Sparking Zero Was Just Embarassed In Front Of EVERYONE

[@RandomBlackGamer]

And people were mad at me for saying the Sparking series will NEVER be considered a competitive fighter. They should just accept it. I'm not even angry at it.

[@dhayris160]

The older games were much more balanced than this.

[@demgutts]

​@dhayris160 definitely wasn't, and that was supposed to be the point. Flying, instant transmission, transformations, effing senzu beans 😂😂😂, etc. How are you supposed balance such madness

[@RandomBlackGamer]

@@dhayris160 I'll say that things like not being able to perform rush attacks on downed opponents were for the best back then. But those games still weren't balanced.

[@thisismadness6772]

If smash bros has a competitive scene then DBSZ is a hyper competitive game

[@Ibuybabyaliens]

Nobody even knows you lmao wym people are mad at you. Take ya bl@ck a$$ on somewhere

[@alexandermagnus82]

Im just a chill guy who only plays against cpu, pretending its 2005 again. Lovin it lol

[@JermDaVirus]

Literally ✊💪💯

[@ZombieaidZ]

I wish the CPU's were harder. They only vanish twice on the highest difficulty. I can 1v5 a CPU easily. If they made them harder then the game would be much more enjoyable

[@alexandermagnus82]

@@ZombieaidZ I just give myself asymmetric fights where I'm outnumbered. I'm not good enough to solo a full team at max difficulty with any sort of regularity

[@InsightReasoning]

It’s just not fun that way anymore either. I’d actually rather boot up BT3 for AI battles

[@Mike16192]

Right here. This is where the game truly shines but the amount of modes you have to actually utilize this are so little nobody ends up enjoying too much. The other games had extra playable modes that allowed you to sink in time and effort into them And whilst custom battle is fun, I wish it was bit more polished in terms of what you can do with it (in order words, add a search bar, please!) Episode battle was great but limiting them to 7 characters with everyone of them except Goku having small stories also limits things. The what ifs were amazing overall, just wish we had more to go over with these. But yeah, this game, in a offline setting is great and I think they should keep expanding on it too. As for online, yeah... This was bound to happen. A game like this for online is always gonna create problems especially now that it just came out not too long ago.

[@N00BSYBORG]

When they said the game was intentionally unbalanced, that was interpreted as "UI Goku mogs half the roster by default." Which was expected, but is honestly still kind of fair considering his cost. I think they actually did a good job balancing characters around their DP cost. What they absolutely botched was the system mechanics. Nobody wanted infinite stalling, sparking mode spam, afterimage strike nonsense or the fight turning into a rhythm game every time somebody attempts a combo. I still like Sparking Zero, but it's something I'm exclusively playing for the single player or with my bros. Netplay for this game is cancer.

[@thefirstprime0124]

That's what i was thinking because I didn't even touch the online cause the rage quiting it keep hearing about and how crazy it is that some people just stop playing it

[@aitorchul2262]

The problem is not the abilities is the easy way you get DP points in the vanish wars just make the vanish wars consume 1 ki bar for vanish

[@binkl2844]

The 2 dp earthlings NEED to be weaker. They should never be on par with even the weakest Z fighter or enemy. Yaji, Videl and Hercule should only have 1 health bar and shouldn’t be able to stall. They slow the game down and make it boring to watch

[@noBody-ue6cs]

Net play is full of people who want this game in Evo

[@bensonbone]

I mean, isn’t that the point though to be a party game with your real friends? Looking at this and saying it has competitive value was like saying storm connections has competitive value 😩😅

[@regex2660]

I think the perception of "Dragonball games can be professional competitive" came from FighterZ. The thing is, I see FighterZ as a fighting game first and a Dragonball game second. It was made to BE a conventional fighting game in the likes of Tekken, SF, Guilty Gear. With all the conventional balances included. Sparking Zero, on the other hand, was a Dragonball game first and a fighting game second. It focuses more on the cool factors of Dragonball rather than the balance of fighting games. I really can't see Sparking Zero having a professional scene the same way I can't see Mario Party having an esport.

[@Almxghty1]

Well the difference is fighterz is an actual fighting game SZ is just a game

[@Pyrobaconstudios]

exactly, fighterz is a traditional fighter made to be competitive but like.. this is supposed to be the succesor to the budokai tenkaichi games which were always goofy janky arena fighters packed with dragon ball fanservice. Trying to make it into a competitive game is a fool's errand!

[@SeverinoCatule]

FighterZ was made by a well know fighting game developer which was Arc System Works. Sparking Zero was made by Spike the same one that made that fiasco called Jump Force. I mean of course differences would be notable between the games the problem is the person who started saying things about SZ being competitive was the problem

[@kozueayuhara2724]

Budokai 3 was both great fighting game and great Dragon Ball game

[@millyrock4455]

You all meant xenoverse! Fighter z is a 2d fighter and those are never competitive because of the pokey style of combat.

[@kenjaminmasters]

I showed this to my roommate who’s also a big fgc guy. He said it’s a shame that they pulled a “bayoneta at evo grand finals” and his face dropped when I told him “nah this is legit play”. Yeah either make the game competitive or don’t host tournaments lol

[@jetkirby3981]

It really be like that

[@KLOTEROLEROTAR]

The tenkaichi franchise is comprised of party games. Always has been. I dont want this competitive mindset to ruin the game. Being a broken mess is what makes the franchise so fun. One of the most fun techs in the original trilogy, vortex cancels, would be considered a bug by the people who want this game to be competitive and they'd cry about it and want it taken away.

[@jetkirby3981]

I think there's a difference between that and easy spam or retreating being the path to victory, that's not fun for casual or people that want to get better at the game

[@Iloveacaliforninman]

I think you're misinterpreting whats broken about this game it isn't fun stuff that could be considered tech it's just bad game mechanics that were Better in PREVIOUS tenkiachi games ​@@KLOTEROLEROTAR

[@AssasinEK59]

Or don’t watch the tournaments lolllllll orrrrr get good, only thing broken with little to no counter play is androids dashing for free lol

[@aryh9479]

The bias towards Dragonball being a competitive arena fighter while trashing Naruto Storm and other games, just for this to happen at a Grand Finals is wild

[@Blast_S_rank_1]

Naruto storm way better. Those ultimates and how well they animated are enough to clap sparking zero

[@justlloyd7881]

Brings a tear to my eye. Sparking Zero fans need to hold this L. Some of us have been telling em that SZ is gonna tank badly if it tries going the tournament route 😂

[@blackjoe79th]

@@Blast_S_rank_1storm sub system is bullshit an the amount of time u can save ur self is ridiculous as for grand finals is always puppets players. Their in the same boat but one has the better net

[@chuviis3508]

​@@Blast_S_rank_1i ain't a super fan of the storm series but the presentation is waaaaaay WAY more better than all the rush attacks on SZ. No wonder why kakarot is the most cinematic game on the DB franchise

[@calebstevens9446]

@@chuviis3508”way more better”? 😭 jokes aside the ults in Storm look amazing. The rush attacks….? Like the same animations they’ve been using since storm 3….? Like Naruto’s basic Rasegan where he just spins around and hits you with it in a close up…..? Yeah man those animations from 2011 r definitely on par with sparking, they just upscale them game to game but their biggest complaint is that older roster characters don’t get anything new, so to say they’re on par with sparking is disgustingly disingenuous, that’s like saying BT3 rush attacks are on par with sparking (outside of how old the game looks the actual animations themselves)

[@THerculez]

I don’t mind the game being unbalanced character wise. But there’s just broken and cheesy mechanics that make it stupid lol. Spike can fix this and turn it around and I hope they do

[@caffeineclown4884]

Yeah some of the busted stuff isn’t even lore accurate it’s just badly designed

[@Raytheman581]

Mechanics are usually the hardest thing to fix, the mechanics in games usually remain the same cause tweaking it even a little bit can make it boring or even more broken.

[@ofrvnk]

😂i got told 19 and gero being able to do that is “lore accurate” because they’re androids, community is cooked

[@skilletbakes420]

​@@ofrvnk it is lore accurate, just doesn't make it fun, it's like saying ui good can one shot most of the characters in the list, yeah sure that can be lore accurate but it's not fun... I'm all for balancing the game but what i mean by that is just remove the fucking cheeeeese not even insta sparking but the constant ability spam of unblockables, after image and DCing when u r losing. It's not fair or balanced

[@ofrvnk]

being able to run the entire match for free is also very unbalanced

[@dj-irish-boywindu8379]

Even the commentators can't comment over the gameplay they are so bored waiting for the match to end. 😴

[@Purity-Dread]

For real! Watching the 2nd match of the grand finals and none of them are saying anything

[@EverythingOMARZ]

Ppl don’t play games for fun anymore. The moment they put in ranked mode I already knew players were gonna use broken mechanics and exploits. That being said there still are things Bandai need to fix but it’s a different era than when bt3 came out

[@cryguy0000]

It doesn't help that bots in single player aren't fun to fight. So the only fulfilling combat is against other people

[@lostvayne9146]

no its esports. the moment they start having money involved is the death of the FGC.

[@TheBigDynamo]

I truly think having a ranked mode in this game was the dumbest decision they've done for the game. Feels like an afterthought that they included just because most online games have some form of a ranked system. I just can't see a world where this game and ranked would have ever cooked

[@chickenwarlordx2703]

@@TheBigDynamoI can if stuff like up and down flight was punishable and insta spark had a downside. Plz stop acting like this game is impossible to balance

[@dancooke8811]

So true, everything is set up to exploit power-ups and/or others' weaknesses.

[@irvinmorales1409]

Some games just aren’t meant to be competitive. This game is a prime example.

[@introvertidiot1502]

yeah, but all the games are meant to be fun. Whatever I witnessed, was not. And it can be pulled off by a literal scrub.

[@Velindian]

The thing is, it could be, but it ain't right now.

[@Pack52022]

It could be the potential is there just feedback that needs to be listened to

[@erichthegraham]

I think the issue is that the only way this game could have been fun long term is if they made it just a bit more competitive. A lot of people were acting like leaving the game a broken mess was some sort of noble thing, which is odd. Also, it's pretty clear that they never had any intention of taking the game in the direction it needs to go, but it's still disappointing.

[@CyrusIsnt]

​@@erichthegrahamthe game does not need to be competive. 😂😂 stop trying to fit the square block in the circle.

[@GodFist_IX]

Not every game needs to be competitive

[@PopoTCG]

Sure. But this is bad design

[@SoapyBowl]

This is what happens when all the online bots keep saying "We want zero balance!" and the devs actually release a game with zero balance. Bandai and Jun Furutani should REALLY pick who they choose to listen to carefully 💀

[@iamnotweak9259]

Neither of you tards, thats for sure.

[@gaming.golden]

so tired of games listening to random NPCs instead of the scientific type people who dissect the game

[@dantheman5052]

Nah it's still good it's not balance that's Tenkaichi u new players needa stick to xenovese u don't like it

[@Clashy69]

@@dantheman5052 tenkaichi was never like this LMAO they didnt even have online, its 2024 not 2005

[@simonjeremy1776]

This just shows that you would never survive the old tenkaichi games. These were never meant to be a competitive fighting game

[@MrAznable]

This is why I hate modern gaming. The series was never meant to be hyper competitive but we live in an era where you can't just enjoy something that puts player vs player against each other without people trying to make it the next global tournament game. This is why everyone bought it but most people dropped it after facing sweats in ranked grinding 24/7. I played a ton of Tenkaichi 2 and 3 with my friends back in the day but we all know the game was just for fun. "High level play" kills the fun in games like this.

[@fizzyjizz7374]

"High level play" feels bad because the game's mechanics are awful. 99% of people's complaints with the game have virtually nothing do with "sweats" and everything to do with how people online are able to abuse bad game design to cheese out a win. That and the customization and story mode are quite subpar.

[@OmegaTheoryX]

You realise this is a official legit tournament by the company who made this game right. They are trying to make it competitive

[@Peacefulskater]

Bt2 and 3 are made way better for competitive though and because of that those games will live longer unless they fix the mess that is this game. I wanna play this game long term but it’s hard for me to want to when the game is an unbalanced mess And I don’t mean characters. The actual mechanics of the game feel bad if you plan on playing the game outside of just for fun with friends. It’s still hype, but you get caught side stepping on opponents. Movement feels horrible as there is some sort of invisible wall in the way of maneuvering over or below people. Not a thing in old bt games

[@RedMoonLoop]

Nothing here is "high level" these players aren't sweating. In fact they are showing that this game doesn't need to high level skills to play and win. Actually balancing the game would make it better for all skill levels

[@mifaro2255]

The Competitive BT3 and BT2 community make the enjoyment of those games even higher with their discoveries of advanced mechanics like the "enigma dash" or "flanking" while Sparking zero has nothing to please both casual and hardcore audiences. The game has poorly balanced mechanics that allow characters like 19 and 20 to get away with a camping playstyle. The players showed that, and now it's up to the december patch to fix the game. What the game is meant to be is irrelevant when most people don't want to play it anymore, so whatever the game is trying to accomplish, it failed at it. Btw, as @DarkEntityTheory said, this is an official tournament. Everyone says the game is meant to be "unbalanced", but when the developpers said it, they always meant character stats, not mechanics, otherwise that would mean that 19 and 20 were meant to be top tier, it's obviously not what was intended.

[@play4keeps77]

They should add that fatigue feature after using the sparking mode

[@jamends1220]

If you want a competitive DB fighting game just play FighterZ. This game definately isn't that and will never be that.

[@misterkeebler]

It's funny how one of the biggest complaints with the most popular modern fighters is how the mechanics heavily favor aggressiveness, yet Sparking Zero seems to be on the opposite end of the spectrum. The beginning of that set with androids flying for skill points reminded me a lot of Ken and Chun whiffing normals for meter build at the beginning of a match in Third Strike, except it happened much less often in Third Strike and was done in like 10 seconds anyway lol. Hopefully the Devs can take a real look at whats wrong with this footage and not just assume poor sportsmanship or being unserious. I'd personally love for Sparking to have a longer term fanbase. Fighterz is nice and all, but playing it tends to make me just want to play a Marvel game instead. If Sparking is a blow up...oh well. But hopefully itll get better.

[@yungslack7311]

Bro the mechanics are so badly balanced id argue its not that fun even between friends Me and my homeboy were inspired to go back to tekken I got to a rank and every fight just feels the same lol Unless you and the other guy make a deliberate attempt to make it dramatic and fun its just what was seen above, or you dont do the above and lose to the above 1:35 this is why i left sparking zero the playerbase is soooo shameless its actually palpable 9:20 items beung exploited theres no end to the nonsense wow

[@rocketman093]

I was just telling my friends I wish they played Tekken but they just want to play this cuz it's easy lol

[@johnmaco]

Agree with Tekken issue. I quit it recently and I had already spent years playing the franchise. T8 is just bad after the "honeymoon phase", same happened with Sparking Zero. It's amazing how quickly these games fail when they focus more on how pretty the visuals look instead of focusing on gameplay. At this point I'm trying other fighting games to decide which to stick to...

[@black0614.]

Tekken takes skill… this game is just character bases

[@Android-Twenty-One]

​@@johnmaco I disagree with Tekken 8 being bad tbh. But you can feel like it's bad if that's your opinion. Ironically my most played game of this year is Marvel vs Capcom Fighting Arcade Collection

[@TSDragun]

It’s funny to me that a DRAGON BALL GAME has 0 honor from the fans just a bunch of losers using cheap tactics very sad

[@ZombieaidZ]

That's just about all games these days. Ppl gotta have that #1 in their stream title, and get their clips. Games are a way for ppl to make a living instead of enjoying them like ppl used to

[@notcreativename1285]

That seems to be most of the mainstream anime communities these days though imo. Guess those shows attract these kinds of people easily since it's popular and filled with the same tropes they like. Now these communities are just filled with inmature and annoying people that act nothing like you'd expect if you consider what they are a fan of.

[@RoKtheReaper]

This is a pretty dumb way to think. Fighting Games in general will always be played competitively.

[@darkzeroprojects4245]

​@@ZombieaidZ pretty much one of the reasons modern gaming sucks. I can go on all day about big companies and their horrid practices they keep shoving down our throats, or when mindless consumers and fans keep buying from them regardless if they abused their employees, but when fans and such are like this, I partly give blame to them also. I want to make games but I have low expectations for any by default because of how the modern gaming environments are now.

[@TSDragun]

@@RoKtheReaper this isn’t a competitive fighting game, it’s a Dragon Ball game if you want to play a fighting game go play something else, this game won’t be at evo and nobody will think of it competitively so maybe your thinking Dumb friendo

[@binkl2844]

The ones that say “This game isn’t supposed to be balanced” are the ones playing Gotega, Z Broly, Android 19, Gero, Reccoome, yajirobe and all the broken cheese. Played the game for 2 weeks straight and I swear im the only person that played Garlic Jr

[@thesilentsociety3252]

Yajirobe is broken 😂🤣

[@Undertaker93]

Just say you're bad lil bro

[@Maximum0001]

@@Undertaker93lol okay “undertaker93”. Your input was needed here. PFP is classic btw

[@KingJadInfiniteHope]

that’s on you then who th plays garlic jr? i don’t even have the game but complaining about what people are using, while using GARLIC JR is on you.

[@og_mante5138]

The game is based on an anime with characters that vary wildly in strength. Why would the game be balanced?

[@perfectlap9379]

"hindsight is 20/20" nah, i disagree. We've plenty of actual fighters that went down this path. We've seen this story before but people don't wanna listen sadly.

[@codered1132]

Cough cough Tekken 8 cough cough

[@Mr.MasterOfTheMonsters]

As someone who doesn't play Online, I thought both of them were just trolling. Knowing one of the players was still being serious and trying to play "as intended" makes the situation so much more stupid.

[@e69alpha]

What exactly were they doing i dont understand

[@jetsetdrift]

So we gonna act like CaptainZack & Lima didn't so something similar at EVO in 2018 with the Bayonetta mirror match 🤔

[@espurrseyes42]

What they did was worse honestly since the ONLY reason they did it was to be petty over being hated for playing Bayonetta. At least these guys had a good reason for making a fool out of themselves, the event, and the game.

[@RealMikeHollow]

Yeah, slightly different reasons. What they did in Smash was not the same because this is a legit strategy in the game.

[@joshuaknox2724]

youtube is crazy, we went from every youtuber hyping and shilling this game to every youtuber making sparking zero is trash flopped videos, as if we have fish brain. whoever subscribes to channels like afrosenju, rhymstyle and those trashy channels where they just scream down the mic are donuts, they dont care about you.

[@Impalingthorn]

Yup. People obsessed over it and treated it like it was the next big thing for about a month or so, then everything went suspiciously quiet out of nowhere. I had actually forgotten about it for a hot minute (I hadn't actually had enough time to play it as much as I would have liked) up until this video. Now everyone hates it seemingly overnight. Like, should I even go back to it at this point? All my friends stopped playing it, I didn't even think about it until now but they all went back to FF14 and just stopped playing this entirely.

[@RandomBlackGamer]

@@joshuaknox2724 opinions are subject to change overnight. The main reason the game got so much hype was because it's been almost 20 years since a sequel to the main Sparking series was released. It's a solid game. People just didn't expect there to be an overwhelming amount of abuse when it comes to busted mechanics in online matches. And it's okay to voice your opinion on that.

[@Digital.midori]

I agree and I’m disappointed about it too. I know afro just hypes up any hot new game, playes a few months at best and moves on but rhyme style was actually a clown this time around. Dude was calling it “literally Tenkaichi 4” and praising everything about the game before release. Even was playing the game early. Now game comes out and he’s suddenly “too busy” to play the game and even makes a video titled “sparkling zero is unplayable”. That’s clown shit and he obviously just wanted that shill money and bandai connections.

[@ZzigZaG00NIN]

@@Digital.midori Tbf to Rhyme since it was before the game came out he didn't know what he knows now and only saw the potential of the game Even liking the game opinions can change when you get the full experience

[@Digital.midori]

@@RandomBlackGameropinions changing is fine. But these same people who said this game is amazing and just like Tenkaichi 3 are full of bs. They played the game ALOT before release. And they call themselves “Tenkaichi vets”. They should have noticed things like perception being able to be spammed, and especially the date you get skill bars. They should have noticed how the vanish battles are. But no, they’d rather complain about the camera spin and “dimension change” when you do a ki blast battle.

[@commenter178]

Crazy how everyone hates this game now I still love it. I dont play it competitively and i never expected to be. BT3 was casual back then and sparking zero is too. There are stuff to fix but I dont think this game will be a evo game.

[@VvV-tn7mq]

Me too, but i play with friends or just casually offline just messing around with characters. I absolutely refuse to touch ranked lol.

[@benstiller7910]

0:19 how tf did vegeta recover

[@erichthegraham]

This game has unintentionally done a lot to forward the conversation of game balance and "competitive viability." When the game dropped everybody was happy to have a game that was "Dumb fun" without really being serious about what that does to a game's lifespan. It's hard to stay interested in something that is has zero consideration for the long term. If the skill ceiling of a game isn't fun, then that's one less incentive to improve. I'm happy to own the game, especially since it gave me a reason not to take ranked mode super serious (an attitude which I intend to cultivate in my other games), but I'm more interested in learning Tekken/Virtua Fighter or getting to Master rank in SF6, no point wasting grind time on SZ if it's just a party game to play with friends that don't like fighting games. I do wish things had been different for this game, it could have been THE arena fighter, but oh well. Edit: When MK1 had that Sindel/Jax looping unblockable, it was considered controversial that it was banned mid tournament. Not picking a side there, but compare and contrast with this SZ "play seriously," and you'll see why this is silly. Even in the midst of that controversy, it was generally understood that its the devs responsibility to fix it in the long term, and that the tournament ban was a short term solution. Telling players to play seriously like that's not exactly what they are doing is pretty cringe.

[@commenter178]

Thats my thoughts the game can be balanced more for sure but be made into a sweaty comptetive game is not the way I think it needs to go. Balance sime unfun things and its good to go. Tekken for me is the game where I play comptetive

[@bobbywilliams1128]

Remember people, Bumco thought their highest priority was to nerf Yajirobe

[@thesilentsociety3252]

Because people we’re salty about getting bodied Yajirobe instead of learning their character's strength

[@Bendoesboxing]

@@thesilentsociety3252Tbf, the yajirobe strategy was build skill points, senzu bean then win by time out

[@bobbywilliams1128]

@Bendoesboxing That was still no where near as bad as the exploit being shown. At least you were still able to attack Yajirobe and kill him before he had the chance to heal

[@DownNDirtyGaming]

😂😂 jokes on everyone best part is yajirobe is still amazing

[@JayceCH.]

@@bobbywilliams1128 Thats just wrong. 1 vanish war, and Yajirobe gets enough Skill Point to activate Senzu a 2nd time. All the Yajirobe has to know is how to play defense. Its the same concept as Android 19 and Gero, but lower skill floor because the dragon dash movement takes more skill than mashing Super Counter. The other stuff at least has a chance of. Also, Android 19 and Gero not consuming Ki on dashing is a clear oversight considering that 16, 17, and 18 do consume.

[@TheJatonEffect]

Crazy that y'all looked at how Tekken 8 has gone and expected much from this game.

[@j.i.nthenobody54]

Tekken 8 isn’t this level of unbalanced. At least Tekken is entertaining to watch

[@Kai-jn7pn]

@@j.i.nthenobody54 Tekken 8 entertaining to watch? Disagree but okay...

[@j.i.nthenobody54]

@@Kai-jn7pn and you’d rather watch two mfs going up and down for 90 seconds?

[@cayde6362]

@@j.i.nthenobody54 *crickets*

[@nathanbrewer408]

@@Kai-jn7pnCompared to this shit or MK1, bro tekken 8 is a masterpiece

[@TrueReverse74]

The game is mechanically bad and this is what happens when you don't iron out those issues and people want to be apologists for this game talking about "it's supposed to be unbalanced" or "It shouldn't be taken seriously" or whatever buzz phrase people mindlessly spout, but also fail to realize that every game can be optimized whether you like it or not, Mario kart and mario party can be optimized, Sonic can be optimized, souls games can be optimized, Tryhards will exist everywhere, It's not about having OP characters or a Meta because that's just the nature of any fighting games, what's important is having good mechanics that incentivise fun DESPITE the competitive side of things. This is why smash bros succeeds because even though that was designed with the casual in mind, the competitive side can get a kick of the depth that the game offers since those people who are hardcore are in it for the long run. This was understood 17 years ago and people wanna act surprised like this wasn't common sense. This game didn't even release with a player quick match which just shows how undercooked and untested most of this stuff was. The game should be balanced, but balanced around Fun and the shit that you saw in that tournament is exactly what needs to be patched out. Competition isn't ruining anything, the devs making a mechanically illiterate game is the problem.

[@younggod4202]

it’s hilariously ironic that the same people saying “it’s supposed to be unbalanced because Gogeta should be way stronger than Videl!” are the same ones wanting nerfs or changes. like every single game has managed to keep their characters “lore-accurate” while also making a balanced game. look at Fighterz for example, another DB game. all the fusions are top tier while also being balanced. in street fighter, akuma is always ridiculously strong but he’s still relatively balanced. i don’t know why all of a sudden when it came to this game, people just decided to forget that “lore-accurate” means NOTHING when balancing a game

[@The_One_Eyed_Rouge]

Kinda disagree with Mario kart. But I kinda see where you're coming from at the same time.

[@LevTheChosenOne]

Exactly ❤

[@introvertidiot1502]

5:40 I can't believe this, but he is not even trolling

[@miles6120]

“Stop showcasing how bad our game is. 🔫”

[@DevilRising]

I mean it’s an anime arena fighter what was to be expected? Even like 20 years ago the meme was people only do tournaments for these games at anime cons loool

[@fluidwolf]

This is silly as this is goofy even by arena fighter standards. Like you would likely not see anyone playing competitively in Naruto Storm and just running back and forth in front of the other player with neither attempting to attack.

[@notcreativename1285]

This game has no proper local multiplayer aside from 1 stage and the single player content is dry as hell with extremely bad AIs. The main appeal is multiplayer then yet there people can just exploit the unbalanced aspects of this game so they do it. I guess people at least expected that it would offer something to properly enjoy for that big price tag. Makes sense too.

[@MeidoYasha]

​@@fluidwolf Rev meta no rules is the only storm where you actually run away from each other with health lead and bait each other into counters, otherwise most of storm at every level just about is mash and dash

[@Animavestra69]

Sparking zero is a great game with serious flaws, like I think even tekken 8 is in a better state in terms of plugging plus systematically broken system mechanics, like heat is bad but the stupid flying up and down with gero and android 19 shit I deal with and the vanish wars and switching out like damn, and instant sparking and very hard to break out of unblockable ultimates like no wonder the competitive isn’t taken seriously

[@CelllIsPerfect]

The new age of gaming has killed "Just have fun" games. This was for the fans, not y'all. Not the fgc 💀

[@jackk.4670]

Im a bit skeptical here, since the fgc are the ones who just point and laugh whenever they see an arena fighter. The way I see it, these fans are the ones trying to make this game a competitive fighting game, which is something Sparking Zero isn't.

[@Rodniikun]

Hmm i swear i was saying something like this before the hame came and everyone said how wrong i was.

[@batboythecool]

This was embarrassingly bad 😂

[@KLOTEROLEROTAR]

this is what happens when neckbeards take a party game seriously and apply a competitive mindset to it. same thing happened at smash evo 2018. people got mad that the grand finals was just people goofing around in a PARTY GAME

[@batboythecool]

@KLOTEROLEROTAR I tried warning people that I knew make everything competitive. Ranked mode is a mistake. This is and always will be a party game for fans to play with the homies. I expect this game to end up like the op burning blood community. It'll have it's own dedicated fans that know what they signed up for. We'll probably get back to the old bt3 days when we filter out the sweats and quitters.

[@danhibiki2]

Arena fighters arent made to be esports competitive. Its a party game you play with your friends so you can look at cool animations after pressing a button.

[@nikoprower32]

And yet, some arena fighters do have a competitive scene...Naruto Ninja Storm has one, Kill La Kil: IF has one, My Hero Academia: One Hero's Justice has one...I think the only arena fighter that doesn't, as far as I know, is Jump Force. You can find competitive scenes for games that aren't even multiplayer if you look hard enough. Something...people clearly don't either want to or never tried to do

[@DivineZenkai]

Ok but the one thing you "ItS nOt SuPpOsEd To Be CoMpEtItVe" people don't understand is that it isn't even fun at a casual level either because we have people that hop on the game and constantly exploit the cheesy oversights in the game. I would love to hop on and do dumb shit in the game with funny characters but I can't because online is infested with the same 3 characters all using the same bs strats. We aren't asking for this game to be an evo level competitive game featured on a mainstage. Obviously it will never reach that level of depth and ingenuity. But I just want a game to where we can do cool shit and combos etc. I don't wanna just get knocked away into an unblockable ult every game

[@xbgsheikiii3593]

The moment they added ranked it was meant to be played at some type of high level. But most people overlook it to say its not supposed to be competitive

[@standheaykic66]

​@nikoprower32 you forget the part where in Naruto Storm most of player will pick Minato or Madara.

[@trapmatrix5942]

@@standheaykic66Madara isn’t that good in Storm Connections. Minato is kinda popular though… how he is in every naruto game whether he’s actually good or not.

[@kingkold-_-9480]

2:23 Im watching it and all i can say is big ups to them for using this opportunity to show what NEEDS to change. I see a patch for it coming real soon

[@why7868]

Theres definitely counter play: don't try to play a party game competitively without strict rules. Fighter Z is right there if you want competitive dbz.

[@ac04project]

Defensivr play is oppressive, defensive moves vost little to no ki and can be spammed and offensive moves are counterable and cost a shit ton of ki even just to gapclosr

[@JDerpyDoesStuff]

People like you are gonna kill the game with that mindset

[@solaris3251]

​@@JDerpyDoesStuffAgree. You cannot just dictate how someone is suppose to play a game. Every fighting game nowdays needs balancing, is the competitive fighting community that keeps the game alive.

[@Aceemike]

@@solaris3251thank you just don’t play rank SKILL ISSUE!!!😂 and people are gonna come back when the dlc come out

[@Edmitsu]

You’re part of the problem

[@TheSenjuShow]

intentionally dancing with each other is not really "exposing" a game tho... these dudes are clowns if he used the flying to show how easy it was to dodge the opponent then okay, but they BOTH didnt put in any effort. Just danced together. Neither even tried to attack. You can do that in any game? lmao wtf that proved nothing. Effectively the same as standing and emoting together. or just moving around... 6:00 He didnt even try to overcome it tho so this showcased nothing. Watching a "pro" player try to overcome this cheesy tech wouldve been good to see but this was a sack of nothing

[@dinolover]

The sweaty tryhards are upset that 2 finalists didnt treat the game as a sweaty tryhard simulation even though this was obviously clear from day 1. Clowns actually thought a game with Yajirobe and Jiren would be completely even and balanced.

[@Kingtay011]

⬆️ maximum cope

[@mifaro2255]

@@dinolover And Yajirobe is the one that got nerfed.

[@dinolover]

@@Kingtay011 and yet I'm not the one making a video crying about it. Go play MK1 if you want balance.

[@dinolover]

@@mifaro2255 which is hilarious, might be the same with chaoitzu soon

[@65firered]

The online for this game should be secondary to the offline specifically because it's NOT a competitive fighter. The series is not built for competitive online matches, it's not built for esports and ranked matches. It's primarily a single player game with multiplayer as a secondary optional mode. The footage was absolutely hilarious though! But seriously they got their priorities mixed up with this game. The best way to describe this game is that it's an offline game put into the competitive fighter scene. They shouldn't have ranked and tournaments for this game especially when there are issues with the single player experience as well. But it's too late to go back, they have to fix and properly balance the game.

[@ITakeFromTheHomeless]

This is a modern game in a modern era, it’s nice that it’s like BT3 but in the time of online gaming, there needs to be balances to the cheese mechanics and penalties to the rage quitters. However some characters being stronger than others is a given.

[@uhhhhhhhhh333]

I remember all the people saying we want zero balance I’m tired of comp games 😢😢 u got want you wanted don’t cry now

[@ShiniRyuga]

well that's not what's the issue rn. We got what we wanted the problem is they added comp modes to non comp fighting game. Why does a game like this even have a ranked mode?

[@CyrusIsnt]

​@@ShiniRyugapeople asked 😂

[@bailarconlatinas5032]

yeah honestly im tired of all the crying

[@dochallah1721]

trust me those people aren't crying. The only people crying about the balance of this game are the same people that cry about the balance of every fighting game. This dudes entire channel is crying about balance. Bro made a career off of crying but his echo chamber is saying people like me are crying when I genuinely enjoy the game

[@dochallah1721]

@@ShiniRyuga bro if you don't enjoy ranked don't play it wtf don't be upset they included something people like me wanted. ranked mode can't hurt you if you don't play it stop being so scared wittle baby

[@j2lewis]

i think you hit the nail on the head by saying that Bamco played themselves by hosting an official tournament for the game after going out of their way to say how the game was designed to be broken lol. I love the game quite a bit, it has some issues but i do feel like the game has a ton of out of the box value, a lot of characters and really feels like the return to that Tenkaichi formula i loved but in this age with better online and more desire for competition i think they got their wires crossed. the combat system clearly doesn't have things thought through to the point where the fun stuff is nigh impossible to execute in a real pvp match much less a high level one. Idk what to propose system mechanic wise because id want to make sure the game has its spirit and doesn't get turned into a competitive fighter that it doesn't need to be, but clearly they need to overhaul enough or have some sort of competitive mode created that changes things for these types of things if they want to keep a tournament series going. im sure its not gonna reflect well if it keeps going like this

[@CyrusIsnt]

No they didnt people asked so the gave it to them

[@Impalingthorn]

This is why I said what I said about how this "shouldn't be treated as a competitive game". Nevermind whether or not it's a Fighting Game, Bandai Namco just clearly didn't build it with competitive competition in mind which makes this whole tournament baffling for even existing in the first place. For the record, before anyone says it, just because I don't believe it should be competitive doesn't mean it doesn't deserve proper balance adjustments. Fun can be compromised by broken mechanics too, not saying it can't. I used to play a ton of Playstation Allstars and the bane of my existence when I ran duos with my buddy was running into a Kratos every match. In SCV, it was Natsu. So on so forth. If a game isn't competitive, then it should be fun at the very least and any elements that compromise the fun should be looked at closely. Here, these players basically just demonstrated exactly what the problems are and why this tournament never should have happened.

[@godfrey4461]

Yet they were dumb enough to put in a ranked mode. Enough said.

[@Impalingthorn]

@godfrey4461 Yup. Honestly I don't know why every game these days want a Ranked Mode. In games like these I feel it's a lot better to have accolades where people can just rate your profile based in how you play, that way at a glance someone can tell if you're fun to fight against, annoying, or really sweaty and play top ranked characters. They should have just left Ranked out.

[@DmoYuKusho]

Unfortunately the community will just say “it’s sUpPosEd to bE uNbaLaNceD” or “iTs nOt SuPpOseD tO bE cOmPeTiTiVe” but just because we ask for certain things doesn’t= competitive. It has online play/DP BATTLE so objectively it needs certain patches. It wouldn’t be a fun experience for anyone casual or not. Most ppl think this game is perfect and they tell you to “cope, me and my friends have fun offline” as if online doesn’t exist. That’s like me making a restaurant and having items on the menu only me and my employees like and forgetting everyone else😭💀

[@HiHeyo-u6s]

That restaurant reference is perfect😭💀 FACTS. Just because we ask for certain fixes doesn’t mean we want it to be competitive.

[@65firered]

It was their decision to make this game that's clearly not designed as a competitive fighter to be competitive fighter. Now, they're stuck with the consequences which is to fix this game to be properly balanced for competitive matches. We do have to acknowledge the issue here, Bandai listened to people who weren't thinking this game was meant to be competitive to the point of having tournaments. You would think that alone would be reason enough to double check what people thought this game was.

[@masterpiece4975]

Damn where are the comments that condemned me for saying this a month ago ? Not mad at y’all, just use your own brain next time and stop being sheep

[@Universalbeing0]

They will never listen. People should have known this game was going to be garbage because we're talking about Spike Chunsoft here 😂

[@Bair-sensei]

This game is actually fun and entertaining when really good players fight i play with Z ranks all day long sometimes getting lost in endless lobbies not only waiting for my turn but watching people fight these guys are trolls

[@DJYC21215]

Tenkaichi was the peak of Dragonball games.

[@phenom504]

Besides what happened in the grand finals which was hilarious, what I also think is funny is that even though I also enjoy this game, I never thought in my mind that this would be taken seriously as a competitive fighting game. It’s an arena fighter that just feels more about mashing and having fun as opposed to games like Tekken or Street Fighter, where people can also mash and have fun, but they have been established for years as being more technical and harder to master. I don’t think Sparking Zero was ever intentionally made to be balanced or in the same category as the others. Its possible for Bamco to fix things and make more attempts for people to take it more serious, but honestly it doesn’t have to be taken seriously. As long as it’s fun for people to play and it’s making money, then that’s that.

[@matiasblanco2029]

That's exactly it. For some reason, I don't know if its Bandai itself or what, they're pushing it as a tournament viable game, which is completely wrong. You have to fully overhaul the game and its mechanics if you want to do that, and it kinda goes against its original purpose. Big L here.

[@dracoblizzard7944]

Who could have forseen that the type of game that was designed to be played on a couch with friends wouldn't work when online ranked was added to it? I can't believe no one predicted this and said it verbatim before release!

[@fluidwolf]

You certainly didn't predict this because this isn't an issue with online or ranked. These are issues with the base mechanics and are present in offline casual play as well. Just because little timmy and his group of friends possibly wouldnt know how broken it is doesn't stop it from being broken.

[@dracoblizzard7944]

@@fluidwolf The OG Tenkaichi games were designed to be played by little timmy and his group of friends. Back in 2007 modern internet guide/tutorial culture didn't exist, and you weren't expected to learn all the parts of the game that were broken. The problem here is the online ranked era, many players will search the internet for the best strategies to win, and play to win to climb the ladder. The game mechanics needed to be adjusted for this, but they weren't. They tried to be faithful to the old games when the old games are horribly outdated.

[@KLOTEROLEROTAR]

exactly. the tenkaichi series is a series of PARTY GAMES. they're supposed to be a broken mess. finding something goofy by chance is part of the fun. its no more broken than tenkaichi 2 or 3 were. its just no life competitive andies putting it under a microscope and only using the broken slop that would normally be found by chance and deemed hilarious at a college party

[@xxxrobinhorx]

If it don't work online why host official online tournaments?

[@xxxrobinhorx]

@@KLOTEROLEROTARIf it's a party game why host official tournaments for money? They were obviously developing this to be a hit in competitive fighting gameplay, this is not bdt2 and in bdt2 there were few if any official tournaments

[@Eddy_Grimm]

It's not DLC we need, It's TLC. o7, PEACE.

[@Fac0999]

Name of the song at the end

[@Urbanboy732]

Damn, and i use the androids Cause I mained them in BT3. I never used that strat

[@MobDraws69]

This situation makes me even more hesitant to buy the game. I love dragon ball, and to see a game with a roster as big as the one in this game where I can assemble a team of my fav villains was a high like no other. Now, because the devs have conflicting visions for the game, idk if I want to spend $60 or so to get one-tapped by a broken combination of characters or get timed out like what happened in the tournament footage.

[@TheoLeeRonin]

Looks like the honeymoon phase is over. I told yall mfs this game wasn't gonna last 😅

[@100_funsshatta]

i still fw it. but thats because i never touched or plan on touching online lol this game having online always felt weird to me even before release because dragonball is unbalanced asf😂 beating toppo as a frieza soldier is hilarious as hell

[@TheoLeeRonin]

@100_funsshatta I'm just glad I didn't invest into the game. Not many games I'd miss out on but this one was a definite MISS.

[@xbgsheikiii3593]

It genuinely been 2 weeks since i forgot about this game, i remember my page being bombed on all my medias when it came out until 2 weeks ago It’s just sad man

[@DagmarAyala]

The game isn't dead yet the December patch is what will determine the fate of this game

[@TheoLeeRonin]

@@DagmarAyala it's dead bro accept it lmao

[@zirotsero6951]

I welcome the idea of changing DP cost to help balance. The idea of have like 2 characters with high DP seems very dead rn, ESPECIALLY since it’s so easy to transform

[@willpeters__]

Them flying up and down 😂😂😂😂 is fucking wild 😂😂😂😂

[@chakrabeatz]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@2KCustomerService]

I bought this game for my son and all he does is create custom battles 😂

[@shoken4421]

Bro said Bandai only cares about money when their still dropping dlc on xenoverse despite how old the game is,then there's Bandai tryna recover from the heihachi dlc and stage dlc that the fans were mad about ,but hey Bandai isn't listening RIGHT? What about the soul calibur 20th anniversary video that dropped ? This dbz game isn't meant to be like sf or mortal combat or tekken . Maximilian dood said it himself, don't take this game seriously or you'll be disappointed , exactly how would you make a game like this fair and competitive? Hmm let's see nerf everyone with two life bars,make everything lockable make counter attacks take two blast stocks for every use and make everyone charge slow. What that sounds boring? That's why this game was NEVER meant to be competitive. DUH

[@TunaPogluga]

Bamco gets a ton of backlash before they start listening. Genmaji Temple still costs $5 and cannot be bought with tekken coins so the reimbursement didn’t do anything…

[@potheadraccoon8536]

clean your mouth when you re done bro

[@DavidWilliams-nu3en]

This game was meant to be enjoyed by friends on a couch. Its not a damn competitive fighting game. Never had been. If you looking for that... Well you need to look elsewhere. Not disrespect. But its what I thinking before i bought or played the game. 🤷

[@pretender1456]

A game that isnt meant to be competitive should not have held tournaments or done "balance adjustments."

[@Yvxha]

not competitive implies that some characters are more broken than others, not that the game mechanics get botchered allowing plays like this to happen.

[@SirVolt]

I still don't fully understand why they are taking this game competitively: if this Is a spiritual sequel of the Budokai Series, why Is everyone Surprised of the unbalance? Let the game have goofy funny unbalanced shit and don't take It as "serious fighting game"

[@Psycho360Gamer]

this is why we cant have nice fun things anymore...all you crybabies come out bitching about a game that's not even ever meant to be taking serious in the first place and its a big mistake on there part for hosting a tournament for this type of game knowing weirdos will simply use cheesy exploits rather than actually duking it out. Everything is so "technical" now trying to find the cheesist easiest method to win its lame and im skilled at most fighting games in general including sparking but i still refuse to spam techniques or cheese just for a simple victory and manage to make fights not only fun for myself but also my opponent sparking is a really good dbz game in fact its the best one to date, But it is unbalanced being that its true to its source material and i dont want my dragonball games any other way.

[@zebrom7994]

It’s a game you play for fun when your friends/family are over. Doesn’t have to be for sweats

[@giantdinoboy8264]

It's generally better for a game to be too agressive than too defensive. To be honest a simple game where inaction, not defense, is rewarded, it isn't fun and Sparking Zero really exemplifies this for me. Edit: Making active defense bad is the worst design decision that every modern fighting game seems to make. Tekken 8 low parry is less rewarding (I personally like this one because I like poking with lows but pokes aren't really valued in Tekken 8 with other ways to open the opponent up like chip damage and heat so I don't think supporting poking was part of this design decision.) , Street Fighter 6 guard cancel costs too much relative to the risk/reward, Guilty Gear Strive's deflect shield just returns to neutral and costs the same as a wild assault which has so many more advantages from corner carrying combos (attached to most of the cast) to a safe approach tool (attached to slower characters) to a pressure extender that removes throw protection (usually attached to mix-up focused characters). To elaborate on this, I think a lack of engaging defensive options may be why so many people who play a lot of modern fighting games complain despite the great balance and why so many people love Street Fighter 3rd Strike despite the game sucking for people who want to play a mid tier (Necro players rise up!).

[@Sorain1]

The fact that the AI becomes more passive the higher the difficulty goes suggests it was an intended design decision, and I'd argue a very poor one.

[@djephalpha]

Every other tournament has already ruled around these strats but no, these TOs felt like they knew better and ignored all fifty glowing neon red flags. If only they'd listened to, y'know, the entire goddamn community and banned these characters like everyone else

[@rainegingerfish8860]

But it’s not a competitive fighting game though

[@akumasrevenge240]

Facts

[@potheadraccoon8536]

the offline is doodoo too goofy

[@dochallah1721]

@@potheadraccoon8536 you're offended when people like things you don't. No one will ever agree with you go seethe

[@potheadraccoon8536]

@@dochallah1721 i put 80 hours in this game mate its hogwash and you re a goofy

[@Joe-k8l8z]

@@dochallah1721 i agree with him though? offline ai is braindead easy

[@PotatoBoi25]

8:19 Poor guy. Feels like his time has been wasted 😢

[@ippo9563]

It simply not a competitive Game, its a Bandai Namco game like always, beside Tekken and DBFZ. I remember when some folkes said that they want sparking Zero in EVO 😂😂😂😂. I always says this game is just a cash grab for Bandai, its not a real fighting game. We had the demonstration in this "tournament"

[@GambitX37]

If it's not a competitive game, why is its main gamemode an online ranked mode? Why is Bandai-Namco organizing competitive tournaments for it?

[@ippo9563]

@GambitX37 Because Bandai made this game for DB's fan and the "fun" mindset, like toys we buy for kids. They confirm at the start that the game will not be made under the competitive vision. And when the game sold well, they want to do a "fun" tournament for some delusional dudes. Because why not take more money?

[@spartanAXA]

Can someone explain why were they flying up and down? They could also just stand there and wait till the skill baar filled up it that's what they wanted to do

[@darkchaozbringer785]

When we tried to tell you people all of this initially, you people dismissed us. Now, after taking something like this to happen for things to finally "click", you same lot have the surprised pikachu face. Better late than never I suppose.

[@SuperMandibleclaw]

no one cares about competitive though

[@martinrodriguez1329]

Ok so here me out, I completely agree that if it's possible, it's because the developer allowed it and therefore is responsible. BUT, in the end, it's still a game, which means that the player is there to have fun as long as there's no money involved. Tournaments do involve money, so I'm not mad at the players on the video, but online lobbies? If you find a player doing these on a lobby, that's totally the player's fault for not understanding the meaning of playing a game.

[@alexandermccalla5098]

I was wondering why they were using the androids. I’ve been playing the game but just the story. What exactly were they showing? The androids ki is constantly regenerating so they can spam super rising and descend?

[@dhayris160]

Their dragon dash costs no ki, so they can spam it. They're also the best counters to themselves since they can't drain each other's energy. The match is also timed, so if you can't catch them, they win on time if they manage to tag you a few times.

[@JustaGlytch]

The game has inconsistent scaling just like the show. It's true to the series. Don't take it too seriously and just enjoy it for what it is.

[@spaceduck4132]

The Sparking series was never a real fighting game, it's a DRAGON BALL game. It's *mostly* accurate, it has power creep, and it looks flashy. The game being unbalanced is done on purpose and is very much so how all the old dragon ball games are. The second someone picked Kid Buu back then was time to lock the hell in, or the SSJ4 characters who just did massive damage. Sparking Zero is a dragon ball game, not a fighting game, and I love it for that.

[@DaGreatCedji]

Yeah, but you're okay with the system mechanics being the way they are right now? I mean, even as a "dragon ball game," this shit STILL doesn't look fun, bruv

[@chillanfly3893]

so why have a ranked mode, and why organize tournaments? It doesn't look like you have the game, but just to let you know, this game has a ranked mode. When the game is not supposed to be competitive like you said!!! And why even have a tournament for a NON COMPETIRIVE GAME!!!! Baffles my mind

[@bigge1002]

all I hear are lame cope excuses for dev laziness

[@notcreativename1285]

mostly accurate? Nah bro if it was mostly accurate then characters like Whis, MUI, Jiren, Beerus, Frieza and etc could one shot the entire cast almost. Tf?

[@imtolazythinkofausernameso3698]

I don't think Dr. gero and 19 can win against ui goku😭

[@storyrant]

One way to fix this issue might be to make it so a super rise or its inverse can't be used when at close range?

[@reallyhimongod]

That’s one thing I can give Jump Force.. the devs KNEW the game was spam central so they locked Ultimate Attacks behind a damage percentage, so in order to do any Ult in the game you had to be at around 50% health.. for SZ it’s just one skill point and that’s all it takes lol

[@Jb-tt6to]

Imma just say this, I think In the next round they’re gonna implement rules against this type of play. Since there’s a bigger spotlight. Devs are gonna leave the mechanics exactly as is, and drown us out with things that should’ve already been in the game like you said. Accessories and costumes to keep bots happy

[@MagiConch28]

Regardless of the games problems, both players should be banned for colluding. Part of competition is actually competing

[@yakiin9313]

Bootlicker

[@Yvxha]

The issue is that they were both playing seriously..

[@faisaalkamara4181]

do you know how protests work? a protest is not always going abide by the rules in place by the system that was created. in fact, most times they end up disobeying those rules. if you’re worrying about a punishment towards them, you’re missing the point. ask why are the people that stand to gain money for winning blatantly risking their chance of making that money? why would two competitors act in way that’s so opposed to their self interests?

[@Digital.midori]

@@faisaalkamara4181all that is cool but they both still colluded and should be disqualified .

[@jak9313]

​@@Digital.midori if you want a better polished game, this is a big step forward

[@Dark-xz9xt]

I don't understand why every fighting game needs to be super competitive and pushed to he at tournaments. This game should just be there to have fun play some rounds with your friend's etc not to be taken super seriously. Is it if not FighterZ job to be that kind of game in the first place

[@TheSenatorOfTruth]

i watched the grand final live was laughing all the way through and tyrant didn't look happy or impressed lol. i am a tekken player to. they was doing kanye west runaway in gaming form in the grand final.

[@alexgourdplant]

Honestly, and while the people saying “arena fighters are not proper fighting games” are still wrong - Sparking Zero won’t be taken seriously as an entry into the genre until the issues are fixed. Until then. It will be nothing more than a party game.

[@zosazsatara5889]

I don't see the point of this video, it's Dragonball, characters who fight rapidly, an arena fighter where there isn't much skill behind it other than repeatedly pressing one to three buttons on repeat. This coming from Mike Harlow on wanting skill in a fighting game that was never meant for it in the first place. 4:20 Bandai Namco never made tournaments for the game, y'all did. The game was never intended to be competitive heavy. 4:32 it's cause it's a game based off a manga, a manga that you read and get entertained by. A commemoration to Akira Toriyama, the man who made a manga to entertain an audience, not a game that was meant as some kind of sport or job. Y'all making a big deal out of this need to relax.

[@Herodotus888]

We are talking about things that completely break the gameplay here. Did you even watch the video?

[@zosazsatara5889]

@Herodotus888 Yes I did, did you read my entire comment? I find that Mike Hollow including other people in the FGC time and time again as adults who would contradict themselves over fighting games on how they're designed. 1. "We don't need supers in fighting games" Yet people never complained and enjoy fighting games of old and new that was always meant to have them. 2. "It's an arena fighter who cares" Yet bothers to make a video, complain about it's mechanics and talk about it to others. 3. "This character needs buffing and that other character needs a nerf" Yet you will lose to characters who are nerfed and is able to beat characters who are buffed regardless of who you main. 4. "Fighting games shouldn't be dumbed down, there's no skill" Yet plays an arena fighter where there's very little to do with simplistic controls to play using 2-3 buttons, where's the skill in repeatedly tapping the same buttons compared to games like SF6 and Tekken to do long combos that requires various and accurate button inputs?

[@Herodotus888]

@@zosazsatara5889 He didn't say any of that what are you even on about? You are arguing with something else entirely in your mind.

[@zosazsatara5889]

@Herodotus888 He has, especially in previous videos, don't lie.

[@RealMikeHollow]

This was one of the most incoherent comments I've ever read. Don't do drugs, kids.

[@misterc9641]

Idk it seems kinda childish to expect this game to be anything but more bt3. And it has been proven time and time again that arena fighters are not and will not be competitive at all.

[@CyrusIsnt]

I agree mike tripping

[@misterc9641]

@@CyrusIsnt like even on the video he goes on to compare it to 2d fighters which makes absolutely no sense, 2d fighters are something completely different and barely related to 3d arena fighters. like no a single soul that played fighterz is gonna think or expect the same experience from sparkling zero. its ridiculous

[@matiasblanco2029]

Yup, it's pretty much impossible to balance a game like this, even more so when its base mechanics are built around casual play. Aside from having the dbz IP and the Tenkaichi game, it's just another arena fighter, nostalgia be damned.

[@cain5235]

Didn't the same thing happened in Smash Bros. with the two Bayonettas in Grand Finals?

[@OleGrizzli]

I love this game to death, I really hope they get it together with this. This game has too much potential to leave like this. Another great video!

[@McMannigan]

This game is for chilling with your friends on the couch and just wanting to have a fun time. People out here complaining about nothing.

[@dochallah1721]

Your back and forth is freaking crazy. Either make players not use exploits but don't police them or fix the game. You're telling this to tournament organizers. The guy could have 100% made an aggressive move he just stood there punching air pretending to play. The fact that you're pretending to be fooled is obnoxious.

[@RealMikeHollow]

Tournament level fighting games don't have this nonsense in them. It's on the developers to make a game where these things don't happen cos people can just do this on ranked after hitting you a little bit with the Androids. Make a coherent game or just don't announce a world tournament.

[@FJUVHJDSR]

I'm suddenly glad Bleach rebirth of souls wouldn't have this arena fighter type of gameplay

[@ZzigZaG00NIN]

I didn't know they cut away from from the gameplay that is TOUGH I've seen people mad at them for playing like this saying that they aren't really playing the game or wanting them to play a certain way Idk why people get mad at the players for using tools the devs gave them to play the game. This is a tornment if they weren't doing this they would just be doing something else that's crazy.

[@JPROP-vb7sv]

These types of games are not even meant to be tournament viable. Nerds who can't play real fighting games like to live in this fantasy world.

[@ninjahedgehog5]

This game will have a bright future once the vocal side of the player base stops expecting the game to be competetive. Last i checked, Bandai proudly announced how unbalanced this game is. I've gotten into arguments online with ppl mad that their personal expectations of the game that it never promised was not met

[@ninjahedgehog5]

After thinking about it a bit more calmly, Bandai is definitely talking out both sides of their mouths. "This game is gonna be absolutely busyed unfair ..... here's a ranked mode and an official tournament"

[@TrueReverse74]

People wanted unbalanced characters not trash unbalanced mechanics like what we had before, that's why people are complaining.

[@SoulOfTheLostWarriorMooCat]

Modern day gamers are entitled and think they need to prove themselves.

[@DRpepper1575]

Having an unbalanced game that's not meant at the highest level of play is not the same as the game breaking down by just understanding how it works. Flying up and down is not high level a 5 year old could've done that.

[@ninjahedgehog5]

@@DRpepper1575 but would a 5 y/o understand why they're doing it? 🤔

[@lazygan8576]

Easily could set up rules indicating if you stall for a certain length of time you're disqualified. On top of capsules to even out health, while never reaching "true competitive" levels, it genuinely is possible to get a little closer to it.

[@thenegromancer4695]

Whoever complains could never hang in fighterz

[@akumasrevenge240]

Or any fighting game with motion inputs

[@nikoprower32]

I mean...honestly, yeah. Many people can't and you make it sound like that's a bad thing. The game wouldn't have sold if everyone wanted to play Fighterz.

[@thenegromancer4695]

@@akumasrevenge240 fr

[@trapmatrix5942]

@@nikoprower32I’m Angel rank on Fighterz…. Sparking low key still sucks😭

[@VanceHelw]

Arc Sys already figured out how to punish people running away for years with negative penalty. They can add a "pride" system where characters feels ashamed/bored for being passive/running away, or getting angry because opponent keep running away.

[@floridaman7206]

Everyone: 😡 Me who never took the game seriously and fighting the homies on the couch like it was meant to be: 😃

[@thegamingfool524]

I think there is a huge disconnect with the community on what we wanted for "balance"

[@Z3RO_GRAVITY]

That gameplay was actually crazy 😭

[@Sungjinwoo-25]

what are you talking about bro that was peak game playing bro😂

[@jnw85]

TnS banned 19 and gero and forced 3v3 Its not hard to make a functional tournament. A balance patch would be better but its Bamco so lets not apply logic

[@JohnSmith-yn9ju]

People really want this to be a competitive game. It flopped😭😭