eBike Tuning SpeedBox 3.0 for Bosch Installation Instruction

[@joonswhatever7262]

Active Line Plus. I did not end up needing to remove the crank arm to gain access to the wiring. The placement for the connectors to the motor varied from that in the video. I ended up having to loosen the motor from the bike frame to get enough wiggle room in the wiring to remove the plugs. First ride, on the dirt track behind my house, worked great.

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Thank you for your positive feedback.

[@sigigangster4264]

I've got mine today, installed on Cube stereo hybrid 140, kiox display, easy to install, no problems with fitting wires, easy to set up, works fine! The only issue is that actually it gives you boost up to +/- 50 km/h on turbo mode, so no way you can ride much faster than 50 km/h. Still I am happy to have it, more options and more fun than speed limited to 25 km/h.

[@jackewenv1199]

Your comment just sold it for me I have a cube stereo hybrid pro 500w hoping it gives me 50 too

[@geu6270]

New speedbox 3 is unlimited speedbox 1 was 50kph which is pretty fast to get around traffic and such.

[@OutdoorVeteranJones]

Hey mate! I hope i works for my cube stereo hybrid 140 hpc race too..

[@Dan-s2i1c]

How long does the battery last though I imagine it goes super fast

[@oddjob4877]

I have a Speedbox 3 fitted to my Scott emtb and have now clocked up 3800Km - everything works fine. One habit you must learn - is to NEVER turn off your display (let it time out) and NEVER plug your charger into the bike until the display has gone blank via its normal time out mechanism. If you turn off the display early, then you will trigger the Bosch anti hacking software on your bike which means a dealer reset.

[@darkuniverse422]

Did you have 1.5.0 Firmware

[@runef7471]

I sometimes get 503 error, even though i never turn off computer until it countes down to 0. Now I read that you say never to plug charger to bike until its off. I never heard anything about that. Can you tell what you know about that problem?

[@oddjob4877]

@@runef7471 , the Bosch gen 4 motors have anti hacking software. If you have a speed dongle fitted and you plug in your charger or before the display has fully reset it will trigger the anti hack lockout. Unfortunately I have discovered (the hard way!) that even though the display looks like it has timed down to zero the software doesn’t agree!! Consequently the only way to be absolutely sure that the software has correctly reset after a ride is to wait for the display to time out and go blank after a ride. Since I have taken this approach I have never had a problem. We have a number of Bosch powered bikes: our Haibike, Scott and Canyon bikes all are fitted with dongles, and I can report that waiting for the system to go to sleep is foolproof. Hope this helps.

[@runef7471]

@@oddjob4877 great !! Then that might be my problem. Thanks m8 :)

[@luisramos3102]

@@oddjob4877 What if the battery runs out and I don't have time to wait to turn it off?

[@nassiratti8542]

For those of you wondering about the 504 Error, I rode my Trek Allant 2022 model for commuting and even after 700 miles of riding the error didn't occur. Don't avoid the countdown, as annoying as it is, it prevents the system from detecting the tuner for you. You can wait 5 min and it even auto shuts off. As long as you do what the speedbox organization directs you to do, you should be fine with the speedbox 3.0. Happy ebiking!!

[@Ju-dn1jq]

Hi there. Do you still are not getting the error code? Alencar here. Thanks

[@nassiratti8542]

@@Ju-dn1jq still no error, I use my Trek Allant 7s for doordashing and it’s a champ.

[@len9483]

@@nassiratti8542 Do you have to do all the steps as in the video at around 3:32? Seems a bit confusing. Thank you.

[@nassiratti8542]

@@len9483 if you have the gen 3 motor you may have to take the crank off, but with gen 4 motors there’s no need to take the crank off and you can simply take the cover off and install the chip.

[@len9483]

Thank you Nassiratta, but I was referring to scrolling through all the modes and pressing the up and down buttons to see the speeds.

[@jessejames1401]

10/10 on the guide probably the best guide video I've seen in a long time.

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Hello. Thank you for your feedback, we appreciate this! Wish you many happy miles!

[@johnkeefe55]

Installed mine back in January on the top of the range Trek Mountain bike. I have done at least 50 long rides with it without any problems at all, It just works every time. I don't know what the "leave on until 0 is shown" means. Sometimes I forget and turn it off straight away without waiting for 0, but it makes no difference, it still works normally every time.

[@tekmekster]

Do you remove battery for charging?

[@johnkeefe55]

@@tekmekster No just use the charging point on the bike. It all still operates perfectly now after 100 rides.

[@metaljoseph]

The reason that you should wait is that the Bosch system will know that the sea box is plugged in don’t wait. It’s a computer so it recognizes there’s something plugged in and work around from Bosch is that you wait till it says 0.0.If something happens to your motor god for bed, your warranty will be void.

[@ericsens4355]

Got it, installed it and had some trouble with the speed indicator connection. Installed it again. Worked like a charme. Walk mode is the on/off switch, so walk mode doesn't function anymore. I ride my bike, so that doesn't bother me. I have the 2020 Bosch CX Performance 4th gen and I have driven >200 km the last 2 weeks, even in some pretty bad weather. I love it!

[@NetMillionaire]

Will this Speedbox 3.0 work for Bosch Center Motor Performance line CX Gen 4?

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

@@NetMillionaire Yes, we confirm compatibility.

[@jxfcrbh6623]

How fast does it go, have you tested? I have the same motor

[@vipmaqagoo]

@@SpeedBoxTuning hi sell? Kit set ebike link have?

[@nashk9720]

@SpeedBox Tuning : I've not seen the performance I'd expected to gain after installing my SB3, best I've managed is low 50km/h's on a downward incline. Now I know I'm not fit enough to perform this on my own, so it IS working to some degree, but I expected the Pedal Assist to be much better than it is at lower speeds (I bought the SB becuz I am extremely unfit and required the additional assistance but it doesn't seem to be there). Do you have any thoughts about the lack of performance improvement I'm experiencing? Also, when j first purchased this bike (2nd hand), the previous owner had moved the speed sensor magnet onto the crank arm, and the sensor in a location to pick it up there. I changed this once I installed the SB and noticed - was there anything to gain from them doing this? I've ever since had troubles getting the speed sensor to pickup the magnet. I've tried a small cube length of neodymium stuck to the spoke, and also a regular bike computer screw on sensor, and neither is better than the other, I have to fiddle with the magnet and the speed sensor before each ride to get it working and prey it continues to work. I'd really appreciate some technical assistance/feedback from you guys as soon as you have the time. Cheers, Nash

[@geu6270]

Thanks for great video just got another gestapo bosch motor (Great Priced full carbon Canyon Grail On: Wished the had used wonderful Yamaha motors....) so bought another great speedbox. Correct me if I am wrong, respectfully why did you have to pull the crank arm to remove the cover ? I did the same procedure 2 years ago on that model motor and easily removed the cover by removing those two torx screws without pulling the crank. As everyone can see by this video you can easily get to them by turning the crank arm out of the way.

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Hello. We are glad that you are satisfied with the SpeedBox, even if it is not for a Yamaha motor 🙂 It is true that it is not always necessary to remove the crank from the motor. We made a video of the handle being removed to demonstrate this option as well. Plus the video is clearer and the motor cover did not obstruct the shot.

[@geu6270]

@@SpeedBoxTuning Great !!! Just ordered a Speedbox 3.

[@mikecarroll9000]

Can you help me please

[@sanderfrigolagroen5871]

Just installed the 3.0 on a 2020 CX with purion display , just awesome what a speed, no need to remove the pedal on my bike on installation. Flat out with MTB tires I reached 52km/h on a flat road. Safely shutting down the bike just takes 5-8 seconds. Totally happy! UPDATE: Drove 500km no problems. Shutting down time is longer than 5-8 seconds. More like 30-40 seconds. I notice it gets shorter when i put the setting back to max 25kmh mode for the last 300 meters of the ride. That saves 50%. Again have to say its a great ride i average 40-45 kmh can easily keep up with speedpedelecs :)

[@tvaccount6211]

How are you getting on with it now? Any error come up? have you done over 1000km yet? Interested to hear your experience

[@sanderfrigolagroen5871]

@@tvaccount6211 Check my initial comment. I made an update.

[@simplyaasian7176]

how do you avoid the 504 error thing

[@hurvinekspejbl6229]

@@sanderfrigolagroen5871 how u doing?

[@bastogne315]

Hi i am the police...in ur country. What is your address?

[@frankiehoosier9165]

I did not need to remove the crank arm on my 2020 Riese and Muller Delite. Just removed the two screws for the cover and voila simple install. First ride today and everything worked well. My bike does have the 85nm update. Thanks !!

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Thank you very much for your positive feedback.

[@Michi_L]

I also own a RM (Delite Mountain) and there was a RX Chip hidden inside the motor cover which i removed. Was it a problem to place the speedbox inside the cover? I think there is not much space...

[@frankiehoosier9165]

What is the RX Chip for? To fit the SpeedBox just takes a little time to carefully pack it in the small space around the motor and secure it with a zip tie. The bike now has 9674 miles and haven’t had any problems.

[@Michi_L]

@@frankiehoosier9165 the rx chip is a gps tracking device which comes with the bike

[@sambadham1404]

This is a fantastic idea and completely legal. It just means you have a way of switching to unlocked mode when you are not on a public road/path.

[@dzengerink]

Not everywhere, not in France! up to 30.000 euros fine.. be careful lads, check your laws

[@krokodilen31]

​@@dzengerinkdo u have an example on a actual case someone got that penalty?

[@ambiorixcastillocina2730]

Does it give me more power for hills?

[@aryder151]

Ok, nearly 50mph, downhill, on a Cannondale 26".. I was doing it every weekend.. absolute blast of fun!

[@hugovuori4778]

Destroys range?

[@ingush1989]

Is it worth to place it? I have bosch active line motor (36v-250w motor, 25km/h). My display is intuvia lcd display.

[@jameswilson9011]

dangerous af

[@aryder151]

Sorry guys, this was in 2012. It was a non-electric bike. The gears and the mountains allowed me to do that😁. Just got a cube acid hybrid 400, with Bosch motor 500w. It doesn't have gearing to go over 35mph..

[@aryder151]

I had an idea: on this ebike Cube acid 400, with mid motor, I am thinking of adding a 1500w 48v front wheel motor. Plus, derestrict the Bosch original motor (I already ordered speedbox 3.0)

[@rossturley7341]

Installed mine 2017 scott ,bosch cx ,in minutes ,works fabulous

[@rossturley7341]

1000k,s now since i installed speedbox ,great really is an easy install, tiny cable tie for the wiring and tuck the box away ,literally done in minutes

[@jdtourneur617]

Easy, clear and concise. Perfect (even for the french i am !) :)

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Merci beaucoup! 🤩

[@CONFUCIUS-f2x]

I just ordered this system on Amazon. This better work.

[@iamIncrediblehulk]

Well, did it work?

[@CONFUCIUS-f2x]

​@@iamIncrediblehulk Yes. It works. Just be aware of the countdown function after a ride. Over 28mph easily.

[@iamIncrediblehulk]

@@CONFUCIUS-f2x I waited 2 years for this? Lol 😆

[@CONFUCIUS-f2x]

@@iamIncrediblehulk 😄😄 I just got the notification. KZbin is kind of slow nowadays.

[@Nirvezz]

Yuba Spicy Curry- cargo line I just bought and installed it on my bike. The damn thing works. I had to do the plus minus option. I rolled down my hill that reaches 35 mph. Normally the engine cuts off at 20mph. I could hear and feel the engine going that I pushed it to 40mph. I doubt I’ll ever continuously pedal that speed, but it’s nice I can actually pedal finally passed 20mph.

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Hi, Thank you very much for the nice review! Don't forget to let the mileage recalculation finish after your ride or during longer breaks 🙂 We wish you many happy miles!

[@markburban9573]

Got mine today; took 5 mins to install & another 5 to figure out how to setup the max speed limit. now for a test ride!

[@bastogne315]

I am police in your country. I come to see you today.

[@maxpain73]

Excellent product,v easy to fit and worked as advertised,no more horrible drag on the gen 3 bosch,feels like how an ebike should be.

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Thank you sir.

[@xmateinc]

maybe go to a bafang motor system. Bosch is for people that still like riding their bike.

[@ericsens4355]

Thnx for you quick response. Got the chip out, received the upgraded, put the chip back in. Tested it, got a new bike. Specially in ECO you can feel a much better response and longer range. Very pleased with the upgrade and the Speedbox.

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Thanks for your positive feedback. It is appreciated.

[@mohsinsheikh1961]

@@SpeedBoxTuning Nice video I have cube touring hybrid one 500 ebike, since it is a paddle assist and due to my health requirements I would like to add throttle to my cube ebike, please advise / guide on how to go about having throttle control installed in it. Thank you

[@84imreplica]

As mentioned in the posts below, the hardest part of this install is keeping all the wires in place as you install the motor cover. I suspect this procedure wasn't shown in the video because it is very hard to do.

[@DickOswald]

@Matthew Mullins where are u stated in can?

[@McStoolio]

Please, just tape them.

[@mikepotts319]

Again, coming from someone who's done this. It's easy. Really easy. There is plenty of room. Great bit of kit.

[@johnieallen6115]

On which bike? Please.

[@milanmodos2610]

@@johnieallen6115 It doesn't matter wich bike he did this to, because it's the Bosch motor what we are talking about and not the whole bike.

[@LarryRichelli]

so frustrating....not showing how you packed the wiring into the case. That was the whole reason I was watching.

[@kennethkarso]

Dont tell me you cant use tie ribs to pack it up men.. or did you have two left hands

[@jeffellermeyer4517]

Perhaps this mod is not for you?

[@jameswilson9011]

they show it dangling free inside at 3:32

[@capelde]

Use your imagination ffs

[@Shaijn815]

i'd suggest a little 3m vhb tape or cable ties

[@stroy1]

Hi. Have the 3.0 speedbox on a Bosch performance. I just realized that I only can enable the tuning via the app. The walk button or the +-+- no longer enable the tuning. Any tips?

[@LarryRichelli]

How about an updated video for 2021?

[@1952will]

bonjour.sur un moteur bosch performance line cx MY15 BDU2xxCX "generation2" sorti en 2015,quelle speedbox faut-il que j'achete....merci pour la reponse

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Bonne journée. Nous recommandons la SpeedBox 3.0 pour Bosch. Il est compatible avec les générations 2, 3 et 4 🙂

[@SimonHarvey-i4z]

Hi do you need to remove battery completely b4 u fit speedbox chip? As i have one on order but cannot find the keys for my battery!!!!dont think I've ever removed the battery in the year plus i have had the bike so do i definitely need to remove it?TIA 😊😊

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Hi. We recommend removing the battery from the e-bike, as installing the chip interferes with the e-bike motor, even if it is only a matter of disconnecting and connecting the connectors. If you don't remove the battery during installation, the motor should not explode and the SpeedBox will work. But please take it as a recommendation to guarantee the functionality of our product 🙂

[@Nontouchable]

so how about some longer-term review on this, anyone got bricked for good by now?

[@threadzz]

I've had a Speedbox on my Bosch motor from almost new. Currently done more than 12000kms and it still feels just like new. :-)

[@wesleylimbrick1073]

Had my speed box 2 for 2 years do approx 200 miles a week off road commuting and still going strong ,brill bit of kit

[@geu6270]

Is there an english version of the program on the phone ? Also, VERY IMPORTANT can you set the % of power at each level Eco, tour, sport and turbo ???

[@vidman999]

My (Canadian purchased) 2022 SCOTT Strike eRIDE 920 has the BOSCH Performance Line CX GEN-4 , which has 5 plugs all with wires going into them .Only 1 of the ports don't have a wire plugged into it. Is there some other product or adapter that I'd require to make this work?

[@carlocrighton]

Requested advice from Speedbox for the e-bike I have, got the 3.0 for Bosch also ordered their crank puller. But puller does not fit Canyon GrailON. No options, warnings or advice from Speedbox or it's website. Local bike shops do not carry a bigger non-standard crank puller either.

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Hi Carlo. We recommend a crank puller for e-bikes where this is needed to remove the crank. We do not recommend a crank puller in general for all e-bikes with a Bosch motor, as we do not know which e-bikes necessarily require a crank puller and which do not. Thank you for your understanding.

[@mikecarroll9000]

Did you resolve this?

[@redlkb]

I installed Speedbox 3 B. without removing the pedal. Active Line Plus

[@MadDogTM]

I dont have this brand I have a Philodo H8 which alone I have 9 PAS modes, but usually use hand throttle and can hit 38 mph when freshly charged, then it drops to like 31-34 mph range when riding a little. I just want to know if theres any tune kits for that type of bike, all the computer parts are located in a bag by the battery, and a box on the bottom frame by the front tire. I just want my bike to take of quicker sometimes lol cause it has times where it peels out, or times where you have to pedal to help the motor realize I want to go lol

[@christ3423]

when is the speedbox 4 out ? the version 3 is putting a lot of Bosh Gen 4 and older Gens with the firmware updates into Limp mode after so many miles. WHEN WILL THIS BE FIXED ? and why are the speedbox makers all quiet about this like its not happening..

[@frankiecain6976]

My speed box goes to 2.1 instead of 6.5 for some reason now and it cuts out at 22 mph do you know why it’s a 4th gen

[@artgreg2296]

Same here, i have started to buy a 2021 cube cx to my dealer but will finally ask for a refund till there is a real tested working product

[@Simon-ls8xf]

@SpeedBox Tuning what you do if you stop at stoplight and countdown start? Can you pedal forward? I live in city, I stop at stop light many time , and another one and another one.. What happen if I pedal before countdown is over? What happens if you ran out of battery life?

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

We counted with situations when customer must stop on traffic lights. In this case you are allowed to interrupt the countdown. Basically, countdown might be interrupted occasionally. However, it must not be completely ignorred. Just at the end of your ride, please let it count down to the 0.

[@powerkitemad]

Will the Speedbox-3 work for Bosch Cargo line? About to order a cargo bike but need that extra assist. Thank you.

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Hello, yes of course. SpeedBox 3.0 for Bosch is fully compatible with Bosch Cargo line.

[@lovemadeinjapan]

Can this be used to calibrate a Bosch motor? I don't need to speed, just want to be able to ride 25 instead of being capped just under 23.

[@sackerlzement3377]

I‘ve read that the Bosch software detect the modification and deactivates the motor completely after some minutes of usage. To unlock it you have to visit the bike dealer. Is that true?

[@cocojombo7975]

Good question i want to modify my bosch motor as well. I think i have to wait a little till i got more details about this

[@borislorenz9585]

Can only speak for a 2019 Bosch Performance Line CX. Works fine with mine. Can't tell about the Gen4.

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

SpeedBox 3.0 for Bosch overcomes this. We stay behind our products. Furthermore, if Bosch accidentaly detects tuning, motor is still usable, just the motor support is decreased for a while. To resolve this, you don't have to visit the bike dealer. Visit the bike dealer is just one of the options.

[@SevenCuriosities]

yes bosch software will detect it, but only after few hundreds km.., probably something in the statistics of usage doesn't sum up and it will trigger a tunning detection, happened to me on cx perfomance Gen4, was all good the first rides but after ~300km it started to show random speeds while riding, then error 504, limp mode, and had to take the speedbox 3 out, will not use it again

[@pinopino1086]

@@SevenCuriosities ....pffffff. Horrible. I would like to go a few miles faster but not with all the hassle you had. So what now?

[@cookec21]

Hi, if the Speedbox 3.0 is removed from the bike before any warranty claim, will they be able to detect that it was plugged in, and then invalidate the warranty?

[@jeromeawake3283]

Yes ones the "computer" of the bike is conntected to the dealer/sellers laptop etc for service etc. History of the bike will show that in its "lifespan" it has provided more KW's at higher speed which leads to the proof the engine has been messed with.

[@ericsens4355]

Got the news there is a software update for the Bosch 4th gen, with some pretty great new stuff. Can we use the old chip or do we need a to buy a new chip (Which I don't mind, because I like the fun of it!)

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

SpeedBox 3.0 for Bosch is fully compatible with new 2021 Bosch update. This update is related to Gen4 only so you must have SpeedBox 3.0 for Bosch to be able to enjoy the new udpate.

[@Raceeverything]

SpeedBox Tuning can we leave the speed box plugged in whilst getting the update ?

[@ericsens4355]

@@Raceeverything If you leave the chip in, it will be found by the Bosch software during the upgrade and void your guarantee.

[@scottjacobs7522]

So if you take out speedbox when you get a service done is the bike shop able to tell if have had speedbox on there ?

[@Simon-ls8xf]

Today I got 504 error after 8000 km 😮

[@flagman6442]

Can you tell me why you have to wait for countdown to finish before switching off after a ride? Thanks

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

This is our way how we deal with Bosch's tuning detection.

[@brakesforsnakes757]

@@SpeedBoxTuning What are the chances that this can be detected by a manufacturer even after being removed?

[@WEF2030SLAVE]

@@brakesforsnakes757 +1

[@27Dionysis]

SpeedBox Tuning what does “tuning detection” mean? Great product. What happens if you turn it off before the countdown ends?

[@vesaheikkinen2100]

Hey, is the speed limit setting permanent or do you have to set it every time you toggle the speedbox on? If you don't activate the speedbox on your ride do you need to wait before turning the bike off? How long do you have to wait before turning the bike off and does the wait time depend on the length of the ride or the kilometers you have put on the bike?

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Hello Vesa. Sorry for late reply. Speed limit setting is permanent until next change in settings. You do not need to wait for the countdown, if you do not activate the tuning. Yes, the countdown process depends on the length and speed of the ride - usualy takes a minute or two.

[@flyingfox7252]

Seriously these things work - it’s fantastic

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Thanks for your positive feedback.

[@leekindell9937]

Oh cool I think I’ll have to get one for my new 22 Trek Rail 9GX that’s coming in April. I assume you do for this.

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Yes, soon, we'll start working on the new SpeedBox for 2022 Bosch Smart System.

[@luckylours]

Nice, How long does it take to go down to 0 before turning Off on a 750 smart model ?

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Hello. It depends how long have you been riding. Let´s say one and half minute.

[@stevedavies2955]

Per my last post - What I mean is - when I turn on using top button do I then each time have to go to the walk button to select 6.1 or whatever the Speedbox is set to please - Or does it remember and pick up from the previous mode I. E either normal or speedbox?

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Hi. After switching the e-bike off and on, it is necessary to activate the tuning again. The display shows a value of 9.9 kmh or 6.2 mph. But if you set a maximum speed of, for example, 30 mph, it will stay in memory and you won't have to set it again every time 🙂

[@WoodstockG54]

Does this work with 2022 CX performance models?

[@fcjtifiknow]

I read on the Bosch website that the motors can detect that it's going faster than it should and goes into a low run mode that can only be reset by a Bosch technician with a code. Is that true?

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Basically, it's true. However, there are ways how to overcome that. SpeedBox 3.0 for Bosch is the way. It's fully compatible with the newest Bosch motors.

[@xmateinc]

@@SpeedBoxTuning so you're basically admitting to tricking the bosch software, then telling people this won't void the warranty. Very nice.

[@yvesstjean8618]

Very Nice... but will it void my 2 years warrenty on my bran New cube?

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Don't worry. SpeedBox does not void warranty. In case of experiencing warranty, we recommend to uninstall the SpeedBox temporarily.

[@adamf5942]

Yes it WILL void your warranty. I run a bike shop and these render your bike illegal and the manufacturer will not cover you should there be a problem. Your bike can record data that can be addressed under warranty circumstances. This is setting a dangerous precedent Speedbox Tuning.

[@andysmithson7748]

How do I fit this into a haibike atm 5 2021. I have both but can't see to get to the wires in the motor to insert speedbox

[@onetime242]

I have a 2022 ebike with the Bosch smart drive system. And I don’t have a display unit. Can I still use this chip and use my phone as the display with the Bosch flow app?

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Hello, yes you can use SpeedBox 1.0 for Bosch anyways. Flow app and SpeedBox works together.

[@onetime242]

@@SpeedBoxTuning but I also have the Bosch wheel rim/valve stem magnet. So is there an update that works for this?

[@dominikprikryl4307]

Beautiful instructions on how to destroy the motor and battery

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Dobrý den. Instalace tuningu je neinvazivní, pouze se napojí na stávající konektory. Není důvod, aby tuning ničil motor nebo baterii.

[@johnb7422]

How about some tuning instructions for the Bosch Kiox?

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Activation/Deactivation of SpeedBox as well as speed limit settings are same for all the types of Bosch displays.

[@lukescrapwalker]

Hi, I have a 2023 bosh gen4 ebike (Cube) And i got the Speedbox 3.0B This has Rectangular plugs but my bicycle has small round plugs. How do i convert this?

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Hello Emanuel. Looks like you have a Bosch Smart System. Boch calls it 4th generation, in fact it is more like 5th generation. That's why Bosch 3.0 doesn't fit there - it's only up to the 4th generation. Don´t worry, try contacting your dealer for a replacement kit.

[@ptjmwjpag]

Good morning, is it still possible to apply this device to the latest engine versions of the Bosch performance line CX engine?

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Hello. SpeedBox 3.0 is fully compatible with Bosch motors including the latest versions except Smart System. SpeedBox 1.0 or SpeedBox 1.0 B.Tuning (B like Bluetooth) is intended for Smart System.

[@riotgifts5285]

Hello SpeedBox, this looks great and think it will work well with my Trek. Just one thing I didn't quite get. When SpeedBox is deactivated, does the motor revert back to Bosh original settings until activated again on the walk button. ie Can you flick between Bosh and SpeedBox?!

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

When SpeedBox is deactivated, bike acts like there is no SpeedBox installed = default speed limit. You can turn the SpeedBox on/off whenever during the ride.

[@mohsinsheikh1961]

@@SpeedBoxTuning Nice video! I have cube touring hybrid one 500 ebike, since it is a paddle assist and due to my health requirements I would like to add throttle to my cube ebike, please advise / guide on how to go about having throttle control installed in it. Thank you

[@tuftuf7257]

I wonder what this tunning does to your motor in the long run.. Yes, it drains the battery much, much quicker, that's obvious. Can the bosh gen 3 handle that sort of extra 'stress' 'assistance' ?

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

We've been producing SpeedBox products for Bosch motors for seven years now. I mean there is many customers who use our products for seven years. Battery is not being drained so much quicker. Depends on your speed and plenty of other things such as riding mode, terrain, your weight, etc.

[@Mgtowfreedom]

Stealth tuning that can be switched Love 💓 it

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

We appreciate your positive feedback. Thank you.

[@powerbikesbg]

Hi, please advise how to activate - adjust Speed Box 3 with Kiox display! Thank you!

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

The procedure is same on all the displays. Please follow carefully second half of this installation video.

[@powerbikesbg]

@@SpeedBoxTuning Thank you! After the sequence Turbo-MTB-Tour-Eco / Eco - Tour - MTB - Turbo double press Walk!

[@Oskar_CII]

Por favor active subtítulos en español, el vídeo lo entenderán millones de personas más y tendrá más visitas. Gracias! Buen vídeo!

[@jimbojones2457]

Great video! I have a 2015 Haibike Xduro Hardseven with the Bosch Performance Line motor on it. Will this chip work with the older Bosch system? Cheers.

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Hello Jim, yes of course. SpeedBox 2.0 for Bosch is fully compatible with your eBike.

[@tomaszplewinski7690]

Hey, could you tell samething how to avoid locking the bike ? I read about accident, when bike was blocked by software after install this device, and now im a little scary about buying this and putting in my ebike. Thanks

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Hello Tomasz. Thank you for your question. Please check this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZy4iHqArMRoqKs When using SpeedBox 3.0 with Bosch motors of the 4th generation (produced in 2020 or later) it is necessary to leave the bike on after finishing the ride until a value of 0.0 km/h is displayed. During this process the remaining time will be displayed in minutes. Then it is safe to turn off your bike and you can start looking forward to your next trip. Plus: In case of updating the software of your e-bike, uninstall SpeedBox from the e-bike first, update the software and reinstall SpeedBox.

[@chrisroks3701]

Can you do this without the crank puller? My Speedbox 3 just arrived (Amazon) but now I'm seeing the installation video and it uses the puller. Now I'm finding that Speedbox actually sells it on their website but now I would have to wait awhile for it to arrive.

[@bastogne315]

Ive a 2020 Cannondale Lefty with Peeformance Line CX motor. How do i know if its Generation 3 or Generation 4?❤❤

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

It does not matter. It is definitely compatible with SpeedBox 3.0 or SpeedBox 3.0 B.Tuning with Bluetooth ☺

[@bastogne315]

Thanks bro. Ordering today along with crash helmet.​@@SpeedBoxTuning

[@bastogne315]

It arrived today gonna install now.

[@bastogne315]

Installed..omg..you made my year ❤❤❤ Amazing. 40km uphill. I almost pis5ed myself 😂

[@johnconnor3707]

tempted to get one but looks complicated pressing all the buttons for the settings. ive got a 2019 scott sub cross eride 30 do i need a speedbox 2 or 3

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Hello, John. You can have both SpeedBox 2.0 and 3.0. In this case, we recommend the newer 3.0, it has more features. Activation/deactivation is completely simple. You just press the WALK (assist) button. If you don't have a WALK (assist) button, press + - + - or - + - +. That's all :-) With the SpeedBox 3.0 version, you can also set your own speed limit if you want to save battery. As for installation, you can use our picture guide or video guide. If something is unclear, you can contact us at any time via chat speedbox-tuning.com, FB or IG.

[@Hemlck]

The sockets on my Haibike Trekking 3.0 with Bosch performance line CX motor look different - there are two smaller sockets with plugs in and one larger one. Question is which of the smaller sockets does the Speedbox plug in to?

[@earthling2022]

once you checked if it functions @2:50 , do you have to let it turn off ? then you show later that you turn it on again. because mine is showing error and i did not let it turn off..i tried setting it to 28mph limit and it still not working...I am waiting for it to turn off by itself now .. It would help if you explained this in the video - you make it sound so easy but its clearly annoying. i dont know why i bought a speedbox if you dont tell the problems, proper rip off

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Hello. Thank you for your feedback.The most important thing is to choose the right SpeedBox. Version 2.0 is for the 2nd and 3rd generation of Boch motors manufactured up to 2020. Version 3.0 is also for the 4th generation of Bosch motors. Installation is simple: remove the cover, remove original connectors, install SpeedBox in the correct plugs. Do a tuning check. If an error appears, the connectors are probably not connected correctly, or they have not clicked into each other properly. If everything works, the motor can be covered again. You can turn off tuning or not - it does not affect the function. It will probably shut itself off before you can cover the motor. If you do not know how to install, contact us via chat at www.speedbox-tuning.com or on our social networks, please.

[@earthling2022]

@@SpeedBoxTuning Thankyou, I appreciate for your reply. It seems to be the correct one - Speedbox3 for non-smart Gen4 Bosch. I disconnected it and it seems to work as it originally does, so I am happy with that ! I thought I was going to lose precious days of cycling. I will try again next week to reconnect. I will try contacting via email. One thing I have noticed in the comments, is, is that we should let the display system shut down itself, as to let it do what it needs to by itself (also to charge when display system is off). I did not see this in your video and I may have turned it off, for it to trigger some safety feature on the system. I noticed the pins are quite delicate, but the connections seemed to clicked in correctly and are not bent/damaged. I Will try again as soon as possible. Otherwise I may try another 'hack'. Also for UK, and my setup, do we have to set a speed limit ? I believe they should be set to 30mph Thankyou

[@earthling2022]

Just an update. I refitted today. The plastic sheath comes off to show the pins, and one was a little bent. I carefully checked which way the color wires go back on too, you can also see from the plastic insert too (just to make sure). Once all reconnected, and closed the pedal cover (mine I dont have to take the pedal off thank god). I did a manual wheel spin too without pedals, and speedometer was working this time. I noticed a sharp bite when trying to cycle off, so I pressed the turbo mode up and down. Just to say it works now. I have it set to 2.8/28mph from last time was still on the memory (I think that is way more than enough tbh). I thought it would add this comment for the happy ending. Somehow your video also shows the same speed setting I put on, and to leave display on now for Bosch motor systems. not sure if that is coincidence(that I didn't notice before) or updated, anyhow, Cheers and all the best

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

@@earthling2022 Hello. Thank you for the information. We are very happy that everything is working as it should. Of course, if you have any further questions, please contact us at any time. This video was made three years ago. Here we have a new video including a Bluetooth version. It's just a little shorter, the tuning check is only after the engine is covered. Enjoy the spring season and many happy miles 🙂

[@kvmods]

I have a performanceline cx gen 3, and i have a speedbox 3.0 with BT. I have a EMTB but not the EMTB program installed? Normaly the emtb is on e mtb in stead of the SPORT program. when i do the update does the speedbox still work?

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Yes, SpeedBox is fully compatible with this update. Feel free to download it.

[@michaeloleary2259]

just installed seedbox2 nice 👌

[@MrBazsi888]

If I have Shimano Steps E6100 series motor with 36V 250W 50Nm + 36 V Comfort Li-Ion battery 625Wh (17.4Ah) 40-65Nm what will be the highest max speed ? Thanks

[@Edward-nz4ck]

Whoah! You have Good battery i have E6100 its so fun with speedbox but max 50 km/h

[@simplyaasian7176]

Hello my E-bike trek rail 5 does not have the walk function available. If i install the speedbox will i be able to change the speed and will i get the walk function

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Hello, yes, SpeedBox will work with your eBike. You must use alternative activation that can be done by pressing of + - + -.

[@dredlew]

Does this work with bike motor kit that is in the wheel?

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Hi. No, sorry. Only for mid-motors.

[@jmichaelklebbajr5246]

I have a Speedbox 2.0 that I just bought and installed although it is not going as fast as i had hoped from the Videos that i saw. My Bike is a little bit faster (It goes 25mph now and did do 20 to start). I installed my Speedbox 2.0 on my 2019 HaiBike XDuro AllMTN 2.0 with the PW-X Motor. I really need this bike to go faster. Is there any way to make my bike faster with new Speedbox 2.0 (programming or something)? And i thought watched something saying that the different power modes during the pedal assist use were adjustable with the Speedbox 2.0? Like the Torque and regen and so on. Is this true? I want to turn the Torque up to maximum, as well as speed and Regen. Is this possible?

[@rystamropahc4808]

Поставив спід бокс 3 огонь )

[@damichl9684]

Can you show a Bosh Diagnostic Tool Report on the latest Software? I can't believe that there isn't any detection or error code

[@yabonney]

Will this work with the new update just came out recently? And does it effect the EMTB mode that ensures even better control on the trail since the new update?

[@artgreg2296]

+1

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Yes, it is compatible with new update that increases torque. It does not affect any of riding modes. EMTB mode still will be EMTB mode.

[@yabonney]

@@SpeedBoxTuning That's great to know i will be buying. Appreciated

[@artgreg2296]

The user James MacFarlane says it does not work. I wait for his explanation

[@yabonney]

@@artgreg2296 I've just bought mine but not opened the box. However, I've had mixed reviews. Some people say it work's with the latest update I believe that you need to make sure that when updating the latest bosch software that you remove the speedbox and always make sure you let it run-down the clock before switching off and before connecting your charger. It should work that what I've been told. I'll wait for the someone from the speedbox box team to answer us. But checking their the Facebook page they inform us that it works with the current version!

[@jackcarlson7710]

cant you just go into manufacturer setting and change the settings.also does this work on wheel motors or is it just crank motors also did you leave your part hooked up and try to find room inside or do you remove it once you put codes in then put back together and once its done does it effect battery i would imagine it drains battery faster thank you

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Speed can not be unlocked anywhere in the settings. SpeedBox is compatible with mid drives only. Ebike tuning drains battery a bit faster. However, it is just one of many factors that have impact on discharging of the battery.

[@AllanNorstrand]

I just bought your speedBox 3 and installed it on my new 2020 Cube Reaction Hybrid EX that has the new software installed (85 NM vs 75NM) Displ : 4.0.0 DU: 1.1.00 Bat : 1.1.0 and I have received 2 ERROR's on the display in the last week. Why is this happening??? Other than that I love your speedBox 3.

[@artgreg2296]

your comment is interesting because i was planning to buy the same bike and i went to one of my biker dealer he told me he does not make the 85 newton upgrade because it would likely break the unrestriction kit. do you nevertheless manage to ride with it? despite the errors?

[@AllanNorstrand]

@@artgreg2296 So far the bike still works after you shut it off and start it again but it could be the 3rd time is the charm. I will let you all know if and when I get #3 Error. Also I have heard that if you remove the speedbox 3 and ride the bike for 45 minutes or so that it fixes itself or you run the magnet over the sensor many times it will fix it but that was on older bikes. I will update in the future.

[@artgreg2296]

@@AllanNorstrand thanks for the update. Yes please keep us informed because the new cube hybrid reaction 2021 will be 85 newton by default

[@artgreg2296]

@@AllanNorstrand any updates?

[@AllanNorstrand]

@@artgreg2296 I got a 3rd error not much later than my last response. After that I pulled the SpeedBox3 and battery then road it for some hours then reinstalled it and now it seems to work somewhat being that I don't get Errors any more but it sometimes cuts out for a few second when i am over 25k then I just push the walk bottom and it takes off again. Another thing I have noticed is the display ( computer) will not shut off after 10 minutes automatically when the SpeedBox3 is installed it counts 1K ever 10 minutes even when the bike is standing still.

[@artgreg2296]

I think I have a question that could help all people having performance cx 2020. Will the 2021 85 newton update will be compatible with the speedbox 3? Or will there be a mandatory update on the speedbox 3?

[@Raceeverything]

2nd this .. hope it still works with the update ?

[@artgreg2296]

I went to one of my bike dealer he told me he does not make the 85newton upgrade because that would break the unrestriction kit... but did not know kit of which brand

[@nelsonbermudez593]

Does the speedbox works with the kiox controller? If yes, can you share instructions?

[@rayl2354]

Did you get a response I would like to know the same thing as I have a kiox

[@robertomariscal]

same here need to know

[@vidman999]

will this work in a Canadian purchased 2022 Scott Strike BOSCH Performance CX ?

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Hello. SpeedBox 1.0 works only for Smart System. SpeedBox 3.0 (B.Tuning) should work with your e-bike.

[@vidman999]

@@SpeedBoxTuning Thanks..👍🏻

[@vidman999]

finally got around to having a look inside mine, it actually has five plugs all with wires going into them. can you elaborate on what I need to do or purchase?

[@jurajkalas6854]

and when I want to remove the speedbox? I will connect the connectors as they should be. I don't have to set anything?

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Hello Juraj. No, you do not have set anything. Just connect the original connectors and that´s all :)

[@jurajkalas6854]

@@SpeedBoxTuning thanks 😉

[@andrew236andrew6]

I have a trek powerfly lt 9 2018 can't find a crank puller any ideas plz

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Hello Andrew, it's being sold on our website speedbox-tuning.com in the Bosch category.

[@charithaellapola2285]

I've got a COBI smartphone adapter (came with the Bike). Will it work with the smartphone display? If I get the installation wrong is there some sort of assistance from Speed box? I take it more control via the SpeedBox App

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Yes, SpeedBox is fully compatible with COBI. You can reach us on many phone numbers that are situated on our website. You can reach us on Facebook, Instagram, email, etc.

[@aberdeendeltaforce]

How do you program it without a display? My bike is a 2023 with a Bosch led unit no display

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Hello, David. Is your e-bike a Smart System? In this case, it could help to install an external controller that has + - buttons or to order the B.Tuning version, where you can activate the tuning directly in the SpeedBox App. However, for the Bosch 2023 e-bikes, we are still in the process of verifying that our SpeedBox is 100% compatible. We recommend following our social networks (FB, IG). Thanks 🙂

[@aberdeendeltaforce]

@@SpeedBoxTuning yes it’s the smart system with a Bosch Bluetooth led unit, the unit has loads of buttons on it and you connect via the flow app. It’s a Whyte e160 so pretty heavy and when the motor cuts out it’s like I’ve dropped an anchor. Not happy at all with the 15.5 MPH limiter so hopefully you guys have something reliable 👍

[@xmateinc]

@@aberdeendeltaforce thats you're countries laws not bosch's fault. Mine does 28mph with 85nm torque, in the USA of course.

[@chefmatus6710]

It says that you shouldn’t turn off display before 0kmh or 0Mph with speedbox. What happens if you accidentally do so or if you run out of battery and it shots down? Thank you

[@jonathanbrechbuehl3270]

This is a good question!

[@ediflyer]

I've read someone on a forum say that if you power down, when you power up again the countdown resumes. Seems to be doing something to fool the stats in the motor. Like sending a signal that the wheel is still turning so the power used was correct etc.

[@kvmods]

The pedal RPM setting in the app, what is that for? its now set on 60 and deactivated. but what does it do when i activate it and put the rpm higher?

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

You can use this function just for exerciseing or gentle discharging of your battery. I mean sticking to certain RPM treats your battery better.

[@arcaneentity8458]

Does this work with 2022 Bosch Performance CX (Gen 4) motors (smart system) or do you need the B-tuning?

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Hello. No, for your Smart System you need SpeedBox 1.0 for Bosch or SpeedBox 1.0 B.Tuning for Bosch. B.Tuning means Bluetooth, so you can pair you e-bike with SpeedBox App. www.speedbox-tuning.com/p/speedbox-1-0-for-bosch#413 or www.speedbox-tuning.com/p/speedbox-1-0-b-tuning-for-bosch#421

[@santeri6245]

Why Speedbox 3.0 for bosch is nor working in my Trek Powerfly 5? Help me please

[@royhoek1590]

Santeri do you have a fourth gen moter ?

[@TheCallOfDutyFreak]

@@royhoek1590 works with 4th gen right?

[@TheCallOfDutyFreak]

@Federico P. i know

[@piotrka2842]

does it mean that i DONT have walk function after i install speed box? also no issues with KIOX? i see only Purion in your vids

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Hello. The Walk function also works with SpeedBox installed. The button for the Walk function must be held. You can check product compatibility here: www.speedbox-tuning.com/p/speedbox-3-0-for-bosch#237

[@dAda313]

Do you have bike models where a tuning device doesn't fit inside? I have a Carver Strict E.410 bike and the place inside that powerunit is razor thin! I don't see a device fitting there inside at all.

[@nunchakukarma]

Boa noite, excelente vídeo,

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Olá, obrigado 🙂

[@Unitedflyier]

Are there bike shops that can instal this for you, as I don't have the tools to do it? I have a gen4 15.5mph, but I will be moving to USA later this year where 20mph is the limit.

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

There is many of them. Depends, where are you from. Only special tool is crank puller though.

[@MMartyMM7]

Does the App give you more precise Option to set the max. speed ? Without App the steps are 5kmh, is the step with the app 1kmh ?

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Hello. The answer is not entirely clear. Very simply put: the speed and distance read using the GPS signal is more accurate in the long run, for example if you want to know the exact distance and average speed on the way from home to work. Our App obtains the speed by calibrating data from the speed sensor after each turn of the wheel, so that the instantaneous speed is more accurate at the given moment and on shorter distance.

[@RunnerTrans]

What can I do if I updated the software with the chip on the bike? Now it doesn't work anymore

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Hello. For these reasons, we recommend not updating the firmware. If your SpeedBox is purchased before May 2025, it will not work after the latest update 🙄 We recommend contacting your dealer or our support at speedbox-tuning.com Thanks for your understanding.

[@ivanvp87]

Hello, I have a cube reaction pro 2020 bike with performance line cx motor and it has the unit software 1.0.2.0, is it compatible with this version? Has anyone had problems with this software? Thank you.

[@stevepots]

@SpeedBox Tuning can you reply to this message as very interested in getting one of your chips

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

We confirm compatibility with this software version. Feel free to download it.

[@kw971]

@@SpeedBoxTuning how can I check my unit software version please?

[@stevedavies2955]

Do you have to activate the walk button and make sure 6.1 or whatever speed you've set each time you ride?

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Hi. Yes, you have. It is also a bit of prevention against tuning detection.

[@carlocrighton]

I have been using the Speedbox 3.0 for Bosch for 6 months now. But must say I am confused and disappointed. Despite setting speed to 9,9 (or 99kph) I am only achieving an extra 5kph on average (and with wind behind me up to 10kph). Any help, advice or comments would be welcome from other SpeedBox users. BACKGROUND: My bike is a Canyon GrailON (build 2021) with manual gear shifting. I have followed instructions carefully, reset & repeated them more than once - and talked to SpeedBox Support people a couple of times but no joy. Note that I am a regular sports cyclist, +100km per week, at speeds of 50kph on non-e racing bikes so the pedalling of the rider is not the issue.

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Hello. What is the speed limit of your e-bike? 25 km/h? Can you take a test please? Set the Turbo mode and then briefly press "EMTB - Tour - Eco - Tour - EMTB - Turbo" and set the maximum speed to 15 kmh. Then check if the motor stops helping at that speed. Then set a higher maximum speed, for example 45 km/h, and repeat the test. If even this does not help to increase the speed, contact your seller and ask for a replacement. Thanks.

[@owpidcock]

Will this work with my Hitachi massager?

[@francisiceberg907]

Only the children's model.

[@MrSteveykk]

Took the bike to get it serviced. It came back and now speedbox has made it have 503 errors. Is this the latest firmware change?

[@devinm.6149]

Can someone tell me how to activate it on the Bosch Nyon display system? I think I may be doing something wrong, preferably in video form but I'll take what I can get for now. My bike does not have emtb mode if that makes a difference

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

Hello. Activation/deactivation is via the WALK assistant. Or you can activate/deactivate it by changing the assistance mode twice - for example, go to Tour mode and switch Turbo - Tour - Turbo - Tour. Or downwards to Eco - Tour - Eco - Tour. If you don't know what to do, contact us via chat speedbox-tuning.com or via FB, IG.

[@devinm.6149]

@@SpeedBoxTuning thank you, I have managed to get it working.

[@SpeedBoxTuning]

@@devinm.6149 Great, thank you for information. We are happy you have managed it 🙂

[@kobow69]

And what speed box for Bosch CX 4 Gen 85nm. ?