Special Forces Sniper Course

[@nosfed92gt]

Wow, it was SOTIC when I went through at FT Campbell, 5th SFG ran it. POI was out of Bragg still. Looks like some good improvements. I use to enjoy sustainment too. Great course! "Thou Shalt Kill"

[@drwnpadilla]

Being an Army Ranger back in 70s and to see what these guys could do today I have nothing on them wetsu.

[@ALB437]

No danger that a course might be attended by somebody badly intentioned in future? If you think about what happened shortly ago in Norway.

[@KillsWhoHacks]

What right did you have calling anyone a fraud, No one cares what you think about him or his service.

[@jfman22345]

You were an SF Sniper?

[@dumaznbum]

@Derhere No shit sherlock lol. But its still no less a competition... Train as you fight.

[@shrapmagnet]

no

[@Shortiesand40s]

No one cares about hte French foreign legion, btw almost every army in this world knows how to use laser guided weapons.

[@7071t6]

Yep all that PDA work, yet in the end they will forget how to shoot once that PDA is gone out of their hands, also if it was me, i would pick the top 10 rifles used in the world today, from the average rifle that a person could have in a war zone, and then ask any of those going through the coarse to test if they can hit those clay pigeons at 800 meters i bet they cant, because they get trained up with the most weapons platforms the usa has which is the .338, 7.62mm and .50 cal, what about a 5.56 or even better other countries version of those weapons like a AK47 and then try to pass the test with each of those top 10 weapons platforms used around the world ? also no PDA's at all, using your skill to pick out the weather, wind and total target length areas by eye and knowing the DOP of all the rifles i just mentioned and knowing those rifle like the back of your hand, if it can shoot at 800 meters, then it can kill you its as simple as that. I bet they do not ever train with other rifles to past the test or if they do, they are not going to tell you are they ? After all the Green CAPs were used to train others in the field as take over countries and start up wars full stop.

[@jacksonvance7404]

7071t6 those weapons don't hit at 800m

[@7071t6]

Yes they do, as snipers they need to hit moving target at those ranges for god sake ?

[@ryanchro7925]

7071t6 he's talking about the AK47 it's not going to hit at 800

[@legendaryj8757]

That makes no sense. You don't shoot accurately at 800 meters without an excellent rifle. Snipers have always had specially prepared rifles provided for them for as long as the specialization existed in the armed forces. Whether we're talking about the Russians selecting the top percentage of nagants for use by snipers, or America's sniper weapon systems. You need a high quality, high power rifle to make those shots, it doesn't matter how good you are, there are some things that aren't possible without the correct tools.

[@LordSStorm]

Jackson Vance I agree with the others here. SF still gets familiarization with non US weapons, but there should never be a need to use a foreign weapon for a sniper engagement unless you’re doing some black stuff. And if that was the case, they would train on the system prior to the mission. Finally, they still teach the basics because they know technology can and will fail. I guarantee any SFSC grad can shoot at those ranges without the technology. But as with any force multiplier, you will have a decrease in effectiveness.

[@dennism103]

I made friends with a retired e7 green beret and said at 57 years old he moves around like a 80 year old man had 777 jumps. His joints are in bad shape and he said he's not sure he would do it again? A very nice guy, not a boaster. Very humble.

[@maxgould2461]

5:00 Holy crap its Kevin Owens from field craft survival.

[@dumaznbum]

@lorenzanthony The USMC has always had the reputation for excellent snipers. In terms of competition though, the US Army has always produced some of the best snipers in the nation. Hell the US Army's record in the Annual International Sniper Competition speaks for itself and more often than not, the winners were NOT SOF.

[@sigspearthumb3249]

Sadly, the USMC recently killed off the Scout Sniper 0317 MOS about a year ago, and also ended the Scout Sniper Course. A VERY short-sighted decision. Fortunately, the USMC Recon community, perhaps sensing rhe writing on the wall, had instituted their own sniper course just before the Scout Sniper Course was killed off.

[@tyler4475]

4 inch clay pigeons at 800 meters?! Goddamn I don’t think I could ever be that accurate.

[@patriott3087]

40 hrs of training cut to 15 ??? That's good??? What about an EMP??? HOW THEY gonna figure out their firing solutions ??? Fundamentals...there ain't no shortcuts....turns out shooters that will come through when the chips are down... when the odds are against em'....... THESE GUYS DESERVE BETTER THAN THIS.......SHIT !

[@EdwinYee1]

I'm just here cause I heard of Kevin Owens is in this video from Fieldcraft Survival lol

[@MountaintravelerEddie]

This is a good video, these guys should extend the stalking because many failed that including me the first time around. I'm in the marine corps, but these guys got some good points and combined we work well together. SFC Gomez, saved our ass in Iraq when we went to our FFP in04. I'm now a crusty GySgt

[@nhairsoftteam]

I dont agree with shortening the Stalking excersises, but i gues they see combat is going urban but moving as a Sniper is critical but they have their reasons.

[@GryphonArmorer]

Talking about 400m being danger close, hell, 800m is danger close against a Marine Infantryman Rifle Expert with an M-16A2 Service Rifle running irons only. Let alone a sniper. A sniper going up against a Dragunov 800m is still danger close. That's part of the purpose for .338 Lapua, Barrett .416 and .50 BMG, is to start stretching the range out to 1,000-1,500m & up thereby making harder for an enemy combatant to match the shear stopping power at range and/or just the range alone. Come on, a good ole trusty Remington 700 with a 26" heavy barrel chambered in .308win will drop a fool at 1,000m all day long. I know, I had one and looking to put another one together soon.

[@supertrooper7403]

You talk too much. Shows everyone you lack of real knowledge

[@jianxiongRaven]

how cool to have special force , rangers and sniper tab together

[@jabber1990]

you can't wear a sniper tab though

[@KINGRODP]

@@jabber1990 Why not?

[@lucash2473]

I’m not positive but I believe that you are only able to wear two tabs at once

[@FIREBRAND38]

@@lucash2473 If you don't know don't guess.

[@FIREBRAND38]

@@KINGRODP Gee, maybe because it isn't actually authorized in Army uniform regulations AR 670-1.

[@rdsii64]

Army Special forces snipers, Marine Corps Scout snipers, These are the best marksmen in the world. I would hate to be one of Americas enemies knowing that there are shooters of this caliber gunning for me.

[@ereynolds1396]

hey s'ahnt; that's not a pillow it's a picatony rail

[@zarrazworldirenegodzown4700]

I want to be a sniper

[@dumaznbum]

Google "Special Operations Target Interdiction Course - Memorandum of Instruction" I've heard from an instructor that it's really hard to get into this course, even for personnel assigned to USASOC, so I'm guessing having the B4 sniper skill identifier would put you higher up on the list even though it's not stated among the prerequisites.

[@petion2013]

The Taliban hasn't been in existence for centuries. Thus, they couldn't have defeated everyone for centuries. You're confusing Afghan with Taliban.

[@Icix1]

Really, they're just getting around to using spotter technology? I'm surprised by that

[@Codypod]

Look at this now..:) it’s terrifying good buddy

[@reddog418]

Except in this video they're relying on a PDA to enhance their accuracy to targets beyond 800 meters. And that's not why SF doesn't rely on technology. It's because the forces they teach are often not nearly as equipped as we are and can't use what we use.

[@paulhetherington4382]

Context is the problem in every situation - because we is taught no "Absolutes." Already. First is last. Hence forgotten everything somehow before - even while not attending too - such teaching. I know my memory is by - absolute only - it cannot be random ever. The language is absolute already. Hence taught the same thing - is absolute.

[@kalif151byccrew]

the 2 dislikes was a marine scout sniper and his ego. 1000yd shot to pass that's bs

[@DJxIIxstep]

still have a gun, and everyone is still trained on the mathematical principles that the PDA uses. that an a EMP doesnt kill a Green Beret.

[@jeffmetcalf1749]

I did my SOTIC AT FT. DAVIS, PANAMA ÀND REAL JUNGLE TRAINING!!!

[@pdsmith11803]

So you added an extra week and now you work weekends? God for bid you work a weekend! Was that supposed to be a hardship? The Marine snipers cannot pass without hitting 1,000 yard targets without a Blackberry, how will you hit your targets if your PDA battery dies or an EMP goes off? Get back to the basics? Laughable. I would like to see ARMY snipers go through the USMC course and vise versa, who does better? If ARMY wins then I give much respect, this PDA shit is stupid.

[@kanguesso]

The Taliban have been doing it without NVG's for centuries, they have defeated every single foreign power that roamed the mountains of Afghanistan including the Russian Army and many of US Special Forces units. Why do you think it has taken over 10 years and over $600 billion in resources? The point is, at the end of the day, a good old fight simply comes down to the basics no matter what technology you have at your disposal. And i do love the US military above any.

[@htfcm]

Is Kevin Owens Irish? Sounds like an Irish accent to me.

[@supertrooper7403]

Yes

[@ALB437]

@504Resident - Could you proceed to tests before accepting people? I mean by that that kind of non-related questionaries left/right/left to sit somebody down, until you get a clear feeling that he knows what he's doing. Somebody could have all of a sudden certain intentions to straighten things in his manner, without having shown psychopatics behaviors in the past or be filed somewhere. Added to that comes the fact that he may be pushed into something by WEB sources.

[@Derhere]

@dumaznbum True competition is on the battlefield not a range.

[@brendaproffitt8520]

You have a lots training on different types weapons with scopes.. and versed with equivalent foreign weapons systems such as wide range of pistols to brownies high power colt and operation and tactical .thank you

[@brendaproffitt8520]

You have a lots training on different types weapons with scopes.. and versed with equivalent foreign weapons systems such as wide range of pistols to brownies high power colt and operation and tactical .thank you

[@ultimatewarrior4852]

I went thru in 2005. There was a guy that made his Gilley suit out of at least half poison ivy at least 5 times. His face would balloon up viciously. We called him peanut. Because his brain was the size of one.

[@cheesemonkey1990]

1000 yrds is still a long shot, but thanks for the clarification

[@ultimatewarrior4852]

Wow control your gear battle buddy. You shouldn't be able to slide a can of beans into your blouse cuff.

[@paulhetherington4382]

Hence - policy and license is learning opposites then - 100% opposite. Adversaryism.

[@predator1117]

More time training less time playing fuck fuck games. Students who actually learn something rather than earn a badge

[@olsryanr]

Are you a marine sniper? If you are, ignore this comment. If you aren't shut up.

[@CRC1770]

Working Saturday's and Sunday's!?!? What is the world coming to!?!?

[@cheesemonkey1990]

actually if you look at "surviving the cut Marine core sniper school" they have to shoot at 1,800 yards, which is a mile.

[@MrWolfengard]

That why Green Berets are trained to not rely on technology.

[@ereynolds1396]

poggie leg bbq

[@kalif151byccrew]

or else what i will get internet sniped? get a life

[@DreamDeeply37]

Its not a secret...it was on CNN. If it was, I would not have said it.

[@nullzor]

And what happens if you run out of batteries you are fucked lol

[@shrapmagnet]

no, actually tons of gear. You just don't lug it all into the FFP if you can help it.

[@ghostrider007ist]

That's the sounds of freedom...

[@schaelakhan]

This is an increase in the number of students shooting over 800meters. 40 students out of 40 that's amazing

[@nwoisnow]

@Annex2991 why?

[@504Resident]

@ALB437 theres always a risk of that, but theres not really much they can do to prevent that if a person has never shown signs of bad intentions or psychopathic behaviors

[@kokalol7]

get more info about special forces fitness and training at fmafocus.com awesome selection

[@shrapmagnet]

you dont understand what they are doing

[@curtis13450]

hooah

[@flyboymike111357]

John Fitzen, an ex-spec ops guy, has agreed with his friend's claim that airsoft is good practice. It basicly has most of the same mentalities and techniques. Regardless I recall the marine sniper school saying they disagree with shortening the stalk, and I trust them enough to take their opinon to heart.

[@jeremybear14]

@Annex2991 does much more damage not as expensive as .50 bgm and doesn't care if the target is wearing body armor good proposition

[@TLTL24631]

Gotta love the spotting scope with the PEQ-15 @4:37

[@MrWalkwaySc2]

I wish they didn't cost so much.

[@SEATown420]

@nullzor they are snipers so im guessing dont have that much gear.. so they would have extras and with technology today they can also use solar powered chargers.. Think about it its the army they are way advanced then us.

[@DreamDeeply37]

I'm not THAT stupid.

[@userste]

What is the difference between SF and regular sniper course (my internet is lagging so bad I can't watch the video).

[@yuvalandspeed]

what sniper rifle are they using?

[@coleyoung303]

I am really late but standard marine sniper rifle is be a m40a5

[@shrapmagnet]

All US sniper candidates are thoroughly screened

[@superdonkeyballs]

@nullzor You conserve. Snipers don't need to use it until they have to. When they run out of juice they have a portable battery recharger. If that gets spent then they go old school doing variables and calculations. Confidence is key... you have to save your countryman's life. They count on you.

[@blackriflex39]

i dare anyone to try and hit a clay at 800 yrds

[@Ansible2]

Finally there is video on this thanks for the insight.

[@shrapmagnet]

No, you also carry the basic relevant data on paper as a backup, which was the only method back when I went through training. Lol.

[@CrawdadRiverDog]

man, dope is going out the window

[@malikcaines3866]

Goals

[@1505PIR]

Graduated

[@dumaznbum]

The military is always changing, and technology is part of it. These SF sniper students are already accomplished snipers, They are going through this course to further their sniper tactics and earn that skill identifier and possibly a sniper position in their SF company/ oda. In the military we are taught that you must be proficient in fundamentals b/c technology can always fail you, But you are the most important tool. I have no doubt they can be just as lethal without the use of the pda.

[@FIREBRAND38]

"These SF sniper students are already accomplished snipers" Where the hell did you come up with that nonsense?

[@dumaznbum]

@@FIREBRAND38 Can you prove otherwise? The US Army Sniper Course =/= SOTIC SOTIC stands for Special Operations Target Interdiction Course. A couple of years ago, the course changed its name to the Special Forces Sniper Course

[@DOABadLuck]

Epic!

[@discofishing]

Is the normal sniper at Benning course a prerequisite for this course?

[@Mr.Ut21]

Being able to routinely hit targets out at 800yds is very very impressive/difficult. Being able to turn even the less gifted shooters into 800yd snipers is rediculous. as for the marine 1000yd shot comment to pass the school, that is absolute false. Look it up. There are even vids here on youtube that show the training for the school. There aren't targets set past 800 yds, and they are not tested for that far either. The marine corps is not the 'god of war' as so many people would believe.

[@jamesmitchell3496]

MARINES ARE LIARS THEY DONT DO HALF THE SHIT THEY TALK ABOUT

[@Napstar25]

OK buddy, I'd like to see you fight this War with no technology. Go roam the mountains of Afghan at night with no NVG's.

[@masonbush9179]

Better of not skated by in land nav! Its not impossible buddy

[@paulssweets5114]

Kevin Owens is irish , I understand before joining the u.s special forces . he was a member of the irish special forces

[@aaronduvall1075]

What! how? you can't have a dual citizenship in SF

[@paulssweets5114]

He must have become an American citizen .!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@skavanger408]

You can join the military for citizenship.

[@skavanger408]

brian lane nope, know some guys who got their citizenship while serving.

[@cheesemonkey1990]

you were a marine sniper? wow! I watched surviving the cut: Marine corps sniper school and they could do some very impressive shots. What is it like wearing the gilly suits?

[@martyr8688]

Boom.

[@kanguesso]

Exactly.

[@MultiMike1012]

neither do you...

[@ALB437]

And if you go back to the Ft Knox shooting it does not seems to request special skills to shoot at lots of people. Like in Norway.

[@ncstonecrew]

DOL4LIFE !!!

[@wingedspure]

@Annex2991 the army moved from the 7.62 to a .300win mag with the new remmington replacement rifle

[@chess747]

It's amazing,how all this information goes to the enemy,like China ect,I mean we like watching this,but I'm sure the enemy would be studying this also.

[@jfman22345]

I personally think your right and pdsmith11803 should actually read up on a subject before he whines about it on the INTERNET!

[@Edgardadproud]

very nice

[@Boon202]

What B/engine is in the PDA?

[@chasemckissick6142]

Atrag from accuracy first. Todd Hodnetts system

[@DreamDeeply37]

My boyfriend is in the Special Forces. He's currently deployed on a Jcet.

[@supertrooper7403]

OPSEC lady

[@kimmin1208]

@nullzor Setting aside manual calculation these guys are more than capable of doing, do you honestly think that they won't pack an extra set of batteries?

[@rekke41]

There's a lot trash on this video... specifically with the comparisons of USMC SS to SFSC. First the Army uses meters while the USMC uses yards... meaning that the comparison in maximum testing ranges would look more like 880 yards to 1000 yards. Second even if they deal with shorter ranges here they are shooting smaller targets. Not saying one is better than the other, but if you just have to compare the two please try to make an accurate comparison.

[@recipednb]

i wonder if you can get a facebook app on the pda?

[@GOWnH3best]

@nullzor they still know how to do the calculations the other way too

[@texasrangersr1]

are they using the AWM aka L96 or am i seeing things

[@petion2013]

Have you run out of your medications? Call your pharmacist

[@dumaznbum]

That's wassup!

[@ALB437]

Thanks

[@jennygore9833]

Watered down

[@lorenzanthony]

so how the hell is the usmc supposed to top the army now?

[@jamesmitchell3496]

THEY. CANT. THEY. NEVER. COULD USMC. IS A LOT IF. HYPE.

[@marcuspayne9744]

Vast majority of Jarheads I know are more mouth than anything else. Had em in my Airborne class at Benning and some of them struggled mightly and Airborne School is not even that hard compare to some of the other Army Schools.