HOW TO UPDATE OLD BUILDS TO WORK IN ALPHA 12 | Empyrion Galactic Survival

[@makz524]

for those who do not know: hit tilde ` type di then hit ESC look at the ship and see the ID number (4 digit) we will use nnnn below for normal rcs ` replaceblocks nnnn rcsblockms plasticfulllarge for T2 rcs ` replaceblocks nnnn rcsblockms_t2 plasticfulllarge

[@Eternalgameplayer]

"When spawning a blueprint now there is automatically a repair to template backup generated (without lock code)" Damn this is solid update

[@Runebane]

Great video as always :) A tip about constructors: I keep 2 Adv contructors out at all times, but i have several more in storage that I can plop down for those rare times I need to run 4 or 6 (or the one time I ran 8) all at once (I am currently using a T4 ship though, so for a tier 3 you may have 1 Adv out and a large and several smalls in storage for when you need them, like when you go mining). Personally, I find the CPU efficiency of medium thrusters is sort of meh, you get 148 CPU savings for using 2 mediums in place of 5 smalls. However, what you do get is a fairly significant energy savings and some extra HP all at the expense of more tonnage. Again, trading 5 smalls for 2 mediums your ship now weighs an additional 7.2 tons, but saves 810pu.

[@johnbartoli1302]

Spanj, TY. I found this very useful in figuring out how to get my older BP's to work with Alpha 12, I kept forgetting about the RCS's as I'm sure others have as well. Best of luck to you and yours during this self-isolation time. I'm getting through it better by gaming a lot more.

[@trg4youtv855]

Redoing old ships is such a pain, every alpha i build new stuff cause i never used signal logic before so now my new things are all filled with signals and I enjoy the building aspect of empyrion more then the survival part, of course i play the survival just to test my builds, see how practical they are and then build better things down the road to try and work towards the perfect builds. Fun times all around!

[@joeegnor9875]

I recovered a destroyed vessel from the pol minefield the other day and loved it for taking out lesser poi's.

[@solospirit4212]

Very useful 😎Tyvm You have converted all this before, especially in CnB streams..but it's great to have it all summarised here. Saved for Ron..i will be needing this very soon 😁

[@griphen2113]

thank you for this, not only was it helpful for updating old builds, but it was very helpful in understanding a newer player in how to build new, or upgrade blueprint ships.

[@kalebeaton3684]

im building this ship today thanks so much for the explanation on cpu changes to old builds and the fixed ship spanj

[@markdaniels6838]

Not seen this ship before. Already planning on how to get it into my play through. Great help for updating old builds. Hopefully the ship will be in the workshop by the time I can afford it.

[@Jimmy5208]

I can't wait to see this ship on the workshop! Great work Spanj!

[@Trump1488]

The biggest problem I ran into updating my builds was storage for SV/HV. Unless you know how to use the replaceblocks command you're basically going to have to totally start over.

[@TheFuzzypuddle]

i like to use the advanced core in creative when updating a ship because it allows me to see how the ship maneuvers before i decide which cpu tier the ship will be and without slapping a bunch of extenders all willy nilly wherever. i usually pop one in and experiment around with the ship before i decide what the final project will look like. advanced cores are super useful in creative.

[@jgboyer]

I'm really surprised you didn't show your audience the ReplaceBlocks command. Most of us already use it but the newcomers would benefit by it. Seldom are all the RCS in a neat row like yours. They are scattered all about the craft. Plus ReplaceBlocks handles armor upgrades as well.

[@Spanj]

I wanted to keep it simple

[@plushcthulhu457]

Nice work Spanj! This will help us to prepare for the next restart 🙂

Thanks Spanj for the Heads up. :-)

[@NerdletteGaming]

Super useful video, ty so much :)

[@nemo4evr]

Thank you for all the info!

[@ItsShifty97]

Very helpful video. Thanks Spanj.

[@TheEVEInspiration]

What I found to help to increase storage for small volume items (anything personal, like weapons) is to install a bunch of closets. Or to a lesser extent wardrobes, but these visually can double as cheap, less than half block size walls. No CPU and power use of mention with those and it can help arrange items better than one huge storage.

[@DonMichelMatos]

Interesting... noob here so please forgive the insanity... in what situation would you use an wardrobe, for example. AFAIK, you can't manage it through wifi, so, just stuff you wouldn't use that much, right? But does it affects ships weight and impacts the power needed to fly?

[@DonMichelMatos]

Spanj, amazing video! Just got astonished how everything works! I have downloaded some BP and have seen many "issues" like that. Congratulations!

[@TheEVEInspiration]

@@DonMichelMatos Closets work with WiFI, but indeed wardrobes do not. I sometimes use them where mormally I would use a wall of some kind, its better use of the space. Say you have a locker...which you have to be physically at to use. Anywhere nearby would be a good spot. As for what to put in, I even put in plants :) Other things are guns, boosters, suits.

[@TheEVEInspiration]

@@DonMichelMatos As for weight, yes everything on the a ship counts towards that. Interesting whatever you carry on you person does not. Thus if you are out in a SV or HV it somtimes pays of to store some stuff on person instead in proper storage to reduce vehicle total weight. I am sure this loophole will be fixed at some point.

[@DonMichelMatos]

@@TheEVEInspiration lol amazing! I will see how that works for me. Thanks!

[@servit0r]

I returned after a long time and am trying out mass/volume and cpu, so far I really enjoy it especially since weight should always be a factor in survival games imho and when it here actually impacts your decisions in building a ship it's even more awesome.

[@TH3.W0R5T.0N3]

I wanna build i like to build, not what the Developers let me build, becourse of Limits or Ristrictions they set. This was 1 reason i stop playing Empyrion for atleast 6 month.

[@woodsmn8047]

I find much to answer issues I encountered in creative mode...such as.. just how to apply the cpu extenders...I never knew you needed more than one of them for each level...naturally I couldn't get them to work.. so thanks for that little tidbit...I just got mad and turned the damn thing off...(CPU function)...Now maybe it'll actually work..also a heap of other confusion cleared up...thanks Spanj...for making clear what Eleon did not...they just gave us all this stuff and left us to figure it out...at least that's how it feels to me

[@navyrayne]

Hey Spanj, can you maybe do like a new CV construction tutorial? Like, teaching people how to build ships, layout deck plans and rooms, go over thusters and weight, etc?

[@diggles01]

Perfect, just the tutorial I was after. Cheers

[@ekaos5099]

I would think the replaceblock command would work with the RCS's. Just leave the command line blank at the end therefore replacing the RCS's with empty blocks where they used to be..

[@Spanj]

Replaceblocks would work perfectly but wanted to keep this simple

[@michael610829]

Hi. Like your channel :) Very useful info.

[@TTHIAGO666]

#Spanj do you have a tutorial that teaches how to place solar panels on a base? I'm new to the game but building bases and spaceships is very difficult for me, I wanted to see a tutorial that teaches how to place solar panels on a base, I have a base and I already have it but the energy doesn't reach the base, do you have a video tutorial that teach that? I like your channel a lot despite not knowing much of the English language I understand some things, but since I have the game Empyrion your channel is what I see the most, continues with the good work.

[@GeryonM]

Went to update my old builds with this info and all my builds are gone. Popped into a creative game and everything i had designed or made blueprints from others stuff is gone. workshop and game BPs were there but everything I had in there, gone. Would anyone happen to know where empyrion hides the folder personal BPs are?

[@DonMichelMatos]

One thing that I would like to know and tottaly out of the video subject... If I use the difficulty level with the limits to weight, the same rules are applied to the NPCs?

[@elijones7926]

The Nakiri is by far my favorite CV...PERIOD. i have spent more time in this ship than even my own lol. Im actually building a ship that she can dock in. Such a great ship Spanj...a true work of art, grace, and with my little upgrades she has more teeth than a shark lol. Great ship sir....great great ship.

[@FnG-68]

Although cant play i enjoy your misadventures keep doing the do that you do m8 TIP 1 save template lol

[@full8497]

As of the most recent update- - When spawning a blueprint now there is automatically a repair to template backup generated (without lock code)

[@karenceasario491]

Is there a way on a coop server to switch the weights and CPU on if you started the world with them off?

[@Spanj]

There is, you need to modify the gameoptions.yaml within the save game folder

[@DonMichelMatos]

Spanj, if I set a coop game server, can I change the number of players and, what I really want to know, can other people log in? I started a coop game with my brother and now my other brother wants to join in in the same game... Is that possible? We have been trying but the one that wants to play with us keeps getting an error...

[@WinchesterxNL]

This was a seriously helpful video! Stupid question, maybe. But is it actually possible to completely hide a thruster, and still have it work? (Say, the thrusters in the back being hidden behind some more of those blue panels?)

[@full8497]

Currently you can still hide thrusters behind blocks but that may and likely will change eventually.

[@DonMichelMatos]

So, if a thruster that is behind a block, gets a hit, actually the hit will go to the block first, right? Like, a physical shield...?

[@DonMichelMatos]

How do you "fly" through the ship? Is it a creative option? A text command?

[@alenvire]

So you only need one RCS now? Not a bad change. Gotta change up some of my ships now.

[@Spanj]

I had 1 by accident, depending on thruster position, you might not even need 1

[@DonMichelMatos]

@@Spanj so, no need of RCS anymore? Why they did that? LoL

[@LegendEternal]

Just back in the game after a few years away. What exactly did they do to RCS’s?

[@full8497]

Made them useless for the most part. Occasionally I will still have 1 or 2 max. Most new builds have no RCS.

[@LegendEternal]

@@full8497 So did they nerf their functionality or just make them cost crazy CPU?

[@Nobere]

If you want to replace all the RCS blocks on a CV at once just use the following console command: replaceblocks xxx RCSBlockMS hullfulllarge Use RCSBlockMS_T2 if you are using the T2 RCS blocks. This will replace all the of the RCS blocks with a regular steel block.

[@jgboyer]

He knows this command, I can't figure why he wouldn't have used it.

[@Nobere]

@@jgboyer Most folks do not know the block names for the RCS units. I guess they take after some very old names for them. MS for the CV units?

[@full8497]

Replacing RCS with blocks would just add weight that is not needed.

[@Nobere]

@@full8497 Sadly, with that command you have to replace them something. I guess you could use plastic blocks, or maybe truss blocks. The reason I pointed it out is that it's very easy to miss them when you are converting your build. I have a warship and I had scattered the RCS units throughout the build, (just in case one was taken out). When I was converting the build it was a nightmare trying to find them all because I could not remember where I put them.

[@john01513]

Spanj could you put the stream link up I would like to watch it if it's not much trouble thanks

[@Spanj]

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[@SonOfAvari]

I don't use cpu because my builds won't work at the max amount of cpu since its too much for cpu

[@LadieFromHell]

I subscribed to ALL your EGS blueprints and Yet I can only find 3 of then in game, is that because most of your blueprints are not Alpha 12 ready?

[@full8497]

That's likely because most of his builds are over limit on things like guns and turrets.

[@Spanj]

They should still appear in the list?

[@LadieFromHell]

@@Spanj I even tried to view then in "Freedom" Your BOLT is there as well as your BA_Prefab_Tier2-V-Spanj, BUt ships like the ST02-Shorthauler & ST03-Longhauler are not I will keep looking, Will let you know if I get them to work

[@elementalblaze79]

But Spanj, don't you have a CV that flies like a SV?! But you use it like a SV just with added turrets!

[@Spanj]

I do but it's not a 90kt monster

[@clausterpanne]

there is always too much rcs in old version ^^

[@TH3.W0R5T.0N3]

Why i hate the CPU Update. Why Blocks need CPU and RCS so big Amount of CPU?

[@Valariel]

The tier 2 RCS for CVs is insane amounts of CPU

[@GoldDragon1]

How does the Oxygen get from Tanks to Ventilators? In Space Engineers, you actually must build the path, but in Empyrion? or did you like a bit of "Black Magic" in your Sci-Fi adventures?

[@full8497]

@@GoldDragon1 In Empyrion it's magic.

[@DmytroBogdan]

Alpha 372 - oh god, please no!

[@jelynfury1972]

First XD

[@TheFantom_X]

This advanced core thing is complete bullshit. I spent hours updating my ships to the new CPU system only for then to release this thing now.

[@whitepawrolls]

My solution to updating older builds for cpu....? turn off cpu :)