Hello Spartan! Very nice comparison of two great tier 5 ships . Enjoyed the video and commentary of yours!
@SpartanElite43Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!
@andrewcompton2427Ай бұрын
I enjoy California over any other T5 BB. But i enjoyed listening to your comparisons of the 2.
@arcangel695Ай бұрын
I have both and my Arizona completely outperforms my Cali every time. Using Jersey as my commander and inspirations are for accuracy
@tuxedotservoАй бұрын
That first West Virginia getting removed from the earthly plane by the California ... that captain learned a lesson. In theory, anyway. Really appreciate these comparison videos.
@SpartanElite43Ай бұрын
😄 i doubt it
@lejenddairyАй бұрын
Just won California out of a winter crate as I was getting off. Can’t wait to try her out when I next log on.
@SpartanElite43Ай бұрын
Noice
@jcook899Ай бұрын
Just love this video sailed in the Arizona and just killed it today thanks for the excuse. Great boat
@GabePerkins-x8kАй бұрын
Now let me welcome you to the wild Wild West
@BellthorianАй бұрын
Is there any way you can explain what is a proper angle and what is over angled? I have played this game on the PC going back to closed beta but I am not one of the sweat lords who memorizes all these little details. Also I know there is a formula for overmatch, can you explain that. That is another one I am not sure of so my general rule of thumb is head on to a battleship I shoot for super structure regardless of what BB I am in and I am sure I am cheating myself out of some scoring opportunities.
@SpartanElite43Ай бұрын
I'll see if I can make a video on it soon
@lejenddairyАй бұрын
How overmatch works is you take the size of your gun and divide it by 14.3. The number you get is the armor thickness that your guns will penetrate regardless of angle. As for learning how to angle, a lot of it comes down to experience. The more you play, the better of an idea you will get for how to angle properly against certain ships.
@DaFreshPotatoАй бұрын
I need that ship... California is the last American BB I need to complete my collection. . Great video as usual
@SpartanElite43Ай бұрын
Noice! Hope you get it some day and hope your channel is doing well.
@konnerkramer329Ай бұрын
Just pulled it out of a winter crate Sunday... definitely not disappointed
@DaFreshPotatoАй бұрын
@konnerkramer329 congratulations my friend 👏
@mundanebeastАй бұрын
California and Arizona are both amazing T5 BBs
@jacobedmunds8609Ай бұрын
Double feature ftw nice work as always
@jacobedmunds8609Ай бұрын
Side note is iwami b any good in t8 or should I just sell it
@SpartanElite43Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed
@cutmasterBАй бұрын
@@jacobedmunds8609 Good rule of thumb is don't sell ships. They might release something for the bureau that needs it.
@RoxyGotMoxy.Ай бұрын
@@cutmasterB or buff it or something else, yeah.
@unsealednardo9965Ай бұрын
The other day I was playing the t6 Italian bb. I didn't want to try spelling it. An ark royal hit me with bombs. 4 FIRES in one drop. Luckily I had my damage control ready.
@SpartanElite43Ай бұрын
Ouch
@danieldoherty5695Ай бұрын
Happy Thanksgiving , My brother from another mother 😊
@SpartanElite43Ай бұрын
Same to you!
@patrickpigott7246Ай бұрын
I wish I could find a California. I haven't seen it in the store or any crate
@WRD__Raider15 күн бұрын
So question. Just received the Arizona in a spectral 2 crate. Is Takahashi Hoshino with Ruchang and di Revel a decent alternative. It's my highest level BB commander which I use for my BA Montana. Which by the way is brutally amazing. Also, how and where do you see the caliber difference between artillery? I don't see the caliber of guns in profile for either ships. Or any for that matter.
@SpartanElite4315 күн бұрын
The caliber is usually next to the gun size.. like 356/45 or whatever
@PokapullsАй бұрын
Arizona is one of my personal favorites.
@TheDthatcherАй бұрын
I wish I had the cali
@MrTaterWedgeАй бұрын
What a shame couldn’t get a citadel on the floating Citadel of sadness 😂
@swector_unit4257Ай бұрын
Even though I don't have California, i would rather have her do to have a difficult time getting Citadel with the thick armor.
@lurkingedgeАй бұрын
I love Arizona. Last time I played it, however, I got destroyed by the most accurate Mutsu I have ever seen. He hit me with multiple shells from every single volly he fired except for a singular volley that I managed to make him miss. I was hopelessly outclassed.
@SpartanElite43Ай бұрын
Some days it can be like that
@lurkingedgeАй бұрын
@SpartanElite43 I disagree. I have never seen this. This exchange took place mainly at max range. I was struggling to land even just three of twelve shells with my AL Colorado build, but he was landing more shells from fewer guns from a friggin' Mutsu! He was... almost impossibly accurate. I have no idea how he did it.
@JonnyBravo0311Ай бұрын
I've got both and find myself taking the thicc girl out more often, simply because of the prevalence of CVs at the tier. With her AA and torp protection, she's usually the better choice. The downside is of course that she's got a massive superstructure and those HE flinging cruisers tend to feast on her.
@lejenddairyАй бұрын
Hyuga’s my favorite T5. It doesn’t have overmatch like WV and Warspite, but the guns are still consistent and great and it’s really tanky. Fuso is really tanky as well if you play it correctly.
@odin-i-4592Ай бұрын
Hyuga is one of my favorites too, love the reload booster
@camerondawnpeterson5100Ай бұрын
I've been playing Nevada since they created that ship counter skin, btw I'm at 374 on that counter. But when I see an Arizona when I'm in the Nevada I slap that thing around all the time but when I see a California I steer clear because that thing slaps me all the time.
@Fresh_BaklavaАй бұрын
No Christmas song remix on this one? ……lame. 😊 That short though… it gave me a laugh. @2:40, BBL Drizzy? 😂😂
@kooljayjohnАй бұрын
Cali is my most played ship. She’s nasty!
@Hazy-xАй бұрын
Double feature yes!!!
@SwamppDogАй бұрын
Its funny how calibers differ from small arms to artillery. With small arms the calibers .45 and .50 refer to their bore diameter (11.5mm & 12.7mm) and with the naval guns the caliber refers to the barrel length as a mulitiple of the bore diameter. Cali 356mm ×50=17.8 meter long barrel AZ 356x45=16.02meters Iowa 406x50=20.3 meters & SD 406x45=18.27 meters Very odd that they use a unit of measurement as a mulitiple of another.
@mysonismysunDVАй бұрын
It was supposed to be 10-11 thousand damage, BUT you were only given 5562 damage. This is the way))) Great Spartan game !
@robertzatta296Ай бұрын
Should have made it a triple threat with the Texas included. Do fast BB'S Massachusetts, NC, and Iowa
@gmantitan1695Ай бұрын
I want to have USS Arizona 1916 model, with her original casemates, and cage masts
@merafirewing6591Ай бұрын
They're both tough bricks.
@iamsuzerain398718 күн бұрын
Both great ships for sure. Sitting in port looking at stats it's California all day long, but when I roll em out Arizona performs better on a consistent basis. Good vid Spartan👍
@SpartanElite4318 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the vid!
@medievalman3737Ай бұрын
I’m really enjoying the California good for credit earning stready 80 plus k damage per game I’ve been seeing!
@snotlicker3191Ай бұрын
I love both but because of the introduction of carriers I’d say California is a little better but Arizona is still great
@JamesHickman-ow9trАй бұрын
I don't have either Cali or Arizona, but I do have West Virginia, and she is one of my best performing ships. I have over 300 battles in her with a 72% win rate and an average damage of 90k
@scubasteve2169Ай бұрын
My div mate is an AZ native, I'm a CA native. We absolutely love playing these ships together. 😂 I brawl anything close, he snipes. I provide aa coverage, he...looks pretty getting dropped on 😂😂😂😂. Honestly, I like the ca better of the 2. Put Robert Jauard and sharnhorst on my azure lane Colorado and it's deadly. Citadel after citadel. 😂
@staxe366Ай бұрын
The 45 caliber guns are just enough to keep them from getting away. Lol
@SpartanElite43Ай бұрын
Lol I see what ya did there!
@Mahmoud-mk9rwАй бұрын
I like big ole hotel California 🤷♂️ its massive and she’s powerful she can take a hit and keep on tickin i love bringin her out from time to time
@prgamer7367Ай бұрын
Cali for me has been extremely inconsistent in terms of accuracy for a few months limiting my damage, idk why, sad but true.
@City-hellcat-monkey-theftАй бұрын
Do you guys know if there’s a way to get the California back if you sell it?
@SpartanElite43Ай бұрын
You can submit a ticket to support @ wowslegends.com
@nastynate1219Ай бұрын
M. Night Shamalan plot twist... Which should I use get ? It was the Sinop the whole time... That thing was taking your shots point blank. 😂
@SpartanElite43Ай бұрын
It's a tier 6 BB that was angled well and has no Superstructure to farm.. so yeah Me tanking his shots so we'll when I got him to shoovlbelbelt is what makes Arizona so good
@GabePerkins-x8kАй бұрын
As someone who has had 212 k damage in a base Tennessee I pick California it’s just a Tennessee that’s better in almost every way I wish I had it
@GabePerkins-x8k24 күн бұрын
Speaking of that I just pulled cali out of a crate the other day and I have already broken my planes shot down record with 54
@cutmasterBАй бұрын
My vote is for the Arizona! She hits hard and is so accurate at tier 5! My most played ship for sure! Cali is great too in her own way I just prefer to be a sniper
@kylemc2306Ай бұрын
@Spartan is got the hornet carrier in a crate today played one game hit 2 ships and come out the game with 7k 😂😂😂😂
@b0bbobracingАй бұрын
Yeah imo Cali is best BB in the game. It's Kansas at T5. Just an absolute monster. I think my personal damage record in it rn is 188k... and i feel like I get at least 100k every time I take it out. Honestly, if you're on the opposing team to a Cali and you get spotted by it, just run away.
@AnthonyFranklin-dm9ghАй бұрын
Good evening
@SpartanElite43Ай бұрын
Morning
@thomashughes9544Ай бұрын
My opinion the California is better cause of the 32 millilmeter belt armor
@jessiebreaux7996Ай бұрын
California - its nice to the homeless -Eric cartman
@tristanbentz224Ай бұрын
If only Pennsylvania was in the game it would be a better Arizona as it was her sister ship and survived ww2 and had many similar upgrades to cali
@AnthonyFranklin-dm9ghАй бұрын
Why only 360p
@jacobedmunds8609Ай бұрын
It's up to 2160p in settings
@jacobedmunds8609Ай бұрын
Go to quality in the settings
@AnthonyFranklin-dm9ghАй бұрын
@@jacobedmunds8609 not on my phone it's only going up to 360
@jacobedmunds8609Ай бұрын
@AnthonyFranklin-dm9gh not sure what to do then but the video 💯 goes up to 2160p at 60 fps sorry I can't be more help
@SpartanElite43Ай бұрын
May have gotten to the video while it was still processing
@evoreynolds4512Ай бұрын
Tier 5 West Virginia or Arizona? Me and my friend got one each(I got west Virginia). Just curious on everyone's opinions. Edit: California wasn't available at the time.
@JeffandDougАй бұрын
Howdy ❤
@SpartanElite43Ай бұрын
Hello
@laneromero7943Ай бұрын
I’m relatively new to the game and I got the Arizona wasn’t even trying and had a 203k game, later on finding out that’s not the easiest to do 😂
@SpartanElite43Ай бұрын
Haha 😄 yeah she's a beast but sounds like you're having fun
@wayneyates700Ай бұрын
For me the California looks the better of the 2 but the Arizona performed the best 👍👍
@chevyspeed_z71Ай бұрын
Love my arizona!
@dudehi3317Ай бұрын
Ark Royal is still busted lmao I was in nagato had 25k health didn't matter how I turned or what I did he killed me lol
@harakaz007Ай бұрын
nice
@clydeburger4091Ай бұрын
If aircraft carriers wasn’t a thing Arizona all the way. But with aircraft carriers… Cali all the way all day.
@coopergoebel9943Ай бұрын
No just no Cali is better in every single way. The only thing that is worse than Arizona is speed and it’s only 0.5 knots Cali has more range dpm aa alpha hp torp protection sigma better conclment turn circle so there is really no argument cvs or not
@SpartanElite43Ай бұрын
They have same turning circle but Arizona has better firing angles and on Legends i believe they have the same 1.8 sigma However Arizona has a slightly better overall max dispersion. The biggest difference for me is in the citadels generated by the slightly slower shells of the Arizona which is why I prefer her
@coopergoebel9943Ай бұрын
@@SpartanElite43I was looking at wows builds it said Cali had 1.9 but it could be wrong
@SpartanElite43Ай бұрын
@coopergoebel9943 1.9 on pc 1.8 on Legends according to Blip
@coopergoebel9943Ай бұрын
@@SpartanElite43 thx I guess on builds for legends they copied and pasted and forgot to change
@Sgt581Ай бұрын
How I get the California?
@SpartanElite43Ай бұрын
Don't think you can it was a bureau project back in the day
@Dr_GhostYTАй бұрын
Out of specific crates that drop tier 5 premiums
@g-o-u-rАй бұрын
Arizona is good. But Cali with AA Meme build is pure fun
@dajuanvariste4751Ай бұрын
@Chris-oh4qhАй бұрын
How do you even get the cali?
@SpartanElite43Ай бұрын
Think it's only available through certain crates
@ashab44444 күн бұрын
What a weird showcase. California in no Aircraft carrier match, while Arizona in Aircraft carrier match.
@Manualssforlife28 күн бұрын
Crazy to say this out of all my American bb ships I will take my Colorado over any including my iowa. Willis Lee as my commander. Secondary build with a reach out aa and seconds also. Seconds will hit at 6km and with The secondary boost they hit hard. Have running with scissors so within 5km 15% dmg boost. I think I have a fire reducer not quite sure. A few other things I can’t remember. Compared to my Iowa I can take so much more dmg. My last game I tanked a North Carolina and a Bismarck . Angle than swing out after they fire swing back.
@SpartanElite4328 күн бұрын
That's the beauty of this game everyone is different and enjoys different aspects of ships. Glad you're enjoying your colorado
@Manualssforlife28 күн бұрын
@ I sold my Iowa to play it lol. The Iowa was fast but if u show any broadside it gets paddled by everything. I’ve took down a few Iowas in my Colorado. The speed actually got me into more trouble than not
@Manualssforlife28 күн бұрын
@@SpartanElite43 always put myself in bad spots overcommitting
@azza009Ай бұрын
Never played either I would say arizona
@coopergoebel9943Ай бұрын
Then you have no idea what your talking about
@jessehitchcock9141Ай бұрын
Arizona?❌ California?❌ Hyuga✅
@grimreaperscreed5938Ай бұрын
Wargaming have nerf the carriers so bad because battleship players were having a cry about them...
@MrBubbi200011 күн бұрын
Arizona is my favorite ship
@anthonymichael7336Ай бұрын
California hands down is better lol
@coopergoebel9943Ай бұрын
Agree I have no idea why you can even compare Cali is better in every stat except speed by .5 knots
@nepu6538Ай бұрын
🇺🇲🇩🇪👌
@araarashinigamiАй бұрын
Bro, as a regular CV player, I can tell you that if you know what you're doing in a CV, you can dumpster any and every California you encounter. AA is worthless at any tier below 7. I go out of my way to delete Californias I meet just to prove a point. Dump your torps or skip bombs from range and all the AA in the world won't stop you. California is literally the slowest ship at the tier and this weakness is easily exploited. It's a free kill for any torp DD player, and CVs just have to work a tiny bit harder than DDs to embarrass Californias in the same exact way.
@GabePerkins-x8k24 күн бұрын
Depends on the carrier and the person playing the cali
@devenlitalien8822Ай бұрын
I will say that i prefer my california from meduim-close range and prefer the Arizona in long range 🤌