Here's How Sony Made The PS2 Slim So Small

The PS2 saw a big revision about 4 years after its release shrinking the system down to the size of a couple game cases and surprising everyone. Today I wanted to look inside the PS2 Slim and compare it to the original system to see just how different they really are.
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[@Jrome4life]

The ps2 slim was the most portable home system of its time. Throw it in you backpack and take it with you

[@usernamemonopoly]

I mean the GameCube literally had a carry handle lol

[@dacosmicegg]

Agreed. When travelling with school, me and my friends always took a slim PS2, a couple of controllers and games and we were spending the nights in hotels and host houses playing on this thing. I still have mine in my room here.

[@starrieyedGirl]

So true

[@FoolsGould]

I'd say it's more portable than the switch, that dock is SO annoying to carry around

[@2seep]

@PAUL MH still got mine, and I still use it to this day

[@TheGimGamer]

I remember my friend getting in trouble and his Dad walked into the room completely quite unplugged the ps2 slim and just put it in his pocket and left the room

[@dajam9035]

"Put it in his pocket" did he have on cargo pants 😂

[@TheGimGamer]

@@dajam9035 naw lol he was just big! Like 6.4

[@Pariahmary]

@@TheGimGamer he may have been 6.4 but he probably felt like an absolute giant that day.

[@dajam9035]

@@TheGimGamer Hahah damn

[@therunawaykid6523]

He must have had some big pockets wow

[@Thefirespirit1]

I remember being absolutely amazed that the ps2 could go from such a huge monster to that little thing. It went camping with me, it went to friends houses, it went everywhere, and it did so because it was so small and easy.

[@zybch]

It was easy, they just removed EVERYTHING that made it a good system.

[@Thefirespirit1]

@@zybchcope

[@pjleon8391]

@@zybch Like turning a Pioneer Receiver into a boombox 🤦😂

[@chrisspearline767]

Huge Monster really?

[@Thefirespirit1]

@@chrisspearline767 I don't care, this comment is two years old, if you don't think it was that big, then cool.

[@stellarthefeller]

The power supply being outside is a much great benefit then it being inside. While it may seem cool, the original model was prone to failure and then you'd have to open up the whole thing and replace the board rather then just buying a new cord to fix the power supply.

[@sp0re8900]

For the phaty 75% of the time it was a small removable fuse on the power supply not the actual power supply I had it happen to me. Now I have a extra power supply just sitting around no complaints tho.

[@jk-474]

Honestly, fats are more durable in my experience, and that PSU isn’t difficult to replace if you know what you’re doing. Drive assembly and motherboards on fat models are FAR better 💯

[@SanchezS1998]

@@sp0re8900 I wonder if that fuse is what crapped out on mine. I had it plugged in without using it for several months, hit power and POP.

[@crf80fdarkdays]

Never personally seen a phat PSU fail, I have a couple launch edition consoles aswell

[@GenesHand]

Fat models are more reliable all around even with the PSU inside the console.

[@MiniRunnera7]

I've had the PS2 Slim since my birthday in 2006, to this day this works great!

[@taytayrazors9033]

What kind of Games you Have for your PS2 slim?

[@happyd6145]

@@taytayrazors9033 WWE SMACKDOWN HERE COMES THE PAIN

[@Vendiktuss]

I still have my fat PS2 from 2001... and yes, it does indeed still work to this day

[@happyd6145]

@@Vendiktuss no lens problem? Any repairs? Do you play wwe HCTP?

[@originator4649]

You were born in 2006? 😳

[@execation]

I have both versions (many, in fact!) but the one in my entertainment centre is the silver phat with a 2TB SSD harddrive running Free McBoot. It's perfect.

[@abderrahmandjaib3942]

The ssd is an overkill tho

[@dapperfan44]

@@abderrahmandjaib3942 not really. It runs cooler because there's no moving parts. The PS2 is twenty years old man, we don't want to stress them any more than they've already been. I'm happy with my 500 GB SSD in it, with the small file sizes of PS2 and PS1 games there's more than enough games on it to last a lifetime.

[@mandibiedermann2246]

Even is PS2 slims you can boot faster games with a mini router with usb port using the RJ45 cable and is much easy than PC smb share method

[@SHADOSTRYKR]

My first PS2 was a Silver Slim, but I want a “Fat” one now, I like the industrial design of it more. My friend snagged a fat one for $25 recently and it seriously looks like it came out of the box brand new. Quite a find.

[@iiOmarSP]

My suggestion would be: Get an SCPH-3900X model if you want to use discs, or an SCPH-5000X if you want to use the HDD due to the mechacon

[@TexasHollowEarth]

Version 4R revision and earlier had the Firewire port that some games (Armored Core 2 + AC Another Age) used for lan-style multiplayer; A big deal to me. Later revs lost the Firewire port. V9 added built-in IR sensor & progressive scan for DVD functionality. It used a new model remote vs the older model that included an IR dongle.

[@peskypengy]

One of my cousin's friends gifted me his chonko ps2 like 10 years ago. I have it on my shelf but a lot of the games he had weren't ones I really play so I gotta find some that won't cost me an arm and a leg haha.

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

@@peskypengy Mod it and use ROMs on it instead. Modern Vintage Gamer made a video about it.

[@Pungba]

@@PSYCHOV3N0M I just got a fat boi and added an HDD. Really easy to do, and there really are a lot of benefits

[@bryannguyen2383]

I was a kid and grew up with the PS2 Slim and I loved how small and compact it was. I would pack the PS2 slim in a shoe box to take it over to friends' houses. It was AMAZING for travel.

[@9aracna.]

I still use my launch PS2, people say it's less reliable because it often stops reading discs, but that's a very easy fix, you just adjust a gear in there about two or three clicks and it will read everything just fine, I have to do that every six or so years, takes a couple minutes. I also have the hard drive and network adapter, plus I use the connector cable (I forget the name, fire something?) that connects in the front at the blue part

[@staringcorgi6475]

It takes less effort to fix the lasers of the phat ps2 systems than the slims

[@9aracna.]

@@staringcorgi6475 Yeah, but the fat ones fail much more often than the slims, at least in my experience. And it's the fat ones everyone threw away after they stopped reading discs

[@HybridAngelZero]

I love the PS2 from a design standpoint, but the fact that the adhesive on the ribbon cable will eventually dry out, cause the ribbon cable to pop up and scratch a ring onto your games is a big issue.

[@crf80fdarkdays]

Might be a big issue but it is easily fixable

[@HybridAngelZero]

@@crf80fdarkdays How would one go about fixing it?

[@canopus5498]

@@crf80fdarkdays its only a matter of time before the problems returns though

[@crf80fdarkdays]

@@canopus5498 not if you fix it properly.

[@crf80fdarkdays]

@@HybridAngelZero one option would be to glue it back down, the other option would be to make a bracket that keeps it in place and buy spare ribbon cables. Or just get the correct model

[@nitrax8629]

Personally I prefer the second to last version of the PS2 slim (the 7900x series) as it ran much quieter than other slims and didn't have the disc scratching issue all other slims had. The fact they crammed the EE, GS and RDRAM onto one SoC is frankly astounding.

[@exaltedb]

I think they were able to do so as they shrank the chip circuitry down so much that there were able to do so feasibly (the original ps2 was using the ancient 250nm process while that all-in-one chip used 65nm)

[@truxttondogyuun]

furry!

[@felixis81]

Interesting comment on the 7900x series regarding disc scratching issue, this problem is mainly caused by the laser ribbon cable that pops up as the adhesive no longer sticks over time, creating contact with the spinning disc. I would assume the laser ribbon cable for 7900x were assembled in the same way as say 7000x series? So why is it exactly that 7900x doesn't have the disc scratching issue then?

[@prich0382]

I wonder if you were to make a PS2 today with modern transistor size, how big wouold the chip need to be

[@exaltedb]

@@prich0382 probably no bigger than a fingernail

[@wozthescott2804]

Now we need to find out how they make starbursts so juicy.

[@MarmaladePlan3t]

Can’t wait for starburst tear down

[@MarmaladePlan3t]

Emphasis on tear, that wrapped is actually melded inside of the central starburst unit

[@LucieOne]

When human beings are extinct, that question will remain. We also won't have found out who let the dogs out.

[@TheRealDustinNunn]

@Woz the Scott Oh, that's easy. You just read the ingredients on the Starburst wrapper.

[@random_gamer_guy82]

Alchemy. Purely. I'm convinced.

[@I_SuperHiro_I]

PS2 is the prettiest console ever.

[@hollowinside1962]

the original wii is

[@ass.blaster2000]

The PS3 slim is imo. It’s so sleek

[@SonicBoone56]

Hell no lol. It's an ugly blsck box with asymmetrical shapes and fake grills. Far better looking consoles out there.

[@emil.soderholm]

I think the launch ps4 looks the best, or maybe the ps5 even

[@broomybroomybroomy]

@@ass.blaster2000 This is the correct answer. PS3 Slim and PS4 Slim are simple yet elegant. Reasonably sized.

[@vesselinkrastev]

I think the 9000 models were even more impressive because they managed to put that powerbrick which was almost as big as the original slim back into the console and the dimensions remained about the same.

[@alolanstarboy]

I was just recently talking to a friend about how impressive the ps2 slim was ESPECIALLY that final revision where they managed to cram even the power supply into the same size body as the first slim. Like it’s such a cool thing.

[@stevesstuff1450]

Yes, that was the 9000x series... it looks lovely with the smooth shiny top panel next to the disc lid! Very convenient too with it's built-in PSU... I have one and it's permanently hooked-up! 😉 People criticise it for 'emulating' PS1 games, but I've never had any issues with that... Harder to find now, 'cause not many were made/sold, but I prefer it to my original PS2 that I've had for the last 20-odd years! Sony did really well with this version of the Slim... 😉👍

[@wyldelf2685]

Yes but because of internal power addition it's much heavier than previous Slims

[@MajinBoowomp]

I was born in 2002, and my dad got his PlayStation 2 in early 2001, a bit after the holiday launch rush. We had that until 2008 when the disc drive died. A few days later, my dad bought a PlayStation 2 Slim from Kmart, and we still have that to this day.

[@korniphobia]

I used to hide my weed in the expansion port from my brother lol.

[@taytayrazors9033]

😆

[@execation]

Everyone used it for a little stash of something 🤣💯

[@AleksLazar]

Hope it didn’t dry out faster. For some reason my brain recalled the dorm room smell from back in college. Good play times

[@truestory9891]

I use to hide my money in there

[@corytanksley7909]

bruh, that's where I kept mine too!

[@0Zero0Chan]

I grew up with the slim. It's definitely nice that it doesnt take up too much space considering all the consoles I've collected through my life so far.

[@AncientWare]

The 90001 model is even more impressive including the power supply inside the console.

[@aiodensghost8645]

That's the WORST model of the PS2 die to it overheating a lot more often than not. Between my 70001 Slim and 90001 Slim the 70001 Slim is still operational, and that's with using both of them in open areas where ventilation is more than possible.

[@realFoxBox]

@@aiodensghost8645 THey also patched out the memory card exploit starting with these models so MCBoot wouldn't work anymore.

[@harb1911]

@@aiodensghost8645 7000x rev.b is the best slim. it retains PS1 HW backwards compatibility and it got the nasty MECHACON firmware bug fixed that fry lasers. also it can be modded to support IDE drives.

[@AncientWare]

@@aiodensghost8645 mine still does the job

[@AncientWare]

@@realFoxBox ulaunchelf and OPL work without needing FMCBoot...

[@The_RedVIII]

Yeah, I wish we got Slims that small again. Just imagine a PS5 that size.

[@Poever]

Or even a PS4. How hard can it be?

[@Unknown-sf6cs]

@Snake24 or even a ps3

[@waverazor]

People can’t even have ps5s in their rooms

[@teacherfromthejungles6671]

dude, these days video cards are bigger than PS2, what are you talking about?

[@AleksLazar]

That would be so hot. Literally. But cool of they could. Bet they’ll slim em down to PS3/PS4 slim size or so by third revision

[@roralize1358]

I was born in 2002 and grew up with the PS2. I was gifted my sister's launch PS2 in 2008. I played it until the laser died around 2012, and replaced it with a Slim that I got brand new for $15 at the time. Still have it and the majority of my games to this day. I play it every so often, swapping it in and out of my current PS3 and Wii setup.

[@I_SuperHiro_I]

It’s an awesome system with an incredible game library. Keep those games!

[@damascus6480]

I have over 40 games so far, I have a long list to finish up 😅.

[@I_SuperHiro_I]

@@damascus6480 it’s a PS1 game, but if you’ve never played it, you must try Legend of Legaia. It’s soooo good.

[@Matanumi]

I love how this kid was born later but STILL got to experience the golden era even if it was later

[@roralize1358]

@@Matanumi Thanks! I appreciate all the time I got. Also grew up with GameCube via Wii back compat.

[@RealTalk309]

This is crazy I was doing my Sunday cleaning and tackled my gaming section, I was just dusting of my ps2 slim and thinking to myself while cleaning it “man what an amazing system with an incredible library“ Love my ps2

[@martinrc80]

Saw one of these at a thrift store the other day. Was so tempting to pick up but already have a PS2.

[@Gakki_Aniki]

Happens all the time !

[@I_SuperHiro_I]

Yeah so did I. A silver one for $80. How much did you see it for?

[@UndeadCollector]

@@I_SuperHiro_I $80 is super expensive. You can get one of ebay for the same Price, but with alot of Games on top! And "Silver" is nothing special. It was sold alongside the black modell, it's not rare. More like "another option".

[@taytayrazors9033]

@@I_SuperHiro_I I Have Sliver One Too.

[@I_SuperHiro_I]

@@UndeadCollector I didn’t buy it. It wasn’t in the greatest shape and I thought $80 was a lot too.

[@jamesbuckwas6575]

Thank you for showcasing the internals of each system, and being brave enough to take apart both systems completely. Hopefully it wasn't too hard to put them back together as well.

[@MmntechCa]

Best PS2 was the Fat PS3. True RGB output via HDMI, HD upscaling, didn't need memory cards. Was a dark day when mine died. Man, if Sony had put out a PS3 Pro with the reliability of the Slim and a return to full PS2 back compat, I'd have been all over that.

[@Thelango99]

In Europe we got true RGB through SCART on the PS2.

[@Zan_Jayna]

Mine died too. Yellow light of death

[@crf80fdarkdays]

Have to disagree there, the PS3 had issues with a few games not working on the system. The best PS2 is a launch model compatibility wise.

[@GenesHand]

Component can look just as good as RGB with the right cables. Sucks that the Fat PS3 are probably one of the most unreliable consoles ever. I hope that you didn't throw it out, now people has discovered the problem with those models and you just need to replace a couple of capacitors.

[@Zan_Jayna]

@@GenesHand I still have my yellow phat, losing all my game saves was the worst.

[@Dad_Shoes]

I just bought this model three days ago as my first PS2. I've only had a PS1 as my only Sony system up until now, and I'm really loving it so far.

[@Dad_Shoes]

@PAUL MH I'm fine with needing to open the system and replacing the drive if I need to. I did that with my original PS1 from 1998 just a few months ago without any issue, so I doubt it'd be that much harder to do.

[@Unknown-sf6cs]

@PAUL MH ps2 are made for crt tvs so the quality will be worse on hdtv because it was specifically made for crt tvs

[@Hayden2447]

@PAUL MH “full screen” You mean stretched out to 16:9

[@TheAlphaWoomy]

The SLIM PS2's are a crap shoot, if you get one before the DVD ribbon cable cover it will scratch your disc because the adhesive comes undone.

[@IcanGOwithTHEflow]

True half my ps2 games have a circle round the middle of the discs also when the power button starts to go bad you'll get disc tray open while playing games

[@SergKhrypun]

PS2 fat was the best one tho.

[@TexasHollowEarth]

@Serhii Khrypun - 👍... especially with having the option of upgrading the network adapters with sata interface boards. 2TB hdds work great in fat PS2 models.

[@SergKhrypun]

@@TexasHollowEarth Word! personally tho - I had no internet connectivity throughout the whole time.

[@shiethegal]

News to me, I've never had that problem.

[@gameskyjumper1721]

Can't wait to see PS5 slim. Judging from the recent redesign of heatsink, seems like it can still be trim down in size.

[@yoso378]

I'd like to see it mostly because the current PS5 is seriously huge

[@urukadooedwards7637]

I'm gonna wait for the PS5 Slim too!

[@thekangaroo1880]

I always wait for the pro version. If a pro version of the ps5 isn't released yet by the time I want to buy one, I'll just try to buy the first ps5 model.

[@Miss-Foe]

Yeah, I want a PS5 but it's way too huge and frankly not a great looking console so I'll wait for the inevitable slim. Hopefully it's pretty easy to get by then too.

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

@@thekangaroo1880 But then by the time you buy an original PS5, the PS5 Pro will come out not long after and you'll wish you waited.

[@KatanaRikku]

This was the best looking PS2

[@eddi3401]

I’ve had the slim ps2 and I played San Andreas all the time

[@Electro096]

Which one?

[@dmo848]

No way. Og all the way. But this is nice. I will say

[@ddarko08]

I still have my original fat model, and it works great. Wish I’d picked up a slim a few years back when they were more reasonably priced. Great vid, as always! Keep up the gym work, too…looking great!

[@JDCALDECOTT]

I remember going round to mates and seeing this for the first time, I was blown away! It’s still so impressive today!

[@zeroman0460]

The one amazing thing was with the PS2 phat model was that the disc drive would read MUCH more faster compared to the silm. So certain games would take so long to load.

[@jorgealonso8742]

I got a PS2 Slim some months ago and it has become on of my favorite systems to collect for.

[@basurerodej8501]

The PS2 Slim is probably the greatest slim revision of all time, everything can't get smaller than that (Well, except for the disc scratches, handhelds, the Genesis 3 and portable Wii's, but you get the point)

[@שלומייוחאי]

Pa3 super slim is amazing

[@Jay-uw4bu]

I took mine apart a few times as a kid to clean and fix the laser. I had a sliver one I brought in like 2009. Two of the OG ones died on me but the slim still works to this day

[@UndeadCollector]

Im a Nintendo Guy (playing Sony Consoles/Games as well) but imo the PS2 Slim Revision is one of the best revisions. It's actually "Slim" and the small form factor gives you the option to put it on many places other consoles would never fit in. As someone having many consoles hooked up all the time, saving so much space is really nice. In compare: the PS3 or 4 Slim is still "big". Bigger then most other normal Consoles, But i also prefer the combination of PS2 slim and PS3 Slim and don't have to worry about a PS3 Fat Lady. I also never own the Original PS2, but since the Slim came out, who really want's to put a "big brick" on the console Shelf if it's not for collecting sake only.

[@dapperfan44]

I prefer fat lady PS3 because she has way more features, specially PS2 compatibility. PS2 slim added a feature when losing one-removed hard drive in each for baked in internet? Sure.

[@Bez2112]

Still have my fat PS2. Have it with an IDE hard drive. It is amazing how fast the games load on it.

[@Electro096]

Same, playing all your games off the hard drive with OPL is amazing

[@_Frank_the_Tank]

Same here. I use a 2.5 inch 2tb sata hard drive in mine, connected to the Sony network adapter via a small cheapo ide to sata adapter. The disk drive on my fatty PS2 died many many years ago but Free Mcboot and OPL has kept the rest of it going strong. I do have a slim PS2 that I bought way back when the disk drive died on my fatty PS2. Trying to play games on a slim with a hard drive via the USB ports is not a pleasant experience... It's a slow stuttering mess. Sony definitely took a big step backwards ditching the hard drive on the slims.

[@scribblebee9549]

I've wondered about this!! also your arms are huge bro congratulations

[@owenshark24]

I grew up with the Slim model and didn’t even know that there was a larger original model until much later. I was surprised at how much bigger it was!

[@carlanderson2110]

I had the PS2 Slim and loved it as a kid, I actually still have the system to this day and she still works. I never got the chanech to try out the origanal PS2 sadly.

[@emanuelmarriott2454]

The ps2 was a huge machine when I was younger

[@mikeoxmaul4685]

I had the PS2 slim for 5 years during childhood. That console will always hold a special place in my heart.

[@nsgames24]

It still amazes me how they did that, back in the day. Even if they took some stuff out, it's still neat to see.

[@holzwurm_hd7029]

I shared a slim with my dad and i remember wanting the fat model because my cousin had one. Now i like the slim more because it's one of my favorite old systems AND IT FITS INTO MY GOD DAMN POCKETS

[@Nathan-mu1pz]

I've always thought the GameCube was a more impressive piece of engineering. All that power in a small form factor while running power efficient and staying cool..... Then they went with small discs 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@CommodoreFan64]

I love the GameCube I really do, as it allowed me to get a current console at the time cheaper than a PS2, or Xbox, but I agree the Mini non standard DVD disc Nintendo went with is what hurt the system with it not getting as much 3rd party dev support, but I still had a blast with the system, and still do with all it's great first party Nintendo games, and the 3rd party support it did get like RE4, and the RE remakes on the system. Also the Gamecube controller is still one of my favorites too this day next to the Switch Pro controllers, and XB360/XB1 layouts with staggered sticks.

[@Nathan-mu1pz]

@@CommodoreFan64 I've just started dedicating time to the GameCube library in chronological order of release with real hardware and I've been enjoying it very much. I see why people fight to the death to defend it

[@dajam9035]

I can't believe that was the thing holding the game cube back....a freaking tiny disc smh

[@ZackSNetwork]

@@dajam9035 Not necessarily developers could have had two discs the same way they did with the Xbox 360 and very long PS2 JRPG games. Also developers ported 3rd party games from PS2 to GameCube. So games were built well for PS2 and Xbox got ports directly from the PC. The true power of the GameCube was never seen in 3rd party games only Exclusives. Which is also why it had the best looking games of the 6th generation that also aged the best.

[@CommodoreFan64]

@@dajam9035 I'm sorry to say there is so much ignorance in your comment, the mini non standard disc did hold back the GameCube when it was launched, as full size DVD support at the time drove console sales because not everyone had a DVD player, and high speed internet 24/7 in your pocket being able to stream anything you want was several years away, and well over a decade for many. When the PS2 launch Sony could not keep them in stock in Japan, because it was the cheapest DVD player in the country, and well over 50% of the people who bought a PS2 bought it solely for watching DVD movies. Also Nintendo charged the same amount to print the smaller disc with less storage space, as Sony, and Microsoft did for the full size DVD-ROM disc in their consoles, meaning many companies did not want to have to pay for the extra disc to be printed plus the cost of the special case to house the disc, again which cost them more not only in the printing phase, but in the time of programming a game across 2, or more disc, and it's why Nintendo never used that format again, and went with full size DVD style disc for the Wii, and full size Blu-Ray like disc for the Wii U. Also yes there was a an official Panasonic Q player that played full sized DVD as well as GameCube games only officially released in Japan that did not sell well because it was expensive(sold for about $500 USD at the time if I remember correctly),and are rare to this day even in Japan, and they need a special even more rare Gameboy player if you want to use one with it, along with a special DVD remote for it to operate fully, that tends to get lost, and are not included many times because of it when they do pop up for sale.

[@obidahasdia4095]

*I have ps2 since 2007 & bought one in 2009 cause i couldnt afford a ps3 at the time it still works after 16 years im gonna buy new one soon sealed cause it will stay with you for almost all of your life its worthy super reliable*

[@Uncreative1]

It is still the most impressive "slim" console with how drastic the change in volume is.

[@MoistCrumpet]

I sort of remember when I was around 12 one of my classmates threw their ps2 slim in their backpack and brought it to school with them, and we all played games on it on our last day.

[@littlejam5984]

I remember certain Slim Models have compatibility issues even with PS2 Games . Wich why I personally opted for a late Fat Model usually

[@IcanGOwithTHEflow]

Out of nowhere one day mine stopped being able to play dual layer discs

[@nitrax8629]

Yep, 7500x and later have issues with a few games.

[@snoopiiii]

If I am not mistaken: Some PS2 games made use of the PS1's processor to do some small calculations on the side. The slims after the scph 7000x all began to emulate this chip rather being something physical. Guess Sony didn't do their homework or simple thought it to be viable

[@ndnixlon9548]

​@@snoopiiii It's the latter since it's no coincidence when Sony discontinued the production of PSone units in 2006, they instead phased out producing PSone components and opted by using an PPC based IOP to emulate the PSX CPU (PS2 IOP) to cut costs. Since the PSX CPU is now emulated in the SCPH-75XXX and later Slim models, its PSX backwards-compatibility is much worse than the Fat and SCPH-70XXX model but Sony attempted to patch / fix those issues in the later Slim models. No clue if Sony ever attempted to fix the PS2 IOP-specific issues (e.g Beyond Good and Evil) for the later models.

[@snoopiiii]

@@ndnixlon9548 That makes sense but they still didn't do their homework! Hehe

[@warfare313]

I had the fat since the release. But it was a non mover. My best friend had the slim, that thing we'd take everywhere we'd go. Backpack with the PS2, 2 controllers and a few games and the cables. And we'd plug it in to any tv we'd fine (shopping mall, dentist appointment, family visits). All those Jak clips bring back good memories, wish they'd get the Ratchet & Clank treatment or a new game :P

[@SpaceTheCake21]

First of all, great video ! I prefer the Slim Model. I had the old Model years ago and I had never issues with it. I sold it. Il have the Slim since 2007 and it works just fine. A friend of mine had an issue with the disktray not coming out everytime you press the button on the fat model.

[@autolife2785]

My PS2 Slim from 2005 is a TANK. Still going strong in 2022. Never had any issues with it since

[@sgentry6]

I loved the phat model with the hd loader when I was in school, since I never had a mod chip in my system. Makes me miss Blockbuster’s game pass.

[@josephferrel3413]

I found these breakdowns entertaining and informative. Thanks for them.

[@Dansoo]

I owned the slim model back in the day and the first time I saw the fat model I was like "I want the fat one cause it looks better !" Years later it's the opposite haha, it's extremely impressive how they managed to slim it down so much !

[@AguFungus]

@@TheDinoKitteh That and HDD support, good for OPL.

[@Daigon95]

@@TheDinoKitteh Depends on which mini-revision of the Slim model.

[@DeadPhoenix86DP]

@@TheDinoKitteh I'm using my Slim for over 10 years. And it never damaged my disc's.

[@crf80fdarkdays]

@@DeadPhoenix86DP see comment above yours.

[@DeadPhoenix86DP]

@@crf80fdarkdays Explain?

[@noeldoesthings]

The PS2 Slim was the first console I got. My brother and I got it for our birthdays along with Burnout 2, Grand Turismo 3 and Kingdom Hearts...it was amazing

[@cemsengul16]

The Xbox had better graphics but Sony pulled of some serious wizardry when they made the PS2 Slim.

[@copingflower1909]

I agree, we'll never have a system like it again

[@thekangaroo1880]

I got a ps2 slim in October 2020, one of the later ones with the built in power supply. I had a ps1 (year 2000) in my house for most of my childhood and I never had memory cards, and then I got a huge urge to start a playstation collection after seeing the ps5 announcement. So that's when I went to buy a ps2, with memory cards of course. December rolled around and I got my hands on a ps3 slim. Played it for months. At the time of this comment, it's September 2021, I got a ps4 pro last month and I'm getting used to it, creating a bond like I did with my other playstations. For anyone who's curious, I'm 15 (Born in 2006) and the time I decided to start a collection, I was 14 and 4 months old.

[@CaptainChrisMoore]

I remember how the wide ribbon cable for the disk lens would pop up and leave a groove on disks

[@drunkpacman]

This thing was awesome for long road trips as a kid! The one downside was the inverters at the time weren't all that reliable, so if you didn't save constantly you were at risk of loosing your progress

[@drunkpacman]

Also, I think one of the reasons they made the "Clam shell" a thing is because the issue of disks falling out of the tray if tipped or moved while running, rendering the CD unreadable. The OG ring of death if you will haha.

[@TurboExpress007]

Ps2 is my favorite even though I grew up with the GameCube first lol

[@KevinMartinez-xo3jy]

I recently bought two separate PS2 slims. One was a silver US release, and the second one was the Japan only Cinnabar Red console. I was able to swap motherboards and now have a fully functional Cinnabar Red PS2 slim. :)

[@goldensilveraxel]

I grew up with the OG model and never had any failures. (Aside from an overheating issue due to the fan clogged with dust but that was easily fixed.) As a kid I always wondered what that expansion bday was for, I usually hid my Gameboy advance inside it after stealing back from my parents a few weeks after I was grounded 😁 The controllers on the other hand were the things that kept breaking on me

[@MrJturner74]

They need to release a classic version of the slim with HDMI, wireless, and a hard drive instead of a disc drive.

[@SLightningHedgehog]

at best try to get as much of the original chips on the board as possible so the compatibility is as high as can be, if not 100%

[@MmntechCa]

After how badly they handled the PS1 Classic, no. But I'm sure you'll see FPGA consoles before too long. Would be nice if Sony at least made old PS1 and PS2 games work/available for purchase on the PS4/PS5 via emulation. That's one of my favourite features Xbox has. But Jim Ryan sees no value in it.

[@SilentHillFetishist]

Please learn how to search for converters. If you figured out that the mini video adcs (opposite of vdacs) suck, go for some in a metal housing, those are most likely good. I prefer wiring PS2 video to my AVR by an really expensive YPbPr cable and audio through fiber to prefarrably use DPL II or Neo6.

[@cizd]

With classic consoles you probably can't make it work unless you use off the shelf hardware because you're not moving 10s of millions of units.

[@MrJturner74]

@@SLightningHedgehog In an ideal world we could get a rockstar version that had all the PS2 rockstar games on it.

[@DARKSHREK000]

Fkn love Daddy Spawn's videos.

[@rallias1]

I feel like you're giving it insufficient credit for the whole thermal aspect to the design. Sure, it's similar components, but they still had to make it reliably able to maintain temperature range.

[@heishjans6965]

I missed the complete PS2 generation.. went from NES to SNES to Playstation and then picked it up again 2 years ago with the PS4 and now PS5.. I'm having a blast with all those games!

[@mikeuk66]

Can't wait for you to tear down the Switch OLED.

[@QuitYourCryin]

You just did tear it down. Its a Switch, with OLED haha. That's it.

[@djj1]

Nintendon't is at least 10 years behind with tech lmao

[@mikeuk66]

@@djj1 Just like your brain is 10 years behind everyone else, the Switch is perfect for you 💪💪

[@djj1]

@@mikeuk66 Perfect for you, Nintendon't has been trash since SNES lol

[@QuitYourCryin]

@@mikeuk66 Switch lacks in titles, at least for Americans. And Nintendos owned exclusives usually never come down in price below $45-$60 new. And it's not like Switch is a power house console. It's 1080p at best and 30FPS. Usually to play cartoon kiddy games.

[@cantolope3322]

I’ve been waiting for this video from you for so long

[@cizd]

I'm just sitting here wondering how hard or expensive it would have been to include PS2 hardware on the PS5 to enable backwards compatibility. If they had done that I could have dusted off my copy of SSX 3 and relived my childhood. Would have been a instant buy for me. Kind of jealous of Xbox bros who can just do that.

[@shifty2755]

Don't be jealous. They won't have any exclusives to play.

[@sundhaug92]

Xbox uses software emulation, Sony could do the same (at least for PS1 and PS2) if they cared for it

[@cizd]

@@sundhaug92 PS2 hardware was very specialized compared to Xbox 360. So PS2 emulators are generally more inaccurate.

[@socialistprofessor3206]

Still got mine between my ps4 and Dreamcast. I loved it and always will.

[@acecab5397]

Would have been funny to see a throwback image of Spawn bear mode (fat) for comparison with jacked Spawn (slim) at the beginning along with the consoles lol

[@9crv]

Bear mode lol

[@timmadone8930]

I got the PS2 slim at launch & it still works today. I've never taken it apart so I imagine there is a lot of dust inside. But it still plays games, cd's, & DVD's without a problem. And it's had a lot of use. After 17 years though, I'm sure it's days are numbered.

[@rosstee]

Just unscrew the base and get rid of the dust (and change the clock battery at the same time) it's all really easy on the slim (check a video guide). Then it will last a lot longer. I still have mine I bought brand new as well and it's working fine, I haven't opened it yet but I've always kept it clean so I don't think it's bad inside.

[@michaelchapline6960]

There's plenty of ways to pack power into tiny sizes look at how much the Nintendo switch can do and although bigger in size the Xbox series s is a monster for how tiny it is

[@Olterior]

Not much. Its less powerful than a modern gaming phone. Honestly just look how shitty apex legends run on it

[@michaelchapline6960]

I wouldn't know I don't play trash like apex or Fortnite or PUBG I play games with adventure story and purpose not battle royal bs

[@KrispyBarbarian]

I think it's still very clever to get the idea of keeping "the heart" of the system nearly untouched but shrinking it so much. Like some say "if it works don't change it" and Sony didn't, the OG Xbox for example would had to be brought back to sketch board to change anything changed in it's construction, there was a lot of space wasted but the biggest obstruction on their way would be their HDD.

[@VincentADK]

I have both of those models. I like the fat one more. Feels more sturdy to me and i like the look and the sound of it more than the slim model.

[@giovanni0620]

The PS2 Slim was my first PlayStation, but I don’t remember if it had the power brick outside. I had the PS2 slim, GameCube and the original Xbox at the same time, I remember playing a lot of games back then with my compadre, good times. Thanks to SpawnWave for all your videos, always appreciated.

[@ZackeryGee]

I ended up with both actually. I bought my first ps2 around launch . A big deal for me as it was the first console I could buy as a result of my grocery store job at 16. I bought the stand that had video game case holders built in AND the EA wireless controller. (At the time it was the only Sony Certified wireless controller on the market!) Man I was stoked. Thousands of hours put on that machine. Never had any plms. Even had it network connected! (Big at the time really. Tiger Woods and Fight Night were awesome later in the ps2 life to play online) Had to eventually get a slim because that fat model got stolen in a home break-in. (Along with the backwards compatible ps3! Heartbreak) - The slim always felt cheap to me. Never had any plms with it... But I enjoyed the aesthetic of the fat girl.

[@masamune__x86]

That makes a lot of sense. Sony also made the discman around that time. That was their innovation, the PS2 is a discman taped to a motherboard

[@markvicferrer]

The way Sony shrunk the PlayStation to the PS One was good, but this was truly impressive. Really appreciate how they went away from the motorized tray - never liked them.

[@Clever_Potato]

I got the PS2 slim for Christmas as a kid. I had never seen one and didn't really believe it was really a PS2 till I turned it on

[@MidnightMechanic]

I think they learned a lot from the PS1, removing the power supply is a huge space saver. If you compare the boards between the PS1 and original, there's also not much difference, but they squeezed every square inch they could.

[@ricardog.s2505]

The slim PS2 was by far the most common model here in South America, to the point I never knew or seen the original fat model until I was older

[@SergKhrypun]

PS2 was janky af, but also super impressive during first part of lifetime.

[@NonsensicalSpudz]

yeah it was quite janky now that I think about it

[@SergKhrypun]

NonsensicalVids Word, every game had something happening with it lol. Second part of a console’s lifetime - it was even shame to pull it out. Cuz PCs got so powerful.

[@NonsensicalSpudz]

@@SergKhrypun however still one of the best times of games a long with 360

[@awesomeferret]

Calling it "janky" at any point in its lifespan would be extremely subjectively at best. Care to elaborate on what was no doubt an unlucky experience? I say this as someone who had their first PS2 scratch some of their first games, I'm not pretending they are perfect, but that's a very minor issue as far as issues go especially considering the next gen issues with the Xbox 360 and PS3. It's one thing to have laser pickups fail that you can replace yourself in less than an hour, it's another to have "general hardware failures" that even the manufacturer takes a year or more to figure out. Again, I'm very curious to hear what you mean by "janky" since the PS2 is nearly objectively less "janky" than the consoles that came after it.

[@SergKhrypun]

awesomeferret Hi, PS2 was like too heavy. Surface had scratched super quick at made it look like a random black box lol. Being janky I mostly talk in a graphics/performance way. Resolution was always low or frame dips etc. GTA San Andreas was downgraded a lot from the PC version. Controller got some joystick drift and so on. Enjoyed the hell out of the console, but all type of odd jank was also included. 🙌🏻🙏🏻

[@yeloham75]

Went thru a couple of the fat models then picked up the slim and loved it! I bought the joytech screen for it and took it everywhere!

[@Smarach0]

I had the big PS2 and it ran fine for hours and hours, my friend had PS2 slim and it overheated and shut down after 1-2h of playing, he had to put plastic sheets in freezer and put in on PS2 so it could run an hour or two longer. I'm happy with the big version

[@crf80fdarkdays]

Haha that's such a bad idea putting frozen stuff near a warm PCB

[@gojolumo]

I have both and never had a problem. Maybe the ventilation wasn't working probably

[@SillyHorse99]

I had the last slim and never have problems with overheating, and playing gran turismo 4 for hours. Maybe his fan stoped working. Now i have a FAT because its beautiful lol

[@AlexRuy]

Loved so much my ps2 slim because I used to go to friend's places and it was extremely easy to transport.

[@Bozzyshy]

Less games work on the slim and in my experience they break way easier. Love the phat model

[@jtnachos16]

My initial reaction to the title: How did they do it? They made the power supply external. Which allowed for a lot of space savings, while also having some positive effects on thermal issues by moving one of the big heat sources into a more open-air environment. They also removed the 'expansion bay' that did effectively nothing but waste space for 90-95% of users. They also reconfigured the thermal management as a whole to rely less on sink capacity and more on airflow transfer (which might be what they did with that new ps5 revision people are upset about. Hotter exhaust doesn't necessarily mean the chips are actually getting hotter). Watches video: Yep.

[@BraxtonKovary]

PS2 Slim looking weak compared to John and his bulging muscles 💪😤

[@jeremyharshe2337]

Clever pull revealing the slim behind the fat model. Perfection 👍🏻

[@justaregularguy3827]

I literally grew up with the PS2 slim and for years I played it..... I will never forget those years and amazing games i played "sly Cooper, Jak and Daxter, ratchet and clank, metal arms glitch in the system, monster Hunter, ghost recon, kingdom hearts" gta series"star wars battlefront series, dbz budokai tenkaichi 3, socom navy seals, crash bandicoot, call of duty, metal Gear Solid, splinter cell Atleast we have emulation.... I miss those games and the feeling of turning on my console

[@earvase]

I like and have had both. But the OG PS2 is what I have the most moments of.

[@Just_RJ]

I still have my old fat PS2 from back in the day, but that slim model was something else back then. My cousin used to have one, and he could just slip it into a bag and take it wherever he wanted. The controllers were more trouble to store than the actual system, which is a real testament to how small that thing was. I might pick one up for the sake of having one, then mod my fat PS2.

[@eddyalienstudio7227]

I remember actually getting the PS2 Original on my Birthday with Jak & Daxter as my first PS2 game, it was awesome! I eventually upgraded to the Slim model but got the Sliver one which was pretty cool, reminded me of the older PSOne

[@AdversaryOne]

I got the PS2 fat on launch day. Lost my job because I called out sick to pick it up. When the lense died a couple of years later, I got a slim and I still have it to this day.

[@nintendoandrew01]

I have both and I love them each for their own different reasons. The slim seems like it would be easier to conceal, but the fact that the space needed for the disk door to open is so large, it can only be concealed in certain space applications, while the fat can theoretically be concealed easier because it doesn't require such a massive footprint for that stupid door to open. For most things, I prefer the fat model, but sitting here at my desk, I have my slim plugged into my monitor on top of my PS4 and the fat is in my living room with the TV...it gets used a lot more than the slim.

[@awesomeferret]

You are big brain. Seriously though, I wish I had thought of that. Very good point. That's one of those "I knew that most of my life but it never actively occured to me until now" things.

[@danny_r27]

My original ps2 slim and my silver ps2 slim still work to this day. So I never had any of the issues with the disk drive scratching up games.

[@dacosmicegg]

I've had a fat PS2 for a few months, borrowed from an older cousin, but then he wanted it back. Then later my parents found a big electronics shop that was selling new and modded slim PS2 slim for 200 euros. The silver one, I still have it. It was a Christmas gift. So many memories on that little thing.

[@leonardoliveira]

Actually it is funny because the first run of slims came with EE+GS chips. Second run came out with separated EE and GS chip and was made to deplete the excess stock of separate EE/GS chips. The one on the video is actually a 75001 which is the third slim revision. It uses a Power PC CPU emulating the MIPS 3000 IO processor and was part of how they got rid completely of the HDD subsystem for good.

[@nitrax8629]

Yep for a while both arrangements were used - if you had a 700xx or 7500x system then you could get either. The separate chip 75003 I had growing up ran very toasty, eventually the laser ribbon started scratching my discs though.

[@leonardoliveira]

@@nitrax8629 They did similar stuff with the older "phats", very early models (Japanese PCMCIA units) used 2v core chips and ran pretty hot because of that. The CPU (EE) also had some cache coherency related problems (short loops cause problems with the branching, compiler has to stuff NOPs on loops to prevent crashing) and they decided to grind the old chips. They ended with a huge stock of early GS chips which were actually fine which they paired with the revised EE and IOP chips which operated at 1.8v and heated a lot less. Those were GH-005, GH-007, GH-012, GH-014 and GH-016 mainboards.

[@nitrax8629]

@@leonardoliveira Pretty interesting, wonder if those boards fail more often than the revised ones? Heard of issues with the graphics chip desoldering on early Japanese units specifically, could this be possible with the above too I wonder?

[@leonardoliveira]

@@nitrax8629 Early units had problems with heating too much. For example if you operate it for too long without the top cover it will overheat and cook over time. That will cause the board to warp from heat, cracking BGA balls or traces. That actually cause the graphical errors you heard of.

[@leonardoliveira]

@@nitrax8629 Regarding these boards made to offload the early GS chip, they don't really heat horribly because the main source of heat was the old EE chip not the GS. They don't fail too much compared to the boards with the newer GS chip.