I bought a bunch of antique spears online. But when I received them, they were all missing their spear heads. I got shafted.
@Riseofziggy8 ай бұрын
😂
@bobby53598 ай бұрын
🤣
@Peak_Aussieman8 ай бұрын
Ho! Ho! Ho! Jolly good.
@chuckchan41278 ай бұрын
I THROW MY POMMEL AT YOUR BAD JOKE
@SebaztienHawke-ci5hm8 ай бұрын
Awww…. I was invested in your cool spear collection, and then my imagination was crushed… uh, impaled.
@ImminDragon8 ай бұрын
Ah, but you're forgetting about the mini-spear. You know, the tiny one with the feathers on it that you would throw from a really long distance away with the help of a string and stick. That tiny spear was *very* deadly!
@Domarnett8 ай бұрын
But don’t forget, they also had a string and stick that threw full size spears… 😂🎉😂
@samuelurban61328 ай бұрын
There's also the atlatl, which doesn't need string.
@gehlesen5598 ай бұрын
The metal spears that fly around and fire hellfire missiles at the opponent are actually much better. I'll see myself out.
@tunaritoope20598 ай бұрын
I don't think arrows were actually really deadly in battlefield scenarios. If they would have been so deadly i think there had been armys equipped mainly with bows.
@MrGhosta58 ай бұрын
Would that make javelins small spears and pike big spears?
@darthcanadian8 ай бұрын
Halberd, spear with DLC
@brokeandtired8 ай бұрын
A medieval bill with a spike and a hook beats both....
@kevinmorrice8 ай бұрын
halberd is spear dlc spear is stick dlc
@spiffygonzales51608 ай бұрын
Stick is the dlc you have to buy with the stone dlc that you get from the raw materials expansion pack
@jamesmclean79838 ай бұрын
@@brokeandtired the Bill hook is the predecessor of the Halberd they use the same style of combat so it would mostly be up to the wielder
@TheSilverShadow178 ай бұрын
@@kevinmorriceSpear is the stick DLC that worked so well that it took thousands of years before they could come up with a counter for it
@Amoschp5248 ай бұрын
Where do halberds come from? When a Daddy Axe and Mommy Spear love each other a Blacksmith will deliver a baby Halberds on the doorstep.
@inthefade8 ай бұрын
I think it is obvious that the spear wears the pants and the battle axe...
@xxxlonewolf498 ай бұрын
You have that backwards 😜 It's Daddy spear and mommy ax...
@Amoschp5248 ай бұрын
@@inthefade What did Vikings wear?
@RachDarastrix28 ай бұрын
@@Amoschp524 Leopard skin.
@Amoschp5248 ай бұрын
I concede to your point but now the Axe can trap the spear with "Does this haft make me look fat?" @@RachDarastrix2
@ProcyonDei8 ай бұрын
All pole weapons: "Can I copy your homework?" Spear: "Sure, just change it to not make it obvious..."
@justjordan61478 ай бұрын
Ah yes it’s as if war didn’t have niggas TAKING THE WEAPONS THE ENEMY HAD AND IMPROVED THEN OR TOOK THEM APART AND ALL but I can’t tell if that era was true or not so when I get to the gate I’ll ask the angels 😊🙏🏾
@VainerCactus08 ай бұрын
Even the spear copied its homework from the pointy stick found lying around.
@qgqsrg18 ай бұрын
@@VainerCactus0 some would argue that pointy stick is already a spear, just a primitive one.
@VainerCactus08 ай бұрын
@@qgqsrg1 I would retort that a spear implies some work to improve the pointy stick, such as sharpening or hardening in some way. An unmodified pointy stick is not a spear until you begin the upgrade procedure.
@qgqsrg18 ай бұрын
@VainerCactus0 hmmm, could agree with the sharpening.
@ForestX778 ай бұрын
Shad+Nate= discussions and civil Shad+Nate+Tyranth= Goblin mode and a total enjoyment to watch seeing who can be the biggest dork.
@RDSk08 ай бұрын
Hear me out: what if the halberd and the spear were joined with a chain to create a polenunchucks
@revenantronin83778 ай бұрын
Popechucks😂
@arrgylerawrgyle37848 ай бұрын
Polechucks is the stupidest idea I have heard in a decade.
@alfiewilliams28528 ай бұрын
That's stupid and I love it.
@Ikworsu8 ай бұрын
I mean, it could be an interesting decoration to have. Nice ice breaker.
@erikjrn40808 ай бұрын
Absolutely devastating! You could wipe out an entire army, by equipping it with that!
@aaronbosen67438 ай бұрын
One of the big strengths of the spear that a lot of people forget is that it's a relatively cheap, relatively easily manufactured, easily maintained and repaired yet also extremely effective weapon that can be easily modified for your specific circumstances. A major part of the effectiveness of ranked spear or pikemen was the lengths of the weapon allowed troops with more specialized weapons to be easily intermixed into the ranks, including ironically, halberdiers. Pikes were great against calvary and infantry that failed to break past the up to 16 foot length of pikes for example. One vulnerability they did have was their length, but you could literally fix that by mixing in troops with other weapons, including yes, shorter, conventional spears as well as bows, swords, axes maces, more specialized polearms ect. A lot of times you can even use those troops equipped with shorter more maneuverable weapons to carry shields to help provide physical protection from arrows, stones, thrown javelins ect as a whole. That said, there's one area where halberds historically really excelled in over conventional spears that isn't often well known; and that's in defending a position from higher ground such as a hillside, parapet, ect. Halberds can be used pretty effectively to break or detach siege ladders, effectively move a line of infantry back, or obviously, do some devestating overhand cutting strikes pretty much directly onto the vulnerable heads, necks ect of advancing infantry or calvary. Conventional spears can do some of these things, just not nearly as well as the halberd.
@JoeStuffzAlt8 ай бұрын
The cheapness and ease of manufacture is a great point. Do you have 20 people with spears vs 10-15 people with halberds? If you need weapons yesterday, the spear has a fantastic advantage.
@ARabidPie8 ай бұрын
So, combined-arms warfare. History really is a circle, lol.
@flyingmonkeydeathsquadronc9688 ай бұрын
I've always took the halberd as a trained guardsman weapon while the spear makes for a solid field infantry weapon.
@kooolainebulger81178 ай бұрын
spears are the meat, and mixing in other weapons can range from spice to complimentary veggie pairings
@nuhrii34498 ай бұрын
i feel like spears are only good against people who care about getting stabbed, because how do you approach a spearline without taking heavy losses. its probably why spears fell out of favor when mail came around and general poleweapons like bills, becs, and why its also a crap weapon a against swarms of things that dont care, like zombies in got season 8, yeah you might get a few of them, but theyre rushing past the lethal point and thats not assuming theyre not shoving bodies into the shaft from climbing over each other
@lew5268 ай бұрын
"That's two dead idiots" (12:24). I love Nate's little moments of clarity. I also love how much of this video is a couple of big kids having a stick fight in the back yard. I'm looking forward to the halberd test. :D
@shawn68608 ай бұрын
Many other sword community channels talk about and show swords, but not other weapons. That's why this channel is a staple in my youtube subs. I get to see different types of weapons and how they might be used. Its not just a discussion or a look at some treatise that may or may not have been accurate. Keep up the great work, Shad and crew!
@CassieRoseX89X8 ай бұрын
Most just sit in a chair and talk 😅. These guys do it all, all kinds of weapons and theories about them. Really interesting stuff and they have fun, other channels can't compete in my opinion, this is the gold standard.
@krzysztofratajski92188 ай бұрын
Spear is king when you fight with no* armor . Halberd is king when armor comes in
@CosmicG7778 ай бұрын
But spear can go w/ shield. But if full plate is available, then I guess shield isn't as necessary and Halberd takes it at that point.
@baronhumus8488 ай бұрын
Spear could still be used against heavy armour
@DmSereb8 ай бұрын
@@CosmicG777if the spear goes with the shield it looses its fencing agility
@Watari_toppa8 ай бұрын
At the battles of Auray and Poitiers, Froissart writes that the dismounted French knights used shortened lances 5 feet long. Was this because the English infantry was less armored? However, the Gladiatoria group's manual describes several techniques for attacking opponents in plate armor with a spear.
@riptors97778 ай бұрын
@@Watari_toppa Spears never completly disapeared from the battlefields, so it makes sense that someone would write down how to use them against armor. Spears have just so many good points that make them attractive as a weapon of war. They are easy to procur and maintain, easy to train how to use them, very good in formations. So even in the age of fullplate armor spears where still relevant. Especially for lords with tight budgets XD
@inductivegrunt948 ай бұрын
Halbard is a spear too. It's a spear with an axe head on it. So you get two for the price of one.
@AlexSwanson-rw7cv8 ай бұрын
Different balance though, and easier for opponent to hook/trap.
@MrSirFluffy8 ай бұрын
You lose the ability to throw though, and also lose the poke speed. Halbard also can't be used with a shield as easily, using it 1 handed is much more difficult.
@psssshhh77308 ай бұрын
@@MrSirFluffy I mean, how well can you really throw with an 8 foot spear anyway? Javelins were small for a reason. Halberds were developed when armor was very advanced - and you usually want good armor over a shield. Bonus points for Halberd - you get langlets for extra durability.
@MrSirFluffy8 ай бұрын
@@psssshhh7730 Alot of cultures throw spears, javelins for olympic sport are a different thing. No one is gonna throw 50+ yards with a spear. It's more for semi-close quarters. Good shield doesn't exclude armor, it's not a one or the other type of thing. A spear plus shield is better than a halberd. Both can still have armor if they want.
@alanrickett25378 ай бұрын
All true but you gain the ability to smash a full plate knight in to the ground and can pull as will as push him off his horse.@@MrSirFluffy
@RaydeusMX8 ай бұрын
Partizan (spear) for sure, you can thrust in confined places, attack while having your shield up, and you get a wide attack with R2. And it's really good if you pair it with a great scythe for boss battles! ...Wait, what do you mean we aren't talking about Dark Souls here?
@schobii56438 ай бұрын
partizan moveset r2 is great, nice to have an attack that isnt a straight thrust
@roninkraut68738 ай бұрын
Now I’m going to have to upgrade the Partizan and give it a try…
@seafoam61198 ай бұрын
The stock halberd carried me through DaS1. Then I got the black knight halberd.
@TheXLink7 ай бұрын
I like the Gargoyle's Halberd a bit more. Those combo moves while two handing it is devastating. It just murders the forest covenant npc's. With that Halberd plus Sunlight blade miracle, you can cut through them all in seconds. It's my go to when I'm farming souls.
@Ekzanimus8 ай бұрын
I am really happy to see halberds and spears. I love swords. But it is really interesting to see another types of weapons - especially such as these.
@shawn68608 ай бұрын
Its why I watch this channel more. the variety of weapons shown is much more diverse.
@technoraize27158 ай бұрын
@@shawn6860 Yeah and they actually test the weapons out if they are really useful for what they were made for.
@Ace-Lee8 ай бұрын
The insane grins while sparring are the icing on the cake 😂
@ASmartCookie8 ай бұрын
no one talked about armor which is where the halberd shines cause its a pickaxe
@RustyDust1018 ай бұрын
There's a good reason why the Pope to this day uses Swiss Guards armed with halberds. To this day it is a vicious crowd control weapon in the hands of a well trained guard. It offered chances to hook into armor and dismount an armored knight, it had a sharp hardened spear tip for penetrating the vulnerable spots in armor, it has an angled axe head to deal devastating blows with huge leverage at long distances, it had the angled axe bladed as a cross guard to keep enemies at distance. The hardened, stengthened shaft made hacking through the shaft very difficult while not adding huge amounts of weight to this somewhat top heavy weapon. It does however require a lot more training to be used proficiently than a spear. It's production also requires quite a lot more skill, materials, and time.
@thekingofchange14288 ай бұрын
This. Halberd is a bodyguard weapon that can be used for crowd control very similar to a zweihander. Your ward can crouch down while you go helicopter mode, lol. You can actually find videos of bodyguard techniques with zweihanders, it looks sick
@samsammich84658 ай бұрын
Those halberds that the swiss guard carries are purely ceremonial. The swiss guards that actually mean business are carrying assault rifles, and they are all probably carrying a glock somewhere on their person.
@victrrrxxx15338 ай бұрын
The one handed lunch with a spear is hard to replicate with the heavier halberd. Also spear + shield...
@supersaiyandiclonius30568 ай бұрын
SPARTA!!!!
@ulfhedtyrsson8 ай бұрын
Damn those lunches!
@mericaman88778 ай бұрын
You might have a hard time holding onto that spear with one hand, especially when clashing with the weight of a halberd
@Maedhros0Bajar8 ай бұрын
@@mericaman8877 Macedonian shield? It allows you to still have 2 hands on the spear
@unknow117128 ай бұрын
they tested swords vs spear with shields , you would be surprised how harder to fight is with shields when wielding a spear . shields were a must vs other spears in formation , but on 1v1 against a sword you want to have 2 hands on that spear.
@McSpicyYT8 ай бұрын
Halberd is just spear+ (edit: lol shad literally calls it spear+ at 3:59)
@revenantronin83778 ай бұрын
Well put😂
@thedingleberrybush60768 ай бұрын
Spear+axe
@snatchy98378 ай бұрын
I'd argue it's more an Axe +
@jediknight12948 ай бұрын
Best combo is both for trapping on the Billine If you only have one in the line it's inferior
@arnijulian62418 ай бұрын
''Halberd is just spear+'' My my you are mistaken for the Partisan=Spear+. A Halberd came from the voulge in development & is just a Spear-axe. I recommend any reader check out my seperate thread though it is a tad long winded it cover a few branch's of the commonly argued 16 to 18 of Polearms though I say their are more at 21 but I do not hate myself enough to write them all down in order to explain them.
@bobbyhobs86698 ай бұрын
I think the biggest advantage the halberd has over the spear is against armor. I would assume the spear is pretty crap vs plate armor (and not just full plate armor, but brigantines etc), as where the halberd is specialized to deal with armor compared to the spear. I think that can also be shown historically as we see the move away from spears to other pole arms (halberds or halberds “like” weapons) with the advancement of armor. It’s also when armor begins to be reduced due to firearms that spears (pikes) begin to dominate again vs the halberd/halberd like pole arms.
@dilen7548 ай бұрын
On spear vs armor: yes, spear is somewhat weak against heavy armor, so it is possible reason for halberds and other polearms to become popular (though you can still choke it up, but then you sacrifice your primary advantage - length). Though I think that pikes became so popular not (or at least not only) because of reducing armor, but because pike is so much a superb weapon for a big infantry block. Facing a line of pikemen four men depth you receive so much hits, that impact alone can make you fall - I've seen it during XVI century recreations. And it is really good vs cavalry. We can see it, as pikes are becoming widespread from the middle/end of XV century onwards, though full armor was still very much in use at least untill the XVII century.
@ClintOrris8 ай бұрын
Needs more Shadlands content :( So wholesome and family friendly
@danorris52358 ай бұрын
I'm 6'2" and 250lbs, was in the infantry, and hunt/fish religiously. The reason I bring it up is I have a lit of experience carrying things around in case I need them. And I personally like to avoid anything that I even think would eventually seem pretty heavy at the end of the day. I promise a pound or two makes a hufe difference over time. If I'm ever in a situation where I would need a halberd over a spear, I'm near fully confident I can outrun, avoid, or outmaneuver my problem better if I'm not lugging a ton of junk for a "maybe" scenario when the spear is just as well, if not better, at the other situations. Sure, it is better against a well armored opponent(s), but in almost every other situation between the two the spear seems to be the more efficient option.
@nvelsen19758 ай бұрын
Except you don't run or maneuver and probably not avoid either; you'd be taking part in a battle, part of a unit. There's no space and it's probably not even allowed as you'd be in a formation. Also maybe, actually probably, you want the 'maybe', since if you move back you lose honour, and if you go forward and through you get to boast and suddenly all the hottest camp followers want to be in your tent. Shock infantry is typically quite indoctrinated, as they need to be to survive.
@danorris52358 ай бұрын
@@nvelsen1975 Most of combat isn't. Even in an ancient or modern context. Most of the time you're just demonstrating area denial and lugging all your equipment around. If I'm supposed to get into a melee because the enemy thinks it's productive, I'd rather have the lighter of the two pokey things, especially if the people by me all have them too. Maybe it's personal preference, but I can definitely jab a lot longer and faster with something lighter therefore fighting longer than something heavier.
@matthewhilty42098 ай бұрын
I am so glad Shad's health is looking up. A fired up Shad video is a fun treat especially after a hard Monday.
@PC.-_-8 ай бұрын
I think spear is better for ease of use, and then as proficiency rises, the halberd has more options which can add more value, but then beyond that spear seems like the highest ceiling since it can go for the most deadly option and trim all the fat so it has the highest likelihood. I think the difference would be if armor comes into play, spear can only really go for gaps in the armor, halberd or some other variation has more weight and such to deal with it
@adambielen89968 ай бұрын
The thing is that many Knights and Men-at-Arms did opt for the Spear when in full harness. So it obviously did very well in armored fighting.
@410colepyro38 ай бұрын
I was waiting so long for you to make the halberd video it's one of my favorite weapons
@afinoxi8 ай бұрын
We all know the best is the bec de corbin
@EnsignRedshirtRicky8 ай бұрын
The Long Bec has it's uses as well. The Giant Bec is just too OP. If we ever make a ranged Bec it is all over.
@thehurricane67678 ай бұрын
All that's missing is a bec launcher
@TheSilverShadow178 ай бұрын
The Bec de Corbin is the undisputed goat of multi-purpose medieval weaponry, because it can get through just about anything without hesitation.
@shawn68608 ай бұрын
Becy is a great girl.
@chrishakala5288 ай бұрын
Maybe, but I wouldn't want to rely on that unless I was wearing plate armor.
@shawnjones27728 ай бұрын
Just started watching you guys. Haven't stopped.
@DemianCorvus8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the hit editing. It makes everything much more easier to understand for us :D
@coffeez1595Ай бұрын
Halberds definitely has a lot of uses but is quite heavy on the end making it tire you out quite fast on a battlefield and more expensive to arm an army with while also being harder to use so therefore bombs are better.
@bradbrandon25068 ай бұрын
Ahhh I've been waiting for this video for years! I don't think you could've chosen better timing.
@shadowlessxpan7 ай бұрын
Shads videos are being recommended to me after months of no recommendations! Don’t give up Shad! I’m hoping this is happening to all viewers. ⚔️
@Dev05-fr5np8 ай бұрын
Everyone else: spear Me: d a b e c k
@burnSand9338 ай бұрын
you are definitely 13 or a 16 year old stuck in 2017-2018. Now to be fair, I am on a mediocre mood which could explain my upfront harshness. Enjoy.
@adoringfan19248 ай бұрын
Thanks for all the awesome videos !
@caedenkniep35288 ай бұрын
I really like the more combat oriented video style!
@QruisS8 ай бұрын
I was just thinking about this a few months ago and now the perfect video to listen in the background appears to remind me I never got an answer for it
@NerfThisBoardGames8 ай бұрын
Honestly just enjoying seeing you guys have fun
@TheOriginalSourceRPG8 ай бұрын
You guys rock! I'm literally eating any of your video to help me "adjust" some things in my own RPG. Keep the good work flowing ^^
@Extanglia8 ай бұрын
Kaladin Stormblessed says Spear
@tytar10378 ай бұрын
This content is so nerdy and I can’t get enough of it. I feel at home.
@Dovekeeper8 ай бұрын
Watching these makes me miss classical fencing and LARPing. But then my old joints remind me why I adopted different hobbies.
@MH-yp6wg3 ай бұрын
Unarmored: Spear Light Armor: Spear or Halberd, it could go both ways Plate Armor: Pollaxe BUT: Spear + Shield - works! Halberd + Shield? I don't think so...
@snatchy98378 ай бұрын
A face-off between the kings of the medieval European battlefield! Awesome, glad to see some of the old shad style content.
@EmeraldVideosNL7 ай бұрын
I love all Shadiversity videos!
@vbm71578 ай бұрын
Shad, love the videos.
@lordfamily91948 ай бұрын
i love the sound effects coming from our boy Shad lol
@TheNekofanatic8 ай бұрын
I love Shadiversity. You guys always make entertaining videos and look like you are (mostly) having fun doing it.
@Tyrs_Finox8 ай бұрын
As much as I have to respect the spear, I did notice that it didn't get as many stabbing hits, which are logically it's most effective type of hits. The Halberd has more options in hooking and chopping as well as stabbing, so it seems to me like the Halberd is better, albeit I'm not sure how damaging those strikes would be, they just seem like they'd be more damaging then similar strikes form the spear. Interesting food for thought though.
@Zmon35958 ай бұрын
Oh Man I have been waiting for this Exact thing it’s been on my mind it’s almost as if Shad and crew We’re reading my mind.🤔
@knowledgeispower97368 ай бұрын
Or maybe you're reading their minds 🤔
@BenKlassen17 ай бұрын
Thank you gents. I've always wondered about this.
@trock75428 ай бұрын
Love your videos!!
@embee74348 ай бұрын
Loved the red dots! Such a fun video.
@steelmongoose49568 ай бұрын
The true king was that weird throwy thing from The Beastmaster.
@Rensune8 ай бұрын
Krull You mean Krull
@steelmongoose49568 ай бұрын
@@Rensune No, the Krull thing was more of a frisbee. The Beastmaster thing is more a boomerang.
@SebaztienHawke-ci5hm8 ай бұрын
What, the radio control shurikan?? Yes, anything you can throw at someone from 50m away and then move around with your mind probably has a significant range advantage 😂
@DarioKalen_Kagenui8 ай бұрын
Great video and great combat. 👏🏻🔥
@classifiedveteran98798 ай бұрын
Historical question for you shad: if you guys can't train with properly weighted weapons _(no pressure)_ how'd they do it back then? Did they wail on each other with blunt weapons while in full armor? Or were they skilled enough to not hurt each other? _(A bit like how we did sparring when I was in Taekwondo, where we pull our punches and kicks, and not literally sidekick our partner in face as hard as we can.)_
@crusader52567 ай бұрын
I believe that tournements in the often had an armoured melee(seemingly in the high middle ages, I don't know whether it was popular in the late middle ages), from whence the sport of Buhurt comes(pretty much full contact fighting, no thrusts allowed).
@classifiedveteran98797 ай бұрын
@@crusader5256 interesting, I wish Shad could address this.
@Dead_Goat5 ай бұрын
wooden weapons, and blunted weapons.
@skylerstevens88878 ай бұрын
At the beginning I swear I was watching a planned conversation between two teachers for a stage performance lol
@genesis43228 ай бұрын
I would vote for the spear due to it being lighter and more maneuverable. Also the fact that pretty much everyone can pick one up and know how to use it.
@bradheasman47248 ай бұрын
my fav part of of ur series was vs mythical creatures coz no ones reallt done it properly id really love to see that again
@caedenkniep35288 ай бұрын
14:24 I like the way you plug your patron/YT membership ect
@migueljoserivera90308 ай бұрын
I love that you comented it on the video, the real "king of the weapons IN THE BATTLEFIELD" is the pike, the 6 to 10 meter pole with a spear head (for reference look up "the Rendition of Breda, Velázquez"). And also, that is what you find in the Renaissance and Barroque: The tercios and their analogues were formations of pikemen and riflemen and they ended the historical meaning of cavalry forever and were only relegated out of the battlefield by heavy artillery and better firearms with greater cadence and accuracy. Also, during that time the self-defense weapon of choice for many was the rapier, which was the perfect complement in close quarters when pikes were unusable (like storming a city or for policing).
@St._Michael8 ай бұрын
Spear plus sounds like Shad new streaming service haha
@shawnwolf59618 ай бұрын
I don't even care which one is functionally better, my favorite medieval weapon at all is a halberd. I ADORE Halberds, and I am glad to see you both giving it some attention!
@thehurricane67678 ай бұрын
"I caught it with my face" lol
@GaveMeGrace17 ай бұрын
That was fun-thank you.
@captainc0rgi8 ай бұрын
Bec de corbin tho?
@DragonboneWarhammer8 ай бұрын
Thank you for uploading.
@halbaloney45938 ай бұрын
Neither. Quarterstaff. Stick is king. Kneel before stick.
@voyomaypl16088 ай бұрын
The entire video is just two kids with sticks and some insightful commentary between fights. And I like it.
@criffermaclennan8 ай бұрын
The halberd is a Swiss army spear
@OfficialForteko8 ай бұрын
im watching a couple of toddlers have fun playing soldier thanks for the content i honestly learn quite alot from your videos most of the time and i get some entertainment out of it
@Peak_Aussieman8 ай бұрын
Halberds got more mass. SO you can't throw it as far, but then again when you throw a spear it's gone forever. If you're going to throw anything though what you'd want is a javelin I suppose.
@LizBlizzard8 ай бұрын
One thing I felt that wasn't really touched upon is armor. If two people are fighting unarmored, the extra agility of the spear has some use over the heavier weight and bulk of the halberd. But even gambeson already forces the spear-user to commit really hard to thrusts, and kinda does away with most cuts it could potentially inflict with slides and swings. The spear is still amazing against gambeson, don't get me wrong, but compared with a halberd, the advantage of agility is significantly diminished. Things only get worse with heavier armor. Maille, for example, makes the heavier blows of a halberd a whole lot more dangerous than anything a spear can offer, unless you get such a good stab in that it breaks the rings and pierces the padding underneath by a considerable amount. And the halberd can do exactly the same thing, with more mass behind the thrust...except it doesn't fully need to, since the swings are gonna be breaking bones either way. Plate, brigandine, and etc are much of the same. Even your best stabs are not gonna pierce it, so you'd have to hope you get lucky and slide your spear between the gaps. A halberd can not only do exactly the same thing, but it can also knock people off-balance with swings, even if it doesn't "dig into" the armor itself. Not to mention hooking their legs and tripping them, bashing their helmets, and all sorts of shenanigans.
@grantpflum68448 ай бұрын
Nate really did a number on Shad in this one. For a one on one weapon, the spear does seem to have a heck of a speed advantage.
@MrPancake7778 ай бұрын
I think it does. These were prop weapons so it wasn’t their real weight. If they had used real weapons in think the spear would have the speed speed advantage, even if slightly, which is massive for a fight,
@Flamewolf148 ай бұрын
I think spear needing less training makes it kind of like the crossbow where as the Halbert is like the long bow requiring more training. Though the speed is reversed the spear seems much quicker in the thrust and it's really hard for people to tell how fast something is moving at them when the shift is subtle that is why we have break lights on cars the perspective makes it difficult. If I were a lord fielding an army of less trained men spear because they can focus on formation and using the spear is easier. Now if I wanted an effective gaurd force or people were already good with spears I would want them to get more option with the Halbard, though if they are good with the spear should I chang it? Well the more options is nice ya know
@Fenrir55308 ай бұрын
The king of the battlefield is the ARTILLARY. Change my mind
@shawnwolf59618 ай бұрын
As an ex army guy, yes. I would not want to fuck with artillary.
@barelyasurvivor12578 ай бұрын
Ah another fun video TY.
@PlayerPaul2 ай бұрын
Billhook wins
@Ren995108 ай бұрын
Love the energy in the sparring guys. One thing I don't think is accounted for though is the weight of the weapons, and is actually a significant benefit to the Halberd. Depending on the strength of the attacker and defender, a halberd could just blow right through someone's guard. Granted it'd be much more likely if they were using a one handed weapon.
@a5cent8 ай бұрын
King? Clearly Nunchucks!
@CountZap26 күн бұрын
Realistically the fact that halberds were made and used in warfare means they are better than spears, at least in a few cases, since if they weren't they would just make a spear, less material with mostly the same drawbacks.
@andreas_rr8 ай бұрын
The king of the battlefield is the BOW. Change my mind.
@matthiuskoenig33788 ай бұрын
Patay
@mitch72358 ай бұрын
I agree! The bow was the king of pre-modern weapons!
@Riseofziggy8 ай бұрын
That’s what they said except the real king is catapult
@Extanglia8 ай бұрын
The king of the battlefield whoever does better with what they have. Skill, quality, numbers, tactics, timing, weather, environment, luck, courage, luck, reputation, luck.....
@RachDarastrix28 ай бұрын
My preference is throwing darts. I have a side quiver with 37 of them, which I throw. Once out I am close enough to then throw my javelins, which I have 7 of. Next I switch to my axe, and I have a sword and a dagger as backup weapons. What's that? You are going to try to shoot at me with your bow before I can? How rude, now I have to repair my shield.
@sharkchaos51608 ай бұрын
Great video.
@nk_33328 ай бұрын
Lineybiege already addressed how you carry your spear around. In two part, 1) walking stick with a hole drilled near the end, and 2) an odd dagger with a handle that happens to fit over the end of your walking stick. You instert the pin to hold the dagger on to the walking stick. A bit of wrapping can also be unwound to make it a staff sling.
@aaronnunavabizniz1998 ай бұрын
Spear with out a shield is a weird way to fight.
@cybernetic_crocodile84628 ай бұрын
Every weapon, which has axe in it is the superior one for me. Simply because axes kick ass.
@theaverageDon8 ай бұрын
Good stuff lads. We appreciate all the hard work y'all put into every video 🫡
@mikeoath95412 ай бұрын
I think t's fairly obvious that a halberd is the superior weapon. But it is also expensive and more energy intensive. Spearmen in a line can probably fight 3 times longer than someone with a halberd could. That weight just adds on. On the other hand I do think that a halberd would beat out basically every other polearm out there (though a glaive/swordstaff /naginata would do so well into it, reach is king), .
@DmSereb8 ай бұрын
an amazing trick i used to do with a halberd: a combat of formation against a formation, if i see before me a foe with a shield and decent armor and helmet (which you would expect to see on buhurt type games) i swing it upside down aiming at his head. options are as follows: 1)he receives a severe blow on the head and falls out of formation, 2) he blocks the strike with shield, i hook the shield and pull him out of formation, 3) he resists pulling out by pulling his shield onto himself, i instead push the axehead of the halberd onto his shoulder or visor, shoving him out of formation
@GamesGenerationVideo8 ай бұрын
Please talk about the Kudayari spear and kan style. It would be amazing! Love your videos
@themechnoob25848 ай бұрын
I love all Shadiversity videos!!!!
@joereed88728 ай бұрын
My two cents: you missed a pretty significant part of spear. With shorter spears, you can pretty easily use a shield. With longer spears, a Halberd will struggle to close in. Add on the lower cost to manufacture, spears are just better weapons. BUT! halberds are undeniably better tools. Spikes and ax heads are better for working through wood. Against armor, you have more viable targets. The ability to hook and bind gives better no lethal options. So for any guard, knight, or adventurer, a helberd will work better. Because you need not only a weapon but a tool.
@Ace0Spades178 ай бұрын
What about the bill hook? You got all of that with a more pronounced hook. Especially against an opponent with a shield. You get the spear and the hooking from the halberd. Plus depending on the design you can still basically have the blade of the axe if you put the blade below the hook. I don’t know what’s better because I’ve never trained with pole arms so I’ll leave it up to the people that have
@WinnipegKnightlyArts8 ай бұрын
I enjoy how much you're having doing larp fighting, despite the fact that this has nothing to do with how proper training weapons handle. Especially the growling, that is very nice.
@GuitarsRockForever8 ай бұрын
As a deadly weapon by itself, I go with Shad. As a part of weapon system (with shield), spear. In large formation, maybe spear.
@123FireSnake8 ай бұрын
Shad, I think you need to get a lucerne considering how much you like the Halbert and the Bec de Corbin. And yes, I think destroying the car door with it would be a good video :D
@TheUnluckyKnight7 ай бұрын
Shad’s attacking sounds are simultaneously scary and distractingly silly 😂😂😂
@EpicJasonX90008 ай бұрын
Seeing you two clash with these two long staff weapons makes me think of the fight between Robin Hood Vs Little John in Robin Hood: Men In Tights. XD
@klontjespap8 ай бұрын
gotta love the bec de corbin's destructive power though lol
@Thunderfro8 ай бұрын
The Poleaxe has crushing, cutting, and stabbing.
@Chamando118 ай бұрын
I once saw one of those large group mideval fight competitions. One team had a group of 5 or 6 halberdiers, and the repeated downward chops from the back line were absolutely devastating. I'm pretty sure a few people got carted off in an ambulance thanks to those halberd strikes.
@IL4NCER2 ай бұрын
No armor: Halberd can chop Light Armor: 50 / 50, spear stabs better but halberd has the beak Plate Armor: The meta is stab between the plates or have a polehammer, so the more nimble poke wins, the axe or beak are not ideal at all against plate As a bonus halberd has crowd control and works better as bodyguard weapon, spears can be used with a shield, thrown and are more cost effective I give it to the spear if its winged, it loses a lot of versatility if not