Speed Triple 1200 RS vs S1000XR at the track

[@I.m_Roi]

After watching your videos I pulled the trigger and switched my 2020RR To the 21XR. Couldn’t be happier. Ride safe.

[@CubanRider]

3:30 to 3:48 I lose a ton of momentum on the XR, those are definitely 2nd gear corners. I could've easily matched the Speed Triple's time, but there's no doubt that the Triumph can get around faster. The bike is faster, now it's the rider that needs to get faster.

[@Magicinstalls]

I know the XR will SMOKE the triple! I own a 2021!

[@mbal4052]

@@Magicinstalls bull shit

[@06barcafan10]

I love my XR and full Akro with RapidBike tuner……wouldn’t trade it for anything….rock on Cuban….love the videos.

[@pepedeespana3399]

Grande cubano! Aunque le recortes tiempo a la xr no hay que olvidar que es una sport touring, lo que hace valorar los tiempos y ritmos que te permite esa moto llevando suspensiones no enfocadas a circuito. Yo tengo la Speed 1200 y no dejo de pensar el gran trabajo que ha hecho BMW en la XR. Un saludo cubano. A ver si en breve SC Project saca un escape digno para la Speed

[@CubanRider]

De acuerdo Pepe. La Speed es muy capable y apenas estoy aprendiendo a montarla. Me encantaria un escape de SC Project, vamos a ver con lo que se aparecen.

[@The02wooley]

Awesome riding, will be there this weekend for MotoGP yay

[@cuannell2143]

Both some of my favourite Bikes ever! 👌🏼✊🏼

[@CubanRider]

Both phenomenal in their own ways no doubt. 👍

[@jimnorton2570]

I have an STR 1050, what do you feel are the pros and cons of ea bike?

[@FLYANDRIDE15]

Amazing video! And I had no idea a touring bike can be this fast, wow! I am now researching S1000xr!

[@ScottUsher]

FYI. The XR was completely altered in 2020. If your focus is touring, get the newer one. If your focus is sport, get a 2019 or 2018. I prefer sport, & they screwed the 4,5 & 6 up after 2019. It's really an upright Super Sport up to 19, then its half Super Sport, half touring beyond that.

[@FLYANDRIDE15]

@@ScottUsher got it. Thank you!

[@andrearonzoni6063]

Sempre uno spettacolo i tuoi video...e bella idea le comparative..2 moto stupende ...mi attira molta xr... polivalente..ciao dal Italia ✌️😁

[@rugbynimbus]

Like you, as someone who's had both, XR is the scalpel that's way easier to live with, but the S3 is so awesome those times you need the raw grunt of a hammer.

[@RioterRides]

You know the xr is the same engine as the s1000r right

[@rugbynimbus]

@@RioterRides Yup.

[@RioterRides]

@@rugbynimbus ok just making sure Becuase I’m pretty sure the s1000r(xr) has plenty raw grunt

[@rugbynimbus]

@@RioterRides The way it's tuned, the XR is a high-end screamer; the S3's power arrives lower in the rev and just has more of a kick than the XR's pull. Tbh, I miss having a triple. But heated grips and some wind protection go a long long way for me these days.

[@seniorrider9337]

A wee power slide there coming out of that one turn must have been fun! :-) The speed triple is probably going to be the fastest once you get a bit more comfortable with it, but I still like the XR. Nice video Cuban Rider. Some more would be OK too!

[@CubanRider]

I see you caught that. 😉 Yes, the electronics came to my rescue more than once this time around. I will be posting a bit more video possibly next week; very much looking to go back to COTA, lots to improve still.

[@ulyssesbuelldechnord3694]

Amazing and breathtaking !

[@michelsomoza8197]

Dimelo Cubano! Sigue dandole caña

[@CubanRider]

Seguro que si. Saludos.

[@Tefloncoated]

I loved the sound of my speed triple RS for about a week then got very bored with it. Good job on the "old"BMW

[@simonedeturris3704]

Cuban: as always you deliver. Great video. Had the RS 1200 for a weekend test ride. Felt ridiculously easy to ride on the twisty roads - was not sure how it would be on the track. I see now that also on track it performs well - I bought the Aprilia Tuono Factory 2021 instead which performs insanely.

[@CubanRider]

Excellent choice. If the Tuono had been out already, it might have been a really tough choice for me.

[@robertcaron9181]

XR as the best of both worlds, speed and comfort.

[@oveckamj]

That looks like a looooooot of fun on the track! Wow... Now I gotta try race track :)

[@powayimports4175]

Great skills and riding!

[@yashinnil5047]

from what i can see, So much of that S1000 XR's timing was how confident and comfortable you are with it. Think once u get more comfortable with the speed1200 and all lil issues are resolved it'll be quite a weapon. what tires on both bikes btw?

[@CubanRider]

Same tires on both, Michelin Power Cup 2 which are excellent and I highly recommend.

[@yashinnil5047]

@@CubanRider I'm on the newish power 5s for my superduke . Lovely sporty road tire. Will consider the cup2s when track access is a possibility again 👍🏼..just realise theyve aligned their car and bike tires names 😳

[@EbonB]

both bike sound amazing and the xr looked faster to me, but both are awesome!

[@CubanRider]

The XR can be faster, but so can the Speedie. I wasn't doing my best riding that day, a little rusty.

[@ravenmoto5948]

XR looked faster to me too and I thought the wind protection would give a better time then the Speedie

[@philliprobertlawman2232]

Nice mate 👌 👍

[@senor-fa-von-dia]

The sound of the xr pisses all over that Triumph

[@CubanRider]

Not fair, the XR's wind protection and louder exhaust come much more clearly over the mic. Too much wind noise on that Speedy.

[@luisj7130]

Hi men, great video, i´m just between this two models please give me a hand, which one do you prefer. The bmw is a 2020 model with carbon package, the Speed is a 2022 model with no extra item

[@lacemi]

I like yours gloves!! 😁

[@CubanRider]

Thanks! Super comfortable.

[@lacemi]

@@CubanRider tienen muy buena pinta!!

[@marcos.1771]

Would you please show me what make and model of gloves you’re wearing?

[@greatcornholio5541]

Five…but I think it’s an older discontinued model

[@marcos.1771]

@@greatcornholio5541 In the meantime I can do an Internet search until Cuban Rider replies.

[@CubanRider]

They are Five RFX1 Replica. They have a newer version now, but these I found super cheap, less than $100 and the fitment is amazing for my hands. I've had another pair for a few years now.

[@marcos.1771]

@@CubanRider Thank you very much for the info, I’ll try to find them on the Internet. Those gloves look really very nice in your video.

[@Fr99763]

Speedy is spectacular !

[@jace2wheel762]

Ya know...I watched a video on here of a stock speedy 1050 running the Nurbergring in 7m36s...the 1200 with the added power can only make it faster! What track is this BTW? I was supposed to re-cert my WSBK ticket in Utah this past summer. But being Canadian and the cootie mess going on its gonna have to wait

[@FruitlessnesS]

It’s Circuit of the Americas - COTA

[@jace2wheel762]

@@FruitlessnesS thank you

[@CubanRider]

Yes, same track where MotoGP will be in a couple of weeks. 💪 Super privileged this track is local to me and I can ride it.

[@jeffmccollum3769]

Cuban both Bikes are Great on the Track. Did you get the Pre-Load dialed in on the RS? Great Video Thanks

[@CubanRider]

I did, yes. Works phenomenal at the track.

[@huntingwheels7374]

what do you think about michelin power cup 2? and what pressure do you use on track?

[@tomrotem1]

Awesome video and pro riding! Could be cool to do a side by side for these laps. Your turn 20 on the XR may have cost you a bit of time. More videos please!

[@CubanRider]

Believe me I tried to get them side by side, but the videos would look too small. I may do a little experiment for Facebook. Far from pro riding, but I'm happy I dipped into the 2:20s the first time I rode the Speed Triple out there. ✊

[@ScottUsher]

Hey Brother, 2 big fans of yours coming to COTA for Moto GP. 1 XR, & 1 Tourno. Our race abode (Triton Toy Hauler) will be stationed in Lot N. 2 big Nicky Haden Flags flying. Love to pour you a complimentary. Be there the whole event. Probably going to schread the Twisted Sister once or twice too.

[@CubanRider]

Hey Scott, thanks for reaching out. Not sure of my plans for the day as of yet, but I'll say hi if I'm in the area. 🤙

[@ScottUsher]

We've been at every GP event at COTA. It's always amazing. The best in the world, & you get to see every manufactures latest & greatest on the infield. They all bring their best new rigs for the grand event. Even Harley. Hope to see you there. We've been watching your vids for years.

[@brucekendall52]

Do you miss the wind protection on the Speed Triple?

[@CubanRider]

Absolutely! It's brutal trying to hold on getting up to 160 mph. It doesn't have the "butt stop" like on the Duke 890 either, you end up slipping back past the end of the seat.

[@daveb6345]

I have no doubt the Speed will go quicker 😎

[@CubanRider]

Still has the beat the 2:26 from the XR last time around. 😉

[@daveb6345]

@@CubanRider you will do it, I have faith 😁

[@kevinmcdonald1917]

Damn your good!

[@bigbigterrorista8812]

Tires used?

[@silv3rArrow]

Are the 2 seconds worth the "XR on a racetrack" cool factor though?

[@CubanRider]

I know, right! 🙃

[@woodstock048]

Do you plan on exercising the new RR? Better question, when?

[@CubanRider]

I'd love to!

[@nickrider5220]

What mods are you thinking of doing to the Speedy ? It's such a light and potent bike it almost needs lower bars to keep the front wheel down at the track, plus tucking in would be easier too. Top video 🙂

[@richgsxr1000k9]

Speed triple 1200 RR fits the bill there, although it’s a tad more expensive to the tune of nearly 3k!

[@CubanRider]

Hey Nick, not thinking of any mods at the moment. I would like to tune it in the future and squeeze a little more power out of it, but as is it's a very capable machine. I didn't experience much trouble with the bike wanting to wheelie, it pulls pretty cleanly out of the turns. Holding on it's another matter, you really have to hold on to those bars at speed, there's not a lot of rear support for the butt and between the power and the wind, it's quite the challenge at triple digits.

[@JNasty1993]

Would you mind specifying what kind of mechanical issue you faced? Looking into a new bike and its either the speed triple, superduke, or an r1

[@CubanRider]

Coolant leak from overflow tank after a hot session. Still trying to figure out what's the cause.

[@greyanaroth]

What did the suspension tuner at the track think about the bike? And did you get a tune done for the track at the track?

[@CubanRider]

I tuned the suspension myself. It's brilliant at the track. The tune is all stock, just with the limiter removed.

[@greyanaroth]

@@CubanRider ah amazing! Did you have to massively change the sag settings?

[@MyRandomLife247]

The Speed Triple looks like its more on a knife edge in terms of grip compared to the S1kXR?

[@KevinBanks512]

felt the same

[@CubanRider]

A lot more ground clearance, that's the key, and much lighter when flicking side to side.

[@MrHappy-oq7ot]

@@CubanRider what do you mean by that?can you elaborate why? also isn't the xr heavier?or just top heavy?

[@grenphelps7455]

Have u seen that triumph just launched the new speed triple RR, that looks like the perfect weapon for u.. 👍👍

[@CubanRider]

Not bad, it's going to be more expensive for sure though.

[@tizianonatali8209]

What seat are you using on the xr? I feel the stock one is not as comfy for fast driving as on (for example) the s1000r

[@CubanRider]

It's the stock seat, it's great all around.

[@giovannisalvaggio935]

Great vid!! what kind of brake pump do you use on your XR?

[@CubanRider]

Stock, just upgraded brake pads. 👍

[@Dp3.16]

Triumph will smash 2.26 with practice 👍

[@CubanRider]

I'm thinking sub-2:25 easy. This was my second session of the day, then had to park it due to some coolant issues. Had it ridden it all day long, I would've gone much quicker on it.

[@Dp3.16]

@@CubanRider Agreed 👍

[@Youtube_Globetrotter]

Do you ever miss your Duke 890R?

[@CubanRider]

No doubt

[@Youtube_Globetrotter]

@@CubanRider But the Triumph is still a better bike?

[@CubanRider]

@@KZbin_Globetrotter in some aspects, yes. The KTM has better electronics and is more agile. The Speed has more... speed, and it's a more substantial machine overall. Can't go wrong with either, I'm really enjoying the Speed despite its minor flaws.

[@alexanderhopkins2807]

Could you grab the new tuono V4 1100 rr and do a lap on that for us too so I can make a decision? 😂👍🏼

[@AntaresSQ01]

Out of curiosity what was the best you ever got out of the XR in terms of top speed?

[@CubanRider]

I think 162 indicated is the highest I've ever gotten it. Got the Speed up to 166.

[@spider121]

Miles/hr?

[@Marty43ful]

What tyres are you running on both bikes?

[@CubanRider]

Michelin Power Cup 2s.

[@MrMotorider100]

Terrific vid brother, picked up a 1200 RS recently but still kept my 890r. I am curious if you ran the 890 at the same track and what was your best time? I still haven’t tracked the 1200 RS, but the 890 is a riot to ride especially after the front cartridges were swapped out for K-tech. Truly enjoy your channel 👏

[@CubanRider]

Never ran the 890 at COTA, though it would certainly do well. I think the Speed Triple would still get better times due to the very long straights, but everywhere else it would come down to rider skill. I do miss the 890, wish I could've kept mine.

[@MrMotorider100]

@@CubanRider Fair assessment, the long straights is the 890’s Achilles for sure. Hey, if you ever ride the Northeast tracks you can have a spin on it again in my backyard. Terrific channel congrats and looking forward to more content. Cheers

[@CubanRider]

@@MrMotorider100 thanks man. The 890 is surprisingly fast even on the straights, ran a 11.1 on the quarter mile to the Speed Triple 10.6, and keep pulling pretty strongly past 145 mph. It's a shame I never ran it at COTA.

[@peterson.mottaruda]

Well, the BMW sounds better! 😁👍😷

[@manuelguerini2884]

Same tyres?

[@CubanRider]

Yes

[@a.k1311]

Which pepper did you eat, fed them? 😂

[@fernandopascualsedeno6191]

Viva Cuba!! Cojones...como apretas...

[@CubanRider]

Jaja, saludos Fernando.

[@fernandopascualsedeno6191]

@@CubanRider Un saludo!!

[@Myself6M]

I believe that you are gonna be even faster with the Speed, as you seem much more knowing of s1000XR, and a bit sloppier with the Speed e.g. the S1000XR you properly ring it out on the straights, whereas with Speed you are short shifting a bit. Also, with the XR you seem more planted on corner exit, whereas with the Speed you seem to be fighting a bit the bike on exit. The Speed seems a be a bit more demanding to ride in general when compared to the XR.

[@CubanRider]

More demanding to ride for sure, but also much nimbler and with higher limits. I think a few more track days with it will get me real comfortable with it.

[@Myself6M]

@@CubanRider Of course you will 💪

[@cuannell2143]

I have a question... Why do people put tape on there headlights at the track? Just curious 🤔 Great riding by the way!

[@Wojtek0493]

Thats are the rules of the every racetrack, if u have headlights or bigger turn signals u have tape it, so if u crash the glas from them would not go everywehre :)

[@cuannell2143]

@@Wojtek0493 Ohhhh, thanks for telling me! 🙏🙌

[@Δίκαιος-ο8ψ]

s1000xr…. Is the best and very fast.. my lap is 2,19 sec…!!!!

[@vidright]

Imho the wrong BMW bike. S1000R instead of XR.

[@McKannaa]

I guess your lines could've been way more agressive....

[@bebel3163]

Marc marques va plus vite lol

[@Igor-hw6ux]

🤣😂😂😂🤣

[@hiroshiphillipnakamura5358]

The BMW sounds racier, IMO