Southeast Asia's Booming Vaping Industry: Should We Be Worried? | Undercover Asia

Initially conceived as a way for smokers to kick the habit, vaping has since undergone a remarkable evolution in Southeast Asia. It is now a thriving cultural phenomenon, with trendy vape cafes, massive trade shows, competitive tournaments, and a burgeoning online and offline community.
But amidst the glitz and glamour lies great controversy. Even as vaping continues to be promoted as the solution to the global tobacco crisis, public health experts warn that vaping could create a new health crisis of its own, especially with high levels of underage use.
Undercover Asia investigates: Why has vaping gained such popularity among youths? How effective is it as a smoking cessation aid? What aren’t vape companies telling us? And could vaping act as a gateway drug into even more dangerous substance abuse?
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[@percycat213]

As a former smoker who quit after 10 years of smoking, i can never judge those who can't quit because i know it is a very hard addiction to get rid of, and it often is more psychological than physical addiction. The only thing that made me quit cold turkey was wanting to start a family.

[@Louie.Oxford]

good cat

[@TpDgreat]

my dad has the same reason as yours, he just stop smoking,,no limiting how much cigarettes per day,,just decided to stop right away, for some it can be difficult for the lack of very important reason but sometimes if u decide to stop just stop,,im proud of my dad

[@fishingdad88]

That's right mental addiction is real. Physical addiction is not

[@smirk5630]

I stopped because of what I felt inside my body that I could no longer take, especially that last day of pain. 7 months now and still afraid of smoking.

[@TpDgreat]

@@smirk5630 cant imagine the pain,,but im glad you stopped, did u already visit a doctor?

[@angietunstall2555]

I used vaping to get off cigarettes. Once I could see the amount of money I was saving, that proved a great incentive to stop inhaling altogether. I could see the cost of vapes increasing the more popular they became. Having been caught in one expensive addiction, I was not prepared to get on another. I've been stopped for over 3 years now. 😊

[@jw2473]

Omg same. I dont smoke or vape anymore. Both are expensive!

[@ZenZone_Soundscapes]

How hard was it to quit? Congrats on quitting!

[@lillkloniis]

Good job :)

[@fansizhe9997]

Proud of you guys who are able to quit smoking!!👍👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🙏🙏🙏😍😍

[@zZiL341yRj736]

I stop smoking cigarettes after I found crack, it's way better now.

[@littleswansplaygrownd6817]

vaping's golden rues: -if you smoke, start to vape and quit both eventually -if you don't smoke, don't vape. -if you're underage. don't do any of them

[@brendan9853]

Golden rules -Never vape -Never smoke simple.

[@marleypsear]

@@brendan9853 those are good rules but once someone has got hooked you cant 'unvape' or 'unsmoke' ???

[@zyzkk]

@@marleypsear The point is you’d never feel addiction or shitty feelings from quitting, if you had never done them in the first place. Nicotine is a lifeless object with no power. Vapes are lifeless objects with no power. Until a human picks it up and vapes it. Everyone can overcome it I believe humans have the strength to do anything they put their minds to.

[@earh0xable]

I was a heavy smoker for almost 35 years, and tried quitting many times. I was VERY skeptical about e-cigarettes when they first appeared, but studied impartial government and university studies as they emerged. Many years later I finally tried the switch to vaping after being satisfied with study results that while not HARMLESS, they are definitely less harmful, and I have been cigarette free for 3+ years now. While it may be anecdotal, I feel so much better now, I’m no longer short of breath, I sleep and eat better. I started at 12mg nic, now down to 3mg, and will stop totally eventually. I can absolutely say that without vapes I would still be smoking. All that said, it is something that needs to be regulated, as we’ve seen time and again how well prohibition works with any substance.

[@yeezywesty3651]

I'm down to 3mg too. ten years of smoking...I was able to start exercising again only days after quitting cigarettes, something I couldn't do for ten years...i couldn't breathe.. so thankful for rebuildable vapes.

[@octavian-codrut.popescu]

I vape since 2011, so 13 years now. But I only buy e-liquids made in Europe (mostly Germany or Switzerland) and keep the nicotine down to 3 mg or less. Banning them would be a stupid thing

[@-BEASTOR-]

Same, i Smoke a e-sig for more then 10 years now and are now on 0mg nicotine. I can leave it for more then 6 hours and not even thinking about it. SO yea it sure helps to stop. Also my heart problems are gone. had some serieus heart problems when i smoked regular sigaret. People just need to stop the overly use of the e-sig, like exhale massive clouds. like why? just smoke normal lol. Also, burn on a normal temperature like 30/40 watts

[@charliewecker]

Just go one week. You'll be completely chemically free of nicotine. I found it took me about 3 months to stop having my psychological cravings. Had to change some morning and meal rituals. I replaced smoking with drinking puer tea. I found in the beginning I felt like I had a hole I couldn't fill. So I was eating more sweets. Slowly I realized what I was doing and after switching to tea I have absolutely no desire to smoke or vape. It's been almost two years now. I did find that I now look down on smokers and capers. I don't know what that's all about. Some kind of strange prejudice that I developed. Even after acknowledging it I still can't help but be grossed out by nicotine addicts. Particularly smokers. I can't explain it, but it's where I'm currently at. Anyway, I'm telling you. If you can suffer through just one week. Then just keep challenging yourself to go one more day. Eventually you'll be free. You'll also have way more money in your pocket at the end of the year.

[@srums7111]

How did you get through work days? Thats my toughest one right now as that smoke break gets me through the day @@charliewecker

[@A.CMc1997]

Vaping went from helping smokers quit nicotine, to introducing the youth to nicotine at a drop of a hat. This is why it should have been regulated just like cigarettes. We failed as a society to forsee it. 🤷🤦

[@lymphy12]

You failed raising your kids and now you blame regulations for your shortcomings.

[@markstuart1053]

More like the gov thought that it is something they couldn't impose tax on

[@themusicgaragetmg2330]

nah... That is the propaganda they sold to the sheep... Baaaa...

[@daywzy]

when profits are part of the equation, politics will do whatever it can to not restrict it.

[@billyjoshchew7575]

Vape contains high Nicotine

[@minervaville]

I'm a high school student and almost half of the students in my department vapes. Some even proudly says they (can) vape. Even my own family members joined in to this addiction. It has become a trend here almost to the point some students bring their vapes to school. A classmate of mine was caught but they weren't even scolded fairly. I've always had an irk for vaping/smoking because my father passed away from it, he caught stage 4 cancer with it. He was 13 when he started smoking, and caught an illness in his early 50's. I don't judge anyone smoking or vaping, but for sake of all, please look after your mental and physical health at all times. Have a good day everyone.

[@pblx1321]

real

[@nivrrtakr2891]

Business 😎

[@ebobota]

Both of my grandfathers died of lung disease, probably caused by their addiction to cigarettes :( That's why I'm also against vaping and cigarettes, my friends are getting into vaping now, and some of them are pretty addicted already

[@minervaville]

@@ebobota My condolences. Almost all my friends as well vapes, I was never cool with it but I didn't want to burden them any further.

[@hello-ub5vo]

your dad didn't die from vaping because vaping doesn't cause cancer lmfao

[@dameneko]

I smoked from age 12 through my early 30s. Everyone in my father's family smoked and I was the youngest. Vaping helped me quit, and yes, I loved the flavors. I used to be a clove (kretek) smoker and a flavored tobacco smoker. But after vaping for a couple years, I could feel it was doing something to my lungs that I didn't like. So, during the pandemic, I quit vaping. I still miss the social aspects of it and doing tricks with my vape. I totally get it. But I love the way my lungs feel now and I think quitting all nicotine products was the right decision for my long-term health. I also like no longer having to budget for it!

[@StickyKeys187]

I remember seeing a prepubescent child from Indonesia chain smoking 3 or four cigs at a time 😂

[@SaraMorgan-ym6ue]

well smoking vaping it your body do with it what you like as your the one who has to live with the consequences🤣🤣🤣

[@arfriedman4577]

Glad you quit that crap.

[@mercurialdanny]

how hard was that first week or two when you finally quit?

[@marsileaputri1485]

As a student, I was very sad because my friends used to be non-smokers and never touched cigarettes. They become vape addicts and no matter how hard I tell them, it could be even more dangerous, especially since it's a new product. I am so grateful to have found this video and I will share it with them even though they will walk away and hate me even more because I am so old fashioned I don't hate smokers or vape I just don't want my loved ones to die in torment, I know this product can give peace of mind forgetting problems and stress, but it's only temporary and something instant sometimes we have to pay for. Again I'm not saying that I won't be tempted by the offer, especially since the ad is very promising. and yes i would rather save my money for other things like my childhood dream of traveling the world small town in indonesia, monday 7 august

[@hardtobeat84]

'Could be more dangerous' Except it isnt. There is no tar in vaping unline smoking, which is far worse. Theres is still no link to cancer with regards to vaping. Its not healthy and i dont vape. But look at the science

[@NVM3]

Benar, faktor ekonomi lebih membuat sadar drpd faktor kesehatan. 😅

[@homelessrobot]

anything 'could be' more dangerous, even well known things. Because we don't know everything. However, its very unlikely that vaping is more harmful than cigarettes given that we know quite a bit about what is dangerous about cigarettes, and most of it isn't in e-liquid. It's called harm reduction. If you have had no success quiting, and no confidence that you can, then nicotine replacements like e-cigarettes, patches, gum, etc are almost certainly way less harmful than smoking cigarettes. You can want all you want, but people who want to get away from cigarettes need a method that actually works. Even if it isn't 100% harmless.

[@basedcheese1]

@@homelessrobot I think it is the fact that while vapes are less harmful in a way, they are still as addicting as the cigarette. So people cope with their addiction with the fact that it is not as bad.

[@homelessrobot]

@@basedcheese1 I do not think that is observably true either. They are addictive for sure. but 'just as addictive' is again overstating an unknown.

[@e-shark]

Of course it's a problem when Singapore can't profit off the taxes. But smoking, oh let's that continue.

[@thespacejedi]

Obviously vape can be taxed, anything can be taxed lmao.

[@thespacejedi]

The documentary also mentions many other countries, a lil sus that you singled us out 😂

[@93hothead]

​@@thespacejedithis is how people start fires in society blaming everything on the govt

[@shawndj1369]

Brehh,they can impose tax on anything,even yr mom if they wanted to..too much vaping has messed yr head broski

[@noproblematallmate]

People cant stop smoking because they are already addicted. We are not going to allow another addiction to destroy our children.

[@wizny70]

As a 19 year old Malaysian, i feel like 50% of Male students vape. The funny thing is some even start smoking after school.. It's ironic how vaping lead them to cigarettes instead of being an alternative 😭

[@wizny70]

And the school shown in this vid JUST happened to be the school I went to.. I'm not even making this up😅 and I know the vape shop they went undercover too (it's in Maluri, Cheras in case you're wondering)

[@PissMenn]

Do they even allowed to buy cigarettes under the legal age in Malaysia? I know if it's in Indonesia those students could just buy it in local warungs 😂

[@cream2831]

@@PissMenn even underage kids sell them over here bro. Quite sad honestly

[@peanutbutter6165]

@@PissMenn everywhere, people at my school just pay off the people at conveniece stores

[@deleteme3090]

They sell to smoker like mini drug dealer. I remember during my school year it was a money making opportunity.

[@DanielLy1200]

I smoked in college at the age of 20 and it has followed me my entire life. I quit after college for 15 years, then went through depression and picked it up again in my 40's. I just recently quit vaping about a month ago and I feel wonderful about the decision.

[@westcoastkidd17]

I smoked for about 10 years and began vaping as an alternative to cigarettes. It helped, but I went back to cigarettes for about half a year because I lost my vape device and didn't want to spend money buying another. Then finally in the beginning of 2021 I quit cold turkey because of how out of shape I felt jogging around the block. Quitting is freaking hard because of the psychological misery of a craving. But if you can successfully bypass those cravings and force your brain to be okay with life without nicotine/cigarettes, you can definitely quit for the better and truly be a person that just doesn't smoke anymore.

[@MeDiA_Aid_Them]

You know what's funny.... Vaping is 5 times worst than the cigarettes.

[@glowingone1774]

You know whats funny, KZbin commentators pulling stats out of their ass without sourcing the facts.@@MeDiA_Aid_Them

[@Rob-lq2ny]

No country will ban tobacco products due to high tax imposed for nation revenue.

[@Str4t0sPh3rE]

Don't forget about votes. With such a large market, you're looking at hundreds of thousands of votes lost if you're the one trying to take away the thing they're addicted to.

[@dinomite3794]

@@yusufbest4475 they literally tried banning alcohol before. 1920s Prohibition in the US. Initially imposed with the intention of improving the health of US citizens, inadvertently resulted in the increase of unsafe homemade alcoholic drinks and more activity in the black market.

[@philiplai9407]

Not only we ban it in singapore, it’s illegal to vape here.

[@addykhoo542]

@@philiplai9407 smoking is still fine right?

[@0xBasedChang]

this is exactly the reason governments hate vaping because they dont get tax for liquid nicotine

[@aoi_18]

Reading the comments here, I'm seeing a lot of people say they quit smoking through conscious effort. So, like any other addiction, the key step to weaning people off smoking or vaping is to build that conscious effort within that person to quit (for any personal reason, be it their own health, for family...etc).

[@sp3949]

All those who are saying they quit smoking could also be occasional smokers. They might’ve quit smoking on a regular basis.

[@roychui6694]

Vaping is a lousy way to quit smoking. I did it in 2014 and ended up smoking even more cigarettes. Quitted cold turkey in 2017 and now, just the smell of cigarettes turns me off. And I haven't vapped since 2014. Bad habits. Both of them.

[@haruyanto8085]

Just dont do it

[@ArtSawce]

the concious effort is usually fear when they are told by the doctor, this is like 90% of the cases.

[@spongebob8358]

VAPING IS FREQUENTLY DOING, SPECIALLY YOUNG PEOPLE. BEFORE YOU DO THIS, THINK ABOUT IT, IF IT IS BAD FOR ME? IF IT IS GOOD FOR ME? IF YOU CAN'T KNOW YOUR LIMITS, LOOK YOURSELF AT THE MIRROR IN A COUPLE OF MINUTES.

[@BrownGeorge-pw2xo]

I could remember several years ago I was addicted to cigarettes. Also suffered severe depression and mental disorder. Not until my mom recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 8 years totally clean. Never thought I would be saying this about mushrooms.

[@JanetRichardson-mq5es]

Amen God bless people. Save your health save your mind. Life is better without heroin, cocaine,alcohol and cigarettes.And you have more money in your pocket. God bless everyone who has rejected the devils intentions to be addicted to alcohol and cigarettes etc which can cause so much damage to health.

[@Bastianbishops]

Can you help with the reliable source I would really appreciate it. Many people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. Very hard to get a reliable source here in Germany. Really need!

[@DonnHowes]

Hey! Yes very sure of Dr.benshrooms. a single dose of shrooms saved me from Alcohol addiction. 6 years clean. no cravings. this doesn't sound weird to me in any way shape or form.

[@Edennnn926]

I'm really happy for you that your mom decided to help you...I hear about alot of family members or so called friends shutting an addict out of their life, which since most addicts do it to mask emotions to me is the worse thing someone can do to an addict.

[@rosemary8305]

How do I reach out to him? Is he on insta

[@mendesenzo6943]

Psychedelics are just an exceptional mental health breakthrough. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against depression and anxiety. Saved my life

[@FelipeHidalgo-sd7nu]

To be honest, mushrooms are one of the most amazing things on the planet and it is natural, they serve in many ways not only for mental related issues.

[@MichaelFerguson-tx8de]

Does anyone know any good source to get them? I put so much on my plate and it definitely affects my stress and anxiety levels, would love to try them

[@mendesenzo6943]

Yes, Sporeville

[@weberkarl6428]

Tripping is not bad but find a good mycologist who will inform you of the right things you need to know

[@ElianaBravo-hr3qk]

Sporeville is pretty commendable and a very intelligent mycologist I'm glad to be part of his community

[@yunyung]

I used to be very narrow minded. "Well they've started it, can't they just quit?" But this mindset changed when I talked to my closest cousin about why they smoked cigarettes and they told me it's because smoking makes you feel warm. They were diagnosed with depression during that time and wanting to feel like someone is constantly there to hug you is understandable. They eventually stopped smoking and it took a lot of courage and effort. It isn't an overnight thing. In fact, they jumped from cigarettes to vaping but tried stopping the moment they learnt how equally as bad vaping is for their health. So telling these people to just stop or ban vaping and cigarettes will not help. What could help is to keep pushing the long term health effects to these people and hope they take the step to stop either activities

[@yuy2375]

yea i think u mentioned sth usually overlooked. it isnt overnight. u don start overnight, and so u don stop overnight. i got a smoker fren who said this, "this(cig) isnt drug. u can smoke the whole packet today, tmr u don like u can quit. it's when we keep smoking then it becomes a habit/addiction."

[@gvsd3]

​@@yuy2375 Well said brother, as an active smoker myself I can relate

[@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked]

:3 :3 It's funny how they're worried about vaping, but they probably drink alcohol, probably cannot leave the house without makeup on to please people with their so-called beauty (if they're female), probably take pills regularly because they have a bad diet and are too lazy to exercise, and probably they sit too much too. You gotta love people. Society needs a huge makeover (pun not intended haha). Vaping is better than smoking cigarettes, 98% safer, according to UK scientific studies. Vaping dries you out, and has some negative consequences, sure, and I used to vape, but vaping is far safer than eating meat (being a non-vegan), being lazy, being fat, makeup, pills on the regular, etc. XD

[@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked]

:3 :3 I didn't even watch the video. I just pasted my comment, and submitted it 5 times in the comment section. Now I'm pasting this one around too. Haha. Plus, I gave likes. Plenty of propaganda from these companies indeed, as one person noted. Nicotine does increase testosterone shortly, cigars have been known to relax the heart (2 cigars a day barely has any risk of cancer, and plenty heart doctors recommend them I've heard), and it can some other health benefits. Nicotine unfortunately restricts your blood, short duration and sometimes cravings (for me, I never had cigarettes, and vaping was easy to stop for hours and days at a time), and some other negatives. Alcohol (alKILLhol) is still one of the very worst drugs. It's involved in over 50% of rape cases and automobile accidents, involved in a lot of other violence, causes cancer, shrinks the brain, and physical dependency can get so bad that going cold turkey has killed some people before. It's literally labelled a poison now in science. It mimics water so well that it enters cells and destroys them. Richard Nixon's scientific team even admitted during his presidency that weed is much safer than weed. They also admitted a lot of the drug war is just based on purposely dividing people, especially by ethnicity, especially against Blacks and Mexicans. It is known to have over 200 health issues from all it gets involved in. It wastes a ton of money. A lot of shady people use it. It makes problems worse. Even one serving is bad, and the 2 drinks a week maximum rule mostly isn't followed, as most people have much more than that a week. Lol... 💀💀💀 Andrew Huberman, viral neuroscientist podcaster.

[@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked]

:3 My drug of choice these days is coffee. It gives a sorta high, is healthy in moderation, helps exercise and work production, decreases risk of depression and suicide, tastes great, many different types, fights off dementia (being vegan fights it off more), women get horny from it (lol), one of the limited things in life that actually helps you produce more dopamine intake (your focus and drive, which many people have dopamine overload in today's electronic society, as the great Andrew Huberman says), etc. I used to have 10 or so servings at a time just fine. One cup is good for me. I don't even need it for energy, as a vegan, as someone who exercises, proper sleep, and staying hydrated (most Americans don't do this, about 75% don't, according to studies, and a 1-2% dehydration level can cause a bunch of tiredness, amongst other things). I'll drink multiple cups though when I'm not hurting on money. Also, as the great Andrew Huberman neuroscientist podcaster says, to wait at least an hour after waking to have coffee so that your cortisol isn't thrown out of balance so that you don't crash later, as he learned later in life. Huge difference! Unless of course you want the energy spike for an exercise, but it's just best to wait. Lol

[@lyns.4884]

Growing up with both parents who is smoking I witness how hard for them to quit. Looking back they both consumed 2 packets a day. And everytime I ask my father to stop he is like "I WILL STOP IF THE COMPANY GO BANKRUPT🤣". But when they sent us (me and my sister) to University that was the time that they change. Addiction is hard to get rid of, but with dedication and motivation it will help you to quit that addiction. Especially if you know that it will help not only you but for your loved ones too.

[@ariewijaya1679]

but did you addicted to porn 😂

[@ElSantoLuchador]

We should be happy. Southeast Asian men used to have a 70% smoking rate, and women had a 35% smoking rate. Both have halved since 2010. If that's because they all substituted nicotine delivery devices that's still not bad news. (Source: WHO)

[@daydreamingyou]

Thank you, a very good documentation.

[@scetchport]

Excellent report, i had no idea of the depth of this industry. I'm late 60's and gave up smoking about 20 years ago. I let myself have a couple of cigs a day and weaned off slowly over around 6 months. I allowed myself to have a pack in a drawer in case i had to have one, that happened but rarely. It was like knowing i wasnt forced but my own will to ease off and give up.

[@allstones1462]

As a son of an ex-smoker, I greatly respect the choice you have made in your life. Thank you for quitting smoking. It is indeed an incredible feat.

[@NorthernMouse52]

Congratulations on quitting smoking 👍

[@jaylu7021]

Moderation in all things

[@HerculesKumar88]

Last sentence is the harsh reality and everyone should do that... Instead of forcing yourself to quite.. Because if you have been forced do to something the feeling never lasts and when tensed again you want a smoke. I believe your environment contributes alot while quitting. Smoked weed for 3 years during covid.... Then its like I smoke when I want.. Maybe after months... Maybe weeks... But have not been smoking for past 7 months... But soon I will.. 😂

[@NazriB]

Lies again? Shame On America UFC WWE88

[@nicoinformatics]

What people keep failing to mention is that all these countries that banned vaping and all these "vaping is bad" propaganda are almost always sponsored or lobbied by the big tobacco industries in each particular country, from Singapore to Japan. Notice that vape products are banned in these countries, but not the much more harmful cigarette products. What we should be worried about is not the vaping industry, but the cigarette industry. They're much larger, have much more money to throw away towards lobbying, marketing and propaganda.

[@krollpeter]

Singapore's earnings from tobacco tax is not relevant for the budget, unlike for some other countries. I once looked into it, but I won't dig out these figures again. The government's reasoning is not vaping is harmful or anything like that, or even lesser, they would intend to protect smokers. Their reasoning is entirely based on the intention to block one more avenue to drug addiction. Singapore does not produce cigarettes. China is the biggest producer. I do understand Singapore's policy, albeit I still do not agree with it. I personally stopped a 40 years long smoking habit with the help of a vaping device, and therefore I know how effective it can be.

[@GearMSZeroHD]

Breathe Air!!!!!! U don't need a vape, have u seen anyone with a vape? U just fcking sat at the room be like.... Ouu my vape done charging.... Load the vape up.... And suck it

[@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked]

^_^ :3 It's funny how they're worried about vaping, but they probably drink alcohol, probably cannot leave the house without makeup on to please people with their so-called beauty (if they're female), probably take pills regularly because they have a bad diet and are too lazy to exercise, and probably they sit too much too. You gotta love people. Society needs a huge makeover (pun not intended haha). Vaping is better than smoking cigarettes, 98% safer, according to UK scientific studies. Vaping dries you out, and has some negative consequences, sure, and I used to vape, but vaping is far safer than eating meat (being a non-vegan), being lazy, being fat, makeup, pills on the regular, etc. XD

[@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked]

:D :3 I didn't even watch the video. I just pasted my comment, and submitted it 5 times in the comment section. Now I'm pasting this one around too. Haha. Plus, I gave likes. Plenty of propaganda from these companies indeed, as one person noted. Nicotine does increase testosterone shortly, cigars have been known to relax the heart (2 cigars a day barely has any risk of cancer, and plenty heart doctors recommend them I've heard), and it can some other health benefits. Nicotine unfortunately restricts your blood, short duration and sometimes cravings (for me, I never had cigarettes, and vaping was easy to stop for hours and days at a time), and some other negatives. Alcohol (alKILLhol) is still one of the very worst drugs. It's involved in over 50% of rape cases and automobile accidents, involved in a lot of other violence, causes cancer, shrinks the brain, and physical dependency can get so bad that going cold turkey has killed some people before. It's literally labelled a poison now in science. It mimics water so well that it enters cells and destroys them. Richard Nixon's scientific team even admitted during his presidency that weed is much safer than weed. They also admitted a lot of the drug war is just based on purposely dividing people, especially by ethnicity, especially against Blacks and Mexicans. It is known to have over 200 health issues from all it gets involved in. It wastes a ton of money. A lot of shady people use it. It makes problems worse. Even one serving is bad, and the 2 drinks a week maximum rule mostly isn't followed, as most people have much more than that a week. Lol... 💀💀💀 Andrew Huberman, viral neuroscientist podcaster.

[@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked]

😮My drug of choice these days is coffee. It gives a sorta high, is healthy in moderation, helps exercise and work production, decreases risk of depression and suicide, tastes great, many different types, fights off dementia (being vegan fights it off more), women get horny from it (lol), one of the limited things in life that actually helps you produce more dopamine intake (your focus and drive, which many people have dopamine overload in today's electronic society, as the great Andrew Huberman says), etc. I used to have 10 or so servings at a time just fine. One cup is good for me. I don't even need it for energy, as a vegan, as someone who exercises, proper sleep, and staying hydrated (most Americans don't do this, about 75% don't, according to studies, and a 1-2% dehydration level can cause a bunch of tiredness, amongst other things). I'll drink multiple cups though when I'm not hurting on money. Also, as the great Andrew Huberman neuroscientist podcaster says, to wait at least an hour after waking to have coffee so that your cortisol isn't thrown out of balance so that you don't crash later, as he learned later in life. Huge difference! Unless of course you want the energy spike for an exercise, but it's just best to wait. Lol

[@mejrengaming9022]

Myself, I've been a longtime smoker ever since I was 16-17 and I've been smoking until the age of 29. I've switched to vaping since then for a less harmful alternative. Any smoker knows the hardest part of quitting isn't the nicotine addiction, its the habit you build over the years. Having a smoke after a meal, having a smoke with your coffee etc., this builds habits that just makes it harder to let go. Vaping has drastically made things better for me personally, my breathing is better, I don't cough and I don't experience shortness of breath during any activity. On the other hand, vaping definitely needed more and better regulating with how widespread it has become. Not to mention the amount of fake vaping products on the market that could potentially have extremely harmful substances in their e-liquids. I have friends who have never been smokers pick up vaping and to me its mind boggling. If you're a smoker trying to find a lesser evil I understand but if you've never been trapped in the cage of conventional smoking to begin with you should never consider vaping.

[@MetalSniper63]

Why is your comment buried under the rest of missinformation... This is exactly what happens, A lot of FAKE devices get to your hands. I've been vaping for 3 years now, after smoking for more than 12, and I can tell you something: DO NOT USE Disposable devices. Those are the ones that are tampered with.

[@thevortexofdoom8778]

Same here, I was smoking for over 25 years...walked into a vape shop 3 months ago and I only smoke cigs when I have a few drinks which is maybe a couple times a month. I feel way better, and only wish I had done it sooner.

[@JasonChowTV]

loser

[@mrnotfound1333]

good luck quitting

[@riansaputra8673]

thanks for this comprehensive documentary

[@aimanmohammad7749]

Yes we should be worried. My younger brother, an active student who played sports and such but vape with high levels just have his lungs punctured because his right side lungs was shrinking the it take him about 24 days after 3 surgery to make it better. After a month the lung was not in its original size. For those who watch and read this but vaping or smoking. Please stop. It’s useless.

[@AJ91244756]

@Travel Explorer pics or it didn’t happen🤓

[@tankman20064]

It never happen😂😂😂😂😂

[@81antiloop]

Mixing up vape with COVID ? That's a long stretch 😂

[@patrickjeow]

You are the captain of your own life. You bore the fruit that you sowed. Nobody can help you if you lung collapse.

[@alexiszurex]

sorry to say bos, ur argument is OBSOLETE !!!!

[@mumumaxima]

I was a smoker ten years ago. What made me stop smoking was one huge moment when I knew part of my lungs were dysfunctional. I just stopped, moved to another city, and changed my old habit to helpful, something better like exercise and yoga. My health improved after that. I never come back since. Even when the vaping phenomenon came, I never wanted to try it.

[@saturationstation1446]

congratulations for being part of the 1% of the human species who can just move whenever they please... congratulations on feeling superior and endorsing the enslavement and perpetual torture of 99% of the human species. please find a different planet to torture.

[@AJ-jq3hm]

Did the lung dysfunction reverse, are they healthy now?

[@bassyey]

@@AJ-jq3hm There's an age where your lungs can recover! Our body is amazing but don't abuse it.

[@J.J.J.J.J.J.J]

Well done on stopping. And continuing to promote others to make the same healthy choice you did.

[@anidiotmakesthings]

@@AJ-jq3hmHe has no lungs now. It was because of just one tobacco cigarette.

[@11lvr11]

For me vape was much worse than cigarettes. I didn't really feel bad after smoking cigarettes (though i acknowledge the long term risks of it),only a bit faster heart rate, but after i had been vaping for one day i started feeling heaviness in my lungs and it was hard to breathe, like it was full of liquid. Im quitting cigarettes too now by using old school method, caramels😂(sugar free in my case). Been smoke free for a few weeks already.

[@Barrosy]

I don't smoke myself, never even thought about it (well I did but I considered benefits vs drawbacks). Smoke always smelled bad to me but when I saw other people using this small device the size and look of a modern wallet, I started to wonder. "Are these things actually a healthy way of recreation?" - this video shows exactly it's not that. Thanks for making this documentary.

[@spongebob8358]

VAPES, CIGARETTES, ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES/DRINKS, AND DRUGS, ARE LEGALIZED, BUT NO HEALTH BENEFITS. MEANWHILE, THE HERBS LIKE CANNABIS, AND MARIJUANA IN THE PHILIPPINES IS STILL ILLEGALIZED, BUT WITH HEALTH BENEFITS. I'M REALLY SAD FOR THIS SOCIETY RIGHT NOW. FACE THE REALITY, AND PRAY FOR YOUR SELF, AND YOUR SOUL TO START SOMETHING NEW.

[@Dhruv-wv9ck]

Vapes are 95% safer than cigarettes and not carcinogenic

[@hiyg]

It's just annoying that in my country a lot of people have no consideration of people around them. They just vape everywhere. Public vehicles, while walking on streets with a lot of people etc.

[@NotCroutons]

Smokers also do this in my country. They don't care if their smoke is going directly into the faces of hundreds of people around them in a busy area.

[@quietday9991]

Precisely! It’s become an unhealthy habit/culture around here. It goes to show the lack of awareness and ignorance in this country

[@rjjrjehehew]

Needs to slap the crap out of their hands and faces

[@joebobathon7644]

you must be 12 years old

[@What.s_the_Truth]

I have seen people do it in the library, the beach... it smells gross to me, even with all the artificial fruity smell.

[@kiyotan1048]

funny thing is, i'm so close to being addicted to vaping. but after hitting one every minute to practice tricks, and then getting nic sick that made me so nauseous that every single movement made me want to vomit, the thought of vaping itself is enough to not make me reach out to my dispo 😭😭

[@suddenlygay7199]

My Greek life days got me into vaping and I used it as a coping mechanism when I was stressed from school and meeting deadlines. Eventually, I started vaping in the middle of the day when I was bored. The vape I bought got more concentrated and now I cannot go a day without wanting to vape. Mind you, I rarely smoked before I picked up vaping.

[@Gods-silliest-Goose23]

My dad use to be a former smoker and started to smoke in the military. It took him years of cigarettes and nicotine gum to quit. Once he quit he started to get into stocks and he bought a stock with a small company Juul. I immediately knew what it was because I was in school learning about it from kids so I told him it’s a nicotine company for a younger audience and he immediately sold his stock. He would’ve made hundreds of thousands on his stock but he didn’t want to support getting young adults to smoke

[@davidmcgee5375]

I am a silly goose too!

[@SharleneKate]

I am deeply disturbed by this. 7-15 years old vaping? That is insane. God knows what they put in those e-liquids. And the lack of filtering, kids don’t get ID’d at all, how fast you can transact thru Telegram, and the vape influencers who only care about money. This is such a sick industry, and it’ll only get bigger if nobody steps up and does something.

[@romantrukhin5298]

Theres nothing in e-liquids besides nicotine, Pg, Vg and flavorings. And its illegal to sell any of vaping products to the minors

[@BB-ed4om]

What do you think they’re putting in there? 😂😂😂

[@vommir.]

You can always lab test e-liquids. I agree youngster smoking is not looking good but if we look back at history this is not much different from cigarettes. In Canada, people do get ID'd to purchase vapes, depends on the country. If it can be proven that it's less harmful on long term use than cigarettes then I guess it's a step up..

[@adredy]

​@@SoggyMuffin007 agree .. tv,phone,food , music etc 😅

[@themittymak]

i guess cigarettes are the more profitable alternative.. LETS BAN VAPES!

[@jessicahay9305]

Im so grateful for vaping. I was smoking two packs per day and i couldnt even walk around my house without my albuterol inhaler. I kept getting pnumonia, it was awful. I havent had a cigarette in years now and i might use my inhaler 3-4 times per year.

[@1970rsc]

I was a 20+ year smoker who tried everything to quit before vaping finally worked for me. It took me about 2 years to quit vaping but that was easier and healthier than cigarettes. I credit vaping for saving my life.

[@peternguyen3732]

love these docos keep them coming. Raw and straight to the point.

[@sqfath7490]

With heavy marketing like that; big events, competitions with big prizes, exclusive places like cafe for the community, etc; it's not a way to stop smoking anymore, it's just change one addiction and replace it with other addiction. As an ex-heavy smoker, if someone really want to stop smoking I think they should have a clear goal, not only change their cigarettes with vape and hoping they can stop someday while vaping almost every minutes.

[@MsJubjubbird]

I would say vaping has got more people to take up smoking than it has to quit. A sparkly pink bubblegum flavoured vape is clearly not a medicinal quitting product but a way to get kids into tobacco. The plan in Australia is to make them available as prescription only medicine in pharmacies.

[@Supremepikachu]

Tasty fun addiction!

[@love_cook]

Amazing documentary.

[@aliyahazl]

As a Malaysian high school student living in Indonesia, I am so glad to see that this is indeed an issue that needs to be talked about and addressed. I genuinely found it bewildering how normalised vaping is among my peers, both in Indonesia and when I return to Malaysia. Nobody seems to find it a problem at all?!?! I understand the need to use vapes as an alternative to smoking. However, I can't help but think, regarding my student peers, if you had not previously had a smoking or nicotine addiction, why start vaping in the first place? It truly baffles me, though there are probably lots of factors I do not see or understand in my shoes. I'd really love to sympathise and understand because it saddens me to know so many kids around me are putting themselves, mentally and physically, through something potentially harmful in the long run.

[@poqqery8950]

That's how addictions and trends at large start. Many people try cigarettes and vaping for the first time because others around them use these products and it becomes a societal norm, not because they necessarily want to-but for many, once the nicotine hits there's no stopping. One cigarette a day soon becomes ten and there's your nicotine addiction. It doesn't help that teens are known in studies to be more susceptible to nicotine addiction.

[@yuuyuuyuu4237]

Because cigarettes can burn out, you'll know when to stop puffing, and it's up to you to light another one or not. Vapes don't burn out and you'll keep puffing like crazy until you realize you've been doing it for hours, which is worse than having 2 sticks every 3 to 4 hours.

[@kevinnketamine]

I wish my vape produced infinite vapor. Would be a miracle of physics and thermodynamics indeed.

[@satriorama4118]

Once you're addicted you cant stop. I've seen my supervisor smoked 3-4 pack in 1 day. It's crazy.

[@rianelopez4948]

Why would they vape for a long period? It takes 14 puffs to consume a stick of cigarette so i treat my vape thevsame way. 14:puffs after meals and i do my own zerro nic e-juice.

[@killshill5896]

@@rianelopez4948 Why would you vape for long? Maybe cause as a smoker you are addicted to nicotine. 99% of smokers who transition to vapes are not doing 0 nic juice. Once you start vaping, sure the first couple days or weeks, you dont puff the vape too much cause of nicotine OD making you feel sick, but after a while that tolerance goes up so fast you dont even realize it. Next thing you know, its not having a puff after certain things or at certain times but literally its have a puff after doing anything or anytime you are not doing anything you vape to feel productive.

[@ghoul3804]

That's one of the most fking retarded reasoning I've ever heard.

[@BadMrFrosty999]

I vape and I used to smoke a pack a day 8 yrs ago. Switched to vaping because we had our first born. All I can say is if you don't smoke, don't start vaping. Vaping might be less harmful than smoking but it's not completely harmless. I do believe that vaping should never be allowed in minors. I also think banning vaping is not the way to go. If you are going to ban it ban cigarettes first

[@J.J.J.J.J.J.J]

Well done on stopping tobacco! Soon enough you'll get past vaping.

[@r.i.t.randominterestingthi4031]

just banned both of them wtf with the ladies first excuses?

[@andikasatriop]

It's been two months since I quit smoking cig, yes I switch to vape, first 3-5 days without ciggs is the hardest part I'm feeling withdrawal doesnt matter how many I puff. Pass the 7 days and the crazy craving is almost gone, after 2 weeks I dont feel like the need to smoke a cigg I do still get the tingling to try but not as hard when I started to switch. Was using 6mg, now going 3mg, I'll keep cutting the nic and how many ML used until I dont feel like vaping anymore. The end goal is to stop inhaling anything but air of course. Few things I notice after I switch: My body and mouth doesnt smell as bad, my partner always said I smell like ash tray :( My sleep schedule going normal/ I am able to sleep faster. (I wake in the middle of the night on early stage of switching, after 3 weeks or so I no longer woke up in the middle of the night). Better performance on physical activity :) My body felt better waking up in the morning. Been smoking since highschool, 9 years passed and I really thought I could not stop smoking, but vape changed this, now I'm on my way to quit vaping, so you should use vape as a method to cut/ quit smoking at all. If you didn't smoke dont vape at all, better for your body!

[@Saarchi_]

Most of my friends vape and they are very VERY proud of it. Usually, telling me how great vaping is. Personally, I still see vaping as smoking but it doesn’t smell as bad. I’ve always hated smoking so avoiding vape comes natural to me. Although, I won’t condemn those who vape as it is their lives; as long as I don’t do it, I’m ok :)

[@NM-wk3dg]

Been vaping on and off since 2012, with long gaps in between, it really helped curb ng smoking habit. I still vape, but haven't smoked cigarettes for years. What's alarming is how young ones have started smoking and vaping, even those underage.

[@Halfnoob]

i started smoking when i was 13 years old. i quit smoking july 2022 when i met my fiance. im 40 years old now. almost reach my 1 year smoke free

[@daydreamingyou]

I understand that it's hard to stop the addiction but I hope people can keep trying, bc in the end it's not just for us but also for people around us. My father was a smoker too but after he got sick with his lungs, he decided to stop and it work.

[@nolo8111]

The female Indonesian influencer have her mom fucked by cancer becuz of 2nd hand smoker..... yet, she still be a vaping influencer = ="' wtf What she actually do is quit everything that related to smoking after what happened.

[@apocryphaemiya9331]

I never smoke, and only ever vape one time only. I always believe that everyone chooses their own addiction and I know how dangerous it is to try even just once, so to every smoker that wishes to quit, good luck. I wish you all the best

[@fcqyy]

I started smoked cigarettes when i was 14. I stopped smoking 4 years ago and replaced it with Vape. Today’s I stopped Vape nearly a week. Honestly it’s not easy for me. Wish me luck guys, I wanna healthy lifestyle ☕️👊🏻 oh im 28 this year btw

[@bhavya8043]

Good luck, you got this. Stay strong my friend

[@dodongai]

I smoked like crazy, but it wasn’t until I tried cigar that I realised how disgusting smoking really is. It’s like a self realisation and you just naturally want to stop because of the dirt you see your lungs absorb

[@nob.s-studyaccnt9256]

This, self realisation leading and cbt is the best way to get rid of any psychological addiction

[@VitchAndVorty]

Amen to that. Although, in my case, smoking was my coping mechanism when dealing with my own depression. But, then I realized that I was destroying myself TWICE by doing both at the same time. So I decided to quit them both, for good.

[@liamthen445]

​@@VitchAndVorty good for you man

[@chiayin7097]

@@nob.s-studyaccnt9256w

[@rjjrjehehew]

Degenerate

[@dedirosandi5604]

Already vape for 6+ years, and smoke no more, I had Rhintis on 2010, then after each I smoke my sinus went bad, and heavy breathing. 2018 switch to vape, and it doesn't effect my sinus, my sinus are okay, except for extreme weather.

[@pyfirst214]

I rather have a generation of vapers than a new generation of smokers.

[@darwinqpenaflorida3797]

Indonesia was the only Southeast Asian country never ratified the WHO Convention of Tobacco Control including Cigarette Marketing since the only place can be seen outdoor ads in highways and even on media like television

[@jaz1410]

Yeah but the regulation of cigarette ads and tvc in Indonesia are not allowed to literally or visually display any smoking activities, instead they create a lifestyle story or masculin theme in the ada story line…

[@darwinqpenaflorida3797]

@@jaz1410Yes my brother because anywhere in Indonesia especially Sumatra and Java they have seen Cigarette ads with lifestyle or sports theme in major cigarette companies like Semporna, Djarum Super and others(P.S I’m a Filipino and I’m not a smoker)

[@Grefareal]

ironically, smoking and vaping is seen as part of their identity

[@darwinqpenaflorida3797]

@Broskisnowski Yeah Kreteks are local cigarette produced since the Dutch colonial period

[@darwinqpenaflorida3797]

@@Grefareal Yeah

[@cocoannachristian708]

I remembered watching it some time ago then it was no longer available. Glad it is uploaded again so I can share on this issue. Thanks.

[@daveinuk9845]

The NHS in UK gave me a vape, now I don't do any smoking of any kind. Thanks go to the NHS for the great help and the vape as patches, chews or other things didn't help at all.

[@myrandomlife8881]

Out of topic but 2:57 wow amazing accuracy, aiming for cam lenses

[@yeeyourlasthaw2803]

6:20 I used to use an rda like that guy. Did my own coils, used good cotton for my wicks, and it was amazing.

[@gerardoruiz3359]

I was 16 when Juul came out. Since then, now I am 19 and havent stopped vaping. Until I just randomly went cold turkey May 1st, 2023. I am currently 2 weeks clean from a 3 year day to day use. Wish me luck guys

[@dad875]

All the best man, way to go. 🤝🤝

[@alaric8220]

How is it?

[@nukeputin420]

Hope you're still clean

[@nv1573]

I stopped smoking through vaping, I lowered the nicotine content I was vaping over 3 months. In the end when I was vaping without nicotine I even forgot my vape from time to time and I just didn´t use it anymore. I was having issues with smoking ciggaretes so I had an incentive to stop. And there were no people around me who smoke so that also probably helped me from stopping.

[@jedsanford5065]

I quit smoking by vaping after reading the NHS report from England basically saying, if you cant stop smoking, start vaping and stop smoking now. I did. Overnight, cold switch. I had failed to quit smoking dozens of times, but switching to vaping was easy. I admit, I am addicted AF to the vape, as bad as I ever was to smoking. It does seem much healthier, I can say. I dont cough anymore really at all. No phlegm coming out of my throat daily. I don't stink all the time like a cig. And every now and then I have a smoke with a buddy, and you can really feel the harsh physical effects of smoking in comparison. It slaps like a brick.

[@xam.official]

As an Indonesian vaping is a fairly common thing here there are a lot of vape shops in my area like two shops with not event only across the street. Vaping can stop a smoking addiction but it also has risks. As a student i can't really do much to prevent smoking or vaping but I really hope the government will do something about it.

[@shalbec3232]

The documentary won't do anything😂 they don't are and will continue to vape

[@user-bv5pc8hc1u]

dokumenter2 anti vape ato rokok kayak gini sebenernya cuman pengen bikin bangkrut pengusaha2 lokal indonesia kok...karena gimanapun juga industri ini adalah yg memberi rejeki pada banyak WN kita... dan gimana pun juga dampak alkohol dan junk food itu sebenernya lebih parah daripada rokok...tapi kita gak pernah tuh liat orang2 bule ini nutup bar2 alkohol dan nutup resto2 junk food...kita gak pernah liat orang2 bule ini protes ttg junk food ato alkohol... cuman rokok dan vape doang yg selalu mereka larang bahkan sampe di negara kita sndiri...

[@vivekjkumar5797]

indo govt is so weak. i wish they stopped taking bribe so much and look toward helping the people.

[@vvboo]

@@user-bv5pc8hc1u mulai

[@glennjv01]

quit smoking more than 10years ago when vaping was just new. i quit smoking immediately and quit vaping after 6 months since i gradually reduced the nicotine. My opinion, its a tool to quit smoking. I too believe its the lesser evil than tobacco smoking.

[@wastingtime6211]

Yeah I'm currently addicted to nicotine still at 25. I started smoking at 13 or so very lightly, but by 15-18 it was becoming rather heavy. From 19-22 it was significantly reduced but still smoking at social events (0-few times a month), or the rare solo cigarette (under 5 times a year). But since around 23-today it's been as heavy if not heavier as my 15-18 days. I'd say over 85% was vaping, 15% cigs or some form of tobacco (with a rise recently in cigs for some reason). Until recently, I've kept coughing a lot since I was around 15, and since 24 I've started developing chest tightness / pain / feels like im being pressed on. Basically since around 23 to today this is the heaviest smoking period of my life since 15-18, but now it's with chest pains sometimes. Comes and goes, can be very annoying it's like it's replacing the less frequent cough now. Lung xray came back negative, may try to go deeper but it seems clear just stop smoking anything and it should help. I'm just flat out addicted. I just finished smoking daily with those devilish vapes after being laid off for a few months straight. I don't even really feel that buzzed anymore when I hit them after taking a week or two off from them and trying again. I want to improve my health, and these things are so addictive and especially hard to quit when I'm on alcohol. I'm working on trying to not buy vapes anymore (about 2 months since last one I bought died), and try my best to only smoke when I'm on alcohol (being around friends who have it plus the craving is really difficult to resist). I don't know - but it's a mission for me to try to make this a very occasional habit like once a month or here and there socially. I do not want to buy a vape again, and that's my goal.

[@reiyanish]

i used to be a nicotine addict so much that it got really serious to my own health, i switched from cigarette to vape but i got hooked by it more than cigs for some while and then i tried snus for 3 months and gradually improving to free nicotine products such as gum or even toothpick to keep my mouth occupied. GOOD LUCK TO FELLOW PEPS WHO ARE TRYING TO QUIT SMOKING YOU CAN DO IT

[@bemotivated9883]

That's why we need to raise a children with restrictions. I as a 18 year old completely aware of the things which are injurious for health and also I told my younger brother about these things that the best for him to stay away from them. "You start enjoying it afterwards you don't survive without it. It is addiction which is completely bad."

[@fawls02]

thank you for making such educational documentaries! 👍

[@ESF19791111]

VERY-INTERESTING !!! VERY-WORRYING !!! THANK YOU FOR SHARING :) THANK YOU FROM ISRAEL :)

[@diansapuart]

as indonesian, i never felt more embarrassed

[@ArthursHD]

I rather see them legal than illegal and unregulated. Sadly they forbited flavors in Latvia. That said I don't smoke, drink or vape.

[@vacafuega]

Vaping got me off cigarettes and i'm grateful i had that option. It was definitely much, much better than cigarettes, but now i've quite vaping too, that's much, much better than vaping. There really needs to be much more structure in place to protect younger people, i completely support regulations for that. At the same time we shouldn't throw smokers under the bus, it's an incredibly tough thing to quit, partly because it's so weaved into social interactions and groups. Quitting smoking can mean being excluded from the social circle, and it's not always possible to find another one or to tolerate the pain of exclusion.

[@euniceoz2791]

It's hard to convince one to quit smoking/vaping. At the other side, as someone who never smoke, I was invited a couple times from my friends and colleagues to vape. Vaping has became a young culture, and people around me think that it is cool to vape, but didn't realize the underlying risk from those undefined ingredients in those liquids. There are no regulations for the production of vape, which makes the integrity of product ingredients not trustworthy. Sometimes, when most of your colleagues or friends vape, it also created peer pressure to fit in a certain community. Especially for teenagers, they are easily influenced by friends, and not informed on the cons of vaping. It's dangerous, and disappointing that the data shows about 10 percent of vapers are teenagers. Vaping shouldn't be labelled as 'cool' and 'trendy' but should be marketed fitting to its real purpose.

[@homeland1128]

Imma just thank the Gods and Goddesses that i never touched any vape nor cigs in my school days lmfao

[@veiserexab1428]

No one really says it's cool unless they're like 18 or below

[@r.i.t.randominterestingthi4031]

@@homeland1128 also thank yourself to steel your will againts tempation

[@migspedition]

Marketing rarely appeals to the side of reason because human beings in general are irrational and sensastional 😂

[@TheSunIsMyDestroyer]

southeast asia can do whatever they want, it's southeast asia

[@flywithme3578]

I was one of the 1% - 0mg Nicotine vapers after quitting cigarretes. But after 1 year of vaping I stopped that too. But for an absolute non smoker i like the vapers more because the air doesn't stink that bad around them

[@mypronounismom1056]

If you have never smoked, don't start. However, if you're a current smoker, vape is much better than the cancer stick. Underage sales are prohibited in many countries. What the problem is really is that irresponsible adults are buying for the young. This should be punishable by law.

[@ainzooalgown7589]

its not irresponsible adults but greedy adults, for every sale to a kid they take a small commission and hence are rewarded to sell to kids, when i was in secondary school, the schooler gardener sold cigarettes to students at 10% mark up allowing him to earn more from selling cigarettes than his main job the school gardener

[@ahmadfariz5963]

Who say vape better thay cig?

[@3L3V3N_S1X]

@@ahmadfariz5963 so its worse?

[@Frzned9x]

@@ahmadfariz5963 like every doctor and sciencetist in the world?

[@ahmadfariz5963]

@@3L3V3N_S1X yup..it is worse... Even some studies showed not worse, it same level with smoking

[@loafbread529]

I vape with my friend's family and theyre chill asf. Love em

[@cherry414]

I am fortunate enough that I never got into vaping/smoking (I hope I never will) and I actively try to avoid it even though I'm surrounded by people and friends doing it all the time.

[@somedude6853]

I myself smoked a lot for 7 years and I enjoyed it. But now as I am in my early 30's, I made the concious effort to stop this habit, or rather addiction, because I want to change my life and lean towards healthy lifestyle. I admit I still use vape as a tool to combat smoking but here's hoping to stop inhaling nicotine very soon. I don't hate smoking as it helped me cope during my darkest days. To those who want to stop smoking, I know it is hard but I know you can do it.

[@killshill5896]

Stop Vaping while you can. Its seems harder to quit vaping then smoking cigs. Vaping isn't as harsh on the throat, it smells good, tastes good, and its readily available. If you think you are having issues quitting smoking, you need to acknowledge that its 100x harder to quit vaping. Quit while you can, I'm trying myself but it impossible.

[@mytravls]

What do your medical results say over time?

[@rjjrjehehew]

You deserve the cancer later in your life

[@NoDeathforDinner]

I'm in a similar situation. I stopped smoking a couple of years ago for over a year but stupidly picked it up again. Now I'm using vape to help me quit like I did the first time. We've got this!

[@SuperXmarvinX]

Malaysia and Indonesia as a vape heaven, why am I not surprised. Actually in Thailand, they ban vaping, but people still vape everywhere and there are still some physical shops selling vape and weed.

[@user-sc5es7oo9y]

Me personally, I was able to quit after being a smoker for 9 years, it really is about self dicipline and being able to distract yourself, a message of hope to anyone seeing this is If I a 9 year smoker and quit SO CAN YOU! DONT GIVE IN! YOU CAN WIN!

[@CheapExplorer]

smoker for 20yrs but I'm off the stick during weekdays.. usually only smoke on weekends to relieve stress.. just received my first vape today, 3% nic.. i find it more addictive than normal cigarettes coz of the flavor and convenience (can smoke even indoors)... so cannot tell if it's really the lesser evil among the two lol!

[@aminaljunid]

I actually transitioned to vaping before i stopped smoking( 3 boxes/day) 4 years ago. Vaping is great until i inhaled some really bad juice though. That caused me to give up vaping. While losing interest in bodybuilding and martial arts because it took too long to heal from whatever the bad juice did to my lungs (Shortness of breath, fatigue)So i guess there’s pros and cons.

[@silverfoxchain]

Hope you get back into martial arts! Great job at quitting.❤

[@anooymous84]

having smoking for 16years, close to 1 pack per 2 days & then switching to vape to quit smoking, helped me to save alot more cash. I have since stopped vaping altogether. & i have never look back since

[@rashednayeem]

This thing helped me to quit cigarettes. I used to smoke cigarettes for 16 years and when i started vaping, i could easily resist the urge of smoking cigarettes. But vaping should be allowed only to the required aged. Not to sell to the minorities.

[@jeremyteti914]

Been vaping for 8 years now, 32 years old. Off regular smoke completely, Very fit I played tennis, soccer ,also gyms almost every week without a feeling heavy in the chest like I was smoking before. I do think vape is not healthier, but If I smoke I always feel more fatigue when doing sports.. it's very heavy in the chest. I do not know 8 years is long enough to not feel the longterm effect of vape.. But I felt like I can match the fitness of an athlete when vaping rather than smoking.

[@Praisethesunson]

Which brand do you buy if you don't mind me asking?

[@marccarter1350]

I quit smoking 14 years ago through Vaping. I quit vaping 9 years ago. It works!

[@bryanchrz9284]

I was a vaporista for five years, honestly it made me quit smoking. Customers had experienced the same, but some only do it for lifestyle. Me as a vaporista never tell customer that vape is good for health, but much more better then health. We know vaping is still bad but some people don't how hard it is to quit smoking. Even eating instant noodle is bad for your health. Some of the customers I know are still vaping till now and even take liquids with higher nicotine, some stopped and never came back to the store, some quit vaping and switched back to smoking. In Indonesia vaping is already regulated expecially for liquid producers, so only certified brands are able to produce liquid that are sold to vapestores. Not like back then, where everybody can make their own liquid. Our store policy is never sell to underage customers and we will ask for ID if we feel that the customer is an underage, sometimes we laugh at them when they come and tell them to comeback 10 years later. Even online shop are restricted too, only account that has verified their ID that can see vape products and if you search for vape items on an android phone, it is restricted so you could only see it only through ios or desktop. We tried our best to not sell to minors, but some parents buy liquid for their own son. Some small stores that are opened in their own house and sell vape to underage. They don't care about 18+ cause all they think is profit because it is a profitable business here in Indonesia. Some even sell unregulated liquids and these stores usually sell below the regulated price and makes some big stores close their shop. It's hard when some people fail to follow the regulations, and it is a crisis for now since I see a lot of underage vaping now. Well let's hope there's a change for the regulation where not all people can easliy open up stores here in Indonesia. I still vape for now, good for you guys who don't smoke. For the ones battling hard to quit smoking, goodluck.

[@jonahabenhaim1223]

you still need to look after your health

[@DarkMelodies-hv9wf]

did you just say that parents buy liquids for their kids?

[@bryanchrz9284]

@@DarkMelodies-hv9wf yeah, they vape together

[@nukeputin420]

​@@DarkMelodies-hv9wfI worked at a gas station in the US while I was in college and parents would buy cigarettes for their kiddos

[@mcbchannel7173]

yes, liquids and vape mod/pod devices are restricted to 18+y.o in indonesian local ecommerce “tokopedia”. it requires to upload and verify id card. same goes with alcohol, it needs to verify the id and limited to 21+ y.o

[@dantevortex]

In the Netherlands they recently did a full ban on vape products that have flavours added and only allow the tobacco flavoured ones, and they're only allowed to be sold by specialist retailers who also sell common tobacco. There's some sort of sneaky trap set by the tobacco industry and vaping is the new "healthy cigarette". It's not healthy and never will be healthy. And this is not the first time they did this. Before the filter cigarette came on the market, the smoker's cough was already noted and people died left and right. So they made the filter, and that would make it "healthy". Recommended by doctors!!! Buy now!!!

[@Rondoggy67]

It's an international scandal that vaping companies have been allowed to develop and market products that are designed to draw children into nicotine addiction. These products are fine for harm reduction in smokers, but it should have been obvious that without regulation these companies would go after the youth market.

[@iihchindiiko]

I am a 13yr cigarette smoker, then switched to vaping. Now I still enjoy vaping for the last 7years. yes it's against the goal, which is to actually stop. But I hope the vaping industry can be completely regulated as I myself was alarmed on the growing population of young vapers. for an ex smoker like me, I clearly understand that it was not fully safe. even the McDonald's you buy, you know it's bad for you and can eventually end up on something bad. But it was indeed a relief to fully stop my smoking addiction. Regulation on the highest level is a must. This will provide prohibitions on underage vaping, and also will ensure that vaping will not be a parasite that needs to be eradicated one day.

[@JohnSmith-ws1dp]

You are NOT an ex smoker 🤣 you’ve smoked for 20yrs

[@MetalSniper63]

@@JohnSmith-ws1dp That's where you're wrong, it is not Smoke you inhale... Smoke comes from combustion, you BURN the tobacco. So, NO he's not a smoker and you're just an idiot...

[@randomuser-or5rd]

bro doesnt wanna stop

[@franknchill]

Vaping is not smoking...dumba$$.

[@Blck_Stallion]

Why do you smoke kid? Your mom didn’t slap your face huh? That’s why you smoke. Parenting is the key

[@kwentenn]

I used to vape for over 2years and I gotta say quitting was the hardest thing to do. The thought of quitting made me so anxious. I literally had to destroy my vape mod in order to quit and keep myself distracted.

[@mcbchannel7173]

better to sell your mod bro, and you can use the money to buy something you like. it’s more wise and cost saving haha

[@ucNguyen-xz2vc]

In Vietnam, vaping is more expensive than smoking and the only reason people vape is because of the smell

[@curiousidea]

I had my last cigarette 7 months ago. I went from 12 mgs of nicotine then, last week I'm down to 0 mgs of nicotine. Vaping worked for my NRT.

[@seiwarriors]

I worked in a Vaping company for some time and i never vaped before then however even after working there for some time i never started to vape due to the fact that there were still mg's of nicotine and back then i smoked casually and was trying to quit and thankfully i quit and now going for 2 years but when this dude says that 0 mg is not needed is just a ploy for having consumers consuming thier products in order for the business to keep running therfore all these vaping companies doesn't care about you, they only care about the profits they can gain out of you. In addition when you get 0mg try to break of the habit of vaping as this is something that is the ahrdest thing to do for people.

[@hoff521]

Ironically smoking cigs was a gateway to real nicotine addiction for me. I casually smoked in university, a few here and there per week, and for first few years of working did it because others did. Max I got to was maybe 5 per day during the week, never on weekends, and could easily take weeks off. It smelled gross on my clothes and I'd just never let it become a full-time thing. I then tried nicotine lozenges and started to up my intake because I could have one in my mouth at all times, even while I worked. When I tried to stop those cold turkey like I could before with cigs, I felt what real withdrawal was like. Out of body anxiety, it was insane. I then started vaping as an alternative. In Canada at the time, 5% was sold. That stuff was powerful, and withdrawals were insane, even worse than the mints. More time went by and Nicotine mints at this point gave me heartburn, so I wasn't interested in those, and smoking was even more disgusting to me. What actually saved me was when my country banned anything above 2% vape pods. For a while my lungs were feeling gross, so I had been thinking of quitting, but the withdrawals were too much. When they stopped selling high percentage, it sucked at first and I was pissed, but I could start to more easily take little breaks. After a while I realized it basically did nothing for me other than feel normal, but at least because it was lower percentage, it was easier to get off. I finally decided to quit it all this past Christmas. The first few days were hell, and for the next month I had pretty strong cravings here and there, but stuck with it. Happy to still be nicotine-free.

[@banandababa]

Good on you for quitting keep it up 👏

[@silverfoxchain]

Thank you for sharing your story! You took in stride and in steps and that's awesome.

[@thanhdo1963]

my friends introduced me into smoke / vape note that everybody in my friend group vape or smoke I just laugh at them then said that there is nothing better than clean air into lung.

[@lesliehyde]

While I am certainly going to be an EXTREME outlier, I only started vaping nicotine about 50mg/ml concentration of nicotine off of my neurologist's recommendation as he needed me to be using a stimulant that wasn't a classed substance (class 3 by DEA here in the US-> amphetamine type) to help treat side effects of chronic pain and dysautonomia as im already on a class 2 from pain management for severe chronic pain conditions and a class 4 from my neurologist (same who recommended me to vape nicotine) for adult onset tourettes which in my case is a result from long-term untreated/undertreated severe chronic pain. My pain management provider has stated his support for me to vape as for reasons we don't understand as to why it does work but we do know that it is working to help with the effectiveness and efficiency of the class 2 medication that he has me on. While my cardiologist and pulmonary provider aren't a fan of me vaping, they do understand why my neurologist and pain management provider has me vaping nicotine so they do keep a close eye on me and my body (heart and lungs). Granted, I didn't start vaping nicotine until I was 32, so while I do have resulting brain damage from the untreated and undertreated chronic pain (many years of this), my brain was fully functional/formed. Prior to vaping nicotine I wasn't someone who touched any form of nicotine apart from childhood second and third hand tobacco smoke courtesy of family members who smoked.

[@kenkensistoso]

I used to smoke and its been 5 days since I stopped vaping. I bought a disposable vape 5 days ago and saw the messages in the store about quitting. As I was vaping, i thought maybe i should quit and a few hours later, I lost the vape i just bought. Maybe its a sign but disposable vape price is on the rise and I figured I could save some cash and hopefully stop before I start a family with my gf. Wish all of you brothers/sisters who are trying to stop the best!

[@anythingmimi]

How are you now brother

[@kenkensistoso]

@@anythingmimi I miss vaping for sure but i am doing my best. I no longer have loose bowel, I used to run to the toilet whenever i vape too hard. I breath better. I feel better overall

[@mrmisplaytcg]

CNA is getting really good at doing online documentaries! Proud of you guys!

[@Praisethesunson]

Cigarettes being made digital has extended the life of tobacco corporations for another generation.

[@juggalo4life247mfkr]

I don't know if it's the same,but if I use a vape cart to use cannibas,my lungs get way more fkd up than just smoking trees.i don't know if it's the same as comparing vaping to smoking cigarettes...

[@makiruby9462]

In Malaysia, i saw lot of youngin who never ever smoke cigarettes before , started vaping. This mean they introduce harm to their body. Also, I dont understand the reasoning of malaysia company not having 0% nicotine option for the liquid when they claim their goal is for people to stop smoking altogether, kinda oxymoron.

[@yarmgl1613]

if they didn't vape they would have smoke cigarette instead, smoking is a "good" habit, it's good for the mind

[@makiruby9462]

@@yarmgl1613 yeah agreed with this. Most of my friend who vapes says they cant fit well unless the also vape, it give them "peace of mind"

[@edwardlumsianming3430]

People just want to do what they want to do regardless of the health issues. Consequences will surface way later in life. We reap what we sow. How they want to live their lives it is their choice. 😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@J.J.J.J.J.J.J]

second hand smoke kills 1 million + people per year. Tobacco smoking needs to stop.