The Toyota Tundras ONE Major Weakness - Long Term Update

Our High Mileage, Long Term 2008 Toyota Tundra 5.7L V8 SR5 Pickup Truck has been super reliable until we tried to replace the transmission oil pan - RUST
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[@zip7806]

My 2001, V8 Tundra has over 600,000 miles and still runs like a champ every day.

[@horacioaguilera1817]

Sheeshhhh how long have you had it?

[@johnkennedy7463]

They average 475k and up when they enter the junkyard if and when one makes it to the junkyard

[@malcomxxx2379]

Pictures of the milage or I refuse to believe that 😂

[@johnkennedy7463]

@@malcomxxx2379 who cares what you believe da

[@malcomxxx2379]

@@johnkennedy7463 did I hurt your feelings🫢

[@GGdevelopment]

I like when the creators are humble enough to admit defeat and take the car to another shop lol

[@markconway2677]

You guys might want to check out Corrosion-X to both get the bolts to break loose and also to treat the entire underneath so it doesn't rust in the future. They have an HD formula that is useful in harsh environments (it's designed to corrosion-proof US Navy fighter aircraft at sea)

[@gm5383]

I can sympathise with this so much, I just had the same issue with an mx5 ABS sensor - snapped bolt, snapped the extractor bit, snapped a carbide drill bit trying to drill it out... 5 minute job becomes a 5 day job...

[@MrSoremuscles]

Same here! Snapped extractor bolt in a m6!!! Had to pull the alternator out and wait a week for the machine shop to drill it out..

[@mrpasciak92]

I learned this the hard way! Next time (hopefully not a next time) get a dremel with a few of the small green grinding stones. This will make getting the extractor out very easy. Next time I will use the green dremel bit to just remove the bolt! Those extractor bits are very hard, bolts are soft.

[@MyHomeGarage]

Who doesn't love a good extraction. Just did a 2014 accord sway bar bushing bolt. Drilled it through the frame to the underside and tapped it the same way. We do what we gotta do in the rust belt.

[@timberthane]

whenever removing rusted frozen bolt, I like to apply some impact with a hammer and drift onto the head of the bolt. The impact down through the screw will fracture the adhesion and the screw will come out quite often without breaking.

[@briancorrigan5350]

Absolutely, it is part of the blessed trinity of getting stuck stuff unstuck or installed - shock (really unloading the tension/adhesion between the bolt and the hole), heat (the blue wrench, the fire pliers), and seldom used vibration. Okay, there is also penetrating fluids, and slow and steady back and forth. And when it all goes to hell, break out the hot metal glue gun and weld a nut to the bolt stub you just snapped the head off. Or, maybe break off a few drill bits and extractors as foreplay first. Thor's hammer to bang a slot into the mangled head? This is why god made visegrips. This is the part of living in the North East that I don't miss. It builds character though.

[@Outlaw_j84]

Ok…

[@mrmcgraw3706]

If it’s liquid it comes out without a fight.

[@thomasdeir6212]

I did a complete transmission fluid/filter/gasket change and had no issues. I was worried but nothing broke and I even reused the bolts. I’m clearly blessed after watching this video! My 2007 Tundra 5.7 is also from Canada (Ontario) with 460k and was never rust proofed before me owning it.

[@prestongillispie9279]

Did you take it to a place to get it rust Proofed.

[@riceboy890]

Sometimes being a car guy means having great friends who can bail you out when you get in over your head. Great seeing the vlog by Vinh!

[@daves984]

Had that same style oil plug on my front dif fill on my 4 runner strip out. I always weld nuts onto stripped, broken, and rounded off fasteners. When that fill plug stripped that's what you needed . On the transmission pan bolts just dropping a nut over the end of the bolt and filling the nut with weld. Wait til it's not glowing red then back it out.

[@cdsprech]

Can't wait for more truck content! I'm not biased or anything with my 2020 Tundra! Also, I am very interested to hear about the Eibach kit, I've been eyeing that as well. Make sure you check your front caliper pins too, they like to corrode in the salt. Mine have only seen two winters but desperately needed a clean up already.

[@bewareofmountainlions4429]

Sorry to hear about them disabling remote start on your key fobs unless you pay a subscription fee. They need to be class actioned for it if they go through with it.

[@EcBuddy123]

My 4runner pins were so corroded, they wouldn't come out so I just replaced my calipers. One was sticking anyway...

[@mariosola1]

and break lines

[@englear-ak8333]

You guys are my absolute favorite! Keep up all the good work!

[@growanewsystem4141]

This is why I love speed academy, watching these videos reminds me of why I hate cars but love cars. You guys have mountains of patience! Keep t it up man

[@felixrobitaille8170]

Mechanic here from Quebec dealing with this everyday. Gonna give you 2-3 tricks to help you in the future. First off when going with the torche always have a spray bottle full of water. Help not burning rubber stuff, wires, what not and keep the heat localised. Also its easy to stop a small fire and it can be used to quench the bolt, helping further releashing it Second: hammer the socket on. Vibration helps brake the rust off and help the socket bite into the bolt. 3/8 socket is a must for rusted/striped 10mm Third: dont be scared of cutting the head off with the torches. The heat will help relashing whatever is keeping the bolt from turning and you are sure to have something to grab on afterwards. If the bolt goes through in this scenario dont try to back it off, screw it. The thread inside the aluminium are cleans, the ones on top arent it will go by the top like butter Hopes it help anyone with rusted out bolts

[@HatTrick-oi8fi]

I feel your pain. I am going through a similar issue replacing the evap vent valve on my G35 coupe. I have to drop the charcoal canister, but every stud and bolt is snapping.

[@manqkasgarage6215]

In this case you can try to weld a nut or the “bolt” let it cool down and try to unscrew not with impact gun 😃 if it’s snap do it again. And with welding you heated it too. I’ve been using this method on a lot of snapped or rusty bolts and even on a head bolt and it works good every time. Sometimes it’s very frustrating and slow ,but it’s pretty straightforward. Good luck if you have that problem in future( I hope you not) but you can try this method.

[@TheJanz3n]

Came here to say the same thing.

[@adampinczesgarageandfabric9930]

I'm with you guys. I grew up in upstate NY where they salt the roads until they are slick from the salt and no better way than welding on a nut and that saves you for future repairs where you can then go heli coil if you have to.

[@funnypranker34]

You Can’t do it to aluminum, it’s too soft you’ll warp or even melt the trans case

[@funnypranker34]

@Random how much is too much heat for aluminum before the surface warps and/or melt?

[@funnypranker34]

@Random it might warp

[@senglebe]

I think you could easily get those remaining studs out with stud extractors. It comes out much easier than you’d think. A little PB blaster. Also using an impact I’ve found yields much better results. The impact hammers tends to knock past the rust a lot better than using a ratchet. My steps are usually impact first, weld nuts on, and then stud extractor.

[@Joseph-C]

First step should always be soak in penetrating oil. After bolts have soaked, overnight with a few applications if it's this bad, then IMPACT ONLY. Using the slow gradual torque of a hand wrench will twist off the end of the bolts every single time. If impact gun cannot reach a bolt then at least hammer on the surface of the head to shock the threads loose.

[@senglebe]

@@Joseph-C agreed. It's the light hammering motion that is really key

[@alb12345672]

@@Joseph-C THat is exactly what I did with my lexus gs. Same transmission. penetrating oil a few days, and low power 1/4" impact.

[@davehudson4607]

I just sold my 2010 Tudra, regular Cab, 6 1/2’ box. 370,000 Km’s. A great truck. Upgraded to a 2021, the 5.7 was just too good to make the change to the new V6 Twin Turbo. Guys clean up the the underside of that truck every time you change your tires. My 2010 looked new compared to yours. Clean, wipe down, and touch up the paint! I’m sure my snow road conditions are no better than yours, being just north of Montreal. Keep up the good work!

[@ajcaiati]

EXCELLENT Job removing the broken bolts, and installing the HELI COILS. I did a lot of that when I was working on the Big Trucks!

[@Uppermost_1]

I love your Tundra videos. I'm the original owner of an 08' Tundra and always check your channel for these updates

[@nimajneb02]

Man I've never realised what a nightmare snow/salt is for vehicles up there. So glad I don't have to even think about it

[@georgebishop9898]

This is probably too late. I’ve been in Texas my whole life, all I can say is you won’t be disappointed. Freedom and state so big you can chose your own climate! Come here please!!!!

[@kevinc31]

Hell yeah. Love all these vids. Keep it up guys.

[@TheSiCkhobby]

Had to deal with this with my 2008 tundra a few months ago when I serviced my transmission and changed the filter. Ended up all besides 3 bolts snapped and we ended having to drill them out and get some helicoils from our local auto zone and when putting the pan back on used a healthy amount of anti seize to hopefully help in the future.

[@PalmettoNDN]

Every Toyota tech I've spoken to says if you change your transmission fluid with full synthetic fluid every 60k you never need to change the filter - even if it's a heavy work truck. One told me he saw a 400k mi Tundra produce farm truck that followed that rule. Tranny switched on a dime and never had a filter change, just the absolute best quality fluid ON TIME each time. It's more expensive but worth it for the longetivity.

[@mikeb6386]

I put antiseize on everything I take apart and it seems to always work. Saves a lot of headace the next time.

[@goldentrucker7921]

Great video all together though. **Everyone in salted road states be aware** those pan bolts will be rusted, and have high chance of breaking off in the transmission housing. They'll need to be extracted, or drilled out .. possibly retaped. Start with a center punch marking in dead center of bolt. Then drill with smallest bit, gradually working your way up. 3/16 usually will push the bolt out. Use lots of heat if you have enough bolt to grab with vise grips. Cover internals with aluminum foil, wrap tight except for the bolt you're working on. You can also weld a nut on. Use pb blaster on the pan bolts days prior. You can massage in with a qtip.

[@GS-xp5jq]

Great content as always!

[@robinstewart6510]

An ounce of prevention. Every time I'm under my 2016 Limited, I spray any areas showing even the slightest sign of rust with flat black Rust-Oleum. Only takes a couple of minutes. Even touch up the exhaust with the Rust-Oleum mat-black High Heat formula. The underside still looks pretty decent. No rusted bolts and similar.

[@willmclean4306]

My tundra literally has the EXACT same thing. Tried to tighten the fu$&ing plug and my pan fractured in the same area. Haven’t had a chance to break all the bolts off yet, but that’s next. Appreciate you guys.

[@shawnl1509]

The average day of a rust belt mechanic. Space grease(antiseize) on the new bolts FTW. Good job guys.

[@elic.2443]

Rad video! Great job at NV auto too!!!

[@Jmontesino93]

Can’t wait for the new update for this truck 🔥.

[@4.0cowboy]

Hey man, the transmissions on Toyota can be tricky. I highly reccomend that you contact IPT transmissions when you need help in this sector. John is an absolute expert with these transmissions and he walked me through a valve body upgrade on my truck when my stock valve body failed.

[@LonTierney]

Until NV Auto came in I was going to say the truck was totaled! Nice work!

[@zenitha6]

Welding a nut to the left over studs normally helps me out. Great effort guys.

[@PANTYEATR1]

DP's RING notification went off😅 with Ring you're always home💪 come to Central Florida, we'd love to have you,💪

[@armedmariner]

LOVE this video! This is normal life. Not some screenshot for a professional movie. Bravo. You guys win the Emmy for Reality TV. Love the guy (the cool!) that says “I guess I am good”. Haha. awesome.

[@wangofree]

This is a nightmare that I experienced on my 07. Why did I foolishly think I had to change the trans filter I don't know. Half the bolts snapped off. I couldn't extract them. I ended up drilling up through the case and using bolts, lock washers and nuts to seal the pan. Lesson is: DON'T REMOVE THE PAN!!!

[@chevypreps6417]

Nice work on the heli coil fix.............you do know what your doing,

[@stiricky3745]

Come over to Colorado. Big car culture, mild-ish winters and absolutely no rust! We’d love to have you guys!

[@johnbasiglone1219]

Yeah, Colorado is a sanctuary state and taking in criminals from all over the world, you might as well add a couple socialists from Canada.

[@HostmorkeCZ]

I’m excited for the truck series!

[@rufusmarmeduke]

Come to Southern Utah! 255 sunny days per year, close to everything, and some of the most scenic driving in the country!

[@polandadam98]

just a tip you probably want to red loctite your helicoils since sometimes helicoils strip or back out when you remove the bolt, only draw back is you probably have to wait for the loctite to dry

[@BrunerTuner]

Y'all come on down to Texas for sure!! You guys would love it here. Good car culture, and lots of good car businesses here. We'd love to see you ole Canucks here!

[@mikeevangelista1532]

Please dont move!!! Love the quality of content with some local heroes!

[@fromabove9774]

I watched this video last night, and today drenched my 21' tundra transmission pan in rust check.

[@EnriqueReyesJrREALTOR]

I grew up in California and worked on cars for over 30 years. I typically did not have to deal with rust the way you guys do. But the torch, cutoff tool, saws all, penetrating oil became my friend. I'd usually get as much penetration oil on the rusted areas, & let it soak over night or even a few days if possible. It was usually the magic along with the torch that worked. If you move to California your hourly rate has to be pretty high, in order to survive. But that's what you have to do, plus work every angle to maximize profits or you will go out of business. The weather is nice, traffic is horrible. (I moved to North West Arkansas for a better quality of life.)

[@alanleclair1]

Don't forget fluid film on those nice new transmission bolts!

[@bgee461]

That's more of the stuff I'm used to seeing. I see these guys down south working on 20 year old cars like it's nothing.

[@saudk9261]

Its true.. I have a 1997 Toyo T100.. with barely any rust on it.. South is good for something..

[@spoolin2bars]

You guys should come down to Texas. Dallas area Still gets a little cold in the winter for ya. No state tax, great tracks to visit and best of all, no rust!

[@mitchcampion393]

Great vid. I just bought all the parts to pull the pan, hopefully my bolts arent that bad 😅

[@hfdewees]

Great video!

[@mattkrazit6414]

Woof. What a slog. So now, DP gains the cracked Tundra trans fluid pan debacle to compliment PT's S2000 excessive RTV mishap. All joking aside, you know the rest of us home mechanics/enthusiasts end up in similar situations. Thanks for sharing your pain. 😉

[@jeremyadams1742]

Thumbs up for Vinh's cooking skills

[@MAYNE_line]

A rusted out Toyota? Bolts stripping? I feel your pain! Expect the ones I’ve worked on, are usually 30 years older, and have been sitting in a field 😅

[@jimnielsen4076]

By your title I suspected cam tower oil leak. I'm glad you got your pan repaired.

[@reallunacy]

The nice thing about being a real mechanic is all the tools you've bought for all the previous jobs. The amount of times I've had to debate whether I should buy all the tools for the job or just pay the guy the same price to use the tools he already has.

[@ryanehoward]

Vinh is the man!

[@samuelstevens9743]

After learning about this issue I sprayed all those bolts with fluid film, top and bottom

[@AxModdedxMayham]

Recently moving from the north to Florida and going through my first summer here, it really isn't more humid than a northern summer! Auto insurance costs on the other hand is absolutely absurd here unfortunately. Georgia or the Carolinas are solid choices though!

[@givemefreespeechyoutubehitlers]

Where abouts did you live in Canada? Florida insurance can't be higher than Ontario insurance lol

[@calf6349]

good job on the repair. One suggestion, instead of installing bolts, I would install 6mm x 1.0 pitch studs, thread lock them in place and use locking flange nuts. I would go with the metal locking nuts and not nylon. I just bought a 2011 tundra and I am going to make the modification now to avoid this concern later. thanks, guys. !

[@paulnunes2942]

Love these guys!

[@elitorres4206]

Texas is definitely the best move, lots of land where you guys can build a shop and have the house on the same land! You guys will love it !! (Super biased answer since I’ve been in Texas for 9 years 😂)

[@thelandcruiserproject]

I love my Mini-Ductor II for the jobs that are rusty. I might have tried lots of penetrant, then the induction tool and finally a smaller impact. Rust is terrible though. Can you weld nuts onto the broken studs to try and get them out?

[@sharkskin3448]

☝️clever, this one.

[@AirplaneFreak]

For added measure, I'd add some anti seize compound to the bolts after the Heli-Coil fix.

[@rockfangd]

I went through this exact pan issue a few weeks ago. The pan rotted where the part is welded for the plug. The whole thing broke off with the plug. 10 bolts broke for the pan as well. Had to drill them all out. I blame the dissimilar metals for the breaking bolts issue. Even after removing the pan the remainder of the bolts still snapped off. So soft bolts, I was only using a 1/4 ratchet. I did this all on my back in my driveway. I almost threw in the towel like you did. Even the one bolt in the back side toward the center broke like yours. 2 days later up and running. Fluid was nasty. Almost 300k miles still trucking

[@DaveSabol]

All of your content is awesome, but I have to admit a bias since I own 2 yotas and a Subaru. Specifically, i really enjoy the Tundra stuff since I have a 2014 so this video and promise of some upgrades piqued my interest. I have 125,528K/78K miles on mine and it's running strong, but I'd love to smooth out some rough edges since my first upgrade. Make it happen PD/DP!

[@Neil4Speed]

Keep it in Canada! Kelowna! No rust, great summers, wineries and breweries and great weather overall

[@hahaha12345678993]

i love vinhs sense of humor

[@IF309]

Move to central coast California! The absolute best weather, close to great racetracks (Laguna Seca, Buttonwillow) and no more worries with rust.

[@zerkfiter]

I always do filter with fluid so I'm kinda glad you have to drop pan to drain.05 sport Trac & 01 mustang gt.oh yeah live in CT so plenty of rust bolts on Trans holding up pretty well.

[@thebarber7197]

love that Tundra content!

[@aaronsuchy8852]

So rusty!!!! You are brave souls for even driving that truck. My hat is off to you gentlemen. Also, very glad I do not live in an a region that gets salted roads.

[@minhnguyen96]

i love the transition from the different mechanic

[@liammulvey5209]

Just did this job on my 2007 a month ago had same issues I tried every trick in the book but the only one that worked was welding a nut on the broken studs it only took all day to do a 45 minute job lol

[@bpowa]

Painful I have not changed the trans fluid in my Tundra. Hope it goes well when I do.

[@notorqsti5117]

love the tundra updates

[@denton8047]

I rub some fluid film on the bolts on the oil pan/plugs/etc from a bucket. Sometimes I spray it, but it's easier to use a rag and get a thick application on the engine parts while avoiding belts and exhaust manifolds. 10mm bolts are just going to rust away, it's a pain and being between steel and alu makes it even worse often from galvanic corrosion, vibratight, or some type of additional sacrificial coating helps but needs to be redone every few years as the coating on the steel bolts weakens and wears off.

[@swappedoutZ71]

Loved my tundra but don't miss working on it.

[@6.2Slomaro]

I use pipe wrench on rusty bolts. It always works for me.

[@siamiam]

almost makes me glad that most of the winters up here in interior Alaska is too cold to use salt on the roads

[@firesupport162]

Love the Tundra its proven itself more reliable than any non Toyota ive ever owned im the 5th owner of a 2011 and playing catchup on maintenance still

[@mariosola1]

Tundras are amazing trucks. I've been fortunate enough to drive one for the past 15 years. Bought a 4x4 07' 4.7 with tow package new and it currently has 135k. 160K is absolutely nothing. I put new oem struts, shocks, and new oem breaks at 130K. I've done 1 alternator, 1 break line, 2 serpentine belts, and a front passenger axle. Haven't skipped a single service interval and it runs just as good as when it was new 15 years ago.

[@bikes7777]

Brake, not break.

[@GenoDepaoli-bf8in]

2007 Silverado vortex max. 235,000 miles, no check engine lights, no oil loss between oil changes, original, water pump, alternator, starter. In fact oil sending unit is the only part replaced. Runs like the day I bought it.

[@costasmandylor7252]

I use Amsoil's heavy duty metal protectant. Dries to the touch, doesn't attract dirt, and stays on unless you go after it with acetone.

[@littlejoey22]

A bunch of tips on here already, just thought I’d throw my hat in the ring, when drilling the bolts that snapped, get some reverse drill bits, I swear half the time, the bolts come loose during the drill out process.

[@johnd830]

Watching this video has me seriously nervous to do the transmission fluid on my 2008 4Runner. One stripped bolt spirals into a cluster 🦆 of sheared bolts 😓

[@alb12345672]

My Lexus GS - same trans. I used an 1/4 impact on low power, worked out each bolt but I am not sure the Lexus (or 4 runner ) has the spacers. There are slightly different gaskets.

[@mondomoleno.3404]

I have a whole collection of bolt heads, too! Mine are from the fenders on this truck's (maybe great?) grandpa, my '85 Toyota Pickup

[@Hitman-ds1ei]

GM used this level system on a few tranmissions back in early 90,s but not many checked OEM instructions that it had to be running in park (which made it a 2 man job on a hoist) and consequently the transmissions got a bad name for reliability constantly running low oil levels caused aggressive clutch wear and shifting complaints

[@jameslemaire8932]

For anyone else facing the rusty bolts. I used a small cutting disc to cut off the tops of the rusty bolts first, then sprayed. None of the bolts that were cut broke on me. Two others did, where the tips weren't exposed. I tried heat on those, but no luck. Carefully drilled and tapped those out, was really no big deal, just drill centered, straight, and not too deep. I started with maybe a1/8" bit.

[@53066bootleg]

I had to replace the oilpan on my 04 sienna and the bolts broke so easily and it wasn't anywhere near as rust as that. Extract them and then chase the threads or heli coil them.

[@tedm9865]

This happened to me on my 4Runner and I am in PA. Keep going South for rust free cars. Tennessee is good too.

[@ernestt4969]

I under coat my 2020 Tundra every fall with fluid film. Warm it up on a hot plate to around 100 degrees and spray it with an air gun. No rust anywhere and I live in the rust belt. Highly recommend it.

[@ndh8445]

Vinh is a legend!

[@VinhTheKitchen]

Darn right!

[@patrioticimmigrant8817]

As a toyota fan and toyota tech for many years. I have found that if you power wash and clean the underside of your vehicle once a year it prevents the rust build up from road grime and salt.

[@amoni1959]

Lol. I was just at NV Auto. They modified my OE rad shroud to fit better Spal Fans. Rly nice guys. Move the Texas. Ppl leaving cali to go to Texas. 👍🏾

[@mrmizzarcus]

The weather here in Victoria isn’t too bad! Probably the best in Canada :)

[@scottgarvy]

Nice job!

[@thnksno]

I just keep anything I care about out of the salt. In fact, yesterday I washed the truck anticipating snow today. But last night, buddy said, stop by for a bit. There wasn't any snow yet, but the county already spread sand mixed with salt and the pavement started to condensate. So this morning, I ran the truck through the wash again, then hosed out the wheel wells/running boards when I got home. It is now in the heated garage salt free and will sit there until the roads dry up. In the meantime, I'll drive our "disposable" vehicles if I need to go out.

[@mannamedbanjo]

If you can, always try to buy a truck from the south or a sunbelt state. Arizona probably is best. Then after passing inspection, just coat that thing every month or so. I had a 2007 tacoma (sold it, hated the clutch feel) and I would periodically go up underneath and coat the frame. Had a 1995 Isuzu trooper (better clutch feel by miles) and I sprayed it a lot also. The guy who bought it said you could still see factory marks on it from 1995. Fluid film is what will save these trucks. Get a bottle today. I don't care if your truck is in a recall or not, spray that underneath. It just takes a little rust to ruin the whole car.

[@billvanderpol2066]

Come to BC! Pretty warm and almost no snow! We do have fires, floods, heat domes and pestilence though so there is that..

[@pseudonymBOB]

So polite on camera. If it were me, im not sure what I’d be throwing more of…tools or F bombs