Space Engineers 2 Official Alpha Reveal Trailer

[@Nathan_Higgens]

"oh man, I hope they don't announce a release date of like, late 2026 or something..." "you can play it in 39 days" WHAT???

[@justinc2633]

creative only, but still, im not gonna hesitate to get it, even if this game is garbage on release i trust keen will make it right

[@lsedge7280]

@@justinc2633 Yeah, trust Keen! They'll make it right...like they did with Medieval Engineers. Good one!😂

[@Quantum-Bullet]

@@lsedge7280 SE 1 works so we'll get at least that with new features.

[@lookatel3658]

​@@lsedge7280well, they did it right with SE1

[@lookatel3658]

​@@lsedge7280By the way, I noticed all your comments revolve around trolling.

[@anotherlemon1053]

Glad to see they retained blueship-splitting technology for SE2

[@deggy42]

The boom-crash-kablooey feature set is very important.

[@rabiatorthegreat6163]

Perhaps that included some learning from other games (and I approve). Avorion has symmetrical building, where each block is simultaneously placed on the mirrored part(s) of the grid. From The Depths has "prefabs", which are user-defined grid segments. Those can be quite complex and placed in a few klicks.

[@tjpprojects7192]

I remember getting SE1 for 5 dollars. I remember when there was no gravity, wheels were just introduced, there were no planets, etc... We've come a long way.

[@Quantum-Bullet]

We yearned for land vehicles, making terrains with voxel tools.

[@ColinRichardson]

Yes, the Planet Update was such a massive game changer...

[@suicidalbanananana]

Do you remember paying more for that version then the current build of SE1? (30 bucks for a very barebones SE2) I sure don't...

[@nevimnereknu5623]

Yea.. and still not working well

[@RussTi]

@@ColinRichardson I got it because of the planet update. Never looked back.

[@enshrowd]

WOAH COLLISIONS UNDER 20 M/S WONT DAMAGE???? YEAAAAAAAAHHH

[@deggy42]

@@enshrowd This could be MASSIVE for mechanisms and multi-grid machines. Having parts actually be able to touch without constantly repairing the contact point? Count me in.

[@iCore7Gaming]

are you really hyped about that? I was expecting orbits like KSP, planets that move and rotate, real planet sizes, movable and huge asteriods, and not a sad 300m/s speed limit (which makes no sense in space).

[@deggy42]

@@iCore7Gaming It's an alpha. SE1 launched into alpha with almost no features and look where it is today. The 25cm grid, the increased speed limit, and the lack of low speed collision damage all point to a game that's trying to let players do interesting, emergent physics-based stuff. SE1 is very easy to push past its breaking point in those departments, so it's exciting to see movement in the right direction.

[@bakto2122]

​@@iCore7Gamingthat would be a different game. Dealing with orbital mechanics isnt for everyone and not what this game is targeting. As for real size, I mean even kerbal space progam is only at a scale of 1:7 (compared to SEs 1:100) and it has a fast forward button (which you cant add to SE because multiplayer). Just exiting the atmosphere would take forever. Also when was the last time you ran out of space on a planet? On the other hand moving asteroids seem like an awesome (and feasible) idea. But also not quite sure how that would improve gameplay. And yeah the speed limit is kinda sad but assuming a simulation speed of 60fps. You'd be already moving at 5m per tick, which is enough to phase through walls, depending on implementation. They probably have some measures in place to prevent that from happening, but those are probably gonna be significantly more expensive if your suddenly moving at 15m per tick. (The part about the speed limit is like 60% speculation. Ive never implemented a physics engine)

[@RealTwiner]

@@bakto2122 The distance between objects for the purposes of collision does scale the cost of the calculations, its a sad and unfortunate reality that there either is no way, or hopefully, no known way, to remove that connection.

[@TBCTop7gear]

From being 13 playing se1 to being 24 and waiting for se2 :^)

[@gvaca433]

Me too, surprisingly same age as well. Would you like to play?

[@kodidavis2819]

really it has been that long, i know that it has but it just does not feel that long

[@Excalium]

Same, this reminds me of 2013

[@gvaca433]

@@kodidavis2819 i think the support and consistent updates made it feel like we are observing a whole evolution

[@bluearcher1559]

Same here bro!

[@Keatosis_Quohotos]

The speed increase from 100 to 300 is huge, and probaly the change I'm MOST excited for

[@interpl6089]

There were mods that did the same and better in SE

[@mattp1337]

Not a game changer given you could mod in this reliably in SE1, but it will be very nice to have in vanilla SE2.

[@Duke_of_Lorraine]

It's a game changer as it increases the max range of trebuchets from 1km to 9km in a vanilla server. Don't ask me why I made not one but several models of trebuchets in that game

[@mattp1337]

@@Duke_of_Lorraine I love it

[@MrPablosek]

@@mattp1337 Would often cause instability on lower end systems because the engine couldn't keep up with loading stuff fast enough.

[@CaptainJack]

Set course for Jan 27th 2025!

[@patrickhogan9256]

Sir the ion thrusters are being stubborn

[@lsedge7280]

Nah. Keen have failed to finish one game they sold, and failed to release another they sold. Not gonna fool me.

[@Royalb_tea]

​@@lsedge7280 bruh, what?

[@comentnine1574]

Aye Captain!

[@lsedge7280]

@@Royalb_tea They never completed ME, it's an incomplete tech demo at best, but a lot of people bought the early access for it before they abandoned the game. There was also a Miner Wars MMO a while back that a lot of people preordered, which just never got made.

[@MysliusLT]

39 days in a cryosleep till the game comes out.

[@MrMarekRosa]

Hehe

[@eno2870]

No, they said it'd be 10,000 years.

[@Myrkanth]

@@eno2870 That translates to 39 days

[@asterlofts1565]

Or play anything else while waiting with fun, expectations and a lot of enthusiasm!

[@Kappa-ze4hj]

unified grid system! the small grid large grid system always seemed strange to me so i absolutely love this change. and the new bluepring system looks so good, will make ship building so much easier

[@lsedge7280]

Unified Grid System has its origins in the ability for large and small grids to coexist in Medieval Engineers. A piece of abandonware which Keen Software House sold to many people, and then abandoned without finishing. Just remember that before buying early access.

[@DizzyDJW]

@@lsedge7280 Bruh Medieval Engineers is done, bugs or not the game is the finished product of what the devs intended, plus it was ahead of its time and once work on SE started you cannot honestly be so naive as to think they would take anybody away from their already small team to work more on a finished game with like 10 bugs.

[@Kappa-ze4hj]

@@lsedge7280 I have no plans to preorder the game or get it as soon as the early access releases, I will wait for it to be worth the price before I buy it. Meaning I want survival and multiplayer. You need to realize when you buy into an early access title it’s a risk that it will get discontinued. If that is a big issue to you then don’t buy games that are not worth their current cost in their current state.

[@DeadShot48]

​@@lsedge7280you really need to look up what early access is

[@CMTechnica]

@@lsedge7280”abandonware” Game was finished, bud. Finished games don’t need updates

[@Acid_8501]

Even in the Almagest system Klang follows us

[@kr7nc]

womble??

[@leonelimalevu7302]

No, we follow Klang!

[@CadeXR]

I was there for the SE alpha, you KNOW I'll be here for the SE2 Alpha

[@DearHalo_lover]

100%

[@usebrain514]

the only game developer I trust today that this wont be a shitshow

[@TheeOnlyStolas]

@@usebrain514 idk man it took them like five years to make multiplayer somewhat stable…

[@usebrain514]

@@TheeOnlyStolas true that. For myself: I never couldve imagined at 2013 that this game would ever reach the state of today

[@obi-wankenobi1419]

What was SE1 alpha like?

[@Batsot]

Oh wow, we've been waiting for SE to properly become a game with gameplay loops for over a decade, now well be able to wait in SE2!

[@salivala1852]

My thoughts exactly lol. Hard to be excited when it just seems like se1 with more features.

[@rogergerhardt3388]

Yeah this is just a patch... and not even a major one

[@fibergran9]

That last scene, recreating the original trailer from 2013, which made me buy the game 10 years ago ♥️

[@Reoh0z]

1:52 A re-enactment of when, for the first time, I met a friend in SE1.

[@NullFront]

I got space enginners after seeing a youtube video showcasing a to-scale starcraft battlecruiser a decade and change ago. I'm so impressed you have managed to not only update it all along, but also improve upon it and make a sequel. Whatever the issues that undoubtedly will come in this next one, getting this far in the videogame industry as it has been this past decade is an achievement and a half in it self. A thousand thank yous for the 1,100 odd hours of SE I've gotten, and I look forward to playing its sequel when access rolls out!

[@Odey555]

One of my biggest issues with SE1 was not being able to build more than one thing per grid space, like placing a handrail and being unable to place anything else within that space even though there was clearly plenty of room. If this limitation has been fixed, I'm excited

[@Skarrier]

Just imagine the levels of detalisation the players will be able to achieve...

[@Z33force]

From what I've seen this has been kinda fixed. They showed a 45 degree slope block and placed another one 25cm away from it. So a railing would probably take only 25cm width instead of an entire block

[@wyqydsyq]

It has been fixed, in some of their dev vlogs they showed you can place smaller blocks in "empty space" on blocks like a medical room and can place diagonal parallel blocks that would have not been possible due to block overlap in the previous grid system

[@hacker3k96]

I've watched this game grow up for years, always being that one game I've always loved and played the most. Been my favourite game, Still is, still will be. Just with a different name now! Keep it up, Keen Software House. We're loving the good work! - Everyone

[@solarwind]

I'm hoping for massive multiplayer in SC2 like at least 100 players at once. This will make the game feel less empty with how ridiculously huge the map is. You'll actually be able to run into people if there's lots of people on but also massive space fleet battles

[@Mark-uk8wz]

They said in Livestream it will have multiplayer + humanoid NPCs

[@null643]

Never going to have that many. Game already hitches from a collision with two mid sized ships. Unified grid means large ships will contain more blocks, therefore more calculations and network replication. In stream they said performance is similar to SE1, a bit better and a bit worse in some areas in it's current state. Multiplayer is so far out still.

[@Batsot]

@@solarwind this ain’t star citizen

[@wyqydsyq]

MMO scale is unrealistic to expect but I am really hoping SE2 will be able to run higher pop (say ~50 players) servers without constant chugging. Even low pop servers with few to no mods in SE have frequent performance issues, even KSH's own 20 player official vanilla servers start to run really poorly when 20 players are actively doing stuff with grids, the poor MP experience is always what prevented me from sticking with SE for long. If they can get solid smooth MP servers hopefully with more players in SE2 I will be very happy.

[@zuckerrube5310]

0:10 10,000 years??? Was 2013 really that long ago?

[@jdantispam338]

Lol, best comment ever

[@O0Neutral0O]

The year 12,077 lol

[@idris4587]

My only issue with it being 10,000 light years away and it taking 10,000 years to get there. Is that it implies that if you travelled close to the speed of light it would take from your perspective 10,000 years to arrive. But it wouldn't. You can get round this by saying that they are travelling at 0.74c which is the point where 1 year onboard = 1 light year travelled onboard.

[@O0Neutral0O]

@idris4587 with the warp drive it's probably like a 10 day trip lol

[@idris4587]

@O0Neutral0O do they have beyond light speed warp drives though? It seems not with it taking 10,000 years to reach a place 10,000 light years away. I love the fact space engineers looks to be using sub light speed warp drives. Its not yet possible but its got good science and its great.

[@TheWarforged]

Just paid up for SE2 and the Pioneer Edition upgrade. So glad to support these guys and get some fresh anticipation and anxiety waiting for the end of Jan!

[@RangerOfTheOrder]

The homage of the red ship ramming the blue ship brought a huge smile to me face

[@unofficial_ai]

I remember the SE alpha years and years ago, I was in elementary school. I would watch TheXPGamers' videos about it, and would fantasize about playing it one day. Eventually, in 2015 or so, I finally bought it. I've made some incredible memories with it over the years with my friends. I'm extremely excited for this, now, as an adult.

[@trollpatsch0815]

SE 02 looks like SE 01 with a 300ms Speed Mod. I hope it will be worth it, and its not just a Way to squeeze some more money out of the Community.

[@GurtGobain]

Yeah I feel like this should've just been a free update to the base game rather than fracturing the player base. Big new updates attract new players.

[@LlamasEatHotdogs]

@@GurtGobain When was the last time you played 1? Game is prehistoric, engine completely out of date. All they really need to do is make the same game with a better engine. Its a sandbox game afterall.

[@F4ngel]

Wow, this really does feel like space engineers 2. Really excited for unified grid building. Not to mention all the movement and collision in the background look clean and smooth af.

[@Xocliw]

The stars align for a new beginning-witness the dawn of the next era. Engineers, welcome to the alpha of Space Engineers 2! ✨ I have that same feeling right now when I was racing back from high school to play Space Engineers everyday in 2013... HYPED! Anyone else? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@jh5kl]

for sure 😃

[@ILYHAFU]

Can't wait. this looks very good!!! keep up the good work Space Engineers dev team

[@sethproaps8899]

Those new menu UIs are beautiful, and that soundtrack omg

[@WeavyHeaponsPie]

feel like this is putting a full game price tag on something that should be an update

[@intoxic4ted568]

Yep, that's it is

[@duckhunter711]

Been a fan for such a long time now, I cannot wait to buy this. What a beautiful leap in technology

[@jamesliu7048]

It’s great that we can see the hard work of a large number of community mod creators. In addition to taking the MOD as your own and selling it as DLC, you also package the MOD together and re-sell it as SE2. In addition, Early Access Again. Well played.

[@runikwolf7755]

I might end up waiting until some form of survival gets released, but I am regardless definitely excited. Knowing the base speed limit is higher is huge and I'm gonna love messing with the new grid system.

[@astraw570]

I am so excited!! Congrats to the hole team over at Keen Software House!

[@nifango2150]

Im really happy!

[@freekjegeen8603]

I’ve been invested in SE ever since SE1 was still in alpha and i can’t wait to do it all over again with SE2

[@mynameisprivate158]

Welp they could never get SE1 working well maybe they will have better luck with SE2! At least it won't be worse!

[@Taurus_Skyglaive]

Pre-ordered. Thank you for your business.

[@SwiftTurtle911]

Buying my copy today. support AA game studios! They are the future (and present).

[@Pro100tv9]

Into the new era!

[@pendingchange3776]

Wow i sure do hope they dont abandon their game in early access They would never do that

[@AegirBuildsAndBeats]

So excited to dive in on Jan 27th and just relax and build!

[@marekbortnowski3110]

imagine wakeing up after 10000 years just to see humans saying ahh yes your are finaly awake we got here 9800 years ago with new wormhole drive

[@GidarGaming]

Haha this is probably quite similar to what would actually happen. Even if they took 5,000 years instead of 10,000 due to faster ship technology. At least you'd have other people to learn new things from and a huge history to explore that had developed in the time you were asleep. But I'm sure things would have changed significantly and could be so crazily different you might just want to avoid people in general.

[@marekbortnowski3110]

@@GidarGaming there was a game that had situation like this

[@Thoker92]

I'm thrilled with what I've seen so far. They should take as much time as they need until the game is free of bugs and works well.

[@alr1242]

I'm very excited for the FINISHED release of the game. Releasing a vertical slice that is just creative mode around some asteroids is far too little for me. I need at least survival mode and planets. I still have plenty to do in SE1 anyways. I hope development goes well.

[@Dawsatty]

"Welcome back engineer!" Hits hard 😂

[@Mamorufumio]

Clear to see that this is a creative mode and not survival, that’s likely in the works

[@rabiatorthegreat6163]

Confirmed, Keen are releasing features in stages. First Creative, then Survival single player, then water and eventually multiplayer.

[@ShiftyMoravian]

I have over 500 hours on SE1. I have never played survival propper 😁

[@Skarrier]

​@@ShiftyMoravianslightly above 1000 hours, and i never even touched survival xd

[@IkfesS]

@@Skarrier I played survival with a friend and it's incredibly fun

[@BoristheBlade]

survival impossible is where its at 🤣

[@GlacialCram]

I don't build space ships, I build mythological ships, and this game lets me do that.

[@CHHazi]

I'VE WAITED FOUR, NO, FIVE THOUSAND YEARS FOR THIS!

[@piperMcGuffin]

Don't you mean ten thousand years?

[@danos22]

I am soo much exited.. I play SE1 for years.. And this... this is soo much better!

[@fancycat2319]

is it just me or does this look almost exactly the same as SE1?

[@Anderswelle]

Its not just you... Nothing looks new. Even the graphics are the same.. It looks like a game from 20 years ago... It looks like a skinned version of SE1 with mods. So yeah, its just a pain to watch a trailer that tries to explain the stuff we already have in SE1.. I litterally cant see how this could not just be a DLC or similar to the existing game..

[@fancycat2319]

@@Anderswelle Right now my main hope is that they made a purpose built engine for it. if we get a new foundation even if the game itself isnt different modding will be way more powerful

[@GeneralLee131]

It seems to mostly be a rebuild of SE1 on a new engine. It should support things like liquid water and other neat features, along with performance boosts and less clangy physics.

[@fancycat2319]

@@GeneralLee131 that will open up a lot of possibilities with modding

[@dollardrow6097]

300 meters per second? I'm definitely need a mod for a lot more

[@seithiophi666]

It's enough to make a grown man cry... and that's okay

[@TBC256]

I have like 50 hours in the game but I've bought all DLCs and I'm excited for what comes in Space Engineers 2. I'm very happy to support this project

[@Calaban619]

I really appreciate the "vertical slice" development strategy- taking a slice of the game mechanics, developing it from top to bottom- and releasing for play, before moving to the next slice. This way they get player participation feedback early, instead of releasing it all 5 years later. Oh, I also super duper love the "backpack building" thing, where our backpacks are chunky because they have mini refineries/assemblers built in; can literally handmine and start building, just standing there.

[@FrosteAto_]

We've been here before, so many years ago. Look forward to the next decade to come!

[@Quatuux]

The main thing this game lacks is aliens/pirates/animals AI for single player. This game just feels so lonely...

[@Mislavestina]

Let's hope they add these things in the second game, road map says they are planning to add a story campaign and npcs

[@Quatuux]

@Mislavestina I also think that it should get closer to Minecraft/Feed The Beast / IndustrialCraft or even Age of Empires in terms of evolution. You start naked, get some wood first, and have to work your way up to finally reach space and explore the system.

[@Mislavestina]

@Quatuux it wont work like that since the story already is that you traveled into this new system via ship, but modders can always make it like that

[@Quatuux]

@@Mislavestina Anyway, my point is that Space Engineers 1 is too empty and superficial to engage players.

[@Pyr0Monki]

From Pre Alpha to Alpha to Beta to Pre Alpha again. Nice

[@karlheinzneugebauer]

I NEVER pre-order, but for this, I will make an exception.

[@justinc2633]

same, SE1 is really solid, consistent updates, even if the game sucks on day 1 i trust itll come around

[@karlheinzneugebauer]

@ You don't have to convince me. I already bought all DLCs for SE1, right now SE2 + Pioneer DLC.

[@lsedge7280]

be careful. Keen Software House have a history of not following through. Medieval Engineers was sold in early access to many people, but was never finished. A Miner Wars MMO was sold as preorder to many people, but was never released.

[@karlheinzneugebauer]

@ I get your concerns, but since SE is their flagship series, I expect them to deliver. And it's an Alpha version again. So, I also expect some bugs and some content will follow after launch.

[@walugusgrudenburg3068]

For KEEN!? That's a bad idea. Remember the tale of Medieval Engineers. You don't wanna put too much faith in them.

[@soundwave1568]

Ill only buy this when there's planet

[@NullFront]

Looks like it might be a merry Clangmas after all

[@sem785]

I'm so ready, this looks amazing!

[@nomadelectron9997]

I was burned by KSP2, I'll believe it when it is actually released

[@gamingmitmaus6949]

Same, but KSP was announced 2-3 years before the crappy EA version came out and had lots of issues with the dev team before release, SE2 looks like a good alpha and they waited with the announcement until it was playable

[@Ckcdillpickle]

Keep in mind, KSP2 is owned by Take Two Interactive,

[@laserak9887]

@@Ckcdillpickle Keep in mind Keen has a 33% 'success' rate

[@NovemberAutumnFalls]

Well here we are space engineers 2 is on the horizon but i still don't have conditions to afford a computer powerful enough to run the first space engineers, don't get me wrong i absolutely love space engineers and keen, i got all the dlcs from space engineers and watch from years the game grow since 2016, i really dream some time into the near future i can enjoy and play both from a computer i afford on my own, guys enjoy the game for me i hope soon we all see each others on the almagest system :)

[@holesmak]

Three times the speed limit, two times engineers, ten times cooler

[@zackzeed]

So many QoL changes! Awsome! Can't wait for the future when survival also gets added and polished up =)

[@dainythedragon]

I love space engineers, it was one of the first games I played when I got a pc. Everything you've shown off here excites me, but I want to give a bit of advice. I am not a game dev, more so just someone who genuinely wants the best for your game. I really hope y'all make sure to 1) make clear that this is an alpha, so things can and will change as development continues. 2) Don't skip on optimization until after the game launches to early access, because that's been one of the largest complaints I see used against sequels to older games. 3) Know that no matter what you do, your work is appreciated, and that the community always wants the best for you and the amazing games you make.

[@winfehler]

My, my . . . time does fly when you're having fun ^^

[@Smackindaface]

Looks exactly like Space engineers 1?

[@GurtGobain]

Yeah I feel like this should've just been a free update to the base game rather than fracturing the player base. Big new updates attract new players.

[@amcf2000c]

I’ve all ready pre ordered. I was there 10,000 years ago for the first alpha so ill be there for this one

[@rarespetrusamartean5433]

I really hope you guys fixed the issue that causes subgrid armor deformations to engage helicopter mode on any grid it affects. Overall this looks great

[@patrickshores4118]

No subgrids to start with. So we won't know for a while, but it should be more stable.

[@rarespetrusamartean5433]

@patrickshores4118 oh..

[@wills.5762]

VRage 3 will cast Klang to the depths of tartarus, but in a game with a scope like this it will no doubt be possible to summon him still. basically, itll be a lot more stable. Helicopter mode will probably exist but youll have to go out of your way to make it happen

[@stayfrosty1758]

i bought the pioneer edition like straight away!

[@the15minutegamer]

I never pre order games now, however I may have just preordered ! I am so excited , was one of the first games I ever played early access back in the day

[@lsedge7280]

Be careful about preordering from Keen. They have a history of not finishing a number of their games, despite selling them widely in an Early Access state.

[@christopheandre1]

The end collision bring back old presentation nostalgia

[@anonymoususername2201]

the first one wasn't finished. Why you making another one

[@Basement-Science]

wdym, its totally 100% been ""Released""! Here's what I think happended: The game was not in a state where it has mass appeal, so they ran out of money and had to "release" so they could sell DLC to get more money from existing players... instead of actually fixing the reasons so few people buy it. And now they've further developed some of the basic systems, which were NOT the real dealbreakers to begin with, they're trying to repeat everything, somewhat better, but not focussed on the real issues.

[@wills.5762]

Wtf are you talking about?

[@LeChatALunettes]

1. SE1 WAS finished 2. SE1 uses VRAGE2, a limiting and outdated engine. Whatever they wanted to add to SE1, they can't because the engine can't support it. It was built at a time when half of the PCs were running on Windows XP, the rest on Win7. We didn't even have Unreal Engine 4 or DirectX 11, for reference. 3. SE1 is 11 years old. It's about time we get a fresh coat of paint on this franchise, also it'll bring more players and more highlight to the game, and probably allow devs to make more ou of this one (the first game was pretty niche).

[@alexgrimm354]

Se1 is 11 years old. Its running on an 13 years old engine. It has reaches its limit with crazy new Features.

[@benfordrin6978]

I really hope this will get more optimization then SE 1, since Nasa sadly started to lock their backdoor and I can't sneak in to play on their computers anymore.

[@mrdanteclasicos9577]

Watching this trailer just got me SO EXCITED!!!!!! Looking backward where it began to how it is looking now in SE2 is just amazing!!! :'D

[@kacpergames1606]

already purchased pre order of SE2

[@Wallbeige]

what about survival mode.. is this going to leave that behind to rot again?

[@Rentetsuken]

Based on the roadmap linked in the description, their plan for this stage of the Alpha looks to be finding out how the new engine is going to break on different hardware, stress testing blueprint sharing and mod support, and fixing any unintuitive controls and UI. Once they've dealt with the potential issues due to unexpected hardware or other things they didn't/couldn't test for, then Survival will be the focus. Planets and likely basic encounter systems will be part of this stress testing. We have seen VRAGE 3 previews of planets before, so it's likely this is a deliberate holdback to have the bug and glitch data in part 1 being clearer. Once that is done, it looks like that's when they'll be doing all the bugfixing on volumetric water. Multiplayer is looking to be after that. While it has been shown off in the trailers, they seem to want to make sure the more underlying issues are addressed in this alpha testing before they introduce that mess to the general populace. No current time frame on when all this future stuff will be happening. I'm guessing their thoughts are "when stops exploding" or some equivalent. Likely why the livestream was having them outright say that if you don't want to participate in this Alpha testing, then hold off on buying it.

[@lordtelion]

Very surreal seeing the equivalent to see se1 alpha reflected in the new se2, all these years later. Like very nostalgic but also hoping for so much more from the new one.

[@TheFakeGooberGoblin]

Let’s gooo🫡

[@bubbles8871]

"Hey guys, we improved the graphics and increased the price, you also have to buy it again if you own the first one. That's about it. Also it'll crash your pc if it doesn't have the latest specs. We "promise" to provide "improvements" later, just buy it now because we want the money earlier.

[@DeoMachina]

You're mad at the EA business model like it isn't over 15 years old at this point And that SE1 didn't use the same business model successfully

[@engineer1178]

A it’s still a great price B it’s a sequel so of course you need to buy it C it runs better and certainly has a bright af future Inform yourself before looking stupid Oh yeah and if it’s not ready for you don’t buy it, the rest of us will enjoy it

[@Guapter]

300 m/s? are you kidding us? thats NOT a cosmic speed, we want at least 2km/s

[@LeChatALunettes]

Are you aware of the gameplay limitations and even the engine limitaitions with speed? 2km/s would not only be useless (no one can react fast enough at such speeds, it's useless in 99% of situations for 99% of players), it'd be extremely harmful for performances, knowing the physics of SE games. If you want more you can always mod it, but it'll never be as stable as vanilla speed.

[@vinerx8979]

​@@LeChatALunettes at least 700-1000 m/s speed is required to make stable orbits

[@GidarGaming]

​@@LeChatALunettes Engine limitations only really exist because of the limited imagination and problem-solving of the people creating the engine. There are many ways to achieve faster speeds without it looking like a slideshow, but most of those methods just won't work with their current engine and alongside their other systems and their prioritization on small-scale physics simulations. Don't get me wrong, I know creating a game engine is a monumental undertaking, but in the first SE it seems that they prioritized tracking small pieces of debris over keeping the game running smoothly and over actually moving your ship fast. Particularly in multiplayer, sadly. It's not that they can't, it's that they prioritized other things. And while those things allow you to feel a bit more like an engineer solving problems within the scope of whatever current project you're building, I'm not sure those things all matter as much as they seem to think it matters. For example, why "engineer" new ships in space if you can barely even use them because the ship you spent so long to build barely even moves at all?

[@GidarGaming]

@@vinerx8979 Escape velocity from Earth is 11,186.11 meters per second. 300 m/s is laughable at best.

[@spacebrotchen4910]

​@@LeChatALunettes You fly your ships on your own? Most of my ships are running on scripts, they can fly a lot faster than 300 m/s.

[@feeshiey]

This is so exciting!! I'm so hyped, it's just in 39 days too GRAAAHHH

[@squidking191]

This literally looks like the first game with slightly better building mechanics.

[@comradeautukov977]

cant wait to see what that cable does

[@graullas8981]

Guys, I am as excited as yall, but remember DONT PREORDER. Lets see if this game really works first, and then buy it.

[@derpsterPRO]

And if nobody pre order, and nobody buy SE1, because SE2 comes out, how do they get the funding to make the game? I get where you are comming from, because of the early access games in recent years but you gotta admit that to make a game, you need the funding for it, so buying a game is actually important to support a project.

[@graullas8981]

@@derpsterPRO Im not saying to not buy it, and I understand your perspective for sure. I am aspiring game developer also, and trust me I image how much SE2 can cost them to make - but keep in mind, they are working on it for couple of years now, they have funds from SE1, and hearing that they are continuing with SE1, I think they want to keep it as main source of income for SE2. We should all keep playing SE1, dont expect much from the sequel, and carefully buy it when it is ready. Otherwise, we can just be left in the dust as KSP2 players were. I really hope that KEEN is better than them.

[@GidarGaming]

@@derpsterPRO What do you mean? How do you think companies funded themselves before "Early Access" as a concept existed? You either paid for it upfront (i.e. out of pocket), get a loan, or find investors. (Or you worked on it completely for free as a side hustle until you complete enough of the game to be able to sell it.) Considering they made good money off the first game, as well as stuff like Medieval Engineers, if invested wisely by reinvesting into their own business they should already have some budget to work on it. And then if they sell enough copies it will pay itself off.

[@skywise8446]

Looks fantastic! The unified system reminds me heavily of Starship EVO. As someone who has played SE since just before the planet update, This looks exceedingly promising!

[@sem785]

FUCK YEAH

[@minimonkers]

already preordered the pioneer edition

[@AnubisX1]

Wait are they repeating the way SE1 was released? creative with half the blocks missing, then survival, then planets etc?

[@dankbeluga9636]

Yep, Marek's new blogpost said the order will be creative, then planets + survival, then water, and then eventually NPCs and other stuff.

[@lsedge7280]

Hey, that'd be better than repeating the way ME1 was released. Creative with half the blocks missing, then a barely functional survival, then abandonware. Or the way that Miner Wars MMO was released. Accept preorders, then vaporware.

[@wills.5762]

Not really. From what we've seen just in teasers not counting the dev stream, there is literally already an order of magnitude more content in SE2 than the SE1 alpha release. SE1 release had light armor, vents, a light, ion thrusters, gyros, reactors, and an antenna iirc. Maybe 20 different blocks in total including the different armor shapes. Which is how you do an alpha, especially an early alpha.

[@Dennis19901]

@@lsedge7280 Bro, you're commenting everywhere in this post ragging on Keen. Get off the internet my man. Time to grow up and get a hobby.

[@lsedge7280]

@@Dennis19901 I'm happy to not let a company bury their reputation of selling incomplete games, my man.

[@flamewarden7526]

I'm super excited to see what I'll be able to do in Space Engineers 2! I'm less excited for the sleep I'm gonna lose when I play this late at night :p

[@seanwolslau-holdren6731]

I'm taking this with a grain of salt.

[@neuos.t5858]

Cant wait to get home and Pre Order this!!!!!!

[@walugusgrudenburg3068]

No sign of planets, not great. Doubting there will be a gameplay loop for a long time, which is already the main flaw with SE1.

[@derpsterPRO]

Check the roadmap it will have planets, just not on launch

[@walugusgrudenburg3068]

@@derpsterPRO Fair enough. Suppose it is an alpha rather than a beta. Obviously given the dev studio's reputation I'll hold out until they're actually *implemented* though.

[@koolaidspositive]

I love the crash at the end 😂 I was thinking to myself watching the last one "hmm the only thing better would be crashing something to really show off the destruction". I am pleased 🧐

[@xyr0s.official]

this is space engineers 1 with better graphics, I hope theres something more

[@Light.--]

DEAM! That new red ship blue ship crash was NICE!

[@prometeoprime9893]

Looks cool, but what about adding some actual gameplay mechanics to the game ? AI ? NPCs? Factions? Missions? Lore? i thought GoodAI was supposed to be integrated at some point. its been 11 years already of placing and destroying blocks, there's nothing new to me apart from water physics a cool stuff from a tech standpoint

[@profoundgames_]

I'm curious what has been improved over SE1, looking at this trailer it looks like a high-res version if SE1

[@GidarGaming]

Seems that the max speed is a little faster. Wasn't the first one up to 120 m/s? Yet it's still moving like a snail...

[@janievcraftmovie]

so other than graphics and some building tools, wtf is new?

[@bf109h]

Engine?

[@exilestudios9546]

the entire engine was rebuilt from the ground up for this game. it now supports liquid water, volumetric clouds, ray tracing, larger planets, and even orbital mechanics though that is still only being toyed around with. the new engine also allows for larger multiplayer servers and bigger/more complex ships than the old engine ever did and then finally there are going to be entirely new ai block and NPC mechanics. the core gameplay will be very very similar to the original but what you can do with that gameplay has been vastly increased

[@bobski1151]

This game has everything I want to feel like I was that kid again making spaceships out of lego.