REACTION VIDEO | "ERB of History: Alexander The Great vs Ivan The Terrible" - Ivan Went There!

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@SpazBoysComedy
@SpazBoysComedy 5 жыл бұрын
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@NickyTannock
@NickyTannock 5 жыл бұрын
Actually, Catherine outlasted everyone, Ivan's horse ploy didn't work because it wasn't true.
@patriousthefallenknight3185
@patriousthefallenknight3185 5 жыл бұрын
can you react to Goblin Slayer abridged by Grimmjack please?
@jackdc540
@jackdc540 5 жыл бұрын
You need to watch ygotas episode 81 and 82
@murrayjones694
@murrayjones694 5 жыл бұрын
Can you react to the new one guy Fawkes Vs Che Guevara?
@Yurie13
@Yurie13 5 жыл бұрын
lol.. calm down ma boi! that's too much.. :D
@НиктоизНиоткуда-м1я
@НиктоизНиоткуда-м1я 5 жыл бұрын
Man, you know a lot about Russian history. Mad respect.
@Fire_2000
@Fire_2000 5 жыл бұрын
Да я знаю
@GG_AKA_GAVIN
@GG_AKA_GAVIN 4 жыл бұрын
Who doesn't wanna learn about it
@derbyharrington16
@derbyharrington16 4 жыл бұрын
@@Fire_2000 Я тоже. Translation: Me, too.
@Fire_2000
@Fire_2000 4 жыл бұрын
@@derbyharrington16 отлично Translation: cool
@cliftonjames785
@cliftonjames785 5 жыл бұрын
So refreshing to see a youtuber who knows a bit about history and the references
@bolikde9389
@bolikde9389 5 жыл бұрын
Indeed.
@dylang8082
@dylang8082 5 жыл бұрын
Fredrick's line "not exactly straight" line is a reference to him being gay
@aFallOutGirl
@aFallOutGirl 4 жыл бұрын
you could say that the "flute busting prussian" is also a refference to that ;)
@We_Defeated_Mighty_Umayyads
@We_Defeated_Mighty_Umayyads 4 жыл бұрын
"genteel in the palace" "I would pay a guy..."
@misanthropie.
@misanthropie. 4 жыл бұрын
im going to fucking kill myself.
@emycharaa
@emycharaa 4 жыл бұрын
@@misanthropie.Why?
@misanthropie.
@misanthropie. 4 жыл бұрын
@@emycharaa i love constantine the great!
@mindlessscarecrow4886
@mindlessscarecrow4886 5 жыл бұрын
Alexander's bars killed it completely, talking about the aggressiveness of the bars he won, talking about flow Fredrick was my favourite, and the funniest was Ivan XD so I don't know who to pick lol
@haraldhey9210
@haraldhey9210 5 жыл бұрын
Pompey
@RandomCorvid
@RandomCorvid 5 жыл бұрын
@@haraldhey9210 he only needed to introduce himself to win XD
@brennanhearn6342
@brennanhearn6342 5 жыл бұрын
I personally gave the win to Catherine on this one, though I'm biased by my knowledge of her history. The woman came from, by royalty standards, practically nothing and became one of the greatest rulers Russia has ever had, with one of her lovers being about as loyal as a lover can be. I'm talking of course about Grigori Potemkin, who, after they stopped being lovers, remained so in love with her that he'd introduce her to men he hoped would hold her interest and affection. Talk about a love for the ages!
@condorgaming4000
@condorgaming4000 4 жыл бұрын
That guy is the first documented simp in history
@rockysandman5489
@rockysandman5489 3 жыл бұрын
@@condorgaming4000 A simp is defined as a person who chases someone that does not ever genuinely return affection. Catherine had already been Grigori's lover, so it makes no sense to call him a simp...
@LorisNoKami
@LorisNoKami 3 жыл бұрын
@@rockysandman5489 You're entirely right. The correct word is "cuck"
@WafleEnterprises
@WafleEnterprises 2 жыл бұрын
@@rockysandman5489 Correct, he was more accurately a cuckold. Obviously not 100% since he was no longer “with” her, but getting men for her out of love for her despite him not getting any is basically some seriously dedicated cuck work.
@TheQuilava96
@TheQuilava96 2 жыл бұрын
@@rockysandman5489 a cuck is to be more accurate lol
@Tequila_Mockingbird.
@Tequila_Mockingbird. 5 жыл бұрын
Catherine never did that, as far as I've researched, apparently, the rumour was spread by her son who hated her so she probably wasn't the mother of the year!!!! She actually was a very competent & impressive leader though from what I can ascertain though x
@SpiralSine6
@SpiralSine6 5 жыл бұрын
“Couldn’t spin in my chamber if this were Russian roulette” You missed one of the lowkey savagest lines in the rap
@vijaythasathyanarayanan2486
@vijaythasathyanarayanan2486 5 жыл бұрын
Took me a while to realize this one. Holy shit, that diss coupled with her rep, was epicc
@alucard347
@alucard347 5 жыл бұрын
I didnt get it...
@bigyearoldlasagne9020
@bigyearoldlasagne9020 5 жыл бұрын
Vijaytha Sathyanarayanan I don’t get it.
@AThousandSunsinphysics
@AThousandSunsinphysics 3 жыл бұрын
Even i can't get it
@dannybob42
@dannybob42 5 жыл бұрын
This is my favourite ERB, it has great flow and lyrics but all the characters are killed off how they (allegedly for Alex while Cat debunks hers) actually died Ivan is the MVP though, he was always built to lose but he carried this rap through character and body language, this for me is peak ERB
@rainofkhandaq6678
@rainofkhandaq6678 5 жыл бұрын
It would be top 5 for me, but Catherine kills it.
@generictimestamperstupendi9021
@generictimestamperstupendi9021 5 жыл бұрын
wait do you not like Catherine, or do you mean kills it like in a good way
@WafflesFair
@WafflesFair 5 жыл бұрын
Catherine died of a stroke not doing doing “it” with a horse.
@biggusgreenus
@biggusgreenus 5 жыл бұрын
So...did Ivan technically win most of these? I'm not sure who won this one, but whoever won, Pompey lost. XD
@lejon73
@lejon73 5 жыл бұрын
you kidding? pompey crushed all of them
@biggusgreenus
@biggusgreenus 5 жыл бұрын
@@lejon73 I dunno what I was saying. Clearly Pompey won the whole rap battle.
@lejon73
@lejon73 5 жыл бұрын
@@biggusgreenus exactly
@mapdell
@mapdell 5 жыл бұрын
HE WAS A CONSUL OF ROME!
@apossiblyhereticalalphaleg3595
@apossiblyhereticalalphaleg3595 5 жыл бұрын
@@biggusgreenus Yeah Pompey ran away with it the moment he appeared
@d_wiseman3409
@d_wiseman3409 5 жыл бұрын
Waiting for Thor vs Zeus Impatiently :D
@AceOfSerberit
@AceOfSerberit 5 жыл бұрын
seconded
@kupicutirumenka
@kupicutirumenka 5 жыл бұрын
yes, please!
@paulovictordejesusmoraes9641
@paulovictordejesusmoraes9641 5 жыл бұрын
A goddamn masterpiece.
@steeldragon5730
@steeldragon5730 5 жыл бұрын
ikr
@acebreaker2069
@acebreaker2069 5 жыл бұрын
Those damn legos go harder than humans
@revanreborn7297
@revanreborn7297 5 жыл бұрын
Zeus vs Thor, this is one of the best...
@LTrain4444
@LTrain4444 5 жыл бұрын
Seconded.
@yutahkotomi5156
@yutahkotomi5156 5 жыл бұрын
Aye!
@revanreborn7297
@revanreborn7297 5 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Lucci Yea, I commented before he did it.
@paulovictordejesusmoraes9641
@paulovictordejesusmoraes9641 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, I needed this.Been a while since I last heard the magnificency of Pompey's verse.
@blxoom
@blxoom 5 жыл бұрын
such vocal range
@Spitfirethedragon
@Spitfirethedragon 5 жыл бұрын
Fredrick died in his sleep in his chair. Pompey was assassinated before his speech.
@YeCrustModifier
@YeCrustModifier 5 жыл бұрын
For me, the winner is Frederick the Great. Dat was a bop! :3
@midlifecrisis2988
@midlifecrisis2988 5 жыл бұрын
If you watch it again, you’ll see Ivan prepping his attack during each opponent’s bars
@warmmilk9480
@warmmilk9480 5 жыл бұрын
I've been really wanting you to watch this one! Glad to see you do it. Keep it up! :D
@acvaticlifE
@acvaticlifE 5 жыл бұрын
They were all great. Ivan had the funniest lines (You'll get a huge sack like Novgorod was great) Alexander was the best rapper Fredrick had an awesome flow Catherine had the best voice, and some of the smartest lines (Couldn't spin in my chamber if this were russian roulette was fantastic)
@ErikaBracamonte
@ErikaBracamonte 5 жыл бұрын
What about Pompey?
@OrkarIsberEstar
@OrkarIsberEstar 5 жыл бұрын
Short history follow up - indeed Frederick the great was said to have died peacefully while sitting in a chair due to old age. That was the reference there
@kimraudenbush615
@kimraudenbush615 5 жыл бұрын
The horse line is a rumor of lies. Catherine the Great actually died from a stroke. She beat Ivan.
@AceOfSerberit
@AceOfSerberit 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. a wonderful battle from all fronts. But Ivan won in my book. I just like the whole 4d chess thing he did. Making his enemies think they won and then stab them in the back
@ianvaneerbeek2580
@ianvaneerbeek2580 5 жыл бұрын
I fucking love your reactions mate. You know the references and that's great to see, cuz almost no reactors know them
@KinW147
@KinW147 5 жыл бұрын
You’re my favorite ERB reactor!
@elementalcolors4977
@elementalcolors4977 5 жыл бұрын
Man people keep requesting the ones with extra insertions! ...I'm infinitely more into 1 on 1 (or at least 2 on 2), whether it's for this or anime lol. Thor vs Zeus please
@rock22987
@rock22987 5 жыл бұрын
Thor vs Zeus is my personal favorite. That one was so good
@embran8486
@embran8486 5 жыл бұрын
The thing is with 1 vs. 1 they are the typical one sided ones, often one centered being the better one (though opinions always can differ). Thor VS. Zeus clear example of Thor MEANT TO BE WINNER. Still 1 vs. 1 should offer more verses & is more challenging keeping the flow, but if done right... Best male 1 vs. 1 IMO remains Blackbeard vs. Al Capone. Second Michael Jordan VS. Muhammad Ali.
@elementalcolors4977
@elementalcolors4977 5 жыл бұрын
@@embran8486 Even with a bias, I still prefer 1-1's. And even with additions, the last liner still has a tendency to win.
@embran8486
@embran8486 5 жыл бұрын
@@elementalcolors4977 When it comes to additions untrue. Usually it's the middle man.
@SushiSharki
@SushiSharki 5 жыл бұрын
Damn, not only are you my favorite channel but you're also cultured in history af!
@Mattsothelioma
@Mattsothelioma 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe I missed them (checking now) but I’m glad you’re doing these again! It’s always fun to see you talk about them.
@ThomasVanhala
@ThomasVanhala 5 жыл бұрын
Frederick the great or old fritz is why the English use to call the germans fritz. Pompey the great was always in the shadow of Julius Ceasar and then he got his head chopped off so he never reach the same greatness as the other great people in the rapa and Catherine the great died in her office and not doing something inappropriate with her horse.
@Chandfam7
@Chandfam7 5 жыл бұрын
Micheal Jackson Vs Elvis is what you need to watch next or Gordon Ramsay vs Juia child
@Beriorn
@Beriorn 5 жыл бұрын
This ERB has an 80% level of greatness.
@tobimaster1055
@tobimaster1055 5 жыл бұрын
A fun fact is that each of the greats died the same way they did in history
@redjaegertv9893
@redjaegertv9893 5 жыл бұрын
It’s kinda funny how Catherine mentions Prussians aren’t worthy opponents which is ironic as she is Prussian herself who married into the russian imperial family.
@AspieMediaBobby
@AspieMediaBobby 5 жыл бұрын
@prinz Bismarck She considered herself Russian though. In those days,rulers tended to consider themselves citizens of the countries they ruled rather than those they were born in.
@redjaegertv9893
@redjaegertv9893 5 жыл бұрын
Anarcha Media I know that it’s just alittle ironic considering everything. Also technically her husband was also a german. And FDG who was also in this rap battle played a role in Sophie becoming catherine the great.
@haagenneldeberg6787
@haagenneldeberg6787 5 жыл бұрын
Love watching your reactions. And your laugh is absolutely contagious. I would suggest Clint Eastwood vs Bruce Lee as the next one.
@DalionHeartTTV
@DalionHeartTTV 5 жыл бұрын
Alexander the Great: "While you died in the middle of a game of chess!" Kat the Great: "Empress to Tsar 8, bitch! Checkmate!" Clearly, Kat won.
@Blockshot16
@Blockshot16 5 жыл бұрын
You should react to Edgar Allen Poe vs Stephen king
@bnnett
@bnnett 5 жыл бұрын
The genuine confusion in his face when Fredrick the Great came up.
@neneka
@neneka 5 жыл бұрын
the rumors were actually circulated to undermine her before her death lol.
@Haydn2020
@Haydn2020 5 жыл бұрын
Catherine's detractors spreaded rumours how her death was caused when she tried copulating with a horse. This explains why Ivan offers her a horse at the end of her first verse, but she quickly debunks that rumour when she raps back at him
@pizzaman9859
@pizzaman9859 5 жыл бұрын
Yess this is one of the great ones. And I support them alot lmao I watched these so many times.
@jappperon7012
@jappperon7012 5 жыл бұрын
The horse was in reference to the story that she rode a horse naked to protest something. or something like that
@xavierstanton8146
@xavierstanton8146 4 жыл бұрын
That was Lady Godiva and it is said that even she didn't really ride naked on a horse
@CountingStars333
@CountingStars333 5 жыл бұрын
I like your vids... You start well.
@blxreaper7772
@blxreaper7772 5 жыл бұрын
Wright Brothers vs Mario Brothers please
@azagoren235
@azagoren235 5 жыл бұрын
I know you always poke fun at it, but age brings wisdom Curtis, and even what you say you're not sure about is 3x better than what most reactors know at all. You're the best around! *cue song*
@SpazBoysComedy
@SpazBoysComedy 5 жыл бұрын
That's very kind of you to say, My Friend. Thank you. 🙂 Of course, now that song will be grinding its way through my brain all night! 😂
@thenuclearreactor9334
@thenuclearreactor9334 5 жыл бұрын
Yay another one already!
@brotherjauffre4923
@brotherjauffre4923 5 жыл бұрын
Have a great day everyone
@LukaBlight69
@LukaBlight69 5 жыл бұрын
This was one of their best ERB's. I also found it fitting that it debuted right as Total War Warhammer was released. (If you like RTS games, I recommend it.)
@ramz3119
@ramz3119 5 жыл бұрын
Bob Ross vs Pablo picasso? Classic I enjoy alot
@Alexey_Mikhaylov
@Alexey_Mikhaylov 4 жыл бұрын
You were the first reaction guy who figured out all characters)
@Abyssionknight
@Abyssionknight 5 жыл бұрын
For anyone curious, Catherine the Great wasn't actually a sex crazed maniac that died having sex with her horse. She had 12 known relationships in her entire reign, and she died at 67 from a stroke. Catherine, like all female leaders of the past, was discredited by her enemies because of her sex. Rather than accept a woman could be a competent leader and make good decisions, it was easier for them to just believe she got things done through sex, not skill. Here's a quote from Frederick the Great (who coincidentally was in this rap) about Catherine the Great: "A woman is always a woman and, in feminine government, the cunt has more influence than a firm policy guided by straight reason." I think that quote pretty much speaks for itself on how dismissive people were of female rulers.
@jametime3847
@jametime3847 5 жыл бұрын
My favorite part is Pompey’s simply because he died Right before he gave a speech, similar to how he dies before his verse
@thezedforever6758
@thezedforever6758 5 жыл бұрын
Boba Fett vs Deadpool
@spiderfingers86
@spiderfingers86 3 жыл бұрын
This was how all of the Greats died in real life with one exception: Catharine
@dinofacedindividual9462
@dinofacedindividual9462 5 жыл бұрын
It's actually unlikely that Catherine was as promiscuous as she's portrayed. She had lovers, yes, but nothing out of the norm for royalty. The whole slut thing was most likely just some slander from people who weren't a fan of her.
@angieferguson3072
@angieferguson3072 4 жыл бұрын
Catherine actually died of a stroke, the horse story was put out by her enemies because of her promiscuity
@CapnPhilly
@CapnPhilly 5 жыл бұрын
Frederick the Great died in his sleep (which is why Ivan was surprised) Pompey the Great was assassinated before he was scheduled to give a speech the same day (Catherine killed him before he could start rapping) Sorry if I'm late just wanted to throw that out if no one else mentioned it.
@emperortj2035
@emperortj2035 5 жыл бұрын
He said greek we can go home now.
@nhdmhk7552
@nhdmhk7552 5 жыл бұрын
I love this dude
@inuyasha0413
@inuyasha0413 5 жыл бұрын
Fredric the Great had a heart attack on his chair.
@bookwolf9638
@bookwolf9638 5 жыл бұрын
Frederick the Great died of a heart attack in his sleep at a late age in his favourite chair ;)
@viggo9454
@viggo9454 5 жыл бұрын
Dude if you havent reacted to "history af the entire world i guess" you need that in your life... trust me.
@KaNoMikoProductions
@KaNoMikoProductions 5 жыл бұрын
Fred and Alex were straight fire.
@bryahnachristy51197
@bryahnachristy51197 5 жыл бұрын
It doesn't say how he died it just says where he died
@eekajmoneybaby9309
@eekajmoneybaby9309 5 жыл бұрын
That horse comment was definitely a good poking
@sarahdrake3007
@sarahdrake3007 2 жыл бұрын
Great
@thorleif8872
@thorleif8872 5 жыл бұрын
I like the References: Alexander = killed by Poison Frederick the Great (or Friedrich der Große here in Germany) = dies as a old man in his armchair (he was also called "The old Fritz") Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus = beheaded after his defeat against Julius Ceasar
@lorrieboy007
@lorrieboy007 5 жыл бұрын
never confirmed he died of poison. might have been something else. his old wounds or to much drink in his week party.
@jazzper8762
@jazzper8762 5 жыл бұрын
Babe ruth vs. Lance Armstrong pls
@dohvahkene4473
@dohvahkene4473 5 жыл бұрын
There's a new A Slap On Titan out, episode 19.
@withersoul3480
@withersoul3480 5 жыл бұрын
Deaths Alexander the Great : alcohol poisoning and liver disease Fredrick the great : natural causes in his arm chair Pompey the great : assassination Ivan the terrible: stroke while playing chess Catherine the great of Russia: natural causes
@user-zc2hz3yj2k
@user-zc2hz3yj2k 5 жыл бұрын
I gotta give it to Pompeii..
@pando662
@pando662 5 жыл бұрын
Ok
@2centschange
@2centschange 5 жыл бұрын
This is one of the better ones since it has an actual story. Ivan was the terrible because while he wasn't undefeated, he outlasted everyone, and seemed unbeatable, which is the story here. He loses the rap battle but outlasts his opponents, as they die how they died historically (Alexander was poisoned, Fredrick died during a party (sat down to rest and died peacefully)). However, he failed because he used the false story (which you apparently thought was true too) that she died having sex with a horse, which wasn't the case. She had a stroke and died in her bead after. The horse story (as well as a story as she died on the toilet) was propaganda spread by her political opponents, so she wins in the end, bringing up again that he died during chess. Amusingly though, Catherine isn't Russian technically. She was Prussian. She married a Russian noble, who ended up tsar, but was incompetent so Catherine replaced him and for quite a while was one of the strongest leaders in the world.
@lucylu4911
@lucylu4911 4 жыл бұрын
So fredrick died of old age on his throne that's why he was dead before Ivan could do it
@scavenger6268
@scavenger6268 5 жыл бұрын
Technically Ivan was the first to modernize Russia, then a few rulers later they fell behind again so Catherine finished the next wave after her husband Peter the Great died.
@_syzygy_
@_syzygy_ 5 жыл бұрын
YES!! Please Thor vs Zeus next!!
@ilankutsman4965
@ilankutsman4965 5 жыл бұрын
Frederick the Great died on his armchair in his study at age 74.
@jaceclarke6139
@jaceclarke6139 3 жыл бұрын
They did my mans Pompey WRONG
@PrimarchRoboleonFrenchyman
@PrimarchRoboleonFrenchyman 2 ай бұрын
"Terrible" in french somewhat keep the old meaning. If someone is titled "Terrible", it's mean he's an abominable and evil human being
@josephthei3784
@josephthei3784 4 жыл бұрын
Freddy won In my book. He had a really good lines.
@owo1744
@owo1744 5 жыл бұрын
Wasn't Alexander a Macedonian?
@vanessashelajcovci3242
@vanessashelajcovci3242 5 жыл бұрын
Wilhelm Stenvall He was. Greeks just like to claim him.
@arthankitshedddinglights
@arthankitshedddinglights 4 жыл бұрын
Hellen had three big nations ie Macedon, Greece, Thrace and many smaller ones Illyria, Syracuse, etc Similar to like Say Hindu of India, Nepal and Bhutan
@AzguardMike
@AzguardMike 5 жыл бұрын
ah yes Catherine the great, the horse shagger. I like how ERB kept that part open. "That horse story is a pile of shit, THOUGH I DO KEEP THEN CHOMPING AT MY BIT!" I had to check and sure enough, any school history book from before 2000 do confirm that theres strong proof she did like a bit of the horses *ehem* But nowadays, shaaaame for suggesting such a thing
@Bavariandude123
@Bavariandude123 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine calling yourself holy and killing 2 people right after
@gogetamemes7274
@gogetamemes7274 5 жыл бұрын
Lol my grand father calls me Ivan the terrible
@catxborsuq1
@catxborsuq1 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, "Stern" or "Cruel" would be a better nickname, and it is a closer translation to how we call him in Poland for example. Also, dunno if ERB did this intentionally, but when Catherine talked about how Macedonians, Prussians and Romans aren't worthy opponents? Well, Alexander was Greek (calling him Macedonian would be the same as calling Leonidas Spartan instead of Greek), and Frederick was German, but she herself wasn't Russian as she called herself in the next verse, but actually German. And yeah, she was... promiscues. Amongs her lovers was the last Polish king (before he was chosen - stupid ass elective monarchy - to be king, her support actually caused him to be chosen), with whom she actually had a son. But that horse story is almost definetly a lie. I mean, I try to not judge, so if she was into that that's her business, but it sounds too much like stuff her enemies would tell about her (and considering that thanks to her and Frederick - and stupid ass polish nobles and catholic church - that my country disappeared for over 100 years, I don't really like her myself, just putting it out there).
@wheresmyson1243
@wheresmyson1243 5 жыл бұрын
catxborsuq1 sparta was a city state located in Greece. Pella was a city located in Macedonia. Alexander the Great was ethnically Macedonian. In fact, the place Pella is located is still known as Central Macedonia. Your comparison doesn’t really hold up given that the Spartans recognised themselves as a part of Hellas and were definitely located in Greece whereas Macedonia was its own separate kingdom and was not considered part of Hellas by the Greeks.
@catxborsuq1
@catxborsuq1 5 жыл бұрын
@@wheresmyson1243 "The Macedonians (Greek: Μακεδόνες, Makedónes) or Greek Macedonians are a regional and historical population group of ethnic Greeks, inhabiting or originating mainly from the Greek region of Macedonia, in Northern Greece, which incorporates most of the territories (and the two capitals) of the ancient Kingdom of Macedonia." "The Macedonians (Greek: Μακεδόνες, Makedónes) were an ancient tribe that lived on the alluvial plain around the rivers Haliacmon and lower Axios in the northeastern part of mainland Greece. Essentially an ancient Greek people, they gradually expanded from their homeland along the Haliacmon valley on the northern edge of the Greek world, absorbing or driving out neighbouring non-Greek tribes, primarily Thracian and Illyrian. They spoke Ancient Macedonian, a language closely related to Ancient Greek or a Doric Greek dialect, although the prestige language of the region was at first Attic and then Koine Greek. Their religious beliefs mirrored those of other Greeks, following the main deities of the Greek pantheon, although the Macedonians continued Archaic burial practices that had ceased in other parts of Greece after the 6th century BC." Same region, nearly identical language, same believes... everywhere Macedonia is referred to as "ancient Greek kingdom". And even if we would somehow disregard all of that, the rulling dynasty was Greek, so Alexander himself WAS Greek.
@wheresmyson1243
@wheresmyson1243 5 жыл бұрын
catxborsuq1 Culturally yes, although that may have a lot more to do with the influence of Philip due to the previously semi-barbaric status of the Macedonians, but ethnically he was a Macedonian. True enough that the the Argives descended from Greeks, but even if we were to base it off heritage it’d make him more Epiran than it would Greek die to his mother, Cleopatra. The Macedonians also largely forfeit their own cultural identity. Largely inspired by Greeks yet but they definitely were not Greeks. According to the Greeks themselves effectively until the sacred war they were seen as semi-barbaric and were, during the Persian wars, offered an alliance but never actually formally invited to the Hellenic league. If what you say is relevant, why don’t we call Romans’ Greco-Etruscans due to the heavy influence from those groups? Evidence of this new identity comes from Alexander’s own campaigns. His companions, including Cleitus, never refer to themselves as “Greeks” but as “Macedonians” entirely separately. This leads to the question of what is Greek when the city states nearly all functioned entirely differently? And I’m supposed to believe that just because it’s called an Ancient Greek kingdom due to cultural similarities that Macedonians aren’t a separate culture whatsoever and are in fact part of the existing homogenous Greek culture at the time? The reason it’s referred to that way is as a blanket title - what exactly are the major similarities between Athens and Sparta that mean both of them are similar enough to be classed as the same kind of culture? I’m sure an Athenian or spartan believed that they were extremely different. Point is it’s irrelevant to say “well we call it an Ancient Greek kingdom” because not all Ancient Greek civilisations shared the same culture anyway - it’s simply an easy categorisation. Why can’t Alexander also be a Persian? He adopted Persian customs and brought them to court so how is he Greek and not Persian? Because that’s not where he was born. Ethnically, he was born in the semi-barbaric kingdom of Macedonia that shared many similarities with Greece but was clearly culturally distinct. Also, if you bothered to read into it more you’d understand that the way religion functioned in Macedonia was distinct from the way it functioned in Greece, the Macedonian language was distinct (Alexander once shouted an order in Macedonian purely to his royal guard), and that their art remained distinct from Classical Greek art. Culturally the ancient Macedonians were culturally similar to Greeks but still very separate. They had their own cultural identity recognised by the Greeks and themselves. Alexander was born in the kingdom of Macedonia to a mother from Epirus and a father from Macedon, this makes him ethnically Macedonian. It’s like calling Agricola French for being born in Gaul when he was quite clearly a Roman, or liking calling Darius the Great an Iranian.
@beck6085
@beck6085 5 жыл бұрын
Pompey won, obviously.
@butterflystar7064
@butterflystar7064 3 жыл бұрын
Fredrick died of a heart attack
@brandonnichols8651
@brandonnichols8651 5 жыл бұрын
Zeus vs Thor next
@hhthhtvbhbvh3137
@hhthhtvbhbvh3137 5 жыл бұрын
Frederick the great died a Natural death and the reason Katherine the great said "that horse stories was a pile of shit" is because the story about the horse was a famous story that wasn't true
@Batmans_Pet_Goldfish
@Batmans_Pet_Goldfish 5 жыл бұрын
Second fav after Rasputin vs Stalin. 3rd fav is Wonder Woman vs Stevie Wonder.
@Fin_Ale
@Fin_Ale 5 жыл бұрын
Seems like u like russian
@kawaiikawaiianimegirl4144
@kawaiikawaiianimegirl4144 5 жыл бұрын
Should have been Alexander the Great vs Gangus kon sorry if misspelled just think it would have been better
@TotallyNotLoki
@TotallyNotLoki 5 жыл бұрын
Genghis Kahn
@kawaiikawaiianimegirl4144
@kawaiikawaiianimegirl4144 5 жыл бұрын
@@TotallyNotLoki thank you
@Zerpderp0
@Zerpderp0 5 жыл бұрын
Alexander the Great is Macedonian, not Greek. It was slightly different culture than the Athenian Demos and Spartan Style we most familiarize ourselves with Greece. Though it was Alex who created what now call, Hellenic culture and spread it from North Africa to India. Such a huge cultural influence he had on the known world
@jlion2439
@jlion2439 5 жыл бұрын
Freddie Mercury vs Frank Sinatra
@Dante2056
@Dante2056 16 күн бұрын
I actually do personally think Ivan won this. This battle also has my favorite opening besides George R.R. Martin vs J.R.R. Tolkien with the, "Look alive." And I honestly actually feel like Ivan's entire opening was better than Alexander's. Not that anyone did bad, as you said, but just something about the way Peter did Ivan worked for me.
@MJonMBoviM
@MJonMBoviM 5 жыл бұрын
Alexander the great killed it this battle in terms of rapping
@mattmose497
@mattmose497 5 жыл бұрын
Curtis, how about Frank Sinatra vs Freddie Mercury next? Even if I guess you probably going to rule for Mercury in advance, since he's a great reminder of your wrestling days with his "anthems of victory" (you'll see). I like your reaction videos... And don't worry, I support ERB's channel as well! ✌
@americancuber4016
@americancuber4016 4 жыл бұрын
Fredrick The Great died in his sleep.
@lunavioleta001
@lunavioleta001 5 жыл бұрын
Ivan the Terrible won for me. He was so unique in all these rap battles and his character was so sickening and malicious. I was disappointed that he didn't end up killing his last opponent.
@LovingTheCovenant
@LovingTheCovenant 5 жыл бұрын
Video game house three!
@bornassassin2111
@bornassassin2111 5 жыл бұрын
Ivaaaan Let's gooo!
@6666Imperator
@6666Imperator 5 жыл бұрын
as a german I want Old Fritz to win of course, but for me its 1. Cathrine 2. Alexander 3. Frederick (he fall asleep in a chair and never woke up again like shown here I believe) 4. Ivan. Although I liked Ivans lines and style the others hit my taste just that inch more. Especially Cathrines rythmn and voice were a great combination but Frederick was really cool just a bit too short to rate him higher than the Panhellenist.
@apossiblyhereticalalphaleg3595
@apossiblyhereticalalphaleg3595 5 жыл бұрын
Freddy Boi died a natural death, very unfitting for the Prussian Eagle who barely managed to skate Prussia across attacks from Saxony, France, Austria, Russia and Sweden
@arthankitshedddinglights
@arthankitshedddinglights 4 жыл бұрын
Freddy boy Gave Russian their Ekatrina...
@requiem6465
@requiem6465 5 жыл бұрын
Pompey won no contest.
@dominiccampbell181
@dominiccampbell181 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Ivan vs Alexander was a Wrestlemania match alright; just like Cena vs Undertaker at Wrestlemania 34.
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