Space Marine 2 Double PENATRATION Heavy Bolt Rifle BUILD gameplay and Marine showcase (RUTHLESS)

[@luizviniciusvieiraalexandr4979]

2:49 this second engagement with the majoris only proves that boltguns on this game are actually water guns with a very punchy sound. they need to ethier buff all boltgun or nerf the enemy recistence to damage, this is mainly obivious when figthing rubric marines that are pure bolter sponges. Melee seemes to be the only realible way to kill Majoris.

[@TheFearsomeWaffle]

Agree with everything minus the melee is most reliable. Particularly if it is a Bulwark with a Power Sword. Power Swords on Ruthless and even Substantial are the same as Bolters. Worthless. So realistically the only reliable method is parry baiting into gun strike into execution. And that seems to be what most people not using a melta seem to do when I play.

[@Jester456]

​@@TheFearsomeWaffle pretty much. Las fusil and grenade launcher are also REALLY good. Scores above everything else. Plas pistol is reasonably solid, but burns through ammo super fast.

[@NotAsBadAsYourFace]

I guess my video prove that this gun need buff. Yeah like you said its I'm just use it for the sound an feels

[@ZzVinniezZ]

yeah im disappointed that the bolt gun which was said to be the most powerful weapon that space marines have...and yet Las rifle is way better (sniper) than a bolt sniper

[@NotAsBadAsYourFace]

@ZzVinniezZ naw man lore wise Bolt gun is mid but it's still .75 cal rpg

[@HelplessTeno]

This is actually a great showcase of how absolutely ridiculous the game balance is. There's no reason a lot of the heavier bolt weapons should be taking 30+ shots to kill Majoris enemies. The same can be said on Bulwark, it takes 3-5 sword swings to take down a single minoris enemy. There's better ways to do difficulty than nerfing player damage. It's incredibly frustrating that you're playing as a Space Marine that feels weaker than an ODST.

[@NotAsBadAsYourFace]

I just done playing under level Bulwark on Ruthless and I get your point. The power sword is so underpowered and can't kill the CSM and they just keep teleport away from you. It's faster to kill them with plasma pistol than going to melee

[@AppleBiscuits]

the darktide characters are gods of slaughter compared to anyone from this game, it's really confusing

[@LeadMetal82]

You think 3-5 sword swing is bad? Try playing as Assault. Unless you manage to get your initial ground pound high damage (Which, good luck doing that against a group of chaos space marines), Thunder hammer is so slow, it pretty much takes way longer to kill minoris than a power sword, even on max level. You pretty much HAVE TO rely on gunstrike if you wanna make Assault half as as useful as Bulwark. You are guaranteed to get cut at least 3 times by small minions, effectively losing nearly a bar of your armor or more before you manage to even swing ONCE. Full Aftershock is laughably slow, you're basically sitting ducks when charging while everyone around you eats up half your health.

[@HelplessTeno]

@@LeadMetal82 I was so excited for Assault before the game released. Sad they made it completely worthless.

[@DirtyObdi]

​@@LeadMetal82 hope you joking bc hammer best weapon in game who oneshoted majoris from one hold atack to low health if you use wrong perks its your trouble bro

[@JACKAL98]

Bolters need a damage buff asap

[@Gwynbleidd_117]

Nah certain enemies, namely minoris, need their HP adjusted. And that’s exactly what Saber has now said they are looking at thankfully.

[@tranvinhnhat1289]

Most Bolt guns need a buff. I understand the game balance but the bolt gun is very powerful piece of weapon in W40K universe

[@NotAsBadAsYourFace]

Buff would make them more fun to paly I'm sure most game I'm in they only run melta

[@echosierra9990]

The bolt gun shoots exploding AP rounds, which is why I don’t understand why they underperform so badly right now. It takes a mag dump to kill a chaos marine. I’m okay with the difficulty level, but the iconic space marine weapon needs a buff. Melta is great, but it’s somewhat hampered by its short range, plasma is good, but is hampered by overheating (so you can’t constantly fire). Bolt gun just feels underpowered. It’s a 50 BMG on steroids, with exploding bullets, and it should feel that way.

[@dunadan7136]

Half the bolters aren’t bad, the issue is half the players are using them stock and the other half just can’t aim Heavy Bolter at relic with all perks is an outright monster. Tons of ammo, very versatile, good damage output, pretty good effective range. Stalker Bolt Rifle isn’t bad too. Even the normal Bolt Rifle is actually very efficient at dispatching Chaos minoris enemies - one headshot kills a Tzaangor.

[@cali4806]

30 bullets to put a majoris to execute status, oof nah not for me

[@mjohnsimon1337]

Yeah, I don't care what people say. It shouldn't take 30 bolt rounds from a HEAVY Bolter of all things to kill a Warrior.

[@NotAsBadAsYourFace]

Agree those guy tank an APC rounds

[@cali4806]

The gun sounds good tho, i use it in pvp and performs really well in mid range fighting

[@PapaFenn]

I'll stick to my melta thank you very much lol

[@yaacheese8643]

@@mjohnsimon1337How tanky are warriors in the lore?

[@easymodegaming7334]

Didn’t watch the full video. Had to scan the first lone majoris and had to use literally 100 rounds and like a minute to kill the 2nd majoris. Hard passing that weapon. I was thinking about leveling that weapon to try it out. But thanks for saving my time with this video.

[@NotAsBadAsYourFace]

Glad my video help

[@clarencezer]

After farming what I needed on ruthless with the melta, I put it down and went back to minimal just to enjoy the other weapons. I love rocking this thing and laying suppressive fire but also have the accuracy when ads on it for farther much targets. I do hope they figure out something so I don't have to dump an entire mag on a majoris threat. Shit I was hoping they would flinch after 3-4 shots on them, at least for the ones that try to shoot you. Was hoping for the one carrying swords you could shoot it's legs to make it stumble.

[@NotAsBadAsYourFace]

@clarencezer the dev are listening I hope they adjust Bolter accordingly 🙏

[@CylinderHeadE60]

You can’t get me to use this one shooter when the bolt rifle with GL exists

[@NotAsBadAsYourFace]

I got flich more when I got shot with BB gun than a Nid in this game tank .75 cal RPG

[@Kevin-zz9du]

Getting sick of the damn Melta... they need to buff bolter weapons.....

[@NotAsBadAsYourFace]

@Kevin-zz9du I hope they adjust it accordingly next patch the different between solo run with melta and bolter are night and day different

[@michielschouten]

Same here! I want to play with boltweapons but the just dont do enough, and ends most of the runs in a wipe, or i get carried by the team.

[@NotAsBadAsYourFace]

@@michielschouten Yeah me too I hope Saber see this Video and consider giving some buff to Bolter

[@borntopwnyou]

The only bolter worth a damn is the stalker. Bolt rifle w/ grenade launcher doesn't count because the actual gun part of the gun is still bad.

[@johncarter1297]

Love the build man. I just usually run the plasma rifle it is a really good gun and does great damage for boss fights.

[@NotAsBadAsYourFace]

I'm nealy done all the weapon just need plasma and auto bolter to be gold. Yes plasma rifle is a really good gun

[@johncarter1297]

@@NotAsBadAsYourFace Yeah I was using the Bolt Rifle for the longest time just need to finish it in relic as well. But my Plasma is maxed. Then I worked on the heavy…..cough “Melta Rifle”. Insanely stupid broken, and makes the characters really easy to use in my opinion.

[@NotAsBadAsYourFace]

@@johncarter1297 I really hope they don't nerf Melta just buff Bolter a bit make it more "fun"to use 30+ bullets headshot to kill one guy isnt fun

[@johncarter1297]

@@NotAsBadAsYourFace I fully agree if they start nerfing guns instead of buffing the ones that ain’t viable they can lose fallowing, like HellDivers did. And I don’t want that to happen I put nearly 100 hours into this game and will put way more. Mostly cause trying to get all the achievements lol.

[@adam346]

Bolters are good for mob clearing and the shorty version is fine for blitzing down individual majoris enemies but otherwise Plasma/Melta for them. Heavy bolter is great for mob clearing at a distance... and frankly one of my fav in the game but otherwise I feel they are somewhat lack-luster.

[@NotAsBadAsYourFace]

@@adam346 some tweak needed for sure

[@slyllamademon2652]

Looks like he’s running deathwatch ravenguard.

[@NotAsBadAsYourFace]

Yes I was trying to create Deathwatch Ravenguard veteran lieutenant! Is his color scheme lore acute?

[@marktrader4205]

I think they could fix all this by just tweaking the headshot multiplier

[@JasielMartini]

3:17 Absolutely NO REASON why it should've taken 10 shots to kill that minoris enemy. THAT right there is the main issue with weapons, especially bolters. They are bolters. They're supposed to destroy minor enemies in a single shot. And they don't.

[@NotAsBadAsYourFace]

@JasielMartini if it's wasn't headshot yeah I need to improve my aim

[@JasielMartini]

@@NotAsBadAsYourFace And even so, you hit a lot of body shots. Shouldn't take more than 2 shots anywhere to put the little guys down imo.

[@alannguyen5452]

Bolt gun dame too low, 5-6 rounds for mini @@ ... its fun to shoot but not fun to play

[@arktheball]

I think the real deal is that bolters should casually mulch minoris. Gaunts and Gants should never take more than 2 hits to kill with a bolt weapon. Just like the cultists who die by getting walked through or die to any bolt weapon hitting them, the Gaunts/Gants should die after being shot twice. Im coming around to the general durability of the majoris (although I agree that the Chaos Marines are still too durable) as per the fluff and tabletop, Marines are durable, but not to bolter fire. Las weapons and autoguns/stubbers should bounce like rubber for the most part, but not bolters. Bolters should do great, but still take some work to drop a marine or a Tyranid warrior (which are way tougher than MEQ in the tabletop game, and are at minimum, equivalent in the fluff)

[@mcmarkmarkson7115]

Bolter sure needs a buff, its way too weak

[@adam346]

Heavy bolter rifle reads like the LMG version of the Heavy Bolter.. in which it's great for clearing mobs quick and so-so for dealing with elites. Not sure if you should skip the increased pen (doesn't seem to do much tbh) and go for increased dmg or ammo cap + reload given it's mostly useful on mobs. My go-to for elites is chain-sword/fencer.

[@NotAsBadAsYourFace]

@adam346 yes the 25% throught shielded 🛡 nids doesn't do shit when you got to mag dump each every single one of them with head shot anyway

[@Crusher888]

Bolters need a huge buff…

[@NotAsBadAsYourFace]

What real life space marine doing in my comment?

[@echosierra9990]

Haven’t leveled up the heavy bolt rifle, but it looks like it underperforms compared to the regular bolt gun.

[@NotAsBadAsYourFace]

@echosierra9990 work fine with small guy but the big guy just need to land all the headshots

[@NotAsBadAsYourFace]

@echosierra9990 this wasn't a "meta" build I thought it's was funny to have double penatration perk gigity

[@Elthenar]

It does. Even without the grenade launcher option, the regular bolt gun hits harder shot per shot. It's accurate too.

[@kerviuskuroshiba5120]

Peeps complaining about Bolt guns which is fine. I call it "Lore Accurate" 😅🤣

[@viktor1master]

I loved my whole 20 lvl cuz i used only bolter heavy but after tasting plazma its far more useful Vs elites” cuz in hordes you must focus mostly on the biggest enemies but i would love some buff for bolters👀

[@l-shadow1775]

Bolt weapons should tear through tyranids and tzeentch demons/heratics like knife through butter while the thousand sons should be spongy against bolt weapons but weak against plasma just like in space marine 1 you're fighting orks that get shredded by bolter fire but once chaos demons and space marines come into play you have to get some plasma weapons to deal with them saber better balance space marine 2 correctly

[@xXOPxLunaXx]

I really wish emperor's vengeance restored the ammo to reserves. Instead of simply returning the magazine. The way it's worded too makes it seem like it should return it to the reserves too. Really odd perk.

[@NotAsBadAsYourFace]

@xXOPxLunaXx I put fate in these dev they seem in touch with the community and they do love warhammer 40k. I hope these game will be treated right

[@MrKylljoy]

In lore heavy bolters can pierce space marines armor, but a tyrannid warrior can tank 30 bullets to the head in this game, hmmm. Really make you think, lol

[@NotAsBadAsYourFace]

I will mag dump on them till they patch

[@eituyn]

Half a magazine to kill two minoris without headshots. What a joke. Saber, focus or whoever made this game, buff bolt rifles/carbines/snipers already, please. Thanks for making the vid!

[@NotAsBadAsYourFace]

@eituyn I hope saber buff it 10% - 20% aross all bolt weapon excluding pistol it's already feels good. And nerf bolt rifle gl ammo gain a bit I think it would make bolt weapon feel better to use across the board

[@Hizoll]

DP!

[@NotAsBadAsYourFace]

DP!!!!!!

[@prich0382]

It already has 4 Penetration, haveing 6 pen doesn't make much of a difference

[@ApophiS196]

Bravo 👏

[@leesaggers6509]

The problem is the grenade launcher will get nerfed aswell as its not even a bolter its just a grenade launcher i brt they remove the reload feature from the grenades and only let the perks work with the bullets

[@NotAsBadAsYourFace]

@@leesaggers6509 I really don't follow the new I don't even know when the patch gonna come

[@echosierra9990]

@@leesaggers6509 then they’d have to do the same to the plasma gun, as it also only has one “magazine” that will fully reload with the perk, to 180, if you have specced correctly.

[@leesaggers6509]

@echosierra9990 well not really the grenade launcher is an auxiliary firing mode at this point the bolter it is attached to is useless if a grenade attachment makes a huge section of the guns useless they will just change the way you generate grenades instead of making every other bolt weapon stronger I mean I'm just speculating here they might leave it I'm just relying on the grenade launcher and the meltas could be about dodgy as they may get hit with the nerf bat

[@beowulf_of_wall_st]

that's some nice dakka

[@NotAsBadAsYourFace]

DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA !!

[@justaguy8212]

People in the comments talking about the damage of every weapon is too balanced? But the game movement forces u to think and be picky with your movement because your not very mobile just get good and slow down and take your time instead of rushing in

[@MunKDaDDyy]

Wtf does movement have to do with people being mad that it takes 40 bullets to drop a single enemy when you only get like 200 total. jUSt gEt gOOd hEHe i sAiD tHe ThINg iM a pRo gAMeR 🤡

[@bigboi7817]

Honestly bro they never make bolters good. I remember people glazing darktides bolter but its literally dogshit. Its literally an assault rifle for giants with explosive rounds why is it always so fucking sad?

[@bleepsy]

In fairness, it's bad in Darktide for other reasons. It does crazy high damage against single targets or crowds but it's super unwieldy and ammo inefficient. It doesn't lack punch too badly.

[@Jester456]

Darktide Boltguns are devastating, what you on about? Their limitations are difficulty to wield and ammo capacity. The things that would actually be negatives about them.

[@bigboi7817]

@@Jester456 bro the autoguns are literally just better than the bolter for everything but carapace. Even then the bolter sucks because the revolver and plasma exist. The bolter sucks so bad its not funny. If you were any good you wouldnt be defending bolter.

[@ygorschuma3059]

You should've seen the Kraken Bolter in Space Marine 1, literally two entire mags spent into one Chaos Marine, just for them to walk back into cover, regen their armor all the while their squad mates fill you with holes.

[@mcmarkmarkson7115]

It was good in space marine 1

[@kulogatsu]

In case anyone doesn't know, the "penetration" of this game is that bullets will explode and attack additional nearby targets.

[@NotAsBadAsYourFace]

@@kulogatsu anywhere I can read that?

[@Elthenar]

@@NotAsBadAsYourFace Yes, right in game. When you mouse over the penetration stat it tells you that it's your chance to penetrate and hit other targets.

[@ZHBraden13]

No, I'm very sure it means it will pass through and hit enemies behind them. Its why the snipers weapons like the Sniper Bolt gun and the Las fusil have extremely high penetration stats and I've got multiple head shots on Majoris enemies with the Las fusil.

[@NotAsBadAsYourFace]

@@ZHBraden13 yes it's also feels like that in game

[@thepunisherxxx6804]

Great gameplay. LOVE the Bolter guns but they are just so bad. The Tactical can literally use anything though with Auspex and the parry granting mark on target. Hate how lame some of the perks are too like dealing more damage when below 30% health. Shouldn't be incentivizing players to take more damage intentionally. Same with things like 25% damage against blocking targets. Doesn't happen that often and you burn so much ammo trying to utilize that perk. They should all feel close to the Stalker Bolt Rifle in terms of effectiveness. Feels like they need a 20% damage buff across the board along with an extra magazine by default. Its crazy its one of the most iconic Warhammer weapon types and most of them feel just so underwelming. I still use them because the game is incredibly fun and class perks can make up for it, but man when you actually play with good weapons afterward the game is like night and day.

[@NotAsBadAsYourFace]

@@thepunisherxxx6804 I just done solo no ho lost just pure torture 😭

[@thepunisherxxx6804]

@@NotAsBadAsYourFace I've been getting disconnected mid mission a lot lately it sucks :( Never had issues with that until very recently.

[@NotAsBadAsYourFace]

@thepunisherxxx6804 hopefully it will get fix for the better upcoming patch I'm getting better performance from 3.1 so far

[@danightryder]

God that gun is bad like most bolters. I want to like it buy I can’t

[@UKAndrewL]

So is this better than using the nornal bolt gun? It looks better, im leveling tactical marine next

[@NotAsBadAsYourFace]

@@UKAndrewL you better off with bolt rifle with gl if you want to play bolt weapon

[@UKAndrewL]

@NotAsBadAsYourFace oh man I meant bolt rifle. A lot of bolt weapons to remember lol.

[@Reaver102]

How's it work against shielded tzaangors?

[@NotAsBadAsYourFace]

Those guy need the Heavy Bolter 😂

[@iamhuffman]

​@@NotAsBadAsYourFace even the heavy bolter gets the shielded icon 😢

[@Jester456]

Damned OP vibranium lesser demon shields...

[@NotAsBadAsYourFace]

@@Jester456 Those ittle guy can tank APC Rounds hahhaahaha

[@PapaFenn]

Just parry them, kill the unshielded ones then parry the shielded ones

[@rprlunn93]

Dude gotta respec and use his abilities and perks. And visit a shooting range. Bolters are for precision shots but you acting like its a light machine gun. Makes them look bad

[@NotAsBadAsYourFace]

@@rprlunn93 bro it's a joke build 😂 DP yes I will be better

[@MichaelOCallaghan-bm9pr]

Instead of wasting so many bullets on small enemies, Aim for the head

[@NotAsBadAsYourFace]

@@MichaelOCallaghan-bm9pr you mean less Dakka? 😟

[@nobodysbusiness2178]

lol that is so insanely bad why even post it like 25 head shot to bring down the lowest hp version of majoris

[@NotAsBadAsYourFace]

Like roadside accidents, you just can't look away

[@rocknessmonster2540]

Yeah not impressed with the bolt guns at all, Ill stick to my heavy and multi melta.

[@NotAsBadAsYourFace]

@rocknessmonster2540 play what fun for you, brother 💪

[@stardragoon9250]

Close too full magazine in 1 Tyranid warrior...you are joking..this 2x penetration it is a JOKE...this trash game require full FIX BALANCE for weapons and class mechanics.....PvP need much more balance...