Speaking With a Uyghur Activist About Xinjiang Abuse

In todays episode I speak to a famous Overseas Uyghur activist who is one of the top sources of information for many people in the English world about what is happening in Xinjiang.
Carl Zha's interview can be found here: • Interview with Uyghur ...
Arslan's Twitter: / arslan_hidayat
Resources:
New video of Arslan's father in law:
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A motive for deliberately instigated unrest: / 1290456155286900737
Economics of anti-China Xinjiang propaganda: www.workers.or...
US Air Strike on Uyhgurs in 2018 - / 1291273852387901440
Information about Adrian Zenz's comments: / 1208837915687706624
Detailed information on Adrian Zenz: chollima.org/w...
Tursunay Ziyawudun's changing story: / 1277704695222603776
Uyghur activist who blocked me is funded by ASPI (military industrial complex): / 1279185687208583168
Population data from Adrian Zenz report doesn't add up:
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While America is sanctioning Xinjiang companies based on assumptions they are involved in atrocities against Muslims, their own companies who have been confirmed to be involved in atrocities against Muslims are winning multi-billion dollar deals: / 1280930981692620801
An example of how stories are suddenly fabricated by ordinary people in the West as well: / 1289523972862668801
Journalist very active in the Xinjiang story searches for only Xinjiang ethnic minorities who agree with his story and tell the rest to F off: / 1288275984811081728
Rushan Abbas admitting to her time in Guantanamo Bay and calling it a nice place: / 1284374928066658305
Some of the problematic Douyin posts mentioned in our chat: / 1182726991675625472
Example of fake missing people: / 1210188839945289728
Example of another Uyghur activist's story changing on me: / 1289233130054803457
4 corners Xinjiang documentary issues: / 1151153694517260288
A thread debunking a lot of the Xinjiang propaganda: / 1184633554661081088
More statistics from government data in Xinjiang: / 1069961917316427779
Where the name East Turkistan came from:
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Chinese culture has been in Xinjiang for a long time: / 1191142249926512640
Number of Mosques in China: / 1187034792560226306
Xinjiang propaganda is recycled failed Tibet propaganda: / 1287196350984130560
Countries that support China's policy in Xinjiang: / 1286235519454674946
More government documents on Xinjiang in this thread: / 1004884261051092993
The World Uyghur Congress talking about their sources and a thread on John Oliver's Xinjiang piece: / 1288064264733827073
A good video debunking John Oliver's piece: • Video
More information about the World Uyghur Congress: thegrayzone.co...
In this thread there are 3 must watch documentaries on the terrorism problem in Xinjiang: / 1260702510572097537
Some of the sources behind the forced labour claims: thegrayzone.co...
Example of HRW NGO not being able to back up their stories when critical questions are asked: / 1286803907989999616
More debunked propaganda against China: / china_megathread_2_deb...
Uyghur speaking up about other Uyghurs being brainwashed into fighting with ISIS: • Uighurs were used by t...
Example of the fake testimony about Iraq: / 1292023871219142657
Document that covers the propaganda against Xinjiang: docs.google.co...
NED funded journalism: / 1291987479340310529

[@Divanks]

I don’t mind some of those Uighurs to criticize Chinese government if they tell the truth, cause no party or government is perfect, what I don’t like is they lie about what’s going on or what happened. I can definitely proof what this guy lied is when I went to the top university in Beijing, my classmate who came from Xin Jiang was admitted almost 100 points lower than han students from other provinces. When you use lies to promote your philosophy, you loose all your grounds.

[@elliotyourarobot]

Lies make your position worse if your opponent is that bad why lie?

[@EcchiRevenge]

Wuerkaixi is also affirmative action student.

[@samliew6610]

Yes, few of us visited Xinjiang few times and could see they were very happy with the support and development by the government. The rest have hidden agenda and lied a lot.

[@joanneszeto7791]

@Not Socrazy Finished watching this video, very informative and I found it much more trust-worthy than this Turkish activist!

[@KelvinHwai]

So true. I too had my college study in Beijing about 15 years ago, and I have Uighur and Tibetan classmates in my class. I even lived with the Tibetan guy in the same dormitory for 4 years. They all admitted with a low National Admission score into the university. What was interesting is, my Tibetan mate told me he could have go to UK or US to have his tertiary education fully funded by foreign governments or through NGOs. I asked him that who could have access to those funding schemes because obviously he is a good student and he chose the school in Beijing. The answer was, everyone. Every and any Tibetan kids who wish to study abroad, there’s a way for them to get fund to cover their studies and living in the West.

[@bobsteve2203]

I don't understand if Chinese government is so evil how could his father-in-law a Uyghur went to the same university with Peng li yuan the wife of Chinese leader? How the main ethnic group Han only allowed one child but Uyghur are allowed two children? Why the Uyghur can enter best universities in China with lower grades than Han?

[@LisaTao]

Actually minorities in China like Uyghurs are allowed to have as many children as they wish, not just two.

[@hkwopczk1]

@@LisaTao it was before,not right now. all ethnic groups should be equal now.its for a better good for the current situation

[@muyin]

Duh, affirmative actions, oh wait..

[@MrDio-ny1uj]

@@LisaTao True, and the Chinese government is allowed to harvest as many organs from uyghurs as possible.

[@MrDio-ny1uj]

Yeah. Uyghurs are allowed to have more children and uyghurs have become main supply for organs harvest in China. Yes, Uighurs are getting universities with lower score and getting no jobs after graduation under systematical oppression. I see the Chinese international students are wasting their money on expensive cars and luxury goods. I also see Uighurs international students finished their studies and are working at NASA, medical doctors, lawyer, nurses and teachers. Chinese can only fool people like you.

[@williamwong4867]

He says that his wife has siblings, but claimed that such policies of allowing ethnic minorities to have more children than Han Chinese were only on paper... lol

[@victorjodias4173]

The Uyhur activist promote East Turkistan for Xinjan in China ask why China keep close eye on his father?

[@-wealuka7367]

Yeah it's laughable man This man is either an idiot who doesn't know what he's doing, or he knows what he's doing and is telling lies

[@yaboiyosef7640]

So that justifies detaining his father for no other reason? You would make for a perfect dictator since you obviously also don't care about freedom of speech

[@heathergreene4935]

@@yaboiyosef7640 was this a rhetorical question?

[@o00o0o0o0o0o]

@@yaboiyosef7640 ah yes I imagine ISIS phonecalls are never monitored in the United States. If ISIS had killed as many people in America as ETIM killed in China the last 20+ years, I'm sure ISIS affiliated phone calls in and out of the US would be able to communicate freely still, even when you're as big of an ETIM spokesperson as Arslan is.... (This is sarcasm btw, I don't agree with you)

[@victorjodias4173]

Scoop poo? How did you know China detain his father for no reason? Anyone in the US commit terrorist act their immediate family will closely monitor by all US security agency.

[@shuangbiaogou437]

a turkish activitist who fights for human rights of Chinese while ignoring human right crisis in turkey. isnt it so ironic?

[@yuyan3250]

ShuangBiao Gou And he got an Australia passport

[@MAziz-xd6cp]

Daniel Dumbrill is a high ranked fifty cents party member that means he is under the CCP’s Central Propaganda Department’s payroll, just like many western losers spread CCP (China Communist Party) lies around the world, living prospers but conscienceless life. On the other hand Arslan is an ignorant, narrow minded, self-centered, fame hungry bustard, he is not born nor grown up in Uyghur land so he is far from qualify for represent Uyghur people giving such interview he is not a “famous Overseas Uyghur activist”, this label is made up by Daniel Dumbrill and of course Arslan eager to take it, this is a perfect match about one is wants to create perfect CCP’s propaganda the other one is wants to be fames whatever it takes. Arslan is never a “famous Overseas Uyghur activist” among overseas Uyghur community or political group, he represents himself. In this CCP mouthpiece show, Daniel Dumbrill used treacherous fishing strategy to dig all the symptoms of a religious and racism fanatic personality of Arslan and reluctantly generalized one person personality to entre Uyghur people, in the result Daniel Dumbrill effectively spread the CCP propaganda that never able to achieve by China’s official mouthpiece propaganda machine. It is a 21st century and there are millions of Uyghur and other people in the concentration camp with high tech equipment that Hitler never dreamed of back then, Nazi and CCP have one similarity is cruel, ruthless, tight internal camp operation and glamorized propaganda approach, but CCP has more advantage propaganda machine than Nazi, such as mouthpiece like CGTN and thousands of Daniel Dumbrill.

[@rogerfaint499]

@@MAziz-xd6cp Do you really think that we'd believe a CIA paid shill like you?

[@mikeshinoda4918]

THIS. And a bunch of West politicians never been to China are fighting for HuMaN riGhTs and FrEeDom of HK and TW while they don't even know where they are on the map. Ignorant white kids want to be like god. Don't bother.

[@ahnonime9763]

And he really want every country in the world to punish CCP officers instead of the officials in US/India or any other countries.

[@Tommah1000]

The guy's opening positions is to have Xinjiang secede from China, and calling it East Turkistan. I am going to try that some day. Going to my boss and telling him that I am going to take his job and name his kids after me, and then bitch about getting fired.

[@ChrisJu3]

LOL, touche!

[@lorsheckmolseh3345]

Xinjiang is a part of China since around 200 B.C. - with interruption of several months by WW1. There never has been a real nation of East-Turkmenistan, besides the hallucinations of some Taliban, that better should stay in the US-Shangri la Afghanistan, where they are CIA-supported by cash and weapons. The USA's interest for "bringing democracy" surely has nothing to do with the masses of oil, gas and rare metals under the mountains of Xinjiang. This all is ridiculous: the US killed and made even more millions of Muslims homeless refugees, hates Muslims, hates China, but loves Chinese Muslims. In Xinjiang there are 28000 mosques (China ain't an Islamic Nation), in the whole USA not 3000.

[@sslk107]

HAHAHAHAHAHA~~ good one

[@waikong7073]

I want to move to Turkey, take all my Chinese friends and family; grab a chunk of the country and call it West China!

[@bar.kar.5770]

@@waikong7073 don't be a silly so you think that those people in there immigrated from Turkey

[@Gi-Home]

Excellent interview, very strange listening to this silly young man. I lived in Xinjiang and have family there. The Uighars are doing extremely well and it is clear that your guest is a sucker for fake stories. Would have been good to mention that the terrorists killed mostly Uighars and hence the extremist are despised by most Uighars. Would also have been good to mention that although security is tight the police have a significant Uighar demographic. The Xinjiang police stations I registered in were managed by Uighars. Virtually all of my nieces have moved to the Eastern parts of China for university and none have returned to Xinjiang. The same case applies to the Uighar youth they mostly leave for adventure and excitement of China's eastern cities. There is a bit of a generation gap, 10 years ago the young dressed in traditional garb more or less, today they are thoroughly modern, they are a very good looking people. Your guest is simply a naive racist who despises Chinese people, shame on him. I felt sad and did have pity on him, he seemed to lack critical thinking skills and in the end I felt that he was intellectually challenged.

[@dawang8825]

Thanks for pointing out the truth.

[@LivingLonger]

the problem lies with the islamic books. *why muslim god (Allah) allow muslims to deceive (taqiya) non-muslim and denial of the truth when non-muslim questions them based on islamic books (quran and hadith)?* _prophet muhammad said 'to bring peace'.._ . [Quran 2:225] Allah does *not impose blame upon you for what is unintentional in your oaths,* but He imposes blame upon you for what your hearts have earned. And Allah is Forgiving and Forbearing. quran.com/2/225 . . [Jami` at-Tirmidhi: 1939] 27 Chapters on Righteousness And Maintaining Good Relations With Relatives. (26)Chapter: What Has Been Related About Rectifying Manners. Asma bint Yazid narrated that the Messenger of Allah said: "it is not lawful to lie except in three cases: Something the man tells his wife to please her, to lie during war, and *to lie in order to bring peace between the people."* Grade : Sahih (Darussalam) Reference : Jami` at-Tirmidhi 1939 In-book reference : Book 27, Hadith 45 English translation : Vol. 4, Book 1, Hadith 1939 sunnah.com/tirmidhi/27/45

[@LivingLonger]

*when islam is weak muslims brag about peace.* _when islam is superior they will subjugate the disbelievers and no peace to disbelievers?.._ . [Quran 47:35] Sahih International: So *do not weaken and call for peace while you are superior;* and Allah is with you and will never deprive you of [the reward of] your deeds. quran.com/47/35 . . [47.32-35 Kathir - Ibn Al Kathir] *..He also prohibits them from apostasy,* because that would result in the nullification of their deeds. Thus He says, (and do not invalidate your deeds.) meaning, by apostasy. Thus, Allah says after this, (Verily, those who disbelieved and obstructed others from the path of Allah and then died as disbelievers -- never will Allah forgive them.) This is similar to His saying, (Verily, Allah does not forgive joining partners with Him in worship, but He forgives except that to whom He wills.) (4:48) Allah then addresses His believing servants by saying, (So do not lose heart) meaning, *do not be weak concerning the enemies. (and beg for peace) meaning, compromise, peace, and ending the fighting between you and the disbelievers while you are in a position of power, both in great numbers and preparations.* _Thus, Allah says, (So do not lose heart and beg for peace while you are superior.) meaning, in the condition of your superiority over your enemy._ _If, on the other hand, the disbelievers are considered more powerful and numerous than the Muslims, then the Imam (general commander) may decide to hold a treaty if he judges that it entails a benefit for the Muslims._ _This is like what Allah's Messenger did when the disbelievers obstructed him from entering Makkah and offered him treaty in which all fighting would stop between them for ten years._ Consequently, he agreed to that. Allah then says: (And Allah is with you) This contains the good news of victory and triumph over the enemies. (and He will never deprive you of (the reward of) your deeds.) meaning, Allah will never invalidate your deeds, nullify them, or deprive you of them, but rather He will give you your rewards complete, without any reduction.'' And Allah knows best. quranx.com/Tafsir/Kathir/47.35

[@LivingLonger]

_"Islam is not a religion of peace. Islam is a religion of war, and most Muslims don't understand the true nature of Islam."_ *- Mosab Hassan Yousef, Son of Hamas, Palestine*

[@LivingLonger]

_"Hamas cannot make peace with the Israelis. That is against what their God tells them. It is impossible to make peace with infidels, only a ceasefire."_ *- Mosab Hassan Yousef*

[@SJ-zv3gq]

Daniel, you outshine 99.9% so called “journalist” !!!!! I think most of us will find it a bit difficult to watch this video but we can see you tried so hard to be respectful and be neutral despite of his baseless ( most ) “news “ You absolutely nailed this interview especially toward the end You are a true global citizen who tries to bring out the truth for us

[@MAziz-xd6cp]

Daniel Dumbrill is a high ranked fifty cents party member that means he is under the CCP’s Central Propaganda Department’s payroll, just like many western losers spread CCP (China Communist Party) lies around the world, living prospers but conscienceless life. On the other hand Arslan is an ignorant, narrow minded, self-centered, fame hungry bustard, he is not born nor grown up in Uyghur land so he is far from qualify for represent Uyghur people giving such interview he is not a “famous Overseas Uyghur activist”, this label is made up by Daniel Dumbrill and of course Arslan eager to take it, this is a perfect match about one is wants to create perfect CCP’s propaganda the other one is wants to be fames whatever it takes. Arslan is never a “famous Overseas Uyghur activist” among overseas Uyghur community or political group, he represents himself. In this CCP mouthpiece show, Daniel Dumbrill used treacherous fishing strategy to dig all the symptoms of a religious and racism fanatic personality of Arslan and reluctantly generalized one person personality to entre Uyghur people, in the result Daniel Dumbrill effectively spread the CCP propaganda that never able to achieve by China’s official mouthpiece propaganda machine. It is a 21st century and there are millions of Uyghur and other people in the concentration camp with high tech equipment that Hitler never dreamed of back then, Nazi and CCP have one similarity is cruel, ruthless, tight internal camp operation and glamorized propaganda approach, but CCP has more advantage propaganda machine than Nazi, such as mouthpiece like CGTN and thousands of Daniel Dumbrill.

[@samsun01]

His 'arguments' are not convincing enough. We're trying VERY HARD to be open minded, trust me. But, his arguments are triggering our "spidy sense" a lot. Also, using Guangzhou as an example, all school children learn Mandarin at school but they are free to speak Cantonese after school, in their homes. Guangzhou people had the same grievances about having their "culture" wiped out. It's not exclusive just to Xinjiang. But I can say Guangzhou 'culture' is still alive and well because the "government" isn't systemically destroying cultures. It's just not how China operates, unless you view everything with a Western lenses and you project your Western biases and assumptions onto the Chinese.

[@ahnonime9763]

@@MAziz-xd6cp Why repeating this under every comments? I call such behavior either bribed, either religious maniac.

[@vivianwong754]

@@ahnonime9763 yeah, i second you. and i tend to think it's bribed as suggested in his own comment

[@yuwu5995]

@@MAziz-xd6cp U.S ROBOT?

[@memiekwok9272]

I changed my mind as I listen more , this guy is not mad, he's evil .

[@mangosorbet768]

he says having multiple wives is democratic but two adults having sexual relationship before marriage is not democratic. Lol funniest thing he says is Donny cares about human rights.

[@DeadstockDownsouth]

??? he said its completely aloud 100% what are you talking about?

[@ackara7]

I really appreciate that this young man has agreed to be interviewed on Daniel's show to discuss this complicated issue, but I can't help noticing that he seemed to base a lot of things on rumors, hysteria, innuendo, propaganda and just things that defy common sense. They're all very detrimental to his cause & the well-being of his Uyghur people who he's trying to help. I really hope Daniel can follow up on this story or somehow pull some diplomatic strings to host him to tour the Uyghur province in 2020 and get the real sense of what the real situation is. I'm a Cambodian-American and a refugee who grew up in the US for 40 years, and I used to think that events leading to our Civil War and the Khmer Rouge were b/c mainly due to Pol Pot's evil wrath, and Cambodia was never in any US history book that I read in school. However, as I gotten older, I began to realize what backdoor's and diplomatic wranglings & secret military bombing campaigns that were inflicted on Cambodia by Henry Kissinger's policy, which created Pol Pot's radicalization and of course lead to the deaths and carnage of nearly 2.5 million Cambodian people. More bombs were dropped on Cambodia and Laos than WWI & WWII combined, and we weren't involved in the war in Vietnam vs America, much like the unannounced wars in Yemen, Syria and Libya. As the result, Cambodia was bombed into the stone age, and was set back about 50 to 100 years, and I'm not basing this on pure speculation. I actually returned back to Cambodia to teach and worked as the Head of the English Department at a private school and university there for 4 years. I didn't base my findings and realization on pure speculation, rumors and unsubstantiated evidence of the truth. They were all firsthand and personal eyewitness accounts of the conflict, and yes, I was born straight into the "Killing Field" from 1975 to 1979 until we escaped to an UNESCO camp in bordering Thailand. My point is for the young Uyghur activist, and I do appreciate his passion to help his people; however, please get your facts straight first before you put all these headlines, stories and rumors out because they might end up hurting your people and your cause 10 times worse than your true intent of helping the Uyghurs. Politics and propaganda are such dirty tactics that true activists should be very mindful of. I highly urge all future activists who are true to their causes to get your facts straight first before you put things out there or you're nothing more than a paid shill or perceived as one. Thank you both for a remarkable insight into this complicated issue.

[@gaodc9937]

Your opinion is the same as mine, from a Chinese working in Cambodia

[@gaodc9937]

Cambodia is a victim of geopolitics

[@hannoshovan5873]

He just want to set up EastTurckeytan country. This is why he lie.

[@jimzeng5770]

@On the Go Lifestyle. You wrong my friend. He's a not Uyghur trying to help Uyghyr. He is an east Turk, who is doing things to destabilize a region in China where multiple ethnic groups coexisted for centuries. He is a separatist.

[@nanjinglover9920]

Thanks for sharing your experience!

[@brianleung8912]

How to discredit yourself in 3 words... "Radio free Asia".

[@henrikadewell7711]

Hahaha should be called racist asia free

[@serpentzachary1340]

RFA is as legit as NTD(A Falun Gong founded network).

[@garfield2742]

@@serpentzachary1340 i thought its a CIA media, mostly for defame indochina gov.

[@carlitosignacio5679]

@@serpentzachary1340 it’s not lol

[@murraywu6908]

Never heard of this name, what is it?

[@jamesfullwood7788]

I'm a professor at Shanghai Jiao Tong University (a top 5 five university in China), and I can say without a doubt that Uyughurs get preferential treatment with respect to admissions at my university.

[@MarStoryTime]

You don’t have to convince this audience. We know this ‘activist’ is a liar. Just let them talk and their lies will come out.

[@samliew6610]

Yes, my colleagues in China used to tell us that. They, the minorities, have many special treatments.

[@jenniferlee4096]

As a second generation Chinese overseas, when our parents were in university, for example, my father studied at the Nanking University in the 1980s and they had 新疆班 which means Xinjiang class. It consisted of Uyghur students from Xinjiang who have been admitted with lower scores compared to other ethnicities, especially Han, and they are also given special and privileged care and access by the university. This is due to the fact that Uyghurs often have a lack of opportunities in Xinjiang, which is why they are actually privileged by the government, not oppressed. Now be aware that many universities in China had that, it was not just the Nanking university, and that was even in the 80’s. So when some people say China has been oppressing Uyghurs for decades, me: ???

[@acheable]

James Fullwood , you have forgotten to mention that the affirmative action policy have helped Uyughurs to improve their lives and avoid racial tensions. This is a unique bold policy by China which UN should explore. It is the best way to correct imbalances. If Uyughurs deserve to be educated you lower the admission grades. If you find Uyughurs difficult to be Doctors or be of other professions due to poverty you provide them all the finance to succeed. Eventually it’s Uyughurs best interest to administer Xinjiang when all the disparities are addressed.

[@klarkewang]

@love n sweet2008 man, I think you are right. It is not about pro or not. It is a fact......Every Chinese knew... Minority has some special treatment. BTW, I am not against Vietnamese at all. I used to live in California and my host is Chinese Vietnamese. His wife is full Vietnamese. How was he ended up in US? He told me back in 80s sth, there was a strong anti Chinese movement in Vietnam and his family was one of the refugee.

[@chriswang6180]

While I appreciate voices from the other side, I do not appreciate lies from the other side.

[@kevingarnett2793]

Couldn’t agree more

[@genghissu1185]

I agree Chris but he is not even from the otherside of the argument he is an Arab and not a Uighur his features are no way of any of the different Uighur minority races or tribes.

[@revolution475]

His convictions are based on anecdotal evidence; very dangerous I'd say. It seems what spurs him on is being unable to connect with his father-in-law, as opposed to a deep concern for the Uyghurs and the rest of the people in Xinjiang.

[@danblumel]

Agreed, so many CCP lies.

[@joy-faith1287]

what you try to imply is that any voice from an opposite party is a lie, to eliminate lie is to just allow one voice. when there is only one voice, the chance to tell lie is multiplied.

[@longchen9382]

I have Uyghur friends, they entre universities with a far less credits than Han students which means way easier to get into top universities in China. Secondly, Uyghurs mostly have siblings while the rest of their Han peers are the single child at home. Thirdly, yes, the re-education camp exists, but you will find it is far more human right friendly to help people to get skills to blend in the society than booming them like the US been doing. Next, when my Uyghur friend is having dinner with us, we go for Uyghur food which is all over the whole of China not only in Xinjiang. We go for Uyghur food out of respect to my friends' beliefs. China build up the best security check system in the world to perfect its citizens' very first human rights which is survival. I don't mind giving up a little freedom for better safety. I don't need to be worried about personal safety in China.

[@fanguoku]

Charming Princess it’s a public policy .

[@brisatsai9001]

@Charming Princess if you stand in a suspicious position, then you would always find perspectives that against the truth from all aspects. if there is no policy support for the minority people in china, other country may blame china don't provide human rights to those minorities. but when there are policies to benefit the minority people, you say " victim card". obviously, that means, no matter what china does, there are always criticizing from people who know nothing about china or who has never been to china in person. there are a lot of policies and regulations can bring the minority people benefits, and that is what makes china a peace and powerful country, make us work together. as long as you would like to find more information yourself while not the news or report from the western media.

[@daksan2016]

@Charming Princess It is a common knowledge. Every Chinese know it that minority has many special rights that Han does not have. BTW, you can see Daniel's latest video that he figure out this guy is a liar that sponsored by cia

[@daksan2016]

@Charming Princess Are u american? let me give u a example. What this guy said is just like I told u America does not have election, election is just a fake policy. And proof is I live in US right now or I have a friend/family in US right now. This guy is so ridiculous

[@太阳普照大地]

@Charming Princess 录取分数 ，高考移民 和 很多现象

[@Faye_Liu]

This guy seemed to have contradicting ideas, he wants a moderate secular society for the Uyghurs where people can live the way they choose but at the same time finding all sort of excuses for some of these traditional practices that are simply at odds with China's modern society, Xinjiang is probably the most secular and modern Muslim society there is unlike some other Muslim countries such as Saudi Arabia where women were only just allowed to drive. I believe a modern secular society is better for the Uyghurs, after all Xinjiang is part of modern China where many ethnicities coexist, some compromises will have to be made in order to create a stable and harmonious society for everyone. There has been serious problems with extremism among the Uyghur population, something has to be done to tackle it, we can argue if there could have been a better way, but I am in no doubt the West's solutions would involve way more deaths. Daniel asked many good questions and presented many good arguments, well done!

[@multilateralismforworldpea9223]

Many international renown economists, journalists, activists, intellectuals including John Ross, Martin Jacques, Jenny Clegg, Vijay Prashad, Yury Tavrovsky, Yag Hanyi, Max Blumenthal, etc organised a "No Cold War" campaign to urge the U.S. government to stop it’s cold war against China. Watch "No to Cold War Live Stream" Jul. 25,2020. kzbin.info/www/bejne/kKvCpmCbn6qWo7M I think they have a twitter hashtag #nocoldwar campaign going on. Help to support their efforts for a peaceful world.

[@MarStoryTime]

This guy is an East Turkestan separatist. So China is just supposed to allow separatist activity? Anyone remember the American Civil War from history class?

[@yiyang6559]

Not only China's modern society. What they conceive in mind is definitely also at odds with modern society in general, including the western world.

[@Drownedinblood]

You have to see his viewpoint though. He sees his version of Islam, which seems fundamentalist from what I've heard, as intertwined with Uyghurs and inseparable. If you watch his interview with Carl zha he makes that pretty clear when he talks about "erasing uyghurness" but really meaning Islamic beliefs and practices. He only talks about secular democratic state because those are buzzwords that play well to western audiences. As you noticed once you got into the details it's not quite that.

[@dejavu1377]

@@MarStoryTime I don't bother to watch the video because I know he just rehash all the CIA "human rights" talking points.

[@wendiqiu3225]

East Turkistan never existed. Xinjiang was a part of the Chinese empire since Tang Dynasty, separated from China for centuries, then reunited with China during the Qing dynasty, hence the name “Xinjiang”, meaning “old territory regained” 舊疆新歸

[@albertma81]

Early as Han Dynasty actually

[@佛地魔王蘇貞昌]

And the dominant religion was Buddhism. There are tons of Buddhism relics in Xinjiang, which show how BRUTAL the religion conversion was!

[@jlai036]

That's the problem. The younger generation who become activist and extremist never understand the reason and history but just cause divide and chao. Xinjiang not East Turkistan.

[@dding01]

@Akin Khoo yeah only for a few years. East Turkistan region historically has mostly been anarchy. Barren land mostly, good, oasis land is always controlled by different empires.

[@ultramax8032]

@@albertma81 Chinese people has been governing Xinjiang before Jesus was even born, no idea why any Muslim even dares to claim the land belongs to Muslim originally.

[@jameszhang2019]

I watched some vlogs on KZbin of a local Uyghur girl in Xinjiang and found almost all the Xinjiang families she visited have more than 2 children. The girl has 3 siblings.

[@oneday2261]

For Uyghurs who live in cities, they can only have two child. For Uyghurs who lives in far edges, villages, they can have three kids. The family planning policy is not ONE child for every chinese han as well. There are room for expansion based on city or village residents. For Uyghurs, it is one more child than Han. 我是维吾尔族，土生土长新疆

[@大象大头]

The one-child policy is only for Communists and people working in government departments.

[@鑫火-f7u]

@@oneday2261 看地方，我江西的，以前无论是城市还是乡下，生两个就会罚钱。我有个妹妹，95年，罚了一千多，基本上农村都是偷偷生，然后被发现罚钱。城里就没法，基本上都是一个。我不知道新疆是不是也会超生罚钱。

[@鑫火-f7u]

@@oneday2261 我们这好多父辈人因为计划生育超生后被强制节育，带环，结扎。

[@EH-pe2sv]

@@大象大头 that's not the truth. Not at all. it applies to all hans people...except the rich ones...I have several classmates who each of them has 4 siblings just because their families are so so so rich, all the rest, only one kid..it was back in 80/90s.

[@crystalball020]

This guy said he won't be satisfied with uyghurs in xinjiang living normally like han, he wants full independence and establish theocratic Islamic country with far less freedom and human rights than China allows, pretty ironic he is a human right activist.

[@stefanosong9314]

He did not mention the 10m non Islamic Chinese in Xinjiang guess what will.he do to them.

[@cuttlefishpups2608]

I think people must have little idea that Xinjiang used to be a Buddhist region. 🤦‍♀️

[@Drownedinblood]

@@stefanosong9314 he already implied ethnic genocide in Carl zha's interview. He said if the pla leave, the han will leave. The implication is that it wont be safe for han people or anyone that isnt approved to live there anymore. He also said that han will be allowed to live there if they can trace their bloodline to xinjiang. Certainly sounds a ok to me /s

[@pandacalvin9561]

If that s really a problem don't go to China. Stay where they were.

[@monadi1000]

.. it's call Khilafah movement ..

[@arissa4407]

I like Daniel’s approach. Giving the opposite opinion a chance to express, being extremely respectful and let him contradict his own idea. His ideal version of independent country simply doesn’t exist in this world. Democratic, religious freedom and one main religion doesn’t seem so compatible. Just take a look at the fight on abortion law in the most democratic and free country, USA. I would advice having another person, respectfully and knowledgeable, to speak for the other side and fact check

[@georgexu5333]

Agreed. The more he talks, the more mistakes he will make, especially when he is lying.

[@dylanthomas3072]

>Democratic, religious freedom, but with one main religion doesn't exist. Most of Europe would like to disagree. The better part of the continent, especially on the mediterranean, is democratic, has religious freedom, but is overwhelmingly catholic. Calling the US the most democratic and free country is a dubious claim too

[@patrickpen2265]

He accused China of culling but stammered when confronted that Uighurs were allowed 2 children..

[@MarStoryTime]

Daniel has so much restraint, it’s unreal. Very well-composed interviewer.

[@KelvinLKY]

Dylan Thomas Those religions do not have the motives to push an unfair and harsh punishing laws. In a democratic country where Muslim is the majority, there will be politicians that play the religion game to gather the votes. Even many politicians that against the push to go back to the harsh laws become silence because this is about their religion and they do not want to be branded as a heresy.

[@ryanchiang5370]

This guy's ignorance about Chinese affirmative action policies is astonishing.

[@grandwonder5858]

It's not ignorance, it's blatant lying!

[@docrobert8099]

I personally visited XinJiang twice. once in 2011 and once in 2019. First trip I went to northern XinJiang to see Kanas Lake in Burqin county (布尔津县), Altay region（阿勒泰地区）. On the way there we stayed in Urumchi. Locals said they had two major riots in ten years, the first one happened in 1992 and the second one happened in 2009, which is a major one. About two hundred Han people were killed and many government buildings were torched. On the way to Kansas Lake I met many locals and talked to them (mostly Uyghur), To me, Uyghurs are very nice people and they condemn the terrorist as much as we do because riots ruined their tourism business. They invite me to their house and treated us with amazing local cheese and milk tea. their children were taken good care by government, First, they have never been subjected to the One-Child policy. they can have as many child as they want. Second, except for government employees, all Uyghur children enjoy 12-year free education(Han people only have 9-year). Third, government provides free food and transportation for almost 80% of the countryside Uyghur students(They rest 20% are people who owns business or had family members work for government). Fourth, all Uyghur students have their class in both Mandarin and Uyghur language(science and maths are in Mandarin ). and I'M 100% SURE they do enjoy lower admission points in college acceptance. Because in my medical school in Si Chuan, I had 4 class mates are Uyghurs and their SAT points needed for entrance are 20 points lower than ours, which in fact caused some issues throughout the years, because Han people feel it was unfair. Even back then I feel unfair. gotta go for work, to be continued

[@MordantMagic]

Affirmative action programs are only unfair if you look at them in the small picture on an individual level vs the level of a social system. They exist to counter a larger scale unfairness of a group of people that have been in one way or another disenfranchized, undereducated, and impoverished so that they can create a foundation for a more equitable system. No matter how you feel about China or this or that other policy I think all countries should seek to learn from the positive aspects of their affirmative action programs for minorities.

[@RedNeckRed647]

The child policy has changed in the past few years apparently. Now Uighurs are limited to two children in urban environments and three in rural, the same as other ethnicities. I don’t doubt they are chaffing a bit at this, especially religious extremists who tend to view women as mainly breeders.

[@stuartlumi6210]

are you the Doc. Robert fighted in Wuhan against the virus? Solute!

[@alone-tt8dg6ic6f]

Muslim, Christian and any religion by nature is institutional. They brain washed the human generation from the birth, or forcibly converted them in the name of God. Only Science and scientific knowledge can free the human child and help the human understand the society, nature, relations of our existence in the universe. Modern education system can only help the generation of human child to cope with the socio-political realm of human understanding. No religion is allowed to control any modern school to preach their own agenda. Religions are now the tools of the 1% corporates of the world to make people poor in both economically and intellectually. They kill each other through out the ages as per the wish of the upper layers of the Society. Only Socialist country can control the Institutional menace of the world and preserve the holiness of Religious philosophy .

[@fancloud3638]

I agree with you mostly but have to correct that the places you visited are kazakhs area in fact. If you stay there for longer time you will find that there are four majority peoples（uygur,Kazakh, Hui, Han#the first three are muslims) in Xinjiang and their relationship is so confusing,however,the uygur hate others people and the kazakh hate uyghur too. A Xinjiang belongs to Uyghur is just their propaganda. I am certainly convinced that half the Xinjiang people do not want to live in a independent state.

[@CDTsuiPo]

This “East Turkestan” did not even know that Turkis and Uyghurs did not have the same ancestry.

[@谢坚-y4h]

It seems that they fought each other in history

[@irritatedanglosaxon1705]

It 's bcoz the name of their Gen Turkcic and Turkish nearly similar

[@CDTsuiPo]

Even if everything is the same as this "terrorist" said, the Uyghurs are not the only ethnic group living in Xinjiang. They are farmers, most of whom are distributed in southern Xinjiang. For a long time, the Uyghurs believed in Buddhism. Before the liberation of Xinjiang, these people had been in the middle and lower classes of society. In northern Xinjiang, there are even more ethnic groups living in there, Han, Kazakh, Hui, Mongolian, Kirgiz, Xibe, Tajik, Uzbek, Manchu, Daur, Tatar... Again, Xinjiang is not Uyghur's Xinjiang, and it has never been. .

[@AlfredBZ-le8ol]

我记得多年前某个地方的回族人都在他们的社区打横幅乱认祖宗呢，大意好像是中东某个国家那边出了个什么灾害或是战争，横幅上写着我们作为同一条血脉对你们表示同情和支持之类的。

[@CDTsuiPo]

@@AlfredBZ-le8ol 这到无所谓，但是请不要说这块地也是“阿拉伯”兄弟的祖传之地就好。同样适用于各种独

[@kahoncu3539]

Actually im a Turk nation living in China...... I have the really point for the real Xinjiang for China... we are singing and dancing... we are safe... we are peace life and mixed culture. Uyghur, Kazak, Tajik, Uzbek, we all brother.... as far we are happy in China for 2021

[@jeckdj3984]

When you come back to Turkey l will show you the truth.

[@jeckdj3984]

Hey man. Even l can't say you as a Turk Type on KZbin (Ata jurt kazahk human rights) on that channel many Kazakh asking to give back their relatives from China.

[@MegaFarah78]

@@jeckdj3984 brother it got debunked so call genocide's

[@kahoncu3539]

@@jeckdj3984 Heyy.. brother, 3years ago im the one to agree that all the Turk nation peoples should find their own nation and culture... and at that time i really can understand, China did a lof stupid fault.... But now 2021... its changed my point and also with 24 million Uyghur... kazak peoples... Becuz now many people value national culture and religion... and even in China now... everyone know How to dance Uyghur dance and like to hear music from Xinjiang... or Turkey... its the reason.. and Theres also more stage for our dance way.... and show all the world... maybe China stupid lock the net... u guys cant to see... But Theres a lot a lot... best Turk dance... herrrrre.. in China....

[@usa19114]

Your name is Alfredo

[@Vinyay2130]

1. The advocation of an "Eastern Turkestan" state just shows his ignorance about the religious, demographic history of the region, and a betrayal of his own people; or he just deliberately lives in a parallel universe. Han, Uyghur, Kazakh, Hui, Mongol, Tujik, Kirgiz, etc., at least 47 ethnics, are natives of the region; if that consists of legitimacy, then Han has a longer history of settlement than old Uyghur, who migrated from Mongolia plateau fleeing the expansion of Turkic Khanate, defeated Turkic with Tang Dynasty alliance, then converted to Islam from Buddhism under the influence from Persia. Within Uyghurs there are diverse cultural traditions in clothing, food, brewery and customs, way more than one form of a religion. It's never a land of one religion, one people. 2. The vision about a "free democratic secular state" or "true Islam being preached freely" only contradicts itself. Maintaining a secular state requires a secular government who has actual power to contain religious influence on secular affairs, yet he has some religious judge and police to convict somebody on personal affairs. He declares “freedom of religion” where “true” Islam is preached, that means there need to be some standard/authority to decide what is true and what is false, isn’t this just monopoly? Or if anybody can declare being true about Islam in such “freedom of religion”, then can Sinitic Islam, or CPC version, has a place? Islam exists in China for 1300+yrs and still flourishes fine; the dynamic between religion and secular/native power shapes the Sinitic Islam, contributing to the Chinese and Islamic diversity. But he has decided this is false or fake and blame the growth of radical thoughts on it, as if he were an authority. On the other hand, radical ideology spreads just in the name of freedom despite CPC’s tight grasp, that’s why Xinjiang had unrest earlier; does he want to put some restriction on it, despite “freedom of religion”? It seems ambiguous to me where the boundary between secularity and religion is in his vision. It sounds more like he has a set of norms, and he wants a state with a majority who agrees to vote to apply it on everyone as a “democracy”, regardless of the freedom of those who want to convert to other sects/religions/atheism.

[@dannywong8727]

"Five Races Under One Union" (五族共和). The Muslim people along with Tibetans people have been living in China harmoniously for centuries. Outside of Xinjiang there are millions of Muslim people living in all parts of China. To say that China suppress Muslim people is simply not true.

[@thisiskevin1000]

People like Adrian Zenz and those from the Turkish far right and the jihadis to be blamed

[@whatsgoingon92]

You make an important distinction there. CCP can be very racist towards Southern Xinjiang Uighurs at most but to say it supresses Islam in general is quite far-fetched. Generally, CCP just doesn't treat religions nicely, even the Buddhists and Christians as long as the religious activities aren't state-approved.

[@cungcung5042]

The reason why many Christian churches oppressed there is because those evangelists didn't teach Jesus Christ teaching, but CIA doctrine to subvert against their own government. Jesus did teach His followers to respect government, not disrepect.

[@Amidat]

@@cungcung5042 Exactly!!! As a Christian I am absolutely flabbergasted at the "underground churches" in China. Over and over the teachings in the bible say that Christians are not supposed to "make waves" in society and to be an example of obedience. That was true even under the occupation of pagan Rome

[@samuelandjw]

Interesting 五族共和 is not even the policy of PRC/CCP. 五族共和 was the slogan of ROC.

[@Cl0ckcl0ck]

Ask him what he thinks of the Uyghur christian genocide by their muslim brothers of 1933 or the Uyghur jihad in Syria by the 5000 Uyghur jihadis of the TIP.

[@tylerwaxman7512]

I have been visited more than 40 Chinese universities, and studied or teached in some of them. All of those universities have Uyghur or Muslim mess hall that provides high quality Muslim food, even 99% of the college students are not Uyghur students. And, Uyghur students get much more support from the government in their daily life and studying. For years I was in college dancing team, and all of us learned Uyghur dances, Tibetan dances from Han dance teachers.

[@之賢-h9q]

@Charming Princess Maybe better than you thought

[@silferbuu86]

When was this and what ethnicity are you? Just curious

[@陈鑫-b5r]

Yes, when it comes to this, students of other nationalities will be jealous because their canteens are cheap and delicious.

[@yongtang777]

Uyghurs got more previlages in China rather than being oppressed. Actually, most han majority people even think the government spoiled them.

[@zululima]

When going to secondary school, high school, one fills in a form, also to provide information on ethnicity. That is because ethnic minorities are getting preferences to be allowed. That was common. It is the same in other socialistic countries.

[@randomuser1481]

It is the Turkish gov who gave them passports in the autonomous region before Chinese central gov aware. This guy is very clever actually. He knows how to mix up the truth and lie to make a seemly valid propaganda.

[@qwertyuiopzxcvbnm9890]

Yeah, it was Turkey that wanted them to go to Syria and fight for Turkish interests

[@randomuser1481]

@@qwertyuiopzxcvbnm9890 It is not even a secret in China. But he avoinding that context really tells something. Many people try to discret him by saying he doesn't know Xinjiang. But I think he knoes pretty well. He just mixed up truth and lies to make his propagada credible. His father were prisoned for simply nothing? Does that sounds like credible to you? I don't think so.

[@thisiskevin1000]

@@qwertyuiopzxcvbnm9890 Outsourced for the US courtesy of the Turkish intel and military. Lest we forget the CIA agenda for Eurasia that was first conceived by Zbignew Brzezinski decades back.

[@User-357dgjkitdvkkoohgj]

Cunning not clever. Lol

[@svy292]

Even though it's a 2 hours show, but we already can get all the message in the first 10 min introduction. He's only 33 who's living in Turkey with an Aussie passport. His mom brought him visiting Xin Jiang since he's young every few years and stay for couple of months, that's mean his family is having a very good and sustained financial support. He went to China as a foreigner and insisted Xin Jiang should be named East Turkistan, means it's part of Turkey, and he claimed the Chinese authority are not treated him and his kin well? Maybe he can try declare the South-Eastern Turkey as Kurdish land and see what will the Turkey government do to him?

[@lucasjiang7574]

while I definitely agree with your point, just wanted to point out Turkestan does not refer to Turkey, rather a part of land that extends to Xinjiang

[@soneryusifov5529]

East turkistan means part of turkeyn? what kind of kush are you on?

[@crystalball020]

One thing I like about the "pro China" commentators is that they are truly trying to be objective. Ask these "freedom fighter media" to ever invite a pro China person on their show

[@stefanosong9314]

He would be laughed and interrupted all the time, like the minster of economics of Singapore interviewed by bbc (i heard he is now vice president?)

[@User-357dgjkitdvkkoohgj]

When they do occasionally for a purpose, they make statements instead of ask questions and force it through the interview like BBC does every time.

[@MAziz-xd6cp]

Daniel Dumbrill is a high ranked fifty cents party member that means he is under the CCP’s Central Propaganda Department’s payroll, just like many western losers spread CCP (China Communist Party) lies around the world, living prospers but conscienceless life. On the other hand Arslan is an ignorant, narrow minded, self-centered, fame hungry bustard, he is not born nor grown up in Uyghur land so he is far from qualify for represent Uyghur people giving such interview he is not a “famous Overseas Uyghur activist”, this label is made up by Daniel Dumbrill and of course Arslan eager to take it, this is a perfect match about one is wants to create perfect CCP’s propaganda the other one is wants to be fames whatever it takes. Arslan is never a “famous Overseas Uyghur activist” among overseas Uyghur community or political group, he represents himself. In this CCP mouthpiece show, Daniel Dumbrill used treacherous fishing strategy to dig all the symptoms of a religious and racism fanatic personality of Arslan and reluctantly generalized one person personality to entre Uyghur people, in the result Daniel Dumbrill effectively spread the CCP propaganda that never able to achieve by China’s official mouthpiece propaganda machine. It is a 21st century and there are millions of Uyghur and other people in the concentration camp with high tech equipment that Hitler never dreamed of back then, Nazi and CCP have one similarity is cruel, ruthless, tight internal camp operation and glamorized propaganda approach, but CCP has more advantage propaganda machine than Nazi, such as mouthpiece like CGTN and thousands of Daniel Dumbrill.

[@stefanosong9314]

@@MAziz-xd6cp imagine

[@cungcung5042]

M. Aziz is American CIA paid bot who can only copy and paste instead of making actual refute or counter argument.

[@kotnakerry3819]

This guy is literally lying through his teeth when he says Uighur ppl trying hard to get Han ethnicity status. Everybody in China knows that the government bestows favored policies upon the minorities.

[@alicesenz6374]

@Charming Princess he said they wished they had the Han ID status, which is what the comment was referring to

[@elsazahra5764]

@Charming Princess, Do u mean equally rights?? Equally rigths to practice the teaching of his chosen faith?? Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion is all for Allah" Some translations interpret "fitna" as "persecution", but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for 2:193). The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during the pilgrimage. Other Muslims were allowed to travel there - but not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction. The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, as it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah", meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition. According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that "Allah must have no rivals" Is this good to support teaching like that??

[@vontasa]

@Charming Princess I doubt he really wants to get equal right as Han people. Man, quite the opposite, every Han people dreams to have the same right as Uygurs getting. Education, business loan, tax reduction, # of children ... , man you name it.

[@tingyang5619]

Yep. When we Chinese watch historic shows where in a period of ancient times in China, some minorities tried hard to become Han people by learning their language, political system, culture, marrying Han women, and by changing their outfits and hair style etc, we always joked that they should have kept their ethnicity, that way, their descendants today will have favored policies from the CPC government 😄

[@布小丁-g5l]

Loool every Han is trying hard to get a minority status because you get extra benefits.

[@李言阙]

我打小生活在新疆二十多年。总体上，中央的民族政策是在帮扶少数民族，优待少数民族，没有任何疑问。 1坦率讲，中国政府为新疆地区付出了很多，1.中央政府通过转移支付为新疆的发展、安保力量、反恐工作提供了大量的财政支持；为新疆的高校建设提供了对口援助，比如针对大学的对口援助（北大清华需要每年派遣一定名额的教授去新疆的大学支教，我初中时就在新疆听过北大教授的课程），针对中小学更有大规模的内地支教活动（本人初中时的班主任和数学老师就是内地毕业的支教老师）。2.新疆的少数民族享受了很多政策福利，这方面是优于新疆汉族人的，比如他们没有计划生育的限制、维族可以携带管制刀具、高考加分20、高考内招班（嗯，这个比高考加分的福利更大）。 问题：为了维稳，确实给生活带来了非常大的不便，比如我从内地会新疆过春节的干个月，累计经历了至少30道安检......（个人视角，感觉用力过猛），而少数民族的不便则会更加夸张。对于这种状况，我表示理解政策出台的背景和现实必要性，但在政策落地方面是否太过严苛、一刀切是指的商榷的，有改进空间。 关于被采访者：通过他的发言，可以看出1.他的逻辑还没系统化，表述往往沉溺于细枝末节，逻辑上往往难以自洽；2.有典型的被迫害妄想症，这也是流亡海外人群的通病。 最后，祖国加油，事实是最有力的明证，今天和十年前的话语环境已经好太多太多了。

[@bz1138]

Xinjiang dont just belong to Uyghur, but belong to every single Chinese citizen. Ask Chinese people too what they want Xinjiang to be.

[@stefanosong9314]

I guess he would put all non islam people into educational camp and put black non sense cloths on women

[@peterzhou2567]

It's called East Turkestan...so no they don't want to as they are a separate country like Taiwan

[@cnwang01]

frank zhou Lol depends who you ask. This is very subjective

[@jy7883]

frank zhou Do you think Catalonia is a seperate country？Do you consider Scotland, North Ireland or even California separate countries? Just because some ppl in those regions think they want independence doesn’t make their ideas right. A lot of people want to get rich instantly, do you think it’s alright for them just go and rob banks and become rich? Separatism is against every country’s constitution, and it’s not okay if you break the law

[@jimzeng5770]

@@peterzhou2567 Taiwan is not a country. It is a province of China. Learn your history.

[@youfeerich540]

So he has not back been to Xinjiang since 2014. So for the last 6 years, his knowledge is from third parties . He is not even born in Xinjiang. So he does not have first hand information. So why are we wasting time interviewing him.???

[@marjolainezhong3654]

Because many media are looking for people like this to discredit China hahahaha

[@Vict0rHy]

Interviewing shows that his level of credibility is close to zero. He is just hearing stories

[@Vict0rHy]

Based on Ethan guttman, based on something... good argument bro

[@crimsonlock8425]

Because those who born and lived in Xinjiang will tell the truth.

[@maxcv1609]

@@crimsonlock8425 youtube上面就有新疆人的频道。可惜你看不懂汉语。而我看得懂英语。可怜虫。

[@youziyo]

I really appreciate the way Daniel carried out this talk. It gives the audience the opportunity to hear the story from both side. I also believe it becomes obvious for anyone with critical thinking that Arslan’ thinking and evidences are fundamentally flawed. It is extremely concerning to see what they are saying without much evidence is gaining so much attention in the western media and people just dived in started calling it a ‘genocide’.

[@TheLatiosnlatias02]

That Arslan should learn to shut up

[@uggguuuuu]

The organ harvesting stories are all really shady sounding. These types of stories are also circulated with Falung Gong people being the supposed victims as well.

[@ctnke]

i mean if you repeat the sentence to yourself you start to lose brain cells

[@samliew6610]

All LIES!!

[@genghissu1185]

and the Falangong are financed by the NED from the USA, they actually posted leaflets over here in the UK trying to drum up support for their Lie machine, I actually have the leaflet saved and normally I would burn them but I am keeping this as historical evidence for the U.S LIE machine.

[@zy9766]

thanks for using Falungong as a example ! They very well known and trustworthy people in America......

[@朱勇-m5c]

​@@zy9766 kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6vPfoSvgp2jbZY

[@user-lr9er4co9z]

I cracked when he referred ‘Radio Free Asia’ as ‘news’...

[@wqt0806]

我裂开了

[@user-ne1tv3hb2k]

And he cited it sooo many times it became a broken record

[@cosmoray9750]

I didn't know there was such a thing called RFA....had to look it up. That should tell ya something. The US government is known for pulling coup on other countries around the world. Find the oppositions and fund them to destabilize the targeted country. " Radio Free Asia is a United States government-funded ". United States involvement in regime change. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change

[@xg5886]

@@MAziz-xd6cp oh yeah everyones a 50 cent lol

[@megaera2988]

His news resource are so outdated

[@black.j9806]

I'm from Beijing and I had many classmates from Xinjiang. Before I came to Europe and started to use KZbin, I've never heard about the camps or any religious problems in China.

[@TheLatiosnlatias02]

That's because there never ways. You know like Iraq's supposed "WMD"

[@scholarssolutions6735]

That’s why I’m glad China banned KZbin. “Free speech” is not worth letting western propaganda sites infect people’s minds.

[@TheLatiosnlatias02]

​@@scholarssolutions6735 Western shit heads like to promote freedom and gender equality but when china does it for the Uighurs, then is genocide.....XD. Most western media that interviews the same paid "escapee" about their experience. However, none of them question if their statement is true or are they fabricating it? No one other than that person can verify that happened. Like some claim their relative is missing but in fact is not. But they never asked those "escapees" were they involved or related to someone who has been involved in terrorist activity? None. They merely took their whole victim story as facts without any validation. Yet when you look at how the west deals with radicalisation....the british citizen that went to join ISIL, Al Shabab, etc... is not no longer accepted into Britain. Others are incarcerated in jails. Yet china's attempt to deradicalised by giving them better knowledge and skills is a bad thing....?? Western mentality is always "we are always right" and "china is always evil communist" but fail to see china is no longer a full communist govt but rather a meritocracy - socialist - capitalist govt. Those western shit heads bring nothing but downfall.

[@tigerlily6668]

Wow everything from this guy is “they told me” after a while into the interview he mentioned according to the Western media. 🤣🤣🤣 Another one of his phrase is “ and that is the fact” 🤣🤔🤔🤔

[@zylbygdfn6542]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👌

[@MarStoryTime]

Well, obviously. He admits that he’s only been to Xinjiang maybe 5 or 6 times.

[@candicem9344]

I know right how dumb does he sound and he can't even look Daniel in the eyes

[@grandwonder5858]

He is the Lying Donald Trump of the Muslim world! Where everything is: "He said," "she said," "they said," "many people are saying," etc! But not one single source to back any of his claims whenever the reporters asked him to cite an example!

[@grandwonder5858]

@@MarStoryTime When in actuality he's been there like 2 times in his life for a total of 2 months!

[@tingwang9465]

I am going to talk about the issue he raised about the travel documents his wife only managed to get from a Chinese embassy. It’s called “lv Xing Zheng” and the Chinese embassy only issue those documents to any overseas Chinese(doesn’t matter if you are a urghur or Han or of any ethnicity) who lost their passports. The travel document will only be good for them to get back to China. It absolutely has nothing to do with your wife’s urghur identity!

[@lzz3202]

Yes, my daughter holds a Lv Xing Zheng because her father is Vietnamese and I'm Chinese, meanwhile my daughter also has a Vietnamese passport.

[@greis6926]

When he said his "friends" would change ID from minority to han, I knew he knows nothing.

[@soaprincee]

And buy a real estate putting under Han friend’s name?! I wish I had Uyghur friend like that. lol

[@yunan7278]

Han actually have less privilige in China, we all are jealous of our classmates/friends who are from minority group😂

[@lisong3772]

@@yunan7278 My friend is from a Hui region in my province-Gansu. They made a mistake about her ethnicity. She is supposed to be Han Chinese. But on her ID card，it's written Hui Chinese. She wanted to change back to Han Chinese while we were in high school. We were like: are you nuts? Cause if she is minority on her ID. She can get extra scores on her college entrance exam.

[@gracetse1276]

quite the oppsite. Many hans change their ethnicity to minority to benefit from the less grade system to universities.

[@polar2995]

@@gracetse1276 Yes this is true. My colleague she was registered as minority even her father is Han, her mother is minority Yu 彝族 in GuangXi. And now she married a Han and has a son. And you guess what... Her son is registered as minority.

[@crystalball020]

Is this the guy that posts all the fake videos? Dude doesn't look trustworthy at all

[@fexe9017]

Are you referring to the Taiwanese BDSM film....? Lol if so...I think it’s him

[@shaphitoyib2321]

He is play taqiya (lier) I know Islam better him 🤣😂🤪

[@sinscope00]

It is him. Never follows up the story nor checks his sources. He doesn’t have real evidence so he resorts to fake news to fuel his narrative.

[@jackorange1882]

Yup, and Daniel got him to admit that it

[@shaphitoyib2321]

@Thanos Infinity wion n sky new is trustwothy ?🤣😂🤪u have good joke

[@randomuser1481]

He talks about how countries applying Sharia law like UAE is secularized such as allowing drinking. But we all know that is not the full story. The women in UAE hardly have any human right at all. They were not even allowed to drive in previos years. Polygyny in those countries does not give them basic rights such as divorce and protection of propertiy. And allowing drinking makes Sharia law human ？ Come on. UAE allows drinking because it relies on tourism.

[@thisiskevin1000]

Qatar and Bahrain too

[@emmawang1999]

My mother is Sibe, my father is Han. By tradition, me and my sister are Han and have my father’s family name. My mom once suggested to change our ethnic identity to Sibe so we can get extra points on the national colledge entrance exam. The truth is ethnic minority groups in China have some preference. The concept of Chinese minority (treated better) is totally different from the minority in US (discriminated).

[@martinlaoshi]

The US has had a black president, black generals, black ministers. All the people in the top of the Chinese government are Han, are they not? Is that total coincidence, do you think? Not saying all minorities have it bad in China, most of them don't. But being Han Chinese is still the most advantageous. Just like being white in America or Europe is. Let's not kid ourselves.

[@emmawang1999]

@@martinlaoshi do you have any sense of proportionality? Over ninety percent of the people in China are Han Chinese, while in America the minority population is close to fourty percent. Also, you still have de facto racial segregation. All white neighborhoods, all black schools, and so on. Cops can shoot to kill unarmed minority without the fear of being prosecuted. They basically have a lisece to kill.

[@martinlaoshi]

@@emmawang1999 it's over 90 procent Han in China and over 70 procent white in the US. But your missing my point. Both white people and Han in China are the majority and therefore being part of that is a big advantage. Yet, if i read your and other comments here, they are pretending that being a minority is somehow an avantage. That's just silly talk in my opinion. Even if there are some advantageous policies, being part of a large majority is still a much bigger advantage, in any society.

[@emmawang1999]

@@martinlaoshi China does have official policies that give its minorities preferential treatment, while the USA does not have. Even the affirmative action, which was designed to give minority equal treatment, is opposed by many. In the US the whites take their white privilege for granted. They feel threatened if minority asks for equal treatment.

[@martinlaoshi]

@@emmawang1999 affirmitive action is common all over the world, not just in China. But you clearly live in your own fantasy bubble, so i am done. Bye bye.

[@randomuser1481]

And it may sounds racist. But applying Sharia law in mordern age is even worse than the most backward and authotorian regime like north korea. Women can hardly be treated like human, let alone equally. If I have to choose between Sharia law and north korea, I will choose north korea.

[@tony3003001]

Ikr? Even in the politically radical left thinks this would be the terrible idea not to mentions moderate liberals or even radical right .

[@mocabz1576]

idk much about nk but if it is communist then communism by nature means everyones equal and women are treated the same as men are treated which is the complete opposite of sharia law.

[@user-qt8tj3oo1b]

whatever you feel about cpc, china under cpc gave more rights to women than kmt.

[@tam6493]

Actually Sharia law was really good back in Prophet Muhammads time, because everybody was Muslim right but nowadays its not possible and also not everybody is muslim in Xinjiang right? And Sharia Law is all about the Muslims

[@genghissu1185]

Religion is all racist no matter what religion and has been used to hide the fact that all of their wars are for a racist cause, you only have to look at the Christian Crusades for that proof, all religion ends up becoming a mental illness as it usually ends up becoming religious fanaticism and all religious teachings go out of the window and that is why I would never let religion into my life.

[@chenzhuo9]

How can this guy speak for Xinjiang. He ain’t even from there or living there...

[@MarStoryTime]

CIA/Australian intelligence asset.

[@unifieddynasty]

It is rather ridiculous. It's like hiring an American-born Chinese whose barely lived in China to be the "China expert".

[@vilx1308]

as if those westerners were, as if u were

[@longchen9382]

@@unifieddynasty Oh, the "China experts" in the US are all white ppl. Not even American-born Chinese

[@ahnonime9763]

He lived there. But he never experienced there.

[@brianleung8912]

If I'm his father in law and he ask me to visit, I'd pretend I don't have a passport either...... "Errr, yea, suuuure... CPC don't let me have a passport... I guess I won't be seeing you this Thanksgiving. Aw, shucks." 🤣😂

[@TSRHelios]

better to distance away from problem maker right

[@wangvinny2439]

The guy is not trustworthy at all.

[@johanhirte9661]

And why ? I mean they talked about several posts he made that are not authentic. But they obviously didn’t talk about the things that are authentic. Like 1 mio 2 mio 500K. Daniel is mocking that these numbers have no exact proof and that they are just estimated with the numbers of beds and food which are ordered. But that doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. So we ordered 1 mio bed but who says that 100K of them may not be in use ? How u can say that 1 mio are detained then !? So 900K are detained. Does that change the fact that it is happening !? Like this yeah I’m doing it but catch me if u can mentality is kinda ...... let’s say weird !? Like proof that I do it but I won’t let u interview people as u want. Proof that they are no concentration camps but u are not allowed to go there. And let’s face it even the videos of the camps of CGTN are quite scary. Imagine u are put into a camp u can’t leave u have to sing dance and learn a major cant call ur family u are not allowed to leave, u are actually a 40 years old adult that is treated like a 6 years old child !? Isn’t that humiliation enough !? Like imagine that would happen to chinese in the west. Put them into a camp, let them sit there and sing a song together. Make dance choreography and show this to journalists, clap ur hands and be disciplined like in a army school. Like WTF....... That’s pure humiliation. U can’t treat adults like kids and then say their human dignity was not touched.

[@user-ms7tf3wi8f]

There are 56 ethnic groups in China. The Chinese are not only represented by the Han nationality. From elementary school, the teacher told us that 56 ethnicities are a family and that we must be united and loving each other.

[@BenjiSun]

in the meantime we can see clearly on western media how their whites treat their non-white people. "such a beautiful sight to behold"

[@cadhlaohanlon4443]

This guy wasted good years of his life living in lies, may Allah bless him with a clear mind what he needs the most.

[@gmansingh4916]

He is no different from all US funded freedom fighters, HK rioters, Color Revolution paid actors 😂

[@abdeenn3]

Thanks again, Gman! I always like your sharp words. I am not even Chinese 😀!

[@samsun01]

His 'arguments' are not convincing enough. We're trying VERY HARD to be open minded, trust me. But, his arguments are triggering our "spidy sense" a lot. Also, using Guangzhou as an example, all school children learn Mandarin at school but they are free to speak Cantonese after school, in their homes. Guangzhou people had the same grievances about having their "culture" wiped out. It's not exclusive just to Xinjiang. But I can say Guangzhou 'culture' is still alive and well because the "government" isn't systemically destroying cultures. It's just not how China operates, unless you view everything with a Western lenses and you project your Western biases and assumptions onto the Chinese.

[@birdyashiro1226]

Trueee paid actors😂🤣😂🤣

[@cosmoray9750]

True say. So this is the guy who is spreading all the fake news.....I meant the guest on Daniel's show.✌

[@魂-m8y]

I could have gone to Xinjiang and see for myself but nah I'd rather believe in fake news and CIA propaganda. Now I have 30k Twitter followers, look Ma I'm famous

[@WenshengZHANG]

Hum, I'm from Xinjiang and my driver license is in both Uygur and Chinese, I'll have to show it to everyone, since it's "for show".

[@seno3215]

There is a very interesting place: Every "Xinjiang native" who claims to be oppressed by CCP speaks English They say that the Chinese government does not allow them to receive education, forces them to work, and rapes and beats them The shocking thing is that these guys can learn and use English under long-term attacks. I have studied English in China from elementary school to university, but my English fluency is not even better than these "battered slaves" A slave in Xinjiang who can travel freely in and out of China and can speak English fluently? Haha, this is the most amazing genocide plan I have ever heard of 有个非常有趣的地方： 每一个声称自己受到CCP压迫的“新疆人”都会说英文 他们说中国政府不让他们接受教育，强迫他们劳动，并强奸殴打他们 可令人震惊的是这些家伙可以在长期被攻击的情况下学习并使用英文 我在中国从小学开始到大学都在学习英语，可是我的英语流畅度甚至比不过这些“被殴打的奴隶” 一个可以自由出入中国并且能流畅使用英语的新疆奴隶？ 哈哈，这是我听说过的最神奇的种族灭绝计划

[@grandwonder5858]

Isn't that right? You can smell the BS pouring out of his every pore! Especially when you consider most of the Muslims from his home territories (Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, etc) the Muslim people aren't even allowed to have an education except reading the Koran all day and women are forced to be the slaves of men!

[@kenloh7]

Most of this guy’s info come from Radio Free Asia....I completely lost confidence in his sources....😱😰😨🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[@lingxiaoqian3422]

😂😂me too

[@megaera2988]

Free Asia is like the voice of American, propaganda 🧐

[@sui-yu-er-an]

@Chloe Lin Epoch time is funded by NED which is supported by USA government

[@orr2976]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3_Rep5jr9OdgNk&ab_channel=BestChinaInfo

[@cheese-df1yx]

As long as the religion is not the version this guy want, it is not Muslim? It is not up to him to judge.

[@TheLatiosnlatias02]

Either he's a mirzai pawn from a carbon copy of jehovah's witness called ahmadiyya or he's one of those wahabi extremists

[@Abby.L]

A funny truth: most of the Uygur activists they received good education in China, they went abroad or got connected with someone abroad, they started voicing up for Uyghur to act against government. Like a Uyghur professor from my university in China, a 985 university in Beijing, he was a lecturer in Economics but what he talked about in class was mostly anti-governmental outrages. He was sentenced to a life-long imprisonment after 2009. It turned out that he was involved precisely speaking, one of the leaders in the July. 5 riot, where hundreds innocent people were randomly killed on the street, in their stores or home, regardless of nationality. Many Uyghurs I met, talked to in the Netherlands, they show more tendancy of denying their Chinese background, differentiating or distancing themselves from non-Uyghur Chinese people. Many of them got Dutch citizenship by claiming themselves as refugees. Few of them moved to the Netherlands because their partners who work in China are sent here.

[@wenhuazhao9965]

You are right, Chinese government does a poor job at western style media. I admire your to take on this challenge task. As a Chinese living in the US, I feel frustrated to see so many baseless accusations against China. I tried to ignore them but I know they are affecting my life. Can't imagine what will be like after the lockdown. Thank you and best wishes!

[@xucg]

today the german ZDF reported, in the past one year about 3800 attacks against asia/chinese people happened in US. especially in the past month, the attacks happens more frequently and violently.

[@EH-pe2sv]

@@xucg I don't think average joe in america give a damn about ouighur issue at all. There were many accusations all years around, back in 2017, 2018, 2019 but you didnt see the urge of asian hate crime, only after covid, things change, coz the virus really affects their lives. To be honest, rising hostility between china and western world nowadays also gives a boost to this trend, specially tough responses from china to western accusations are repeatly reported in western medias and also the boycott things going on in china, etc. All make low-iq western people think that china is an evil country who never admits its own faults, and chinese are so bad to support their evil country. This is a really bad cycle, and only soluation is that both sides should calm down and both side should be honest and open to discuss these serious issues. Cursing each other is really not helping.

[@class6aa]

The funny thing is everyone is attributing this rise in hate crime to Trump, while almost all mainstream western media is in the China blaming game.

[@tigerwong8699]

why you still living in US? The US is no longer a democracy, but a racist country for its personal interests. I am sad to see that many native US citizens are racist against US citizens of Asian descent.

[@tigerwong8699]

@@EH-pe2sv US citizens do not know the origin of the corona virus came from a leak in the Bio Lab at Fort Detric Maryland since August 2019, which means before the corona virus exploded in Wuhan, China.

[@georgexu5333]

Arranged marriage is different from forced marriage. LAUGHABLE.

[@georgexu5333]

@asdf hahaha

[@MarStoryTime]

That was the most bizarre part.

[@OnTheRoadWithEric]

this guy's head is messed up. he sounds like a extremist already.

[@fredwu7169]

@Hayley Rule *Because parents in rural China are merely more eager to Have grandchildren and you actually have the right to refuse and they are still going to love you and not disowning you but keep finding more partner in hope for your interest. Is that NOT different?*

[@cccfsr]

in rural China, parents may eager to find partners for their children, but their children could actually refuse them without be disowned or even be honor murdered. of course honor murders are not often in XJ, but they still happened. and when those murderers were regarded as the heroes of the villages, you know the villages are in deep shits.

[@benjaminrobinson7203]

When he said that he wishes he had what the Palestinians are struggling through that made my blood boil

[@Glider12396]

Basically An Australian believes in separating China and has his own agenda... crazy

[@MarStoryTime]

Yeah, Australia is playing America’s game too.

[@tonglianheng]

@wild chimp I guess Australia should start by deporting all the whites to England and give the country back to its rightful owner the aboriginals. And the same applies to the US. Europeans should return to Europe and give the land back to Indians.

[@gaodacheese4691]

The holy trinity USA, Australia (second US colony) and Canada (third US colony)

[@grandwonder5858]

@@tonglianheng Hallelujah! Whites like to talk about human rights and rights of minorities, but why don't they go back to their land and leave the native people alone for once?

[@lovinenglanduk]

This guy`s video interviews are much more objective than journalists`. I simply don't understand why many people from HK and Taiwan hate his videos.

[@ultramax8032]

This guy is on CIA's payroll

[@danblumel]

Yes, Dumbrill is on Canadian CIA payroll.

[@jamiehou4189]

Dan Blumel There’s no CIA in Canada. The Turkish guy is obviously on payroll of Turkish government.

[@DannyChean]

Well done Daniel. You are truly one of the best vlog interviewers out there. Let them talk and they will expose themselves. Maybe when they play it back they realize how ridiculous they sound.

[@wrongchannel2780]

$5k to $10k for a passport, LoL, I'm quite surprised that an oppressed ethnic can have that much money.

[@fangshuma8969]

This guy is a big liar. My university is China University of Petroleum. 2 of my girl classmates are from Xinjiang. I am from Shandong province. My entrance mark for my university was 593. Both of their marks were 400-450. The university even has a Muslim restaurant for them. I also have serval HUI classmates who are also Muslim, their marks were 20 marks lower than the Han Chinese in the same province.

[@aroonsubway2079]

It is so sad that he is speaking fluent English like this. Where is his own culture? I guess if a Uyghur guy speaks perfect Mandrian, there will be a lot of critizes from westerners, like "China so bad to force him learn Mandrian" LOL

[@newscumskate9631]

He's an Australian citizen.

[@yangjirui123]

that is exactly what they d say

[@lpeng5411]

@@pithikoulis Interestingly, Uighur can take college entrance exam in their language instead of Mandrian, also China has National anthem in Uyghur. They are perfectly fine to speak or write in their own language. Actually, most Han live in Xinjiang can speak Uyghur.

[@lpeng5411]

@@pithikoulis Hopefully CIA are not cutting your funding due to the pandemic

[@eamoncat]

English, the language of democracy, is allowed to learn for Uyghurs!

[@mickkrever4084]

*The question is why didn't he interview the King👑 of Hawaii🏝️ whether he would like to take his kingdom back, or any of the native Americans whether or not they would like to take their land back 👍*

[@JC-sl7bs]

This Uyghur activist should also stand by for the Australian Natives, who are supposed to govern Australia.

[@conormcelroy1898]

Because a hot war with China must be avoided and the Uighurs' genocide narrative is providing pretext for war. Just as the baseless domino effect provided pretext for America's war in Vietnam, the anti semitic / anti bolshevik conspiracy theory provide pretext for spanish nationalist wass to overthrow the 2nd spanish republic and created the spanish civil war Suharto regime used anti communist murder plot conspiracy theorys to murder between 1-3 million people in Indonesia in the 60s

[@Vict0rHy]

Thank you for interviewing him, he is just discrediting himself

[@GnirpsNaireip]

I guess limiting to four wives is such an advancement of human conditions?! Better still, let’s also allow multiple husbands!

[@Tommah1000]

That part I agree with him

[@GnirpsNaireip]

@Hussein Abbas True. Though what I remember from my high school history class is there were times in history when human lived in a matriarchal society. You can still see some ethnic minorities in the southwest China that kept the matriarchal traditions, where women are the head of the family, men live with their mother and sisters, and kids are raised by their maternal uncles but not their fathers. At some point in history, patriarchal society replaced the matriarchal society. I’m no anthropologist but I can imagine it might be because matriarchal society has a higher productivity and stronger defense, and hence won the competition and was passed on.

[@richardrichard3332]

CHINESE GOVERMENT IS DOING RIGHT THING ABOUT XINJIANG

[@sctan8649]

any proof?

[@雨尘-b1g]

@@sctan8649 As a Chinese, I can tell you that in China you can believe in Buddhism, Christianity, and Islam, but how can you launch terrorist attacks in the name of religion, such as throwing bombs everywhere, hacking people with knives everywhere, dividing a country, and subverting The sovereignty of a country is against the law, and I think it is not allowed in any country. Western media will only blindly discredit China’s lack of freedom of religious belief and suppress all believers. If you only get information from Western media, sorry, you will never get the truth.

[@watson7042]

@@sctan8649 when you are charging someone for his crime you should prove not the guy who is being charged! So, is there any sound evidence from Westerners? None! All have been proved to be fake (for instance, in the BBC's interview with Chinese ambassador Liu, showed him a video claiming Uyghurs are being kneeled down and being oppressed in the video, finally being proved that it is a prisoner transportation occurred in Bi Jie, almost 3000 km away from Xinjiang......WTF, liars!)

[@MAziz-xd6cp]

Daniel Dumbrill is a high ranked fifty cents party member that means he is under the CCP’s Central Propaganda Department’s payroll, just like many western losers spread CCP (China Communist Party) lies around the world, living prospers but conscienceless life. On the other hand Arslan is an ignorant, narrow minded, self-centered, fame hungry bustard, he is not born nor grown up in Uyghur land so he is far from qualify for represent Uyghur people giving such interview he is not a “famous Overseas Uyghur activist”, this label is made up by Daniel Dumbrill and of course Arslan eager to take it, this is a perfect match about one is wants to create perfect CCP’s propaganda the other one is wants to be fames whatever it takes. Arslan is never a “famous Overseas Uyghur activist” among overseas Uyghur community or political group, he represents himself. In this CCP mouthpiece show, Daniel Dumbrill used treacherous fishing strategy to dig all the symptoms of a religious and racism fanatic personality of Arslan and reluctantly generalized one person personality to entre Uyghur people, in the result Daniel Dumbrill effectively spread the CCP propaganda that never able to achieve by China’s official mouthpiece propaganda machine. It is a 21st century and there are millions of Uyghur and other people in the concentration camp with high tech equipment that Hitler never dreamed of back then, Nazi and CCP have one similarity is cruel, ruthless, tight internal camp operation and glamorized propaganda approach, but CCP has more advantage propaganda machine than Nazi, such as mouthpiece like CGTN and thousands of Daniel Dumbrill.

[@wadhaalmarri2268]

Okay I hope the same happens to your people and YOU especially I hope you and your people go trough everything Muslims in China have been going through let’s see what you’re going to say 😘

[@mytube6616]

Daniel, you are real brave Canadian who fights the lies with the truth! I am proud of you.

[@elaineg60]

Sorry, I have Uyghur friends on Twitter actually living in Xinjiang, (and I know Daniel does too), that A. Tell a VERY different story and B. Want nothing to do with more “conservative” Islam with few to no rights for women, (and sorry, a “right” to have multiple “sister-wives”, “right” to “do anything that their husbands allow”-is NOT the life THEY want); and the other more conservative beliefs that Arslan calls “true Islam”. Bottom line, Daniel was correct that my country is using the situation to fuel a new, profitable Cold War; and being an American who knows enough Americans who have been in China for many years, and has Chinese friends; I’m all too aware of the efficacy of Western brainwashing..or maybe “programming” is more appropriate. Added: also, when Arslan retweeted the infamous “tomato genocide” picture and then retweeted Adrian? I researched Dominionists (like Adrian-it’s a pseudo-Christian movement who’s goal is a fundamentalist Christian world theocracy, destroying secular nations like China, then using their number and power to destroy Islam, and Judaism to bring about “the second coming”. They believe they are both entitled and ordered by God to accomplish these goals and will be rewarded with unbelievable wealth here and beyond. I’d STRONGLY suggest Arslan READ HIS BOOK and look up Dominionism-also called 7-mountains and Apostolic Reformation. As another example of Adrian’s using who he needs to to gain fame and fortune in his Dominionist circles-Adrian has frequently teamed up with Epoch Times, run by Falun Gong, who’s leader believes he’s the true Chinese Emperor..along with a bunch of other, crazy, VERY “non-Peaceful” goals for China including nuking the rest of the world to bring about the apocalypse.), for OVER 7 years and as I said within the parenthesis, if you believe ANYTHING Adrian puts out there..you either don’t know his beliefs and where he’s coming from OR you share his beliefs.

[@ahnonime9763]

Yeah it's quite scary that such an extremist pretends to be an activist. A secular nation is at least much more friendly to those non-Muslim. And at least 30% of the people live there are Han Chinese. Also Daniel mentionned that also many Buddhists there in history. Interesting if thinking about how islamic force "introduced" into that region.

[@elaineg60]

Ah No Nime Carl Zha has some excellent podcasts on the history of Xinjiang (Silk and Steel podcast; the one he does with historic.ly gives a complicated, but full history of the region). And, of course, you are correct; as with almost every other area, the people didn’t willfully convert from Buddhism..at least not at first. Many were also refugees from the Ottoman Empire , who fled to practice a much more moderate form of Islam- -which is where the moderate Uyghur and other Islamic sects in Xinjiang came from. This is also one of the issues even today because the more conservative Muslims in Turkey and the extremists, don’t exactly approve of female imams and the rights and practices of women in Xinjiang. And of course, the Chinese Govt not allowing Sharia law..oh my, I wonder if Arslan is as concerned about the Muslims in many US States who have actually added amendments to State constitutions to ban Sharia law?? I also should have added that it’s not only friends on Twitter that have informed me of their experiences in Xinjiang. I first became interested because a couple of friends of my Dear Son were teaching English at one of the schools portrayed as a “concentration camp” in a BBC and Australian documentary. They had taught there for about 3 years and never saw the things that supposedly happened all the time. They were shocked when they saw the “documentaries” because they had been interviewed for them-but, of course, their interviews weren’t shown. I just wish I knew how to get through to fellow Westerners that it NOT our Chinese friends who are the brainwashed ones...

[@megaera2988]

wow you nailed it ! Thank you for all the information !

[@民主youtube一直无理由]

You can't punish your husband if he got some girls outside, so let's give him more wives legally,, problem solved~~~~~ This is just hilarious 😂 BTW, Li Hongzhi, the leader of Falungong is not just believe he is the true Chinese Emperor, he also think himself is better and higher than the Buddha and Jesus~~~ At least he and his followers believe so :)

[@BenjiSun]

@@民主youtube一直无理由 he actually claims to be the brother of Jesus, born of immaculate concepcion, so he believes himself to be the son of God. and then changed his birthday to be on the date of Buddha's birthday. if that's not a cult leader, all the conspiracy crap about why "China only wants Falungong organs" is even more ridiculous. why? do they have superpowers? do getting FLG organs means better hard-ons? because that's what the west also accuse China of, right? hardcore FLG spleens are the OG Spanish fly or something... it's worse that the illuminati bullshit in the US with their all-seeing eye pyramid dollar bill. lol, even i'm at a loss for words to keep going with this dumbass bullshittery.

[@guangyang547]

It is glad that you show how they lied again and again, which is opposite to the Islam. Same tactics as the HK and TW separatists, as they learned from the same book and got the similar source of money. He and his family is considered as a traitor, and potential radical attackers.

[@henryl6420]

I have friends who live happily in Xinjiang. Don’t understand why those Uyghur activists choose to be liars.

[@suiteyousir]

Are you Uyghur?

[@FanDi-m5h]

I know this guy, sponsored by CIA, NED. Spreading hatred and fake news about Xinjiang is his business, forget about freedom human rights when his lips move.

[@htlow3598]

@ D, how do you know he is sponsored by CIA, NED? If you got evidence, you need to quote the sources here with your statement. Making irresponsible throwaway statements like you have just done is what Daniel Dumbrill is trying to fight. Have you not learnt anything from watching this interview? It is sad to see you received, at the time I am posting my response, 45 likes - presumably by non-thinking people like you.

[@peterzhou2567]

Why is your name D...you a fake account boi

[@australianpopulism3490]

@@htlow3598 Do you know Google Searching Engine?

[@htlow3598]

@@australianpopulism3490 , what about Google search engine?

[@peterzhou2567]

@@FanDi-m5hhahahhahahahah sure babe whatever keeps you warm at night

[@milosmilunovic8358]

So he literally doesnt have any evidence for his statements, admitted to posting fake videos but we should just believe him and his friends testimonies ...very convincing

[@iberico8174]

Also said at 46:00 that the model he wants for Xinjiang is Bosnia right now!!! Yeah! Great idea! Bosnia+Sharia sounds great lol Literally muslims in China’s Xinjiang have better life standards with the CCP than a lot of muslims in western style countries!!!

[@alisonx6875]

sorry? would you expect someone who was brought into a concentration camp to take a picture of what's going on? for your information smart guy, china has one of the most strict security across the entire world, with police stopping you everywhere you go in the west of xinjiang, and having high quality camera's everywhere. there's no way he can provide evidence. i literally can't imagine someone being able to provide proof if china is extremely strict. there's no way thousands of uyghur's would make up these situations

[@milosmilunovic8358]

@@alisonx6875 Alison ure lying your *ss off in here..Theres no 1000 of testimonies ..there are dozens and they all come from people in western based, founded and funded NGOS like Uyghur conference ..USA( cia) have the same project and system for all the countries they want to destroy ( Venezuela, Iran,Syria,Iraq..etc ) ..Independent journalists have been checking these testimonials and so far dozens have been found out to be complete lies just like your friend Arslan lying here about his father whos actually minor celebrity and is regularly on local TV . Second, whole world has mobile cameras these days..yet there is zero evidence or leaked photos of any violence, genocide, oppression in whole Xinjang ?! Its impossible..furthermore..Xinjang is open for turism and we have hundreds of tourists posting on twitter every day from there showing prosperous and happy life of Uyghurs on the streets ..Absolutely no clue of any "genocide" ..Further more every claim by western msm, ngos, "independent" us army funded agencies like Australias ASPI have been caught fabricating and lying online regarding uyghurs which showed agenda( motive ) to push uyghur story ...We even have a videos from Albanian antichina professor visiting educational camp trying to get some info from locals and u can see they have no clue what hes talking about ....So ..i dont know if ure just brainwashed or evil if ure lying on purpose but either way...grow up , grow brain and character first then come back ..

[@huif7980]

@@alisonx6875 loooool, if China is that strict as u said, no photo, no news can be leak out, how the hell US knows there are camps? How the hell u can believe those hearsays?

[@burnerburner4074]

@@huif7980 they DO have photos...satellite photos😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@spinach-colour-joey6776]

Does this guy have any evidence other than "trust me bro"?

[@aghs2169]

hello everyone, i am a 'Northern Mexico' activist

[@jiasui8255]

Hahaha you are legend

[@fidelcatsro6948]

Viva Revolution!

[@sichenghao3747]

Hi, South Canadian here

[@ankaschannel]

I don't get it explain

[@mariuszhu9970]

@@ankaschannel The man in the video calls Xinjiang East Turkey for his thought of freeing Xinjiang. Then NothernMexico means freeing America lol.

[@paolohou]

the best thing that CCP did was free women from the old dark age.

[@zhugeliang007]

Yes. Without CCP, Xinjiang will be another state like Taliban, ISIS, etc.

[@MM-br3gt]

@@zhugeliang007 Then why does the CCP support the Taliban in Afghanistan . That means the CCP doesn't see them as a terrorist but poor innocent Uighurs are in concentration Camps , so according to the CCP every Uighur person is a t ...... .

[@zhugeliang007]

@@MM-br3gt CCP is against imperialism. When Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan, China alongside with US and Pakistan aided all the Mujahideen freedom fighters. But after their country liberated, the hardline of their groups formed Taliban and tried to impose very radical Sharia law and discriminated women, minorities and other religions. Not only that, they also supported terrorism. Why should the Chinese keep helping them ?

[@MM-br3gt]

@@zhugeliang007 The CCP has always help party's which are always against the west today the Taliban . But the history of the Taliban is its been a very backward society where the government has torched it's people no respect for women . One of the worst implementations of Islam has been in Afghanistan and the CCP supports the Taliban . Instead of putting innocent Uighurs in reeducation camps put the Taliban in reeducation camps lol .😂

[@zhugeliang007]

@@MM-br3gt CCP didn't help the Taliban. Didn't you read my previous post ? Remember, US invasion of Afghanistan in 2001 in their war against terrorism. That invasion was a UN sanctioned, China was 'in favor' at the voting. That's not a definition of helping. And btw, the East Turkestan terrorists was Taliban's ally at that time and was declared terrorist entity by US government. So you can't say these guys are not dangerous. And as so many Uyghurs were exposed to radicalism, many agree that reeducation is necessary.

[@CW-iw1vg]

I graduated from a small university in the central region of China and we have very decent quality Muslim dining halls (清真食堂) on campus. I am Han Chinese but I used to go every week to taste the stewed potatoes and lamb. And the folks who dined there, regardless of Uyghur, Hui, or Han, were nice and we used to play basketball together. It is sad to see someone with an origin in China trying to separate us and turn us against each other.

[@davedeng2295]

35:10 How strange, since when did Western Countries care so much about Muslims? Giving moral support to ethnic minorities and religious minorities while those same minorities are discriminated within in their own borders.

[@arareign8944]

Good he acknowledges that there's really terrorism happened in Xynjiang. How can he say that he wants Uighurs to be a Secular Muslims, when already they are. This Uighur separatists were just thingking of themselves they are telling to the world that they are the only ones who are living in that area while in fact other ethnic groups like the Tatars, Tajiks, Kazahks, Uzbeks, Russians, Monggols, Xibes, Manchus etc. we're living there too, this groups won't allow Xynjiang be separated from China.

[@youguanhen9389]

He tried to justify the attack by saying China staged it.

[@laurence28]

It appears in the whole interview the only source this dude got is “Radio Free Asia”...No questions, source are legit...

[@sulandelemere]

1:22 claims that the uyghur language is banned. I have found that it’s everywhere in xinjiang. In the East of China my uyghur students would speak their own uyghur language outside of class and mandarin in class to communicate with the other students of various ethnicities.

[@qiangshao3372]

well. Urgher language is printed in every single chinese currecy RMB. I mean paper one, not including the coins.

[@starshipdriver8536]

Not in the concentration camps and the Han name overrides the uyghur name for children in the re-education camps.

[@class6aa]

@@qiangshao3372 and there’s also a rap star who rap in Uighur on China state media show. That video clip can easily found on KZbin too...

[@hanfresco]

@@class6aa Yup, v=4oQgO5RY8AY at 2:07 he starts rapping in Uyghur language. The song is《让暴风雨来得更猛烈些吧》by 那吾克热 (Newqiran Yüsüp)

[@class6aa]

@@hanfresco kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJCbZoOFjLaFodE this too, rap in Uighur and used Uighur traditional instruments

[@msz006c1a]

I personally got Uyghur friends. We went to university together back in the day. What he said contradicts most what I heard from a real human being I constantly keep in touch with.

[@bv2011]

I stopped watching as soon as he mixed shariiah law with a desire to have a liberal democracy which included Lgbti, while in the previous sentence he stated disapproval of alcohol selling and private fornicating in other predominantly Islamic countries. Clearly the guy still has a lot to learn about life, his religion and history.

[@shadoh711]

i dont know, after he said "the Urumqi riot, massacre…depending which side you are on, you will label it differently" i really couldnt believe he is promoting any justified cause. what he said about the policies are obvious false too.

[@huili3088]

shadoh711 it's like saying Japan invaded or saved Asian in ww2 depending which side you're on ...

[@urdbest3212]

The rioters acted similarly in HK, trying to justify their criminal and terr behaviors. Maybe terr groups could be trained and sponsored by same foreign forces.

[@RK-yu1nt]

‘One man with multiple wives’, the gender discrimination of this makes me angry, so many women didn’t have choice to be in these marriages due to poverty, women are not possessions of men! I’d like to know is it ok for one Muslim woman has multiple husbands in your version of Xinjiang?

[@ahnonime9763]

I want to hear his opinion if one woman with multiple husbands. Is that halal? Is that allowed? So is that ideal country still "perfect muslim"?🤣

[@Amidat]

that has nothign to do with islam - it was common practice throughout the world until fairly recently in history... women outnumber men... I think the guy is wrong about a lot - but he is absolutely correct when he says "being a player" is fine - but not having multiple wives. everything else he said though is off.

[@youguanhen9389]

" we are conservative people" "we can have multiple wives and arrange marriage for our kids" 🤔

[@thisgoogleaccount5009]

Amidat - men have always outnumbered women in China by a lot. So what he said doesn’t work. Also if hes okay with guys having multiple wives then he needs to be okay with girls having multiple husbands. Otherwise it’s just plain old sexism and another Muslim dude thinking he’s entitled to do whatever just because he was born male. I think people are getting really sick of these extremists and their stupid double standards. Don’t go around talking about human rights when you can’t even treat women as equals. He thinks it’s okay to be a player but would most definitely murder any female “player” in sight. Man I am so sick of people like this. It’s baffling to me that they still exist in 2020

[@Amidat]

@@thisgoogleaccount5009 men have always outnumbered women???? where did you get that idea/?

[@Kailiu323]

this guy has one major self-contradiction is that he is dreaming to have a so called true Islamic country, yet he wants the true Islamic country to be a free country like USA so to speak, how confilct the his dream is.

[@tonglianheng]

It's just a lie aimed to get Westerners onboard. There is no contradiction to him: seek an islamic state but say whatever that is needed to get support from Western suckers.

[@grandwonder5858]

@@tonglianheng If he wants to live in a society where only his Muslim people are allowed to exist and rule why he doesn't just move himself and his family back to where his people originally came from, such as Turkey, Afghanistan, etc? Muslims aren't native to China!

[@jennifercjensen]

Daniel, you did a good job. When I google Uyghur, it returned to me all negative news about China instead of giving me the population, culture and travel information. Missing several millions people is a huge number, that is very obvious and the missing people's family and friends would look for them.

[@CSFAV]

This guy is a joke. End of story. 😒 Thanks Daniel for showing us

[@xiaoyueli1777]

Let’s mark this interview and watch it couple years later! I mean, this guy obviously knows how to make a life in a community, for him it is being an English teacher in Turkey. However, he seems doesn’t know it is impossible to find a job in China if you don’t understand Mandarin and have criminal records! He complained that Uighur people were treated unfairly even finished education, but do they really deserve decent jobs if they are not qualified? I live and work overseas as well and I understand it’s hard for immigrants if you are required to be fluent in foreign language, and try to merge with mainstream culture. If Han people can do that, why Uighur people cannot? Oh yeah this guy chose to fit himself into western culture instead of Chinese, hypercritical!

[@dragonfly02490]

Who is he to say who's practicing real Islam or not. It's none of his business.

[@AngelosGT]

That's the kind of "freedom" he claims. To have the right to judge all others.

[@psstblue]

It would have helped if he had defined what “false Islam” was.

[@wanhunkow]

He is dreaming.

[@samchiew4370]

What he said about islam in America makes American looking like the defender of Islam. What a joke!

[@liliany9267]

Daniel，thank you so much you showing us this video. 谢谢您所做的一切，也只有你这么耐心地和不同于自己政见的人谈话，普通人根本做不到。当我看到你所做的一切，我意识到其实我也应该这么做，因为我们都是想世界更美好，而不是互相指责或是充满谎言！

[@takcheeli9770]

Daniel you’ve outdone many many journalist as an interviewer. Your guest don’t have a clue on how to run a country, yet he has visions after visions. And you were very patient with him, no debate, and respectful too. Good job.

[@grandwonder5858]

"Your guest don’t have a clue on how to run a country, yet he has visions after visions." ----------------------------------------------------- The Muslim vision is one of Sharia Law, in which the leaders have multiple wives and all women, including their own wives, are covered head to toe in a black garb with only a couple of small holes for breathing and speaking. Women must be guided by men if they stepped outside their house for any reason like a sheep being walked by her sheep master! People must pay a ransom to their Islamic leaders where they are subjected to raids and punishments if their leaders feel they haven't follow the Koran to the degree that their leaders want them to follow! It's a religious cult that is very similar to the one practiced by Satanists!

[@alisonchu8787]

He started doing his activist things for few years and was still able to travel to Xinjiang ? a bit unbelievable for me.

[@grandwonder5858]

Yeah, in the US they would have sent him to Guantánamo Bay since he would be regarded as an anti-US terrorist and the US government would have kept a file on him and his every move! No way would they let a guy like this into the US without the FBI going after him!

[@michaelataturk249]

Hui people are a Muslim minority in China..... the Hui people are successful and live well with the Han people........

[@MsStar266]

I find that China even takes pride in having so many minorities.

[@chongliu2705]

Actually Hui people are Han people who believe Islam.

[@雨尘-b1g]

@@MsStar266 Yes, there are 56 ethnic groups in China, and basically each ethnic group has its own language. However, language barriers are the biggest obstacle to communication and communication among the 56 ethnic groups. The country generally requires Mandarin to be spoken in the classroom, because after all, there are different places. People have different languages, but you can still speak your own language in life or in your own ethnic group, and you are not forced to speak Mandarin. However, many western media said out of context that the Chinese government has eliminated the languages of different ethnic groups. Can you tell me in addition to Mandarin, what other languages can promote communication among 56 ethnic groups?

[@MsStar266]

集结者 Yes, it is ridiculous since within Chinese itself there are so many dialects which could be considered different languages. Yet those dialects are also widely spoken in different parts of the country... The Western media just tries to pretend they know about China and Chinese culture and heritage but they know very little.

[@liujiangogogo]

The funny part of this video is, even before Daniel start to destroy him with some common sense, he has already destroyed himself with illogical nonsense, got his tongue twisted.

[@time2go465]

Good on everyone for being able to organise this interview. Good faith discussions need to be done more. Daniel's done a good job of being objective and respectful, and I think that's something that's important to maintain no matter who we are talking to. It's a good personal principle in general.

[@kimlyezhuang5688]

There are 25,000 mosques and 29,000 imams, as interviewed in CGTN. Did you see it?