Found out you passed away. The good news is you are living on in your videos. Thanks for being a great teacher!! Wishing your family well
@chrisbgarrett10 ай бұрын
Nope. He’s alive! New videos again
@Mo11y6664 жыл бұрын
Gees you never fail to teach something completely awesome in one of your episodes. Thank you.
@wldtrky384 жыл бұрын
I just can't say THANK YOU enough George ! Not sure I would have gotten into distilling without you Sir. I had the desire, and actually most of the knowledge, but I lacked a mentor to keep me from making BAD moonshine. Happy Distilling and Thanks Again !
@1SGCurt3 жыл бұрын
Out of all the other videos out there on this subject, yours are the best.
@wirmuessenhierraus Жыл бұрын
Hero! Glad I found your channel. It's interesting, entertaining and there is so much to learn. Sad it's been quiet for a while but at some point everything is said, I guess. Thank you for your service!
@energonjunkie4 жыл бұрын
Been loving getting back in to your videos, George :-) Very happy to hear the comparisons to sourdough as well, that's been a life-long passion for me. One bit of advice I'd offer to anyone doing sourdough, sour mash or any of the like is learn how to make what I like to call 'doomsday vaults' for your starter. Take my sourdough, I've got a frozen portion at home as well as the active one in the fridge, a frozen portion in Mum's freezer and I feed that when I'm down (I got my love of sourdough from her). Plus I've learned how to freeze-dry started at home and had nothing but success, I've been assured that the same method works just as well using barm or backset from sour mash as well.
@mikefleming6604 жыл бұрын
For our sour mash we would take 25% of the backset and put it in the fermenter with the new batch instead of saving it and adding it directly to the still later. It lowers the PH and yeast love it. In fact we would take it from the still when the temp was still around 155F (after they were turned off and cooled a bit) and put it directly in the fermenter to keep the temp in there above the 143F to allow the amylase to have further time to convert before pitching DADY. Not sure if this could be a #4 type sour mash for George.
@BarleyandHopsBrewing4 жыл бұрын
Awesome technique. I just answered your email. May ad this to a future video. I particularly like the idea of using the hot mash as a means to increase the temperature of the new mash for conversion. Brilliant. George
@ericbest9562 Жыл бұрын
Can you freeze the backsets if you aren't ready to start another mash yet? Have you ever tried it?
@mikefleming660 Жыл бұрын
@@ericbest9562 I have never tried that, but you would want to make sure the alcohol is mostly distilled out which it should be besides your tails, which you can let your still run and just collect the tails in a jar and dump them. This will allow it to freeze more easily and it won't hurt the yeast at all.
@ericbest9562 Жыл бұрын
@@mikefleming660 awesome, thank you!
@adamw27854 жыл бұрын
Taking stillage/backset and putting that into the next ferment is also an industry standard for sour mash. That's second generation though. Since stillage/backset is typically low pH already, because the ferment it came from had been infected with lactobacillus. This also saves on water and helps keep flavour profiles similar between batches. They may use between 33% and 40% stillage when doing this. Another method is to mash as normal, then drop the temp to around 40C, and intentionally add lactobacillus starter to the mash, to cause the souring.
@davidprice75464 жыл бұрын
What temperature do you ferment at that you would drop it to 40C (104F)? I am curious if I can add some lactobacillius from a probiotic to my mash days prior to pitching yeast to obtain a sour mash. My experience is only in beer and wine, so until I started messing with kviek, I would always ferment around 20-24C (68-75F). With kviek, I'm fermenting at 27-34C(80-94F).
@devoid424 жыл бұрын
Always love learning new stuff, I see you are trying some stuff from your meetup.
@knoxvillehermitfreemoviesm362510 ай бұрын
very informative
@mustavertwang4 жыл бұрын
You sir are a gentleman, salutations from an Englishman.
@TheRonzo674 жыл бұрын
I just now had a question for George. Called him and he answered it. He's a man of his word.
@microwavedsoda3 жыл бұрын
copper is there as a filter for hydrogen sulfide that is produced from berries and the like. The stainless won't do that.
@fourdeadinohio83034 жыл бұрын
i screwed up in the right direction...for once. i'm on my 3rd. gen sour mash. i knew about saving yeast and my used corn, from George's videos and using back set from Still It. (ujssm) i just put it all together. i love this hobby and it's not the kill, it's the hunt that makes this fun.... well somewhat the kill....lol
@JoeSmols Жыл бұрын
PS, you're an amazing teacher George, if it wasn't for you I wouldn't have bought a still and made some delicious bills!
@ericberardinelli34154 жыл бұрын
Love the videos George. I have one question though....Where can I find that song in the beginning? I've been searching and can't find it anywhere.
@BarleyandHopsBrewing4 жыл бұрын
Send email and I will send the MP3
@intermediatenoodler64084 жыл бұрын
@@BarleyandHopsBrewing douglasnagel6@gmail.com
@oneman466133 ай бұрын
Hey George I have one of those dibosh 20l/5gal still runs good but the lid is floppy .the new reflux column w/sight glass also dibosh sways in the wind . I'm afraid it will tip over. Question: what can I do to strengthen my lid . 8:34
@miketurner85424 жыл бұрын
Where do you store your barm between distillings? Refrigerate? Does it get better with age or have a shelf life?
@boobyhill34564 жыл бұрын
Hey George been following the videos and have learned so much but im still not understanding how the old timers could use corn,malted corn,and sugar only no yeast in the wash. How is this possible without pitching yeast? Please do a video on the old time recipes if you havent already thank you so much!
@ctreatman4 жыл бұрын
How long will the spent sour grains keep in the bucket before they're used for the next mash? Can they be kept longer than 3-4 days? And when are you adding them? During the mash or just before pitching your yeast?
@jimmydesire81904 жыл бұрын
Will I have to run out methanol in my sour mash second batch
@jabird2124 жыл бұрын
Great video! Could you also use method #3 for other spirits in distilling (rum, tequila, or vodka)?
@bryanderian1524 жыл бұрын
great job thanks again
@davidwelch20114 жыл бұрын
Is it advisable to use the back set for proofing down your run to the proof you want?
@BarleyandHopsBrewing4 жыл бұрын
If you want it to taste like ass, yes.
@davidwelch20114 жыл бұрын
@@BarleyandHopsBrewing Thanks for the quick reply. New at this. Didn't want to do anything stupid.
@dannylee91384 жыл бұрын
Do you have a wheat vodka mash recipe
@stephenkamper92613 жыл бұрын
You could get rid of a lot of words and be way more effective.
@czyzu124 жыл бұрын
Hello George. How long I can keep sour mash before running it on still. Can I store it as normal mash, or it will get too sour?
@andrewspike82574 жыл бұрын
czyzu12 my last one I kept about 4 months plus. This one I’m distilling tomorrow will be 8 months since I put the wash on. It Tastes beautiful right now. Can’t wait till it goes through the still!
@markellis79614 жыл бұрын
@@andrewspike8257 is that the grain method, he said 4 days in the video, but i might need to let it sit for a few weeks before i can get around to making another mash out of it? where as the 3rd method having been boiled, I can stick into a sterilised fermentor/bucket and let it sit until i'm ready to use it (I assume).
@paulgrendall51383 жыл бұрын
So what your saying is our sour mash is a bucket full of Jizz?!?!
@skepticfucker280 Жыл бұрын
Sour mash = how I learned to stop caring and love not sanatizing
@duanefunke67194 жыл бұрын
So does a sour mash have to be fermented on the grains or can the grains be sparged rinsed and then turned into a sour mash
@robertlewis33363 жыл бұрын
Hey, George. Lotsa folks out here are missing you & your videos. Hope you make it back soon.
@Mychannel-fw5mb2 жыл бұрын
I reuse all the corn...add sugar, 30% stillage and the rest local spring water...and bread yeast. ...I have never let it SIT to get sour in the sun etc..but I would like to try that
@kirtley46602 жыл бұрын
I've never done a sour mash but I want to try one. If you don't mind I have a couple questions. Let me know if I have this correct: at least 25% of the sour mash was made from mash from a previous run? Like if it was an 100 gallon batch of sour mash 25 gallons would be from the last batch?? Also, how many generations can you do sour mash? Will it get nasty after several generations? Thank you
@carlkiehne34232 жыл бұрын
Anyone know what happened to George?
@ailkenllib4 жыл бұрын
Right on, thanks for another great video George! So if I'm hearing you right, using all three methods would be basically a UJSSM, correct? It takes a portion of the grain, all the trub/barm and a volume of the backset. Or can a UJSSM be called a sour mash since it isn't all grain?
@MrChit-od9po2 жыл бұрын
..hello to a fellow from "the great forum". Same question dawned on me to use all three. It never occured that was the methods to that recipe. Ive never made it, but have an itch now. Still on brotha
@jakecoutcher13414 жыл бұрын
You are the best George you Taught me how to distill years ago I remember when you had five subscribers look at you now 50,000
@prometheus49164 жыл бұрын
I went to look up y'alls website today found out it had been closed😣😣glad to see we still got you bud😁❤😁🍻
@davidmeier9562 жыл бұрын
Where in the CFR 27 does it state that sour mash needs to be at least 25% of stillage? It is a ph adjustment to about 4.5 to 5 and is usually 2 parts (combination or method 1 and 3 you mention). Put some fermenting liquid from past batch into next and during cooking add some stillage to the water to cook. I sometimes also use method 2 to transfer yeast.
@JoeSmols Жыл бұрын
I need an answer to this question if anyone can help, has anybody tried to do a Sourmash with a fruit bill??? I put 8lbs of cranberries, 20lbs of raisins with two bushels of apples. It fermented for a week and it smells delicious. I strained most of the solids out and put it in two 5 gallon buckets & covered it. It smells fine and I'm going to try and run it with new fruit & sugar to all of the old fruit tomorrow, Is this a good idea?
@markell381152 жыл бұрын
Question. Can i mash in new grains on the left over mash right after the run? The left over liquid is still hot enough to steep the grain and then will cool down to the 155 degrees for the amylase enzyme to be added. Or does it have to sit for a few days in order to rerun it? Is it also ok to use more than the 25% of the left over after a run?
@circularfile20094 жыл бұрын
I would take the sour dough starter and 'dissolve' in water to get the yeast going in all the water. Then add all the other ingredients to the water then add 2/3 of the flour and mix. Then add 1/4 cup of flour at a time until the dough is mildly sticky. (you may not add all the flour called for, the dough presentation is what is important). I couldn't help myself, I've been baking for a month and I am an expert ;).
@deborahstclair41264 жыл бұрын
I recently visited several bourbon distilleries and most mentioned sour mashing but none of them actually explained the various techniques for doing it. Thanks George.
@mr.thundermaker63192 жыл бұрын
Since you are adding 3lbs of old mash into a new batch, do you also need to add more water?
@sbnewtcorp3 жыл бұрын
Ah, malolactic fermentation, NOW I get it!!!
@garrymcgaw47454 жыл бұрын
Thanks George, another sweet tip, I'll try that ferment on the grain one, I find it easier to remove the alcohol wash from the grain... than to remove the liquid and then ferment it. Love your tips for beginners, it makes hitting the bulls eye (or there abouts)a lot easier.
@rickdowty84562 жыл бұрын
No matter how many other people distill on ytube you are my absolute first choice for good information. Im hoping you and yours are well. Thank you for your good work .
@rockyrdc4 жыл бұрын
Sorry commenting while watching its known as dunder in rum
@philzolth47103 жыл бұрын
Which method does Jim Beam use? 1,2 or 3?
@jrjackson8429 Жыл бұрын
What about if it's fruit does that make a difference
@robstjw4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, George! Always putting out info for my thick skull to (try to) absorb. I’d be willing to argue there actually is a species more complicated and harder to understand that women... yeast!
@LemmingsRun4 жыл бұрын
Lactic Acid does not cause fermentation but is the product of the secondary fermentation carried out by various sp. of Lactobacillus bacteria.
@U812GREEN4 жыл бұрын
Great information, I like the spent grain method. It doesn't take long for them to start it's (lactic) fermentation but if it smells like catfish chum that's what it should only be used for.
@goodtimeswithbrian4 жыл бұрын
Thanks George, do you have to use the same grain bill?
@davidcooley51354 жыл бұрын
Hey George I haven't spoken to u in a while I haven't had many questions but I'm wanting to build me a copper pot and was wandering what u thought was the best thickness for building your own still
@mellowman86952 жыл бұрын
So how much did he get out of that 5 gallons?
@chrislnflorida5192 Жыл бұрын
#3 to me sounds easier to make and understand
@michaelnichols19774 жыл бұрын
Hi George, I have to admit your videos are eerily on point with things I recently start to research. *Grabs foil hat*
@mikebullard17974 жыл бұрын
I was going to say that myself. I'm putting my foil on too.
@BarleyandHopsBrewing4 жыл бұрын
I wear them all the time LOL
@skeezdogg824 жыл бұрын
Ha ha
@fedderback14 жыл бұрын
would there be a difference in taste if you used a sweet roasting ear corn verses a regular field corn?
@traditionbrewingandcook12062 жыл бұрын
What should the sour mash taste like
@jayrad0174 жыл бұрын
Damn genius this guy. Great teacher. Thank you Sir
@chuckdontknowdoya61004 жыл бұрын
Another video filled with awesome information George I've been using my lees over and over I find I get a much better fermentation that way then starting fresh each time and now I know why thanks for taking the time to help us all do it better.
@highergroundfarm75274 жыл бұрын
Chuck - when you reuse your lees on your next ferment, do you let them sour before you add them? How long and do you have it airlocked when you do? Can you share a little about your process? TIA.
@chuckdontknowdoya61004 жыл бұрын
@@highergroundfarm7527 I use them right away if I can't then I recover my yeast and store it in a mason jar in the refrigerator until I need it again letting them sour is a rum thing which I plan to do when they start harvesting the sugar cane and I can get a drum of sugar cane juice really cheap I will post on how it works out.
@ankurrawat10393 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed ths video.. 👍
@Firemanlr0114 жыл бұрын
Great info! Question; when using what’s left in the still, do you put the material in the mash container to ferment with the new grain or keep aside to add in the still when the your mash is ready (separately)?
@TravisQuiring3 жыл бұрын
This is my question too after watching this video, anyone have an answer?
@buddysmoken4903 жыл бұрын
No refux flavor i love it.
@alexispowell82862 жыл бұрын
What song is that as well
@ryangardner2174 жыл бұрын
I heard the podcast with Jesse, Great content!
@vincecallagher763611 ай бұрын
Thanx
@kevind76174 жыл бұрын
Happy Distilling..
@alanlangley72464 жыл бұрын
4-7th run is the bomb
@gnuclur89524 жыл бұрын
George aren’t you just allowing the grain/s to ferment? Making lactic acid? If that’s the case an inoculate can be added which could speed up the process.... thoughts? I have a habit of stopping the vid and texting out a comment or question.... sorry please forgive. Explaining things can be frustrating huh? :-)
@afterburner39994 жыл бұрын
I cant say that 3 is called sour unless its been left to go SOUR like the one that is put outside for 4 days untill it goes sour like SOUR MILK hey thees one to try SOUR MILK MASH.
@hookedonjeep14 жыл бұрын
Great info George!!! 👍👍👍
@SyBernot4 жыл бұрын
#4 (pulled from my brewers hat) you can just add in off the shelf souring bugs to the ferment, yogurt, bleu cheese, buttermilk, or a shot of lacto from you LHBS :) . Let the yeast start and take hold, after a day or 2 of active fermentation introduce the bugs.
@davidprice75464 жыл бұрын
So an addition of a product like "bio salud" or "yakult" that has active lactobacillus ought to turn a mash into a sour mash. am I right?
@davidprice75464 жыл бұрын
Would it matter if it was added after or before pitching yeast, like in a kettle sour?
@jamesj89654 жыл бұрын
How does column vs straight to condenser pot still equate. Would column still be like running 2 strips in a pot still or are they the same cause they your not running the cold water jacket? Jw if the column with packing strips more flavor than kettle to condenser pot still. I want cleaner flavors. Not vodka.
@1SGCurt3 жыл бұрын
The concern I have with adding three pounds of the last batch to the new batch is how to convert the new grain bill so that you don't have to much solids in your 6 gallon fermenter, it seems it would reduce the amount of liquid you would have to put into the still because you don't have as much room to add water. I imagine you would only have about 3 gallons of liquid to run with all the new grain and then three pounds of the last mash?
@MrBillroetter4 жыл бұрын
Sour mash is good
@edlibey81772 жыл бұрын
Thanks. As usual very useful information. I have always wondered how these things were done before commercial yeasts were available. You mention long chain fatty acids. Do these become esters? They are too high boiling to distill over, unless a small amount gets carried over with the water / ethanol. I am starting to understand more and more that getting high purity alcohol is simple science and is the easy part. Getting something that tastes good that is the artistry.
@LordLarryWho4 жыл бұрын
Puzzled, wouldn't PWM vary frequency rather than amplitude?
@BarleyandHopsBrewing4 жыл бұрын
It controls amplitude. The frequency does not change
@davidwelch20114 жыл бұрын
@@BarleyandHopsBrewing George, you are correct that the frequency does not change however the duty cycle is what varies. You can vary the amount of time your device is on and off. You can have the on time longer with a shorter off time, or you can have a shorter on time with a longer off time.
@wansto4 жыл бұрын
Hi George, Thank you for this video, really enjoyed this one. Please can you advise if method 3 (stillage leftovers) can be used on a sugar wash from gin? Note, both from the stripping run and the vapor infused gin run?? Good video and thank you for your support.
@c.a.martin30294 жыл бұрын
What if you use Malolactic bacteria in your fermented mash and do a second fermentation? The lactic acid would produce the same flavor?
@morpheq4 жыл бұрын
🙌🏻 mash time!!
@ryhole474 жыл бұрын
George, on the 3rd method, do you put the backset in with the fermentation or in the still right before running the next batch?
@czyzu124 жыл бұрын
With the fermentation
@ryhole474 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@markellis79614 жыл бұрын
Thank you both, that was my question, I figured it would be the fermentation, as the most it could do in the still would be to add some different notes to it.
@mitch_st18093 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. Helped me a lot and did my first run of shine yesterday.thanks. Please can you tell me the name and artist of the song in the beginning.
@jamesramey35493 жыл бұрын
I have a question for you George. If I decide to use the backset as a sour mash how long would you recommend storing that for and what would be a proper way to store it? Thank you.
@jeffrobinson29394 жыл бұрын
George, how long can you store the back set? It maybe 7-10 days before I can make my next mash.
@TheExalaber4 жыл бұрын
I was under the impression that barm was the yeast that floated to the top of an ale. Either way, that is why eastern and central Europe have more sourdough breads than western Europe. It is much harder to extract yeast for baking from lager than from ale.
@michaelsmith16754 жыл бұрын
Methed 4 use Brettanomyces Bruxellensis yeast like when making a sour beer
@willthemeadmaker40484 жыл бұрын
Do you have a license for distilling? How do you not get in trouble if not?
@MrVomitusdk3 жыл бұрын
4:14 for sourmash
@johnm.5153 жыл бұрын
Ty
@rockyrdc4 жыл бұрын
So basically you're just reusing yeast
@britinozoz4 жыл бұрын
Thanks again George.,..Re#3...how long can that 25% be kept before being used??
@BarleyandHopsBrewing4 жыл бұрын
No idea
@mcfloyd9104 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your videos! The science behind all this fascinates me. Quick question using the 3rd method from this video; do you just continue to use 25% over and over, from one batch to the next, or is it make one batch, then one batch of sour, then start fresh? Thanks again!
@andrewspike82574 жыл бұрын
Mike Britt over and over and over some more
@mannye4 жыл бұрын
So is it bad to let my mash clear before distilling? I have only been using clarified (looks crystal clear almost) mash that I treat the same as if I were making beer or wine except I don't filter it.
@BarleyandHopsBrewing4 жыл бұрын
It is a best practice to clear the way you describe.
@caintfindme47354 жыл бұрын
I'm interested in how the AC unit is used.
@patmancrowley85094 жыл бұрын
George, doesn't "sour mash" assure the flavor continuity between batches?
@patmancrowley85094 жыл бұрын
So my question was answered in stage 3. Thanks, George.
@philiptruitt4 жыл бұрын
Thanks George!
@davemclean80864 жыл бұрын
Totally off topic I just inherited 25 gallons of so so apple cider can I just run this through a still a strip it
@davidprice75464 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah! Assuming it's hard apple cider. If it's not, toss some yeast and such in it so it can ferment, then toss it in a still. I don't know if that already has a name or not, but I would call that apple brandy.
@nrouteroadservice70674 жыл бұрын
do u have a website
@BarleyandHopsBrewing4 жыл бұрын
No. This is a sharing, informative channel only. I am not trying to profit from it.
@jasonmaldonado86734 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know where I can find this specific type and size distill column?
@rshaughn114 жыл бұрын
Mile Hi Distilling
@Ed-ip2sg4 жыл бұрын
You are a legend!
@ronkeller1084 жыл бұрын
Sent three emails and have had no luck website says they are shut down
@BarleyandHopsBrewing4 жыл бұрын
That has nothing to do with me. I sold the store years ago. email me george.duncan76@gmail.com
@rocketsroc4 жыл бұрын
A bit of confusion on method 3. Is the stillage added to the fermenter or the still? Your diagram shows still, but that doesn't seem like it would have time to do much.
@michaelklein12004 жыл бұрын
I have only used backset for 25% of the next ferment water, with good results. Maybe George puts it in with the next still run, and perhaps I should try that. Agree, unclear in this video..
@claussvane40874 жыл бұрын
I have the same doubt. As he explains it, it sounds like it should go into the fermenter. George?