Space Marine 2 - S-Tier Tactical Build & Melta DESTROYS Everything! Warhammer 40K Space Marine 2

[@PhaseShifter]

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[@vernondesouza1974]

To be honest I hope they don't nerf for fun aspect Bring more levels in and make us bleed. Add cosmetics like inferno gives only gauntlets, decapitation gives only left shoulder pad etc. Make it that completing all missions (6) gives a unique set for each class and completing all without failure gives a rare skin. U can even add things like u cannot die more than once. So on and so forth

[@mattstebbins7033]

Fixing a bug isn't nerfing...

[@treomoe]

We don't want anything to feel "balanced." We finally have a game where we're meant to be the most formidable force on the battlefield, so let us relish that experience! This is why class limitations should remain confined to the PVE aspect of the game. Perhaps introducing an additional difficulty level could provide more of a challenge, but we definitely don’t want any nerfs. Let’s embrace our power and enjoy the thrill of being the ultimate space marine!

[@kane2418]

A higher difficulty is on the road map for season 2, approx. Nov-Dec time I imagine

[@asgorne]

The point is to be formidable but overwhelmed... not formidable and immortal. Fortunately, in harder difficulties, overhealing wasn't guaranteed survival but it still kinda made dire situations a cakewalk

[@heymelon]

What you want is still balance but with buffing the weaker options instead of nerfing the best stuff.

[@angelofbliss]

If there needs to be balance, it need to be in the form of buffs, the plasma heavy is weaker then the pistol and rifle. And the plasma in general seems like its damage is behind its intended use. Purple plasma feels great in avg but not in substantial. The purple plasma pistol can 2 headshot in avg, but it takes 4 or 6 in substantial. It destroys pacing. When u can do two headshots and move on or survive the major is spam, it’s skill based. When you have to take 4 or 6 headshots and u die to 5 other majoris, the gun is failing its own purpose. All plasmas need to be uptiered in damage. It feels like it needs double damage. And heavy plasma is just not working as intended, the enemies keep moving too quick even the fat bosses, it ends up not being sniper or mortar, just another shotgun that’s severely underpowered and overcharge doesn’t deal significantly more dmg, it’s like 10% more . Buff plasma make it equal to melts or better. Make it the incapacitation mortar.

[@randyrandalman2066]

Good stuff man. Always makes me happy to hear you say "Then Extended Mag for an extended mag." 😂

[@PhaseShifter]

@@randyrandalman2066 Haha! Man I hate doing the perks. Trying to keep it short without being too brief

[@randyrandalman2066]

@@PhaseShifter Fair. TBH, I think you'd be fine just showing the image of the perk tree and mention any individual perks that impact the build. Especially for the pistol and melee. Anyway, appreciate the love you're giving tactical, that's the one I'm maining and he's got lots of options. Thanks for the vids. The Emperor protects!

[@kazi6343]

Would you please go over different load outs for tactical and which weapons are better suited for which situations.

[@Kwisatz-Chaderach]

Yep its a good one. Seen this build before. Good job, mate.

[@tranminh-hm2nk]

The only downside is having to unload your entire magazine to kill a Majoris on Ruthless difficulty even with the Relic versions of the weapon. Other than that it's an amazing weapon to run if you're aiming for a survival/burst DMG build, I legit could not die because I heal so Fking much by clearing hordes with this gun.

[@lukmuxik]

Just a question: do y'all have a strat for leveling the weapons? I feel like I've played a ton of missions just trying to get my weapons through purple and gold tiers and the bar don't seem to budge after missions

[@PhaseShifter]

I just grind ruthless difficulty missions over and over!

[@jehutyprime]

Can we just take a moment to appreciate the fact that Arrowhead would have nerfed all the fun out of this weapon by now. Kudos to Saber for realising games are meant to be FUN; not the embodiment of some unfathomably opaque “vision”.

[@PhaseShifter]

@@jehutyprime R E A L I S M

[@bamforkineye]

This is fine, but when you dont use any other weapon because this is clearly best then there is a problem, other weapons need to be buffed to be "useable"

[@lilweeboi]

dawg they are different games😂why are yall redditors so emotional

[@ProudDMims]

This build is a beast!!!

[@play4fun225]

Hey mate, can the Battle Focus parry trigger the Concentrated Fire, or the parry just work with Expert Timing?

[@tootles7622]

Except for ranged enemies that spawn outta the play are and flying enemies that hover above your range

[@PhaseShifter]

This happened to us yesterday with a neurothrope! The Achilles heel was indentified!

[@borisfrlic]

They def gotta fix the overheal, but if they actually go and nerf this thing….

[@PhaseShifter]

I wonder how this could be tweaked? Maybe a slower fire rate and the correct the overheal?

[@MultiDannyboy1995]

​@PhaseShifter They need to make the other weapons just as good, the rest just aren't on the same tier as the melta (besides maybe Tac's nade launcher)

[@borisfrlic]

@@PhaseShifter No way it would be crap then. Just cap the heal to what it's supposed to actually be. No oveheal; just regular heal.

[@rikhansen4574]

Bro we told you..... Melta is where its at.

[@PhaseShifter]

My curiousity got the better of me! Glad I listened!

[@rikhansen4574]

@Tyler-l5s for sure, I swap weapons to change it up too

[@be0wulfmarshallz]

Wait until he figures out how to do infinte reload with Melta and therefore should use ranged melta for mega blast through

[@Totes_Bigotes]

Is there a reason behind why you keep shooting and missing right after a gunstrike or is that from just spamming shots during a gunstrike?

[@PhaseShifter]

It's a skill issue. You need to pause slightly to let your aim reset.

[@Totes_Bigotes]

Oh okay lol. I genuinely was wondering if there was some kind of strategy there I was overlooking that might not have been mentioned haha. Thanks for clarifying.

[@elias3998]

How do you Heal With the Melita rifle?

[@PhaseShifter]

Once you have contested health (the white bar) you can take advantage of this system

[@angelofbliss]

It’s ok for ur marine to trivialize the difficulty , it’s called skill and fun

[@Just_Some_Clown]

This setup is a (almost) lore accurate melta. That shit is an anti tank weapon, it borderline deletes Astartes from existence in. Hell…the version in this build is still WEAK in comparison 😂

[@PhaseShifter]

I was actually thinking about this after I posted the vid. Game wise it feels over powered but I can remember, back in the day, my friend used to terrorise my hive tyrant in the table top game with meltas from his tac and terminator squads. I used to get so tilted! Not sure what edition that was but I'm assuming it's still the same!

[@GameQuestNetwork]

Isn't this the same Build fervor gaming made like 2 days ago?

[@PhaseShifter]

I'm not sure who that is but it's pretty much the same as crazymrpipz' too!

[@Youtube_Globetrotter]

Is more ammo better than range on the Meta melter?

[@PhaseShifter]

I prefer it!

[@tonyabsthetic9971]

What type of nerf do you think they will apply to this weapon??? Will it be damage, spread, range?

[@PhaseShifter]

Yo! I'm really not sure because it's already very short ranged. Perhaps a longer cooldown between each shot and make it slightly less effective against majoris enemies? It staggers everything so it's cc is pretty insane aswell. There's a few directions they could go in! With that being said, they may just leave it as it is as the harder content that's coming make settle things down? What do you think?

[@tonyabsthetic9971]

@@PhaseShifter ah, that would be a good approach cause it would allow us to retain the feeling of being powerful with it while just limiting its rof. A small change in rof could also be easy to get used to and help it receive less negative feedback from the community.

[@EKk8819]

All you guys calling for nerfs while playing 1 or 2 builds on average mode over and over are insane! 95% of everything isn't overpowered in a way that makes the game easy, and the few weapons that are super OP nobody really uses like plasma and melta and grenade launcher or Fusil.. You need a lot of hours in the game until those start really being OP anyways, go to relic with a stock melta on tactical and see what happens to 99% of you.. Stop calling for nerfs on ANTYHING thats powerful. Some things are just better FOR YOU then others.. U think it's OP to get right into the heat of battle and blast stuff cuz ur good at it. Some people are better at range and relic bolt rifle is FIRE, so isn't any sniper.. SNiper and Melta do the same thing almost except 1 can do it 1000 feet away, but nobody wants to nerf the sniper.. Just stop calling for nerfs cuz the devs do listen and if this turns into trashdivers 2 I'll stop playing. I want to feel like a beast out there, and just cuz a 1% of u who have everything unlocked and playy all day everyday with friends think it's how it is for everyone.. The casual player wants to feel powerful too and have fun, the game is perfect balance wise I think for rn... U think it's too easy use a different build..

[@insane5907]

I don’t think the melts is overpowered I think everything in comparison sucks they need to buff the bolters both heavy and non heavy. Main reason Melta is so good is it’s basically a shotgun which is perfect for how the enemies love to get close and personal.

[@PhaseShifter]

Do you think everything have the same kill potential and TTK as this though? Because to me, this just trivialises everything!

[@borisfrlic]

Yep Melta is fine the way it is after they’ve fixed the health bug. Bolts need just a bit of love and they’ll be fine.

[@borisfrlic]

@@PhaseShifter Tbf bro you are running premades, so ofc its gonna be extremely trivial with melta. Other things need a small buff, not Melta nerf. IMO what most needs to happen is some sort of stun-locking enemies like melta does if you do x amount of headshots for bolt guns.

[@PhaseShifter]

@@borisfrlic premades do really help, fair point! Love your bolter idea!

[@razorviking607]

Try the heavy with the multi melta🎉 so good.

[@PhaseShifter]

I'm working on heavy at the moment!!

[@Sthrall]

if they nerf this i'll going back to helldiving

[@unpolished6296]

Lol its not nerfing its bug fixing. The overheal is stupidly. You heal more than your contested health

[@PhaseShifter]

We'll be going back tomorrow for a while!!!

[@PhaseShifter]

@@unpolished6296 Yeah, it's gotta be a bug!

[@s2wuolf508]

@@unpolished6296not the overheal specifically, most likely just the melta itself since a lot of other weapons are also kind of mid rn

[@christopherzack9581]

Naw the emperor doesn't protect helldivers

[@Crazymrpipz]

lets gooooooooooooooooooooooo

[@PhaseShifter]

EL PIPZ!

[@borisfrlic]

it’s not the broken overhead that makes the Melta so amazing - it’s the ability to stun Majoris enemies so you don’t take damage. It takes skill to use the Melta properly.

[@avalokiteshvara113]

lmao it does not take any skill to use a melta my friend. I like the nade launcher far more

[@profaa927]

It takes skill to left click in the general direction of the enemy?

[@demontillelouis4294]

@@profaa927 while dodging and parrying ? sure its not the hardest weapon to use but like every other there is a skill ceiling :)

[@borisfrlic]

@@avalokiteshvara113 You're being purposely obtuse. You know very well I'm not talking about pulling the trigger; I'm talking about all the dodging, positioning, timings, the constant parries, resource management with what is still a low-ammo weapon, having to be in CQC 100% of the time, etc...

[@borisfrlic]

@@profaa927 Never disrespect yourself like that ever again

[@dummy-head]

The word nerf needs to be tossed out in a pve game 😂 especially when classes and guns are very weak 😂 as is armor 3:22 you find your self gun striking a lot because it’s the only way you can live past average unless you have a heavy babysitting you with a twin melta 😂😂

[@MrMusic6336]

I disagree, nube tube tac marine is fun.

[@PhaseShifter]

@@MrMusic6336 probably my favourite so far I think!

[@The-Spanish-Inquisition490]

Everyone crying about them the devs fixing a bug because they dont want balance, yet wont cry that the power fist is the complete opposite of wht its role is in tabletop. If you've never played the tabletop game, the power fist is a dueling weapon because... you know.... It's a giant, hard-hitting fist with an electrical field that bypasses matter such as heavy heavy armour.... meaning it could deal insane ampunts of punishment to champions/leaders, ect, who have extreme protection.... it wasn't designed for clearing out waves of tyrandids. 😂

[@tootles7622]

Haven't seen one person bitch about the gatekeeping and artificial difficulty once, but Everyone freaked out when HD2 started doing it. 🤔

[@Crazymrpipz]

helldivers 2 has 0 progression, 0 perks, 0 weapon upgrades, zero class perks, zero armor perks... in this game u have a POWER INCREASE as u lvl up theres a difference

[@tootles7622]

@@Crazymrpipz yeah, but in higher difficulties they take healing efficiency and and ammo pickups from you and raise enemy health and damage, that's artificial difficulty. It's easy to make things hard when they just take things from you. What's the point of a shooter when your squad is fighting over ammo constantly. And locking the best weapons behind the hardest difficulty is an overused gimmick since it started. It needs some major QoL changes. The combat is near perfect except those ranged e emotes broken DPS. The gameplay loop feels pretty good other than those things and maybe bring some of the other weapons in line with the meltas, I mean the standard meltas does more damage than the hammer good lord. Seems like more tester playing on the lowest difficulty again. I love the game and it can easily fix these issues before they get outta hand. I'm in no way comparing the 2 only the community standards if anything

[@tootles7622]

Thanks for the video, by the way. Been loving this setup

[@Crazymrpipz]

@@tootles7622 because u can heal through mechanics instead of stims, locking the best weapons behind HARDEST content is lITERALLY WHAT EVERY GAME EVER DOES with any rpg elements :D D2 = best weapons RAIDS and TRIALS, TFD = best weapons BEHIND INSANE ENDGAME FARMS and many many more, without this everythingis boring and easy, as for the HAMMER I agree it needs a buff and im sure it will get one, as for community standards for mepersonally HD2 is one of the EASIEST GAMES OF ALL TIME with 0 progression, I love the game but thats the truth

[@holgerverfolger3117]

They nerf melter 100%, this is a noob weapon . With this weapon you can finish every difficult