The Greatest METAL GUITAR recording trick I ever learned | SpectreSoundStudios TUTORIAL

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The Greatest METAL GUITAR recording trick I ever learned
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[@solarreturn7673]

watch the prices of crappy old behringer mixers rise after this lol

[@nicosanchez1980]

I have one of those listed, I won't sell it now, I'm going to try this xD

[@TheRealSlickRick63]

Solar Return.. That could happen, except nobody knows who this big old hippy woman is. She's huge and talks like a dude, but she loves metal. So, it's all good.

[@philzeo]

Forgot I had one of these. Cool.

[@sywartbrunsma343]

Thank god my friend bought me one thinking it was a usb mixer a few months ago

[@resistorstudios]

I have one a SL3242FX PRO . Everything works and we use it heavily for live and recording! It has a great sound. Even for country vocals. Lol

[@HowardTheDork]

Glen: "Warren, I'm in your debt". Warren: "Ok, then stop making fun of bass players" Glen: "no".

[@robbiedozier2840]

It’s really inspiring that you’ve been doing this for 20 years and you still aren’t above taking advice from other people in your industry. Keep on rocking Glenn!

[@falconpowerful2362]

Robbie Dozier, I totally agree. My motto is the day you stop trying to learn is the day you should give it up.

[@felipousismix]

You will never stop learning if you are willing to ;-) Cheers!

[@oiart]

Thats the key to this industry, you can always learn a few tricks from other people.

[@benjaminaustnesnarum3900]

The dangers of getting stuck in your own way are many. Just because something has worked for someone over 10, 20, 30, or 40 years, does not mean things can't be improved or simplified. Also, it's fun to learn new things! Those "Aah! I hadn't thought of that" or "I didn't know that!" moments are great.

[@MICKEYISLOWD]

Nobody knows it all. This applies to every industry. I worked in Plastic extrusions for 12 yrs and knew less than 5% of what is out there. We made custom profiles which requires yrs of experience to do my job however every yr things change with different technology coming and going so you never actually learn more and more. Now I own 2 window cleaning businesses but this is much simpler and I get 5 times the money I got before so I can hopefully retire before I am nearly 70 yrs old...lol which is going to be the retirement age in the UK most likely in the future. Either that or I can pay you to work for me so I can stay home playing my guitar and reading science literature on Climate Change..lol.

[@アーノルドアンドリュー]

To anyone who is unaware, this information is VERY valuable, and it's very nice of this dude to share it, because possessing this knowledge is key to how they make their living.

[@tombarnaby4842]

Question: Once you create the "tent" around the cab, how do you keep the bass player from camping out in it? Seriously - fantastic video! Other than avoiding analysis paralysis, what is the reason for mixing the two mic signals together at the behringer mixer? I'm surprised you wouldn't want to record both signals then mix them together with the rest of the instruments so you know how the tone would sit in the mix.

[@SpectreSoundStudios]

+Tom Barnaby the mixer adds a productive coloration to the guitar tone that a daw won't

[@terrydoylemusic]

Tom, the idea is to commit to the sound and as the other parts are put down, the musicians have an idea of what to play against. If you record everything generic, people won't be able to "vibe" to it and you leave all the work for the mixer, who probably wasn't even in the room.

[@nerdhound5891]

If you brought both signals into the Daw you could use Two AUX tracks and then set the output of those to an Audio track.

[@scoreofallthings4896]

I would imagine bass goes right through it. bass is pretty hard to stop. Only 4 inch thick fiberglass insulation can affect bass frequencies down to 60hz. anything lower would require a brick wall.

[@tombarnaby4842]

Thanks Glenn. Makes sense. Maybe someone will make a "Cheap Behringer Mixer" plugin to capture that coloration.

[@joeambly6807]

"It doesnt matter what gear you have" Plays through 4k guitar amp/cab....lol

[@allyhellkiller5535]

If you got V30's they will work in a milk crate.

[@Qevox]

It's true, check out my latest covers, I did them on 250$ guitar with this metod ;) It sounds incredible for me \m/.

[@chrisw5742]

@@Qevox Duuuude SIIICK guitar tone bro. SUBBED :-)

[@RealHomeRecording]

How come my Line 6 Spider didn't sound good with this technique?

[@dreadednaught7641]

RealHomeRecording.com cause it's a Line 6

[@Americantrecords]

Lol he doesn’t get the joke

[@Smung]

Woooosh

[@robconstant797]

RealHomeRecording.com well they don't have 2 speaker do they

[@BhargavaMan]

Because it doesn't have 2 speakers, dummy! Get another spider and mic it up!

[@BaenaCarcosa]

M A J E S T I C INTRO

[@KristianNowak]

first reply lol

[@jackobrien4613]

FAX

[@victoreijkhout8092]

"It forces you to make a decision right at the source, and not be left constantly tweaking after the fact". Amen. That's a great lesson.

[@monsterk7603]

Finally got everything to try this and BOOM! Amazing heavy bad assness on the first try. Thank you Glenn for sharing this awesome technique!

[@emirhanaykut128]

Best opening ever!

[@Psyfonify]

NOOOOO UUGHHHHHH

[@Psyfonify]

SteelShart and all other hair metal sucks ASS

[@emirhanaykut128]

Deathrape2001 And you are? 16 year old metal saviour. Grow up kid

[@emirhanaykut128]

Deathrape2001 kid you know shit get out of your diapers and grow up

[@scott.hanson]

Used Behringer mixers just went up in price 100%...

[@brianmcalpine3948]

Bought one today for 60$ so I guess they went up 33% lol

[@thomaskelly2040]

I had one of those...it was well made. Most Behringer stuff i have owned was sub par...not the mixer.

[@therealjackfisher]

No they did not. Behringer cant get up in price. PERIOD!

[@low_e_music]

They still come up pretty cheap. I got a Eurorack MX602a for $20 shipped on ebay. Works great.

[@johannsoncrusoe5589]

... or get any other cheap mixer affordable... it is not about behringer per se, but inexpensive preamps.

[@mranton5026]

Bassist here, can you tell me if I tied my shoes correctly?

[@JohnGauntSega32]

What gauge of shoestrings are you using? Are they flat or round?

[@dntinker]

Probably not, but that’s ok, let’s keep with the loop de loop method.

[@guitardudeguy3139]

Did you send the bunny through the Rabbit hole? Wait a minute!... You're wearing Velcro shoes...

[@NSG-Productions]

I don't have to look to tell you no. You are wearing slippers, Dumbass.

[@powdermnky007]

try boiling your shoestrings

[@drzontar]

I like the dark mic on it's own. But then, I'm a doom guitarist.

[@Donmegamuffin]

Glen, your hair headbanging intro can only be described as "fabulous". Loriel, because you're worth it… amarite?

[@Stefan-]

Its L'Oréal otherwise correct ;-) Its a funny intro !

[@VintageSG]

Imagine him breaking the surface of a limpid pool from underneath, in slo-mo, with golden-yellow PARs adding highlights to the ripples. Mind bleach not supplied.

[@PedalingPrince]

Yeah, I love that new opening! Pretty epic! 👍

[@Stefan-]

VintageSG HA ha, i read Nipples instead och Ripples the first time i read your post... wouldnt mind some of that mind bleach you were talking about now ...

[@lauscho]

Hey Glenn, best of luck on the shampoo sponsorship! :) imgur.com/a/TdJEB

[@anomitrobhowmik9853]

Was the intro a shampoo ad?

[@FoxWood]

Love the new intro!!!

[@VOYAGEUR-YT]

Very majestic

[@tennies]

Reminded me of a Pantene commercial

[@heavymetalmixer91]

So FASHION!

[@powdermnky007]

maybe its metal? maybe its maybelline?

[@timothymckane6362]

Much manly hair.

[@alvaroruizruiz7538]

Another good technique is, having the mics in phase, taking one as the principal, flip the polarity on the second or other mics and just bring it up until you get the most cancellation and then flip polarity again. That way you get everything at its fullest if that's what you want, instead of choosing darker or brighter (which you really do when choosing the principal mic), you just get full power. Hope it helps to someone, cheers.

[@chowdermonsterr]

Can you elaborate more on this? How do you flip polarity?

[@C0nnie]

would love to see you try and record some heavy, fuzzed out stoner/doom

[@thehandlesticks66]

I wanna see him mix a Model T

[@C0nnie]

ThomasRocksU id kill to own a beta lead or model t

[@freq9939]

Would love that too

[@C0nnie]

enle7es ever since he mentioned he owns a beta lead, I comment something like that every video

[@burntheeinsects6312]

C0nnie hey man I have a T and a beta lead, beta is for sale if you want to shoot me an offer. Send a pm

[@therevolution91]

You asked him straight out: “Tha fuuuck!?“ And he immediately understood.... 😂

[@ericellis2729]

Going for that Tim Horton's sponsorship ehh??

[@SpectreSoundStudios]

I wish!

[@xDXPxJOEx456x1]

Me to.

[@username92475]

SpectreSoundStudios one day

[@jiesus2596]

Haha first thought.

[@GrahamClarkBass]

Game of Thrones, Eh?

[@nicholash4525]

The problem with behringer products is that 60% of the time they work every time. :/

[@cdcb5918]

I like the new intro a lot

[@levioakerson276]

T'was a real wonder

[@MyGenSucks]

It made my day

[@krakulandia]

The technology has moved forward a lot since the 1960s. You get high end results with very cheap gear these days. Almost all modern preamps (even the extremely cheap ones on the cheapest mixers) are of super high quality. There is usually no audible difference in almost any of them when compared to dedicated multi-thousand dollar ones. There is no magic to the relatively simple preamp circuit. It’s cheap to design and manufacture really high quality ones, especially with modern electronics component tolerances. Gearslutz is to be blamed on making the preamp selection a religion. The cheapest preamps might have a little more hiss, but thats about it. I.e. they are not more muddy sounding. Another religion inside the recording industry is the audio interface quality: “I can definitely hear a difference between your $300 audio interface compared to my $3000 one.” No you can’t. The quality of the ADC/DAC chips and their amplification circuits (when comparing between the cheap and expensive ones) has been of so high quality for the past 10-15 years already, that the signal differences they produce are well below the capabilities of human hearing.

[@kubakesy6121]

thx man!

[@stevenrempel]

shhhh don't tell the gearsluts. I started investigating microphone building and I've have to say a similar thing about mics. Sometimes it's about breaking the rules you leanred in audio school haha ;)

[@jtubef8620]

While this is somewhat true, there isn't "no difference", between a vintage Neumann through an SSL vs. a B4 through an 18i20, for example. You can get great results, but don't try to tell me that they're the same quality and will sound essentially the same. They aren't and they won't.

[@mrcoatsworth429]

Huge difference between my old Behringer UMC and my new Audient interface. The Audient preamp is so much quieter.

[@ArcadeMusicTribute]

Dude - I've invested 2000 eur in 2x Neve 1073 preamp 10 years ago and I never looked back. It has been my working horse ever since and I never regreted the decision. I've liked Apis better on guitars but only slightly. You can use cheap preamps all you want and I believe you can get good results but I'll just stick with my Neve. I mean 2k is a lot of money but I've been using it for 10 years on all of my recordings and intend to use it forever and ever.

[@fleshtonegolem]

Glad you are getting mileage out of that "hair flip" comment! LMAO everytime

[@BLACKF1R3OFFICIAL]

Note to self: DON'T MIX WHILE WEARING HEADPHONES.

[@DriveCarToBar]

Old trick my dad taught me, I used for recording animal sounds back in a high school biology class when I didn't want ambient room noise, was to stick the SM58 on a stand and put it in a carboard box that something shipped in. Arrange the soft celled foam to remove any odd peaks or corners, and cover any cardboard and slide it right up to the cage. You can punch a hole in the cardboard to get your cable through, and shove it through the foam. Also works great for speaking parts. Mic in box on a table, and the speaker talks into it = no ambient room noise. Nice to have a parent who was a stagehand and could get gear to play with.

[@5urg3x]

For speaking the trick I've always done is put a blanket over your head and put the mic inside the blanket.

[@5urg3x]

Laugh all you want but it works very well, you can record voice tracks in your bedroom or living room and have them sound just as good as if they were recorded in a pro studio / vocal booth.

[@DragisaBoca]

8:31 Keep this in mind: "You're recording metal". Cheers to that! :D

[@ericellis2729]

On a serious note, I did something similar back in 2004. Two SM57s in varied positions on a 4x12 with Uhaul blankets slung over the cabinet and mics. Didn't mix before the software though. However, it produced a meatier tone than using one SM57. Just kinda stumbled upon the method trying to find a better tone. Cool video and as always, fuck off!

[@christiaanbezuidenhout6984]

I'm a drummer, but didn't understand what your t-shirt said?...

[@Soundtrack33VEVO]

Christiaan Bezuidenhout That’s the point

[@stockmarketsantaclaus1110]

The drummer is an idiot ,the bass man is a lazy idiot , lead guitar is a premadonna ,and auto tune vocals suck.... pretty sure that about sums it up even a drummer should understand.but on the bright side I wouldn't even try to explain if you said you played the bass guitar lol

[@Swampster70]

@@stockmarketsantaclaus1110 bright side? does that mean the drummer needs an SM57 up his ass?

[@wetalkinm4th-triphoplofida298]

That guitar tone was flawless! amazing! but damn your drums always "standout" in the mix ( in a good way)! keep the amazing work!

[@HydrillaTx]

So, where do the outputs from the Behringer mixer go into the interface/DAW, and do you pan them left and right?

[@m0th3rst4r]

you mix the two into one track. use a line input.

[@TrentCrawfordMusic]

That was gonna be my question... so you have to record them blended to get the effect? Or can you record both separately to a track each and blend in DAW?

[@mrcoatsworth429]

@@TrentCrawfordMusic yes, he's recording the blended guitar tones as one track. This is called analog summing (= blending signals together using analog gear). Some people think it sounds better than summing inside the daw, because of the subtle things that happen inside the analog equipment, like saturation, compression etc.

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

Hell yeah! Making a tight booth for my cabs is the best thing I ever did. I’ve been preaching the audix bass mic coupled with a dynamic mic for tight metal for ages. But I put the bass mic under the cab (it’s on casters) to get a room like sub and blend it in low vs the SM57. Obviously my sm57 is way closer to center to compensate/catch the mids/clarity. For modern metal put it closer obviously (to the grill), but IMO Guitars are getting TOO tight/prominent in metal and I treat the audix mic’s room reflection/sub woofyness like a REVERB track. It gives the vibe of a live recording because the bass mic picks up so much crazyness it keeps it interesting. IMO people are getting jaded with tight in your face eq curve of a Vintage 30/SM57 adnauseum, so the under the cab trick is working great for me. It’s similar to the effect of micing the back of an open back cab. OOMF! Berhinger raise their heads again? Sneap used to use those pres on old Testament.

[@jean-francoisrene5536]

The real question is: Garnier or L'Oréal?

[@denverrandy7143]

Loreal,cause he's worth it👍

[@ThunderBassistJay]

I've been using the exact same Behringer mixer for seven years already.

[@SevenSinsChoppers]

The NOISE 42157 dual recording mic clip would be perfect for this.

[@chrismonaut]

nice video. warren is such a nice guy man! always nice to see that the top producers are not half as snobby when it comes to gear than the average internet gear forum hero...

[@chrismonaut]

oh and a question: do you sum all that to mono in your daw or how did you do that? the mixer seems to send stereo?

[@SpectreSoundStudios]

+Chris Wacker you can pan to one side if you like, but it's mono down the center. Seemed cleanest.

[@MidlifeRenaissanceMan]

Chris Wacker I'll second Glenn's advice. I have been playing with the two mic trick. one on an open back combo and a second on a quad running off a slaved Bassman. I've tried splitting them in the pan by varying degrees, but it's most natural when they are panned identical in the mix. To be clear, I had two tracks on the DAW, and I summed them there. I haven't got the luxury of a sound booth. I have to evaluate after the fact Glenn, the secret with the Behringer pre is the transistors they use on the input. The chips are so so, but the differential amp input uses discrete components, well at least that is the case on the ADAT rack. Apparently they are some magic silicon which just works well.

[@lutboy2909]

of cource, behringer it puts care to its input circuits, I do not say that it is the great thing since for what it is worth not expect great quality, but in terms of quality / price are the best, I use a Xenyx X2442USB for events, and the truth it was fun to use 2 or 3 mic for the guitar line, the faithful sm57, a Peavey - Pvm 325y when it was not available the 325 used an sm58, all using the sm57 base, as far as the cabinet was used from classic marshall (jensse speakers ) until some home made the joke is, this console has a very noble pre-amplification stage, and works excellently to play with the tone of the amplifier

[@lpsdogolpsgoodtime1852]

So I noticed you have to wires at the eurorack's outputs. I know you don't have the Mics panned, so are you sending a stereo signal out of the eurorack into your interface? Or are you sending a mono signal?

[@zyxwfish]

It should be mono. Don’t know why he has it like that. Maybe just for this video.

[@headlesssoldier]

cool vid. I actually did all of these things he mentions just by instinct back in the day. my local band would track our stuff on blaceface adats, and take it to the old Smart Studios to mix. And a couple of the engineers there we're impressed by my guitar sounds. Then again, those guys weren't into those types of sounds. From whatever pre you use, I quickly discovered that high quality pre's didnt work as easily as a Bob Mackie cheapy. The thing about a distorted guitar is many times high quality mics and pre's expose the sound too much. They can really take the excitement and turn distorted sounds into generic oddities. And amps these days? in the late 80s you had to make a heavy sound. I used to mic the back of a Cab to get low mid thump (sort of worked) or used a BBE. Anything you could find to get that low end. Bill Lawrence pickups. all sorts of eqs in effects loops etc etc. anything. these days? lol. You can buy that sound from any of the popular ready made amps available. All you have to do is get it clear and your most of the way there. One thing I used to do...and I maybe crazy...but I would check the sound by panning it one side. When it sounded like a punchy, focused sound...as if the monitor were the amp itself...I knew I had it. Anway...Great channel.

[@CaseyCangelosi]

Glen, thanks so much -your videos are a total joy. I'm a classical percussionist teaching in higher-ed in Virginia, and I love everything you share. \m/ \m/

[@SpectreSoundStudios]

+CaseyCangelosi thanks!

[@SpectreSoundStudios]

+CaseyCangelosi my pleasure! Glad you found this useful

[@CaseyCangelosi]

:)

[@buffalowick8003]

What's up man Richmond, VA here.

[@Henriquealexps]

Do you think the blanket would help with the neighbors?

[@Smurfman256]

Sure, just use it to smother them in their sleep. No neighbors, no problem.

[@SpectreSoundStudios]

+Henrique Silva no. You need isolation. Better to build a cabinet "doghouse"

[@Henriquealexps]

Smurfman256 now thats the greatest trick ever! Haha

[@Henriquealexps]

SpectreSoundStudios Thanks! Also thank you for the great content!

[@tubo628]

They're moving blankets. You could help your neighbors move out of the neighborhood

[@Jesse19405]

Why does it sound different if the mics are summed in the mixer vs mixed in the DAW?

[@riffedwood5597]

Panama guitar cabinets have removable screens on the front for exactly this. They also have removable back panels

[@STRATOHOLICRichman]

Love my Panama Cab not for just this reason but it's a great feature. The D30 speakers (low mid accentuated V30 Clones) are fantastic, my Mesa/Boogie amps love them.

[@frantisekvtelensky820]

ENGL have those metal grills on guitar cabinets and on 90% combo amps fixed with screws. So you can easily remove those grills and after recording put those back. Great option! :)

[@STRATOHOLICRichman]

The brightest sound will always be when the grille is removed.

[@frantisekvtelensky820]

+Zachary Williams - Man, to be honest, I did not made any test, cuz I like the sound with grill ON, so I did not changed it. But I know, that some people like it when grill is removed. Not even on Engl cabinets/combo amps, but even on Mesa cabs, Marshalls, Orange etc. You know, different people, different preferences. And that's cool about music - options and diversity! :)

[@jdreyn85]

STRAT-O-HOLIC Richman I have my Laney irt60h going into my 212 dirty 30 panama cab, get some dirty nasty sounds

[@JHamzig]

Glenn, I applied this technique to my recordings, and my guitar sound improved significantly! It’s not the best guitar sound by any means. However, at least, it’s tolerable. In addition, I replaced my Peavey 5150 cab speakers with the current EVH speakers. This also improved the sound! Overall, it was expensive to modify and acquire equipment, but it paid dividends. I’m satisfied! Thank you! Much appreciated! PS-I love “Why Can’t This Be Love?” (The song, not the ‘speakers’ lol).

[@TheCIScommander]

Man, this is the best your mixes have ever sounded. With this guitar recording technique, the amazing new darkglass microtubes bass amp, and your already amazing sounding drums, everything has so much definition and girth to it. It's pretty awesome.

[@SpectreSoundStudios]

+Malcolm Bates Music thank you so much! It's all refinement & trying new things

[@yoe91]

Noob question: I've got a 5150 II and it sounds great but then I don't have a cab and I record through a Two Notes Captor through the USB soundcard and use the Two Notes cab sim software which is usually well rated. But I can't help but feel the real thing just sounds outright better. Can anyone with more experience confirm ?

[@scarlettaudio7424]

Hey Glen I’m Curious why did you use the 57 as the dark mic and not on the cone?

[@BillHesse]

I believe the idea is that the 57 pics up the mids and the tom mic adds the bass and treble.

[@alexanderhansen5452]

The high end would be over-accentuated by the SM57s hiss and fizziness if it was the bright mic. Similarly with the low end being accentuated by the tom mic, if it was used as the dark mic. Placing them in their contrasting positions helps tame those frequencies from sounding harsher, thus making the blend much easier without carving their EQs to fit.

[@danmeme7740]

What if I only have an amp with one speaker?

[@dcp10200]

The best guitar tone I captured was Hughes and Kettner Tubemeister 36 into a Recto 412 with a 57 and 421 in a sort of Fredman position through a 4 Channel Daking Pre. The 57 on it's own was pretty good sounding and would've been fine, but the 421 and the 57 together sounded amazing without the need for eq besides the obvious high pass and low pass to keep it out of the way of the bass and cymbals . I guess the 57 has a fairly pronounced proximity effect and that's what makes it sound good when it's right up on the source and the 421 balances that out as it has a bit of a presence peak at the top end, using a bright and a dark speaker also enhances those characteristics as well

[@joelonsdale]

SM57 pairs really nicely with a ribbon mic. I use the Cascade Fathead with my SM57 and just can't fail to get a full and impressive tone. I'll try my little Behringer mixer next time and get that blend early!

[@Hexspa]

Plot twist: pros use mackie

[@eefmydee1slideways]

Not going to lie, I have seen all of your "how to record metal guitar" videos and you definitely had pretty good ideas in your in your previous videos that I have tried and they worked great for me everytime. But this method that you have done here is one of the best metal guitar tones you have ever made with your channel. I will be looking into this mixers as well and rocking a dual mic setup.

[@ivtympanistam9903]

Please do a video on proper gain staging!

[@SpectreSoundStudios]

+IV Tympanistam thought I just did!

[@ivtympanistam9903]

No I mean for other instruments as well. Drums especially. I don't know how many times I've been sent files with the overheads and rooms clipping like crazy due to people running the mics too hot.

[@supermotorcat]

Do you mainly record heavy heavy stuff or do you ever record Queens of the Stone Age type stuff? Greatly mixing up different tones, almost like each track is a different little character lol. I like their sense of recording and mixing.

[@vincentmasterbassist6784]

Why does distortion sound like shit until its mixed with a full band? Then it sounds amazing

[@SpectreSoundStudios]

+Vincent master bassist that's what's important: how it works in a mix

[@user-po5bi6jb9g]

I thought you replied with bassists that's what matters

[@kirbsch8524]

ciaran fay same lol

[@noobpower96]

because of the lack of bass guitar most times.

[@pmw928]

Vincent master bassist Distorted guitars have the mids turned up to cut through the mix. When you already have the bass on the low end, you need the guitar to occupy a different tonal range, otherwise you have two instruments competing instead of complementing each other. It might sound a little thin on its own, but when the bass and drums are added in, you get the full range of sounds for the mix.

[@Paultreat]

Well, i got a Behringer for over 10 years now and I can tell all of you: It´s GREAT! Now I´ve got to get a 2nd mic and try it! Thank you so much Glen🙂!!

[@veerchasm1]

Behringer makes kick ass stuff, I could care less how cheap they are. Glenn, are you recording the 2 blended channels to single track or keeping them separate?

[@thekramer1097]

He blended them to a single track. Said it in the video

[@xxNeosxx]

He did a single track, anyway if you record multitrack is a nice experiment to check different combinations with the same recording guitar

[@annekecotrotsos3654]

Hi. Quick (silly?) question: If you mix the two signals together on the board, why are you going out of the mixer in stereo? Thank you for your time.

[@1Capnjazz]

Anneke Cotrotsos wondering the same thing.

[@exe4eye]

They aren't hard panned, so they mix together thru a stereo output

[@jontayyee3]

Also, how are you monitoring(listening to)what you are doing? Is the cab in a seperate room? Otherwise you would be hearing the cab & not the mixer through your monitors, right?

[@flyboymcgee8059]

The ART Studio V3 is a prime example of low cost, great value. Voicing options, tube swaps and a very responsive gain stage makes for lots of room to tweak it. Getting absolutely fantastic results with low cost mics and not-so-ideal acoustic environments

[@pyrael668]

My First good recordings were through an 802!! I used a cheap $10 Small Diaphragm condenser mic (Takstar PCM-6100), a Radio Shack # 33-128 Super-Cardiod, and a marshall 15w bass Practice amp on the "Classic" channel. Sat it under the cushions on the couch and shredded away, recording into an old windows XP PC with onboard audio to the line in on Cakewalk ProAudio 9!! A Long time ago, and certainly not a place I wish to return HAHA!! Now I run my mics (still have all those PCM6100s and RS mics tho) into a 24ch RAMSA and record on an HD24. It's amazing what you can do with the cheapest shit available!

[@stephenbaldassarre2289]

Steven Schwarz Back in my Mackie 1202 days, I used to record my guitarist's 10-Watt Park amp inside a small road case that was padded with foam.

[@williampryor9742]

Hey Glenn, do you normally use API preamps? I go to recording school where we are lucky enough to have two (soon to be 3) API consoles, the API preamps are amazing but I don't really have experience with much else, I've been spoiled in that way. Could you do a video just discussing the pros and cons of different preamps?

[@blu_sonic1861]

DAMN NICE VIDEO MAN

[@drewb8474]

I really like this tip. Especially because it takes a step away from the CONSTANT consumerism in music/recording circles.

[@jackmcbride9939]

V30’s are okay. Patriot Swamp Things, and Celestion G12’s tho 👌

[@OuthouseRecords]

I ended up buying a Behringer 802 and an Audix D2 from the links you provided to try this out, as Guitars are the one thing in the studio I've never been totally happy with. While i'm still very excited to give this a shot, it's worth mentioning that there were a ton of surprise shipping fees (to Canada), and the 802 didn't come with a north american plug. This "super cheap" mixer is starting to get pricier.

[@burningempire666]

Really can't stand that thin metallic, scrapy tone that is so popular nowadays

[@jaychen2000metal]

Charles Ayala which is why he doesn't like Line 6

[@fredriksvard2603]

I like the scooped mids that everyone rips on for getting ”lost in the mix” (lol)

[@3101max]

i think the periphery guitar tone is pretty much the best out there right now....for any genre.. just so aggressive and clear and beautiful at the same time

[@jaychen2000metal]

Nah, listen to Volturyon. That is some crushing metal tone. Periphery is too sharp and dry

[@ArcadeMusicTribute]

Well it's not bad for a Behringer mic preamp but I would never go for that. Infact your Apis have in my experience been the best metal guitar recording mic preamps. Interesting tips for the cab placement. I've always felt that isolating cabs might be a good way to go but have always been to lazy to do it LOL. I have my cab in a pretty good acustic place but it's meant for drums so it has some reverb. I placed a bunch of bass traps around it but I will try this in the future. My signal chain is just Jackson Custom [that I don't actually particularly like - but I've bought two of those guitars 15 years ago because I was a dumbass Megadeth fan and now I'm kinda stuck even tho' I've heard way better sounding guitars], Maxon 820, Peavey 6505+, Mesa Cab and a SM 57, [sometimes I will ad a moded SM57 that sounds kinda like SM7ish or a MD 421 or Audix i5], Neve 1073 mic preamp [because besides Audix those are the only ones I got] and that's mostly it. In the DAW I will group 4 or 6 channels [always 4 stems, 2 of them might have 4 channels for the extra mic] on one buss and put a slight mid cut EQ, slight EQ boost around 6 to 8 Khz and a lot of times I've been using a stereo enhancer / widener. Latelly I've noticed that it makes my guitars sound weak on the bottom end so in the future I will be mixing more heavy guitars without the stereo widener. I've tried the band comp on those nasty 100 Hz to120hz [is it even the right fq? LOL] for attenuating the chugs and it works pretty fine although I almost never have to do it.

[@GeekTherapyRadio]

Technique > gear. Always and infallibly. Expensive gear will only brutally expose crappy/lazy technique. Great technique with great gear however...(still don't throw out the Behringer. Cheap gear is still options on the palette).

[@AttitudeCastle]

How are you committing these as stereo tracks? Or are you printing folders/buses in Reaper when tracking and using those for the mono tracks? Or doing it at the interface routing? Any one got any advice? EIther way love this old school way of working!

[@BillHesse]

on the mixer you come out as a mono line to your interface

[@venomfour20]

I'm seeing that you have two 1/4 inch cables going out L and R. My question is do you put both the L and R cables from the mixer into the interface and route both outputs into one channel in the daw? I just ordered the same mixer for $55 and would appreciate any help! F U Glenn jk jk

[@timbushong4387]

"...it forces you to make a decision right at the source..." Amen, amen, AMEN!!! I've been telling guys for years--commit to a tone!!! I'll get these tracks labeled Gtr-1-57, Gtr-1-ADK, Gtr-1-Ribb, "'...cause we wanted you to have options." And I'm like "why didn't you print the actual SOUND that you wanted in the first place?"

[@johannsoncrusoe5589]

Me recording guitarists that do not know what they want to sound like. :D

[@timbushong4387]

@@johannsoncrusoe5589 - Exactly.

[@whatevercecil]

This is great, but I have a silly question. Are you recording mono L and R out of the mixer into the daw? since the two mics are blended my brain thinks stereo, but the session looks mono. I've been making music for 10 years, and I have that same little mixer for my little PA setup, but I've never thought to try this haha

[@MarkyShaw]

Fuckin love my shitty little Behringer eurotrack for the same exact reason. I bought the damn thing nearly 20 years ago because I was poor. Little did I know how useful it would be today. Still rockin' and I have no intentions of getting rid of it!

[@bowrooco]

What’s you thought on iso cabs ? I just got one and love it and it was under 200 bucks with a v30 in it You can put 2 mics at the same time with on speaker . I use a 57 and a md421 Les Paul and all tube black star club 40 sounds great ! Thx for your vids very cool info!

[@falconpowerful2362]

They all laughed at me for buying a Behringer Xenyx 2442... who's laughing now, fuckers? $$$$$$$$$$$

[@dannylerch]

I love your channel, but I'd like to see these techniques and how they sound on guitars that aren't dropped in such low tunings. Some of us here play traditional heavy metal, thrash, and other music that isn't so low.

[@TheBlackRam666]

Glenn is great for the modern stuff and for keeping the art of live drums alive, but if you want to hear the secrets of vintage tones and setups, I really appreciate Circle of Tone. He's a bit wordy but he gets serious tones when he's down to business

[@EricSwanson1]

I'm broke and can't afford great equipment. I guess I will have to settle for playing well and hope that works.

[@Pawel.Kieler]

is it me or has Glenn's playing improved?

[@megazillion2946]

This will be the second time I have used this technique now. This track isn't metal ( more noisy garage ) but I want some gnarl. It's great. Love this trick, thanks!

[@AWallaceProductions]

I finally got a space where I can crank my amp instead of using cab sims, and finally using this method. I found the exact Behringer mixer you have here, and I've been testing with a Shure SM46 and SM86 (condenser) and already it's better than anything I've recorded previously. Many thanks.

[@B3Band]

Isn't the act of putting blankets around a speaker cab akin to cupping to mic?

[@ShinobiSr1]

Son...of...a...bitch. This mixer has been collecting dust while I have been looking for a guitar tone for years. This techique gives me the "body" I've been looking for. Son of a bitch... Thanks Glen!!!

[@deadSalesman_GD]

We’ve got a 57 on channel one. Thats our dark mic. *plays* *fairly bright tone* We’ve got the Lewitt on channel two. That’s our bright mic. *plays* *super dark tone*

[@jholl7339]

WHAT??! You mean, when I was tracking on my cheap Behring 2004A, I was actually doing something good?? And I sold mine off, years back. Dammit!!! and I did the moving blanket trick, too.

[@ShawnJonesHellion]

Why are you using a gate? The gate kills your ability to sustain and kills a lot of the sound. Sure its way way harder to play without a gate but the gate seems to kill everything thats not just power riffs

[@theoriginalKland]

Hmm.. last time I recorded metal guitar I used: An Orange Stack, Marshal stack and Fender stack all in different booths/rooms each one cranked to 11 with a condensor (probably an MKH-40) and 57 on each. Mix and serve.. Also don't laugh at behringer.. I mean shit.. even Midas is copying their style and sound now.

[@AlfsAssets]

That's my recording rig !!!! Apart from the audit mic I have a senhiesser for that one.... Great tip with the blanketing .... Recommend.... Thanks Glenn 😄

[@BLAKKTHRASHRR]

What is your opinion of the audix D4? Is the D2 preferred when using the tips you suggest in the video? Everything you said in their makes really good sense and I'm going to try I'm just wanted to ask some questions about the difference between the D2 and the D4 if you know that info. Really appreciate your video. 🤘🤘👍👍

[@johannsoncrusoe5589]

Had the joy to to mic a celestian cream speaker with a sm57, md421 and a c414 for our guitarists orange rockerverb for our album this week and it sounds great through a tascam dm4800 mixer I had to use in the studio we are recording. As always, take your time to find the tone you want before you record it and try to mix it later. Make decisions about harshness and do not use too much distortion when you layer your guitartracks. If you are a guitarplayer imagine what you want your sound to be like BEFORE you hit the studio :) I have recorded many guitarists lacking knowledge about their own sound. You got to know what you want! Everything else is time consuming and as expansive as a new pedal or bringimg your guitar to a guitar center to set up your imstrument. I am playing BASS in that band btw! :D

[@Vanjaikhoon]

Hey Glenn.....the Award goes to....Mr. Fricker!!!!!!! For the best teaching ever if it's about Sound&Recording, for the really entertaining way, the humor in the presentation and last but not least, for hating bass players (like i hate my Bassist....sometimes).

[@Fistful0fSteel]

I have a 3. Gen 2i2 + Fishman Fluence pickups + Amp Sim. These in combination will take all its headroom. Questions: 1. Should I upgrade to the Scarlett 4i4 that has a pad (or another interface with pad) 2. Should I get a DI Box to attenuate 3. Can I just turn down the Amp Sims input and output to stop clipping? Best regards!

[@toofarpunk]

I just do this in my DAW--take the outputs of the 2 channels and route them into 1 channel to sum while you're recording to commit to the sound and then delete the 2 individual tracks. That way you're not messing around with a crappy mixer to do that job and degrade your sound. If you have a great mixer, that's a different story.

[@windekind27]

Is the Vintage 30 the ONLY acceptable speaker to record metal nowadays? Everybody is using them, and to be honest, I find them very bland. Now, I grew up when the G12T-75 was the undisputed king of metal, and I still adore it's sound. But everybody complains the are 'mid-scooped'. Well, there is a MID knob; turn it up! Did you ever record a G12T-75, and what do you think of its sound?

[@adamkahn8645]

since you are so damn good at engineering and capturing tones, would you ever consider covering how to achieve the sound/tones that the UK band "Architects" used for their album, "All Our Gods Have Abandoned Us"? They tune down to F# and G# on 6 strings (G# F# B E G# C# typically, and occasionally F# F# B E G# C#) and have such a HUGE sound..... any tips?

[@Alvolta25]

How did he get this wide setreo image on the guitar sound ? He played the track twice.. one is 100% left and the other 100% right?

[@samwinn2774]

A few Stupid Questions.. I have an Audix f10 fusion series tom and kick mic, a Sm58 that I removed the housing to make it work like a 57 (I have no choice I lost all my gear so I gotta use whatever I have that is available.. So will the Audix F10 fusion series Lo end friendly Tom/percussion mic work the same or close to the tone of the Audix D2 mic?? Also, if you only have one amp with 1x12in speaker in a combo (fender mustang 2 v.2 combo amp) can you mic the one 12in speaker the same way you placed both mics on separate speakers? Please help I know I have awful gear but it's all I got right now and I'm happy to have something, ANYTHING to play and make music with! Huge fan of you Glenn! -Sam, Long time pro musician.. Long time noob to audio engineering and metal music... (But not for long!!) ...*hopefully!

[@kosycat1]

Niceee.. I like this idea and frees up channels on your big mixer if you need them. I record my effects to "tape" In my daw. My drums through two warm 412's into two Klark Pultecs on overheads(414's) all boots and cuts set a 5, and 200,10k, and 20k selected , and my kick(d6) and snare(i5) on my art vla, And I have two cascade Fathead ll's in a blumlein about head-level running into The Klark La2a's. I barely have to mix my drums after that!

[@jjrusy7438]

holy luck-out batman!!! the UB2442FX-PRO is the actual mixer I bought off of Craig's list for my live rig. I got it for $100 here in Clevo (we can get Windsor radio stations btw, neighbor dude 8D) so I wouldn't cry(much) if it got rained on or w/e. Now maybe i'll get a "better" mixer to get rained on heh. All I need is the Audix D2 to have THEE setup. I have one question: I sort of arbitrarily bought a Scarlett 2i4 due to the focusrite pre's being something I heard good things about. I have been quite pleased with it, but I have no perspective regarding other interfaces. Is this an acceptable interface for properly AD'ing my signal from the Behringer mixer into the DAW (sonar fwiw )?? Thanks chief. Your videos are like school for me. You have no idea how crucial they are because I am pretty ignorant of the engineering/producing side of things.

[@fredrikwiech3160]

Hi love your Channel.Inspire me... You put the Harley Benton 2x12 Vintage Cab (loaded with celestion v30) in the description.Is It good sounding?I mean this thing ist cheap.... Greetings from Norway Fredrik

[@Nomad_za]

How would the Behringer X1204 work? I am trying to get a mixer with sliders instead of volume knobs as I am both a metal guitarist and becoming a streaming Radio DJ and the Radio station wants me to have the sliders. Never mind the fact that the X1204 costs ZAR3390 and the 802 costs ZAR1269