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Through The Griffin Door

Through The Griffin Door

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@FenDweller13
@FenDweller13 16 күн бұрын
Yes!!! We need a full length in depth and very detailed What If Dudley Was a Wizard? series now!
@jenniedarling3710
@jenniedarling3710 17 күн бұрын
Everyone should get some time off for Christmas. It's good to see that Ben and J and taking a break.
@lightning7234
@lightning7234 17 күн бұрын
It’s hilarious to know that this random question was what spurred a 3 hour long what if series
@Jensen-C
@Jensen-C 16 күн бұрын
Yeah that commenter deserves like 2% royalty on the videos revenue or something 😂
@daphnegrace64
@daphnegrace64 17 күн бұрын
Ahhhh so cool to see the origin of the Ron in Hufflepuff series! I love watching you guys start to flesh out theories in real time
@nobodyfamousX
@nobodyfamousX 13 күн бұрын
That was great. It always like listening to conversations like this when you can tell they are actively writing a theory video as you listen.
@tannercalvert9718
@tannercalvert9718 17 күн бұрын
If Harry had been raised by the Weasley’s, he would have absolutely had been just like Bill
@EricKingOfScots
@EricKingOfScots 8 күн бұрын
SCB Try not to make every What-if about how Harry and Hermione end up together CHALLENGE. Difficulty level: IMPOSSIBLE
@spawn9892001
@spawn9892001 17 күн бұрын
I love the idea that dudley being the one who opens the chamber and is saved by Harry, that would allow dudley to start having his change of heart toward harry and maybe standing up to his parents and being the bridge for syltherin house
@triforceofcourage100
@triforceofcourage100 17 күн бұрын
How I picture it going for Dudley is he’s going to come in thinking he’s all that especially being one of the few muggle-borns in Slytherin. It won’t take long for Malfoy to single him out as a minion (clown) like Crabe and Goyle effectively tricking him for the whole year into thinking that doing a bunch of magically menial and embarrassing tasks will make Dudley the most powerful and best wizard ever. Reality will hit Dudley later when Harry tells him that nope what he’s doing won’t actually work and Dudley realizes that being MB in slytherin is an absolute joke and makes him the least respected person in his entire house. He tells Vernon and Petunia none of this and instead lies his parents of telling them that he won the house cup and that Harry only barely scrapped by because teachers owed Dudley a favor. They of course believe him and they are even more insufferable. Dudley becomes the perfect target for the riddle diary in year two and does show some actual improvement thanks to it but in exchange Tom does what he does. Harry saves his cousin and because of it that Dudley effectively makes his parents be nicer to Harry and even ends up blowing up aunt marge because of this.
@jaredwonnacott9732
@jaredwonnacott9732 17 күн бұрын
NO ONE, no matter how kind hearted, would be in the middle of raising twin toddlers and voluntarily say, "Let's do this again next year."
@Nerdnotwashere
@Nerdnotwashere 17 күн бұрын
My sister always wanted a big family and was so thankful that the twins came at the end of the line up. Those kids are adorable destoryers. 😂😂😂.
@riluna3695
@riluna3695 17 күн бұрын
I mean Molly's number one dream in life was to have a daughter, so she was determined to keep trying until she got there, no matter what else. Maybe she eventually would have found a limit and officially given up, but clearly that limit was not reached in the canon story.
@jaredwonnacott9732
@jaredwonnacott9732 17 күн бұрын
​@@riluna3695 Yeah, but she wouldn't adopt a baby boy. She definitely would be happy to keep having kids, but she just went through the terrible twos with the twins. Adopting Harry would mean a second pair of, essentially, twin boys just younger than the pair they already have. I know of one family with two sets of twins, and it's pretty brutal, despite being farther apart in age than Harry, Ron, Fred, and George.
@riluna3695
@riluna3695 17 күн бұрын
@@jaredwonnacott9732 Not denying the brutality of dealing with all of that, but it seems a bit much to say that no one would ever dare try, no matter the circumstances. That's my only real issue here. Someone always does the "thing no one would ever do".
@jaredwonnacott9732
@jaredwonnacott9732 16 күн бұрын
@@riluna3695 Yes, I was being hyperbolic. As someone that personally struggled with infertility for years, I can 100% say that there could have even been an alternate version of myself that would have jumped at the chance for another little boy despite having a little boy already and two older twin toddlers. I was mostly pointing out that, despite her kind nature, I don't think Molly would have been particularly open to another little boy at that particular time in her life. It was my silly way of pointing out that Fred and George were certainly a handful when they were little (even more than they are as they grow up), and it seems unlikely that Molly or Arthur would have been anxious to add yet ANOTHER little boy to the family when they already had three under the age of 4 and six total under the age of 12.
@pixywings
@pixywings 16 күн бұрын
I actually always liked the idea that Dudley has a magical child. Then he could contact Harry for advice on Wizarding things and their kids would be friends and attend school together.
@AustynSN
@AustynSN 16 күн бұрын
That was originally Rowling's plan in the epilogue, but she decided that "no magical blood could survive contact with Vernon's genetics" or some nonsense to that effect. (Needless to say, I agree with you.)
@pixywings
@pixywings 16 күн бұрын
@ I once read a fan fiction where Dudley had a magical daughter and it was absolutely adorable! It was only a super quick one page thing, but it was just too cute!
@lilpiper1234
@lilpiper1234 17 күн бұрын
I think yall are a bit hard on Oliver. Wizards seem to live longer than muggles, so quidditch players most likely have longer careers. He was put on the practice team as a new graduate, which is pretty normal for even real-world sports. Unless you are exceptional, you don't really join the team as a starter. We know Krum is on bulgaria's starting lineup, but he is also considered exceptionally talented, and even then, people were shocked he was still in school. Oliver is also considered a very good keeper, by Fred and George, but who would cheer for him when Harry Potter is on the field as a first year? Or getting attacked by a bludger and still catching the snitch? Or casting a patronus mid flight? Ron was cheered for, but Harry wasn't playing at all. Oliver is also one of 2 Hogwarts students who we know join a national team after school, which seems notable. Especially when puddlemore is the second highest ranked team in their league (per potter wiki). Note: Oliver is on the reserve team not the practice team, just checked. So he isn't on a team that is made just to practice against, he is literally a backup if something happens to the starting keeper.
@Notthatamber144
@Notthatamber144 17 күн бұрын
It's possible that Quidditch players have a longer career than those in the NBA or NFL who are considered elderly at 30. If there is less turnover
@alexandercharizard3617
@alexandercharizard3617 17 күн бұрын
Also the whole "Cheering for Ron" was started by the Slytherins as Mockery and only then later reclaimed by the Griffindors. I assume every player was cheered or boo-ed from time to time, but with Ron it's special circumstances, that's why it's mentioned so much
@failurenotsorry6600
@failurenotsorry6600 17 күн бұрын
yeah, this was recorded before the "scathing review of oliver wood" video
@lilpiper1234
@lilpiper1234 17 күн бұрын
@failurenotsorry6600 just rewatched that video and they seem to say the same stuff.
@PhilBagels
@PhilBagels 17 күн бұрын
Where are all the quidditch teams in the UK getting their players? It seems that at least 99% of UK wizards are educated at Hogwarts, so chances are ALL professional quidditch players are alumni. Unless British players are just really, really bad in general, so they recruit from other countries.
@adamrabe3105
@adamrabe3105 15 күн бұрын
Bless The Owlery and the great ideas that come from it.
@xxtinkerbell91xx
@xxtinkerbell91xx 17 күн бұрын
Oooh id definutely want you to explore the dudley one more. What would happen with being accused of using magic in 2 and 5 since theres not just Harry there!
@cathyestrada7360
@cathyestrada7360 17 күн бұрын
With all the holidays, I haven’t had time to fully watch any of the main channel’s videos or this channel’s. So when everything calms down I am going to have so much content 🥳 Thank you guys for gifting us this episode, yall are amazing❤
@wen.ye.y
@wen.ye.y 17 күн бұрын
Yesss to what if Dudley was a wizard!
@MJakes5
@MJakes5 17 күн бұрын
I believe they have already made a series about this.
@K9TheFirst1
@K9TheFirst1 17 күн бұрын
Oh my word. Dudley bringing Millicent home to meet his parents. That kind of cute.
@rhyllwalker8052
@rhyllwalker8052 17 күн бұрын
Millicent hates mudbloods
@robynhayward
@robynhayward 15 күн бұрын
Lol Ben looks like such a dad holding Gumps ☺️☺️
@keeferbigmick7943
@keeferbigmick7943 17 күн бұрын
Duddley and Neville become a comedy duo for the movie via Abbott and Costello.
@leumasecallaw6313
@leumasecallaw6313 17 күн бұрын
Dudley being the outcast slytherin and ending up friends with Neville after they both get picked on in potions and eventually Dudley standing up for and beating up someone who picked on Neville. This would be such a good pairing.
@carolynbrubaker1619
@carolynbrubaker1619 17 күн бұрын
Happy Holidays. Thanks for the peek into the owlery!
@leumasecallaw6313
@leumasecallaw6313 17 күн бұрын
These non chapter episodes should give a heads up the previous week. Always feels like a bit of a let down even if the replacement content is good.
@JamesScott-x9m
@JamesScott-x9m 17 күн бұрын
This…
@kristinmartin2899
@kristinmartin2899 17 күн бұрын
I think they ran out of time with the Christmas break :) it’s ok next week will be here before you know it :) luckily it’s the “what day is it” week before in Christmas and New Year
@NicholasKoeppel
@NicholasKoeppel 17 күн бұрын
I always assume something went wrong, or they want an extended vacation… a little heads up before hand though, would be a nice to do; for the community.
@abucket14
@abucket14 17 күн бұрын
I didn't even realize it was Sunday
@aliceepalermo5047
@aliceepalermo5047 17 күн бұрын
Sadly the SCBs don’t owe us anything. They deserve time off too!
@magu5273
@magu5273 16 күн бұрын
Now I want a whole series about Dudley in Hogwarts!
@Vetmed4032
@Vetmed4032 6 сағат бұрын
I'm a ravenclaw husband is a hufflepuff. We started reading the books to the kids during maternity leave. They're 10,7, and 6 yo. Oldest is a classic hufflepuff, middle is ravenclaw and the youngest is slytherin. The houses were obviously as infants and still hold true as they age.
@dylanmoore9042
@dylanmoore9042 16 күн бұрын
If Dudley went to Hogwarts and was in Slytherin I can see a world where Dudley becomes malfoys competition and finds his own goonies, and it inevitably forces draco to ally with the main trio for a little while, even though they all hate it. Enemy of my enemy vibes
@amandalongley808
@amandalongley808 15 күн бұрын
I want to see a "What if Hermione was in Ravenclaw?" series 😄
@DrRexie
@DrRexie 17 күн бұрын
That is a perfect name for a snowy owl I don't know why it's just so adorable and it's got so much meaning which is very much a good way to describe the snowy owl
@thestoryfactory8429
@thestoryfactory8429 17 күн бұрын
If Dudley tried to unseat Draco, he'd find himself in the same place Harry was with him and his muggle friends. Dudley wouldn't be accepted by Slytherin's pureblood families, and he certainly wouldn't have the social standing based on being a middle class kid. He'd be an outcast, and furious about it, because the more he tried to bully his way into the inner circle, the more he'd be locked out. Eleven year old Dudley didn't have the emotional stability to process that, or to adapt. It would be more likely that Dudley would end up in Hufflepuff for his own good, thanks to the hat, as he doesn't have the cunning for Slytherin, and the hat wouldn't subject a muggle-born with zero experience to that.
@gingersnap8543
@gingersnap8543 17 күн бұрын
@@thestoryfactory8429 yeah, that’s purely conjecture and not how the hat works at all. The hat takes your choice into account, but when it knows better it does what it wants. If the hat feels you belong somewhere, like Dudley definitely belongs in slytherin, then it’s putting you there whether you like it or not. We know this because Neville begged for hufflepuff and the hat put him in gryffindor. If the hat knows you belong somewhere it’s going to put you there, regardless of the political opinions of the students or the current political climate. If the sorting hat did care about political linings, it would’ve stopped sorting slytherins a long time before anyway, as it says to the school that division will be its undoing, and yet it continues to sort slytherins, the most divided of the four houses. Why? Because that’s its job, and it’s not going to not do its job Edit: also the driving force of a slytherin isn’t cunning, it’s ambition. It’s just that often times, the two go hand in hand. The extremely ambitious use cunning tactics to achieve their ambitions, and we know Dudley to be very ambitious and he does use cunning to achieve what he wants, like when talking about fighting people under his weight class but older than him to bolster his position in wrestling, as well as the multiple occasions where he manipulates his parents into being even meaner to Harry than they normally would
@rozhood4974
@rozhood4974 13 күн бұрын
I want this completely fleshed out! I want this whole story.
@n0msg4u
@n0msg4u 17 күн бұрын
13:03 omg! These guys should totally do a what if series where they answer some of these crazy questions! They could do a what if Harry was raised by the weasleys and Ron was in Hufflepuff!!!
@lkhai6243
@lkhai6243 17 күн бұрын
They literally just finished this. You should check it out.
@n0msg4u
@n0msg4u 17 күн бұрын
@lkhai6243 i know. I was trying to poke fun at them for pretending it was a fresh idea for them.
@lkhai6243
@lkhai6243 17 күн бұрын
@@n0msg4u Ohhhhh I get it now. Sorry🤗
@failurenotsorry6600
@failurenotsorry6600 17 күн бұрын
​@@n0msg4uthey weren't pretending lol, this is just way before what if ron was in hufflepuff
@JosephDavies
@JosephDavies 16 күн бұрын
@@failurenotsorry6600 Which makes it kinda silly to even bother posting this one now, really.
@J8922-o4v
@J8922-o4v 17 күн бұрын
I would like a what if of Dudley. I think it would be cool to follow that story
@keeferbigmick7943
@keeferbigmick7943 17 күн бұрын
Duddley would have the storyline of being harry worst enemy in year one, peace in two, friend by three, defends harry from Vernon's in four, loved brother by five, saves harry in 6, sacrifices his life to destroy a horcrux in 7.
@cameronclophus7998
@cameronclophus7998 17 күн бұрын
Well Marge insulted Lily's blood. And she's Petunia's sister. So Dudley could see it for what it is, an attack against his mom and cousin.
@ArtByDesign80
@ArtByDesign80 17 күн бұрын
Was this before they recorded What if Ron was in Hifflepuff?!?
@AthenianOwl237
@AthenianOwl237 17 күн бұрын
Yeah, they have got a few ideas from write-ins.
@gennag5637
@gennag5637 12 күн бұрын
I would love a What If Dudley Was A Wizard series!!
@AustynSN
@AustynSN 16 күн бұрын
I like the brother's previous comment about the twins having heard Oliver's speeches before in spite of Charlie being the captain before this year. Even though Charlie was Captain, Charlie just figured that if Oliver is so enthusiastic, let him do his speeches.
@bhavens9149
@bhavens9149 17 күн бұрын
If Dudley is in Slytherin does he still have the redemption arc, that is sadly mostly ignored in the movies. which is actually one of my favorite side stories.
@AthenianOwl237
@AthenianOwl237 17 күн бұрын
He should be in Hufflepuff with a redemption arc, slytherin would probably refuse to allow muggleborns.
@bhavens9149
@bhavens9149 17 күн бұрын
@@AthenianOwl237 Oddly I had a post "Deathly Hollows" thought in that same direction, even tho snape was slytherin and has a redemption arc,when Lily dies and then again at his own death, I wonder if it would stick? Didn't stop through teaching obviously with all the childish nastiness he showed his students? But did seem to stick with Dudley's Dementor encounter. So yeah he might actually have had a personality transplant if he'd had Hufflepuffs, like Cedric on his case all the time.
@KudaKeileon
@KudaKeileon 17 күн бұрын
@@AthenianOwl237 Pretty sure the students of Slytherin don't have the authority to reject a muggle born, and Snape probably wouldn't care.
@AustynSN
@AustynSN 16 күн бұрын
@@KudaKeileon Snape wouldn't care? I think that the fact that Dudley is Lilly's nephew would make him of *GREAT* interest to Snape in some way or another.
@KudaKeileon
@KudaKeileon 12 күн бұрын
@@AustynSN I meant in the sense of "Snape wouldn't care that a muggle-born is in Slytherin", obviously.
@deeannfleet2723
@deeannfleet2723 17 күн бұрын
Yes, def want a what if dudley was a wizard too
@6666Imperator
@6666Imperator 14 күн бұрын
Hey Guys, wanted to take this opportunity to give you a big thanks. I came to your main channel by chance with your theories and lied your positive auras in your videos! I love the chapter episodes of this channel, too and listen to them on my way to work usually. I totally understand why it was good for you to make this special episode even though some prefer the chapter ones. Hopefully you had a great Christmas and New Years time!
@NRUTOKINGDOM4143
@NRUTOKINGDOM4143 17 күн бұрын
I was just rewatching Ron and Hufflepuff now I'm kind of excited they're going to do a Dudley what if too. Cuz that's what it kinda sounded like
@Kristianxvx
@Kristianxvx 17 күн бұрын
see i find it so strange that (from my memory) harry is never told his parents die on 31st october, so he never even gets to acknowledge there anniversary every year.
@cerinryder
@cerinryder 17 күн бұрын
I think that's because it's quite like that Vernon and Petunia wouldn't of told Harry when his parents were murder if you go off the car crash story so he'd probably hadn't realised until his later teens before he knew the full details. But it is often hinted at in the early books that Harry longs for his mum and dad
@Kristianxvx
@Kristianxvx 17 күн бұрын
@cerinryder but Dumbledore, lupin and black know and just never tell harry anything. It's just a weird thing not to tell a kid, when his parents actually died, it's pretty messed up.
@loopylinguist7716
@loopylinguist7716 17 күн бұрын
I don’t know if anyone told him, but he does find out in Deathly Hallows. But he might have overheard during the conversation between Fudge and the teachers in PoA. I don’t remember.
@aetherius6221
@aetherius6221 12 күн бұрын
I think he knows this the first few times Dumbledore talks to Harry about voldemort. I believe I can recall Stephen Fry saying "on Halloween night, Voldemort came to your home intending to kill you."
@Beeenka
@Beeenka 16 күн бұрын
Aren't they normally multiple chapters ahead. Kinda weird
@53prime
@53prime 15 күн бұрын
Can we imagine a wizarding world where Draco and Dudders bridge the muggleborn-pureblood gap out of mutual hatred for Harry which ultimately leads to the downfall of Voldemort?
@M.T.F.B.W.Y.7621
@M.T.F.B.W.Y.7621 17 күн бұрын
This was great 👍😉! please do this more often.
@rodneyowens9918
@rodneyowens9918 17 күн бұрын
I was so looking forward to the episode this morning. What a bummer
@nathans9764
@nathans9764 13 күн бұрын
Ron not talking to Harry in Goblet is certainly not half the year. It's 3 1/2 weeks. Harry's name comes out of the goblet on Halloween, the first challenge is November 24.
@louisinjoliet8546
@louisinjoliet8546 15 күн бұрын
Dudley would be sorted into Hufflepuff! Remember, the sorting hat uses what you VALUE deep inside. Dudley does value friendship as evidenced by sending Harry greeting cards. Dudley does value hard work and dedication as evidenced by his boxing. He just was never able to explore them in a healthy way. That and the Hufflepuff common room is by the kitchens.
@lissaweers346
@lissaweers346 17 күн бұрын
thank you for the show
@jonasripplinger
@jonasripplinger 10 күн бұрын
To be honest, I'm having a bit of a hard time imagining Dudley to be sorted into Slytherin in the first place. We know how smart the Sorting Hat is and how he can look into all the students' minds, so he would clearly know that Dudley is muggle-born. I don't know whether there is another known case of a muggle-born in Slytherin, but I can hardly imagine it, considering Slytherin's posture on who they call mudbloods and blood traitors. So I definitely agree with you that this would make him stand out from the start, but instead of this fact making him special in a positive way and winning him some kind of recognition, I rather think that the other Slytherins would totally shun and reject him (in the best case) or even bully him for being a disgrace to Slytherin House (in the worst case) - just like Lucius tells Arthur the Weasleys are a disgrace to the Wizarding World in general. And I don't reckon that after 10 years of being pampered by his parents, Dudley could possibly have developed the skills to get over such treatment. I just imagine Draco saying: "Wait until my father hears that they have accepted a mudblood in Slytherin!" 😂😂😂
@BriarHollow
@BriarHollow 17 күн бұрын
The Dursleys being apart of the magical world also means they find out about Harry’s inheritance...
@PerovNigma
@PerovNigma 14 күн бұрын
44:14 reminds me of the _Astoria of Slytherin_ series by PerfidiouslySnatching. One of the main characters is Slytherin's first muggleborn student, whose first year at Hogwarts happens to be Harry's second. She gets bitten by the frustrated Basilisk when she interrupts its path to its next intended victim. The attack outs her as muggleborn, and students wonder if Slytherin's Monster only appeared because a muggleborn has been sorted into Slytherin, and if all the petrifications were just accidents as it tried to find her.
@tjmaraven
@tjmaraven 17 күн бұрын
Happy Holidays 🎉🎉🎉 Thanks for the extra content
@queenvictoria738
@queenvictoria738 16 күн бұрын
Dudley would one hundred percent be an obscurus for fear of loosing his parents’ love, and he’d be conflicted between wanting to open up to Harry more to be with somebody who understood him wanting to condemn Harry more to earn more “points” in his parents’ mind
@Jake-hw9kp
@Jake-hw9kp 17 күн бұрын
I can’t believe people are complaining about more content. Don’t be silly.
@AustynSN
@AustynSN 16 күн бұрын
As to the sorting hat taking in your own desires into consideration during the sorting ceremony, it's also good to remember that sometimes it will go against those desires. Case in point, Neville *begged* not to be put in Gryffindor. One theory I've heard that I kind of like is that if you ask for a house, no matter what house you ask for, the hat is likely to put you in Gryffindor just because you have the courage to ask.
@emmamccormick7882
@emmamccormick7882 4 күн бұрын
Pre-Patreon, (very early in the podcast) y’all had shared a Google form where we could submit questions/theory ideas. Did you ever take a look at the responses? 🤞
@Hive__
@Hive__ 16 күн бұрын
A good starting point, for Hermione to still play a role, while she is in Ravenclaw, maybe would be her growing up in Little Whinging and being Harry's only Childhood friend.
@CrossxFir3
@CrossxFir3 17 күн бұрын
Reminder that harry is like the youngest in his year. Ginny could be a few months younger for all we know
@simunjiii
@simunjiii 14 күн бұрын
Well if Ginny wouldn’t be the one opening the chamber I could see a world, where she joins the trio. I mean it looks like she always wanted to be a part of it and she wouldn’t be so shy and scared if not for the diary.
@justinmelton637
@justinmelton637 15 күн бұрын
I need the "What if Dudley was a wizard" series like yesterday. How do you think the dementor attack would have been different?
@jaredwonnacott9732
@jaredwonnacott9732 17 күн бұрын
Here's an important question for if Dudley was a wizard. Would there be an investigation into who performed the hovering charm at the beginning of book 2? For that matter, would Dudley have also been on trial because he too would have cast a patronous (or at least tried to) at the beginning of 6?
@OliviaGinn-c8e
@OliviaGinn-c8e 16 күн бұрын
I would love a video or video series cataloguing a fully flushed out version of the Harry Potter story that sees Harry raised by the Weasleys!! I’m especially interested since it would mean seeing who Harry ends up with when Ginny isn’t an appropriate option. I personally think that, even when Ginny is an appropriate option, he should end up with Luna, as I think her ability to go with the flow and accept/find goodness in the oddities of (most) everyone/everything would be a helpful and relaxing influence on Harry, who was abused by his relatives almost solely because he could possibly have been “odd” (i.e., a “freak”). However, Hermione is also a great option for him, and he is definitely a better option for her than Ron in pretty much all circumstances (though I think the best option for her is - in all ways and circumstances - one of the Weasley twins).
@kgregg9719
@kgregg9719 16 күн бұрын
I love the idea of Dudley being a wizard. I don't see him being sorted in Slytherin based on the ideology of Slytherin and the magic placed in the sorting hat. Dudley would definitely be a Hufflepuff because once he's away from his parents, his true self will shine more brightly
@keeferbigmick7943
@keeferbigmick7943 17 күн бұрын
Charlie was removed from quiditch when he got caught sneaking a dragon through the halls for Hagrid.
@AustynSN
@AustynSN 16 күн бұрын
Okay, this is a long one, but..... Regarding Dudley, I could actually see Dudley being a wizard leading to a divorce between Vernon and petunia. I think Vernon’s hatred of magic goes beyond his hatred of Harry. The two just kind of meld together to make him hate Harry even more. I think if Dudley was a wizard, Vernon would actually blame Petunia for “polluting their son” since her own sister was also a witch, so obviously the corruption comes from her side. (Of course, he’ll also still blame Harry for his part in the “corruption”) (Back when the series was still not fully released, my theory was that Dudley actually was a wizard, but that Petunia made a deal with Dumbledore to suppress his powers so Vernon wouldn't find out. This was before the reveal of her desire to go to Hogwarts herself was revealed as her actual secret or the existence of obscurials. Also, I figured Dudley's ability to control those around him was a subconscious but suppressed accidental use of something akin to the imperius curse.) I think that Dudley's house would have ended up being Hufflepuff. I think this because of the way he starts to treat Harry towards the end. After his encounter with a dementor, He finally staarted realize just how unfair Harry had been treated by his parents, even if he wasn't going to speak out against it to them. His attempts to treat Harry nicer than he had before start to show that he appreciates fairness; he was just raised by his parents with a warped sense of what was fair as far as Harry was concerned. And as far as hufflepuffs being hard-working, I think that Dudley is hard-working when given motivation and goal. That's how he became so good at boxing and lost as much weight as he did. He worked hard for that, but just not for the right reasons. As far as deadly becoming the sort of leader of Crabbe and Goyle, *absolutely not happening*. They would never follow a “filthy mudblood” like him. I also like the idea of Dudley being the one Harry has to rescue from the chamber. After all, I could see him becoming more and more depressed and turning to the diary if he has no friends at the school. Especially if he's in Slytherin (though I still disagree with that in the first place). Once Harry saves him from Riddle, I can see Dudley start to realize just how dangerous Harry’s life really is. This might also cause Petunia to be even harder on Harry, however, as she would likely blame Harry for Dudley being in danger in the first place. Then there’s the matter of the interaction with Aunt Marge. I don’t think Dudley would blow Marge up like Harry did. At worst, he might cause her sherry glass to explode like Harry did, maybe even the bottle. However, Dudley would likely stand against her to a very small degree, telling her that Harry saved his life (but without the details that it was by killing a giant snake with a murderous stare and preventing the spirit of an evil wizard’s child self from possessing him). The end of Prisoner of Azkaban, however would both a huge slap and a wakeup call to Dudley. When Harry IMMEDIATELY accepts Sirius’s offer, I think Dudley would be incredibly hurt by that. I can actually imagine Harry blowing up on Dudley, pointing out all of his (Dudley’s) parents’ abuse of Harry. I’d imagine the conversation including… Dudley: “Mom and Dad cared for you all those years and you…” Harry: “Cared? They shoved me in a closet. You call that care?” Dudley: “They provided for you…” Harry: “Provided? I didn’t even get a proper Christmas gift until I got them from Ron and Hermione and Hagrid and Mrs Weasley after we came to Hogwarts. Every year, I watched you open a stack of presents that reached to the ceiling. The only thing they gave me was a tissue or a toothpick or some other rubbish. They couldn’t even let me have peace in being ignored. They had to go out of their way to show how much they hated me. Provided? They _provided_ me with the endless knowledge of that hatred. At this point, I’d even have Sirius survive and be exonerated. However, Dumbledore would step in to prevent Harry’s moving in with Sirius, even explaining the bond of blood charm to him. However, Harry would then run away to live with Sirius anyways, making Harry and Dudley’s reunion at Hogwarts in Goblet of Fire even more tense. I'm too tired to think of how I'd do things from that point on. Maybe have Dudley be one of the rescues in the second task, but not for Harry. Maybe have him be Cedrick's rescue by having them be close like brothers as Harry and Ron are (though that would be too similar to the same events in "What if Ron was in Hufflepuff). Or, throw everybody for a loop by sparking a romance between him and Fleur. 🤪
@kristinmartin2899
@kristinmartin2899 17 күн бұрын
Good things come to those who wait but the next chapter is probably one of my favourites in the whole series. I’m grateful that this the week is the week between Christmas and New Year where everything blends so it’ll be here before I know it 😂
@diannepascolini2863
@diannepascolini2863 17 күн бұрын
How is this episode going to affect the tour chapters? Will every tour date be on the chapter before the one called out on the website?
@drVarulv
@drVarulv 17 күн бұрын
Since they're doing studio episodes and tour episodes i don't think it'll affect the tour chapters but I'm not an scb team member so this is just a guess
@jaziybabe
@jaziybabe 11 күн бұрын
Ok now you have to do a What if Dudley Went to Hogwarts series!!!
@42speedybeattie
@42speedybeattie 17 күн бұрын
Good morning dear listeners
@AustynSN
@AustynSN 16 күн бұрын
As far as the Weasleys taking in Harry, and using a secret keeper, I think you're thinking about it all wrong. I think Dumbledore can find a way to hide Harry's scar, and maybe change his hair color. Then, he becomes their wizard cousin who was abandoned by his Muggle relatives. (Not too far from the truth, really) Maybe he takes the pseudonym "Jerry (James+Harry) Weasley. In that case, either Molly, Arthur or Dumbledore would be the secret keeper to the fact that Jerry Weasley is actually Harry Potter. And it would not even be revealed until maybe at the sorting ceremony, unless you could get the sorting hat to go with his false name too. Heck, his siblings/cousins might not even know who he really is. Heck, even "Jerry Weasley" might not know that he's actually Harry Potter.
@keeferbigmick7943
@keeferbigmick7943 17 күн бұрын
When you do Hermione in ravenclaw make all three go to different houses so no one is in gryffindor.
@yasaminkheradmand1243
@yasaminkheradmand1243 15 күн бұрын
Guy's Charlie was 4 year's older than Percy, so he was 4 year's ahead of Oliver wood. So Oliver was a captain at his fourth year and twins were if fact had him as captain a year prior to Harry's first year
@christinabrock2893
@christinabrock2893 8 күн бұрын
What if Dumbledore had convinced Bill or Charlie Weasley to teach DADA in Harry's fifth year, instead of leaving the position open long enough for Fudge to appoint Umbridge?
@thecasualgamer5611
@thecasualgamer5611 17 күн бұрын
I thought Griffindor hadn't won the Quidditch cup in a couple of years, which means that Charlie was gone the year before they started.
@DearSis
@DearSis 17 күн бұрын
See I don’t foresee the Weasley’s raising Harry from that point. I see it as Dumbledore convincing McGonagal to leave Harry with the Dursley’s. Fast forward to Harry’s first year, Dumbledore realizes how malnourished Harry is but also how humble he is. Dumbledore also realizes that Harry quickly makes friends with the Weasley boy (which is a stroke of luck because that was one of the best families for Harry to learn from). As the year transpires I think that Dumbledore would be writing with Molly and Arthur about Ron and Harry’s friendship and they work out the details in the background. When the year ends Dumbledore approaches Harry and asks him if he would like to live with the Weasleys
@jacobshriver5699
@jacobshriver5699 17 күн бұрын
I don't think I've ever been this early
@pierce9128
@pierce9128 15 күн бұрын
We need the mcgonagh raised harry series
@piratemann5098
@piratemann5098 4 күн бұрын
Since Harry goes to live with the Weasley‘s, does petunia even know that her sister is dead
@GandolfKlown
@GandolfKlown 5 күн бұрын
Could they have called the Knight Bus to Hogsmeade as an alternate way of transport to the ministry, rather than thestrals?
@damiens4601
@damiens4601 15 күн бұрын
Disnt they already do a harry is raised by the weasleys what if?
@Cailus3542
@Cailus3542 17 күн бұрын
A note: the protection offered by sacrifice appears to be quite broad.and complex. While with Petunia or Dudley, or in the proximity of the house, nobody connected to Voldemort can find Harry, never mind attack him. They don't even have the address, despite having deep access to the Ministry, who do have the address. It's like a turbocharged Fidelius charm in that respect. Umbridge unknowingly finds the loophole, which is probably one reason why Dumbledore escorts Harry to the Burrow personally the following year When Harry sacrifices himself at the end, the extreme power of that maguc is diluted somewhat, but it still protects Hogwarts' defenders. This is why so many Death Eaters are defeated so rapidly. They cannot harm the defenders (Avada Kedavra is fun to theorise about), and so handicapped, they don't last long. Only Bellatrix and Voldemort have the extraordinary skill and power to defend themselves. Again, the magjc protects against all Death Eaters, not Voldemort alone.
@aniekdolstra4269
@aniekdolstra4269 16 күн бұрын
You HAVE to do what if Dudley was a wizard
@lindabroer8995
@lindabroer8995 17 күн бұрын
So you guys did a whole 'wat if' series based on the first question, when will you do a series about 'what if Dudley was a wizard'?
@devineasley2235
@devineasley2235 17 күн бұрын
Heyyyyy brother!! Phenomenal show I look forward to it every single Sunday!
@Kyamusuku
@Kyamusuku 17 күн бұрын
I’m sad there’s not a new chapter this week. But I love listening to these discussions and what ifs.
@xBoiko
@xBoiko 5 күн бұрын
No, you're right, a secret keeper is anyone who knows the location of the hidden place. So, everyone in the family would be secret keepers. All though, I don't understand why they could not have made James or Lilly the secret keeper for their home. If they stayed in their home, which is what they were supposed to be doing anyway, the secret would, in effect, be hidden too.
@kidceph8088
@kidceph8088 9 күн бұрын
When are we getting the Harry Potter Fanfic with the Ben and J OC's?!?!?!
@jaydennnnsmith
@jaydennnnsmith 17 күн бұрын
If you do one of these (a special episode or such) please please please do it on a different day and still give us our weekly chapter! This is the only podcast that I listen to that isn’t ending or over already so ending up with just videos like this is sad for me.
@simunjiii
@simunjiii 14 күн бұрын
I think based on the personality of Dudley he would be either in Slytherin or Gryffindor. Since Dudley would be sorted before Harry it makes me think if Dudley goes to Gryffindor maybe Harry wouldn’t be as opposed to joining Slytherin as a way of not being in the same house with Dudley. Maby he wouldn’t even meet Draco at Madam Malkins since he would drive there with the Dursleys.
@BradDiBenedetto
@BradDiBenedetto 15 күн бұрын
If Dudley was a wizard, Harry would get expelled because Dudley would do magic and the dursleys would blame it on Harry
@KudaKeileon
@KudaKeileon 12 күн бұрын
Pretty sure Dumbledore is too smart for that to work lol Harry is literally never in any danger of being expelled until book 5 where Dumbledore has to actively run damage control.
@moshegolubtchik
@moshegolubtchik 17 күн бұрын
Calling Draco “Magic Dudley” is easily the funniest thing I’ve heard all day
@raevalentine9002
@raevalentine9002 17 күн бұрын
Wait, does this mean that the chapters will change for the live shows? So Nashville will now get chapter 13!? The longest chapter In the book!
@Abbey_Layne
@Abbey_Layne 17 күн бұрын
I honestly think the “jumping off point “ for hermione in ravenclaw could be that hermione was born into a magical family. She would have had more access and understanding to the wizarding world.
@K9TheFirst1
@K9TheFirst1 17 күн бұрын
Or maybe a magic relative?
@Abbey_Layne
@Abbey_Layne 17 күн бұрын
@@K9TheFirst1 I think that would work too’
@Jensen-C
@Jensen-C 17 күн бұрын
That’s not a what if tho that’s just a new story. All changes would have to start and logically be able to trace back that initial change. Otherwise it’s just a completely new story and what a “what if (insert change) happened”
@riluna3695
@riluna3695 17 күн бұрын
The reason she's in Gryffindor is because as much as she's good with books and values knowledge and intelligence, she still values bravery more. What you need to do is find a domino you can push over that either tamps down her respect for bravery, or supercharges her respect for knowledge. The former most likely makes a better story, but any premise can be turned into a gem by a good enough author.
@DeejonLoy
@DeejonLoy 17 күн бұрын
I feel that the Dursleys would hate Harry even more because they pride themselves on Dudley being in all points "better" than Harry, but now that Dudley is part of the wizarding world, Harry is objectively better in all points than his peers, except for Hermione, plus he's a hero before attending Hogwarts, AND he's rich and from an long-established family.
@PerovNigma
@PerovNigma 15 күн бұрын
In regards to the second question, I recommend _yer a wizard, dudley_ by dirgewithoutmusic (as well as everything else dirge has written).
@Lord_Oberon3113
@Lord_Oberon3113 17 күн бұрын
J those Jordan’s are awesome
@Silver_Girl178
@Silver_Girl178 17 күн бұрын
Ron ends up being more like Malfoy when the rubber hits the road, so he would have gone into Slytherin, not Hufflepuff. Especially if he went into the sorting being bitterly angry or jealous after seeing Harry go into Gryffindor. He would have wanted the sort of "greatness" that Harry turns down when the hat is whispering into his ear. Side Note: do we think the sorting hat is something like Godric Gryffindor's Horcrux? I don't think he would have killed anyone to make it, but I can see him wanting to create something similar, with the energy from his own death, so that the school could continue.
@JC-xz4ec
@JC-xz4ec 15 күн бұрын
I get such a kick out of how adamant they are that Harry would have been in Slytherin if he didn't have anyone influencing his perception of the Houses. That just isn't the case. Yes, he absolutely has some Slytherin traits, but the overwhelming majority of his personality and beliefs align with Gryffindor. Just as Hermione is some Ravenclaw but primarily Gryffindor. True, the hat mentioned both houses and was considering both Slytherin and Gryffindor, but in fhe end he proves time and time again that he is one of the "true" Gryffindors. Still, don't change because its so fun to hear you both try and justify it. LOL.
@Goabnb94
@Goabnb94 17 күн бұрын
Harry requested Gryffindor because he only knew Ron compared to Draco. So it's entirely possible that with more knowledge of the wizarding world, Harry does not request Gryffindor and ends up in Slytherin
@failurenotsorry6600
@failurenotsorry6600 17 күн бұрын
harry never requested gryffindor, he just told the hat "not slytherin."
@samueldotson2809
@samueldotson2809 17 күн бұрын
14:39 her birthday is 8/11/81. She would’ve been 2 months
@jenniedarling3710
@jenniedarling3710 17 күн бұрын
Is this day month year? (the way dates are written in the UK,) Or month day year (the way dates are written in the USA).
@samueldotson2809
@samueldotson2809 17 күн бұрын
month day year
@kimgrod
@kimgrod 16 күн бұрын
If Dudley goes to Hogwarts, what if he’s the one that’s bullied? The Big D would be out of his element. Petunia may force D to stay at Hogwarts to live vicariously through him.
@Silver_Girl178
@Silver_Girl178 17 күн бұрын
Dudley would be the pawn in Slytherin. Malfoy would be his "friend" just to get information on Harry...but I think Dudley went into Hufflepuff in another video.
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