Spectre 16 Review: Why All The Hype?

The Spectre does not bring enough to the table at it's premium price
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► Timestamps
00:00 Intro
00:36 RTX 4050 Only
01:40 Heat You Feel
02:14 Fan Noise
02:20 Battery Life
02:53 Price
03:18 Other Factors
03:30 Conclusion
04:52 Outro
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[@JustJoshTech]

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[@ingjoseMLGomez]

Hey Josh. HP Release a new bios addressing performance for this. Would that change your conclusions about it? It's on sale at 1499 at the moment with 32 gigs of ram.

[@JustJoshTech]

@@ingjoseMLGomez It does not. It's just not worth it compared to the Yoga Pro 9i. The only reason to get it over that laptop is if you need that large screen tablet capability

[@ingjoseMLGomez]

@@JustJoshTech Nice! Thanks a lot for the swift answer.

[@FlosBlog]

I love how you can tell how Josh feels about the laptop just from the thumbnail. He really values your time :D

[@dominikgratz1664]

Have you also changed your opinion on the HP Spectre 14, then? Your review on that laptop was quite positive!

[@derekderekderek2]

I’d be interested in a review of the larger Samsung galaxy book 4 pro 360, even if it’s just a short with a quick overview of pros and cons, your impressions, etc

[@dmons24]

It's such a nice chanel. 16" Samsung - it would be nice to review.

[@javierandreiotaku]

Very good video, I love how you can give all the important information in such a short video.

[@daoanson]

Please do a video on the 16-inch Samsung Galaxy Book 4 Pro and the 360 2-in-1 version of the same laptop as well! Would love to hear your thoughts on the 16-inch offering from Samsung as well as which model between the regular one and the 360 2-in-1 version is best for which kind of user/use case

[@VladdyDaddy369]

I'll chime in really quickly since I ordered and had both at the same time. The regular is obviously not foldable and doesn't have the pen support. It is slightly lighter and felt thinner when holding both from the front. The 360 has two hinges which are visible when the laptop is closed. The regular has one long hinge which is completely hidden with lid closed and feels a little tighter which I liked. I was leaning towards the regular but for some reason all the edges on the regular are noticeably sharper than on the 360 where they are a little more rounded and smoother. I mean, it was really noticeable in my hands when pick it up especially the speaker cutouts at the bottom on both sudes as well as the bottom left and right corners with the lid open.... I ended up keeping the 360 (for now) until I find something similar with a better keyboard and less comicly-oversized trackpad. It has been great for media consumption and normal everyday use. Extremely quiet, I forget it even has fans. Edit: one thing about the keyboard, I really do like how the back lights only come through the keys and not around them.

[@daoanson]

@@VladdyDaddy369 I ended up choosing the 360! However, I’ve noticed a small nitpick issue about the Galaxy book 4 Pro 360 that can get annoying very quickly. The function key lock isn’t permanently on so you have to turn it on every single time you boot the computer on, so the volume and brightness controls on the function row aren’t on by default every time you boot the computer. Do you have any suggestions for keeping function lock permanently enabled?

[@VladdyDaddy369]

@@daoanson Yeah, I know what you mean, it's a little annoying. Haven't figured out a permanent lock, just need to do Fn + F12 after start up. Btw, under touchpad settings, you can choose the four-finger gesture for volume control, I feel that is way more convenient.

[@17teddybear17]

Hi Josh, what do you think of the Lenovo ThinkBook 13x? With its premium, light build and 3:2 display, it looks very appealing, especially with the Ultra 9. However, I am a little concerned about the thermals and the fan noise. Ale you planning to make a review abou it? Thank you for your videos, your opinion is the only one on youtube that I can trust.

[@motdanny]

I had no fan noise and no noticable keyboard temperature on mine. Returned it as the touchscreen stopped working after 2 weeks. The HP power settings software is awful (luckily for Asus someone created g helper) and the SSD isn't easily replaceable as the drive needs the HP partition on it to enable bios updates. It isn't a good device for streaming using moonlight and sunshine either as the higher than normal power limitations cause frame drops at native 120fps. The keyboard and trackpad were great as well. In short loads of issues but fan noise, temperature, keyboard and trackpad weren't in the list.

[@ciuwas1122]

I cant wait till yoga pro 9i be available in my country, couple retailers said that it will be only on july

[@eraditortv]

Hey Josh!!! Im so happy to see the book 4 pro 16 inch scores in these benchmarks. It indeed performs better than the 14 inch version. Will there be a review soon? I hope we get it. Because in India at least, it is the best value for money laptop u can buy compared to mac air or any others with the ultra 7 155h. Thanks a lot❤. Now that Ive seen ur benchmarks, ik its authentic and can buy it without a hassle. We dont have the x360 or the other ultra 7 laptops here in India like the xps.

[@in_sahne9037]

Hi Josh, what do you think of the yoga pro 7i? Is it too good to be true with rtx 4050 and ultra 7 considering the smaller formfactor? If the thermals ans fan noise are alright, it would be a pretty solid device. Especially if you prefer the slightly bigger 14.5" screen, no? Thanks for your videos, your opinion is the only one i can trust:)

[@JustJoshTech]

Can you send me a link to this laptop? Both Lenovo and I have been trying to get it and can't find it

[@VladdyDaddy369]

Thanks for the review Josh. I'm a light, casual user, currently use the GB4P 360 16", absolutely despise the trackpad and keyboard but really do enjoy everything else about it, especially the less reflective AMOLED screen and being able to use my tab S9 as the second screen. Intel Arc is plenty for me so I tried this HP laptop with Arc but it was only available with the IPS screen which was pretty bad. I wish I could have the GB4P 360 with the Spectre keyboard (no number pad). I keep on looking at Lenovo models but every one of their 16-inch models has the number pad which throws everything off center and just drives me crazy. I'm starting to think that maybe I would need to go down the 14-inch route to meet all the criteria but I really like the bigger screen size. Wondering if you have any thoughts. Thanks Edit: Really looking forward to seeing your opinion on the new Yoga Slim 7X in a few weeks.

[@andyH_England]

Yes, my Galaxy Book3 Pro 360 keyboard and trackpad are awful. People who get used to it or have never used alternatives may be okay, but when you have used a Macbook, it is prominent how bad Samsung has made these keyboards. As for numpads, I hate them. They add nothing to me and make me less productive. Samsung, give me a 16-inch with a Macbook layout. As you say, the Galaxy's screen is bliss, and the durability and quality are exceptional, but if you want to get work done and make it a pleasant experience, then the Book3 Pro360 has failed me, and I will be off this device until Samsung changes.

[@TURB0TIN0]

I am highly interested in the performance over time of the Galaxy Book 4 Pro 16. I have the first generation 13-inch version, and it is always overheating after like 4 hours.

[@LoupBlancEA]

Counterpoint: After looking at all the other options none offered what I needed: All day battery life for university, 16 inch because 14" laptops don't fit in my lap and I need a bigger screen for programming, a graphics card to game when traveling, and most importantly a decent pen to take notes for formulas and diagrams (no I can't keep up in a lecture using LaTeX). This is the perfect obsidian note taking & programming device with light gaming on the side. The sound is much better than the book 4 pro 360 (which has a glass screen that has a tendency to crack, look it up; I had to return it because the screen would bend when moving it with one hand, and they removed the ability to add Samsung care after the purchase on only their laptops, wonder why)

[@chrischan3448]

Do you work for HP ???

[@magnus9316]

Haha i had a gb 2 pro 360 and my screen indeed got a hairline crack. I got the spectre 14 bc i wanted a device that was thicker and felt sturdier

[@LoupBlancEA]

i just bought this laptop so I'm in the honeymoon phase I guess, downsides is the hinges will break, hp is unreliable, I got the extended warranty and will sell it before it expires ​@@chrischan3448

[@bryans8656]

Thanks for another honest review Josh.

[@crc-error-7968]

hello Josh, could you do a review of the new thinkpad?

[@liltee92407]

I just find it funny yall be praising lenovo pro 91 and I'm sending mines back bcuz it crashes when opening both lightroom and photoshop. But my old hp spectre still opens and don't crash.

[@YoutubeUniverse]

Can review the m4 ipad pro and compare it to the m2 cause u know the m4 is probably coming the MacBooks airs in the future and probably with 12gb ram base

[@JustJoshTech]

Yes!

[@dustydynasty802]

I’m in the market for a Laptop that specifically is a 2-1. I was about to get the HP Spectre 16 after watching your review on the 14, assuming screen size is the only difference. Is the 14 inch a better laptop in general? Is it less loud and hot compared to the 16? Keep in mind the 16 wouldn’t be with the 4050 so may be less loud.

[@user-np5dc3cp2b]

both are equally amazing, i have both. retuned both my yoga pro 9i 4060 mini led and ips 4050

[@Exotic-9780]

The Spectre 16 is just mediocre considering it's price you can grab the Yoga Pro 9i although not a 2 in 1 it's better in almost every regard it just has short battery life and the battery can drain if you fully stress it with the included 170W power adapter

[@user-np5dc3cp2b]

@@Exotic-9780 yep, josh says his laptop doesn't drain under load but he's the only person out there that I've heard

[@user-fr3uq1yk8u]

Guys which CPU should I go for? i5 12450HX i5 13420H

[@thirdnormalform]

Why are there not any Surface Laptop for business reviews on KZbin?

[@theodosisstavrou44]

Dear Josh, I really appreciate your review on this laptop. However, in the country where I reside (Italy) I'm able to find the 16-inch at the same price as the 14-inch one. On top of all, I'm a big fan of large screens. Would you still advise me to choose the 14-inch model over the 16''? Bear in mind that I'm a student and I truly value performance and longevity in a laptop, but my work is not super demanding. Please let me know because you opinion truly matters to me

[@freeudon]

Hello, I bought the 16" model a while back without dedicated graphics. I have noticed that the laptop gets warm when plugged in but it really doesn't bother me. If you don't need anything too demanding and you get the version that only has integrated graphics, I'm pretty sure that you won't experience most of the issues mentioned in the video. In that configuration, I would highly recommend the laptop as I think the screen, battery life, keyboard, and general user experience are all amazing.

[@theodosisstavrou44]

Thank you so much

[@joche92]

Can you please do the review of the 16 inch Samsung galaxy book 4 pro? Pretty please

[@stefdevs]

I am a bit jealous of the Pro 9i, but I value the tablet/drawing capability of the spectre, and the longer battery life when coding (light-weight text editing for many hours). One big L that's not mentioned is the lack of advanced optimus, which also means no nvidia NIS upscaling is not available for games with no DLSS like Helldivers 2.

[@JustJoshTech]

Thats a good point

[@user-np5dc3cp2b]

alot not mentioned here unfortunately, feel bad for someone watching this and write off the 2024 spectre lineup

[@JustJoshTech]

@@user-np5dc3cp2b Looking at what was written on our website (which I referred people to) and this video, what do you feel was missing... I'd like to update the website if we missed some things

[@nourkhoueiry6169]

nice, but you forgot the spectre is a 2 in 1, so what are some other 2 in 1 alternatives?

[@JustJoshTech]

We definitely didn't forget this. From speaking to several artists we have found the 16inch form factor isn't as popular as a tablet. So we didn't feel it was worthy of mentioning it. Do you want a 16inch laptop to draw on or would you go for a 14inch?

[@PreDaToReLeaSeD]

how can the "like to game on the side" recommendation be a macbook? am i missing something, i was going to upgrade my m1 pro but still no real selection of games last i checked, has something changed?

[@JustJoshTech]

I was referring to the Yoga Pro 9i for gaming on the side

[@PreDaToReLeaSeD]

@@JustJoshTech ok I must’ve misunderstood at 3:50 ish you recommended MacBook after mentioning gaming and my brain was trying to equate the two, all good

[@JustJoshTech]

@@PreDaToReLeaSeD I think... that I could have been clearer in the video. You aren't wrong to be confused

[@CPA003]

Funfact : This video used to be named "Spectre 16 review: There are clearly better options"

[@JustJoshTech]

Btw It is normal for KZbinrs to update titles and thumbnails post video publication. KZbinr is even trialing features to auto do this! The most important thing is that we deliver content that matches the title and thumbnail

[@CPA003]

@@JustJoshTech Oh yes I know that, I'm just pointing it out for others as a fun fact.

[@JustJoshTech]

@@CPA003 No probs at all. My bad!

[@RedBeardedRabbit]

I saw the Pro 9i at Costco and it looked like the display had big horizontal lines of burn in or something. Sigh... I had high hopes for this 16" miniLED panel but I guess I'll have to wait a few more years until I know for certain these things don't have issues.

[@user-np5dc3cp2b]

which country? they dont sell the yoga pro 9i in the US at costco

[@RedBeardedRabbit]

@@user-np5dc3cp2b Slim Pro 9i, same thing different name, right

[@user-np5dc3cp2b]

USBC charger at 140 watts is a huge win, battery drains on the lenovo yoga 9i while graphics intensive task with the included charger. did you test this?

[@JustJoshTech]

Yes, on both 4060 and 4070 variants. No battery drain. Graphics and CPU at max. Also, if this concerns you, I believe Lenovo will replace the charger free

[@user-np5dc3cp2b]

@@JustJoshTech ah yes so you know about the problem. And you must be the only one that isn't affected. The system can draw more than the included chargers output. Simple as that Josh

[@JustJoshTech]

​@@user-np5dc3cp2b Out of the 100 laptops we've tested this is one of the most minor issues. Just call Lenovo and they will send you the free 230 Watt charger.

[@JustJoshTech]

If we were able to recreate the issue we would have warned people about it. We do scour Reddit, laptop reviews, and read comments about the laptops. So yes we were aware of this about a month ago. We just can't recreate it, and since there is a very easy solution, we don't think its a showstopper to buying the laptop

[@AhmadQ.81]

Yes please do a review on the Glaxay 16 pro

[@ArjunMeyyappan]

Hi josh can you a review on pavilion 14 plus 14t-ew100

[@amrsalem7143]

Tx Josh

[@anmolshah]

Somehow comparing the 16C Macbook pro M3 max with the i7 models seems not right

[@faiyazsaqifkhansummit792]

Do one for Asus Vivobook S16 OLED (AMD)

[@Riyoe]

both hp and dell folded their flagship laptop this generation for some reason

[@josephle2381]

14 Spectre is good.

[@user-np5dc3cp2b]

@@josephle2381 both spectres are good, 14 and 16. lenovo is only good plugged into the wall with its big power adpater, also if you dont mind the battery draining while plugged in thanks to its underpowered adapter. and you cant charge full power on usbc, biggest fails ever

[@cameronbosch1213]

@josephle2381 Yeah, the 14 inch Spectre is really good; Josh did really like it. It's only the 16 inch model he's not really as much as a fan of. Unfortunately, I need dGPU support, so I went with Asus (sigh) and their ROG Flow x13.

[@InnocuousParadox]

Got the 14" $999 sale (630 off) + 60 tax for 16gb/1tb Thinking of returning and getting the 32gb/2tb for $1,399 sale (500 off) I don't think the extra 1TB and 16gb ram is worth $400 more, but I'll need it as a programmer. I think/hoping it's still strong pricing when compared to the rest of the market. If anyone has other suggestions, please share

[@user-np5dc3cp2b]

you will benefit from the extra ram. when using graphic intensive tasks ive seen the spectre use 20gb of ram

[@VladdyDaddy369]

That was a pretty slick deal last weekend, I was considering it before it sold out. What was holding me back is the size of the trackpad and not having good palm rejection. How has your experience been?

[@user-np5dc3cp2b]

@@VladdyDaddy369 lose alot of performance with 16gb ram. the igpu will max it out, ive seen the 32gb model use 20gb

[@da_volkov]

16 gigs just not enough for a developer

[@user-np5dc3cp2b]

@@da_volkov it really does gimp these core ultras

[@OluwaseyiOlushola]

Please do a video on the Samsung laptop sir, thank you very much

[@StashiaMass]

Hey Josh, when will you be reviewing Copilot PCs?

[@JustJoshTech]

Yes. They are out June 17, so reviews out late June. Real ones not hyped ones

[@iz723]

2:58 this delivery cracks me up

[@Jasuya]

i don't get it

[@dacrab1]

You miss one of the main points The others you recommend do not have pen sketch drawing capability…they are only touch screen when you get them with the needed dedicated graphics…that goes for the Samsung and the Yoga…I wish they did have the pen in their high end performance spec. So you have Microsoft Studio 2 and Hp spectra 16 if you wanted dedicated graphics and pen support Please tell I’m wrong…but that is from my research down many worm holes 😂

[@JustJoshTech]

That is fair and we are going to improve our negative reviews in future to highlight that. There are people who want such a device as you and it's not perfect but is as good as you get

[@avyuktsherawat3794]

Cinebench for yoga pro 9i is different in different videos not trustworthy

[@lotemk1651]

Can you do a video about the hp envy x360??

[@edwardspencer-EDS]

yes.

[@innosanto]

yeah I really wonder why it is not getting reviewed. I had the AMD version and was great except for the ludicrously bad screen of 62.5% sRGB and 300 nits and great glare which was reason to return. But apart from screen it was great laptop. If only for the display/

[@SudalaipandianJvs]

Kindly make the video for Samsung's book 4 edge (Snapdragon X Lite Processor) laptop launch date globally June 18? Kindly buy the laptop & make a unboxing (1st review) for your loyal long time subscriber.... 😅 Josh Sir ❤

[@farunjacob7450]

i like to see two video first Samsung Galaxy Book 4 Pro 16 and second is the best two in one laptop

[@korblox6603]

Thanks for this REALLY helpful video, Josh. I have been waiting for this review of this exact configuration of this model. Saved me a bunch of money and grief.

[@theworldoffun8997]

Yeah, it is bad as creator's laptop, but I wanna use that as a big 16 inch transformer for just $1599. Still cheaper than 16/1024 iPad Pro, lol

[@vancentyoube3718]

You guys gave an overwhemingly positive review for Omen Transcend 14. The intel Ultra 7 155H advertises it's clock speed to boost upto 4.6 GHz, but in Omen Transcend 14 it only boosts upto max 3.3 GHz along with reaching 98 c temps after which it throttles back to 3 GHz, 71 c. Now I know the power delivery is limited to 140 W, but i was atleast expecting it to boost to 3.6 / 3.8 GHz while maintaining 60-70 c temps. This processor is not even as good as the U series of i7 13th gen and amd ryen 7. It was a close to perfect laptop for me who wants to just do light gaming while i can take this portable laptop to work which requires better single core performance with atleast 3.5 GHz for smoother operation. I was close to make the purchase but thankfully i did'nt. It's just not worth the price. You can basically get Omen 16 Ryzen 9 7940HS along with rtx 4070 8 GB for the same price but not as better cooled or portable though. Bummer. HP should have just gone with AMD cpu ...

[@JustJoshTech]

Please understand these are very different laptops. In the Omen Transcend 14 space, it has a completely different set of problems and a completely different set of competitors. I hope i'm giving you the pros and cons of each so you can choose what is right for you too

[@wlifting]

Nice piece, Yoga pro 91 with rtx 4060 is now $1649 at best buy and rtx 4050 for $1499.

[@user-np5dc3cp2b]

dont get it, battery drains with included charger while using dedicated GPU. unbelievably bad power consumption as well thanks to lenovos optimization.

[@wlifting]

@@user-np5dc3cp2b battery drains on ALL pcs under those setting, so go with apple. But if you need a PC, then for $1500 on a rtx 4050 w 32 gb or $1650 of a rtx 4060 w 32 gb is a steal. dell is almost double of that with the same spec. BTW if you wont get 60 mpg on a toyota prius if you step on it all time time.

[@Exotic-9780]

@@user-np5dc3cp2b If you are that worried of battery life draining when stressing it get a 230W Lenovo power adapter

[@Exotic-9780]

@@user-np5dc3cp2b It only drains if you are completely stressing it and you can get a 230W Lenovo adapter if you are that worried about it

[@Just_a_random_birb]

@@user-np5dc3cp2b idk, I have Lenovo idepad pro 5 RTX 3060. it lasts around 7 hours normal use.

[@emikobong7022]

I think the hype is because it's all of the specs with a dedicated graphics in a 2-in-1. So it's great for artsts who want something to draw on like the surface pro, but who also like to game.

[@cameronbosch1213]

The only problem is that what's the alternative? The Asus ROG Flow x16 uses 13th gen Intel still and is the only competitor that's a 2 in 1. I got a 13 inch Asus ROG Flow x13 with 32 GB of RAM and an RTX 4070. Sure, it's only 40 watts, but that's more than the XPS 14! And its a nice 13.4 inch laptop, even with Zen 4! It runs Linux really well (as long as you don't use Ubuntu or Debian)!

[@JustJoshTech]

Yoga Pro 9i, or if you can afford it G16 with 4080 (Keep in mind the Spectre is extremely expensive), if you can hanlde the keyboard even the XPS 16

[@cameronbosch1213]

@@JustJoshTech And 2 in 1s with dGPUs? Oh right, only the Asus ROG Flow devices. Sorry, but there aren't any other 2 in 1 laptops with a dGPU except for Asus and this one. So that just leaves Asus... BTW, you never answered the question. I asked about _2 in 1_ competitors. I just did...

[@rgordon1351]

@@JustJoshTech Neither of which are 2 in 1s, the flow x16 and x13 and this laptop are the only 2 in 1s with dedicated graphics on the market right now.

[@cameronbosch1213]

@@rgordon1351 Exactly. I do think the Asus ROG Flow x16 is better, but it hasn't been updated to Meteor Lake (although it does have two slots upgradable RAM) but it is quite expensive. And the ASUS ROG Flow x13 is also great, but to get 32 GB of RAM, you're paying $2500 for that and the RTX 4070! That's a problem!

[@alfredoaraujo9294]

I wonder when they will refresh the flow series this year.

[@magnus9316]

I wish you talked a little about the 14 inch as well. I have that one since you recommended it and love it but i am wondering why your review is completely different on the 16 inch one.

[@JustJoshTech]

I like the 14 alot. That is a completely different device with different competitors. It is a very strong laptop

[@ayman.ibrahim]

What's the best screen on these laptops that not gonna have OLed burns?

[@JustJoshTech]

We are actually going to test if OLED burn in is a thing btw. We are testing it next week

[@Exotic-9780]

Laptops with OLED uses a S-stripe subpixel arrangement which is very resistant to burn in I wouldn't worry much about burn in

[@ayman.ibrahim]

@Exotic-9780 the reason I'm asking is the OLed really has bad reputation.

[@JustJoshTech]

@@ayman.ibrahim Yes, I agree. That's why I want to test it. Even if it breaks a laptop... we will do that for you guys ;)

[@andyH_England]

Take some precautions, and some OEMs have software to nullify this. Hopefully, OEMs will follow Apple, as when they tested Samsung OLED displays, they failed their tests. So Apple developed Tandem OLED (iPad Pro), two panes that effectively double the display's life. We should start seeing this on laptops (Dell may be the first). I would wait for that.

[@shamargayle1745]

please review gb4 16

[@Jacked2theTs]

Yeah, I wasn’t very impressed with HP’s specs for this model, either. Kind of bewildering they chose to do that with one of their more premium devices. But it is just another example of the “greed cycle”, the entire economy has been in. Pump out subpar product offerings, and charge a premium for them. 2024 is probably going to be a year to hold off on not only a laptop purchase, but any major purchase.

[@KellyWu04]

How is the 14” Spectre so good but the 16” so bad?

[@JustJoshTech]

Hi Kelly, completely different devices with different target audiences and more importantly... different competitors. The Spectre 14 compared with something lile a MacBook Air . The Spectre 16 compares more to something like a low end MacBook Pro 16

[@user-np5dc3cp2b]

also this laptop goes on sale every two weeks on best buy for $1650. thats what i paid

[@Ebenecel]

🎉 Came here to make Josh's mom very proud and to get inspired to do something awesome with my day!

[@innosanto]

yoga pro 9i is ultra9 this is ultra7, hence why the comparisons, and it has a better discrete gpu.

[@lionel_code2667]

So HP created a good 14'' spectre but decided to mess the 16''? Crazy OEM

[@nourkhoueiry6169]

galaxy book 4 pro review please.

[@gunit3333]

Hey Josh, do you still think the Spectre 14 is one of the better 14 in laptops on the market?

[@JustJoshTech]

Yes. This review doesn't affect that. That laptop targets different users and has very different competitors

[@gunit3333]

@@JustJoshTech Phew! I just bought the 14 inch based on your prior recommendations but was debating the 16 inch , thanks Josh!

[@camsmith7421]

Does he work for an opposition of HP !! ?

[@Gabdoon2]

you just want praise praise praise and to trap people into hot machine... Josh is actually one of the unique reviewers in YT community with Matthew Moniz... straight to the point

[@camsmith7421]

@@Gabdoon2 wow coool

[@MegaMijit]

thats sad bc i love the spectre aesthetic

[@user-np5dc3cp2b]

its so good, try for yourself

[@JT11111]

Day 2 of asking Josh if he would pay the extra and buy the ASUS Zephyrus G16 (4080) over the Legion 7i Gen 9

[@LacayoDe]

So the 14 is an amazing product and the spectre 16 is terrible?

[@JustJoshTech]

I know its nuts right. Please understand they are COMPLETELY different devices.

[@TransparentlyDuplicitous]

You can clearly see where HP spent all their effort *cough* Spectre x360 14 *cough*. I really wish companies didn't dilute their product brand names with bad products like this.

[@TheNeel555]

Lenovo Yoga Pro 9i.....mini led with high config....battery life is worst trust me.

[@user-np5dc3cp2b]

it was so bad, i even tried the ips version with 4050 and just as bad

[@Exotic-9780]

Battery life is the one main issue with that laptop

[@leonardwise5807]

Oh Josh, we should call this channel. The just buy the Lenovo Pro 9i and Mac Book Pro 16 channel. Look, all of this is just chatter until the new Snapdragon chips come out. Until we know how it actually performs on real computers, we should not be buying any of these computers. These new computers will destroy the Mac Book Air 15. As for video editing, let's try DaVinci Resole on the on the new Samsung Edge before making assumptions. I'm sure they would not be porting this to arm if they felt it couldn't handle it. And i know you will say it, but it doesn't have a separate GPU, but neither did the base m1 pro, and it did fine. It may have powerful encode/decode abilities. As for AAA gaming, buy a proper gaming computer, i.e., the G 16 4080 or higher. Look forward to your reviews of the upcoming Snapdragon machines. By the way my wife has the 16 inch 360 Samsung just turn down touchpad sensitivity and it won't be a problem.

[@JustJoshTech]

Yes, we will convert over to DaVinci for testing

[@andyH_England]

But in the here and now or for the last 4-6 months, the Lenovo and Macbook have been the best 16-inch laptops. As you say, the Galaxy Book Edge will be another choice, but that is still 18 days away. The problem with the X-Elite, and why you do not see single-core or GPU benchmarks, is that they are significantly worse than the M3 Pro (and Max, obviously). I see no reason why the MB Pro 16 M3 Pro will still be a better choice than the Book Edge, with good discounts by Apple at resellers (Amazon £270 off). A new M4 is coming soon (Q4), as well as new, improved Intel and AMD chips, so I would not get too excited by the X-Elite as it barely beats what is around now and will be easily trumped in Q4.

[@LearningAndGrowingInLife]

Thanks for keeping it real Josh. Insightful review.

[@decoy_121]

Hello

[@kylorokx1552]

I only trust bro for my next laptop. Waiting for X elite

[@vicity4585]

this is why i love this channel.

[@Watchandlearn91]

Josh is seriously underrated - he makes short and great videos and doesn't do clickbait nonsense. He also doesn't just spit out what companies want and actually reviews the laptops... That is probably why he has a lower subscriber count than channels that just do hyped up garbage and don't even review them.

[@JustJoshTech]

I appreciate that. Yes, we take a different approach.

[@ImranBogale]

Josh, I always like your reviews, but I think you're focusing too much on synthetic benchmarks. The 4050 is powerful enough for most users, including creators editing images and FHD to 4K video (lightly to medium, at least). The other quality-of-life benefits and upgrades are being ignored, like an excellent haptic trackpad, improved speakers, and chassis rigidity. However, the warmness and fan noise are correctly pointed out. I think we should encourage Windows OEMs moving in this direction after lagging behind for so long from Apple.

[@JustJoshTech]

I appreciate this but 1) We actually video edited on this laptop. It's performance was atrocious. Please keep in mind that we use these laptops for their intended use cases. 2) The haptic trackpad has significant palm rejection issues. Just being haptic does not make it ready for prime time. At the end of the day, when you use 100 laptops like we do, side by side... there are ones that just clearly stick out as winners and then others as loosers. This doesn't mean that the Spectre won't be perfect for some. Everyone's use case is different. But for the vast majority, there are better laptops for the price

[@ImranBogale]

@@JustJoshTech Understood. Wouldn't it be important to highlight those benefits as well, instead of highlighting the weaknesses and omitting the YoY improvements?

[@dev.k]

yeah i've never been a fan of the tuning on the larger spectres or the dell xps to an extent.

[@rosh70]

Tbh, I am disappointed with this review and to some extent JJ has lost credibility with me. Here's why - his review on the 14" is basically saying Spectre is the best laptop of 2024 and here, he's questioning all the hype - kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYmQg2Zuhbd6iLM These benchmarks like "Cinebench", etc don't really matter - what matters is how you use the laptop and how it is working for you. I have a HP Pavilion dv6 (old laptop) and till date it is working fabulously and has one of the best keyboards I've every typed on. So, yea - disappointed with Just Josh.

[@JustJoshTech]

You are spot on re our focus on real world use. In this review, the big issue is that we used it. This video's conclusions were not made due to benchmark results. They were made because we have all the 16inch laptops in. We used them all for real world tasks. The Spectre 16 was one of the weakest. Now... the Spectre 14 is a completely different device with different competitors. For example, it competes more closely to the MacBook Air or another laptop without dedicated graphics. The Spectre 16 though competes with ones with dedicated graphics. It's here where it falls apart. It is one of the hottest feeling (in real world use) and yet it's the least powerful. So yes. We do like the Spectre 14, alot. We do not feel the 16 is worth it. There are better options out there for most buyers.

[@cameronbosch1213]

Oh boy, here we go again; spam & porn bots in the comment section...

[@JustJoshTech]

I just deleted a ton. Are there more?

[@cameronbosch1213]

@@JustJoshTech There were three I saw. All had one of those generic "porn bot" profile pictures and were outputting unrelated comments. I reported all of them I saw. And KZbin hides most of my legitimate comments on some channels (not this one, but others), even without links... What the hell!?

[@naskokolev2307]

You said the 14 was your favourite laptop this year when you reviewed it. Now you say you didn't like it either. Am I missing something?

[@JustJoshTech]

Woah. The Spectre 14 and 16 are MASSIVELY different laptops with completely different competitors. The Spectre 14 competes with lightweight 14 inch laptops mainly for casual use. It is a very strong laptop to get and one of our favorites. The Spectre 16 has dedicated graphics and competes with 16inch laptops with dedicated graphics. It does NOT compete well here.

[@cameronbosch1213]

3:40 If you like to game on the side, do _not_ buy a Mac! Just don't!

[@JustJoshTech]

I was referring to the Yoga Pro 9i. I assume my audience knows that

[@andyH_England]

I am not sure too many people are buying the 16-inch Spectre 360 for gaming, and the same applies to that; if you take gaming seriously, do not buy this. So the Macbook is comparable with the Spectre as neither are gaming machines, the Mac because there are few games and the Spectre as its performance would disappoint.

[@cameronbosch1213]

@@andyH_England True, but when Asus can do something like that with the ROG Flow x16, it kind of makes you wonder why HP couldn't...

[@andyH_England]

@@cameronbosch1213 ... Yes it is strange. Maybe the 16-in version of the Spectre doesn't sell well so they just release one to cover that space?

[@1rich14]

I used to have an HP Spectre but GPU and motherboard burned out on me so I switched to a M3 pro mac and man, what are piece of machinery it is. I don't think I'll ever go back to HP.

[@reza310]

This man deserves way more subscribers.

[@ozermert26]

It's crazy how well HP did with the Spectre 14 this year, but the Spectre 16 is that bad.

[@JustJoshTech]

100%

[@enda0man]

First?

[@P777M33G]

This laptop sucks balls. It’s awful. JUST DONT. I’m glad this guys thumbnail gets straight to the point that it’s crap. DO NOT!

[@xmaverickhunterkx]

I don't know why HP is still around.

[@1vbAPiYk]

Boycott HP, it's a very hostile company especially in the printer market

[@a.j.haverkamp4023]

A black laptop will be scorching hot when you use it in the sun. In my opinion it doesn’t look very classy.

[@Just_a_random_birb]

Fingerprint magnet too.

[@chiefdenis]

It's nice to know hp still doesn't know how to make laptops, all is right with the world

[@I.C.Wiener-ep6bc]

Too bad you completely overlooked the fact that the HP is a 2 in 1 convertible laptop with a pen and a digitizer and all of your superior "competitive" devices aren't: How about you point out a device that is actually a viable alternative for those who desperately look for these features? The only comparable device I could find is the outlandishly overpriced Samsung Galaxy Book Pro 360, which doesn't even have a fu**ing 4050 for the same price as the HP.

[@JustJoshTech]

Although your tone was unpleasant, your message is legit. Yes, we are improving our negative reviews to sum up like you said. "We don't like it for X reason and feel most should buy something else. However, if you fit Y use case, this is a good buy"

[@kamm3021]

Disgusting

[@TheTastefulThickness]

I thought the webcam looks really nice actually