Space Marine 2 - Heavy Class Is DANGEROUS! | Solo Max Heavy | Max Difficulty Gameplay

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@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS 28 күн бұрын
Hey everyone! Livid here again! Just like our other vids, it's in-depth insight time regarding the Heavy class in Space Marine 2. Upfront, I'll just say that the Heavy honestly needs to be in a team of players. It's a slower class, seems to have tighter parry windows, and is very susceptible to getting overwhelmed by both trash mobs and elites. You absolutely want to have other players creating space between you and the enemies, because that's where you truly shine. As soon as you get a massive horde on you out of nowhere, as you see in this video, the Heavy really goes into panic mode and you're left dodge rolling for your life trying to create just enough space to enter heavy stance and clear out the wave that is after you. The reason for this is when hip firing, you fire much much slower and clearing even basic Hormagaunts can be really tedious. When in heavy stance, you gain a much higher rate of fire and more damage via perks, but you lose the ability to counter and dodge at a moments notice. Additionally, heavy stance builds heat fast, where as hip firing can basically be done till you run out of ammo. Understanding when to use each of these modes, or when to switch to your sidearm really matters when you're under pressure. The heavy bolter is very strong at range where you can lay down suppressive fire on the swarms around your team. The Heavy Plasma Incinerator is great at lobbing shots into hordes and killing them quickly before they notice you, but really struggles when you're under pressure, more so than the heavy bolter. Lastly, the multi-melta can clear massive waves of trash mobs in a pinch, but can also pack a punch on elite enemies as well. We only showcase the Heavy Bolter here, but rest assured, both other weapons are entirely viable. Also don't sleep on your secondary, especially if it's the Plasma Pistol. This thing helps stagger and break elite's blocking stances, do massive damage to Zoanthropes, and help quickly stop elites from calling for help at a significant distance. Understanding when to use your sidearm to soften targets or outright send them into execution state will help you massively conserve your Primary ammo. I've found myself getting low on ammo before, but never once have I ran out when ensuring Im embracing my secondary weapon and executions/counters. Now when it comes to your ability, Iron Halo, there are a couple things to keep in mind. While active, it will drain charge, but if you deactivate it, you'll begin recharging from wherever you did so. This is important because when it comes to team buffs, Iron Halo provides 10% damage reduction against ranged attacks to all teammates in a 50 meter radius, but if they are standing behind the bubble, you can also block several, really strong ranged attacks entirely before it depletes. This is crucial for moments when a horde hits and there is a ton of ranged damage flying at you, or when later dealing with Chaos. You can also further this helpful ability by picking perks like Conversion Field, which makes it so all squad members within 100 meters regenerate their ability charge 50% faster. Having a heavy on your team helps Snipers cloak more often, Tacticals use Auspex Scan on more enemies, and all around helps keep essential abilities online for when shit hits the fan. Overall the Heavy class is extremely defensive, and while it my really struggle solo compared to some other classes, that concern basically goes out the window when in a group, so don't write this class off as "not meta" or something. Every class is extremely viable in this game, and your success largely depends on your skill and proficiency with the games various systems.
@requiemagent3014
@requiemagent3014 28 күн бұрын
No solo capabilities is a hard pass. Every top tier class needs to be able to finish everything solo. Playing with others is a nice bonus but if you cannot carry then the class clearly fails the test. If you barely can solo an operation that just isn't it
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS 27 күн бұрын
@@requiemagent3014 Eh, disagree with that. Game has matchmaking for operations, and this class can likely perform much better against Chaos. Don't write off a class or call it weak just because it struggles a bit trying to solo when the game isnt designed around soloing.
@vik1837
@vik1837 27 күн бұрын
Nice job Livid! These are fun to watch and even better to anticipate jumping in next month!
@requiemagent3014
@requiemagent3014 27 күн бұрын
@@LegacyGamingUS I don't see how this is relevant. A class that can solo is obviously even better in team combs. The fact that sniper had an easier time in solo then heavy tells you everything you need to know. Stick with the stuff that works. Don't be a hipster who wants to force stuff to work because he likes the class or whatever. Viability is a huge factor in games like this. My eyes are super focused on Tactical and Sniper with Bulwark as support. I can already tell this is the meta. Don't waste your time and resources on the three other classes that get left in the dust. Sidenote matchmaking is the worst. It's full of bots. Just because a human controls the character doesn't mean it isn't a bot. More often than not I take AI over some people in the general player base
@AllegedlySomebody
@AllegedlySomebody 27 күн бұрын
Gotta say i really do appreciate all the high quality videos! I honestly hadn't thought id be interested at all in playing the heavy but this video in particular makes me actually wanna give it a proper shot. I imagine with even a single real person doing anything at all to help clear space and take out elites (sniper doming warriors or an assault with a thunderhammer doing the infinite light combo, or maybe even just a tactical with a melta stagger-locking anything smaller than a carnifex) so the heavy can focus on clearing out chaff then hordes of enemies will likely be entirely trivialized. I definitely feel that that will more than make up for the fact that its not quite as good at soloing things or clutching out of a tight situation
@ULTIMATZEKROM
@ULTIMATZEKROM 28 күн бұрын
"You would resist a badge of honor?" "Keeping my Brothers alive is the only honor I require." What an absolute gigachad.
@bonjoviburneraccount8148
@bonjoviburneraccount8148 28 күн бұрын
lore accurate Salamander
@prabytqpking4621
@prabytqpking4621 27 күн бұрын
Dare i say sigmachad
@KoreanSpy1997
@KoreanSpy1997 27 күн бұрын
​@prabytqpking4621 wrong universe though lol
@vycial
@vycial 27 күн бұрын
@@prabytqpking4621underrated
@roachy72
@roachy72 27 күн бұрын
omegachad nay, the OMNIchad
@nekomancer4641
@nekomancer4641 27 күн бұрын
"Your battle awareness is impeccable brother. How do you hone those instincts?" "By reducing all unnecessary chatter." "...ah, understood." 25:42
@Ian501st
@Ian501st 27 күн бұрын
Brother😂
@vantagecontrol
@vantagecontrol 27 күн бұрын
“My battle awareness would be less effective without your aug-spec talents.” “We make a good team.” 🍷🗿
@nekomancer4641
@nekomancer4641 27 күн бұрын
@@vantagecontrol the tsundere salamander battle brother ☠
@AnonymousVenator
@AnonymousVenator 25 күн бұрын
@@nekomancer4641 That is such a CURSED sentence
@nekomancer4641
@nekomancer4641 25 күн бұрын
@@AnonymousVenator will do you one worse: "battle oniichan"
@eyasluna2303
@eyasluna2303 28 күн бұрын
I like how the personality of heavy, few words, big hearts, makes me think he is an imperial fist marine rather than a blueberry
@sheeptheshawn240
@sheeptheshawn240 28 күн бұрын
Pretty sure that's a salamander he be playing as
@ethanr3480
@ethanr3480 27 күн бұрын
@@sheeptheshawn240the personality of the class stays the same despite changing the scheme or chapter
@RyanM92
@RyanM92 27 күн бұрын
nah thats a dark angel ​@@sheeptheshawn240
@sovietshark8837
@sovietshark8837 27 күн бұрын
@@ethanr3480sadness wish personality changed with each different chapter
@serbianspartan9304
@serbianspartan9304 27 күн бұрын
@@RyanM92it’s a salamander im pretty sure as the green is brighter then dark angels green
@samcook9542
@samcook9542 27 күн бұрын
these dudes grinding out max level characters and weapons with only 2 missions available to them.....are the real heroes.
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS 27 күн бұрын
We just love Warhammer 40k, so even though having only 2 missions gets repetitive, we're still having a blast haha.
@FUNFUN_101
@FUNFUN_101 27 күн бұрын
@@LegacyGamingUS preciate you guys 🤙🏼
@isucktoesbaby
@isucktoesbaby 27 күн бұрын
​@@LegacyGamingUSlooking forward to watching you guys throughout my space marine 2 career, keep it up
@big_tasty1
@big_tasty1 27 күн бұрын
acting like theyre not getting paid for playing a game...
@sladeskirata1211
@sladeskirata1211 27 күн бұрын
@@LegacyGamingUS what i was concerned about but glad to hear its still enjoyable
@Chrisorr
@Chrisorr 27 күн бұрын
Salamander: Has anyone seen my heavy flamer? Blood Raven: Hippity Hoppity I stole your fcking property
@gutspepe211
@gutspepe211 27 күн бұрын
Bolt. Everything. Down
@peterb8904
@peterb8904 25 күн бұрын
​@gutspepe211 To late they already stole all the bolts
@TrenchCoatDingo
@TrenchCoatDingo 22 күн бұрын
Blood ravens kleptomania is so bad they steal genes from the tyranids.
@foxdavion6865
@foxdavion6865 15 күн бұрын
Salamander: *sigh*
@manimustermann749
@manimustermann749 5 күн бұрын
@@gutspepe211 Bolter. Everything. Down
@Hattori_F
@Hattori_F 28 күн бұрын
Is this the only channel with players that can actually play this game with some skill?
@harrineun5594
@harrineun5594 28 күн бұрын
i thought i was the only one thinking this bro some people are so bad 😭
@Darkwater1886
@Darkwater1886 28 күн бұрын
Yes
@crusherzilla3036
@crusherzilla3036 28 күн бұрын
This channel and Gameriot are the ones covering the game the most. Gameriot just happens to be very casual about the game it seems.
@TaintedChimp
@TaintedChimp 28 күн бұрын
@@Hattori_F Ikr, keep watching other KZbinrs play but get bored in 2 minutes because they aren't nearly as good as these guys.
@AnonYmous-hj1tb
@AnonYmous-hj1tb 28 күн бұрын
Apparently, yes. And it's more a matter of basic motor functions than skill really. That other guy choosing melee classes and engaging exclusively with the dinky pistol really rubbed my autism the wrong way every single video
@jessc3007
@jessc3007 27 күн бұрын
Basically soloing those Zoanthropes around 8:00 then leaving a melta as a present for those Warriors before jumping down was sick as hell.
@pitied3744
@pitied3744 8 күн бұрын
straight out of a book
@evilduck44
@evilduck44 27 күн бұрын
that perfect parry to finish off the hive tyrant was sensational!
@Gaiya94
@Gaiya94 26 күн бұрын
Absolute cinema
@TTVArcPhoenix
@TTVArcPhoenix 27 күн бұрын
Legion Chapters Heavy- Salamanders Bulwark- Dark Angels Assault- Blood Angels Tactical- Either Ultramarines or Imperial Fist Vanguard- Space Wolves Sniper- Raven Guard
@superlex2000
@superlex2000 13 күн бұрын
Approve
@josephward2484
@josephward2484 8 күн бұрын
Im all for some space wolves
@tonywizdard1531
@tonywizdard1531 27 күн бұрын
3:00 what badass dialogue
@krelekari
@krelekari 28 күн бұрын
cant help but think this'd go CRAAAAZY with a flamer, IF WE HAD ONE
@felygu9268
@felygu9268 27 күн бұрын
In one trailer Titus wields one in the campaign mode. Pretty sure we will get some flamers, at least there. Maybe it is a balancing issue in coop pve.
@radguy72
@radguy72 27 күн бұрын
If this game does well/is as good as it looks, doesn't have glaring issues etc. then I have to imagine we'll get more classes and weapons in the future. I'd be ecstatic if they added one!
@arkcantoscreampsnpc7274
@arkcantoscreampsnpc7274 27 күн бұрын
⁠@@felygu9268there was 1 flamer variant in one of the videos I saw so we get at least 1
@Benthesniperof8
@Benthesniperof8 27 күн бұрын
I've played the whole campaign and leaked build of the game since early July. There is a flamer in the campaign as a mission specific tool. It wasn't that good at actually killing enemies in said mission. I didn't see a flamer in the coop or multiplayer weapon line up for any of the classes. It might be a future weapon they add to the multiplayer side of the game eventually.
@thinkingonyx847
@thinkingonyx847 27 күн бұрын
@@Benthesniperof8 What were your thoughts on the game (without spoilers)? Are you still going to buy it even though you've played the leaked build?
@ourlordandsavioredupes4102
@ourlordandsavioredupes4102 28 күн бұрын
I feel it needs quite a bit more ammo The fact you don’t have melee you should be able to rely on your heavy bolter for most encounters IMO
@RED_Theory038
@RED_Theory038 27 күн бұрын
Looks a bit weak in general. Noticing how often they get surrounded and need to roll a ton out of the way before they can finally be safe enough to pop off a little.
@TheDragonKnight98
@TheDragonKnight98 27 күн бұрын
Heavy Bolter needs a buff undoubtedly the number of times you have to rely on secondary instead of the Heavy Bolter is not good, The Devs should take note. Each class needs to be viable when you're playing solo. You're a Space Marine it's very important for the game to deliver in giving you that Power Fantasy experience instead of desperately dodging out of the horde's way when they are relentlessly coming at you.
@darthplagueis13
@darthplagueis13 27 күн бұрын
The ammo thing is much worse on the multi-melta. The Bolter could use more dps but at least you can shoot for a while without running out.
@6Alucard6Tepes6
@6Alucard6Tepes6 27 күн бұрын
I will definitely agree or at least alow him to use a knife melee like ogryn in darktide sure ogryn can use more than just a knife however the best setup is with combat knife anyways yeah the heavy guns definitely need more ammo. And i have mixed feelings about the shield I feel like it should last just a Lil longer but at the same time don't make it last too long cause of pvp.
@ImpendingApotheosis
@ImpendingApotheosis 25 күн бұрын
Maybe it's just me, but this class kinda looks like it sucks. The second more than 4 of the little cunts surround you, the game just turns into rolling simulator lmao
@DARKSHYNO
@DARKSHYNO 28 күн бұрын
The more i see of the game the more i want to play it
@zzzzzzzzzzzzzz1984
@zzzzzzzzzzzzzz1984 14 күн бұрын
"Forgive me father for I have committed heresy, Today I hit my brother with a heavy bolter shell" "Oh that is a grave sin indeed, was he slain? "No father, he giggled, but I still felt bad"
@dannyavarice
@dannyavarice 27 күн бұрын
That was the most cinematic finish to this boss fight I've seen. The perfect dodge plasma shot as it clips to black. That was awesome. Great content Legacy, keep the film rolling. I can't wait to wreak glorious carnage in the Emperor's name. Victorus aut Mortis!
@Jamoc_NZ
@Jamoc_NZ 27 күн бұрын
You can see around 12-14 when things get hectic inside with swarms where the Heavy class struggles a bit and a whole lot of rolling is needed in order to make room for yourself to better utilize the Heavy's weaponry. Great to see the examples of the pros/cons of each class you guys are bringing and the thorough comment you provide re your insights. Great work team. Looking forward to your Bulwark insights as that is the class I think I'm most excited about. Haven't been looking forward to a games release this much for ages
@6Alucard6Tepes6
@6Alucard6Tepes6 27 күн бұрын
It's more like strategic placement and the shield definitely needs to last longer in a fight I noticed it doesn't take much to destroy the shield heavy is supposed to be a tank dps but anyways I get why things are the way they are it's because it's meant to be a teamwork game even if it's with just npc.
@foob420
@foob420 27 күн бұрын
Something about the running animation and sound of the power armor stomping around is just so insanely good.
@vitrian
@vitrian 28 күн бұрын
Now you are a devastator, brother.
@ShahbazBokhari
@ShahbazBokhari 27 күн бұрын
Luke Stephens is still talking shite about “weak classes”, meanwhile legacy gaming just buttering ‘Nid biscuits solo with every class.
@bencureton
@bencureton 27 күн бұрын
Sometimes you have to get past level 3 to see what a class can really do. =)
@TheAdoringFan
@TheAdoringFan 27 күн бұрын
Luke Stephens is a full time bad take haver
@maltheri9833
@maltheri9833 25 күн бұрын
Luke has had some good takes and bad ones. I haven't played the game so I can say whether this is a guy making a mid class look good or showing even the best it can do. I won't play it often because the no melee just doesn't seem like a good tradeoff
@TheAdoringFan
@TheAdoringFan 21 күн бұрын
@@maltheri9833 my thoughts exactly. The melee is too fun in the first game to ignore, and it seems even better in this one
@unnero1
@unnero1 28 күн бұрын
I kinda feel like they missed it with the Heavy. Yes he does a lot of ranged damage but you run of ammo fast and running around witha sidearm is... meh to say the least. He definietly should have some melee option or even better, have a standard bolter and use it in one hand, since he has the heavier armor. He should be a walking tank.
@Solkard
@Solkard 27 күн бұрын
Yeah, I think he would be better if they gave him a melee option, but not a sidearm. There were several times where he was either entirely reliant on triggering counters or running away from even the most basic of melee units, when they ran up on him.
@Ally5141
@Ally5141 27 күн бұрын
Using heavy weapon as a makeshift melee weapon, with wide sweeps would be cool.
@LochVandral
@LochVandral 27 күн бұрын
@@Ally5141 I'm pretty sure that is in fact a thing in the game, I was wondering why he didn't do it more when being chased by only a few little guys. Heavy even has a giant double super-stomp from some clips I've seen.
@xuragentofthenine4402
@xuragentofthenine4402 27 күн бұрын
His heavy stomp is really good CC when caught in melee, it took me awhile to figure out, but you mainly want to use its aoe to get breathing room in hoards. I can agree with you on his poor ammo economy with the heavy bolter.
@SilasKeon
@SilasKeon 27 күн бұрын
Wish they added the Aggressors. Chunky lads with two power fisters and boltstorm gauntlets, pair that up with the mounted grenade launcher on their backs. Maybe even using Firestorm flamers.
@Darkwater1886
@Darkwater1886 28 күн бұрын
Finally!! I've been dying to see a good player use heavy.
@KrakenBolter
@KrakenBolter 28 күн бұрын
Heavy bolter needs a buff imo. It's too weak against elite enemies because it lacks armor piercing which is why plasma pistol has to be used. The drawbacks are already enough in mobility and needing to get into heavy stance. First space marine game heavy bolter was better balanced since it out DPS every other weapon by a huge margin but only while braced. I saw one of the weapon upgrades where it added +2 piercing maybe that would make it more viable.
@derjoghurtmitderecke
@derjoghurtmitderecke 28 күн бұрын
Heavy focuses on crowd control. And as you can see he does exactly that superior to all other classes.
@Whitehead1945
@Whitehead1945 27 күн бұрын
a i thought the same
@matt_c4295
@matt_c4295 27 күн бұрын
​@derjoghurtmitderecke yes, but you still need to kill the crowd, not just control it.
@elgnarfowo2678
@elgnarfowo2678 27 күн бұрын
No way we already asking for buffs when the game didn't even drop. Besides of that the heavy bolter is heavily focused on horde clear not elite clear, it having effortlessly deal with both options would be way to good
@jackvinn
@jackvinn 27 күн бұрын
The game isn't even out yet. Settle down
@brentreimer6411
@brentreimer6411 25 күн бұрын
If they add a Chaplain and a Librarian class, I think I'd forget what the sun looks like
@sammcclain7532
@sammcclain7532 27 күн бұрын
I just realized, they should have a similar mission mode in the operations section like they do with Darktide. The hardest missions are Auric missions. They could do something similar and call them deathwatch missions, since they’re comprised of the best Space Marines. Or the Deathwatch missions could be raids of sort like in Destiny. I got all these ideas mayne lol
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS 27 күн бұрын
Yep, we hope they go that direction and add more difficulties/modifiers over time.
@seri4lkinder666
@seri4lkinder666 28 күн бұрын
I wish they add terminator armour in the game
@MrBlingJatt
@MrBlingJatt 27 күн бұрын
Or make seperate terminator class
@marducms
@marducms 27 күн бұрын
Terminators are first company. These smurfs are from the second company. And the fact that they should be stronger then the rest of classes.
@richardthomas5122
@richardthomas5122 27 күн бұрын
I'm sure they will in an upfate
@6Alucard6Tepes6
@6Alucard6Tepes6 27 күн бұрын
You mean hope they will?
@marducms
@marducms 26 күн бұрын
It's probable because it's a fan favorite.
@hassandabo6288
@hassandabo6288 26 күн бұрын
Legacy, you're like the ONLY youtube as of this moment that actually plays the game properly, we have game riot who only spams dodgerolls and we have other youtubers playing as if they've never touched a third person shooter before let alone actually know about WH40k. You make me super excited to play the game while the others make me stray away. Might we perhaps be blessed with another Ravenguard Sniper video in the future 🙏
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS 25 күн бұрын
Access is being cutoff soon before the review version goes live, so the grind will need to begin again. We have a few more things coming before that happens.
@DerAlteU96
@DerAlteU96 28 күн бұрын
Need Assault. Hammertime. Thanks for your work!
@ramirmaldonado8613
@ramirmaldonado8613 28 күн бұрын
developers should made terminator armor, i hope they include terminator armor in the future. But i have to say, IM REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS GAME!!!!
@Crispyboi19
@Crispyboi19 28 күн бұрын
I would assume they make terminator a separate class
@derjoghurtmitderecke
@derjoghurtmitderecke 28 күн бұрын
Terminator will, if being added, a separate class of course.
@ramirmaldonado8613
@ramirmaldonado8613 28 күн бұрын
@@Crispyboi19 fingers crossed!!!!
@christianblair8663
@christianblair8663 27 күн бұрын
Could be in the campaign. Terminator, if they make it lore accurate, would be pretty damn OP in co-op mode.
@ramirmaldonado8613
@ramirmaldonado8613 27 күн бұрын
@@christianblair8663 lets hope so, or a game mode inside a space hulk would be cool too!!!!, but im asking too much, 😂
@danielchalmers9815
@danielchalmers9815 27 күн бұрын
i really feel like the heavy should step dodge instead of roll
@triage2962
@triage2962 19 күн бұрын
If you think about it...a 3m Giant in Powerarmor with a Backpack rolling around should be physically impossible. Game Devs: He rolls like a Ball!
@dramaticmudderer5208
@dramaticmudderer5208 12 күн бұрын
​@@triage2962space Marines aren't just powerful because of the armor, they have augments, power armor increases it even more, they can definitely roll
@triage2962
@triage2962 12 күн бұрын
@@dramaticmudderer5208 Strap a Dektop PC chase on your back and try to roll. The only thing you will find out is how a turtle feels lying on its back. And the other thing is if they roll like that, their powerpack will be crushed. Physics are not present in this game.
@cheapwine3365
@cheapwine3365 12 күн бұрын
It's a welcome change for me, I didn't care for the step dodge in SM1 even if it made sense.
@draketurtle4169
@draketurtle4169 9 күн бұрын
@@triage2962their backpacks are small nuclear reactors (basically) that power their armour. The backpacks are durable, very durable otherwise they’d be a massive weakness since if you compromised it the marine is stranded like a tortoise on its back. Like your best bet of capturing a marine is removing or disabling the backpack but good luck doing that.
@MandoJAGG
@MandoJAGG 28 күн бұрын
Not having access to a melee weapon makes me think the heavy bolters damage needs to be buffed slightly, at least for PvE, that reliance on the plasma pistol is worrying. It's still early days though so who knows really.
@andriy_tato
@andriy_tato 27 күн бұрын
The way it is encourages weapon switching depending on the situation.
@Connordaboss45
@Connordaboss45 25 күн бұрын
​@@andriy_tatothat's what machinegunners were known for...using their handgun
@draketurtle4169
@draketurtle4169 9 күн бұрын
@@Connordaboss45to be fair that “hand gun” is like having a 120mm artillery gun in your hand…. I do agree the heavy boltor seems underwhelming against larger targets but a plasma pistol ain’t no joke like the bolt pistol.
@siclatic7241
@siclatic7241 27 күн бұрын
In another life, Livid IS a Space Marine
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS 27 күн бұрын
I've been waiting for more 40K goodness in the gaming space for a long time haha
@Sixth_SSense
@Sixth_SSense 27 күн бұрын
Really hope they add a flamer for the salamander main's
@hermitjayt
@hermitjayt 27 күн бұрын
Probably a class that benefits the most from prior knowledge.
@SinOfAugust
@SinOfAugust 27 күн бұрын
I don’t know how I feel about watching a Nid Warrior eat 4 heavy plasma shots and not be a glowing, charred crater. Or 3 MultiMelta blasts… I guess you need to play on a lowest difficulty to see weapons work as intended. Higher difficulty seems to increase bullet sponginess of everything, which is a low effort way to mediate difficulty.
@RoballTV
@RoballTV 27 күн бұрын
After watching a few of these vids, 'your boy Livid' is a true Space Marine at his core. ^^
@Aetheriaxx
@Aetheriaxx 27 күн бұрын
This is definitely the most competent heavy gameplay I've seen thus far. This is my most anticipated class to try, so thanks for showing it off properly. On the other hand I noticed in some of the swarm sections Heavy started spam rolling instead of utilizing the stomp. Is this more effective than stunning the enemies with the AOE stomp and then opening fire? Or was this just a panic response?
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS 27 күн бұрын
Issue with the stomp is to get a good chunk of damage in Ruthless, you need to charge it. Yes I could knock things back, but it will not kill them and I'll constantly be taking significant damage from the surrounding units after the stomp. I'd overall lose more health/armor doing that. Keep in mind, when you have 2 bots, AI aggro focuses on you. In an actual team, this becomes more realistic of a maneuver.
@Aetheriaxx
@Aetheriaxx 27 күн бұрын
@@LegacyGamingUS Thanks for the insight, ill definitely have to test it out for myself. I can hardly wait to play. The emperor protects.
@Soggyfrontal
@Soggyfrontal 27 күн бұрын
This man going solo makes this look incredibly easy I’m very worried about it
@renatoperocchio4508
@renatoperocchio4508 23 күн бұрын
That's my fear, if this is solo max difficulty then 3 humans are gonna crush this
@cheapwine3365
@cheapwine3365 12 күн бұрын
​​@@renatoperocchio4508 something to consider: maybe it balances based around player count; maybe solo lethal is meant to be manageable to make up for the fact that your teammates are mediocre bots, whereas with a full squad the game ups the difficulty to be suitable for a full team of real players.i don't know if this is the case but it wouldn't be the first time a co-op experience accounts for player count like that, and it's also something we didn't have in SM1 unfortunately. Exterminatus in SM1 is realistically unsoloable for all but the best because it's balanced around having 3-4 people lol
@renatoperocchio4508
@renatoperocchio4508 12 күн бұрын
@@cheapwine3365 true and good to know, I've never touched a space marine game but this looks close enough to L4D with a beard of war skin on it that I wanna play it desperately. I saw a horde mode in the pipeline and was sold. It may get repetitive but in easy to please. I just want this game to come out good and playable
@misterjiggles5041
@misterjiggles5041 11 күн бұрын
My fear is the severe lack of enemy diversity. There's like what...2 or 3 types of enemies? Is that enough to make a fun and varied play style?
@charger2501
@charger2501 21 сағат бұрын
Love how the ai runs infront of the guy clearly ripping out a phat load of ouch every time and when it gets shot in the back says "that is heretical behaviour" like can you see I'm working here walk around the boom boom
@markshaunng3745
@markshaunng3745 27 күн бұрын
That melta bomb was clutch
@seanofarrell2155
@seanofarrell2155 27 күн бұрын
Cannot wait to unleash this kind of devestation as an Imperial Fist. I am the wall upon which the xenos break!
@ContradictoryNature
@ContradictoryNature 27 күн бұрын
The way he's one-handing that bolter like it's a shopping bag while firing his pistol is extremely rad.
@triage2962
@triage2962 19 күн бұрын
That shopping bag performes pretty underwelming for a heavy Bolter.
@doctorsnart6389
@doctorsnart6389 27 күн бұрын
I’m confused as to why you didn’t opt to build more distance and unload with your heavy bolter in rapid-fire mode, such as when dealing with the waves of minor enemies as you were deploying charges or fighting the hive tyrant. Is it more efficient to fire slowly and accurately from the hip, or is it just not viable because it makes you slow and open to attack? I feel like I’m missing something, because if I were in your position, I’d take every opportunity to swiss-cheese the ‘nids, big and small.
@ringard5172
@ringard5172 11 күн бұрын
You can't really build more distance from wave enemies, they are as fast as you are to say the least.
@draketurtle4169
@draketurtle4169 9 күн бұрын
I believe the problem with heavy aiming as it’s called for the big lad is that you can’t dodge/roll so you compromise a lot of your limited evasiveness and cqc potential for a faster firerate and more accurate shots but since he is taking all the aggro or the majority of the aggro he can’t go all out and heavy stance as much.
@ringard5172
@ringard5172 9 күн бұрын
​@@draketurtle4169 Limited mobility is not the problem really, heavy bolter is the only weapon in heavy arsenal that require heavy stance to boost it's dps output from bad to mediocre. It's meh at clearing waves. And it's even worse at eliminating any higher rank mobs. And yeah... Do not blame agro that much. There are plenty of areas where you will be swarmed from all directions in co-op mod so you will agro large packs of enemies no matter what you do.
@airgunbubba2505
@airgunbubba2505 18 күн бұрын
By the Emperor! That Salamander just a straight up brawler with a Heavy Bolter...The melee/glory kills are fantastic!
@Zirkalaritz
@Zirkalaritz 16 күн бұрын
28:43 to 29:00 "Will you two just kiss already, damn. A freaking Tyrant had to be found for you two to stop blowing each other"
@mathiaslaterreurdesbacasab2872
@mathiaslaterreurdesbacasab2872 9 күн бұрын
In the fight on the bridge, we can see how much a lasgun is strong. It's three shots little troop ennemy It feels like the gardsmen were doing something and were a good asset in this fight
@orion3298
@orion3298 23 күн бұрын
Into the fires of battle...ONTO THE ANVIL OF WAR!!!!!!!!
@nickkeyes27
@nickkeyes27 8 күн бұрын
The cosmetics for the heavy are looking nice. He’s a mean, green killing machine!
@T.A.K.O.SV12
@T.A.K.O.SV12 27 күн бұрын
I just realized the banner had its own fanfare. That's so cool!
@Predkite
@Predkite 27 күн бұрын
the one rule of warhammer 40k, RATATTATATATATATATAATATATATATAATATATa til its dead
@ENGLANDmistaT
@ENGLANDmistaT 28 күн бұрын
Legacy Gaming your only making my first class even harder to pick ! So jealous you been rocking this game and cannot wait to jump in with my boys in September, we are looking to get serious with the PVP mode as well. Love the content since Alien Fireteam days. Blessings !
@F2ID78gh
@F2ID78gh 27 күн бұрын
What i think and hope, is that this game has nailed all the classes. Making each one different but just as viable.
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS 26 күн бұрын
Yep, that's what we've been trying to highlight. If any class can clear Ruthless solo, they are all viable.
@CHUNKYBOI-ko9yl
@CHUNKYBOI-ko9yl 27 күн бұрын
IGN is crying that they have god awful players to do there shit
@grimmcrag8715
@grimmcrag8715 28 күн бұрын
I wanna see some high level assault and bulwark gameplay. Gotta say though, it's good to see heavy gameplay where they're not constantly rolling around like an Australian breakdancer.
@largamau
@largamau 8 күн бұрын
OMG. The sound of the power armor thumps on my ROG Cetra Speednova earbuds. Im going to play this game all day. Ive been grinding to finish all work to play this game.
@mcmarkmarkson7115
@mcmarkmarkson7115 27 күн бұрын
Oh man I really don't know about all that rolling around chief :D They should do something about that.
@Lucid-Dee
@Lucid-Dee 17 күн бұрын
Somebody said the heavy has a ground stomp option that gives enough space to fire again. Not sure if it’s true
@Drivaawwrrr
@Drivaawwrrr 27 күн бұрын
The heavy bolter needs to sound beefy-er IMO, sounds a bit underwhelming audibly
@xQuandaleDinglex
@xQuandaleDinglex 25 күн бұрын
It seems that a lot of shooters have that problem. Hope they tweak it. :(
@Awwscrewit
@Awwscrewit 13 күн бұрын
Watching a Salamander with a heavy bolter fat roll into crates for ammo was not on my list of expectations today.
@prestonjohnson1537
@prestonjohnson1537 27 күн бұрын
This already feels like a better HD2 than HD2 is. Cant wait to play it.
@Tarnished707
@Tarnished707 27 күн бұрын
5:48 Target: minors
@GKJusticar55
@GKJusticar55 26 күн бұрын
This and the Vanguard seem absolutely for me.
@PistonDrivenGun
@PistonDrivenGun 27 күн бұрын
I think the problem i see playing solo is having all the aggro when you are ranged class. This would seem easier as an actual coop team. Like you said being able to actually be able to lay down the fire would be extrmely handy. The Vanguard looked good solo. In and out but heavy and sniper need a team.
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS 27 күн бұрын
Yep, exactly this. Class is really good, but it excels in an actual team, not when you have all the aggro
@PistonDrivenGun
@PistonDrivenGun 27 күн бұрын
@LegacyGamingUS Even tactical, vanguard and sniper almost died solo on hardest difficulty. I think Tac and Van did better up close and having better parry times but they all almost died. Coop is what this game is for and the first game I am going to buy since GoW:Ragnarok. So this will be dope
@mojolotz
@mojolotz 27 күн бұрын
Nary a Melee Weapon on me EXCEPT THESE HANDS. ROAAARGH
@antilarge7860
@antilarge7860 27 күн бұрын
Not using a heavy flamer playing as a Salamander is pure heresy
@Benthesniperof8
@Benthesniperof8 27 күн бұрын
That's because there is no heavy flamers in coop mode. Heavy bolter, Heavy Plasma Incinerator or multi-melta are the only options for heavy primary. There's no flamer for coop mode at all. I've played the whole game via the leaked build that happened in July. There is a flamer in the campaign, but not multiplayer coop or PvP modes.
@jackball344
@jackball344 27 күн бұрын
The Heavy: I cast FIST!!
@gplr1882
@gplr1882 27 күн бұрын
I suspect the heavy and tactical are gonna be best buds, the auspex scan have to help the heavy by alot
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk 8 күн бұрын
3:20 55 rounds of heavy bolter ammunition to kill five gaunts. What a power fantasy.
@derposaurus1421
@derposaurus1421 27 күн бұрын
I'm super excited for this game, but I am curious about the difficulty. It seems to be pretty easy most of each level. I could be totally wrong, and even if I'm not this is something they could easily change. But do you guys think the game is difficult enough?
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS 27 күн бұрын
Density and threat increases with the amount of actual players in the squad, but resources like med kits, ammo, and grenades remain scarce so it actually gets quite difficult at times.
@DinDonDan.
@DinDonDan. 27 күн бұрын
Judging from the end of this video, max difficulty will be no cakewalk. Constant flow of smaller mobs, heavy hitting bosses and limited supplies.
@derposaurus1421
@derposaurus1421 24 күн бұрын
@@LegacyGamingUS That's good to know! Thanks for all the info and content!
@SaltyShaun
@SaltyShaun 8 күн бұрын
I love how dude walks into ur line of fire then calls you a heretic for shooting him.
@allbriardup6451
@allbriardup6451 25 күн бұрын
I saw him melee and the guy playing has the option to melee with his heavy weapon as well as area stomp. This is a good video despite not showing the full potential and because it leaves players more to look forward to in their playthrough. Aside from that, a sidearm is logical, as it gives the shooter an alternate shooting option that is handy and effective while keeping enemies mostly at range 👍
@Keklan572
@Keklan572 28 күн бұрын
I really want a hand flamer
@TheLehi5
@TheLehi5 24 күн бұрын
its cute how they compliment each other. :D
@SkyNinja759
@SkyNinja759 27 күн бұрын
I'm really hoping this game brings back the Gears of War-like co-op shooter into the main stream. The executions, the rolling, two weapon combat, and 3rd person perspective all scream GoW. Such a great genre that hasn't been meaningfully touched in a decade.
@2ndprotectsthe1st27
@2ndprotectsthe1st27 26 күн бұрын
I wonder why a Hormagaunt takes that many shots from a heavy bolter? It should be like a water melon vs 12guage.
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS 25 күн бұрын
On that we agree brother lol.
@angelq.1280
@angelq.1280 27 күн бұрын
Dude wasn’t even using his mini gun as much lol
@Whitehead1945
@Whitehead1945 28 күн бұрын
The heavy needs diff execute animation, the HB just dissapear, looks bad
@alexlepekha7194
@alexlepekha7194 27 күн бұрын
That is some resilient insignia atop his power pack. Rolling required ahead brother.
@Dreez76
@Dreez76 8 күн бұрын
Can't wait for Chaplain , Techmarine and Apothecary classes to get implemented.
@shadkunt9387
@shadkunt9387 27 күн бұрын
Not sure if it's just being cut out, but it kinda saddens me that we don't get a sick cinematic or cutscene when deploying into the battlefield. Even just the space marines kinda landing into the zone would be such a sick addition to immersing you into the fantasy.
@TaintedChimp
@TaintedChimp 28 күн бұрын
Ive always dreamt about blasting Nids with a heavy bolter, but i wasnt expecting it to be the class I most enjoyed watching so far. Playing with a mate as Bulwark as heavy is going to be so much fun.
@foxdavion6865
@foxdavion6865 15 күн бұрын
It's crazy to think that a decade ago, one of the most difficult things to implement into gameplay was the ammo belt for the Devastator Marine, it was so difficult that the creators of the first game didn't even bother with it and the developers working on Eternal Crusade struggled to try and get it into the game because they wanted one because the fans wanted it. It was only in 2014 that the early technology for this sort of object type was developed for video games and Eternal Crusade had an early implementation of it. To think that now a decade later, having floating attached chains, tassels, belts, etc. is just an every day thing in video games, pretty wild.
@misterjiggles5041
@misterjiggles5041 11 күн бұрын
Wait, you're serious? The belt was difficult to get right? Because of the physics or just the appearance?
@foxdavion6865
@foxdavion6865 11 күн бұрын
@@misterjiggles5041 Both actually. Real Time Ribbon psyhics didn't exist at the time and rendering cloth in real time was equally system intensive. The only GPUs that could handle it without tanking the framerate were the Titans. 2 years later, we had GPUs out that laughed at such things. 2015 saw a massive trchnology leap. For example, Dragon's Dogma, Arc SE and Witcher 3 had actual real time cloth phsyics and wind effects on environment, all new for the time and it absolutely pushed graphics cards. All things taken for granted now, also the technology had been improved and optimised to the point where we have these things in Nintendo Switch games, a console with tech from 2017.
@WilhelmScreamer
@WilhelmScreamer 21 күн бұрын
My man is rolling in combat like its going out of style. Very funny to see in gravis armor
@itsjustreece7534
@itsjustreece7534 11 күн бұрын
2:37 Bulwark runs in front of heavy fire "Stop this Heretical Behavior"
@powrongster
@powrongster 27 күн бұрын
one of the few youtuber that is actually a gamer. Others I watch were so cringe
@sykocaine
@sykocaine 27 күн бұрын
My favorite part of these videos, is that they come out before the game is released.. super neato.
@Xero_Kaiser
@Xero_Kaiser 27 күн бұрын
That would be how previews work, yes.
@Grimasaurus
@Grimasaurus 27 күн бұрын
Hmm, I thought the heavy bolter was belt fed from a specialised ammo backpack power unit.
@mickthick6170
@mickthick6170 27 күн бұрын
waiting for the glorious powerfist assault class user to show up
@Yesnaught
@Yesnaught 8 күн бұрын
"That is heretical behaviour," declared the marine who _ran across a line of fire from a heavy bolter and got hit_
@Naughty-Carlos
@Naughty-Carlos 27 күн бұрын
Im torn between Bulwark and Heavy 😅 both look so good
@Guud1992
@Guud1992 27 күн бұрын
Anyone else dissapointed in the fact that the heavy focus is counting rounds and dosent just let it rip... turned me straight off heavy looks dull.
@WorldGoods
@WorldGoods 27 күн бұрын
Flamer would just go hard on heavy
@3ssenti4L
@3ssenti4L 28 күн бұрын
Heavy bolter go brrrrrrrr!!!
@doudyk7692
@doudyk7692 22 күн бұрын
Hello all, Holly Emperor, he is so good with the heavy class. Nice play and so many takedowns. Ty.
@warriorfire8103
@warriorfire8103 27 күн бұрын
Fingers crossed for the bulwark tomorow
@Zed88a
@Zed88a 27 күн бұрын
I love the SOLO experience in co op mode alot of challenge
@dblundz
@dblundz 28 күн бұрын
Heavy is going to be my go to
@KingKobbie1764
@KingKobbie1764 27 күн бұрын
Now I fear the astartes
@keeganbruce19
@keeganbruce19 27 күн бұрын
ok i have seen enough , pre ordering
@StrakkLIVE
@StrakkLIVE 27 күн бұрын
I'm happy that the heavy bolter was used because the last few videos were using the meltas
@chrismah6248
@chrismah6248 27 күн бұрын
I just noticed but what are the cords on the heavy bolter for? It's not ammo it clearly has a drum mag. Why does it need power?
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