HiHat Setup & Sonic Ramifications | Ep. 7 - Cymbal Sounds

[@td4owner]

I’ve played orchestral cymbals before and never made that connection with hi-hat tilting. That actually solves my problem with my left foot hi-hat playing sounding dead, thanks a lot!

[@Mieczu_DRUMS]

To prevent rod bending, when I'm going for a gig and I'm taking my hihat stand which won't fit into my bag i unscrew the top hihat tub I screw my hihat clutch to the top of the rod and I leave the rod inside the top tub, that way my hihat rod is always perfectly straight!

[@thomashassell]

Same

[@bbj7383]

Yeah me too

[@kennymik1509]

Great video! You're providing a great service to drummers.

[@dallasrogers4844]

Amazing video. I had a close look at my hats today, and gave the top cymbal a bit more freedom in the clutch felts! Far out, it was revolutionary. It sounds so much better! 🔥🔥

[@jonashellborg8320]

I love hi hats, and spend a lot of time with both setup and strike technique. One eye opening moment I remember is whilst keeping a fairly tight clutch, I saw a video with Max Roach - his clutch was super loose. Tried that, adjusted my playing a little and instant nirvana. Since then I keep a mostly loose clutch. You touched on the key parameters in this video, there are endless choices to make with all of this to find the sound you want. I would even argue, from personal experience, that hi hats you think you don’t like might just be a matter of wrong stand and clutch setup.

[@G60syncro]

I found out an interesting byproduct of using my old Ludwig hat stand with the hinge in the middle of the rod... It had developped a bit of slop. I learned to live with it but we once had ths song that had a prominent tambourine beat. I quickly figured out I could clamp a ching ring on the rod, keep the ball of my foot firmly planted on the pedal but stomping withthe heel only. It sent enough of a shock wave up the stand to activate the jingles but kept the hats closed tightly to play the groove that was happening there. I've machined replacement bronze bushings and added some industrial hose (Polyethelyne pneumatic hose) material to give smooth action and no metal to metal contact to my stand... But that slop remained because it's a feature!

[@danroth7260]

Very interesting video! It's neat to take a deeper look at a piece of hardware

[@golflre7179]

Excellent info - thx!

[@TsunamiBeefPies]

I use a DW/Gibraltar clutch with a quick-release that's very easy. But I sure do need a new hi-hat stand! I'm using one that was a gift from a friend right now, and it has external springs. It works well, but it sure is noisy. Tomorrow, first thing I do, I'm going to take that stand apart and check the rod. I can't thank you enough for that insight! Tuesdays are better because of SLaD! Thanks Ben and Cody!

[@kellerc73]

Great video! I've been having a strange issue with my stand making a click noise and after watching this video I think I know why. Some rare info here😊

[@heathrobertbowden4925]

Back to the future

[@kushking420]

my guitar player bent my hihat rod accidently smacking his guitar neck to it, he almost fell down on my drum set too. I have a Sonor hihat stand with a hex rod, and can't find a new one anywhere in north america online, I don't think they even make them anymore but they're great as the rod never loosens like regular round ones as those ones typically loosen and collapse your top cymbal to the bottom one

[@sambeazley3900]

I’ve never had my normal round rods coming loose either. Just gotta have a half decent clutch

[@kestassvetikas5491]

Guys! I love your videos! :) But on this one I don't agree about "Cymbal on the stand is just a cymbal on the stand" part. There are some variables too. The main one is that cymbals sounds better on straight stands because the boom arm gives some weird humming. And also some energy we put to the cymbal is waisted and goes to that boom arm. Of course it's more noticable on lighter stands.

[@jerrygamez5723]

Love your videos. Thanks so much.

[@lajollascott]

I've got three hihat clutches and they all have threading. I love my hats beyond reason, and now I'm kinda freaked out. Off to order a new Remo clutch...

[@aheellesstrio6467]

As always great video. Question; have you ever made video related to different drums… I mean different shells like e.g. maple - poplar -maple and just maple or other ones? That would be interesting from sound point of view…

[@MrMateogaguilar]

Loved it! I generally set the tilter towards me in order to have the place where the two cymbals touch each other. I feel that having them this way, at the place where I'll be playing them, gives me more control on the HH openings and the length of them. Hope this makes sense, english is not my first language. Cheers

[@ShawnBohrer]

Yes! If you put the tilter on the side closest to you it also prevents the edge of the bottom cymbal from sticking out and chipping away at your sticks when you play the hi-hat with the shoulder of your stick. I also find it makes it easier for me to see the angle and adjust the screw if needed while I'm playing. It does mean the cymbals will tilt away from you slightly but it is very slight and I've never found that to be a problem when playing with the tip or shoulder of the stick.

[@bbj7383]

Spring tension is so critical... I've played house kits with super high tension, and when heel down, it's definitely hard to get a tight closed sound. Im weird... i play heel up BD but heel down HH. I can be much more creative this way and it helps with balance.

[@chrisellis5371]

I do the same most of the time

[@ToniVoncell]

Interesting

[@StoyanStoyanov88]

My hi hat is very loud,how can i make more quiet, bottom cymbal to put on top,or top cymbal put on the bottom?

[@thomashassell]

Neither. Put GAFF tape on the inside of both cymbals. Let sound be your guide to the amount of tape you use. Or just get a different set with a more subtle breakpoint.

[@krusher74]

bigger or heavier cymbals are louder, if you don't like the sound of them it better to sell and get some lighter/small one. If you put the heavy bottom cymbal on top they will be even louder. As was said you can mute them somewhat with tape but that not a nice sound.

[@StoyanStoyanov88]

@@krusher74 Thank you for information

[@DarthCiliatus]

Try hitting it softer.

[@patdeniston3697]

I never thought about the tightness of the clutch. Gonna chack that and i bet mine is too tight. Or at least tighter than i want it. Thanks

[@jc3drums916]

I have mine as loose as it will go without giving me that "click" feel when playing with the foot. I like the sound and the feel that way, but I know a lot of people who like it tighter, I guess it lets the hats open a bit faster.

[@ned2one]

Have you tried having the tilt mechanism on the other side so that it's angled away from you? Is there a reason we have the angle aiming towards us?

[@SoundsLikeADrum]

Since the production of this video, Cody now tends to have the tilter on the opposing side so that the bottom cymbal is tilted away.

[@krusher74]

I'm surprised you did not cover a part of the distance of the cymbals apart open. People seem to be between 1/2" and 2". Too close, and you don't have much room to get a foot chick. Too far apart, and it takes a lot of spring compression to hold them together and a long way to move than for a foot chick.

[@denishaberley2509]

Recommendations for tilter position when using bottom hi-hat cymbal with drilled holes or wave edge please - level or tilted?

[@SoundsLikeADrum]

That’s really up to you. You might not need much of a tilt given the venting of the cymbals but this is really up to personal preference. Experiment with it and see what you think.

[@jc3drums916]

I never needed to tilt my Quick Beats.

[@kenpoels]

🔥🔥🔥

[@srbournival]

Is that a 16 inch dry head? I thought the largest was a 14 inch.

[@SoundsLikeADrum]

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[@srbournival]

@@SoundsLikeADrum ahhhhhh. Forgot about that one. It’s a classic!!!!

[@0tf850]

Frick my poor high hats have been super choked.