South African businesses alarmed by U.S. House’s call for assessment of diplomatic ties

A recent vote in the U.S. House of Representatives is causing ripples across the Atlantic and could impact South Africa's trade and diplomatic landscape. The vote calls for a comprehensive assessment of Washington's diplomatic ties with Pretoria, which might have significant implications for several key sectors of the South African economy.
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[@ladislaugomes7447]

I don't think it's in South Africa's interest, dealing with a country who blackmails its trade relationship.

[@herobrinecyberdemon8104]

I don't think it's in South Africa's interest to have relations with a country that supports fascism and apartheid worldwide.

[@beach2787]

Find yourselves some real friends and not bullies in disguise

[@nicolenims3850]

​@@herobrinecyberdemon8104like the US

[@icno123]

Mohammed bin Salman (current crown prince of Saudi Arabia) told The Washington Post in April 2017 that without America's cultural influence on Saudi Arabia, "we would have ended up like North Korea."

[@nicolenims3850]

@@icno123 he would say anything to not get bombed

[@johnsimpson1574]

Kissinger said "If you want to understand American foreign policy you must understand American self interest"

[@wolfgiesinger1597]

I believe he also said "to be america's enemy is dangerous, but to be america's friend is fatal" 😊

[@steveleroux6116]

McDonald is absolute rubbish food and a waste of ingredients 😂

[@anikaswartz1712]

😂

[@tangyonions]

For real it's like overpriced cardboard

[@Code_Machine]

Correct

[@nicolenims3850]

South africa needs to find new partners

[@HeinRichKocHPretoria]

USA is not god. The world is a big place.

[@SocialistParadise]

Says someone most likely using a device running US tech.

[@nicolenims3850]

@@SocialistParadise no a device made out of congolese blood. The colton stolen from Congo by the US.

[@okuhtttf]

How? If the richest nations don’t want to trade then China and Russia is the only ones open for trade. These countries are not famous for trading and would rather seek cheaper alternatives. If there is one thing that history has taught us is that you don’t mess with the US or their partners, as they are the only ones who can give fair money for fair trade and if they cut ties then it is game over for any country’s economic wellbeing. None of our “allies” will ever be able to give or trade as much as the US and its allies will give

[@nicolenims3850]

@@SocialistParadise no someone who is using a phone made out of congolese blood

[@bluepearlagain]

The worlds punisher 🙄

[@rockyr2991]

So basically they are threatening us to be friends with them only! Lmao😂😂

[@execution832]

Its not about threatening you guys to be friends with them only, the point is you have started a song you cannot finish. SA has declared war on the US by joining brics and yet they expect the US not to retaliate?

[@rockyr2991]

@@execution832 So when we joined AU, SADC, UN, G20 signed many trade deals with the US ans EU, Borrow money from IMF and world bank, use the free market system and put up economic zones for large EU multinationals that was not a declaration of war? Narcissistic a bit maybe?

[@Hhhh22222-w]

​@@execution832 so SA can't join non-military alliances? Or do things the US doesn't agree with basically? Sounds like a dictatorship 😂

[@execution832]

@@rockyr2991 there's a difference between those organisations you mentioned and Brics when it comes to their aims...

[@rockyr2991]

@@execution832 No there's no difference, they strategic economic alliances. BRICS, SADC, AU are no different from the AGOA that the US is threatening to cancel with us.

[@brownsonjoneskache9803]

If the USA is not happy when South Africa has been a member of BRICS, the USA can take their companies back to the USA, where they can implement their policies. Respect is of utmost importance when you're not in your own house.

[@ryanwalters6184]

Keep that energy 💪

[@icno123]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@coltraneweir4810]

😂😂😂 there's a reason why the actual guys doing business are worried. They understand the difference between BRICS and the United States and it doesn't seem like they're comfortable with the former alone.

[@icno123]

@@coltraneweir4810 Brics haha common bro don’t make me laugh bro the AUKUS alone is bigger better than the history and future of Brics haha 🤣 do better bro comon

[@ellenmalunga6237]

​@icno123 keep telling yourself that while every other country no longer wants to associate with US, the entitlement is baffling

[@michaellawson6533]

Screw uncle Sam and all his junk franchises. We once lived without them and did just fine. Save our own without royalties leaving the country.

[@okuhtttf]

It’s not just USA it’s also their allies and trade partners who will raise their tariffs for our goods. Meaning that they lock us out of most essential international trade, basically castrating our trade and diminishing our economic growth

[@godschosen1952]

Word Brother!! Throughout the sanctions S.A thrived still

[@Mwesigwa-l8t]

SA should stand on their values because it's a sovereign state

[@paulochaves5827]

You mean like Zimbabwe? You must be a genius not to understand that once the US goes so does the EU and if you think the South African economy can thrive with China and Russia you are living under a Rock . China for one is a parasite it wants resources for cheap and instead of capital they developed the countries with they're own construction companies that Employ they're own people .

[@jaymac72]

What values are those? Corruption? Murder? Rape? What do you know about South Africa. Guess what? Most South Africans hate CHina and Russia. We see through the lies of Winnie the pooh and war criminal Putin.

[@michaellawson6533]

No we are not. We are owned and registered as a corporation on the US SEC.

[@paulochaves5827]

@@Mwesigwa-l8t Values what values ? It's corrupt to the core actually had a president that raped a women . Remember KWESI?

[@lawlesskingza]

​@@michaellawson6533 can you back this up?

[@youme1414]

Why is South Africa not focusing on exporting to Africa?

[@tomsriver2838]

I don't know, maybe it's because Africa doesn't have the same purchasing power as the biggest economy in the world ? I don't know....

[@ellenmalunga6237]

It's what should be done ,let the USA forget about the african continent and let us see how that works out for them

[@ladislaugomes7447]

@youme1414 Because in order to conduct trade with african countries, South Africa will need dollars. This is why it's so important to find a new currency to take the middle man, US, out of the African trade system.

[@youme1414]

@@ladislaugomes7447 Not in the present dispensation. If the tech SA needs can be sourced from China there is no need to wait on USA. African countries need to start trading among themselves for goodness sake.

[@kevindc4961]

Africa is a failed Continent. is a ZIM person going to buy a Car thats manufactured in SA. Shows just how naive your are.

[@malwandemvambo8336]

The day SA stops thinking with their stomachs is the day,it get free from these hypocrites

[@arlenespencer5850]

🎯

[@vuyilemdladla4576]

Do you know how much of our trade is with western countries and countries that are close allies to the west? It's very easy to say such things and I absolutely agree that they are hypocrites but they are not trading partners we'd want to lose. We have to think with our stomachs, virtue is not what makes the economy run.

[@malwandemvambo8336]

@vuyilemdladla4576 all I'm saying is,the day South Africa stops thinking with their stomachs is the day it will be free from these hypocrites,regardless of what they have on us

[@thokozaniskosana6391]

I think its a good thing let them reevaluate their foreign policy with us. Respect South Africas sovereignty as a growing African power.

[@thokozaniskosana6391]

@@wma5440 just pay your municipal bill.

[@bulldogwoof6954]

The USA isolating themselves.

[@apb2081]

lol SA needs the USA not the other way round

[@graceomakada5082]

South Africa can export to Russia and China. It's that simple because US isn't the only market they have in the world.

[@kevindc4961]

Just shows how naive you are, Yes China is big economy, but Russia is a small economy. Russia cannot absorb or invest in SA like USA.

[@graceomakada5082]

@@kevindc4961 If SA has jeopardized it's bilateral relations with USA, then clearly they ve weighed their options. Yes l do agree am naive are you happy now professor?

[@francedigama7533]

Why is this not being reported by local media also? This old news

[@jayjay6239]

The mistake was creating too much trading with one conutry ,should diversify ..

[@okuhtttf]

There is no diversifying if the strongest nation also has the strongest allies and they all raise their tariffs for trade. We’re only left to trade with smaller and poorer nations. Every single country who wants to develop needs the US and their trading partners. If you mess with them then you have only cut of your own arms and legs and made yourself useless for anyone to trade with you accept for the ones who want to take what is left of you. We’re seriously screwed with what the US and their allies have done to us because of our leaders having zero education on how important international trade is

[@wakyIIsr]

South Africa is now the leader of free world. US is going down, in terms of moral and finance, $34 trillion debts

[@okuhtttf]

You don’t understand debt do you? Do you know that that every countries currency is directly related to the US dollar since the end of World War 2? The US has the most debt in the World because they are the richest and most powerful in the world and can manage that amount of debt and need that debt to help them keep on developing their economy. If Africa had to take over the US debt we will crumble at an instant and will most likely take hundreds of years to pay and support that debt

[@arlenespencer5850]

😂 leader of the free world 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@okuhtttf]

@@arlenespencer5850 they are😘 for some it’s hard to accept

[@hulagukhan123223]

18 trillion in private debt as well. Already warnings about unable to pay their debt and their buddy Ukraine about to default

[@wakyIIsr]

@@okuhtttf Absolute nonsense, you still need to service your debts. Few days back a politician exposes that few $trllions is paid for servicing interest alone, the same money can be used for veterans, healthcare and housing homeless off the streets. Low debt-GDP ratio is always better than >100% ratio like the US. This is also the reason for recent Wall Street rout, fear of incoming recession. I have a PHD in economic, I course I know.

[@somaphungarsa]

Let them leave us in peace

[@marelafragrances7847]

Donald Trump must just come to power we had enough of this joe biden administration

[@bstoic561]

Trump was pushing for this aswell

[@okuhtttf]

Trump made trade insanely difficult last time. It’s going to get worse when he is back. Biden was actually the one who made the least amount of trouble for us

[@madtitanmzo]

"Your enemy is not our enemy" Nelson Mandela.

[@RuanvR]

Said the guy who blew up a post office.

[@SocialistParadise]

Regretfully another ANC sucess story. 600 US companies here. 1 Russian. Yup choose sides. Not to count the number of European companies. Unless you drive a Lada suggest you think again.

[@hulagukhan123223]

Have you been to Russia lately? You live in the 80s

[@SocialistParadise]

@@hulagukhan123223 Yup, still very much the same dump outside of a few big cities. Tell you what when every ANC MP swaps his BMW or Merc for a Lada I will give you some credibility.

[@tiaanswarts1951]

From R14b to R21b, you get 15% growth? Nee man..

[@okuhtttf]

What?

[@djgulston]

Yeah, I also heard him say 15%. He was supposed to say 50% growth.

[@klar7946]

Why is this a surprise?

[@christopherbuckley619]

The ANC has messed up South Africa very badly. I am not surprised USA is calling for the assessment of diplomatic ties. I hope our new GNU can fix the problems. ANC must get out of politics as they do not have a clue how to run a country and to have good international relations

[@erikabezuidenhout8555]

No I think you have it totally wrong on one thing. America is a bullying, warmongering, undemocratic, corrupt beast. We should seek for other ways to trade our products. They are not the only country in the world and they are folding in any event. The saying goes “ many ways to skin a cat”

[@daniels9835]

US business need to get off. Everyonenhas right of opinion and association not engineered to suit one party.

[@thierrynolevaux9268]

South Africa should increase royalties on resources that are exported, tax the ultra-wealthy and apply taxes on all foreign tourists.

[@kevindc4961]

Shows just how stupid you are, yes, tax tourists, SA depends on Tourists, we should pay tourists to come to this country with the crime and crumpling infrastructure. Tourists should be encouraged to visit, this is what keeps the economy going.

[@ianrichardmorrissey6082]

Taxing the tourists would be a dumb idea, incentivize tourists to visit with free 1 day visits to the many wild animal parks.

[@thierrynolevaux9268]

@@ianrichardmorrissey6082 Au contraire mon frère, do like Botswana...low volume and high prices, fees for parks. Surcharge tourists from wealthy countries. Always better to keep 'em away than not charge enough.

[@okuhtttf]

@@thierrynolevaux9268don’t know if you’re making a joke or just really clueless or just really dumb. Botswana doesn’t have anything close to SA’s tourism and trade and it’s something that you need in order to grow. Which Botswana will never do. How many cities does Botswana have? How many citizens do they have? How many tourists even want to visit Botswana? Not even South Africans have any interest in even going there for tourism. SA is reliant on money coming in from richer nations. Not the other way around

[@thierrynolevaux9268]

@@wma5440 You have no suggestions? Thoughtvso and guess you'll be leaving if you live there. I was born and lived in the DRC and SA is on the same road downhill unless it starts charging more for its' resources. Taking wealthy tourists and trophy hunters is also good tax revenue.

[@wallacekatini3424]

Let the US assess its homosexuality and gay marriage! Nonsense!😮

[@ryanwalters6184]

Jealous?

[@kagimanye1757]

​@@ryanwalters6184you can't envy an arrogant prick

[@User949F62]

​@@ryanwalters6184 Why would anyone be jealous of people who don't even know what a woman is?

[@user-kf2oi4sq5b]

​@@ryanwalters6184 yup I think he has 🍌 on the brains 🤣🤣

[@cy-villian]

I think we can make our own fried chicken and burgers.

[@cy-villian]

@@wma5440 BRICS is 45% of the worlds population. There are other markets ... as per the comment below "I don't think it's in South Africa's interest, dealing with a country who blackmails its trade relationship"

[@user-rz9op9ox6b]

Also there is no place for the American or Israeli flag in our country.

[@Hartsock2009]

It's not a good idea for SA to deal with a country that allows it's diplomatic representative to crash SA markets based on false information and not apologizing for this action.

[@johnsadler1133]

I am not surprised considering the stupid position the ANC has taken regarding their relationship with Russia and Hamaz. You are known by your friends.

[@desmonddavids5999]

You are a shameless coward...they can cut ties if they want the dollar will be lose its value in the coming years.

[@carlos8040ca]

South Africa has other options, nothing last forever.

[@TheRealEtaoinShrdlu]

Lolz, no we don't. The other options are all horrible and will drain us of any value. Wake up. Don't be an idiot.

[@lawlesskingza]

They own KZbin, they deleted my previous comment where I talk about strengthening Intra African Trade 😂

[@lawlesskingza]

They limit our growth by dictating what we can grow and what we must import from them and their partners so we keep giving them money and relying on them so they can sanction us as they please. Africa for Africans ✊🏿

[@Yesterdie02]

The USA is alarmed with dealing with the ANC just like most South Africans! Dont deal with the ANC deal with DA and private businesses

[@johnsimpson1574]

Every country will expect support if they grant you deals. South Africa wants the deal but not the obligation. Life doesn't work that way.

[@AllyAlliue]

Very imperialistic thinking obviously China didn't get where it is buy letting another country dictate how it deals with other countries, the US hates everything that benefits everyone but USA

[@cellb2619]

what country are you from?

[@ThatGuy-jr1wr]

John the Simp’s son.

[@jeffmason2691]

obligation for what? When you buy groceries from your local grocery store does that obligate you to doing what that store wants when you go back home? Please stop posting ignorant comments.

[@aviweyantolo5023]

Madness. Go ask apartheid regime for your obligations

[@wolfgiesinger1597]

AGOA is like a 3rd class ticket on the Titanic 😊

[@peterlouw7571]

Yeah that's essentially trade blackmail. They act as if they don't need South African trade, they are being stupid. It would just push SA to trad more heavily with other partners.

[@kevindc4961]

Without USA, SA is dead...Economic fact....

[@aviweyantolo5023]

@@kevindc4961 lol you wish

[@margenindustrial1098]

@@kevindc4961 Its a lie... #Americans are NOT stupid, they love money and they will never completely cut ties with SA because of petty nonsense... That thing will never pass, it is being internally pushed by racist right wingers who are friends with #SouthAfrican #Nazi groupings. Already, it was voted down and taken off the agenda and I am surprised why it is in the news again... But rest assured, it will never pass... The US still maintains some low level trade with Russia... Again they know #Ramaphosa is a weak and a controllable stooge... They are trying to arm twist him

[@JayOz1]

​@@kevindc4961But they said in the video USA accounts for only 10% of SA's GDP. So by that math we still have another 90% from other sources. Seems like enough to not be "economically dead" ?

[@wahwah7701]

​@@JayOz1Facts, thanx for exposing this propagandist

[@NgomaPapy-ir8ev]

That why I voted for ANC for the first time cause the American are not the police

[@louisfivaz1367]

We all weigh our true friends at intervals. Well done.

[@majormanfredrex]

The downside of supporting terrorism, particularly when it is based on preposterous pretext, is that you will be ostracised in some way.

[@anitamarshall9804]

South Africa can export throughout Africa and the Middle East.

[@TheRealEtaoinShrdlu]

How?! There are no export paths there and there is no demand for the products we produce at the prices we produce them at! The world does not just work the way you think it does. The world is a much bigger and more complex place than you clearly can understand, and it does not give a F about your uninformed opinions.

[@kwaziphungula]

I understand what the US is saying. If we are tough enough to stand against their foreign policy than we should be tough enough to stand on our two feet and not receive any aid or unearned economic privileges like AGOA. I am surprised that Ramaphosa thought he could antagonize the US foreign policy interests endlessly and that this day would not come. He risked our lives for nothing. He has been the most destructive President here in SA thus far. More destructive than Zuma.

[@zargonfuture4046]

Nicely said and frankly the truth👍

[@Xamtata]

So u wanna be controlled by the USA?

[@kwaziphungula]

​@@Xamtata Not really. But if we don't want to have their influence then we must stop taking their money. The US gives money and economic benefits to foreign countries in order to gain support for their foreign policy position especially when voting at the UN, this is what you would call quid pro quo. If we want to be independent in world affairs and not be influenced by US foreign policy positions, it is only fair that we should also be independent of their money and economic benefits.

[@Brokenansmokey5.99]

Why, as a South African, do i feel like the child being punished for something I didnt do wrong🇿🇦?

[@brightonbanda3873]

Actually we better off without America. We can trade amongst our brothers in Africa, Asia and South America

[@britishchamberofbusinessin5134]

Interesting take by Expert Analyst and British Chamber of Business Director Dr. Rutendo Hwindingwi.

[@margenindustrial1098]

But they should have interview a proper SouthAfrican person and NOT a #Zimbabwean migrant living in South Africa... I always find them (Zim migrants) to be biased, anti-SouthAfrica and always trying to justify themselves why they should be accepted as emigrants in SouthAfrica...

[@margenindustrial1098]

This matter was resolved, why is it back now?... The US stands to loose critical minerals supplies from SouthAfrica if choose to go that route...

[@kagisompofu8494]

A lot of delusional comments, whether you like it or not US is a world leader. South Africa cannot just divest to russia and china because they too need favourable tariffs from the US. 10% of gdp isn't something you can just throw away and think it won't affect an already struggling south african economy, nor can china and russia fill that void because they too are struggling. South Africa chose the wrong side.

[@andilemtshe9063]

People are just ignorant they think this is just a game People will suffer then they blame the same politicians who are taking those decisions

[@kevindc4961]

The first inteligent comment, Good to see smart people like you on this discussion.

[@zuroneuro4665]

South Africa chose the right side in the long run, because the US will be surpassed / has already been surpassed by the economic power of China. It's military potential is the thing to really be afraid of for now. South Africa may chose to leave BRICS or it has to get military backing by Russia or China.Maybe it is wiser for SA to leave BRICS for now, it still can reconsider it somewhen in the future....

[@aviweyantolo5023]

We chose the right side thank you. We chose no one but US!

[@lu881]

Actually not true. Last year the US House attempted this very same thing, and analyst's determined that AGOA exclusion would have minimal impact on our economy. No idea where you're getting this 10% figure, but China is already our largest trading partner, so all it means is that it'll probably become bigger.

[@chrisdelmonte983]

Hahaa .. here comes the human rights and democracy 😂

[@hulagukhan123223]

Global bully at it again

[@zabadackakaHansCoche]

The ultimate situation would be to look for other markets than those controlled by the US. OUR country will be oblitirated financially if we depend on them. As long as we do bussiness with them, we will be manipulated by the west.

[@DJ13854]

we'll work with china

[@erikabezuidenhout8555]

Take your business and go America, take your bullying with you

[@muzigwenda5570]

Let them take their brands and we'll keep our food

[@SCM0NDT]

When you are not pro-genocide.....

[@lightningRatPack]

SA supports Zimbabwe that did a real genocide, China that puts people in camps and Iraq that has slavery, and kills people for being gay. LOL

[@Alucard-yb6fq]

This is why bricks exist

[@insanitywithin1]

I am with Israel 🇮🇱

[@leoniefourie216]

South African politicians must realize that their actions have consequences.

[@ia6750]

I'm high up off this earth, I can't come back down too -CK

[@michaellaurence9966]

What did South Africa expect. This is not about blackmail. Every country in the world has these types of policies. You choose your friends and you pay the consequences. Man up and take the consequences for the decisions you make. Maybe your Russian, Chinese, Iranian and Palestinian friends will come to your aid

[@thelammas8283]

Surprise, surprise!

[@goodbarbenie5477]

It's about time...U cannot hunt with hounds, and inturn run with the hares...This government just doesn't know how to do business... Irrespective of anything U've gotta to built "Trust" in any Relationship especially in a big business relationship... As "Trust" is paramount in cementing trust. But unfortunately in South Africa the leaders of this country love to a double think, whereby they agree on principle to things and behind closed doors, they do not carry out those agreements in practice... All Trust Integrity and Honour goes right out of the window... Therefore if the government could have been trusted in the past 30years we wouldn't be in the mess we are today...U can fool some people some of the time, but can't fool everyone all the time...Don't forget South Africa is not a self-contained entity...Therefore If U not disciplined in your affairs then nothing can help U...😮

[@robertmclaggan4021]

Why does the US punish from the outside instead of resolving issues from the inside?

[@okuhtttf]

They are much more important than you think. US have always had their internal issues but their stance as the most powerful trading partner and judge have been so for the past 100 years and will stay so. We really messed things up this time

[@se7ensavage707]

Russia just launched a company in South Africa, so there's that

[@waynethorpe1341]

Stay Strong

[@dypolesolutions3970]

Sanctions kkkkkk

[@CJ-xg6pf]

Again??

[@Code_Machine]

You think we deal a lot with countries you don't like now? Wait til you do something stupid like reduce trade with us and see how much more we do business with them

[@giuseppepennisi8699]

The us must go.

[@suzygirl1843]

Gross

[@tomsriver2838]

Don't talk to him like that. Your man is handsome...I think.

[@ObolexLetto]

Domestic Product

[@AndreAdi-ie2db]

In short "abandon palestine"

[@martinbisschoff988]

Hypocrites. A case of "do as we say....NOT as we do." Must be a real bastard. Being known as the MOST powerful country in the world.....whilst being "OWNED.'

[@okuhtttf]

Owned by who? They own everyone and everything😂

[@mudgie3445]

All these clueless people calling for us to cut ties with the USA!! 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@briandegoede4483]

ja baas

[@AdminOne-hj4dt]

The result of BRICS

[@zuroneuro4665]

Yes ! Exactly.

[@okuhtttf]

Nope we chased away the Israeli ambassador and their officials which is a big no no in any politics or diplomacy. We were the first to draw a line in the sand and the USA only retaliated by actually punishing us

[@aar8808]

Because of Palestine. Blackmail.

[@okuhtttf]

Not blackmail, just politics something that we don’t know a thing about

[@icno123]

Mohammed bin Salman (current crown prince of Saudi Arabia) told The Washington Post in April 2017 that without America's cultural influence on Saudi Arabia, "we would have ended up like North Korea."

[@CelinTonny]

What culture do they have?Mass shooters and racism?

[@K-xk8od]

Why didn't we just stay neutral about overseas conflicts that had nothing to do with us? Our politicians could just voice their views without the country having an official stance on international issues.

[@terryvarta9306]

This is bully tactics, how bout India being friendly with Russia yet its business as usual

[@okuhtttf]

They didn’t force Israel’s diplomats out of their country like we did😅 You don’t mess with the Israeli’s as they have have a soft spot for the Americans

[@starspark9471]

God told Abraham that He would bless those who bless Israel and curse those who curse Israel. Many will tell you that this promise is to Abraham alone. But go and read Balaam's prophecy over the nation of Israel in Numbers 24:9 - it's in the third prophecy which he gave through being empowered by the Holy Spirit. He spoke it over the nation. And Abraham had been dead a long time already. Balaam wasn't even a Jew. He was a foreigner and was brought in by the local king to curse Israel but all Balaam could do was bless it instead. The same blessings and cursings exist for any nation that stands against Israel and those are in Isaiah when Abraham had already been dead for a long time. Isaiah 60:12 "For the nation that will not serve you (Israel) shall perish, and those nations will be utterly ruined". The context of 'serve' in that verse is to repair Jerusalem's walls, provide assistance and commerce (wealth). It is also our government's willingness to hand its people, land and resources over to communist nations like China and Russia. Wake up, South Africa!!!

[@brooklynbest123]

We dont need south african business or friendship, quit waving it infront of our faces like we need it. SA needs the US more than we need them... but go run to russia and putin and see how far that gets you.

[@Qotha]

No we both need each other. How many US companies in South Africa? Doesn't their PRESENCE in South Africa not benefit the US?

[@icno123]

@@Qotha Mohammed bin Salman (current crown prince of Saudi Arabia) told The Washington Post in April 2017 that without America's cultural influence on Saudi Arabia, "we would have ended up like North Korea."

[@icno123]

@@Qotha I mean bro you have US investment banks and normal banks who have more assets than the entire economy of South Africa so please relax yourselves...

[@Qotha]

@@icno123 South Africans are not Saudis, we want no foreign influence. We only want partnerships that are based on mutual respect. We don't need partners who suffer from big brother syndrome.

[@icno123]

@@Qotha You already have foreign influence remember, SA was also colonized just Saudi but the difference is the Saudis don't accept mediocre people unlike SA that have people like yourself...

[@se7en-f2n]

The ANC are the soul entity responsible for this

[@riethaaadjiet3214]

Bet it's only Jewish business

[@HoBBLeCooKiE]

Chinese channel

[@veritecarry7142]

Well, if you take Israel to court and snub other allies what do you expect? Mxm

[@marelafragrances7847]

I think its different Trump created a advantageous ground for american business to operate in, thats what South Africa needs to do revise it# policies to attract more business instead of benefiting from bee because bee doesn't support the masses but a minority few

[@kevinedwards7079]

And they did so with open defiance

[@zaheerbayat5834]

What a joke, Uganda taken off becuase of Human rights abuses? But Israel stays becuase the it can “abuse the right human” according to their definition. This is bullying tactics 😢 for standing for the freedom of a people that have been subjected to torture. A man can never change his skin colour, you can never ask a South African to condone Apartheid or humans rights abuses. Thats a South African thing. 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦

[@ObakengKontle]

If 🇺🇸 it doesn't want to work with South Africa we don't care they can come and take their McDonald's and KFC we have our 🐔 Chicken Licken and Tshisanyama😊

[@christopherbuckley619]

The ANC has messed up South Africa very badly. I am not surprised USA is calling for the assessment of diplomatic ties. I hope our new GNU can fix the problems. ANC must get out of politics as they do not have a clue how to run a country and to have good international relations