Space Combat is stunning! | Dyson Sphere Program | Combat update

[@TheDutchActuary]

I'm back! Also, if you're a member with early access - i'm updating many of the blueprints as this is buffering. For all of you who provided feedback and suggestions for the blueprints: Thank you so much!!

[@sawyeriii]

Glad you're back, I prefer your well considered approaches to logistics games. For this update I've seen about everything new except the 5 new unique items that can only be gathered as drops from fog forces on the ground. I've seen, discussed and even suggested a few ways to possibly maximize items dropped from such mob, but wonder what your solutions would be for the two farm types: an everything farm, and a unique only farm. I expect the only differences between the two will be the belting, filtering, and/or sorting from the BAB's into the network but will keep an eye out for variations. What I've noted thus far about fog farming is a follows: 1. Items dropped vary every 3 base levels up to level 24. The unique items start at level 12( and I suspect add a new item every 3 levels after until level 24). 2. Avoid attacking the base relay and central base building. If you can let the outer buildings grow then the fog spawn quantity and types will improve, thus improving the potential drop rates. 3. The central base area tends to be safe for the fog mobs so leading them outward immediately after they spawn minimize time to death, which also maximizes potential item drop rate. 4. While any weapon could work for the actual killing of the fog, energy weapons would maximize returns as they wouldn't need resources for ammo. 5. The BAB's will hit an output limit in later levels if not using all 9 ports, and maybe a large depot and DLS atop too. 6. The BAB's and signal towers can tank the enemy fire better than most weapons, but even laying "useless" belts all around the empty area of the base work well to pull the fog outward to attack right from spawn. I presume 6 signal towers arranged radially from the base center will work well to pull the mobs outward, presuming you can keep the range such that you are careful how close to the base you place the signal towers. However this may not be a viable solution if you have missile launchers anywhere on the planet. I figure making a blueprint based off a fully built up level 24+ base would allow one to ensure the ranges of the weapons hit were they need to and garbage belting can be used in the blank areas to pull the fog out to be farmed. Primarily, I'm not actually sure of all the advantages of using the items made from the unique fog drops and if it is worth it for most gamers. I believe the Mk III assemblers and smelters, which need unique fog drops to be created, are each 8x faster than the Mk II, but I await your judgement on the pros and cons of them.

[@davy50g55]

Merry xmas and a happy new voice (box)!

[@TheDutchActuary]

I haven't fully tested this yet, but I don't think farming the fog is something the typical gamer should/would do. It's a lot of work, not without risk, for something that's not essentially different from just building your own factory.@@sawyeriii

[@basbekjenl]

Yeah for a first update with combat I thing the dark fog is a great introduction and there is plenty of changes that can be made to it to make it better but for a long awaited update I'd call it a success.

[@McJorgan]

I started using your blueprints before i started making my own, and now I can't stop lol

[@TheDutchActuary]

As long as you're having fun, you're doing it right ;)

[@NoshThyme]

Its a drug

[@kormoxkall6687]

Man look at this guy over here with his non spaghetti factory, I'll stick over here with my Italian made one

[@TheDutchActuary]

Don't forget the cheese!

[@dukecunning7046]

LOL!

[@nullactor]

Spiniform being renamed to Stalagmite has really thrown me for a loop. Spiniform for life!

[@TheDutchActuary]

So it wasn't my imagination that stuff was called different before 0_o

[@Tasarran]

I do that same thing with the polar science hub! On my latest build, it is surrounded by a huge deuterium fractionator ring.

[@dukecunning7046]

Another interesting video. How did you get so much Metadata? Also, this is a summary episode. Do you have the longer playthrough? Thanks again.

[@TheDutchActuary]

I've done quite a few playthroughs (each one getting meta data) but never really use it, so it stacks up :P

[@dukecunning7046]

@@TheDutchActuary Thanks for the quick response. I assumed that content creators do a lot of playthroughs. I don't plan on using my metadata, either; but, I would like to have 2000 or so metadata. I only have like 500 of each. Guess I need to play more. 🙂

[@TheDutchActuary]

If you want a lot of meta data, the endgame is where you want to be. Metadata is produced by your science production rate (not the amount itself, but the most you made in a minute during that playthrough). Stock up a lot of materials, get a few hundred matrix labs ready, and unleash the stockpile..... profit!@@dukecunning7046

[@dukecunning7046]

@@TheDutchActuary YES! This is the missing information that I was looking for! Very much appreciate it! Have a Great Day! LOL 🙂

[@jeffreyspinner9720]

*Nvm, you don't have it listed in the ala carte downloads, but in each ala carte download you have it referenced to one large collection, "2024 Combat Collection" tyvm!* My bad... first cup of coffee not yet finished... -I don't see your blueprints in one tidy place. I've found lots of your stuff on the DS Blueprints site, but not as a collection. Am I missing something? ...and it's under The Dutch Actuary (I passed the CPA exam decades ago...) not TDA like on ytube (!)-

[@TheDutchActuary]

Glad you found it! I totally recognize those ' oh, duhh' pre-coffee moments :D :D

[@jeffreyspinner9720]

@@TheDutchActuary Ty for the work, and more importantly... the sharing!

[@salm215]

Hey TDA, great series. You only forgot to post the blueprint of the Assembers MK2!

[@wizmo57]

if you turn the dark fog sliders all the way up, combat is a big deal, you gotta play smaller/taller/slower, its cool ... much more factorio

[@samgau2]

My plan that i didnt try yet because Christmas. Is to use i later research ammo like swarm missile fired from icarus. Also in my playthrough. Am scared of using interplanetary cargo ship since the dark fog orbit between my planet. And not outside the planet orbit like yours

[@Rogerfoulger]

so watching another stream if you remove them access to all planets in a system and they they have no foothold you can starve them out with matter, get them to attack reduce their numbers and the take out the hive

[@TheDutchActuary]

Yup!

[@Fire_forge]

Are fleets caped at 2? Same question for fleet size? I don't have the game yet but im really hoping to get it soon 👀

[@TheDutchActuary]

No you can upgrade them a bit further!

[@Fire_forge]

Thank you!

[@jackyoung1208]

2:12 Crank that sucker up to 3,000% metadata (max fog, min resource) and say that again, lol.

[@TheDutchActuary]

Well yea, but that would go for pretty much any game that you put on ' kill me now ' settings ;)

[@jackyoung1208]

@@TheDutchActuary 's more fun that way. *cries in ~1500 handcrafted blue cubes while losing 3-5 turrets per wave*

[@emodramabomb2208]

I'm starting to wonder if there is a endgame with the dark fog. Like, do you completely wipe them out or are they there to be intentionally levelled up and farmed for materials for the advanced "hidden tech" goodies you can build with what they drop. The hidden tech honestly is the only reason i have combat enabled in my current playthrough.

[@TheDutchActuary]

Honestly if the materials is what you're after, farming them is definitely a viable tactic it seems. Feels a bit weird to me, but hey, it works!

[@emodramabomb2208]

@@TheDutchActuary I was under the impression certain new materials were dark fog drop only? Not a lot of information about it, but most references pushed me in that direction. Am I going about it the wrong way?

[@TheDutchActuary]

Nope, you're correct. The high level dark fog drop the new items@@emodramabomb2208

[@St4rTr3v1Ut10n]

I saw a comment saying space combat had yet to be implemented. Like okay they have Corvettes and Destroyers but k

[@TheDutchActuary]

True! Space combat currently is a bit simplistic, but you can make it work (check out the next video as well)

[@gordonfreeman9506]

i cant destroy space hive?

[@sawyeriii]

You can, but it can vary in difficulty based on your fleet, squadron, energy weapon, engine, upgrades and tech. You can also pull the hive fleets away from their turrets and take out more of the ships faster by flying in range, deploying the fleet and then warping a short bit away. If close enough to a planet you can park on the ground under power towers getting your fleets restocked as you replenish the fleets in space attacking the hive fleet. After the fleet is gone, approaching from 1 side of the hive slowly will let the fleets take out the turrets without being in range of multiples at the same time. Once the hive and every relay in the system is gone, the hive threat meter goes away, but any bases on a planet will still be around( good for fog farmers).

[@CrispyMuffin2]

You can, but its gonna be HARD, especially if you're not prepared. I've got corvettes unlocked and every available combat upgrade for purple science, but i still got steamrolled when i approached the hive I think thats what the Destroyers are best for

[@TheDutchActuary]

You can, check back in tomorrow!

[@MikeVoidKai]

Nice video, ive quitted the game for a strong reason: they delete my save file without any warning ( the save file ive playing along your masterclass) into that savefile i had 190+ hours into and its all gone bcs of the update, If they would gave the warning and said you cannot expriences the new content with a old savefile (i wouldve consideren starting over) but they didnt do that, the game is fun and all but i wont recommend to anyone that wanted to keep a savefile and dont be scared of devs deleting they stuff without asking if steam hada option to refund a game over 190+ hours i would refunded it 100% With that all i will watch the these episoden gonna be fun and see how it is and see if its worth to even touch the game again.

[@Delphineas]

...They did? Even so, why the HELL would you think that such a massive update would be old save compatible? Why is an EARLY ACCESS game your first ever video game?

[@bitbucketcynic]

I'm still playing a save from the previous version in the current update. No Fog but I didn't want them anyway. Only issue I had was a few broken mods.

[@Yardiff]

I havea savefile that is 350+ hours. It still opens. I suspect that your update installed in a different place on disk.

[@dr4g0nt4nk3r]

I have a save file from when the game first launched and I can still access it and play it. Sounds like a bug or your files got lost somewhere. The devs didn't delete it

[@NoshThyme]

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