828 4 жыл бұрын
Producers are most definitely *NOT* an Artist. They work behind the scenes that's rarely ever in the spot light. Recording Artists hires them for their services to produce a song. Like Quincy Jones, the Producer helps an Artist tell a story and help realize their vision, take a raw concept and turn it into reality as a finished product. They are like the director in the studio and the architect of making a record.
@Essnewq
@Essnewq 4 жыл бұрын
@@runutsutube tm88
@ROCKEFELLAPRODUCTIONS
@ROCKEFELLAPRODUCTIONS 4 жыл бұрын
36:10 - by far the most amazing part of the song that I never heard like that before in the original! Thank you Oak Felder!
@notloc177
@notloc177 4 жыл бұрын
oh absolutely
@thecomputerband3303
@thecomputerband3303 2 жыл бұрын
IDK man, I think the most amazing part is having 70+ tracks and being able to mix, organize, and remember to tend to all of them. 😳
@tayexoticc
@tayexoticc 2 ай бұрын
@@thecomputerband3303definitely amazing
@angeloboltinimusic
@angeloboltinimusic 4 жыл бұрын
6:30 camera can't handle the low end haha
@ankitkar2772
@ankitkar2772 4 жыл бұрын
for a moment i thought something is wrong with my eyes XD
@BrandedChronicles
@BrandedChronicles 4 жыл бұрын
@@ankitkar2772 me too! 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
@Pikachu-qr4yb
@Pikachu-qr4yb 4 жыл бұрын
I thought it was a digital filter they added to make it more dramatic but woah, it was accidental lol
@RTKBAND_
@RTKBAND_ 4 жыл бұрын
It's because of the 808s, when you play 808 in solo with loud volume you'll get that experience
@Pikachu-qr4yb
@Pikachu-qr4yb 4 жыл бұрын
@@RTKBAND_ O rly
@kazpermusic
@kazpermusic 4 жыл бұрын
The way he was navigating through the session of 70 + tracks had me like "I'm so slow at that". LOL.
@xoxo-pp7ru
@xoxo-pp7ru 4 жыл бұрын
I guess it helps to have a big screen
@pedrosilvaproductions
@pedrosilvaproductions 4 жыл бұрын
@@xoxo-pp7ru it helps to sit there for 8+ hours a day using it
@altarec123
@altarec123 4 жыл бұрын
No, it just take practice and preparation. Set your daw already split like you like it. Have an order to your workflow and everything will be simpler. My first tracks are always drums followed by bass, chords, lead, effect. Then I do all the vocals and the backvocals at the very end. I stick to it, so when I need to find my bass I always know where it will be.
@OscarRichardson
@OscarRichardson 4 жыл бұрын
Hotkeys, seriously. It barely takes any time to learn and you won't believe how much smoother the whole process feels.
@mart1062
@mart1062 4 жыл бұрын
He says he isn't an artist but just the way he moves through his tools is an art from in itself!!
@justanaverageperson544
@justanaverageperson544 4 жыл бұрын
He is definitely and artists but his point is that as a producer you need to view yourself as serving the artist not creating your own vision.
@AnymMusic
@AnymMusic 4 жыл бұрын
"producers aren't artists" *looks at EDM industry*
@eman0828
@eman0828 4 жыл бұрын
Those aren't really real Producer's. Anyone with a DAW could create and sequence instrumental backing tracks but that alone doesn't neccesary make you a Record Producer nor its a requirement. The primary role and function of a *Record Producer* is to oversee the entire production of a song created to its final mix stage. They are service to an Artist as Producer's are hired by the Artist to produce a song or album for them. They come from all different background as some are hands on while some are hands off. The ones that are hands on may play all the instrument parts, arrange, sequence and program the music themselfs or ones that are hands off may hire a team of musicians and ochestrate the whole song togther like Quincy Jones. Producer's have a vision for the song that helps realise an Artist's vision. They direct the Vocalist, Musicians etc performances behind the mixing board trying to get the song to its highest level as possible. They are like similar to Movie Director. A real producer sees every aspect of making record from the beginning stages all the way to the end as the finished product that had creative control of the song and direction.
@AnymMusic
@AnymMusic 4 жыл бұрын
@@eman0828 they are producers. they use a DAW, they make music, they know how to mix and master unless they have already outsourced that from the start, they work together with vocalists and instrumentalists. EDM producers are just as much of producers as this guy is. only difference is that he envisions the thoughts of another artist, EDM producers envision their own. please stop the stupid elitist/gatekeeping "you're not a real producer if" mentality
@eman0828
@eman0828 4 жыл бұрын
@@AnymMusic EDM guys are def not *Record Producers* they are electronic musicIans. They are more inline with Programmers or Composers that sequence instumental tracks in a DAW. A DAW is not a requirement to be a Producer. Just like Oak Felder just said, making beats, engineering or mixing or playing an instrument is not a requirement. I work with the same group of people that that Sean Diddy Combs Mario Winans worked with and Diddy is not the guy that program beats. He doesn't even use a DAW as he's more hands off like Rick Rubin. Puff is the guy behind the mixing console calling the shots trying to get good vocals out of some body. He works along side a Pro-Tools Recording Engineer in the control that directs the recording process. I do the same thing as well even though I program beats. A Producer has a vision for the song that helps realise an Artist's vision. Like Quincy Jones does that facilities and ochestrated a song togther. Producer's are basically directors in the studio. That's acutally me behind an SSL in my profile picture.
@apeksh3063
@apeksh3063 4 жыл бұрын
Musicians are musicians Record producer, producer, servant artist all is bullshit. Don't compare anything to everything. Make music , make yourself happy and then make others happy
@PhiladelphiaDon
@PhiladelphiaDon 4 жыл бұрын
@@eman0828 - Ain't that the TRUTH! :)
@ECollinsMusic
@ECollinsMusic 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like I just watched a Masterclass. Great job Sound on Sound
@studioruangsvara
@studioruangsvara 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve listen to his same story over and over, but this time is the best. include the project breakdown. Priceless. You still can hear the choir details even on the busy mix. He is amazing
@bdubzproduction5597
@bdubzproduction5597 4 жыл бұрын
My third watchthrough 😂
@nebstaism
@nebstaism 4 жыл бұрын
I can’t stop staring at that Mohawk
@viktorkarlsson5998
@viktorkarlsson5998 4 жыл бұрын
nebstaism frohawk
@yusrikarim5511
@yusrikarim5511 4 жыл бұрын
Shit my exact thought hahaha
@fansnunez9900
@fansnunez9900 4 жыл бұрын
He actually pulls it off really well, and that's hard shit haha.
@mitchplaysriffs
@mitchplaysriffs 4 жыл бұрын
That’s why it’s there. Trust me I’m a marketer.
@kerwingroot
@kerwingroot 4 жыл бұрын
I've had so many eye opening moments because of this video, imma not sleep for days
@Tphoenix34
@Tphoenix34 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You so much OAK i learned alot i also use logic pro x for my music love the studio set up and live demi too !
@Ramzo16
@Ramzo16 4 жыл бұрын
You'll make the next Michael Jackson hit I feel it
@Ramzo16
@Ramzo16 4 жыл бұрын
Dr.groot
@martinaschneider1649
@martinaschneider1649 4 жыл бұрын
His low ego, attention to detail, and fun spirit is a dream. I hope to work with him some day!
@roboverholt9959
@roboverholt9959 4 жыл бұрын
Hopefully the word "work" doesn't mean "take advantage of" which is what it looks like everyone is doing to this guy..
@ecorduna
@ecorduna 4 жыл бұрын
He is like Neil Degrasse Tyson of music production. The way he explains, laughs and etc.
@xoxo-pp7ru
@xoxo-pp7ru 4 жыл бұрын
@ damn bruh why you making it about race tho 🤔🧐 u a racist or sumthing ain't nobody mentioned his race or Neil's race, he only said how they both share certain characteristics and not their skin color
@zackgonzales6761
@zackgonzales6761 4 жыл бұрын
So good to see Mr T diversifying his revenue streams
@DiscoCitizens240
@DiscoCitizens240 4 жыл бұрын
🤣
@jasonrobertsutliff
@jasonrobertsutliff 4 жыл бұрын
Apparently, he sold the gold, too.
@mellifluousfable
@mellifluousfable 4 жыл бұрын
That's because he treated his mother right! 😏
@xwmax9886
@xwmax9886 4 жыл бұрын
You're DEFINITELY an artist.
@roboverholt9959
@roboverholt9959 4 жыл бұрын
We say "If you think you are, you're right! If you think you aren't, You're also right!"
@budgetguitarist
@budgetguitarist 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great, great video - a clinic on modern production. Really interesting to see his use of Logic Pro, which is the modern music maker's not-so-secret weapon. Pro Tools is supposedly the "industry standard," but a whole lotta music producers use Logic Pro because it's killer out of the box and it's $199.
@DavideGuerri
@DavideGuerri 4 жыл бұрын
logic pro is an overall winner for production, it's way faster in that context, i'd use it too if i had to produce
@eman0828
@eman0828 4 жыл бұрын
It really doesn't matter what DAW you use as they all essentially do the same thing and "sonically" there is no difference is sound quality. It's really a user preference. *Sorry Not Sorry* was actually still mixed in Pro-Tools by a *Mix Engineer* in a separate studio as Oak is Not a Mix Engineer, he's a Record Producer. His main job is to bring everything togther as the finished product. Some times its normal for a Producer to start the mix process if they have the skill level to have an idea for the song and then and pass the session on to a *Mix Engineer* to handle the rest from there. I'm a PC guy running Presonus Studio Pro. I program beats and track all vocals in studio one in my "own" studio Some times I may go to another studio and not touch a DAW period and oversee the recording process in the studio with the Artist working along side a Pro-Tools Engineer as I don't always where the Engineers hat all the time. Rodney Darkchild Jerkins has his own Pro-Tools Engineer when it comes to cutting vocals as he's not an Engineer. Rodney uses Logic to program beats with and works with his Pro-Tools Engineer directing behind the mixing board trying to get good vocals out an Artist during the Vocal Production process.
@jakecameron1360
@jakecameron1360 4 жыл бұрын
Eman 08 agree and disagree all daws are basically the same when it comes to mixing just comes down to preference but as far as production its really ableton, FL, and logic. Nothing else compares for production studio one is getting there workflows a lot like logic but not there yet.
@eman0828
@eman0828 4 жыл бұрын
@@jakecameron1360 Sounds like you are being a little bias as not everyone uses a Mac. There is no such thing as the best DAW. Its what ever works best for "You". That's acutally the other way around as the creators of studio one pretty much created the single window work flow back in the early 2000s that eveyone is trying to copy. I've acutally used studio one long before it was called Studio One. It was a project started by Kristal Audio back in 2004 by former Steinberg Developers. The oringal name of the DAW was called *Kristal Audio Engine* before it was sold Presonus that became Studio One. I was rocking Kristal Audio Engine back in 2007 but will still on Cakewalk Sonar at the time.
@eman0828
@eman0828 4 жыл бұрын
@@jakecameron1360FYI, *J.R Rotem* sequences everything in Pro-Tools, Teddy Reily used Studio One for Sequencing, Junkie XL uses Cubase for Sequencing. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what DAW you use to sequence beats or arrange music in as they all have midi sequencing capability. There's no formula. Most DAWs are compatible with each other with the adoption of *AAF.* I can load Pro-Tools sessions into Studio One. OMF was the older file format for DAW cross-platform.
@Dylanklinemusic
@Dylanklinemusic 4 жыл бұрын
This is the best behind the scenes production video I’ve ever seen. Thank you so much. I learned a ton!
@leorad
@leorad 4 жыл бұрын
Him and Demi are the best singer/producer duo in the game. Every track from TMYLM that they did together is just perfection!
@stickybandit2346
@stickybandit2346 4 жыл бұрын
GAME is Right. It is not artistic at all, it is a corporate game.
@gawk8790
@gawk8790 4 жыл бұрын
Well he came up with the name of the song while arguing with his wife 😂
@JRKEYS
@JRKEYS 4 жыл бұрын
808 was rocking so hard that the camera was rocking too lol
@lalox3003
@lalox3003 4 жыл бұрын
I felt like I was his mentee for an hour
@vibes7144
@vibes7144 4 жыл бұрын
Eduardo Alvarez for sure!
@SunnyLicious
@SunnyLicious 4 жыл бұрын
I've seen a walkthrough of this song in various versions...but this was a REALLY great video. Thanks for putting this together. SOS. Oak is the man!
@xoxo-pp7ru
@xoxo-pp7ru 4 жыл бұрын
By the looks of it this is the only song he's produced in his life. 🙄🙄🤷🤦🤔
@DocKaosBeats
@DocKaosBeats 4 жыл бұрын
@@xoxo-pp7ru Well at the beginning they said that he's worked with Rihanna and other artist as well but yeah he's told this story a lot but at least he dropped some gems in this one and gave us every detail on how he produced it
@kreten780
@kreten780 4 жыл бұрын
I like how at 6:33 the camera starts to shake due to low frequencies haha
@matiia
@matiia 4 жыл бұрын
36:26 - I wish there was a standalone song built around that!
@robpittman3132
@robpittman3132 4 жыл бұрын
I learned more in the last 45 minutes than I did in the last three months of watching other production videos. Bravo,
@thomasandon2539
@thomasandon2539 4 жыл бұрын
He now has become a music production icon and still growing bigger.
@santosuke
@santosuke 4 жыл бұрын
He's so likable and watchable that I wish this was a recurring feature, where he talks about his songs :D
@Dillygotitbumpin
@Dillygotitbumpin 4 жыл бұрын
This is so good, I'd love to see more of these
@EGP-Hub
@EGP-Hub 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not a pop music guy - I mostly compose orchestral/hybrid for TV, and rock band in my spare time.... but this man is so eloquent and informative that I'm watching the whole 43 mins and loving it. nice one
@sigridvanmoll
@sigridvanmoll 4 жыл бұрын
36:10 thank me later
@michaelduff2382
@michaelduff2382 4 жыл бұрын
I love this shit. Life is beautiful
@OfficialMrShade
@OfficialMrShade 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@idkhbu1845
@idkhbu1845 4 жыл бұрын
Ugh! I love Demi
@mlrd6622
@mlrd6622 4 жыл бұрын
"You are NOT an artist." Me: Well Spotify tells me differently.
@musikkloud5941
@musikkloud5941 4 жыл бұрын
You may not be an artist, but producers are artists! You got the producer part mastered, one day you be a great artis like the rest of us in the comment section!
@rommie4770
@rommie4770 4 жыл бұрын
Outstanding individual, top class producer inspiring a blessing to the industry.🇯🇲
@formerlydave
@formerlydave 4 жыл бұрын
When did the word “song” get replaced by “record”? It doesn’t make any sense to me. A record is a collection of songs
@eman0828
@eman0828 4 жыл бұрын
Well the terms Music, Record and Song are used interchangeably that means the same thing. But if you want to get technical a Song is the *Underlying Composition* under copyright law and the Recorded peformances is the *Sound Recording* copyright. You hear the terms *Music Industry* and *Record Industry* used interchangeably all the time just the same as *Music Producer* and *Record Producer* that means the same thing. Oak Felder and I infact still use the older term Record Producer. A Music Producer produces the record or a Record Producer produces the Music or the entire song.
@KaraokeNig
@KaraokeNig 4 жыл бұрын
@@eman0828 Knowledge.
@liam2246
@liam2246 3 жыл бұрын
29:20 he's so proud of himself 🤣🤣🤣
@marlindemby8120
@marlindemby8120 4 жыл бұрын
For those that are in deference with the statement "Producers are not Artist" It could be rephrased for better understanding "The Producer is not the Artist" We have to consider the context of the statement he made, in relationship to the producers role when working in the studio with an artist. Producers in general should not attempt to sit in the artist chair because there is only space for one energy or (body) in that chair. The producer has a totally different role and energy to keep in mind. He is not saying producer's can't be artist, he is saying when the artist is in the studio the producer's role becomes that of a coach that is responsible for getting the best out of the artist's performance while overseeing the quality of the final product. This guy is Awesome and his production intellect is through the roof!
@platosev
@platosev 4 жыл бұрын
3:37 he's superfast in DAW O_o
@ImagineRecordings
@ImagineRecordings 4 жыл бұрын
2:22 --- "Producers out there... you are not an artist." *_M_MartinSwedeHitz_** has entered the Chat* Jokes aside, I get Oak's point in saying this, and agree that Producers would do well to know when to have this _mindset_ and when not to, depending on how well-defined an artist's vision is, how prepared they are when they enter the production phase, how far along their songs/ideas are developed, and so forth. This mindset harkens back a bit to the old school, major studio, Producer days when a lot of Artists coming into the studio could Produce in their own right if needed, were often proficient on one or multiple instruments, had basic or even advanced knowledge of recording equipment and techniques, were excellent songwriters/topline writers by themselves, and so forth. That being said, these days, in many modern pop situations, you could argue that the Producers are even more so the "artist" than the well-known name and face on a track. Quite a few "Artists" in the pop realm know little-to-nothing about recording, their "songwriting" is rough notes scrawled on paper or in their iPhone, they're coming in with maybe a couple phrases of melody (if any at all) that may or may not make it into the final song, and don't have much of a "vision" for their record other than maybe a loose theme based on what they are going through in life at the time. Here, we/I refer to this as "Tumblr Artistry." There are loads of authentic feelings wanting to be expressed, some rudimentary writings, maybe a loose idea of a sound they want ("I want this record to sound like {insert current influence}."), and then they hand all of this to their Producer(s) and Songwriter(s) and effectively say, "help me make something out of this." The Producers and Songwriters then become the primary drivers of the creative engine, of the melodic choices and production ideas, and are doing most of the sonic heavy lifting, albeit with check-ins and input from the "Artist" along the way, of course. The Artist is more of a passenger in the front seat in this scenario. There are a lot of radio pop "Artists" that fit into this description. They end up with a song that may express perfectly what they were wanting to, and that they are ultimately very happy with, but without the Producer(s) and Songwriter(s)/Co-writer(s), the song wouldn't have ever happened. That's a different situation compared to when an Artist is coming in with a clear vision (for the most part) of what they want to do, completed songs, or well developed partial songs (with maybe a verse or solid hook written already), with maybe some demos they made at their house or on the tour bus on their laptop, phone, in Garageband, in Logic, Ableton, etc. They are coming in with work, are ready to go, and have a vision, and this is the key point... in this scenario the _Artist_ not the Producer is driving the creative engine and the Producer and Co-Writers are there to offer support, perspectives from different ears, ideas, and help to make the Artist's vision the best and most fleshed out that it can be. It's in _this_ scenario, that I see Oak's point of saying to Producers: "you are not [the] Artist." The Artist in this scenario doesn't necessarily _need_ a Producer, but they know their songs will probably be better off by working with one. Then there's the Artist/Producer combo. Prince, George Michael (later albums), OneRepublic, Charlie Puth, ISLAND, Zedd, etc. But that's a completely different category than what Oak is talking about here. lol tl;dr - I get Oak's point, and it's certainly applicable as a rule of thumb, but there are plenty of situations where it doesn't apply, as well.
@andesneko
@andesneko 4 жыл бұрын
I agree on the no template thing sooo much. Anyway, great insight. I respect this guy more than I did before.
@VonReillyXD
@VonReillyXD 4 жыл бұрын
This dude is truly an amazing producer! This was a very educational experience for me, I've learned something new and will implement it into my production.
@bulkindude69
@bulkindude69 4 жыл бұрын
A true producer who is true to the craft. KZbin needs more videos about pop production like this. Fantastic.
@Avatar7x7
@Avatar7x7 4 жыл бұрын
When Oak isolated the piano at the 4:05 mark that was almost a dead ringer for Brenda Russell's "A Little Bit of Love" .. Pretty sure he was inspired by that track ! LOL 😜
@1014JB
@1014JB 4 жыл бұрын
Considering he's one of my fav producers and Demi is one of my fav artists I was so excited to get into this as an aspiring songwriter/producer. Great video SOS, you've got a new sub
@robbievalentine8239
@robbievalentine8239 4 жыл бұрын
I'm..a rock guy and I learned so much from this video. Oak thanks sharing!! Fantastic content.
@robbievalentine8239
@robbievalentine8239 4 жыл бұрын
Www.facebook.com/vavavoomrock
@sandramuncelli7976
@sandramuncelli7976 2 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to let you know that many of Demi’s songs seem like they are mixed by someone who is very old and losing their hearing. There is HUGE amounts of high frequency junk, distortion and just WAY over the top hot mixing of the high octaves. Whoever is doing stuff like Melon Cake, The way you don’t look at me, Commander in chief, and a bunch of others NEEDS TO GET THEIR HEARING CHECKED AND TO STOP MIXING SONGS UNTIL OR IF THEY GET THEIR HEARING FIXED. They are ruining good performances that I am sure sound okay to them!
@guttmang
@guttmang 4 жыл бұрын
can there be just a track with 18:51 in loops? nothing more! amazing!
@marisoltbh
@marisoltbh 4 жыл бұрын
this is why "sorry not sorry" was picked and fought for to be the lead single. Now that she parted with her old team, I can't wait to see what they come up with🔥
@pokey4200
@pokey4200 4 жыл бұрын
36:00... thats literally one of my favorite parts of the song... Its what i call Demi ear candy
@danielarnaiz7949
@danielarnaiz7949 4 жыл бұрын
You can tell this guy absolutely loves what he does and I love every second of it
@DJLadyDior
@DJLadyDior 4 жыл бұрын
This was great to watch. Producers of any genre will appreciate this & pick up the gems that were dropped. I aspire to be on his level not only of production, but of knowledge. 🙌🏼
@brunodane2610
@brunodane2610 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video and breakdown! But wtf is the Point of saying producers are no Artists. Producers are not the Face of the product thats getting sold, but by creating music a Producer forms Art and that makes him an Artist.
@soundtreks
@soundtreks 4 жыл бұрын
I’m largely a orchestral film composer but I have massive respect for Oak. The guy knows his shit up and down. Great video!
@blabla6947
@blabla6947 4 жыл бұрын
Excuse me? Producers aren't artists? You keep telling yourself that. There are many different aspects to being a producer. Creating an instrumental isn't art? Forming a song isn't art? Taking something that was bland and turning it into a masterpiece isn't art? You can sit here all day and say that producers aren't artists and you are 100% WRONG! By the way your mohawk looks dumb and I bet you'll say it's art and your expressing yourself LOL GTFO...
@SPE3DYEMO
@SPE3DYEMO 4 жыл бұрын
Wait so the "artist" demi, comes in and says make it soulful, and doesnt even write the lyrics? And gets all the credit? Yeah, shes the artist in this.. sure. Amazing video otherwise.
@elmiratchagop3642
@elmiratchagop3642 4 жыл бұрын
Demi co wrote the song with the writer. She has a songwriting credit on the track so she definitely wrote on the track.
@SPE3DYEMO
@SPE3DYEMO 4 жыл бұрын
@@elmiratchagop3642 producers need more credit.
@sprb4725
@sprb4725 4 жыл бұрын
Evan Okeefe I agree they deserve more credit, but this guy is on the writing credits and production credits, so it’s not really the fault of people on the music industry as much as people not being interested. Just like most people know more actors than directors.
@subliminalist7539
@subliminalist7539 4 жыл бұрын
They do get credit...both by getting paid and by having their credentials stamped in the song. Producers at this level know exactly what they're getting into. Demi Lovato is the name, the brand to market the product by. Oak is the engineer behind it and everyone in the industry knows this. He is not someone who's spent the time and resources building a brand around himself, he's spent his time and resources on studying his craft. Can't do everything, especially at that level. Also, who's to say he actually wants to be a celebrity artist and the problems that come with that?
@ddlovatoanangelVideo
@ddlovatoanangelVideo 4 жыл бұрын
This song is still my jam after 2 and a half years what a QUEEN!!!
@nebstaism
@nebstaism 4 жыл бұрын
Really good vid though what a legend for sharing game like that
@biologybelievers5831
@biologybelievers5831 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know anything about music producing.. But cuz of you Im inspired and oak, I really want to produce a music, plZz help me how to reach where u are :)
@88PLR
@88PLR 4 жыл бұрын
Hope producers out there learned something new today
@lolalor3410
@lolalor3410 4 жыл бұрын
Lovatics think of demi everytime he says "meticulous" cuz iykyk
@neronoid
@neronoid 4 жыл бұрын
They went gaga over a basic ass 808 progression? Ok...
@prodjc_2102
@prodjc_2102 4 жыл бұрын
I 100% think producers are am artist. we work hard on our tracks sometimes and for someone to say something like that is an Insult
@reinoldg
@reinoldg 4 жыл бұрын
This guy is a genius! The last tip about reverb is amazing 🔥
@cfomusic73
@cfomusic73 4 жыл бұрын
Wow the comment about Jobs dad is something I also read and utilize in my everyday life! I say it all the time..... It's not just what you see and hear that matters...... It's everything...... Even what you don't see or hear matter even more sometimes. Oak Felder is a genius! So much respect for the guy.
@cuddlebear7132
@cuddlebear7132 4 жыл бұрын
"There's a time and place for everything but not now"-some guy named after a tree I think...
@Alex-dg2mb
@Alex-dg2mb 4 жыл бұрын
Vocals: “wait a minute”. SOS: cuts to advertisement. I see you.
@heythere6983
@heythere6983 4 жыл бұрын
I have been debating on the slate mics, interesting iv been leaning towards not gettin them. He said producers arent artists, yet he came up with 95 percent of the song, along with her vocal melodies and harmonies, she had another writer, she probably added less than 5 percent tbh. Im not a fan of pop singers because of this, they are more actors than artists, little comes from them, you could pull almost any random singer off the streets and have the same results. This guy is the artist. Funny he likes sibilant mics, most people pay for extremely expensive mics so that they arent sibilant, that slate mic is very sibilant and what most people call "harsh", I personally also like a mic to not be so mellow, it cuts through better.
@wadewilliams1892
@wadewilliams1892 4 жыл бұрын
Hey There Expensive mics are like big dicks - the size or cost are irrelevant - it’s what you do with it - an sm57 can sound great depending on pre amp compressor etc and singer 🤓
@intheblink
@intheblink 4 жыл бұрын
Wade Williams I wish I’d been born with a Sony C800g instead.
@heythere6983
@heythere6983 4 жыл бұрын
@@wadewilliams1892 yea its true, thing is you watch mic shootouts online. and what you always hear "ohhh neumann, so full of body and warm bla bla" and then other mics "oh no, too harsh, soo sibilant, ouchie hurts my ears" Yet they probly hear this song and think "wow that sounds soo good" People just parrot what they think they should say. I mean De essers exist and u can lower frequencies but people act like thats impossible. It seems like there wasnt much de essing on this track at all and its very noticable, but I personally find it fine. A track like "chandelier" from Sia is also kinda sibilant, but to me I feel thats what makes it sound edgy and raw.
@heythere6983
@heythere6983 4 жыл бұрын
@@intheblink the slate mics emulate that mic aswell
@wadewilliams1892
@wadewilliams1892 4 жыл бұрын
Hey There completely agree, I just love Sia’s and her engineers work - such great vocals.. keep in touch
@jessepolowin2339
@jessepolowin2339 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine if every artist / producer in the industry cared this much about making a quality product
@sassugirl1151
@sassugirl1151 4 жыл бұрын
I know nothing about this process or the lingo but I’m amazed. My eyes would hurt trying to navigate the program.
@2020vishon
@2020vishon 4 жыл бұрын
“You lost that loving feeling” went over most heads fr🔥
@rikyriky966
@rikyriky966 4 жыл бұрын
YOU ARE AN ARTIST OAK FELDER! ACCEPT IT :D
@sohialarayne
@sohialarayne 4 жыл бұрын
I love how when he turned the 808s up the camera started shaking haha love this guy
@thenightrage7149
@thenightrage7149 4 жыл бұрын
The camera man didn't shake it was those big ass speaker
@ItsDHunt
@ItsDHunt 4 жыл бұрын
Hossein Rasuli did you read her comment right?
@dontcoachme62
@dontcoachme62 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite background part too 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@vascosalati8879
@vascosalati8879 4 жыл бұрын
No one: Amateur producer using fl studio:GaRaGeBaNd socks!!1!1
@Itsanangell
@Itsanangell 4 жыл бұрын
I seen him talk about this several times two years ago just like me he seems tired of this subject lmao but interesting process nonetheless
@olvinfuentes7514
@olvinfuentes7514 4 жыл бұрын
Wow I'm totally going to produce the next hit record
@DJJusJay
@DJJusJay 4 жыл бұрын
Heck yes!
@miltmanmusic_BCS
@miltmanmusic_BCS 4 жыл бұрын
I stop using the slate plugins in my productions and now I think I may need to restart, very nice song/production breakdown video.
@eman0828
@eman0828 4 жыл бұрын
Well Digital Slate plugins doesn't just magically make your music sound great, its the skill level that you have. It doesn't even matter what peice of software you use. You just need a great ear, proper room acoustic treatment and some mixing skills to get a great mix.
@akvmamusic
@akvmamusic 4 жыл бұрын
Saying producers aren't artists is ridiculous. Yes, you are offering a service to the artist but producers for the most part actually write and engineer the song. It takes artistry at the end of the day.
@eddysel10
@eddysel10 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Oak is probably one of the happiest persons on the earth. Being able to produce these kind of music / song for these type of artist, is a real blessings!!! It's great to see Oak use plugins, and they are the same plugins I have (and more) and the Raven, which I also have. Please make more tutorials Oak. Not necessary about mixing but more on producing!!
@eman0828
@eman0828 4 жыл бұрын
He did break down the entire production of the entire song. Oak is primary a Record Producer as he's clearly not a Mixing Engineer as the song was acutally mixed by *Manny Marroquin* in a separate Studio. Oak just knows some mixing enough to get it sound great before he passed the song off to a Mixing Engineer to finish the rest.
@Babydudetatts
@Babydudetatts 4 жыл бұрын
I love how much he still feels the song when hes playing parts out. That smile on his face is so genuine. What a boss! loved this vid!
@audioplugg5310
@audioplugg5310 4 жыл бұрын
6:32 Thought my eyes were messing up for a min, because I was about to make a doctor call.
@rjfelias7675
@rjfelias7675 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sir Oak Felder :)
@michaelbayron
@michaelbayron 4 жыл бұрын
So many good gold nuggets in this video. What a dang good producer Oak is man! He is so good in what he does and is clearly enjoying doing it. Kudos to the team for putting this all together!
@666ACDCROCKNROLL666
@666ACDCROCKNROLL666 4 жыл бұрын
This video has brought back so much excitement for creating and recording music. Oak is so knowledgeable of the technical side and aware of the song, this is a goldmine for us home producers/engineers wanting to be part of the songwriting/creative process.
@hyperhektor7733
@hyperhektor7733 4 жыл бұрын
14:30 hahah "my wife is sitting there and watching my words right now" lol
@hyperhektor7733
@hyperhektor7733 4 жыл бұрын
btw i really hate it when guys let their wifes hold on their balls to dominate them.
@nickwhereyouat
@nickwhereyouat 4 жыл бұрын
this is awesome. I’m a producer, and the vibe he shows is very respectful. And I love how he shows how he did everything and didn’t rlly hide much. Good job!
@mort3official404
@mort3official404 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao I'm just imagining what his hair feels like the whole time
@ebolantigua3201
@ebolantigua3201 4 жыл бұрын
Im approaching production different because of Oak Felder. - Should have been this easy years ago.
@gobillygook
@gobillygook 4 жыл бұрын
I think I can speak for many of us in saying: More of these, if possible, Please!!!
@musicaARMA
@musicaARMA 4 жыл бұрын
if you think i'm watching the entire 43-minute video, you're damn right I am
@stefangolubovic19999
@stefangolubovic19999 4 жыл бұрын
From this moment he is a wizard for me, I hope that I am gonna be able to master music production like he has and to let the rest of the world hear my songs and have a succes with big artists like he has!!!!!
@aashishanthony
@aashishanthony 4 жыл бұрын
this is Gold 😭😭😭😭😭😭 How is this a free video!? Thank you for this!!! Oak is basically the production God.
@samuelkebede9536
@samuelkebede9536 4 жыл бұрын
I was sitting here the whole time wondering how does he put on headphones without messing up his hair
@xoxo-pp7ru
@xoxo-pp7ru 4 жыл бұрын
He doesn't 😳
@vincentpaula3184
@vincentpaula3184 4 жыл бұрын
THIS WAS AMAZING. Thank you for sharing the behind the scenes. The Mohawk made me click the video lol but this guy is gifted
@facksvillain2296
@facksvillain2296 4 жыл бұрын
This guy is awesome, would love to sit in a session with him, and be a sponge.
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