Speaking in Tongues - Part 1: Human Languages or Ecstatic Utterances? | Acts 2 | 1 Corinthians 14

The subject of speaking in tongues is highly debated among believers today. What was Paul referring to in 1 Corinthians 14? Was it different than what happened in Acts 2? Is speaking in tongues referring to human languages? Ecstatic Utterances? Something else?
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[@dmcgwhisper5945]

The gift of speaking other languages was given so that the apostles could preach the Gospel far and wide, not to confuse their countrymen or self edify for nought but carnal feelings. The gifts are given to carry out God's commission, not to stand around and boast.

[@SalemK-ty4ti]

There's no debate about it. Speaking in Tongues has been proven scientifically to be meaningless unintelligible speach. It's not a language. Do some research and look at all the unbiased studies have proven and you will see speaking in Tongues is nonsense.

[@MichaelZoltan]

"For one who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God; for no one understands, but in his spirit he speaks mysteries. ... One who speaks in a tongue edifies himself; but one who prophesies edifies the church. Now I wish that you all spoke in tongues, but even more that you would prophesy; and greater is one who prophesies than one who speaks in tongues, unless he interprets, so that the church may receive edifying. ... I thank God, I speak in tongues more than you all;" {1 Corinthians 14:2, 4-5, 18 NASB95} There is nothing in the scriptures teachings on tongues that even elude to it being only for the Apostles or preaching the Gospel to people of unknown languages or a language different from the evangelist. That's garbage teaching that has absolutely no basis in scripture. Do you speak in tongues, because I suspect that you don't since you subscribe to this line of reasoning... It's a typical response from someone who comes from a belief system that rejects spiritual gifts, like speaking in tongues, are still for today.

[@QueMari]

Precisely!

[@ourhumblecommode]

Agreed 💯

[@AnneTaylor-kk8ze]

Yes tongues was different languages so as to preach the gospel far and wide

[@LouiG777]

Blessings to 119 for spreading the real Gospel

[@danielbarnard1785]

A couple of years ago my wife and I attended a local gathering of believers. Most of the speakers spoke in our local language Afrikaans which is similar to Dutch or Flemish (Belgian language). My wife was raised English and did not understand most of the speakers. However one Pastor spoke as most of the others except that she understood every word this specific person spoke even though he spoke in the same language all the others did. Both my wife and I were moved by the words of the earnest Pastor although it was not apparent to us what was happening. In this case the words were revealed in a supernatural means. The miracle was not in the speaking but in the hearing and understanding and even more so in the moving of both our spirits.

[@julielemker2131]

Well the bible says that they heard it in their own language, not that the apostle spoke different languages

[@jdmathe]

That's exactly right!

[@MattRyniker]

@@julielemker2131 it says both

[@MattRyniker]

this miracle mentioned by Daniel is awesome but may or may not be an example of speaking in tongues. It could be interpretation or a gift of understanding not mentioned in any gift lists. The gift lists were not likely meant to be exhaustive.

[@bradzeigler3435]

There was a short period of time in my life where something attempted to take control of my speech. If it was a "gift" of tongues, I rejected it. If it was a true "gift", I'm a "no, thank you" guy. The gifts of YHWH are irrevocable. If it was from YHWH, Who is a Gentleman, He has not tried to force it on me---ever.

[@tommylinsley2081]

Bless you 119 Ministries for rightly dividing the Word of God. Many preachers and churchgoers would do well to learn from 119 Ministries.

[@GoldenQ.]

Very true.

[@studygodsword5937]

@@GoldenQ. It is interesting *HOW HE CHANGED THE SCRIPTURE* to fit his purpose, 1 example, Acts 2, he limited it to the apostles, when it was clear, that every person there, received this anointing at the 1 time event (naturally understood) !

[@guidetoopenidealmorality]

In revelation the Temple measurement standard of Angels is the same as the temple measurement standard of Men. I think the tongue of Angels is the tongue of Christ i.e. the Hebrew language. Also if the leaders of the church are called Angels of the Church then I think Hebrew is the Tongue of Angels. I love this topic being a linguist Shalom

[@dmcgwhisper5945]

Excellent!

[@hangtoughhomestead2229]

Excellent! Thank you.

[@lilitalia777]

Thank you for such a clear and thorough walkthrough of what the scripture says about tongues. I have been watching your videos on Biblical Hebrew and just yesterday saw you have so much other great content to help as I grow in my faith. Thanks again and may God continue to bless and grow this ministry! 🙏

[@GodsOHman]

Thank you for your video. I did Acts on my channel last year.

[@liamshane5338]

Thank you brothers speaking truth and word of G-d. I m glad and thanks to the Lord because I don't have kundalini spirit.

[@cyh4031]

Please keep in mind, that Acts 2 also records that many of those hearing what was going on thought the men speaking in tongues were DRUNK. So this clearly suggests the tongues were unintelligible babbling to some, but clearly not all. In addition, 1 Corinthians 13 starts out, "Though I speak with tongues of men AND OF ANGELS...". By including Angelic languages, clearly at times languages known only to God and the Angelic realm are being spoken by Spirit empowered humans! One final observation. As a believer for nearly 41 years, much of that time in Spirit filled circles, though I do believe loud tongues without interpretation, or numerous people speaking in tongues at the same time are both out of order, I have heard people speaking the same word or phrase over and over again, and though I initially had a problem with that, my problem ceased when I heard of similar people who one day while saying those one or two words, ca.e across a person who recognized the language they were speaking, and the translation of those two words turned out to be extremely meaningful to them. I have only received a few interpretations of a few words and phrases God has given me in other tongues. One turned out after years of waiting to be the Greek word for deacon, another was a Hebrew phrase in the male imperative form saying, "Would you please search", one was a Swahili phrase meaning, "Go Slowly", and the final one was a Hebrew name given to me personally in a dream that revealed I was to be one to "Bring light, inheritance, supplication, and riches"!!! So my personal experience demonstrates that just one or two words in an unknown supernaturally given language can have very significant meaning if a person will but seek the Lord and do the needed research. It took me years to understand that Greek word for deacon! The others took far less time. Shalom and blessings on Yeshua!!!

[@SalemK-ty4ti]

There's no debate about it. Speaking in Tongues has been proven scientifically to be meaningless unintelligible speach. It's not a language. Do some research and look at all the unbiased studies have proven and you will see speaking in Tongues is nonsense.

[@Popo-br8xq]

The people were confused when the 12 were given the gift of tongues, not because the 12 are like the drunk, but because they understood what the 12 were saying in the various languages they heard. The mention in Acts 2 about the 12 being like the drunk is by the people who are mocking the 12 when they were blessed with this gift. Also just to mention this, John understood the words being spoken about between the angels and also God. So where in the Bible does it mention angelic tongues where men could not understand what was being said?

[@SalemK-ty4ti]

@@Popo-br8xq I believe you meant this for someone else. You see, there is zero demonstrable evidence(AKA GOOD evidence) to believe that speaking in tongues is a language. In fact every time it has been tested scientically it has been proven to be giberish. So why do you believe what the Bible says? I mean we know that the Adam & Eve story is a myth, that Noah's flood never happened, that the Moses Exodus story never happened and that there is not one GOOD piece of evidence that Jesus rose from the dead. Yes, I know that there is a ton of bad evidence for the Bible, but a ton of bad evidence still equals zero good evidence. Peace.

[@LightSeekers777]

1 Corinthians 13 continues.... 2 And if I have the gift of prophecy, and KNOW ALL MYSTERIES and ALL KNOWLEDGE; and if I HAVE ALL FAITH, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3 And if I give ALL MY POSSESSIONS to feed the poor, and if I SURRENDER MY BODY TO BE BURNED, but do not have love, it profits me nothing...... I don't think these examples are realistic. Which would make all of these exaggerations, including "tongues of angels," HYPERBOLES!

[@SalemK-ty4ti]

@@LightSeekers777 Yeah, looking for one good piece of evidence. These are all claims, but you need to have actual good evidence to support any claim. For example I don't have faith(religious faith as in believing in things without good evidence- Hebrews 11:1) nor would I ever use faith, but I do have love. Therefore faith is not needed to have love. Also, these zero good evidence that prophecy exist. Many of the Bible's so called phophecies where written after the fact and others phophecies are utter failures. For example the Bible claims Jesus said that some of his followers would see Jesus return - "AND HERE'S THE IMPORTANT 2ND PART - THE KINGDOM OF GOD HAS COME IN POWER". Well all his followers that heard him say this have been dead for over 1900 years - and this was a failed phophecy right from Jesus according to the Bible. Conclusions- Either Jesus is a false prophet or he is a liar. And if he is a liar then he isn't the son of god since Jesus is supposed to not be able to lie and would not break any of the 10 commandments. Oh, did you forget he broke one of the 10 commandments, you know the one your not supposed to work on the Sabbath? I can't believe anyone with an open mind and open heart would believe this nonsense. (Matthew 16:28)There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.” (Mark 9:1)"He also said to them, “Amen, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see that the kingdom of God has come in power.” Peace

[@mrsbreaux2967]

When I first came to Yahshua I prayed and fasted about tongues, cause I’d heard arguments for every Christian should speak in tongues, and teachings like this. My husband was baptized in an apostolic church as a child, and swears up and down it’s the Holy Spirit. This subject has affected me more than anything. I always end up questioning if I’m really loved by God because I don’t speak in tongues. Look I struggled with abandonment issues. Anyway, for the last year a couple had come into our lives. They were telling me the same thing. I don’t have the Holy Spirit. I don’t speak in tongues. The only thing separating us is I don’t speak in tongues. I hate truth because I didn’t care for this “apostles” deliverance of the gospel. This man was really rude and arrogant. But, the people that were telling me everything I’m not…don’t keep the sabbath. Don’t do Passover. They say the sabbaths everyday and everything is everyday. Listening to these people really threw me off. Plus my husband love for the apostolic religion…when I’d say anything that differed from their theology he would get upset with me…I wasn’t good enough to speak on biblical things cause I can’t quote scripture and verse. I absolutely hate this subject. It’s left a bad taste in my mouth about the brothers and sisters in this religion…really the religion in general. and that’s not good. We are supposed to love. This has affected me so much you have no idea. I am now putting those things away. I have the last month. The doubts about myself and not feeling good enough. Focusing more on my obedience instead on “tongues” getting ready for Passover my favorite time of year. So, I’ve been feeling lighter and loved. My husband is listening to me more…and not getting upset when I point things out. He now has questions to…but he’s focusing on his obedience. I’ve been prayed on etc…I’ve been baptized 4 times cause I was told my first 3 wasn’t good enough. I was baby baptized, and before I understood Jesus I was more new age, and after I found Yahshua I was baptized… then I had to do it again….pretty much to help me get tongues and the people that did it before “weren’t holy enough”. This is what this doctrine has done to my life…I’m back where I need to be, but it hasn’t been easy I tell you that.

[@mrniceguy3750]

Being Holy, doing good works, knowing enough scriptures does not equal receiving the Holy Ghost.. Nor should someone seek to speak in tongues…. The free gift of the Holy Ghost isn’t tongues, it’s spiritual life!! Any you will receive this gift by firstly believing it. Secondly having true repentance coupled with thanksgiving.. You will know that you’ve received this gift of eternal life by the initial evidence of speaking in a unlearned language as the Spirit of God gives the utterance…. God filled me with the Holy Ghost speaking in tongues when I was an alcoholic… He delivered me instantly from several addictions that night… God delivered my wife from years of meth addiction on night right in our dirt driveway. She began to cry out to God for help, and all of a sudden like a mighty wind she started to speak in a language that sounded Asian of all things.. Was it God? Will she went from sticking a needle in her arm twice a day, to completely sober, no cravings, no withdrawals.. That was eight years ago…. God has worked wonders in our lives and blessed us greatly.. Why have I chosen to reply to your comment…. Because we now attend a Apostolic Pentecostal Church.. They are the only Church that believes in the manifestation of the Spirit… All of the others are just religions, no power to set the captive free…. God bless you, just trust and believe. God loves you, and wants you to have this wonderful gift!!

[@LightSeekers777]

I too struggled with this for many years, but now feel so blessed I never spoke in BABBLE. Jesus taught us how to pray, His disciples asked Him to teach them how, and He DID NOT speak in some crazy babbling. MTOI has the best teaching series called Baptism of Fire. So many verses and evidence showing exactly what John the Baptist meant when he said Yeshua will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. I will never fall for their lies about tongues again.

[@mrniceguy3750]

@@LightSeekers777 Don’t be fooled by Satans false impression of tongues.. Babbling isn’t the Spirit… You shall know them by their fruit… When I say that myself, and my drug addicted wife was filled with the Holy Ghost and spoke in an unknown language as the Spirit of God gave the utterance, just like in the book of Acts, that is because it’s exactly how it happened… Me or my wife hadn’t stepped foot in a church for almost 30 years…. Just a women with a need of deliverance crying out to God out in the middle of nowhere on a dirt road. God meet her where she was and delivered her from her circumstance…. No babble, no coaching, speaking in tongues was nowhere in her thoughts… She simply had a great need.. Her life has been restored.. Glory to God, she entered into the rest that the sabbath represents… God bless.. don’t be fooled!!

[@martystover5689]

@Mrs Breaux the father knows the heart. Speaking in tongues is just one of the gifts. 1 Peter 4:10 "Each of you should use whatever gift you have received to serve others, as faithful stewards of God’s grace in its various forms." I pray this is an encouragement to you sister! Keep your thoughts on things above! ❤

[@mrniceguy3750]

@@martystover5689 Diverse tongues is a gift of the Spirit for the edification of the church body.. Tongues is what happens when one receives the infilling of the Spirit. Two different things.

[@Popo-br8xq]

There are folks that ask whether you are filled with Holy Spirit or baptized in the Spirit, and then therefore ask whether you speak in tongues as an acknowledgment of that. However, 1 Corinthians 13 makes clear that the fruit of the Spirit love, not any definition of love, but the love of that of the Bible found in 1 Corinthians 13, which is what I'd say is true love, is seen more important than "speaking in tongues." There are no example in the Bible for the tongue of angels to be random utterances, but every encounter of angels speaking to humans had conversations, in which the humans understood.

[@LightSeekers777]

Excellent point, and Jesus taught us how to pray in clear language too.

[@Valdal98]

So true. I’m charismatic, but I believe that charismatic and Pentecostals emphasize tongues way more than is necessary. It is not a requirement of salvation, rather it is a gift given by God for certain purposes, usually the furtherance of the gospel. Noise does not equal tongues.

[@studygodsword5937]

@@Valdal98 Be a doer of God's Word ! [Luk 11:13 NKJV] 13 "If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will [your] heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him!" [Jas 1:5-7 NKJV] 5 If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all liberally and without reproach, and it will be given to him. 6 But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for he who doubts is like a wave of the sea driven and tossed by the wind. 7 For let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord;

[@johnlawson6851]

I'm so happy you guys see it this way. There's a few big names in the Hebrew roots movement that push this ecstatic charismatic tongues really hard.

[@JeffSmith-it4tm]

Like Jim staley.

[@MasculineVitality]

Don’t divide the church, some believers feel the holy spirit and reach other when they start to speak in tounges.

[@johnlawson6851]

@@JeffSmith-it4tm Oh I didn't know

[@johnlawson6851]

@@MasculineVitality Are you saying that by not accepting the charismatic doctrines we are dividing the church?

[@JeffSmith-it4tm]

For one who prays in another (Human) language that others don't understand (bi-lingual) you edify yourself but not others because they don't understand that other human language.....Pretty easy. but the unlearned like to invent doctrines from the added words not in the original manuscripts and the word unknown was added.

[@brittwilliams2148]

Very good when will part 2 come on?

[@JeffSmith-it4tm]

IF speaking in babble was so important then we would all have it yet today despite it being supernatural most have to be taught by another human on how to do it. In the end I've had hands laid on me, Prayed over and I don't have this gift and if others do great but we're ALL baptized in the Spirit when we come to faith.

[@SalemK-ty4ti]

There's no debate about it. Speaking in Tongues has been proven scientifically to be meaningless unintelligible speach. It's not a language. Do some research and look at all the unbiased studies have proven and you will see speaking in Tongues is nonsense.

[@obeyourfatheryah]

2 things Babel is literally how Babylon was named. and "babbling in the holy spirit" is coming pretty close to some kind of blasphemy of the holy spirit, as far as I can tell. Stand firm, brother!

[@LightSeekers777]

@@obeyourfatheryah I also think since our prayers are compared to incense, it could be strange fire.

[@Valdal98]

Very accurate.

[@JeffSmith-it4tm]

For one who prays in another (Human) language that others don't understand (bi-lingual) you edify yourself but not others because they don't understand that other human language.....Pretty easy. but the unlearned like to invent doctrines from the added words not in the original manuscripts and the word unknown was added.

[@GodsGreenPlanet]

Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine. Acts 2:13 KJV The spirit speaks a language before Babel. Before the tongue was divided by GOD. This is why people understand from many nations, yet some would say they were intoxicated.

[@JeffSmith-it4tm]

For one who prays in another (Human) language that others don't understand (bi-lingual) you edify yourself but not others because they don't understand that other human language.....Pretty easy. but the unlearned like to invent doctrines from the added words not in the original manuscripts and the word unknown was added.

[@nameaboveallnames1267]

Hello brother, Filled with new wine represents them being filled with the Ruach Ha qodesh(holy spirit) so the answer to the person asking was a true statement,the new wine can be seen in Mattithyahu Mathew 9:17 “Neither do people pour new wine into old wineskins. If they do, the skins will burst; the wine will run out and the wineskins will be ruined. No, they pour new wine into new wineskins…” 😊 shabbat shalom brother I always enjoy your videos ,may father Yahuah keep blessing you.

[@david_adoptee]

Are you sure about that, concerning Matt. 9:17?.. how would new wine (the Holy Spirit) cause those who enter into the New Covenant to “burst”? Are you sure our Lord was not responding to the question of fasting, regarding his departure, when the New Covenant would be established, that Old be put away? It is true that you cannot mix the New with the Old, since they are contrary to one another.

[@nameaboveallnames1267]

@@david_adoptee You have to back up to when the conversation started And when the Pharisees saw it, they said to His taught ones, “Why does your Teacher eat with tax collectors and sinners?” And יהושע hearing this, said to them, “Those who are strong have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. But go and learn what this means, ‘I desire compassion and not offering.’ For I did not come to call the righteous to repentance, but sinners. Mattithyahu (Matthew) 9:11‭-‬13 TS2009 So it is the sinners who is being now filled with the spirit not the old taught ones.See this is a reference to what the new covenant actually is a new bride because by Torah a man cannot remarry his past divorced wife as in Deuteronomy 24:1-4. And since Yahuah has divorced Yisrael as seen in “And I saw that for all the causes for which backsliding Yisra’ĕl had committed adultery, I had put her away and given her a certificate of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Yehuḏah did not fear, but went and committed whoring too. Yirmeyahu (Jeremiah) 3:8 TS2009 So because Yisrael is divorced from Yahuah he sent his son to create a new bride the new wineskin,taking away the old temple worship “And I shall give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you. And I shall take the heart of stone out of your flesh, and I shall give you a heart of flesh, and put My Spirit within you. And I shall cause you to walk in My laws and guard My right-rulings and shall do them. Yehezqĕl (Ezekiel) 36:26‭-‬27 TS2009 He took away the temple and places the ruach haqodesh in our hearts. Let me further explain,Yahuah always dwelt in a tent not a house of cedar he told this to David when he wanted to build him a house,later Solomon built him a house, Stephanos when confronting the Pharisees told them in Acts 7 that Solomon made Yahuah a house but Yahuah doent live in a house,this is the word Yahuah himself gave Nathan the prophet when he said, And it came to be that night that the word of יהוה came to Nathan, saying, “Go and say to My servant Dawiḏ, ‘Thus said יהוה, “Would you build a house for Me to dwell in? “For I have not dwelt in a house since the time that I brought the children of Yisra’ĕl up from Mitsrayim, even to this day, but have moved about in a Tent and in a Dwelling Place. Shemu’ĕl Bĕt (2 Samuel) 7:4‭-‬6 TS2009 This is because Yahuah is spirit and dwells in the heart of man but since the divorce we had to have our hearts torn. The tent represents our body see 2 Peter verse 13-14 and Yochanan(John)1:14 The place where the ark was kept represents our heart,this is where the commands are written see Jeremiah 31:33 so when our savior died on the cursed tree the temple veil was torn this represents the tearing open of our heart to recieve the new wine the wine poured out for the forgiveness of our sins. “For this is My blood, that of the renewed covenant, which is shed for many for the forgiveness of sins. Mattithyahu (Matthew) 26:28 TS2009 New wine represents the new covenant in which the ruach is poured out on us,therefore we no longer have a need for the kohen hagadol to go beyond the veil to speak with the father because Yahushas sacrifice tore the veil opening it up so that we can step through the veil and no longer need a Human Kohen hagadol because we have him the Kohen hagadol of the order of Melchizedek our high priest forever and since he now resides in the hearts of those who believe and trust in him.We have become priests and kings see Revelation 1:5-6 we now have the right to step through the veil and speak with the father ourselves.Filled with the new wine of the Qodesh spirit if Yahuah. Those born of water and of spirit are the new wine skins ready to be filled with the ruach haqodesh.Hope this helps you brother and I pray that the love of Elohim rest upon you. Shalom

[@david_adoptee]

@@nameaboveallnames1267 Alleluia! \o/ … Shalom Shalom. Thank you very much for this reply. Well said! And may the blessing and grace of the Most High be upon you as well, as you continue to abide in His word and in prayers. Amen.

[@david_adoptee]

@@nameaboveallnames1267 Alleluia! \o/ … Shalom Shalom, brother. Thank you very much for your thorough reply. Well said, and most assuredly edifying. The blessing and grace of the Most High be upon you as well, as you continue to abide in His word and in prayers. Amen.

[@nameaboveallnames1267]

@@david_adoptee brother David thank you kindly,Have a blessed an wonderful day 😊

[@essenceofgrowing7804]

The Epiphanius text on the Corinthian Conflict Here is the central part of the text found in Epiphanius’ Panarion Book I, Section III, Heresy 42 starting at Scholion XIII and XXI: “. . . Therefore languages are from a grace of the Spirit. Of what kind does the Apostle speak? He knew how not only the different Hebrew sounds, and manifold expressions in every single word with skills adorned with eloquence, but also the proud language of the Greeks; some who boast the ability to speak Attic, Aeolic, and being able to utter the language of the Dorics, of whom had caused the disturbances, and factions within the Corinthians, to which the Epistle was dispatched. . . . And he confessed the gift which is having the ability to proclaim [the oracles] with the Hebrew words and also teaching the Law to be a spiritual endowment. And he agreed that it is a spiritual grace to proclaim and to teach the Law in the Hebrew words.1” The issue in Corinth was about actual languages. Nothing to do with babbling. The gentiles Greeks were claiming some sort of ability knowing the various languages of the Greeks. Problem is, Paul knew the Greek dialects also (see the Greek and you’ll find this word) but Paul preferred to read the scriptures in Hebrews. We have to remember that the Tanak was written in hebrew and translated to Greek. This made some Greeks pompous. The Tanak would be read formally in hebrew. Similar to how some Catholics still read in Latin but most of the people don’t know Latin (tinkering symbols). Epiphanius was a Romanite Jew. The Catholic Church has tried to make everyone a saint in order to claim an unbroken line of authority. Epiphanius wrote in a time when Catholicism was still getting bed with Rome. The quote above is from a 2017 translation. This is why so many still don’t know about it. The word needs to get out. Speaking in tongues today, babbling, is nothing more than from a religious spirit. At Pentecost the Jews from all the nations, who heard in their native language, where once from the nations but were now Jews. They were not Ger but actual Jews. They were not perpetual Gers. Once a convert was converted… they were Jews. A resident alien was not a Jew. Don’t let anyone (Jewish Orthodox or two law Messianics) tell you that a Ger was a gentile convert. Even a Jewish convert that lived outside the land was still a Jew. They would come to learn hebrew. The issue would be on which language to speak amidst the assembly. The gentiles believers would start espousing replacement theology ideas and Paul would write for the believers in Rome to nip it in the butt. Not only did Paul teach in Greek but preferred the hebrew language but, as you see, He even taught Torah!!

[@Shinehead3]

Could Glossa be point also mean something closer to Glossary ? Speaking in Tongues aka the Echad Language of the Tanack. Shavout was the Feast Day that the Torah was given to the Mixed Multitudes. Thank you for the Shabbat Teachings. 😊 Shabbat Shalom !!!

[@dannysmith9217]

I would agree and disagree with you. The gifts have not passed. There is ZERO Scripture to confirm that. Howbeit that two prophets stand at the wall in Jerusalem prophesying until 3days before YESHUA's final return and rule over the world. Faith is one of the gifts, so is prophecy, healing, discernment, all very much in proper use today. However tongues and properly are the most counterfeited in today's hyper charismatic churches today. Satan (ha satan) always tries to COUNTERFEIT GOD throughout the ages and has been quite successful at it because man will follow man over THE WORD OF GOD. He even tried it with JESUS YESHUA in the desert temptations. You've done a great job presenting you point of view. Good job Brother Man.

[@SonsofIssac]

It looks to me in Acts ch2 that the Israel from the northern kingdom that was scattered amongst the nations in the OT… Peter quotes Joel… Joel is all about the restoration of Israel… God used to speak to his people in one language… but now they are scattered across the world in different languages

[@OneHighwayWalker]

I find the translation of these two words interesting because what is "tongues" and "languages" appears to also be what we could call "languages" and "dialects." I'd be interested in your thoughts on this because I'm no Greek scholar by any means. It's just that the one word sounds more like "dialect" than "language." Shalom!

[@dmcgwhisper5945]

Where is part 2 please?

[@david_adoptee]

Greetings… I’m not sure how the woman with the issue of blood has any correlation to tongues.. would you mind filling me in on that?

[@Popo-br8xq]

The Spirit guides us to truth. The outcome of Acts 2 was 3000 giving their life to God and being baptized. The outcome of the churches with ecstatic utterances is none of that since both the person and the others don't understand what they're saying, except for the people who can "interpret" the utterances/gibberish. Paul expounds upon the translation of when someone speaks in tongues for the edification of others.

[@SalemK-ty4ti]

There's no debate about it. Speaking in Tongues has been proven scientifically to be meaningless unintelligible speach. It's not a language. Do some research and look at all the unbiased studies have proven and you will see speaking in Tongues is nonsense.

[@RabbiMurray]

Also why didn't the 3000 speak in utterances and why didn't they write it down it would've made a hell of a racket

[@JussiYlitalo]

Those who heard the tongues in Acts 2 and understood them got interpretation from God in their spirit.

[@SalemK-ty4ti]

@@JussiYlitalo Those are just stories told by ancient people. There’s no good evidence to warrant belief that they are true. Why don’t you believe the stories in the Muslim holy book? Why don’t you believe the stories in the Hindu’s holy books? What about the church of Latter Day Saints stories? You don’t believe these other religious stories because there’s no good evidence to warrant belief. I hope you realize that there’s not even one piece of demonstrable evidence that the god of the Bible exists. Yeah, I know that there’s a ton of bad evidence, but a ton of bad evidence still equals zero good evidence.

[@SalemK-ty4ti]

@@JussiYlitalo By the way. How did you verify that this story is true? Do you just accept blindly? Do you just accept bad evidence because you want to believe? You know just because you want something to be true doesn’t make it true. It’s called wishful thinking. Peace

[@wolfgangmetcalf9557]

It’s worth noting that glossolalia is studied in the academic world in the context of people under the influence of drugs, specifically psychedelics. So there is it a glossolalia that is not from Elohim and people should be prepared to discern the spirit of it if or when they encounter it.

[@Repentance79]

Yes now I understand, The Desciples were speaking in genuine human language. It wasn't the kind of tongue that the Charismatic and some religion do.

[@christopherhorner9380]

I have to disagree with respect. There are many gifts of the spirit. Curiously there was sure a bunch of commentaries included with this argument. The division is sure a bummer.

[@newmanhyde]

Can you explain speaking in tongues Vs speaking in lips

[@estimatingonediscoveringthree]

It’s the undoing of the curse of Babel, tongues are the supernatural provision of languages that are in use to people full of the Holy Spirt for the sake of spreading the gospel to Hebrew representatives from other nations, resulting in one new citizenship in the gospel of Messiah! Salvation through the Lamb of God (that is God), instead of salvation through technology (tower of babel)

[@kathlenadeles5443]

T H AN K Y O U!!

[@missanalourenco4073]

In Pentecost they never preach to the crowd while speaking in tongues. It says they were sitting and gathered. Acts 2 says that while seated, the Holy Spirit came upon them in tongues of fire and they suddenly started glorifying God in tongues heard by the people. They heard in their own language. Now, strangely is that few of the people in the crowd, thought they were drank, why? The way I see is that, they couldn’t understand it and couldn’t hear the tongues as normal tongues from other countries. To their hear the sound was not normal which makes sense but this is my assumption to why they said the disciples were drank. Secondly, the tex says that Peter and the rest of the disciples stood up and started speaking to the crowd. It is here when Peter starts to preach the gospel. Paul said that the gift of tongue is not to be heard by humans but to God unless translated. In Pentecost there was no need to translate any language. In fact the Holy Spirit allow then to speak in other language that some could understand. However, the bible doesn’t say that the entire population who spoke in tongues spoke in a total compressive language. Also the bible does not say that Cornelius when Peter imposed his hand spoke in a understandable language? I’m curious of this subject and I’m reading through the bible to understand this phenomenon

[@JeffSmith-it4tm]

So God can't just speak to us in a voice we can understand???

[@Jean-jw3tc]

Yeeep u got it

[@robertnieten7259]

Speaking in " tongues" is actually one spiritual language Paul refers to it as the " unknown tongue that " no man knoweth"( 1Cor.14:2). If no man knows this language then is not a native language of this world. Many times the Word will repeat something said and/ or an event three times to: 1) Direct our attention to an important spiritual truth 2) To set a precedent so that the same circumstances need not be repeat in this detail each time it occurs elsewhere in scripture. In Acts ch.2, upon the believers recieving the Holy Spirit and speaking in "tongues", three times the men in the crowd ask how they are hearing the believers speaking in their native tongues. The spiritual trurh is that all of the believers were speaking in one spiritual language and those in the crowd were Hearing what they were saying in their individual native languages. The precedent set is speaking in " tongues" as a sign to unbelievers, the men in the crowd.

[@JeffSmith-it4tm]

That word Unknown was added by translators. Its human speaking only.

[@robertnieten7259]

@@JeffSmith-it4tm Why was the Word " unknown" added by the translators ?

[@JeffSmith-it4tm]

@@robertnieten7259 to deceive.

[@kennethrenquist9414]

Acts 2 was solid. 1 cor 14, was a bit flimsy… maybe some other examples in acts of the baptism of the Holy Spirit

[@jim52536]

Pride Greed and Lust Wars against the Spirit of Christ and are barriers to receive the Gift of Tongues....

[@JeffSmith-it4tm]

2 Timothy 2:16 “But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.”

[@studygodsword5937]

@@JeffSmith-it4tm [Luk 11:13 NKJV] 13 "If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will [your] heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him!"

[@obeyourfatheryah]

Satan is also real. Imagine his motives in the false doctrine of speaking in tongues, rather than the father's loving gift of restoration in understanding the truth. Yeshua said we'd cast out demons, not entertain their gibberish in our hearts and mouths. He also said we would do greater things than he did himself. So we should. Let Yahweh bless you. Be obedient children, and wary of Satan's devices. Believe Yahweh, and obey him, for "If you love me, you shall guard my commands." - Yeshua, John 14:15

[@Bobbychildree]

Mark 16:17 they shall speak with new tongues. Please do not attribute the work of the Holy Spirit to Satan.

[@JussiYlitalo]

Speaking in tongues is a spiritual gift. Unbeliever can’t speak in tongues. What kind of sign and witness of God’s Spirit is speaking a language which you have studied with you own intellect? Why would anyone praise God with known foreign language which others around you don’t understand and then speak it in your own tongue to explain it to the congregation? Speaking of tongues is always heavenly unknown tongue which no man understands. Not even the speaker him/herself. These tongues can be spoken only by the Spirit and only be interpreted through the Spirit. In Acts 2 others heard the interpretation of the tongues and others did not. That is why some people mocked them that they were drunk because tongues sounded like no other known language. Everyone of us believers has prayer language and it is unique for everyone. That’s why it needs and takes faith to speak it.

[@JeffSmith-it4tm]

Actually they can, former Satanist john Ramiez said he spoke in tongues......... For one who prays in another (Human) language that others don't understand (bi-lingual) you edify yourself but not others because they don't understand that other human language.....Pretty easy. but the unlearned like to invent doctrines from the added words not in the original manuscripts and the word unknown was added.

[@JussiYlitalo]

@@JeffSmith-it4tm Yes, there are also demonic tongues. But they are pretty rare. Of course they can be seen in prosperity gospel ”kundalini” manifestations. They are demonic and need to be casted out. Usually people lose control of themselves unlike real tongues which believers can control when they start to speak it and when not. Demonic things take over the believer and drags them to bondage. When I pray in tongues I sometimes get filled with the Holy Spirit and He shows me His love and holiness. That cause usually repentance in me and God gives me a chance to change the course of my walk. That is the power of God which guides us to eternal life. And the tongues are unknown, not any known language. I know personally many believers with a gift of tongues (at least 35 quickly counted) and all of them has tongues which sound like no other human language. All of them live in holiness and in daily repentance. Many of them share the Gospel actively and cast out demons and baptize in water and lay hands on people and they get the Holy Spirit. So I ask you a sincere guestion. How many believers you personally know who speak in a God given spiritual gift with the known human language? Blessings.

[@studygodsword5937]

@@JeffSmith-it4tm [Luk 11:13 NKJV] 13 "If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will [your] heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him!"

[@psalm1tree466]

I honestly think that Psalm 119 ministries is the best apologetics source on the planet. By far. But here I think they are dropping the ball. It can’t be more obvious. There is a kind of tongues when you are speaking to foreigners in the language that they understand, but you never learned. But there is a kind of tongue “that no man understands” but where it is said that you are “speaking unto the Lord.” The Lord. Not foreigners. Not any human. It seems to me that this video is somewhat conflating the two very different kinds of tongues, and is trying to explain away that there is a kind of tongues that has nothing to do with any known human language, but which the Lord understands perfectly, of course. And by the way, as far as I know, speaking in tongues is never called ecstatic. At least not in the Bible. I can speak or sing in tongues, like so very many others, and be perfectly calm and generally am. There are so many theoretical phrases herein - like the way we keep hearing things like “It could be… Might be… Suggestive of… seems unlikely…” And commentaries by this person and that person. Personally, I don’t think there is any commentary needed. Who cares with those people think? I can see what the Bible is clearly saying. It’s real plain. You can speak a language that only the Lord understands. I have experienced this gift myself, as have so very many others. And like so many others, I wasn’t even looking for it, it just happened in a time of prayer. And it gave me a new peace. But you imply that we should not pay attention to experience. I’m sure you don’t totally believe that. After all, what does it mean by being born again if it is not a new experience? I don’t get the feeling that the people in this ministry have the gift of tongues. From the Lord. Where he alone understands. I pray you all get it. It is a gift from the Holy Spirit and of course any gift from him is wonderful. And it is not hard at all to get. Some people have started speaking in tongues, greatly to their surprise, after being baptized, or after having some other close encounter with the Lord. It seems he’s very anxious for us to have that gift. When you speak in tongues that only the Lord understands, you are letting go. You really don’t understand what all the issues are, or the possible outcomes of anything you would ask for. You are therefore leaving things in HIS hands.

[@sharelle9483]

so well explained, I totally agree

[@psalm1tree466]

@@sharelle9483 🙂blessings to you and yours, as I have prayed.

[@JJchildofYAH]

I agree with you! My tongues came upon me suddenly, and it has changed over time. Sometimes I speak words that I am able to look up the meaning, other times I speak words that feel like no known language, and therefore I take these as being for Him alone. Thanks for your comment, it resonated with me and I am not going to watch this video. I didn't get a good feel about it anyway. Which is unusual for me and 119 Ministries as usually I resonate with their message. Shabbat shalom ❤

[@SalemK-ty4ti]

Am I the only one commenting here the truth? There's no debate about it. Speaking in Tongues has been proven scientifically to be meaningless unintelligible speach. It's not a language. Do some research and look at all the unbiased studies have proven and you will see speaking in Tongues is nonsense. It's like an echo chamber of people believing in nonsense. I can't believe people are so easliy fooled. You do know the easiest person to fool in the world is oneself. The reason why people don't understand what people are saying when speaking in tongues is because it's meaningless unintelligible nonsense, in other words it's gibberish.

[@psalm1tree466]

@@JJchildofYAH that’s interesting that you didn’t have a good feeling about that video from the beginning. The same was true for me. I didn’t even wanna listen to it and while I was listening to it I felt very annoyed the whole time. Usually I agree with what this ministry teaches. The other exception would be in their belief that there are currently not people (and I would also say animals) in Heaven. That may have been true about old testament times, but not after the resurrection in my opinion.

[@julielemker2131]

Balaam was a pagan prophet who practiced divination and other magic arts. Then in Numbers 22:28, we learn that “the LORD opened the donkey’s mouth, and she said to Balaam, ‘What have I done to you to make you beat me these three times?’” The donkey was the first to speak in tongues! It is a real language not gibberish!

[@LightSeekers777]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Yah_free]

Wow

[@Yah_free]

Actually god spoke the universe into existence using tongues

[@dmcgwhisper5945]

Hahahaha! No no no no, that donkey said hibberdee gibberdee gobbledee gookerdee ahh haberdee duderee doobee doobee booberee and Balaam understood every word. Yeah that's what happened. Honest.

[@dannysmith9217]

Tongues and Prophecy* sorry the devil in my phone autocorrected me.😂

[@user-me7lg7yr8n]

In that there is no conclusion in why God would give an ability to speak a human language without an interpretation does not dispel that God would give what you refer to as an extatic utterance. In both cases there is edification, the speaker nor the hearer can interpret, and God is glorified. If Paul spoke more than them all, whats the point if he could not interpret? Additionally, in other examples of tongues, Peter and the Italian band. How did they know they recieved the spirit, they spoke in tongues. But no languages were named. The Apostles of John the same thing happened. Spirit filled but no languages named. Could it be that the most unrully member of the body being the tongue coming under submission is then miraculously gifted speech to magnify God. Ultimately the profit Joal spoke and said the last day I will pour out my spirit says the LORD......... If Acts 2 is the fulfillment of this prophecy and by definition this time period is identified as "the last days", how much more would God pour out his spirit in our day in that we are 2000 years closer to the last days. If God is the same yesterday, today, and forever then the promise made that day is available today. While I appreciate many of your videos I would have to say this is a prime example of having a form of Godlyness, in that you and your writers can articulate a point well, but to draw doubt towards the fulfillment of his promise in the last days is a denial of the power there of. The rejection towards the idea that God will perform what he has promised to do is no different then the Jews denying Christ in there day. In the man made understanding, God's promise to them was rejected. I encourage that we deny our human understanding and let God work in our lives. The Jews denied the works of Christ and the Gentiles deny the working of his spirit. History repeats itself. What a pity.

[@rickcampanella4254]

Rightly dividing and dispensation learn the and then you see the differences between what was for the Jews back then because they were still under the law and works. After Jesus died signs and wonders were not necessary because the gospel of grace is now for the church today.

[@AliciaGuitar]

I do not believe the charasmatic babbling i have witnessed to be of the Spirit, however i believe tongues are possible because of an experience when i was younger: I was raised Free Will Baptist. We had missionaries from Uruguay, and we were chatting. They asked my last name, which at the time it was "Goats" (i was embarassed of that). In Spanish one missionary joked to the other that my last name was "Comelatas" ("can-eater"). I put my hands on my hips and said, "Hey! I dont eat cans!!!" 😂😂😂 The missionaries were amazed i understood them. My mom said i must have picked it up on Sesame Street, but i most certainly did not! I just knew... and i KNEW i never heard that before that moment. At first i thought maybe i spoke Spanish in a past life (i was only 6 or 7 years old). I did not know about speaking or interpreting tongues until i was about 20 years old, and that was a bad experience in a radical charasmatic church i was visiting. I am torn about it to this day. I understood way more foreign languages than i should have with no explaination, but in that charasmatic church what i heard was absolute ridiculousness. At first i almost laughed, but then i was sad and disturbed.

[@julielemker2131]

The expression : If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, has given rise to the teaching that there is a difference between a human language and an "angelic" or "heavenly language," so when one speaks in tongues he speaks in a heavenly language. Actually in verse 13:1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. Paul does not say that there is a difference between human language and heavenly language Notice the word If. He is using an extreme hypothetical case to drive a point home. "If I speak in different types of languages, whether heavenly or earthly, and have not love it profits absolutely nothing." Actually, the language that angels speak is Hebrew. Angels do not speak a different language that humans do. It is obvious that speaking in tongues is not a heavenly language if we look at Acts 2. In Acts 2, they spoke with other languages. Was that a heavenly language? Was that a "language of angels" distinct from the language of humans? Not at all. The Jewish audience who came to Jerusalem from various parts of the world were able to understand what the apostles were saying as they spoke with other tongues: This verse does not teach that those who were speaking in tongues are speaking a heavenly language, a real spoken language. Most of what is passed for the gift of tongues today is not what is described in Scripture. In verse 14:2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries. The reason is that when one had the gift of tongues, he does not himself understand what he is saying. To him and to others, it remains a mystery. Paul writes: in spirit he speaks mysteries. The word spirit is not the Holy Spirit. The Greek text does not have the definite article "the." So, he is not speaking of the Holy Spirit but of the human spirit. Some teach that when one speaks in tongues, it is the Holy Spirit who is actually doing the speaking.. But if the Holy Spirit were doing the speaking, it would be impossible to misuse the gift.

[@Unique_Monk]

Amen Why do so many groups create their own biblical teachings 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@ayotundeakanbi7802]

It's sad when we turn the Bible texts to suit our seemingly crystallized beliefs regardless of the explicitness of the texts.

[@studygodsword5937]

@@ayotundeakanbi7802 That is exactly why people assign their own meaning to Corinthians chapters 12-14, rather than seeking God and his wisdom ! James 1:5-7

[@donnajagers4081]

My personal opinion is that someone who does not have this gift should probably not teach on it. It is mentioned in Acts because that is the book that speaks the most about believers being baptized in the Holy Spirit. You see many throughout this book speaking in tongues when baptized in the Holy Spirit and not just at the beginning when many of different languages were present. Corinthians is teaching order of this gift in the assembly. We can see there must have been many with this gift for Paul to teach order and since they were in the assembly together I assume they all spoke the same language so to use the gift to communicate with others of another language must be ruled out. False teaching of this gift hurts those of us who have been given this gift and sometimes prevents us from edifying the body with our gift because of the negative convocation that has been attached to it by believers with no understanding of this gift.

[@christiaanvandyk]

Even though you are passionate about your perspective on the gift of tongues, I believe your views are experience and emotionally based, and not scripturally based.

[@donnajagers4081]

@@christiaanvandyk I can back my belief and experience by scripture with a spiritual understanding of the gift instead of a carnal understanding that those without this gift often have. PD on Rise on Fire Ministries had a recent discussion with a Pastor of an assembly that teaches Torah where the gifts of the Holy Spirit are present which you may find edifying. If you don't believe or understand the gifts Father has given through His Spirit to edify the body of believers you are missing out on a major piece of His wonderful puzzle.

[@christiaanvandyk]

@@donnajagers4081 I understand your point of view. Yeshua will explain and teach us all things in due time. As long as we can keep kindness, patience and love for others, then that's first prize. Shalom

[@christiaanvandyk]

@@allieville9864 Consider Prov 18:13 "If one gives an answer before he hears, it is his folly and shame". It is good to hear out arguments from the other side of one's own perspective. Beware of cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias. I hope you reconsider and listen to what others might say when they have opinions that do not match your own. We are always to remain teachable. Shalom

[@donnajagers4081]

@@allieville9864 Amen

[@Soldierinthegarden]

Good teachings from bad men remain good bad men need good so evil can even excist do not let your right hand know what your left hand is doing the wise will understand .

[@Soldierinthegarden]

My spirit tells me paul was a spy inserted to begin diluting goodness but failed to relize good cant be spoiled

[@Soldierinthegarden]

When the world realizes to get along is when the book writers cause war

[@cyh4031]

What? How do you come up with the idea that a book of the Old Testament (Job), was written after any of the New Testament books? There were youghly 400 years silence between the writing of the last book of the Old Testament , and the first book of the New Testament! I have respected your balanced perspective for quite a few years brothers, but I am really starting to question your scholarship at this point.

[@tanelihamalainen6828]

Testament of job is a different book than that in the old testament..

[@Ben--David]

You are missing the point of 1 Corinthians 14, open your eyes that you may see. It was not gibberish that has no linguistic pattern or human languages. Acts was about human languages, but Corinthians was about Spirit/Angel language which does have a linguistic pattern but is not a human language. FAKE tounges is indeed gibberish that has no linguistic pattern. You need to learn to discern. Test Everything! Praise Yah!

[@gjohnson3202]

Agreed. The gift of tongues given in Acts 2 is not what was being demonstrated at Corinth. In fact, Paul called them carnal and on milk (1cor3:1-3) and that after three times he had visited they had not improved (2cor13:1), and that they had a FILTHY flesh and spirit (2Cor7:1)... So THEY would be the example of what tongues gift is? No!. It is what is not! Note how Paul compares and contrasts in ch14. I cannot attribute what they were doing in 1cor 14 as anything but ecstatic and carnal, and thayers confirms this in the definition in 14:14, to which Paul says is unfruitful and without understanding. Looking also at 1cor:11, they would come to Passover drunk. Not a good example of spiritual maturity by any means. Definitely not the example set out in Acts2.. That assembly was definitely a challenge for Paul!

[@ayotundeakanbi7802]

Good!

[@jim52536]

Also to Receive the Holy Gift of Tongues you must know and Obey the 10 Holy Commandments the best you can...There are 2 types of tongues - Tongues of men and Tongues of angels...Holy is Jesus Christ Yeshua...

[@psalm1tree466]

Well, I got the gift of tongues before I became a Sabbath keeper. Many Sunday Church goers ditto. YHWH is so merciful.

[@jim52536]

@@psalm1tree466 I was trying to keep Sabbath Day when I received tongues which teaches me to Obey His Holy Commandments... Blessings...

[@psalm1tree466]

@@jim52536 well, I do believe that the gift of tongues will help us to become more obedient to the Holy Spirit. That includes keeping his commandments. However, once again, we can’t put limits on the mercies of our heavenly father. There are people speaking in tongues in churches on Sundays and I’ve seen that and was once part of that. We can’t really judge those people, but just pray for them to come into the whole truth.

[@jim52536]

@@psalm1tree466 I was just trying to help those seeking the Gift of Tongues with the Word to help them perceive what may be a barrier for them...Paul Prayed that all would receive the Gift...Sorry if I offended you...

[@psalm1tree466]

@@jim52536 oh, you didn’t offend me at all. Your first post gave the impression that you were trying to help people - definitely. I was just adding my personal opinions. I’m so glad you speak in tongues. Maybe even sing in them. I have prayed for you and yours.

[@yardene3426]

The division over this topic shows where we are at as a faith.

[@only1gumpy941]

It’s not only this topic but any topic that a church embraces that others don’t.

[@cyh4031]

Also, interpretation of tongues is itself listed as a spiritual gift, not a learned ability. I am sorry, but I really believe you are going down the wrong path here.

[@JeffSmith-it4tm]

How many times are you going to post ? Grow up.

[@kavikv.d.hexenholtz3474]

Here's a linguist's take on "tongues" - There is absolutely nothing mysterious about Biblical "tongues" - and there is only one type - when referring to something spoken, they are nothing more than real, rational language(s); usually, but not always, unknown to those listening to them, but always known by the speaker(s) - it’s their native language (in some cases, it is a language the speaker has learned). In contrast, the “tongues” Pentecostal and Charismatic Christians are producing today is an entirely self-created phenomenon. It is non-cognitive non-language utterance; random free vocalization based upon a subset of the existing underlying sounds (called phonemes) of the speaker’s native language, and any other language(s) the speaker may be familiar with or have had contact with. It is, in part, typically characterized by repetitive syllables, plays on sound patterns, alliteration, assonance, and over-simplification of syllable structure. It is also interesting to note that any and all phonological rules (rules governing how sounds are put together in a given language - what is allowed and what is disallowed) governing a speaker's native language, will _also_ govern their tongues-speech. Further, this subset of phonemes mentioned above typically contains only those sounds which are easiest to produce physiologically. Occasionally some speakers will use two or more subsets of phonemes to generate glossolalia, producing what, to them, sounds like two (or more) distinct “tongues languages”, thus claiming to be able to speak in “divers tongues”. There is absolutely _nothing_ that “tongues-speakers” are producing that cannot be explained in relatively simple linguistic terms. Conversely, when it comes to something spoken, there are absolutely _no_ Biblical references to “tongues” that do not refer to, and cannot be explained in light of, real rational language(s), though it may not be the explanation you want to hear, and it may be one which is radically different from what you believe, or were taught. _Nowhere in the Bible is modern tongues-speech advocated or evidenced._ “Praying in the Spirit” does _not_ refer to the words one is saying. Rather, it refers to how one is praying. In the three places it is used (Corinthians, Ephesians, and Jude), there is absolutely zero reference to 'languages' in connection with this phrase. “Praying in the Spirit” should be understood as praying in the power of the Spirit, by the leading of the Spirit, and according to His will. I'm not doubting or questioning the 'tongues experience'; glossolalia as the spiritual tool that it is, can be very powerful and, for many people, the experience is profound. As one commenter put it, “Speaking in tongues distracts the ego/analytical/conscious mind while leaving the subconscious (the heart) wide open to import the divine." Both the spiritual and physical benefits of using this tool are also well documented. Again though, it is important to note that this same statement can be made for virtually _any_ other culture that practices glossolalia. Religious and cultural differences aside, the glossolalia an Evenki Shaman in Siberia, a vodoun priestess in Togo and a Christian tongues-speaker in Alabama are producing are in no way different from each other. They’re all producing their glossolalia in the exact same way; they just have different explanations and beliefs as to why they’re doing it, and where it comes from. It is only in certain Christian denominations where is it construed as something it never was. For many tongues-speakers, a lot of it seems to be about perception. To use an analogy, why is that when people with Schizophrenia say that someone is watching and following them, we tend to think it’s paranoia, but when your mum says it, you go to the police? Same perception and associated claim (i.e. each perceive that someone is watching and following them) The (probable) validity and meaning of the claim hinges and changes on the difference in the physical state and capacity of who is doing the perceiving and claiming. Same as with glossolalia - it’s validity, so to speak, tends to hinge on how it is perceived by the individual from what they are experiencing….or, perhaps even more so, what they were _taught_ to experience. I tend to think it’s a bit of both. ‘Tongues’ (read, *‘languages’* ) - the divine gift, is the God given ability to effortlessly learn to speak and be understood through real-language barriers. It is not xenoglossy, nor is it modern tongues-speech. As a point of note, I’m a Linguist, and let me also add here that I am neither a so-called ‘cessationist’ nor a ‘continuationist’ - I do not identify with either term; in fact, I had never heard the two terms until just late in 2016. As far as I’m concerned, quite frankly, since the Biblical reference of “tongues” is to real, rational languages, obviously “tongues” haven’t “ceased”.

[@SalemK-ty4ti]

There's no debate about it. Speaking in Tongues has been proven scientifically to be meaningless unintelligible speach. It's not a language. Unbiased studies have shown speaking in Tongues is nonsense.

[@psalm1tree466]

@Kavik v.d. Hexenholtz We are told in the Bible, that there’s a kind of tongues that “no man understands.” No man. That means you. Any linguist. That means anyone speaking in any language whatsoever. No man. We are told that the person who is speaking in the tongues which “no man understands, speaks into the Lord.” The Lord. He understands perfectly! It seems to me that you are scared off by something that you don’t really understand. A wonderful gift of the Holy Spirit. I pray you will get this gift instead of trying to cause people not to believe in it. I used to not want the gift of speaking in tongues when I heard about it. It seemed too weird. But it so happened that I got that gift anyway, and it has been a great blessing. May you be blessed likewise. By the way, I would not call myself a Pentecostal. I am a Hebrew roots person who believes in the whole Bible. And the whole Bible includes speaking in a language, which no one understands but the Lord.

[@kavikv.d.hexenholtz3474]

@@psalm1tree466 1Cor. 14:2 is perhaps *the* quintessential verse used by many to “evidence” modern tongues-speech in the Bible. Let’s paraphrase the KJV version of this verse into a more modern English. To do this, you need to get rid of the added “unknown”, use a more accurate translation from the Greek, and a more modern rendering of the archaic “tongue” -Once done, we have something more like this - “He that speaks in a language isn’t speaking to others, but only to God; no one hears [him] with understanding; nevertheless, though he’s praying in the Spirit, he’s speaking mysteries.” The whole passage is talking about real, rational language. Let me use an analogy - If I attend a worship service in “East Haystack”, some remote town in the US out in the middle of nowhere, two things are going to be evident: one; there’s only going to be so many people at that service (i.e. there will be a finite given amount of people there) and two; the chances that anyone speaks anything *but* English is pretty slim to nil. If I start praying aloud in say Lithuanian, there’s no one at that service that’s going to understand a single word I’m saying. Even though I’m speaking a real language, no one _there_ will understand my “tongue”. That does not mean or imply that no one else understands Lithuanian; just no one at _that particular service._ In this sense, therefore, I am speaking _only to God,_ since he understands all languages. To everyone at the service, even though I’m praying in the Spirit (as defined in my original post), to the people listening to me, I’m still speaking “mysteries” - i.e. even though I’m praying as I ought, no one understands me; no one has a clue what I’m saying as no one speaks my language. When one looks at the original Greek, the verb which is usually translated as “understandeth/understands” is actually the verb “to hear” in the sense of understanding what you’re hearing someone say. The verb is *not* “to understand”. That part of the verse is more properly “no one hears [him] with understanding”, i.e. no one listening to him understands what he’s saying. There is _nothing_ in this passage that suggests modern tongues-speech nor is there anything that even _remotely_ suggests that the speaker does not understand what he himself is saying. The Greek bears this out; it is the _listeners_ who do not understand, *not* the speaker - no matter how hard modern tongues-speakers want the speaker to also not understand…….unless the author of the text is a bad grammarian, it just isn’t there.

[@psalm1tree466]

@@kavikv.d.hexenholtz3474 you yourself, quoted, a translation, saying that “no one hears him with understanding,” and that, when he’s praying in the spirit he is “speaking mysteries.” You talk about real, rational language. In what you call real, rational language, people do understand! And they aren’t speaking mysteries, such as that passage of the Bible refers to. Notice that nobody needs an interpreter when through the Holy Spirit they are speaking to people in a foreign language which they have never learned. That would be absurd. The gift of tongues that the Bible says no man understands, though, may require an interpreter, if people want to know what is being said. And by the way, they may not want to know, but they may simply leave it in the hands of the Lord. That is what I always do myself as a rule. I have found from personal experience that we often need the Holy Spirit to help us to see the obvious about what is in Scriptures. OK you’re a linguist. You’re an expert on languages that can be understood in this realm. Great. Good for you. I’m sure your scholarship has been very helpful in various ways. But as the Bible says, we need that no man should teach us, but the Holy Spirit will teach us. I will take him and the plain sense reading of scriptures over the scholars of the world whatever they are, if they disagree with him.

[@kavikv.d.hexenholtz3474]

@@psalm1tree466 _You talk about real, rational language. In what you call real, rational language, people do understand! And they aren’t speaking mysteries, such as that passage of the Bible refers to._ Of course they are - if I’m in a roomful of people who just speak English and I start speaking aloud in Welsh, no one is going to understand a word I’m saying. No one will hear me with any degree of understanding. To these people, I’m speaking mysteries - they have no clue what I’m saying. That in no way, shape or form implies that I have no idea what I’m saying does it? _The gift of tongues that the Bible says no man understands, though, may require an interpreter, if people want to know what is being said._ Yes, Paul calls for an interpreter so that _all_ may benefit; not just the speaker. The interpreter/translator is for the _audience,_ not the speaker; he knows what he’s saying, it’s the audience who doesn’t understand and needs the translator. _But as the Bible says, we need that no man should teach us, but the Holy Spirit will teach us._ Yes, but that also implies that you correctly understand what it is your reading in the scriptures. People tend to take what is written very literally; seldom is it put into historical and cultural context. Paul is addressing real language issues facing a multi-cultural, multi-lingual population in a huge city situated on two major seaports. People seem to forget that.

[@Ben--David]

Tested and FAILED.

[@cyh4031]

If the tongue speaker understood his own speech, he would not need to pray for an interpretation!!! Your logic is very faulty here brothers!

[@JeffSmith-it4tm]

False teachers prophesy false prophesies so Paul said another prophet is to interpret so David is spot on.

[@ayotundeakanbi7802]

Good!

[@waynejarvis370]

Seriously, you are trying to say the accusation of drunkenness speaks more to them speaking a known language to the unbelievers over praying and praising God in an unknown language? Seriously. Obviously it could go either way, but even by natural implication shows the 120 were rejoicing and praising God while speaking in Tongues, known to the hearers or interpreted by God to the hearers. If you interpret this tongue as those men’s languages then this text stands alone among all the other texts in Acts talking about tongues, and in Corinthians. For the gift of Tongues of ministry purposes to a public meeting had to have a gift of interpretation to be legitimate. Seriously your theology is out of its league when put up against the word of God or a true experience of God’s word in a life who accepts and practices speaking in Tongues. It is so clear when the “real truth” of God’s word makes you free from peoples presuppositions to support their own preferred theology.

[@wunsocknoshooz4128]

Speaking in tongues simply means that a disciple could teach in his language yet all who heard it understood despite the language barrier. People take speaking gibberish way too seriously. Wanting to confuse Satan with your words implies a doubt of Yahs protection over you.

[@dannysmith9217]

Shabbat Shalom, I agree. As a linguist I agree that the short choppy garbage 🗑️ is not a heavenly language. Without interpretation AND A KNOWN PROPHET PRESENT to determine whether it is or is NOT OF GOD is a prerequisite for the legitimacy of what's being said. And Shaul (Paul) tells us that this will draw people away from YAH and they will think you YESHUA followers are crazy.

[@Afiajustifiee]

1 Corinthians 14:2.

[@dannysmith9217]

@@Afiajustifiee yes, and we're not supposed to do it in our without an interpreter and prophet present. And if we have that gift we are supposed to pray for the gift of interpretation so we are not speaking into the air without understanding.

[@JeffSmith-it4tm]

@@Afiajustifiee The word....."Unknown" was added by translators

[@SalemK-ty4ti]

Am I the only one commenting here the truth? There's no debate about it. Speaking in Tongues has been proven scientifically to be meaningless unintelligible speach. It's not a language. Do some research and look at all the unbiased studies have proven and you will see speaking in Tongues is nonsense. It's like an echo chamber of people believing in nonsense. I can't believe people are so easliy fooled. You do know the easiest person to fool in the world is oneself. The reason why people don't understand what people are saying when speaking in tongues is because it's meaningless unintelligible nonsense, in other words it's gibberish.

[@dkcchock4451]

over teaching on any topic indicates a disbelief of the topic

[@JeffSmith-it4tm]

Mature believers go deep.

[@waynejarvis370]

The arrogance here believing you know what you are talking about. So let us just agree that Paul and Luke agree on Tongues, then Paul said VERY CLEARLY that you “do not speak to men but to God, for no man understands”. Therefore in Acts 2 it is obvious God gave unbelievers the ability to hear in their language to agree with Paul. You like to hear yourself talk quoting people who are ignorant of Tongues instead of interpretation of the Bible.

[@waynejarvis370]

I have not listened all the way through but…it is apparent that 119 ministries falls critically short of the truth of the 120 in the upper room. Already out of the gate you present your presuppositions upon presuppositions. You quote another person “you choose to be right” and make statements you pretend to be accurate as you add into them scriptures as if you are correctly interpreting them. There are a lot of holes in your “theology”, but my assumption is you have not over the years prayed in Tongues “intelligently”. You cling to whatever goes the way you desire to teach against it. Paul did say if you choose to be ignorant, let them. But you are also responsible for what you teach that misleads other people. Paul, the apostle, spoke of “languages” of men and of angels, and yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, you have “commentaries” saying blah, blah, blah, that he did not actually mean what he said. In acts 2 they obviously, all the 120, or perhaps none actually spoke in Tongues of other men, the men obviously heard in their own languages, as further text in Acts concludes. In no other place, Acts, 8, 10, 19 do we hear anyone speaking in Tongues speaking to a person or group of people in those peoples native languages. If you had ever experienced this truth as the written word declares as opposed to commentators report, you too would understand. In all of these text I mentioned Tongues was a sign of the believer as Jesus stated it would be in Mark 16:17, again please no bologna it is not canon, Jesus said it, it would be a sign of those who believe not to unbelievers, in a personal believers life who would believe. Only prophetically is Tongues a sign to unbelievers as it was in Act 2. So in Acts 2 Tongues as in all other occurrences in Acts, a sign of the believer as receiving the baptism in the Holy Spirit…read your Bible without presuppositions. But also, in Acts 2 being the initial outpouring and prophetic fullfillment at least in part, the 120 speaking in Tongues was also a sign to Unbelievers as God gave them understanding in their own languages. So simple you have to work very, very hard to mess it up. This interpretation flows with all of scriptures on Tongues, which we have a lot of text on Tongues as compared to water baptism. Show me one place, JUST ONCE, where anyone period, baptized in water using the formula Jesus gave in Matthew 28? Just one…oh you cannot yet I assume, myself included, you believe that is the proper way to baptized or immerse in water, for our remission of sins in Jesus name. I believe the Trinity but it is neither discussed like Tongues are. Paul the apostle gave easily 1 whole chapter with 2 prior chapters in part discussing Tongues, not to mention Acts and Jude and Romans, if you have the revelation of the truth about the subject. But without revelation of that truth you still have to admit there are a lot chapters concerning Tongues as oppose to other subjects you deem important. Read your Bible with fresh eyes hungering for God’s truth asking the Spirit of Truth in you if you are born-again of the Spirit, to reveal His baptism and speaking in tongues to you.

[@wushupants]

You guys clearly haven't been to Africa or India -- two of the biggest spiritual warfare hotbeds on earth. As expected, your approach to speaking in tongues is too westernized... in other words, too intellectual, humanistic and not spiritual at all... naturally, just like modern day western society. In Africa or India (to name two) the story is quite different. Typically, Baptists in the west reject the idea of "ecstatic utterances" as the way to speak in tongues, like you all, but my Nigerian friend (worship leader) told me how in Africa even Baptist pastors need to speak in tongues (the "gibberish" way) because if they don't, they won't even last a _year_ in ministry, what with all the voodoo and witchdoctors abounding there. The community I'm surrounded by also understands the importance of speaking in unintelligible utterances and it is **vital** to our survival in this daily spiritual battlefield. The fact that you're teaching people to relax in this is evidence that your have fallen for the devil's trap to keep you in the comfort zone, relying on your own human understanding which in turn means that you pose no threat to him and his devices vis-a-vis spiritual warfare. When you step into spiritual warfare, your intellectual interpretation of scripture means squat. You have to put your boots on and be led by the Spirit, not head knowledge.

[@dmcgwhisper5945]

Speaking in tongues as jibberish is a carnal act and therefore of the devil.

[@jaimeneves3745]

even simpler...it's a load of crap

[@SalemK-ty4ti]

There's zero empirical evidence(AKA GOOD evidence) that the devil exists. But that being said the devil doesn't make any sense. Why would an all powerfull, all knowing , all loving & good god create the devil? I mean this type of god could just eliminate the devil in a split second and save the weak humans, but nope that's not what happens. Instead this god allows the devil to deceive weak people trying to do good and they fail do to the actions of this super powerful being. In other words god wants people to fail so he can have an excuse to torture them for eternity. Using logic and reasoning that is not the actions of a loving and good god that is all powerful to stop the devil. The good news is that there's zero empirical evidence(AKA GOOD evidence) that this god exists. So don't worry, it's just another false man made god and man made religion. Peace.

[@dmcgwhisper5945]

@@jaimeneves3745 😄

[@Bobbychildree]

Mark 16:17, “ they shall speak in new tongues.” Attributing the work of the Holy Spirit to Satan is dangerous to one’s spiritual health.

[@SalemK-ty4ti]

@@Bobbychildree Sorry, you must have meant this for someone else. I go by the fact that every time speaking in tongues has been tested scientifically it’s been demonstrated that it’s just gebberish meaningless unintelligible sounds. Just like there’s no demonstrable evidence(AKA GOOD evidence) that any gods exist there’s no demonstrable evidence that speaking in tongues is a language. Also there’s no good evidence to warrant belief in Satan, spirits or souls either. So I’m not worried about things that don’t exist. What I am worried about is how Christian don’t use critical thinking when it comes to their beliefs. I mean logically a loving god wouldn’t create a Satan to trick weak people into doing bad things which they would not have done if they were not deceived. That would be an evil god. Fortunately you don’t have to worry about that, because using logic and reasoning these gods don’t exist.

[@jamesadams5281]

The author clearly twists 1 Cor 14:2 for he that speaks in an unknown tongue speaks not to man but to God for no man understands him. It does not say no one in the room at the time like is proposed. When it says no man understands and calls it an unknown language. At the time everyone had a common language, Greek. There would be no reason to get up and speak in another known language that requires. interpretation. V4 he that speaks in an unknown tongue edifices himself. So if you speak in the common language of the day you don't edify yourself? It calls these gifts of the spirit. If I go to language school and learn Spanish and interpret someone there is no way that is a gift of the Spirit. I am using my Natural mind to rephrase what was spoken in another language. If natural interpretation is a gift of the Spirit then I could go to Japan, hire a Japanese Budhhist interpreter, and they would be operating a gift of the Spirit. In v 14 if I pray in an unknown tongue my spirit prays but my understanding is untruthful. The spirit is praying. So speaking any human language is your spirit praying? We all need to learn other human languages so we can call it the spirit. The speaker doesn't know. So it must be supernatural. 1 Cor 13:1 shows that it is possible to speak in human and non human languages. If all the languages are of human origin then Paul would not need to address it at all. He would need to just say when you get up speak Greek. The video raises more questions than it answers.

[@JeffSmith-it4tm]

For one who prays in another (Human) language that others don't understand (bi-lingual) you edify yourself but not others because they don't understand that other human language.....Pretty easy. but the unlearned like to invent doctrines from the added words not in the original manuscripts and the word unknown was added.