Sounds of Silence Roll4It #21 - BLOOD BOND - Vampire the Masquerade 5th Edition

[@sophiskiai9380]

Of all the scenes in this campaign, I found Bella's psychological manipulation of Dakota the most horrifying one since Ava and Zach's punishment tortures near the start.

[@alecchristiaen4856]

At face value, it's pretty heartwarming. When you pause to think about it, it' straight up bone-chilling

[@ryangray8392]

@@alecchristiaen4856 this is what I've been looking for someone to say. All the chat were going on about how caring and passionate Bella. Like she talks about trust then basically makes it that Dakota will do whatever she says even things that will conflict with who she is. Making her feed on the woman last episode was just the first thing.

[@HenriqueErzinger]

It's amazing that everyone was shocked at the end of 2 episodes ago in the scene about Olli with the cake, and after it all went down he got the softer punishment all things considered (apart form Ava, maybe).

[@winterweasel425]

Weirdly, i think she does care about dakota. But... in a way a farmer cares about a dairy cow. Like "Oh yeah, this thing is cute and useful.".

[@manticore6963]

His Name is Zach He has Paranoia Attack But most importantly - he's a Snack.

[@oakson3045]

Fucking beautiful lol

[@joshuacreel3000]

When Saito gets wind of Dakota being blood bonded with his speciality in Vitae this is going to be interesting. I've always wanted to run a vampire campaign but Mathas being so good at it just intimidates me more lol. Also Dot is an amazing role player. Miss Magitek shined in this one too! Ya'll are awesome.

[@joshuacreel3000]

I cant be the only one that thinks olly teaching Ava some boxing and her getting a point or two in celerity would be super bad ass.

[@gothknight6]

Regarding leading a game, don't think that way. We all start being a DM/GM/storyteller at some point and you get better and better as you go. I've just started a Vampire game and my group had a great time. I say, go for it mate.

[@Drewcatmorris]

Go for it. It has been years since I ran a Vamp campaign. Streams like this one and LA By Night lit a fire under me. The system is (relatively) easy to teach and use.

[@HenriqueErzinger]

@@joshuacreel3000 It wouldn't really help much offensively with all her physical stats at 1. I think she's right to specialise in her mental disciplines instead. Should invest in firearms, tho.

[@stevehalliday4467]

Best roll4it content by far, hooked right through the nose. Mathas is an awesome GM storyweaver.

[@Drewcatmorris]

Dakota - I love you so. Olly - You can be the Dad your Father never was. Ava - Your tragic flaws are what make you irresistible. Zack - My brother by another mother.

[@Chalvrek]

Starts 0:53 Game Starts 8:02 Break ends 2:13:03

[@gregcarter356]

Zach #1 nosferatu wing man . I'm waiting for Ollie to pull a deadpool and pull off his mask only to have Hugh Jackman's face from a magazine stapled on .

[@user-jv7gr1jb3r]

WHAM!

[@zachbitner9391]

Wham! INDEED I could see ollie doing that on like a 1 shot Halloween's episode

[@HenriqueErzinger]

#1 wingman? He was basically trying to magically roof his sister dude, creep as fuck... I like Ollie and all, but it wont gonna happen, with her being a toreador, and brainwashing her to force her feelings against her will is not okay at all.

[@thedapperlad7148]

Blood bonds, easily one of the most horrifying VTM things

[@LittleRedDot]

Yeah, if the last two episodes have shown us nothing else, it's that.

[@MarkATorres1989]

I admit, I honestly forget just how dreadful that fact is and how much it changes the drinker in their core and mind.

[@thedapperlad7148]

@@MarkATorres1989 It's like worse mind control, because unlike dominate or Mind or whatever other mental influence you can use, you honestly believe in what you are doing, you love following those orders.

[@ryan1000011]

don't last to long for vampires usually a month or 3 is nothing to vamps

[@irontemplar6222]

Depends how it's used, but yeah in this case this is one of the more horrifying things.

[@jungleurbanwarrior]

This is the most creepy role play I’ve seen. It’s the feeling of talking to someone you know then they do something alien. Dakota talking around Bella is scary

[@rossnorris2351]

God Dakota is beautiful when she's cleaned up.

[@ConquerorsDiaries]

My g she looks exactly the same

[@robertgronewold3326]

Oh god, EE at 1:40:56. I thought a cat was being sick in my room at first before realizing that he was collapsing. lol

[@_Jack-]

Been waiting for this all week and missed last night. Excited is an understatement!

[@TheCode_Null]

its a complete mess

[@Zerakis]

With the way this episode went you just know that the book Ollie took to Ava was fifty shades of grey.

[@luizmendonca00]

For future reference, Zach got it wrong when wiping Dakota's memory clean. It's not "five or more sucesses" that create a flawless new memory, it's a critical win, which is two tens at least.

[@HenriqueErzinger]

"Dakota will be lucky to see the sun rise" amazing play with the words for a vampire

[@nathane6368]

I'm very curious to see if the coterie holes up in a particular cabin, abandoned in those woods...

[@jessih.6593]

Even they would be screwed facing the Fae, but who knows I'd love to see Vampires handle the Hedge.

[@dionysianhoney99]

I'm liking the way Dakota arranged her dreads. Kind of giving me 1960s blowout pricila presley vibes. She kinda looks like she'd be equally at home at a Korn concert in the early 2000s and having a milkshake at the local Diner listening to Buddy Holly on the jukebox. If little Red Dot turns up next session in a 60's hoopskirt and pink blouse, I'll lose my fashion shit.

[@LittleRedDot]

It's so funny. A lot of people have mentioned the dreads and all I did was push them back out of my face with a headband. My thought being that Bella would have asked her to "show her face more", or push her hair back.

[@dionysianhoney99]

@@LittleRedDot well it worked 😂

[@signor_zuzzu]

Dakota puts on some eyeliner and everyone looses their shit

[@Revan_7even]

Someone please make a gif of all of EE/Zach's reactions this episode, priceless.

[@gusvisser9043]

I like "Street Dekota" so much more than "Pretty Pretty Princess Dekota".

[@IfIWereTheDevil]

Well done Little Red on your makeup, I don't know what you did, but you actually managed to make dreadlocks rock. (Usually they really don't on other people). We are going to have to come up with a new way of measuring cuteness, I'VE GOT IT! "THE RED ZONE!" lol

[@LittleRedDot]

LMAO! I love that. "Welcome to the Red Zone" -- insert female computer generated voice

[@Mr._Matt]

Mathas, I just finished watching Just Around the Corner like 2 weeks ago, so the ending of this episode made my nipples so hard they could cut glass. Nice full circle, man! :D

[@sekishashura]

I hate that I find Dakota’s and Bella’s interactions adorable. Especially with all the manipulation being done by Bella. Still tho, gdi Dakota ur adorable.

[@slokin82]

As a wisconsinte, hearing "Small town of madison" made me laugh pretty hard

[@LilFlame2001]

I can only assume there's some small suburb north of Chicago named Madison. Mathas has said it's part of Bella's domain and there's no way she'd have a domain all the way up to Madison. Milwaukee would get in the way and probably have someone in charge there. I could then see that person possibly having their domain extend as far as Madison but still seems unlikely.

[@jessih.6593]

"Just around the corner" and "sounds of silence" crossover? HELL YEA! Have been waiting for this since the episode they mentioned Madison here the first time ^^

[@ryangray8392]

The 180 with Dakota is chilling. It's like meeting your close friend but there's something behind their eyes that's just off. Edit: Dakota speaking of protecting Zach was hard to hear. You know if it comes to it she'll throw them all in the fire to please Bella. She's been so altered she believes everything she says.

[@irishmarshmallow]

Got my timing mixed up yesterday and jumped on at the last 10 minutes with Maggie encouraging oli and ava to kiss

[@jonathandawson2962]

Another great ep .... well played all :)

[@CWCCryss]

Why did Ava's eyes change color? I didn't quite get that myself.

[@LittleRedDot]

She has dropped from Humanity 6 to Humanity 5. Changing of the eye color is one of the things that can happen when your humanity drops too low.

[@CWCCryss]

@@LittleRedDot Oooh, thank you. I forgot that she took a humanity hit last episode! Great work on cast!

[@hugoljadas5535]

Zach is so fucking done with Avas shit right now and it's fucking amazing.

[@AchillesTT]

Break ends: 2:13:04

[@raidencrimson4002]

I'm not sure about how Dakota is now with the blood-bonding. I don't think she's Dakota anymore. Blood-bonding makes those about as close to a Slave as possible. Edit: more like a puppet or shadow of who they used to b

[@caad5258]

Rudy confirmed closet lasombra 26:34

[@caad5258]

@@admiralgaius9796 and he could use obtenebration to approximate obfuscation by manipulating shadows. He would just lack animalism. Also explains why he had someone else sire Oliver.

[@caad5258]

@@mekaelbayati8040 Its just that ollies tragic backstory comes across as though he was being sired by a lasombra. The lasombra are social darwinists, and so will only embrace "strong" kine. This means they'll spend a one to five years pouring misery and pain upon their potential childe. The kine will have no idea why their life is turning to shit, but if they survive the emotional torture, they are offered the embrace.

[@123CDNmrD]

Lmao Oli, big time player and I agree this has to be the horniest episode ever lol.

[@DarlockAhe]

And that's how vampires cope with the loss of the loved ones. xD

[@htheconqueror6937]

I feel so bad for Zach everything goes wrong for him.

[@LittleRedDot]

I'm pretty sure he's the most unlucky person.

[@1Lanavis1]

Bella really honing in on Dakota's mommy issues

[@fallenknight4383]

7:40 ish is where it starts

[@oakson3045]

Amazing episode guys!

[@nathant1428]

Anyone know what Mathas was talking about the end of the episode being a reference to?

[@manticore6963]

The World of Darkness-Campaign "Around the Corner" that came right before "Sounds of Silence". I guess it was some kind of reference to a Scene in that Campaign but I never watched the final Episodes of that (might do at at some point), so I don't really know, what Mathas meant.

[@nathant1428]

@@manticore6963 ah right, i never watched that series, i might have to catch up on it. I didnt know it was a world of darkness one.

[@jessih.6593]

@@nathant1428 You should it's extremely well done, Mathas nailed the last episode that's mentioned here (and the whole campaign), yet it isn't helpful to just watch the last one. Watch the whole campaign or else the end makes no sense =)

[@mikbdee2186]

42:48 watch EE and Miss Magitech.

[@whoknows8264]

the horniness at the end is so strange. I guess they're coping with the traumatic events in their own way. LoL

[@dvidwayne1192]

"The dog? You are named after the dog? Hahahahahaha!" Anybody: ...?

[@ryan1000011]

anyone who doesn't get the reference is dead to me :P

[@darrenbatty7090]

We named the dog Indiana :)

[@Celestraehable]

Sorry for being the one that comments on a 4 year old show, but my immediate thought on opening this episode was, "WTH, Dakota is with the Cam for three weeks and they've already given her a total make-over???" All joking aside, I do like the look. =) I noticed minor changes last episode, but no hood Dakota caught me by surprise.

[@nightsyko]

so they pulled off a Jason Todd /Joker with Butcher and Ruddy ?

[@morbrocco2917]

im wondering if anyone may know or that, but will 5th edition rules n that work with some older stories like ashes to ashes from i dont know which edition? just wondering

[@gothknight6]

Little Red looks very Cyndi Lauper circa 1980 but with dreads. Very pretty.

[@Nosimplehiway]

I am, obviously, way behind on watching these, but they are awesome. I enjoy them so much I have been binge watching. The only small problem are the sound levels. I watch on a laptop with external speakers and have tried playing with the sound levels to get it right. I just can't seem to get it properly equalized, though. The problem is Bub's sound. All the other players have a fairly normal, conversational timbre. Bub, however, is using such a deep, gravelly (and often slurred) voice it's difficult to understand him. The mask he is speaking through and the fuzziness of his mic probably don't help, as they require his volume to be turned up high just to be understood. I've tried dropping the bass, raising the treble. I've tried headphones and different speakers. I've used a sound filter for clarity. I've asked others to listen to it, to make sure it's not just my hearing. I've suggested this series to several friends and all of them said the same thing: the sound goes back and forth between sotto voce and shaking the windows depending on who is speaking. I get it's a part of the characterization, but it makes it difficult to fully enjoy the series. Is there any chance of Bub using a more natural timbre, or fixing the sound uptake on his end? Weirdly, I don't run into this issue with Bub's other work on other channels. He does such a great job with the character of Ollie, but I'm afraid I'm missing big chunks of the performance because of sound clarity issues.

[@profmembrane8501]

Just wanna ask. Little Red Dot. Where did ya get Dakota's stylish coat?! Me wantz!

[@LittleRedDot]

That’s actually my personal coat. My absolute favorite. I rescued it from a rack at an Army Navy Surplus.

[@profmembrane8501]

I am so jealous!! Did it come with the hood or did you sew the hood on? At my army surplus store, I got one jacket there that now looks like something a hard core Anarch would wear. ^-^ even added pointed studs

[@profmembrane8501]

Alsooooo. Just wanna say. I love Dakota's character. ^-^ well...honestly the whole cast. Ava's playful recklessness, yet screeching halt to quick afterlife maturity, Ollie's stoic, yet almost fragile mask (no pun intended...hehe masquerade joke), Zach's scholar like nature causing a slight paranoia for knowing too much, Camille's power through words, and Saito's smug, cocky mindset that even then can be seen through by some, when Dakota gave that speech to Saito, for example. ^-^ it's amazing to say the least. I usually listen to you lot while I write, draw, game, or just drive. Also, Mathas, you probably can't hear but I am applauding the story so hard my future children will have wanker's cramp

[@LittleRedDot]

@@profmembrane8501 It came with the hood though I'm considering making a new one for Dakota with fur. :D

[@profmembrane8501]

I can see Dakota with one of those furred hoods. You know what I mean? Like a parka but not heavy

[@hakimdaaloul9886]

"I still didn't finish my burito"😂😂😂😂😂

[@shinshilko]

1) Camarilla tortured Ava 2) Camarilla tortured Avas brother 3) Camarilla was looking for any excuse to kill off Avas brother for being a Caitiff 4) Camarilla killed Avas mother infront of her 5) Camarilla tortured Avas brother again Ava - "I still want to be a part of the Camarilla" The character is an idiot!

[@anonymoustopsecret5995]

When a player is determined to continue down a specific path (Camarilla, Anarch) no storytelling can stop them.

[@shinshilko]

@@anonymoustopsecret5995 But it still makes the character look like an idiot.

[@frankparker1191]

Oillie should change his Butcher moniker to "Bone Daddy".

[@natcoso9955]

Question: what was the soundtrack playing during the break?

[@IfIWereTheDevil]

Zack needs to help Dakota read and understand the "Book of the Grave", loyalty problem solved, but the whole group is gonna have to go Anarch with taking that path, while it will not solve their problems, it will at least give them breathing room, so that they can figure out how to solve their problems, without finale death hanging on to the edge of every decision they make.

[@Gruuno]

Joining the anarchs at this point would be the thing that causes them final death lol. They've already joined Camarilla openly. If they now start switching sides it's going to be bad. They were given a second chance and taught not to fuck things up like that again. I think joining the anarchs now would be the dumbest decision to do.

[@LittleRedDot]

@@mekaelbayati8040 The real question is... would the Anarch's accept us? As long as Dakota has ANYTHING to do with Bella they will never let her join. If the rest of the coterie turned to them it would pretty much assure a divide between our coterie, and possibly upset the Prince enough for final death.

[@LittleRedDot]

@@Gruuno I totally agree with you.

[@IfIWereTheDevil]

Well I think Olly would have to hold Dakota down, or stake her as Zack reads the book to her, then change sect. Sure the coterie has made some mistakes, but given the cruel and unusual punishment the Camarilla likes to hand out, I wouldn't blame them for wanting to get out from under the Camarilla. If they were to go Sabbat on the other hand, then yeah that would be instant Blood Hunt, no matter how far they ran.

[@IfIWereTheDevil]

Yes if they were to do it right now, it would cause more problems, but it would be wise to have an exit strategy to work on, and use when they get the chance.

[@joshclay2857]

is it just me or is mathas always super quiet? I can't hear him half the time.

[@MarkATorres1989]

Damn unsure which Dakota bothers me more... Impulsive hot head Dakota that doesn't know her place. Or... Blood bonded docile obedient doll Dakota of the Cammies... Edited: Huh so Dakota is a name after the dog... is that an Indiana Jones reference from the Last Crusade?

[@user-jv7gr1jb3r]

_Junior!_

[@pretentiousname01]

The irony is that being illiterate, Dakota can't read the book of the grave war to free herself from the blood bond. Not that she would want to, Prince Bella is a wonderful person that has nothing but her best interest at heart.

[@danieltilson4053]

That makes me wonder... Is it actually reading the book that gives the immunity? Or just knowing the contents? If the latter, Zach could create an audiobook of it for her and force Dakota to listen.

[@pretentiousname01]

@@danieltilson4053 unno its spooooky maaaagic stuff. so who knows.

[@TheFuriousBrother]

so I got a theoretical question: if ava and oli did the thing and rouse for it... and then ava would rouse all the time (getting fed enough to sustain it), what would be the result (after 9 months)? other vampire settings had something for that (e.g. Blade)...

[@ryan1000011]

rousing doesn't make them alive again. All fluids in a vampires body are blood that why sex with a vampire can cause a blood bond so nothing would happen

[@silentcomedyW5]

That's what would happen for thin bloods in revised edition. They could spend loads of blood over 9 months and birth a child. However, in V5 there is a merit for thin bloods to just be able to give birth to children. It's on account that the bloods too weak to kill all of their human functions and make them full vampires. They give birth to dhampirs which we have no system for in V5 but they are basically a step between Thin Blood and Vampire

[@cccgq]

Hmm....is Rebekah under the Ivory tower instead of being drawn to the Middle East?

[@NekoKat.]

I know this comment is like 4 years late but I only recently started watching this chronicle. Asa long time Gangrel player it was really painful to watch Dekota just give up and roll over for Bella. Bella: Oh Dekota I'm going to take away everything that makes you you. Dekota: hehehe ok😢

[@Revan_7even]

Woah, was a bit startled by the new Dakota look. Looks even more like she'd fit in at "The Rack" than her homeless getup.

[@jazzmaradermedia3550]

I don't like mind-controlled Dakota. most unsettling shit I've ever seen.

[@williamlyon7553]

Zach did fuck all and got one of worse Punishments lol

[@HenriqueErzinger]

The music in this episode had the tone completely wrong and it was super distracting u.u"

[@anvos658]

Daw, from the new cos, looks like Dakota evolved into a grunge teenager, instead of a young old cat lady, thanks to toreador blood. . Was expecting Rudy to say I am your father. . Guilt and Regret is an odd emotion to want to want to hang on to. . Well aint that a kick in the shin, learning you could have just been always mildly rebellious against authority and oppositional defiant rather than having to hide in a sewer and be a walking masquerade breach. . Weird how Nos claim their family and they send Olley in blind to, surprise, Ava and Zach's mother is dead. This is also weird that they wouldn't tell Olley if his fight club falls under forfeited assets. . Well so Dakota saved her cat and got Saito one step closer to being staked and dragged back to the Chantry. . Was sort of hoping Dakota went, I can't push you out of my life, I want to be with you. . Sadly if Dakota doesn't want to be called a child she's going to need to find one of at best handful of Cam Tzimitzsce. . Rather funny seeing Bella dance around, if the Sheriff is blood bound to me, one of the avenues of ever being deposed is gone. . Oh EE how dare you suggest Dakota would think the most wonderful majestic person in her life could fear a methusala? . Feel like Ava should have gotten a bonus die for Zach trying again so soon after a mental/hypnotic assault , to represent her mind being on guard. . Funny how Ava is the one who lost humanity yet Zach is the one directly turning on the other. . She was fluttering her eyes, because you were frying her brain. . Really not sure why Zach is trying to permanently nerf his sister's dice roll pool by being in a relationship with a Nos, when their potentially going into a big fight. . This coterie is quickly turning into one Zach with dominate and manipulation trying to control the entire coterie, not realizing the people being loyal to the Camarilla sending doctored reports will eventually be caught up, or the Camarilla will start questioning why your coterie stare blankly and drool blood drops. Like seriously your average ventrue player isn't this bad. . Hey you finally realized Madison wasn't some epic journey.

[@crownprince76]

I almost think scenes that do not involve individuals directly should be muted from the storyteller. Zach Ava and Illie shouldn't know immediately what happens with Dakota. As much tension is in the story already the suspense of them not really knowing would have added a LOT of extra tension. I really like this story as much as I complain about the characters...

[@danieltilson4053]

They knew from the sentencing that she would be blood bound. The rest isn't important really.

[@Timlagor]

Music is far too loud

[@xdajlo82]

Ollie being Omnisexual makes me so happy

[@rossnorris2351]

I think Zach is a little overly paranoid, and maybe a little bitter over the fact of his torture. Maybe the coterie needs to help teach him to ease up. If his advice id followed, I see more trouble in the coterie's future.

[@RedCometofJupiter]

OH NOOOOOO

[@anangrycucco]

Red dot has a terrible memory lol

[@QuakeMidaro]

The shift in Dakota's personality is disturbing...

[@TheStormWolf10]

I’m sorry but wth happened Oo

[@Slyxen3]

Ollie got off easy compared to the rest.

[@SGriffoon]

I don’t like the fact that they always react to things said by the other member of their coterie even when their character isn’t physicaly present to hear it. I know it can be boring to force players to turn off their headphone if they cannot seperate what they know from what their character knows ( wich to be honest is freaking hard to do when you hear someone say that they intend to backstab you for exemple).

[@LittleRedDot]

I think it's more the players reacting than the characters. We're all great gamers and have spoke as a group in depth about meta-gaming. We all try very hard not to allow what's said when our character isn't around seep into character choices. As a player it's always really interesting and important to hear what the character's think about Dakota. It lets me know if my intentions and choices are landing. I feel like turning off head phones would very much force me to disassociate myself from the table and story. It's a joy to get to hear other character's plot against me

[@TheDFIANT]

It is called metagaming and I agree with you that it is annoying. The biggest metagamer BY FAR in this group is EnterElysium aka Zack Heloise. In all groups I have played with, metagaming is punished by the Storyteller with less experince points or even no experience points. The Storyteller explains why this was done and eventually players learn to separate their knowledge from their character's knowledge. When a player is uncertain if their character knows something, ask the Storyteller or the other players. Example: "Did your character tell my character about X?" Problem solved. But since EnterElysium is the CEO of Roll4it he will probably hold that power over the other players heads and continue with his metagaming. We are on episode #21 now and he is still metagaming as much as ever.

[@TheDFIANT]

My favorite characters are Oliver Hopkins and Shuichi Saito. I would really like to see GamingFTL be invited more to play Saito. I like how TheBubbernaut has played Oliver to sort of become the "dad" of the group even though he comes from a broken home. GamingFTL plays Shuichi Saito as a calm and clever Kindred, so when Saito botched a roll and trashed his office in frustration over his own incompetence, it was a big change in behaviour. I liked it. We have not really heard Saito's opinion on Camille's betrayal. Little_Red_Dot's character Dakota has now learned that actions have consequences and if she does not get her teenager antics in check it will be the end of her. The question is if she has learned her lession and if so, where does she go from here? If her old self was a free roaming Kindred who took orders from no one, but that behaviour must stop or she dies, then who is she now? Maybe she will aim to become the new sheriff, because then she will only take orders from one person, the Prince. It will be interesting to see. Miss_Magitek's character Ava Heloise is a brown-noser and a backstabber. I like it, because it keeps things interesting. MargaretKrohn's character Camille Delinoire turned out to be a Camarilla infiltratior among the Anarchs. I liked it. It was a big chock. She is now a Primogen, but where does she go from here and to what extent will she protect Ava? Everyone has a line. EnterElysium needs to stop metagaming with his character Zach Heloise. I hate it and I am not the only one as can be read in the the comment sections of the other episodes.

[@Crushanator1]

I only just started watching this show but this is the third consecutive episode where Zach has told other characters about the conversation between Cammy and Bella re Rowan no one else was present for, before Mathas corrects him. I know the lines between what players know and their characters know blur, but it seems habitual with EE specifically Dot and Magitek making funny faces while other characters have a scene is a non issue imho