Speedgoat 5 After 100 Miles

[@MonteComeau]

The SG5 has become my favourite trail shoe. Great grip and super cushy. Now that it is winter I have put some 1/4" hex head sheet metal screws in the forefoot of the outsole and makes it super stable on the iciest roads. Good review. 🇨🇦

[@xailur]

Hi, my dad watches you everyday since hes a runner and keep up with the goodwork!

[@kofuzi]

Thanks for watching!

[@smirnowski]

Agree with your classification of this shoe. I am using it for runnable trails and road to trail runs. The outsole is no match for Spain's aggressively technical trails in terms of grip and durability. Lugs in the forefoot are almost completely gone after 400km. Still a great shoe, I'm on my second pair.

[@GuitaristDanH]

Love my Speed Goat 5s. Great out-of-the-box comfort, competitive race performance, and solid durability for a fair price.

[@alansmith5704]

I'm only one year into running and my trail shoe has been Hoka Stinson atr6 because of the comfort and stability. I just got the SG5 as I feel I'm ready to push on a bit but still retain some comfort. Thanks for your reviews, always great insight.

[@amandadossett5088]

Your assessment of the SG5 is completely spot on. In my mind the SG5 is essentially an ultra-oriented Zinal. I think folks that liked the SG3 and SG4, but are disliking the SG5, would probably feel more at home in the Mafate Speed 4. Bummer that the Mafate 4 is $185 though, but I guess that's what a nicer upper and a Lite Base out sole will cost you. SG5 for more runable stuff and the Mafate Speed 4 for the grinding terrain!

[@JavierISampedroTNF]

I just bought a pair and looking forward to start using them (waiting for delivery). I had SG3 (put almost 1200km in them) and really enjoyed, after all I read from people using the 4s that were not so happy with some changes but seems this latest iteration hits the spot. I will be combining them with my Ultra Glide, Sense Ride 4 and Torrent 2.

[@grantwallace1882]

I agree about the 'road to trail'ness of this shoe.

[@JeremyGiese]

Loved my SG 4 GTX, almost have 100miles and lugs still holding great. I have used them on some trails but tons of road with snow/ice/slush and just heavier rains/wet conditions, they have been fantastic! Just a tighter toe box so I can see it annoying anyone above the normal width foot shape

[@colinstewart1432]

I had the 4s. Then got the 5s. The 5 isn't as good. Rides not as plush. Almost feels like a budget version

[@andrewjknoxuk]

Bang on with the road to trail comment - I've been looking for that kind of shoe before realising I already have it in the SG4! And cushions my feet on rocks. Incredible shoe.

[@kofuzi]

glad to hear it's working for you!

[@gokiwi2642]

Good review of the speed goat 5 I’ve done about the same milage in my speed goat 5 I bought a second pair of New Balance fresh foam more trail for the long trail runs & the speed goat 5 for tempo runs on the trails around 15k but i,m using the speed goat 5 for long runs & tempo runs, I like the speed goat 5 shoes, right from your first run they feel good, the New Balance fresh foam more trail, are excellent for both long trail runs plus some bit faster stuff, but the New Balance took me a few weeks getting use to them, once ya get use to them they are pretty awesome, for long not to technical trails 👍🏼🥳🏃🏽‍♂️🙏🌲✅😀

[@Oleg_Kol]

I don’t have a good point of reference since SG5 is my first trail running shoe. However, I like the overall fit of the show and how it feels under the foot. I mostly use it for runs on access roads/technical trails, and it is great for segments when you want to go faster or have to dance around roots. I agree that lugs in the forefoot area tend to wear out. I have about 200 miles on mine. Will buy another pair when this one is done. Thanks for your work!!!

[@zaf2643]

Hoka speedgoat 5 is one of my favourite trail shoes because it does offer some element of comfort .I have 2 pairs . Personally the outsole grip of this shoe is acceptable in wet or muddy condition although Salomon speedcross 5 does that much better. The trail running shoes with the worst grip that i ever wore was probably Altra lone peak 3.5 The foam can easily get abrasive which can make it less durable .

[@cb4atl]

It’s a solid commuter shoe…which is wildly different from how I used to use it. Was pretty disappointed in these. Mafate Speed 4 is a much better, more premium option for technical ultras and training for them.

[@paddywiggle]

To me the mafate feels too soft, major ankle twister

[@venuvegesana6183]

I am loving my Speed Goat 5.

[@kofuzi]

Such a good shoe

[@karatechop]

Nice review! I've always been a Salomon kinda guy, but have been thinking about trying a Hoka. I think after watching this (and your Zinal review), I may go with the Zinal since I like my trail shoes light and nimble.

[@kofuzi]

I think the SG5 is going to be a pretty big departure from what Salomon has. Although, after seeing at TRE what Salomon is bringing for 2023, this might be the year I revisit Salomon trail shoes

[@tomtigermc]

Thanks for the honest review on the Hoka Speeg Goat 5 Ko! I may be leaning toward the Mafate next if a GTX version comes out as I have more technical trails I'll be tackling in 2023.

[@ifonly4486]

Not a fan of the Mufate. I much prefer the Mafate....

[@miguelsoto7246]

Mafate is dope!

[@kofuzi]

I just received confirmation that there will not be a Mafate gtx this winter

[@tomtigermc]

Thanks for the intel Cousin Ko!

[@jackash1975]

Incredible feeling shoe out of the box. Love the upper. Sadly, I only managed to squeeze 200 mi out of my first pair. Second pair were nearly flattened after 150 miles. The decoupled groove near the heel no longer exists causing the platform to get even wider. Wish the midsole was more durable as the rest of the shoe remains functional.😢

[@miguelsoto7246]

The rubber on the SG5 seems softer and wears quicker than the SG 4 I have noticed, the upper is def an improvement for me.

[@MountainView21]

Initially I read "after 1000 miles" and thought wow what dedication 😂

[@kofuzi]

I don’t think I’ve ever taken a shoe that far

[@bybikeboston1334]

Nice review Kofuzi! A lot of our races here in New England start on a road, will veer onto a trail for a few miles, and finish on the road - so recently my "trail races" have been 1/2 trail, 1/2 road. Perhaps this sort of shoe would be nice for these races. I've just been using my Saucony Axons because they're fairly grippy but still road oriented.

[@kalvin.]

Sounds like a Puma shoe might be good for you. The new Deviate Nitro 2’s have great grip for a road shoe and have a more premium foam and plate combo. Hard to find in person though

[@bybikeboston1334]

@@kalvin. I’ve been eyeing those too! From what I’ve seen every shoe-tuber loves them. I’ll need to wear out a pair of shoes to fit another in my line-up though!

[@ksteege]

Always great reviews Mike, Maybe its time to try this out again - I think the stretchy vamp thing may help - I had an older version that split on the lateral sides around that 100 mile point and since have been running mostly in Altras - sometimes they can get a bit sloppy. My current fave trail shoe is the new Timps - love them but always like to try different ones out. Curious how thesee would compare to them and also I don't remember did you ever try the Tecton X?

[@kofuzi]

I tried the tecton x and recently ran in them again. A lot of people rave about them, but I am a bit underwhelmed. They’re good, but given whatever else is in the hoka lineup, I’m not sure where I can fit the tecton x

[@damianor6886]

Mafate Speed 4 are twice as good. I’ve run 700km in speedgoat 5 and loved them. They aren’t in the same league as Mafate. If you want the speedgoat, stop, buy the Mafate and you won’t regret it

[@ianfraser747]

Hi, I loved the SG5`s which was the first version of the shoe I had tried. Midsole lasted great, lugs wore down a bit but, the main problem was the upper for me. The upper pulled away from the midsole after just 250 miles, same happened on the replacement pair I was sent. I don`t have wide feet, I actually found the volume to excessive to the point where I had almost pulled the lace holes to the point of touching. That said, great shoe, fit needs to be improved as does the durability.

[@DoNotLetThemStealYourJoy]

I love my SG5 and bought a pair for my teenager as well. But I dont love it as much as the Asics Fuji Lite 2. The Fuji has the same cushy feel but has exceptional flexibility and grip in muddy rocky terrain - I'm quite a klutz sometimes and no other shoe has given me total confidence on such terrain on slopes ever. Not the SG5, I've slipped before especially on soggy muddy floors with leaf debris. Not in the Fuji Lite. Fuji Lite has Asicsgrip which is stickier and more flexible than Vibram that's why there's no need for foam in between the lugs.

[@kofuzi]

I had a chance to run some trails in the Fuji Lite 2 when I visited Colorado this past summer. It was pleasant surprise

[@ozenfant_ozn]

great review Mike!

[@kofuzi]

Thanks for watching!

[@rschreck876]

I got 400 miles out of mine until the midsole, especially in the forefoot, felt dead. You can actually see how that area kind of spread out after 400 miles.

[@kofuzi]

you say 400 miles like it is an unsatisfactory number

[@ralphdelposo9688]

Hi. Love your review. Very precise on what's the good and bad aspects of it. Just a question, would you recommend this one as a hiking shoe? Was it comfortable just walking?

[@kofuzi]

Really comfortable for walking. Hoka does also have a hiking line of shoes.

[@khanom27]

Great review. I am in the market for a new pair of trail shoes. I’ve been debating between the altras lone peak 6, or the speedgoat base on all the talks about it. Seems that the altras might suit me better.

[@matthiassventoest6800]

great review.., but uh.., I went with the nb fresh foam more trail v2. I found them for $101.., I couldn’t pass it up.

[@kofuzi]

I ran in v1 last winter. That was a lot of fun

[@khanom27]

Same here. Got a pair for $90. The stack is a bit high for my liking, but quite fun, and very roomy for my wide feet. Nothing but love for it.

[@leocriscuola]

The SPG 5 died quick on me as well. Lugs wore fast, foam flattened fast as well. Not great on east coast technical trails.

[@ggnotgd]

Hi. May I know, does speedgoat 5 works for road running? Or challenger 7 performs better? In terms of the outsole, etc. Does the vibram sole on sg 5 wear off quickly when being used for road running? Since the price difference is not too huge, I want to choose the shoe that is more worthy and versatile (I want to wear it more likely for daily/road use, but will use it for casual trail running & hiking too).

[@kofuzi]

A1. Yes, but I wouldn’t use it for a run that was all roads. A2. No A3. Yes. See A1. To address your final concern, I would recommend getting a separate road shoe and trail shoe. You will be happier and it will be cheaper in the long run. But if you can only get one shoe and that shoe has to be a trail shoe (rather than using a road shoe on trails), and if you’re looking to save a bit of money, and if it has to be a Hoka, consider the Torrent

[@nalgo]

The mafate 4 is so comfortable in the shop, but I burned through the profly midsole in the tecton's so quickly that I can't justify the per mile cost of the mafate. Especially since they wouldn't even be race miles.

[@kofuzi]

This is the speedgoat. Different shoe different foam. This may be what you’re looking for

[@richardrankin7488]

Speedgoat 5 GTX yes!

[@kofuzi]

It’s coming

[@DiggerPrints0814]

I would not recommend these for road use, I've only put 72 kilometres on mine (Strava Tracked) the first 20ks were all road use until I noticed the lugs already wearing. They are now solely for the trail. I feel I will be lucky to get 250ks out of mine before the lugs are completely gone...

[@jsksia2902]

Greatest trail allarounder softness/energy return/ durability/ weight / price / easy to find at local store ….

[@davidzlotnick1899]

Hi Thanks for the video Have you tried the endorphin edge ? How would you compare them ? Thanks

[@crosssail]

Just curious though, what is your yellow finger ring?

[@m-dubz6538]

Greetings from London, England. Without doing very much research at all I ended up buying a pair of the EVO Speedgoat last year and they’ve been great. But where do they sit in the Speedgoat lineup? When I eventually replace them do I just go for the 5? Any thoughts? Many thanks!

[@vinkic]

SG5 midsole feels like the EVOs, but the upper of SG5 is more a road shoe upper (e.g. Clifton). Having run in SG4, EVOs and SG5 I have to say that SG4 and EVOs are more stable on trail because of the upper. EVOs are my all time favorite and I'm slightly disappointed with the SG5 although they are very comfy and fun to run on less technical terrains as @kofuzi said.

[@m-dubz6538]

@@vinkic Right, got it, many thanks Adam.

[@kofuzi]

Hoka merged the speedgoat and Evo speedgoat lines this year. The update would be the 5.

[@m-dubz6538]

@@kofuzi brilliant, thanks, now looking for deals on the 5. By the way I came to your channel via Ben Parkes, really enjoy your content and appreciate what you do. Keep up the good work!

[@hhh2047]

I just bought Hoka Challenger ATR 6, they seem kinda hard and tough for Hokas. Do you think they will get softer after couple of miles or did I buy fake ones?

[@GuitaristDanH]

My Challengers took some time to break in. They're still not soft like the SG5s but they don't feel as harsh as they were brand new. Wear them around for a few days and break them in with a few shorter runs and they should soften up a bit.

[@hhh2047]

@@GuitaristDanH I expected them to be like Cliftons for the trails. Guess I got my expectations bit high

[@kofuzi]

Where did you buy the shoes where you are concerned that you got a fake?

[@hhh2047]

@@kofuzi I bought them online from store called SportVision. I'm not sure if the store is worldwide and if you heard of it, I'm from Croatia. The price was legit and store is legit. But still it seems kinda odd

[@fynthemtns]

Those solid lugs of the Salomons do not grip as well on wet and technical terrain as Megagrip. You need to have some tackiness and flex. I would disagree, I think Megagrip is the best, most confident trail traction for rocky, techy stuff. I haven't gotten on the trail in the SG5 yet but the huge departure from the SG4 is frustrating. It went from a relatively accommodating toebox with great overlay protection and lockdown, to a slimmer cushion and stretchy road-shoe like upper, which does not seem to be as stable on rough terrain. I'm curious to try these in wide because just walking around in the regular width is uncomfortable - the way they narrowed from the SG4 is crazy. My foot isn't even that wide (can wear Saucony's comfortably). Probably going to try the Topo Mtn Racer once my numerous SG4s wear out. Not a fan of these narrow road shoes for the trail. And that's definitely premature outsole wear due to your use on roads lol

[@kofuzi]

I think we’re actually in agreement on where megagrip is good. I apologize for not communicating better. Where’d I want a Salomon is when it’s just plain muddy or otherwise sloppy trail conditions

[@Jouk_Runs]

Hi, cool vid! Easy trail shoe. You can always resole with more agressive lugs whem they wear out. My evospeedgoat already have 1700km(resoled at 1100km) By the way, what length of selfie stick were you using in the insta360 shots?

[@vinkic]

resole?

[@Jouk_Runs]

@@vinkic yes

[@tonykeman]

Hello Kofuzi. Speedgoat 5 or Nike Pegasus trail 4?!

[@kofuzi]

Depends on the terrain and the distance

[@tonykeman]

@@kofuzi I m mostly gonna use them on mountains .rocks grass and Mudd. Distance about 20km

[@kofuzi]

probably go with the sg5 if it's going to be messy

[@RareAirTwo4]

Are these good for aggressively steep mountain trail hiking/running?

[@leocriscuola]

No

[@RareAirTwo4]

@@leocriscuola are you serious?

[@leocriscuola]

Nothing about that shoe is made for aggressive. Dead serious. Maybe hiking but the traction is not great, lugs are small and it’s just kinda sloppy overall with lockdown. I wanted to like them.

[@RareAirTwo4]

@@leocriscuola would you suggest another shoe for trail running and hiking? I sure have noticed that Hokas are comfortable and good for a couple of months, but then wear down fairly quick.

[@leocriscuola]

@@RareAirTwo4 yeah, the trade off for comfort vs technical/aggressive seems to be the biggest challenge for trail shoes. I have not tried the Maffate yet and hope that can bridge the gap a bit. A tried and true shoe for lock down and grip has always been the VJ brand for me. They have a Ultra that is the most comfortable and widest toe box. The first version was good, and people love the second version more. When I transitioned from shorter trail to longer trail I went down the Hoka rabbit hole and now I am back to Vj's.

[@michelleharnett1351]

Interesting - I've been using mine a lot on road/trail combos due to the cushioning being kind to a foot injury. However, the lugs are wearing fast.

[@bayunishantiko9861]

Did you experience slippery when stepping in wet pave (with moss)? I mixed it both road and trail and experience such slippery

[@LuisBecerra79]

Yo, what’s going on!!!!

[@kofuzi]

Yo!

[@clarklight2918]

After only 300miles the lugs are all gone 😂😂😂 the Tecton X is better with the litebase megagrip I put 600miles on that, still strong.

[@kofuzi]

thanks for the feedback!

[@amandadossett5088]

Your assessment of the SG5 is completely spot on. In my mind the SG5 is essentially an ultra-oriented Zinal. I think folks that liked the SG3 and SG4, but are disliking the SG5, would probably feel more at home in the Mafate Speed 4. Bummer that the Mafate 4 is $185 though, but I guess that's what a nicer upper and a Lite Base out sole will cost you. SG5 for more runable stuff and the Mafate Speed 4 for the grinding terrain!