The K-Swap Nissan 240SX LOST 100HP!!!

[@speedacademy]

To add clarification, the worn timing chain isn’t what is causing our issue. Improper timing is but we discovered the chain has stretched and it makes sense to replace it and the guides when we are fixing the timing.

[@Fyxxterzc]

The only issues I've heard the chain designed Honda engines have are tensioner related. 160k on my old rsx and had to replace the chain guides and tensioner. Love Honda engines but no engine comes without some issue. Luckily the k series is easy to replace all that on.

[@rb26xs14]

Replace the intake cam sprocket while you’re at it. It’s rattling on a cold start.

[@jaquimanacleto1954]

Chain streched could skip a tooth.

[@jimmehvideos]

Good luck with it. Looking forward to those numbers!

[@bakamotorworks505]

Might be a silly question but is it possible to install those camshafts backwards? (I.e. intake on exhaust side and vica versa)?

[@jamest5149]

Things happen... glad you post fails and issues as well as the good stuff... too many edit this stuff out so it all looks simple and great in the car modifications world where in reality this stuff happens... just don’t get demoralized, you are not alone in these mistakes and issues.

[@kpowerindustries8210]

That manifold looks hot on there! Once the timing is sorted, that thing will rip!

[@akeelhassanvideo]

I had a literal heart attack when he cranked it and I heard that sound, I expected the worst but I'm happy it was just something you left in the engine bay. You got me.

[@1QuickSlovak]

Yeah you can hear it at 8:30 rattling it's brains out. Holy crap that tensioner is dead and she's skipped a tooth!

[@bennybaldwin2627]

I'm not sure I can adequately express how good it is to see a not perfect episode. Thank you. Loud Fast & REAL.

[@iancrosson9513]

Dave is my hero, because we are so a like. "burn it". Been there so many times.

[@slidin86]

Not race related but shoutout to DP for the weight loss. It's really starting to show on camera. What ever starving metric you're going by keep it up!

[@clayduval1255]

You guys need to make a shirt about making jam. Something like "Speed Academy, making jam since xxxx" would be pretty cool

[@ricepony33]

Spread Academy...

[@JDM_Jeffro]

That would be dope.

[@hegeliandetective1034]

Maybe an image of an accelerator pedal pointing at a DYNO graph and the line on the DYNO is stretched out letters "JAM" Making the J and A part of the HP curve and M being the torque curve.

[@future62]

Damn big lesson learned. If the chain comes off and the engine is old just replace it

[@slickman5969]

replace everything accessibly in that area,especially going that deep

[@hammertimee777]

When you guys removed and installed the new cams, you hung the timing chain to the hood in hope that the chain would not lose its position to the main sprocket. I am afraid that is where you may have lost your original timing position.

[@hegeliandetective1034]

I've been in that frustration like Dave has, many times before. Ironic thing is that I'm sure that Dave will wake up early, or won't be able to sleep, and be motivated to research exactly what it needs to solve the issue, and the project will be that much better, than running the engine with a loose timing chain and chain guides at the track, so a much happier ending in the near future is coming!

[@BritAcrossThePond]

i love that you guys share the highs and the lows of building cars!

[@jaquimanacleto1954]

Before putting a K series in a car it is always a good idea to install new timing chain and tensioner, also the engine will make more power with new timing chain because the chain streches.

[@jkattackteam]

Golden Eagle makes also rwd manifold for K:s. I have one installed on my miata.

[@NeilMagill]

Great videos as always gents, can't wait to see what it makes after it's sorted!

[@k23turbo80]

I think everybody has left a ratchet on the crank a time or two lol

[@WelshyAutomotive]

With extensions, broke right off too. 😵

[@upnorthviking823]

Nope

[@Zsword92]

Edward Norton is a car tuner these days? Man has skills!

[@DailyRacer]

Glad to be subbed to this channel! Great stuff! Inspired by you guys!

[@TheXela42]

just got off work, time to relax to speed academy.

[@TheGoodMedicine]

You need to get a screw driver in cylinder 1 to verify TDC because Honda marks are known to be not accurate.

[@hegeliandetective1034]

Good thinking, and it's free to check TDC!

[@vincentradziecki7470]

nice to see I'm not the only one that has problems with timing belt/chain alignments!

[@dorganator]

Its reasonably easy to loose crank timing using the bungee cord to bonnet method as soon as it slacks or the guide on tensioner side might not sit on chain right when put tension back on. Better off doing it properly and changing the chain as they all have that stretch at 150kmiles anyway or chuck a chain crank guide on while your at it

[@upbuild4397]

That’s a good looking engine bay, looks clean 👍👍

[@paulwisdom5383]

Was no one else concerned with the horrendous noise on the first initial startup before the dyno? When they sorted the startup map, sounded like bad news

[@speedacademy]

Thats just valve noise until oil reaches the head. Common when you dissemble everything.

[@arturo762]

Damn it! Upload time is so early I forget to watch after work. Good thing it shows up on my home screen.

[@DreamWrench]

Aww bummer. The 240 sounded so sad at the end of the video. Best of luck fixing this issue.

[@MendicantBias1]

New Rule: Replace worn out OEM parts on engine out rebuilds/mods! The 2JZ and now the K swap? This isn't how jam is made!

[@upnorthviking823]

Looks like they install engines and cross fingers lol

[@pFbSpecV]

Yup!! Sounds about right! When I did the hg job on my k24a2 I replaced all the guides and chain

[@TheGCJourney]

Ahh, bummer... But at least nothing blew up (as we know worse things can happen)! Still love staring at those new Wilwoods 😍

[@TimDarracott]

I'd forgotten about that Stack dash.. achingly cool!

[@ph1lthyvision]

I feel for you guys. Just a thought, could this be because of the 50 degree or whatever vvt gears? I dont think this was missed, but faced with doing the job again, you just want to cover your bases. Love the channel guys and you are just having some bad luck. Im so excited for your jdm hero cars!

[@RadDadisRad]

I truly appreciate the transparency with the successes and fails along with B roll and blooper reel stuff. It doesn’t hurt that both Pete and Dave have great personalities and as far as I know are great role models for the younger kids coming into the car scene. You do a great job. Thank you.

[@oldsklteg]

Nick is that K series tuning guru 👍

[@noobatnothing]

always a great video pt and dp. love following along. wishing the best

[@pwilk924]

Such an easy fix! You guys will be back in no time!

[@ricbaker4739]

Dave left to go get some matches and petrol🤣🤣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@meteormedia7021]

Hearing the clunking sound after you fiddled with the timing chain without proper tools and without taking the front cover off, I expected the worst

[@idokwatcher2062]

It's amazing what Honda aftermarket makes. BMW has some great non-M engines with much greater displacement and torque than Honda from 2.8 to 3.2L, but low horsepower. But aftermarket doesn't give a damn, if you're not driving an S engine from M division you're not getting larger throttle bodies, intake manifolds, oil coolers, individual throttle bodies or anything.

[@Sir.VicsMasher]

9:49 Why would anybody choose 236 "Using price is right rules" when the previous person choose 237? 😐

[@AdrianTechs]

K swap featuring Edward Norton :D

[@bakamotorworks505]

Lmao

[@SilverScarletSpider]

It’s so cool that this Nissan Silvia has had S2000, Acura RSX, and Acura RDX parts while using a Honda motor!

[@cacervantes68]

cam timing is sooooooooo important, my valve lash was off by 3-4 thou, and i lost 6 degrees of cam timing bc of it

[@alexisknows6513]

Thanks for this....real world experience .

[@arumrunner]

Keep at it guys, it'll be worth it in the end!

[@frankalarcon635]

wouldn't the phenolic spacers help with intake temps?

[@hegeliandetective1034]

Great suggestion. That's what I love about the car community. We can all learn what helps combustion chamber engines in general and take what we've learned to make the best performance modifications.

[@exportedafrican]

It helps to a degree but also increases the torque load by extending the intake mass away from the block. The non ridged nature of it allows harmonic frequencies that can cause things to come loose or break

[@taylorjackson8464]

They do help but they warp easily

[@MyLonewolf25]

Not really a thing on FI stuff

[@wldwst22]

That's hotrodding. Great looking car, and hopefully it'll be all sorted out soon.

[@texasflysuperstar]

Luckily you guys didn’t put any observation windows in the block

[@tougeclassics9443]

The timing is most likely the smoking gun here but what’s the overlap on the cams? Bigger cams with some overlap will actually drop your static compression ratio compared to baby cams. They’re the giants on top of the bean stalk and not the plebeians below it sorta speak lol. Hope the issues iron out! Looking forward to the JAM 👌🏼👌🏼

[@FlawlessCulture]

You got to love a K swap 😍

[@SaqibKhaliq]

Hope the valves are okay.. should be if only a few teeth. I had a engine timing belt slip 7 teeth, and bend all 16 valves.

[@Rideout5]

I often feel Pete and I have similar car ocd’s which is why I’m baffled at why that beautiful muff is still hanging so low! It’s not boosted or going to get hot enough to melt the bumper so let’s move that bad boy up an inch! Maybe it just looks worse on camera. Such a sick setup this car has!

[@speedacademy]

Trust me Ive tried, it will not go any higher without completely cutting and moving the hangers!

[@exportedafrican]

What’s up with the tiny injectors? Gave up on the turbo plan?

[@Wheemer]

He's probably getting older now and worried about fuel economy. lol

[@sask949]

Always great content! Shout out from Saskatchewan lol

[@MyLonewolf25]

Why the injector change? Why go smaller??

[@SVVVYEDITS]

I bought a ktuned throttle body and it sticks all time time

[@upnorthviking823]

Undo the butterfly bolt holding where the cable hooks to tb..hold it because the spring can come apart. Turn the part 360degres..rebolt it You will tight the spring this way..wont stick and you will have firmer pedal feel

[@shaquilleleathers6530]

That adjustment will suck when it does stick I’m pretty sure that throttle body just like all the rest will stick eventually

[@israelcardona5170]

You know when would have been a good time to replace the chain the guides on a used motor? 2 years ago when you had this hole motor apart and decided to reuse the chains and guides and was playing with timing in the video using a thumbtack to hold the tensioner.... but hey reused used parts hold up great.... Cut corners and they have come back to get you guys multiple times now on this channel. But hey at least there more content showing us how not to do things.

[@lander917]

Wow guys dam that sks balls! That’s another reason why it was making not as much power before.

[@steveb.7302]

Thought for a little your where getting tuned by Edward Norton. Lol 😂 😂 😂

[@mondomoleno.3404]

In the pharmacy, we call burning the place down "Plan G".

[@solidsnakec20]

does the extra long aftermarket chain tensionor not work for this one?

[@TheRpMedia]

I need to know what body kit is on this car

[@douglasscovill6463]

Eager to see some power on this next video

[@scott1hn]

Where do you guys pick up your Wilwoods from? That grey is perfect, I want a set for my Forester!

[@speedacademy]

Core4motorsport

[@dvirben-yaeesh9211]

Why not ITB’s?

[@atomicoverridelbc6796]

@speedacademy the Chains! The Chains!!!

[@Smokkedandslammed]

I'm with ya guys on the fixing-things-then-finding-out-its-still-broken kick, I just replaced my mt82* on my ecoboost mustang and I dont trust it :/ Its just been replacing parts cause I need to, not cause I want to, takes the fun out of it. Same thing happened with my e92, put so much time into her fixing her and then she broke again. Cars are like an one sided abusive relationship and its really discouraging sometimes to get back out in the shop. We always come crawling back with more parts though. Carcaine. 😩 *Yes, I know mt82 is crap, I got an upgraded mt82. And yes I know about the lawsuit, already talked to the lawyers and since I didnt take it to the dealership for my repairs I probably wont be included for anything.

[@Rylan_808]

The k swap s14 looking like a dream car 🔥🔥

[@Charper]

He wasn't holding the throttle wide open when doing the comp test....you'll never get a good comp number with the butterfly closed.

[@hawkmickler4907]

Anyone know what racing dash that is?

[@infotechplus1950]

The disappointment on Dave's face was clearly in evidence!

[@andrewmarasek620]

fighting little gripes like these makes me want to just go with a model 3 performance and be done with it.

[@DIGPLatinodriftking1]

Just curious if you guys took compression measurements for the other cylinders? Also, if you did were they the same pressure? How bad would timing have to be off to bend a valve? Hoping you guys find the gremlin behind this one! Cheers fellas!

[@speedacademy]

Yes we did. All the same. Timing would have to be off quite a bit to bend valves. It would read almost zero compression if the valves were bent.

[@TML34]

No worries boys. KZbin misery = clicks! I’m sure you’ll get it sorted.

[@ianholmen888]

And that’s when you rethink playing with cars.

[@joewilder]

Sounded good.

[@laser-sj]

Just add a turbo now to make all the mods work properly 😁

[@aose19]

We need to see STI Killer video guys

[@thesmitty83]

The Evo and this car have left the chat

[@lucdanh1509]

Looks like it’s a tooth off on the intake cam.

[@tightcar1065]

Bring back BADA**2000 plz

[@ItzSath]

Looks like it needs some porting

[@memespongee]

oh well...more new parts and for a better motor

[@RyDogg08]

What ECU are you guys running again?

[@snockdawg82]

Interesting that both K engines have garbage timing chain guides in a 240 lol.

[@joshuacross3776]

How sure are we that Nick isn’t related to Edward Norton?

[@issafk8]

can’t believe with all that money that goes into that car a timing chain doesn’t get replaced?!

[@DJ_SuperFreak]

Is the Evo ok? The subaru must be defeated!

[@jdmboyscout7947]

Check valve lash

[@joshjones2053]

Atleast the exhaust sounds good lol

[@syedahmad9124]

u need to higher up ur compression ratio when put on the bigger cam shaft. Ur compression is lost bcz of the intake valve closing more late than smaller cam.✌️ 2cent

[@CL9k24a3]

This was disturbing to watch, all hope and deams despairing right out of his eyes.

[@shaunc8189]

Modifications to the car they said it’s will be easy they said 🤦‍♂️ ha ha always fun playing with cars

[@ButtKickersReviews]

I’m trying to figure out why you’re using such large injectors on an NA engine. You’d be at like 50% duty cycle on E85 lol

[@upnorthviking823]

Because the stock injectors get maxed out with bolt ons only.welcome to the k series world newbie!

[@MyLonewolf25]

Dude 440s are tiny May as well have kept the 1050s tbh

[@VWayyyyyyyy]

Very interesting swap, but sad to see the numbers. Lesson learned and this is coming from a ex Honda Guy.

[@griplimit]

The K thinks it’s a KA, because it’s in Canada eh?

[@drechsla]

Nick looks and sounds like Edward Norton

[@robevans916]

I know i know - internet technician here. But slow down before you go replacing the chain. No way the chain stretched enough to allow 100psi cranking pressure loss over night. Start with properly timing the engine. Also, remember if the aftermarket cams are installed with a retarded installed centerline (usually done for more top end power) you will lose cranking compression (not 100psi, but maybe 20-30). But all this is moot unless you’ve done a compression test on the engine before the camshaft swap.

[@speedacademy]

Read the pinned post. 😁

[@KevinMartin44128]

God Bless hope all is well!

[@dexterity6195]

holyy shit that sounded terrible on start up. gotta hate dry heads x-(